Exploring Ozone Therapy: Health Benefits & Healing Potential

Malati - Thank you so much - I have found an ozone therapist about an hour away from my house and I am waiting for them to call back so that I can schedule a consultation. Hopefully I can afford it since they do not take insurance. I wish I could do my own ozone therapy at home!

T1D, ORH here and glad you learned of ozone and such. I have the same ozone generator system that are in most hospitals that the states will allow. My Tenn doctor cannot do ozone, but he can do hydrogen peroxide IV's and that will prevent foot amputations due to diabetes. The cost will be about $300. They wanted $45,000 for my new knee 10 years ago, but ozone shut that program down. Medical folks lie because ozone will regenerate your cartilage. The most sickening story is how ozone can cure an infected tooth instead of doing a root canal. Almost all end up with cancer in some part of your body. Lots of wimmins breast cancer is due to their infected teeth. Pull a tooth before you get a root canal. Our dentist is one of the best and his wife would not listen to him and got a root canal and died of breast cancer. He cries when he tells the story. He is not an iron ass like me. There was one woman dentist that used ozone in Tenn a few years ago. She is now gone. Tenn is a medical state that is corrupt due to $. My electrical cardiologist wants my natural doctor's records of 14 years. I just ignore them. This slick dude just wants to cause my natural doctor grief that I will not allow. My doctors tip toe around me as I usually know more than they about my problem. They don't like informed questions.

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Zega, can you support your claims of harmlessly inhaling ozone with any evidence besides your own experience? I'm not asking to prove you wrong or to he spiteful, but asking for my own knowledge. I just got an ozone generator and I'm trying not to inhale any pure O3 based on the claims of most sources saying it's harmful for our lungs. I did accidentally inhale a huge whiff of it today while drinking ozonated water and it was extremely harsh. Hopefully you can provide some studies, anecdotal evidence or links. Thank you

Dear ORH,

If possible...when you do the ozone, and the nose hose, will you please send in pictures and info? This sounds very interesting.

Always wishing you the best!

HI U CARLY, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , yes, I am excited to find a new protocol to address my problems. Don't put too much faith in me as I am a monkey see, monkey do, kind of guy.

If you have interest in this subject then I recommend that you study and not rely on an old codger like me.

I will pass on what I learn from breathing ozone.

Thank you for your interest. ==ORH=====

Hello Robert Henry,

I then called the Ozone equipment manufacture and ordered a nose hose for my ozone system. I now have a way to safely get ozone into my lungs via this system which bubbles ozone through olive oil. Ozone then goes into your blood stream and all over your body.

Can you tell me more about this how it exactly works and if possible show me some pictures?

HI U JOHN,,,,,,,,,, went to Amsterdam in the 70's. Great country and great people. Got sent to school on sex toys in the shop windows. The one that really stuck in my mind was called a sailor's friend. So far as an ole codger, I have not gotten that hard up for sex. It gets stronger with age and a little dab will do you. ( WILD ROOT CREAM OIL COMMERCIAL)

If you think I'm an expert in ozone then you got the right string baby, but the wrong yoyo. I just reads a lot.

What I will tell you is that there are two ozone doctors that I follow and base most of the things I do to try to stay healthy. They are Dr's Frank Shallenberger and Robert Rowen. Both can be followed on the internet. How 'bout the terrible Ebola problem that was going to consume the world. Yep, it was Dr Rowan that solved that problem, but got no credit because he used Ozone. They don't want to talk about it because there is no money to be made.

John, I use lots of things via my lungs to get into my blood stream without going through my digestive tract. The three biggies are H202, Ozone and Glutathione. I have had ozone introduced into my blood, but stopped when I learned that anal insulfalation is almost as good and can be done by you at home and cost you almost nothing.

I will caution you change the olive oil out on a scheduled basis. Straight ozone can cause your lungs grief as you already know.

Boy, you are on the right trail. Follow me for entertainment, but follow the two doctors I mentioned to get the straight skinny.

