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Water Kefir
Posted by Dmarshall029 (Trenton, MI) on 10/25/2014
I have had pneumonia for 3 1/2 months now. They have tried 3 courses of antibiotics to cure it, but nothing seems to help. It has been mild, they term it walking pneumonia, but it just won't cure. I am really wondering if water kefir (which I believe is awesome btw!) may have caused this accidentally, but my Dr was immediately dismissive of the idea. I make homemade water kefir so it is really rich in bacteria and about 2 weeks before I started noticing the breathing pain I accidentally inhaled some water kefir when drinking it, it was a good amount because I really choked on it. I never thought a whole lot about the pain I started having in my back when taking deep breaths because I never had any other symptoms, thought it was a pulled muscle (my doctor thought the same thing when I went in 6 weeks later). Eventually the pneumonia was found on a CT scan and it had become a somewhat larger case because it had been there so long I guess. Anyhow, I am wondering if this may be an opportunistic infection of "good bacteria" simply because it ended up in the wrong place and maybe that's why the antibiotics they keep giving me aren't working because they are aimed at the "bad bacteria". Any information would be greatly appreciated!!!
Colloidal Silver
Posted by Tom (Fort Worth, Texas) on 09/30/2013
Andrea from Wales: Re your advice on use of colloidal silver in a nebulizer for lung infection:
I've written similar instructions on Earth Clinic in two or three post locations but your description is superior and the idea of using Epsom Salts first is sage. CS is my very favorite virucide. Have you ever tried MMS? I just started reading about it. My mind is always open to new concepts but I'd be hard pressed to beat CS.
Great post ... Please put up more. You are most insightful.
PS....I love Wales. Ancestors from Wales.
Colloidal Silver
Posted by Andrea C (Wales) on 10/01/2013
Helo, shw mae Twm? (pronunciation: Hello shoe my Tomb?) Hello, how are you Tom? In answer to your question about MMS. I have never tried it but I have read a lot about it and watched videos on youtube, and it's had some amazing results, but I am weary of it. I don't know why, but personally I wouldn't use it call it instinct if you want, but there is something that doesn't sit right about it in my mind. A lot of people swear by it, but every time I think about using it I feel negative about the outcome of its use, and I tend to listen to my inner self when it comes to trying remedies out. For instance, I have D.M.S.O, I used it on my Brother when he was crippled up with Arthritis in his hand, an it worked a miracle on him and he's now returned to work where as he had to leave his job and could barely use his hand at all. I tried it on myself, it took the pain of two broken toes away for a few seconds then my head felt like it was hit by Thor's hammer! I had to lay down where I was for half an hour, but I think this reaction may have been caused by plaster adhesive I didn't know was still on my skin after washing the area well before use. I haven't used it since, but I feel that it should be used on certain bodily areas when you have some one that can help you apply it where it's needed, as you can't always see certain areas clearly enough. I would use it again, but with help next time. MMS just doesn't appeal to me, but if my back was truly against the wall, I possibly might, but I wouldn't be happy about it. I am not saying no one should use it, but it's just not for me at this present time. I was wondering what are you thinking of using it for, or are you just curious about it? Love Andrea C xxxx
Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Sarah (Newark, Nj) on 03/13/2012
Yes, Thanks so much for your comments, Melissa and Lisa, you know? about a month after all that happened I noticed my son was getting something, like a cold or the flu, because he had a little fever, he was a little less energetic, etc. So again I rubbed him with peroxide and it helped again. The peroxide helps to stop whatever virus or other thing from spreading or continuing to harm your body. I also agree about the importance of the soothing touch, and even when I wasn't in favor of the antibiotics, (specially since it seems this was a virus) I was too scared to risk not obeying the doctor. I never thought something so simple as Hydrogen Peroxide could help so much. Thank you guys for your explanations and information and thanks to Earth Clinic, I am learning a lot.
Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Robert. (USA) on 04/25/2022
It gets absorbed through the skin. I read on a cancer blog that this is standard procedure for cancer suffers being treated in their care. You must be careful as it kills all bacteria both the good and bad, so a probiotic is in order when using it, milk kefir is the best and easy to make at home. CDS water the aqueous form of MMS is easy to make and does the same thing but will not kill off the good bacteria. You don't get the common side effects of MMS with CDS Water. You can just put it in some water and drink it or just put it in a jar and leave open by the baby or whoever it will diffuse on its own but will need to be replaced in 2-3 days, so this can get expensive. You can also use this in a vape pen or a small cold nebulizer, no need for any mask, just get the mist in his face, so he can inhale it.
Tea Tree Oil in Diffuser
Posted by KS (IL) on 04/25/2022
Thank you! I am still recovering from Covid but, still have sinus and chest congestion and fatigue. Some days are better than others.
Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Addylynn (Atlanta, Ga) on 08/11/2020
Hello, I was hospitalized for a severe case of pneumonia and pleural effusion on one lung. (Covid 19 test was negative.)
