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(WA)
12/22/2022
When it comes to milk, it can't be just any milk it needs to be fat free for it to help with heartburn and acid reflux. So skim milk helps relieve acid reflux.
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This is what I came up with that HELPED me, halls throat soother for my vocal cords, magnesium citrate to help relax the lower sphincter in the stomach and to keep bowel movements regular. Slow digestion can creat acid reflux by creating pressure. Same with spicy foods, coffee, etc. I also took l-glutamine, probiotics, and digestive enzymes. I found for me the digestive enzymes were good to take between meals as well. You can try and see if that works. I also purchased zinc carnosine (Pepcix). It is used in Japan extensively for acid reflux. It helps heal the damage done by the acid. I also read a study that melatonin could help acid reflux and took that a bedtime. I found drinking lots of water(to wash throat of acid) and elevating my bed of great benefit as well. I found taking apple cider vinegar a horrific experience, if you have LPR do NOT use acv! It will burn, burn, burn the already burned esophagus. Don't do it. I also bought gaviscon from Canada pharmacy online to chew up at night before I went sleep to create a barrier. I bought from Canada because the gavision in American has aluminum; I don't want to ingest aluminum. Sometimes I took digestive enzymes before I went to sleep to help with night time acid production. It took months and months to heal, but I blame that on doctors who insisted for months that I had asthma.give all of these things a try. Oh yeah, some people have success with DGL.
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(Philly, Pa)
07/10/2013
Check your medication to see if you have fluoride poisoning. If so, you need to detox the fluoride to prevent further damage. Boron, calcium and iodine are very useful for detoxing fluoride. There are places in India where ground water is dangerously high in fluoride. Find an Ayurvedic doctor and stay away from western medicine.
Hi Puneet, Pain killers have the side effect of Reflux for some, because they create extra acidic environment in the system. To start with why are you taking the pain killers? If you can have some alternate for the problem for which you are taking the pain killers and in turn are having the Reflax and pain, logically pain killers should be stopped and some other alternate be looked for. Unless we know the reason which makes you to take the pain killers, it will be difficult to suggest any alternate. Good Luck
Baldev
(USA)
07/11/2013
I, too, get reflux from pain meds. I have neck and shoulder pain from injuries and now I work at a computer all day. My bad eyes make me hold my neck a certain way and boy, do I hurt. I got an ulcer from taking advil. I now take astaxanthin and serrapeptase, but still get reflux. I take heartburn ease for the acid, but not a fix. What should I take for pain?
(The Usa)
07/11/2013
Just a suggestion---pain is inflammation... Turmeric and ginger are reported to reduce inflammation... they have worked for me but you have to keep in mind things you may be eating that contribute to inflammation.
(Somewhere, Europe)
07/11/2013
Trudyg, get up and walk around often. Do head/neck stretches often. Keep circulation going!
Hi Trudyg, For your kind of problem, I suggest you apply Magnesium Oil on the area where you get pain. It will be still better if you mix DMSO 80% and Magnesium Oil 50:50 and this mixture's application will surely give you relief from the pain and no acid reflux.
Baldev
(Middle, Tennessee, Usa)
07/11/2013
Trudyg, Have you tried apple cider vinegar (internally) for the pain? Some find it helps pain that is arthritis related. It may also help the reflux. (It keeps mine in check.)
Apple Cider Vinegar topically is also something we have found helpful for pain. We soak a cloth with it and cover with plastic and then another towel. Not very convenient for neck and shoulder... I think it reduces inflammation. We have seen this help very much many times.
Castor Oil and or Peppermint essential oil can also be applied topically for the pain.
White Willow Bark Capsules are a good herb for pain, but I find they only help with mild pain.
Alternating Hot and Cold (heating pad, then frozen rice sock) is something else that is good for pain.)
I do notice that sugar consumption makes my pain worse. (I have scoliosis and my back is always off, so I am often dealing with some kind of back or neck or hip pain. Peppermint oil and avoiding sugar, hot and cold have all helped me at different times.)