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HI U GOOD FOLKS DOIN,,,,,,, I always have a saga going on and that is because I got lots of pokers in the fire. I have a high dollar Ozone system that is normally used by professionals. We all know oxygen will deteriorated most anything. Well, ozone is 10 times worse.

The tubing on my system is breaking with a touch. It all has to be replaced. Thus, I called the company and they will sell me the tubing and I redo the entire system myself. I bought a standard system and they put these together every day of the year. So why can't they just send me these parts that they already do each day instead of me re-inventing the wheel.

They have dealt with me before and guess figured it was best to do what I say for a change. This is going to happen to every buyer they have and it is a market that happens every 5 years, so why fight it? These are Canadians and they have zero appreciation of down home Southern Redneck humor. Be damned if I would want to live that way. Make life fun. They are going to give me a quote and I figure they will win and I will redo my ozone tubing by my lonesome. Stuff happens.

Dry this week and rain next so we will plow our garden Sat. Dang sure don't want to plow a garden wet, least the clods stay clods for a year.

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Your post comes as I have been contemplating more what to do with oral health lately.

One big problem with me and likely a small problem for most folks is acidosis. I go to extreme measures to keep alkalized because if I don't succeed, I take on radiation, particularly if I eat any dairy (which I rarely do or only small amounts). I know when I have failed in alkalizing as I get the bone infection raging again.

Anyway, in relation to teeth/gums/jawbones, It is also very important to swish multiminerals (I use bulk Leonardite major & trace minerals) as oral or even transdermal mineral supplementation is limited in efficacy in mineralizing the teeth.

To keep infection at bay I swish Colloidal Silver once daily. Have been thinking on a mouthful of water and inserting the ozone tube in there for bubbling and hoping on getting the O3 even further than the mouth and into the bloodstream. Will watch your posted link/video for more in this. Thanks a bunch from your buddy from Kentuck.

HI U BIRDS DOIN, , , , , , , , , , , , most folks are aware that the latest rage is using ozone to kill the bacteria in your gums and drilling prior to fillings. We even have a few dentists that are doing this in Tenn. and their license has not been revoked. Amazin. It is reported that by using ozone you can even avoid a root canal that will haunt you forever. It definitely will kill gingivitis for certain. I got a feeling that if you do this you will never need a dentist again. Would that be good or what?

As all know I's SJS and have just learned that an ozonated oil is now being marketed to use in oil pulling. Are you kidding me. I just happen to have a Ozone Generator and bubble the ozone through olive oil and breath it. Now I can use this used olive oil to clean up my trashy mouth. This way, I won't have to pick up road side cans to pay for a dentist visit.

Would like to respond to my girl friend detractor but won't, 'cause EC is PC, and I'd be on the outside lookin in.

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HI ORH,

I am interested in making ozonated oil. I am confused with the range and price of ozone generators online. What type of ozone generator would you recommend for a beginner? Thanks in advance, appreciate your input as always.

HI U TINA, , , , , , , , , I bought an expensive medical generator about 4 years ago where I can have control of the many things I do. If you just want ozonated oil, then I suggest you buy the oil.

I don't know about the small units that make ozone from air instead of medical oxygen.

Would be interested how the ozone oil pulling works out for you.

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Hi ORH, thanks for the suggestion. I have ordered ozonated olive oil from Amazon. Will post after using it for a month.

Where did you buy your medical grade ozonator from? My DR prescribed a unit from longevity in Canada and its $2500usd shipped. That's a ton of money for something we have not tried.

HI U BUMKIN, , , , , , , , , , , , , if you just want to do Ozonated water then buy a cheap air device.

Yep, when you buy from Longevity, then you get the best, but it is expensive. Their units use medical oxygen. Your decision.