The pneumonia cleared up rather quickly but the pleural effusion was getting worse and I became the lucky recipient of a chest tube. The doctors used enzymes to dissolve the fluid then drain it. It wasn't as successful as they hoped after repeating this a few times. Eventually they let me go home to see what my body would work out on its own and come back in a month. Fortunately, my body worked out a good amount of the fluid and found I have a fair amount of scar tissue from the pneumonia.
I feel ok, energy level is still a little off and the oxygen level is good. But I have a lingering pain when I take a deep breath but not when I breath normally. Does it get any better? What about the pneumonia shot? Should I get it?
Lastly, the respiratory therapist in the hospital was a Russian lady and she was gold to me. She told me after I get out, I should take a teaspoon of food grade peroxide everyday and I will never have lung issues again. Does anybody have experience with this protocol?
Lastly, thank you for your response.
Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Narda (NYC) on 05/17/2022
A key with the internal use of Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide is its dilution. 3% is too strong for most people. You don't want to cause an oxygen burn to tissues. For drinking, I have personally used a glassful first thing in the morning before food, taken from a preparation of 2 Tablespoons of 8% in a liter of distilled water. Not sure what percentage that is... but I feel a good rule of thumb for drinking is that it should not taste yucky. Palatable taste is an indicator that it is a biologically friendly dilution.
Colloidal Silver
Posted by Cassie (Eastcoast, USA) on 03/09/2020
Has anybody used Mesosilver? It is labelled a colloidal but the nanoparticles are under 1 nanometer, and I am just wondering if people have had success or not with it. I was using Source Naturals 30ppm and felt like the results were miraculous, but got this Mesosilver and don't feel it is as effective, although 8.5oz cost around $30 (reason for buying).
Colloidal Silver
Posted by Rebeca (Toronto, Ontario Canada) on 03/27/2020
How much colloidal silver is used in a nebulizer and how often per day? This wb for the treatment of pneumonia.
Turmeric and Garlic
Posted by waynosgirl (Utah, USA) on 11/24/2019
Around a year ago, my husband got where he could not raise his left arm above the shoulder. He did not think too much about it as he has an old injury of the shoulder blade. Then about 8 months ago he noticed swelling at the top of his left leg where it meets the groin that has gotten progressively worse. We don't have insurance and he refused to address the issue medically.
Then about 2 weeks ago he was unable to pull in a sufficient amount of air, so i took him up to our medical center because I was thinking pneumonia, which they agreed was the problem. They put him on a strong antibiotic, and water pills. It immediately began to improve, we also asked for and received medication to use in a nebulizer.
He lost over 8lbs in fluids from the water pills in about 9 days and his breathing was good. During follow up, we had the leg issue checked as well, and they sent him for a ultra sound-also for a ct scan of his lungs as they had some questions about what his x rays at the time we initially went in showed. they think but are not sure that the leg issue may be swollen lymph nodes. We have not gotten test results back on those yet [ct scan or ultra sound]. He was told he could try discontinuing the water pills and see if his breathing is still good without them.
He was off them 2 days but today was noticing a small amount of issues, so took one. Also today, he noticed that he can raise his arm up above his shoulder again. Because of the lymph node issue I have been giving him turmeric tincture and 1000mg of garlic [capsules] a day - hoping the turmeric would help with the inflammation and the garlic because it is a blood purifier.
At the time of this post, he has been coughing up really yellow phlegm today. He wasn't coughing up anything when the pneumonia started or b4 last night. The other thing we have noticed is when he does not take the water pills, his urine is much much darker yellow whereas with them, it is a clearer yellow.
Before he first started the water pills, the urine was a cloudy dark yellow, but when he was off them the 2 days it was just darker not cloudy. I'm not sure if there are several individual issues going on here or if its more of a chain reaction of causes. Can anybody give me their thoughts on which it might be? Or help in any way with possible treatments or avenues to pursue? He turned 60 this year and has a history of letting old physical injuries [many] heal on there own, neither of us have a lot of faith in mainstream medical care even if we could afford it.
Turmeric and Garlic
Posted by Anon (Anon) on 11/26/2019
Hi! I'm not a doctor but i have done a bit of reading. You might consider aluminum (or other toxic metal) poisoning as aluminum is thought to cause swelling. Mustard seed is said to reduce swelling. It happens to contain a bit of selenium which is needed for thyroid function but which also is said to remove toxic metals. If his thyroid is not functioning well such as from iodine deficiency he could be more succeptible to an infection such as pneumonia. You might look at the iodine protocol. Mustard powder is perhaps easiest to take mixed with coconut oil, chilled till somewhat firm, and cut into pill size portions. It can also be mixed with mashed potatoes or coleslaw. Mixed with ginger powder it makes a tolerable tea. Olive leaf and/or goldenseal would probably give him more immediate relief from infection. Echinacea taken long term can boost the body's natural immunity, too. Best wishes.