Hope you find something to help... Have a great day!
~Mama to Many~
(The Usa)
07/11/2013
Neglected to mention that I had read a doctor reported indigestion is caused by too many carbs in your diet. It would be a good idea to ask for the package insert for your medication--not the computer print-out. See if the ingredients include any kind of starch. When I started to have a lot of indigestion I learned it was from what the animals were being fed that I was eating. I am not going to go into detail here unless someone is truly interested. After I read what the doctor reported and started to pay attention to what I was ingesting I began to realize what he reported was accurate. I can report that this is what also caused me be to incontinent for a short time. Once I became aware and started to reduce my consumption of GMO's the problems ceased. It is difficult because all of our food has been corrupted. We are not only exposed to GMO's in our food, our medications and/or supplements come from this food. Organic is not safe and, for me, it was worse. This discovery was after phone calls, screening and very expensive purchases.
(Mass., US)
08/07/2014
I found that I had severe acid reflux; then I read in a med.journal not to eat sweets or dark sodas or caffeen. This one time I went on a cruise and cheated on my diet and ate large amounts of sweets because they were so good. I just made it home in time to go into ER and have my gallbladder removed. The doctor said I was very lucky because if I had of still been on that cruise another day I would have died; the Dr. said my gallbladder was right on top of my liver. I still cheat on my diet and shouldn't because I found I have a tumor on my spine where it spread to my brain. I do herbs which help some. It's so painful from head to toe. The best results is much prayers. God Bless.
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(Marianna, Fl)
04/24/2010
I have just recently started having somewhat the same symptoms you are experiencing. However, mine does not have the burning sensation at all, mine is pure raw pain at times. The lump in my throat is very uncomfortable and the pain in my chest right around my esophagus can be excrutiating at times. I have arthritis in every joint and I have been taking ibuprophen pm everynight to help me rest since there is no comfortable position. I have just recently started investigating this and was deathly afraid of cancer of the esophagus. Have apt set to see Dr. This has relieved me tremendously, but I sure sympathize with the pain.
(Portland, Oregon)
04/07/2011
RAW Apple cider vinegar
1-2 T vinegar
1/3-1/2 t Baking soda
4-6 oz water
Tall glass for fizz reaction and bang it down to Alkalinize your stomach. Must use RAW Apple Cider Vinegar to make it turn from an acid to an alkaline in your stomach. I spell relief "BURP"
Pure Turmeric with coconut oil. I make a lukewarm drink of Coconut (vanilla flavored)milk with a spoon of coconut oil to melt and 1/2 t turmeric. Mix and sip. If you like curry, this will taste good and comforting. Tummy ache from meds will be all gone.
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(Joelton, Tn.)
06/17/2008
Hi Ross from Vancouver. Please be aware that there is lots of controversy with prolonged use of Tyelnol (acetaminophen) even at recommended levels. Too much tylenol destroys the liver. It is also recommended that you never take it on an empty stomach. Why are you taking all these pain medicines for such a long period? If it's joint pain or post-traumatic arthritis type pain, consider MSM (methylsulfonylmethane) instead. One fellow I got started taking it for post fracture/repair pain liked the way it worked so well that he gave it out for Xmas presents that year. It is a whole lot safer than NSAIDS or tylenol.
(Stockholm, Sweden)
08/16/2012
Why take such bad medication for Diabetic Neuropathy?
When you can take Evening Primrose tablets? I'm Diabetic and I take very few meds because the more meds the more side effects. Evening Primrose really works... You need about 5 or six days to notice the results.. And walk as much as you can to keep circulaton going. Pain killers all have terrible side effects. Ask your Dr if you can try Evening Primrose.. And just a normal daily dose. More is NOT better. Good luck :-)
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I had minor cosmetic surgery that involved removing some of the "matrix fat" in my lower abdominal area. To put me to sleep for the surgery, I was given one Benedryl tablet. After the surgery, I had acid reflux -- although it remained mild and went away in a couple of weeks. I attributed the problem to the one Benedryl tablet. After the acid reflux went away, I thought maybe the Benedryl had been falsely accused. So I took a tablet to sleep one night, and the next day was fine. That night I took another Benedryl, and I had acid reflux the next day.