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Hi Robert Henry,

I'm on the hunt for a generator for insulfalation for my dog with IBS so I'm reading all the posts and your recent one on ozonated oil for oil pulling makes me wonder how the olive oil might do to combat skin problems such as allergies and mange in dogs. I sometimes put regular olive oil or hemp oil on my dog Bailey. I read recently that some of the higher end groomers use tiny bubbles through a certain type of ozone generator on their skin while bathing and it clears up after 1 or 2 applications. I haven't found one near me yet that does it so I'm trying to find an all inclusive machine but not quite as expensive as yours.

I purchased a ozone generator for water off amazon for under $70. It is good air cleaning and ionizing water to drink, or clean veggies or your tooth brush, etc... May use in a netti pot for sinus infection. Just a small unit that plugs in and is ready.

HI U JOBIT,,,,,,,,, u did good, and it will work for the things you mentioned. Just don't push the envelope because the resulting product contains what is in the environment. It is not a medical oxygen product.

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HI U LUKE, , , , , , , , , , , , , , good to hear that the word about ozone is getting out. For things like teeth, gums and root infections, then you need a professional. I also have to used them for my knee and back injections. Ozone will regenerate joint cartilage so you don't need your knee or hip replaced. I know that personally.

I have a Longivity Medical Ozone Generator that I do Ozonated water, Ear Insufflations, Anal Insufflations, and Transdermally using an Ozone Suit in a FIR Sauna, bagging, cupping and breathing via a virgin olive oil bubbler. Ozone is a miraculous compound.

You are lucky you live in a state that allows the use of Ozone. It is too cheap and too effective for the medical establishment in most states.

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Hi Llluke,

How is your tooth since the ozone shots? We're you able to save it? I have a similar situation. I hope you are still around and will be able to reply

Thanks

Cindy - if you don't mind, what makes and models of ozone generators do you recommend? Where did you get yours from?

Hi Old R.H.

FYI Kentucky has the highest amount of fluoride in it's water of all the states...Maybe the cause of some of your health issues.

Timh, I just got in from Atlanta after getting my third Ozone shot for my back. I am almost pain free and still have two more shots scheduled. What is so sad is this is about $700 out of my pocket because Ozone is not covered by Medicare or my health insurance. I go to a spine specialist in a few weeks and that is covered. I just want him to analyze my problem, but no surgery. I do not have to pay for his service. If I had let this spine doctor operate, with the cost in the hundred of thousands, then they would pay for that also.

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I have been looking for a certified Dr. here in Atlanta, GA that knows Ozone. Can you assist me?

HI U SCOTT, , , , , , , , , haven't you asked this before?

I use Progressive Medical Center in Dunwoody. The two doctors I would recommend are Dr Matalone, DO, or Dr Siciliano, MD.

Dr Matalone is a charter member of Dr Shallenbergers first class taught the use of Ozone. Dr Siciliano also attended his workshop, but is the new boy on the block. His advantage is that he was a chiropractor prior to getting his MD, thus is more knowledgeable about joints, etc. Dr Matalone as been around the watermelon and probably understands the body better.

Thus, it depends what your problem is. Ozone from them avoided my knee replacement. But as I recently learned Ozone can only do so much. It can't move your spine off your sciatic nerve. It took 5 ozone shots and another MRI to convince me. The T 12 vertebrae crushed in 2/14 finally collapsed about 6 months ago. Now I am back to my spine doctor and PT. He tells me that at 79 I will have to do PT for the rest of my life.

Since I's a story teller, let me spin another yarn. I just got in from having my Dermatologist remove a cancer on my forehead the size of a large grape. I made money because now I don't have to spend 10 grand for a face lift. The cut he made was not the Grand Cannon, but close. The nurse had to have help pulling my facial skin together to sew it. I now look like Tom Cruise.

I explained to the doctor that I had read that folks that have Leukemia will get lots of skin cancers. He said that is the gospel. I have been treating mine alone for about 5 years. Guess I need to purchase more Curaderm for the skin problems.