I stopped the Benedryl and was fine in about a week. I then had further cosmetic surgery and more matrix fat was removed from my abdomen. I took just one more Benedryl tablet for this surgery. The next day my throat was closing up and I've had daily acid reflux for 3 weeks now.
I am sure the Benedryl is part of the problem. I may also have been exposed to some bacterial infection in the doctor's office where both surgeries were performed under not overly sterile conditions (but then I've had plenty of surgeries in other doctors' offices with no problem re it not being very sterile). I'm just saying its possible I was exposed to some acid reflux causing bacteria in this doctor's office. It's also possible that the removal of the matrix fat itself somehow removed some sort of protective hormone in this fat -- just a theory.
I've also noticed that eating Flan seems to badly trigger the acid reflux (although I ate the same Flan constantly up until I took the Benedryl for the first time without a problem).
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(Halifax, Yorkshire England)
05/10/2009
have you tried salt gargle I had lump in my throat for a long time I gargled with salt and it was cured in days
(New York, Ny)
08/31/2009
I have had a lump in my throat for about 4 months now and have some discomfort at my sternum (where the sphincter is in your stomach). I have been taking many brands of medications for reflux and nothing helped. I am a healthy, active, slim individual in her 40's and in the past could eat anything including spicy foods. But for the past 4 months nothing would work until I started reading all of your recommedations for Apple Cider Vinegar. I thought it was a crazy idea but at this point I wanted to try anything to make this discomfort go away. And to my surprise this is the only thing that helped. Started helping the first day. Took two teaspoons of ACV in a glass of water 3 times a day. And now I read about the connection of Acid reflux to ibuprofen. I have been taking ibuprofen for migraines and sinus headaches for over 15 years now. Usually every other month. That is the only medication that works for my headache. Very scary thought that this may be the cause of my symptoms. It seems my symptoms and use of ibuprofen sounds like the rest of you. I will now look into other medications for my migraines.
(Punxsutawney, Pa)
09/01/2009
Just FYI for the people who have never heard of this, but aspirin, ibuprofen, acetaminofen, etc, even willow bark extract, can cause a rebound effect. That is, when you take a pain killer for a headache, when it wears off you get, surprize...a headache!, especially if you take a pain killer often.
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As for GERD, it is mostly caused by stress, caffeine, alcohol and over eating, and having a hiatal hernia contributes as well. I am all for natural cures, However, they may just mask the symptoms.
My husband never had heart-burn. He Had a gastroscopy for stomach problems which was Gastritis, and it was discovered then, that he had damage to his esophagous.
Interestingly our Endoscopy Suite, we found that people with symptons of pain and burning had less Barret's, because they usually sought treatment before damage occurred.
My husband has been on Protonix since he was 53 years old (he is now 66)and over the years, protecting his esophagous with Protonix, his Barrett's is actually healing.
He must have a Gastroscopy every 2 years, to keep track of this condition, as Barrett's Syndrome (caused by acid reflux into the esophagous which changes the esophageal lining from normal to that of the stomach)is abnormal and is a pre-cancerous condition because stomach lining doesn't belong in the esophagous.
For people who have non-healing Barrett's or excruciatingly painful GERD, there is a procedure called Nissan Fundiplication that has been helpful. Look for a G.I. or General Surgeon who has done many of these procedures and ask if he will talk to previous NF patients that would be willing to talk to you, about their results. Hope this Helps.