Told all the EC folks to follow my saga and learn from all my mistakes. Here is Progressive's site.

http://www.progressivemedicalcenter.com

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This recalls an experience I once had trekking the Matanuska Glacier in Alaska; all that "blue ice" is captured Ozone and you can definitely smell it during the summer melting months. Check Cancer demographics in North America, and Alaska is very much the least per capita despite limited food supply and many indoor hrs spent thru the cold, dark winters.

The trick is getting the right amounts of ozone in the body.

Thanks so much for this info as I am suffering from bone & joint infections. My elbows and right knee have been the worst but the entire spine seems to be problematic (but not painful) as Fungal Spores and Mycoplasma infections are released to travel all over the body. Regular Zapping directly over the spine keeps the worst away but more will be needed. Yesterday I used the FIR Belt directly over the spine during footspa w/ good results as I got dizzy afterwards from die-off. My elbows, after almost 2 yrs problematic and using Magnets, Zapping, and Vaporub, seems no better until I recently dipped them daily in the mineral footbath w/ added Oxygen (Sodium Percarbonate) and Colloidal Silver. Now I need that same results to my knee & spine. Unable to receive the professional help I need, would you think maybe wrapping the Knee in a warm wet cloth w/ added Hydrogen Peroxide and Colloidal Silver, then rap that w/ Teflon, puncture a small hole for the insertion of the Ozone tubing would prove effective??

Hello Ole Robert Henry,

Have you tried 20 mule team borax? It is one of the best if not the best for Arthur Itis... He will leave your town for good. The pain will go far away...

HI U MR REE, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , ,

YEP, I do the trick that Ted recommends and have little arthritic problems. Thank you for your concern. In fact, I bought the pharmaceutical grade and learned that it is no different than the 20 Mule Team Borax.

What we have to watch out for is that the alternative folks are getting dang near as bad as our regular MD's. They getting to be money grubbers too. You got to take care of yourself with knowledge.

Just finished my second UBI today followed by an Alapha Liopic Acid IV. Got 3 more to go to get my liver in shape for my devised cancer treatments. I listen and make the decisions. No Cancer doctors involved. We would not get along as all on EC know.

I am first going after my parasites and getting my liver in top shape. Will keep all informed as I go along. I spent a life time solving stinking pulp mill problems. Now I have a challenge of a life time. This one is for keeps. I have enough faith in my judgement that I will listen to smart folks and make the decisions.

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Hi Robert:

Glad to hear that you are making progress in this most recent battle.

Want to thank you for pointing me to this web site.

Have done a lot of reading since we talked at the class reunion in our home town. Have started the wife on ACV and looking at other things to try to get a handle on the ITP.

Prayer and blessing Lester.

PS may see some of your old pulp mill friends headed to McGeehe to a retirement dinner this afternoon.

HI U OLE PATOOTS DOIN, , , , , , , , , , Just got my second shot of Ozone in my back and things appear to be better. This Atlanta group is growing by leaps and bounds. They are opening two new centers in Greater Atlanta and centers in Austin and St Antonio, Tx.

They are so successful using thousands of year old medicine like acupuncture, etc. that I fear that BIG BROTHER will get them. They are not into pills.

I cannot get ozone treatments in Tenn because it is too cheap and too effective. Any Tenn doctor that uses Ozone will be disbarred. How does that ditty go ????? Oh yeah, "FIRST DO NO HARM".

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HI U OLE PATOOTS DOIN, , , , , , , , ,

Got my 4th ozone back shot in Atlanta today and while waiting to pay my bill. There was a little ole lady that everyone that came by was hugging and carrying on like crazy. When things settled down I asked her if this was about Prolozone. She told me she was in her 80's and had not been able to walk without assistance or pain for several years. After 6 Ozone shots she was now walking alone and without pain.

What makes me want to cry is this procedure can only be done in 16 states because it is not approved by the medical boards. One shot cost's $175 and is not covered by insurance. They had rather you pay hundred of thousands on operations which usually leaves you disabled. We are one sick country.

Won't keep beating this dead horse, but a review of Prolozone should be done if you are in joint pain.