(Daytona, Fl)
03/09/2012
Yeah, my GI told me that too, they all do, but they are wrong. Gerd is definitely related to NsAIDs, ibuprofen and the others. I think they just want you to keep taking them so you can keep coming back to them to get scoped and your ppi prescriptions. I got my gerd from aspirin that I took for years for a medical condition. My GI told me it wasn't the aspirin, but when I stop the aspirin the gerd gors away completely in a couple of months, when I take aspirin it comes right back. Doctors are not always right, and this is one they are very wrong.
(Middleton, Idaho)
08/13/2012
My GI doc specifically told me that my use of Ibuprofen was most likely the primary cause of my acid reflux as I do not smoke, drink, or overheat. In fact I'm slender.
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(Houston, TX)
04/17/2009
I had a very similar experience. I have NEVER had any stomach/acid reflux problems. No matter what I ate. A month ago I had some body pains so started taking ibuprofin (over the suggested limite, I took 8 in one day the second day I was taking them). I also mixed it with Vikoden. Well, I developed irratated stomach lining (not an ulcer yet) and have had acid reflux now for about 3 weeks. I dont know if it well ever go away.
For clarification, I was only on ibuprofin for 2 days and only mixed them with 1 pill of Vikoden twice. I stopped all medication after the stomack issues.
Symptoms include:
Coughing
Feeling of something in the back of my throat
Waking up at night choking
Random vomiting
Steps Taken:
Elevated bed, mattress and multiple pillows
Sleep on left side (this REALLY helps)
Take Whole leaf aloe
Eat last meal 4 hours or more before bedtime
(Austin, Tx)
04/18/2009
IMO why pain-killers make you have gastric problems may be because they delay digestion and then the food sits in your stomach longer and may even start to rot and give off gas, acids, etc. before it gets digested.
Hello Lisa, Your suspicion of ibuprofen causing your stomach upset is probably right for it is an NSAID and the whole family of them are notarious for causing stomach problems ranging from acid regurg to outright bleeding peptic ulcers. It may sound strange but cayenne pepper will probably be kinder to your stomach than the prescribed medicine that you said isn't helping much.
For future reference, MSM also has an anti-inflammatory action but without the side effects of the nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs. It is also a natural substance found in our bodies, but the NSAIDS aren't.
(Boston, Ma)
08/28/2011
Thanks to all of you for sharing your info and experiences. I have been an avid user of Ibuprofen for years and recently had minor surgery where I was prescribed Tylenol w/codene (sp?). I finished about 3/4 of the prescription and since then, I have been suffering the same symptoms as "Step in Houston" w/random vomitting, choking and coughing in middle of night, lump in my throat and acid reflux or heartburn. Since I am a very healthy person in my 40's, I was concerned this would may become a permanent condition. Now I am convinced that it was from the prescription pain killer and plan to try the ACV and lay off the Ibuprofen for awhile to see if I can get rid of it for good. Thanks again all you posters!
(England)
06/16/2014
Hello, I had no problems with stomach until I had a lot of sinus problems and the doctor kept putting me on courses of antibiotics and steroids. The next thing I new I had stomach ulcer(s) and then headaches and then silent acid reflux and headaches.
I am now taking cimetidine which helped for a bit and now does not. It is always worse on waking. Am looking into ways to get better naturally - hopefully.
In England very few of the doctors accept or believe there is any connection to diet and know nothing about nutrition etc nor do they accept there can be a connection between stomach and sinus/head/ears.
(Fountain Inn, Sc)
06/16/2014
To Carmel from England;
Re ... ulcers;
I've fought off ulcers once and two other times when one was starting up.
Two things must happen when I deal with ulcers.
I get off all carbonated drinks and stop all acidic foods...ketchup; chili; tomatoes; coffee (even de caff) etc.
I eat steamed vegetables during this two to three month program. I can eat breads and butter but nothing that will cause digestive stress (no red meat). And no ice cream.
Basically, a bland diet.