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HI U OLE PATOOTS DOIN, , , , , , , , , , , , , the subject tonight is , for lack of a better word, RED ASSIN.

My Ozone generator uses medical oxygen to make ozone that I use it in many procedures to treat my blood cancer. I took my O2 tank today to have it filled by my regular folks. They can't get there from here because they no longer fill O2 cylinders , they get them ready charged and just swap out . My cylinder is from Canada and does not match up with U. S. connections. I am now up a polluted estuary without feasible means of locomotion. In other words , "up shit creek without a paddle".

I then went to the largest O2 bottler in East Tn and they said that the FDA would not allow them to stop the line to fill a off brand tank.

I stayed on the internet and phone for several hours and finally found a firm that will try to convert my connections such that I can uses the US standard O2 cylinders.

I really don't think this stress has helped me. What is so amazing to me is that the people I talked to... just sluffed it off. That's just the way the government is now. You just got to deal with it. Sick, sick, sick.

Guess I won't get much sympathy because I self medicate as do 90% of the folks reading this post. I don't need to be trying to cure my health problems, I need to be in line with all the low information voters to get the government free stuff.

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What was it that crazy wise guy Jim Morrison said "go round the march". That is, why can't one simply use "industrial" grade oxygen (as opposed to medical grade) for the welding shop on the farm. I have also seen amateur folks using cheap oxygen generators for feeding ozone on YouTube.

Also, the corona discharge ozone purity problem, that is the production of nitric oxides, is not so with UV Ozone. UV Ozone does require more energy for production and has a shorter life-span, but it is much cleaner.

PEMF, PULSED ELECTRO MAGNETIC FIELD

HI U OLD PATOOTS DOIN, , , , , , , , , got a new toy as a result of Timh and what Dr Shallenberger says about these devices. I am sold on the fact that we live on oxygen and like Bill Munro, it can cure lots of ails. I have an ozone generator in which I keep my blood saturated with oxygen, but according to Dr Shallenberger, you only half way home. You have to get this oxygen into your cells. He says that a pulsed magnetic device will do just that.

I bought one and have used it for a week on my crushed T 12 vertebrae and on my brain to sleep. Can't speak for the sleep yet, but it is amazing what it does for pain. It has 6 different programs depending on what you want to do. My tractor driver is also using it under her pillow to get in to a relaxed sleep.

My local integrative doctor uses Glutathione to treat dementia patients. It is not covered by insurance and is $ 85 a pop into your veins. The folks in Atlanta introduced me to a cheaper way and that is thru a nebulizer via your lungs. I can use this daily for several months for the price of a couple of IV's. The problem is that our great Gov is now regulating the compounding pharmacies out of business. The two I was using are now out of the business. I found one in Knoxville who spent the money to meet their regulations. We visited them today. I am not into dementia yet, but I don't function like a 18 year old anymore either.

Head back to the farm at daylight to gather veggies. Owe a friend two watermelons as a result of him giving us two messes of Crappie this spring. Dang, who says you need money. Bartering has always worked. You scratch my back and I'll scratch yours.

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Which PEMF device did you buy? Sounds interesting.

Thanks, Steve

HI U STEVE, , , , , , , boy you just down the road from Dr Shallenberger in Carson City. I'd go see that guy. He's the best.

What I bought was the FlexPulse that was designed in Germany and made somers in Europe.

If interested then, use Dr Shellenbergers name and get a discount. It is not cheap, but at 79, who is counting.

Got a good story to tell. In a car accident in '98 following the Arkansas- Tenn foot ball game. A drunk came across 4 lanes and crashed us into the concrete dividing barrier. Messed up my shoulder and knocked out the lens in my left eye. Other than that, there was no problem.

I went to a orthopecic surgeon who graduated from Dartmouth. He thought that when he went to the bathroom he did not have to turn on the fan, nor strike a match. All he did was for naught and after I read about magnets I bought a system from Sears Robuck.

The last time I saw him was when he asked how I was doing. I told him that I was much better after I started using the Sears magnetics. He said he did not need to see me again. Sounds right to me. Most MD's die from drowning after they fall in love with their image in the pool.

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I've had pretty good success with the sota MP6. Not as fancy as yours but does the job for pain relief and pulsing lymph nodes etc. Thanks for sharing the info. Cool stuff.

Steve

HI U OLE PATOOTS DOIN, , , , , , , , , , , , ,

Stopped in Atlanta to get a Prolozone shot for my back on the way to the Gulf. Following my Ozone shot my doctor recommended that I do PEMF to enhance the shot. I have a flex pulse devise, but nothing to compare to what I went though. It came through my T 12 vertebrae, but my stomach was jumping an inch with each pulse. It was unreal.

Good people there are many things that the natural medicals have that... you have no clue. I think EC is the cat's meow, but the natural folks are way ahead of us by thousands of years with acupuncture and many other things.

Just because your regular doctor has no clue does not mean that the natural folks can not help with your ails. All our bright folks on this site help, but they are limited. I listen to them but I know the natural doctors can have tests run that EC folks cannot.

My message is to use EC and if it solves your problem then....... glory. If not , then go through a naturopath in your area.

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HI U OLE PATOOTS, , , , , , , , right now I'm low. My lower back has been killing me since my last Ozone shot two weeks ago. Something happened, but I have no clue.

I had an MRI done, but the spine doctor can't see me for another month. AYSM. In everyones life , a little rain must fall. I'm in a monsoon .

It appears that old age is finally turning this wild and strange guy into an old, old man. Before my fall, I was full of piss and vinegar but pain will change your personality 180.

I think about all the stuff that Timh has gone through at his young age. He does not have hoof and mouth disease like I'm getting. He is still full of P&V. I envy him.

Something has happened to me and I'll get to the bottom of it and write ATS. In the meantime, I'm headed back to Atlanta to get another shot of Ozone this Monday.

Suggest all stuff your mattress with what extra cash you have. The Davos attendees have a master plan for all us ignorant serfs and it will not be fun. They update it yearly. Life is just before getting very interesting.

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How is your sleeping posture? Do you sleep with a magnet pad at the location of injury? Can a Chiro help? Once a day lay flat of your posterior on the house floor for a few minutes then roll over flat of your anterior.

Are your bone minerals like Calcium/Magnesium, Boron, Manganese, and Strontium up to par? Are you free of heavey metals, surely you are by all the I.V. EDTA treatments you've had. Maybe you didn't replace enough minerals during or after the EDTA?

It appears the ozone is reacting to something that oxygen cannot remove. I am still removing heavy metals from my bones and must also take minerals in a hot bath to fill the empty spaces. I have all these M in bulk powder form and will gladly ship you a package containing each for a hot bath. During the bath take 2-3 capsules of Sarsaparilla herb to remove any radiation.

As for pain & inflammation, get the strongest magnet you can lay your hands on for the injured area. The strong magnet will also kill pathogens.

As for the general condition of blood cancer and now the spine problem of pain, there is one powerful herb for both --Hemp/CBD Oil. Please go to Amazon.com and purchase at least a 4oz bottle which should contain about 500mg CBD and see if you don't have a positive response.

Don't recall if I have your address but you can e-mail me and I will send you the minerals and herb, plus the other remedies your doing, and maybe you be well enough to make the garden come spring.

ORH, you are definitely NOT an "old, old man" so knock that outta yo head!! You'll beat this, and we're here to cheer you on!!

HI U TIMH, , , , , , , , , thanks for the pointers. As you know I have 3 serious heath issues, A Fib, cancer, and my back. I try to address all, but the back pain has consumed me. Hopefully the MRI will head me in the right direction. I fear the crushed T 12 has my back discombobulate and my CP was unable to get me relief so I dropped him for other treatments.

Getting to see a top notch medical specialist in this area is a long wait.... because I will not see a second teamer. Let me digest your counsel and I will get back to you.