Second: There are three things I must do by way of "nutrient" supplement. First, to kill the probable bacteria in stomach I drink on empty stomach, Colloidal Silver twice daily. I also drink four tablespoons of aloe vera juice. That aloe is a burn healer. I do that for a full two months. Especially important to take that on empty stomach and one of the daily doses before bed. I start feeling better without morning burn within a few days. And finally I take DGL which is a licorice extract. Three pills twice daily following the aloe drink.
I keep this up for at least two months and three if there is any indication the burning is still present.
(San Fenando, Philippines)
06/16/2014
Hi Carmel...Regarding your ulcer I would follow Dave from Fountain Inn's ulcer therapy and perhaps add mastic gum to it as well.
Your GERD problems are an entirely separate issue. Your doctor, like most doctors, has probably advised the wrong treatment for you. GERD problems usually always arise because of too little stomach acid and not because of too much stomach acd. You can get your stomach acid tested using the Heidelberg Test - I would strongly advise that you do this test. So taking cimetidine -- the wrong therapy -- to reduce stomach acid even more is bound to lead to many more health problems in the future.
If you have low stomach acid then your pepsin enzymes for stomach digestion will be impaired. More importantly if your stomach acid isn't up to scratch or is not strong enough then this means that your intestines will have no protection against any viruses, bacteria and fungus incoming with your food. Correct levels and strength of stomach acid acts to kill all pathogens in the food. If you therefore have low stomach acid then this means that your health will inevitably become worse because pathogens from your food will have a free and unhindered passage directly into your intestines.
You need to take betaine hydrochloride with pancreatin enzymes (with papain and bromelain) at every meal to secure proper stomach acid strength and to help digest your food properly. Taking betaine HCL will both help to restore proper levels of stomach acid and also help to protect against pathogens incoming with food.
Main stage digestion -- where everything gets digested -- occurs in the duodenum. When the stomach acid is at the right strength it triggers the pancreatic juices to secrete bicarbonates and enzymes into the duodenum. But if the stomach acid is too low or at incorrect strength this will not happen. The bicarbonates from the pancreas act to neutralize the chyme or stomach acid plus food in order to provide the correct alkaline to neutral environment so that the duodenal enzymes can do their job. If the acid stomach chyme has not been neutralized in the duodenum then the duodenal enzymes(which are also triggered by correct stomach acid strength) will not be able to do their job in an acidic environment. So the food just sits there in the duodenum undigested, stagnating and fast-breeding pathogens. And this is what causes GERD.
This is why you should also take 1/2 tspn Baking Soda(sodium Bicarbontate) about an hour after you have eaten every meal -- when stomach digestion has finished and duodenal digestion is ongoing. Doing this provides the optimum alkaline to neutral environment for the duodenal enzymes to work in.
Iodine is also necessary for the stomach to heal and produce gastric acid so taking a liquid kelp extract with water will also help you. Also taking Magnesium Chloride as Magnesium Oil (ten drops twice a day at mealtimes) will help to replenish your HCL stores in the stomach.
For more details and explanations on how to cure your GERD problems see this link:
http://chriskresser.com/get-rid-of-heartburn-and-gerd-forever-in-three-simple-steps
(Clacton)
06/18/2014
Re: Acid Reflux and Stomach Ulcers: Thank you for this information, have written it all down.
I would like to add that in my case I don't get heartburn etc I just get a bad stomach that comes and goes and dull bad headaches and blocked and sometimes painful ear. This is always the right ear - the one I sleep on. Sometimes face pain.
My appetite is great. Previously I would sometimes get my nose just suddenly running like a tap and then stop.
Yesterday in desperation to feel better I took three high dose biotics and hours later had a terrible stomach and my right ear is worse! So will not do that again.
Have been taking two fibre capsules a day but now notice that when I take them I am more likely to get nausea and a bad stomach after. Should I continue with the fibre capsules? Should I continue with two multi vitamins a day? Should I continue with my fish oil omega 3?
Thanks so much for being there, am feeling bad and it does help to know someone cares and is on your side.
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