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Robert Henry...have you tried any DMSO cream on T-12 area? May help inflammation a lot. Google DMSO...Dr. Jacobs 60 Minutes....

That three part on DMSO talks a lot about vertebra and DMSO.

ORH....I stumbled across the web site of Dr. Robert Morris ND. He states that all disease stems from the kidneys, adrenals and lymph system not working. I looked the site over and find his information to make sense. His focus is a vegan lifestyle (at least to start) with only fruits in the a.m. Please check him out on You Tube.

Hang in there, I love following your posts.

Jan

HI YA'LL DOIN,,,,,,,,,,, knee is giving me fits, so I go to Atlanta tomorrow to get an ozone shot. My knee doctor keeps telling me that I need a replacement. "KISS MY GRITS". An ozone shot gets me about 3 years down the road. At 79, I only need a few more to get me out. Ya'll behave for a change.

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Great info. How are u doing now? I looked up Prolozone therapy in TN and there are a few places doing it here now, so rules must have changed? Dr. Shallenburger..spelling..u mentioned is one!

KATHY,,,,,,,, you are my neighbor just up the Tn River from me. The Prolotherapy and Prolozone are two different. In Prolotherapy the doctor uses a dextrose syringe to damage your ligaments and cartilage. Your immune system then comes to repair the damage. It is extremely painful. I had five shots to my knee with no results. My Tractor Driver had one to her shoulder with great results. The pain was so intense for her that she passed out and stop breathing. Scared my mule. Prolozone is where ozone is injected into a joint cavity and there is no pain. I had one shot in my knee and was good to go. I had several in my lumbar region and got no relief. The Tn Medical Board allows Prolotherapy but not Prolozone . They have taken at least one doctor's license that I am aware of. There are several dentist using ozone in lieu of root canals. If you are interested in Prolozone, I'm afraid you will have to go to Atlanta, like I did. Wish you well.

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Robert Henry, can you please give me the name of the doctor you go to in Georgia? The only options I find are for the hyperbaric chamber.

HI U EDUCATED, , , , , , , , I see Dr Matalone D.O. at The Progressive Medical Center in Dunwoody. He trained under Dr Shallenberger. They are expanding and now have two more clinics in Atlanta and several in Texas. They do have the hyberbaric chambers, but I don't know it theirs is the latest pressurized ones. They are on the internet and have taken good care of me with Prolozone shots in my back and knee.

Here is their URL

http://www.progressivemedicalcenter.com

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ORH,

My daughter works with a nice family man who was diagnosed with cancer in his neck. He went throught chemo and radiation and seemed to be doing well, but has recently learned the cancer has come back and is now in his brain and liver. Do you have a recommendation for a good holistic doctor for this? We are trying to compile some resources for him and his wife since it is difficult to think clearly under such circumstances. Any suggestions would be welcomed. Thank you.

HI U Rsw, , , , , , , , first you must understand that I am just smart enough to be dangerous.

Here is what is known...... cancer can't live in oxygen nor an alkaline environment. Stress helps the buggers but I have no clue how to address that because I'm a get on or get off or get your ass out to the way kind of guy. Some call that stress personified...... A type A personality.

To get alkaline , do a tsp of baking soda at daybreak and dark. Do Ole Bill Munro's H2O2 up to 8x a day over time. Drink lots of water. Go to the Cancer Tutor website , read and chose a protocol that you feel comfortable with. I have lots of health toys that cost lots of money. This includes an alkaline ionizer, a FIR Sauna, an Ozone Generator, a GB 4000 plasma Rife Machine and work my ass off in our garden raising healthy vegetables.

I do have a doctor that can measure my progress with a DNA test. I was one of the best in the paper industry because I tested ever stage in the process. Few people did that and had no clue when nor where things went array. There should be a way to do that with your body.

For instance, it only takes pennies to test your pH but how many people do that? pH is a big deal. Do you look at your stool with every bowel movement? Hell, that's fundamental to your health. Do you look at your tongue? Your eyes? Do your nails have fungus or ridges?

Rsw, if I had the answers then I would not be wearing Walmart blue jeans. One other thing, I address is my immune system and take Transfer Point's Beta1,3D Glucan.

Do magnesium transdermally daily, do skin brushing daily , do a rebounder daily, do coffee emma's 1X a week. Do a niacin flush 3x a week. Sweat.

The list is endless, but read and when you get tired of reading , then read some more.

There are lots of folks that come to this site and expect a simple solution. I think if you ask the best posters here they will tell you that there is no short cut. Ask Ted, Bill, Dave, Momma or Timh and they will tell you that good health is not easy.

I thank you for considering that I could help. I have tried, but no one except the Lone Ranger has a silver bullet.

In short, If I cannot cure my cancer, then I'm headed to either Dr Frank Shallenberger or Dr Robert Rowen. They are the brightest I know of.

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ORH,

Many thanks for your comprehensive response. I appreciate your time and sharing of your knowledge. I will pass the information along, and also keep it in mind if needed for future reference. I have been trying to compile suggestions from people over the years, and I see some survivors of what appeared to be dire circumstances with cancer also used the Beta Glucan, paw paw and IP6, and some used LDN or OGF from Germany, among other protocols.

I wish you many happy and healthy years ahead to be able to steer us down the road with our many questions. We all appreciate and take your comments to heart, and many of us are enjoying your advice on gardening. I used the hydrogen peroxide and water spray just the other day on my tomatoe stems.(I have 2 tomatoe plants, 6 kale, a few beans and some various herbs in a 3'X6' raised bed) I like the pictures you post because I can understand what you are saying better when I see a picture since I'm not familiar with a lot of gardening terms. Thank you for all you do for the Earth Clinic family.

Dear Robert Henry, Just read everything you posted and really appreciate all of it. Thank you...wish I knew you in person! Wish I had your p&v and outlook. I am 64. I want to try prolozone therapy. Has it permanently helped your mid back pain? Please tell me how you use 20 Mule Team Borax. About your tomato plants -- you sprayed them with a hydrogen peroxide and water mixture? Please tell me why and how. We have a small garden and tomatoes in pots on our deck. I hope you reply. I will look forward to your posts. Most sincerely, Cheryl (())'s

HI U GOOD PEOPLE DOIN,,,,,,,,,, well, I tried Dr Shallenberger's Triple Threat and survived with blood shot eyes. Got up early so I could do this. First, I got in the shower and sprayed down with MgCl and then did an ozone ear insuffalation. Then I heated up in the sauna for 15 minutes to get a good sweat going. Next, I got into my ozone suit and set up my oxygen breathing system. Only did 15 minutes instead of 20 on the first try. Felt OK afterwards..... lets just see if I live to my goal of 92. If I's not oxygenated then there is no such thing. Oxygen was going in via my ears, and breathing and Ozone was going in transdermerly.

If you have followed my thread on this new protocol, then you know that I bastardized Dr Shallenberger's program, in that I first talked to my oxygen supplier on how to use medical oxygen instead of the $6000 device recommended. They said to get your doctor to write a prescription for 4 liters of oxygen. My Nurse Practitioner did that. You have to get up before daylight to out sheet this ole sheeter.

Don't know why my eyes looked like they did after a Ga Tech Saturday night fraternity party back in the '50's, but they did. Study hard and party hard.

Out of spit. =====ORH======

ORH, maybe them eyes are telling you to go a bit lower and slower. Meby.

Mmsg,,,,,,,,,,, I am an extremist and as Goldwater said "extremism in the search of liberty is not a vice, but a virtue". I converted when I read his book back in the '60's. Life is now so much more fun. You have a compass. No way will I slow down. Full speed ahead as Teddy said.

That is my motto. ====ORH===

Best of luck ORH!! And make sure to take pleny of antioxidents to balance things out. But growing your own produce sure gives you lots of that!!