Multiple Remedies
Posted by Mmsg (Somewhere, Europe) on 09/04/2016
Renee, read up on cayenne for pain.
Multiple Remedies
Posted by Isabel (Tampa, Fl) on 09/04/2016
Use cayenne pepper pills try to get at least 100 hu 3 times a day, that will help your heart and your lungs, good luck.
Multiple Remedies
Posted by Talassis (Stockholm) on 09/04/2016
For pain relief, take 1/2 -1 tsp of cayenne in hot water. You can sweeten with honey.
Multiple Remedies
Posted by Judy W. (Usa) on 09/09/2016
Look into BOSWELLIA SERATTA - cheap. It's anti-inflammatory: arthritis, gut issues, etc.
Colloidal Silver
Posted by Karen (Michigan) on 11/21/2015
How much Colidal Silver do you use?
Colloidal Silver
Posted by Josie (San Antonio Tx) on 05/21/2018 22 posts
Colloidal silver for pneumonia
Can I do Colloidal silver and then do hydrogen peroxide to help my lungs. I have been in the hospital 4 times in the late couple of months. My antibiotic are not helping me anymore. I need to know as soon as posible please some one let me know. I heard you cannot do the hydrogen peroxide while doing the colloidal silver. I have been fighting pneumonia for many years and it is getting worse. HELP.
Water Kefir
Posted by Meeya (Sunnyvale, Ca) on 10/25/2014
I think it is definitely possible.
Kefir grains are also made from yeasts. If you are making it from grains passed down from someone else, there is really no way to know what strains of bacteria, yeasts, etc make up the grains. Even still -- if you were using a starter culture -- bacteria (good or bad), yeasts, and any other molds that may have been present in the liquid do not belong in the lungs.
Lugol's iodine helps with lung infections. Taken internally it has an affinity for mucous membranes and is antimicrobial. You could also get a nebulizer and inhale steam + peroxide. I'm sure there's lots of other info here on this site. I've never had pneumonia so I can't be very helpful on how to treat it. But I do think it could definitely be the cause for your infection.
Water Kefir
Posted by Christine (Tx) on 06/29/2018
How did it eventually go away?
Oil Pulling
Posted by Amarya (Okotoks, Canada) on 09/16/2014
★★★★★
I have actually cured pneumonia in myself with unrefined, pure (quality matters) oil pulling. It took one solid day of this technique to detoxify my body, I could barely get off the couch - so sick.
This is especially beneficial if you have mercury fillings in your teeth (I had 11). Also ice cream has many chemicals added under "natural flavours" like 30 or more, which contribute heavily to sinus infections.
Flu Shot Prevention
Posted by Donna (East Coast) on 09/18/2018
Jackie, can you explain what did you do to boost his immune system and detox their systems?
Colloidal Silver
Posted by Prioris (Fl, Usa) on 10/03/2013
I experimented with MMS some but got headaches. The more I have read about it throughout the last couple years, the more I wouldn't recommend it. The side effects can be serious in people. I would stay away from it or use it with caution if you want to experiment with it. Many testimonials don't mention the damage it has done to some people.
Colloidal Silver
Posted by Dave (Fountain Inn, Sc) on 10/04/2013
To Prioris re MMS:
Story of a Dead Squirrel....
Thanks for your insights. I'm always looking for effective anti microbes but have to approach anything with caution. One of my favorite personal photographs was made in my yard two years ago. A dead squirrel laying oddly on its back, little paws turned up; I gently removed a few fallen leaves close to it to reveal a partially eaten mushroom inches from the deceased. Well, the mushroom may not have been what killed the squirrel but it sure looked like it.
Moral of the story is obvious --- a picture is worth a thousand words---
Dave
Colloidal Silver
Posted by Oscar (Syracuse, New York) on 10/04/2013
Dear Prioria from FL, Thank you for having the courage or whatfor to speak out about this very dangerous MMS stuff. The active ingrediant in MMS is the same as chorine bleach for those people not aware of it. Chlorine bleach will kill or destroy any pathogen known. BUT, it will also kill any living thing which of course includes people.
You may or may not survive this treatment. Many people have died the first time they tried the MMS treatment taken as prescribed. Many others have gotten very sick but managed to survive. And there are those who say it has cured them of things like malaria and for some maybe it did. But this claim that MMS is safe is not true. Of course when someone dies from this treatment it`s advocates blame the person who died. They supposedly mixed it wrong or took too much. But that is how unsafe this MMS stuff is. You can surf the web about this and read testimonials of many people who got very sick using MMS as prescribed. Here is what wikipedia has to say about MMS: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_Mineral_Supplement
Colloidal Silver
Posted by Mike (Denver, Colorado) on 10/04/2013
Prioris: mms and h202 make free radicals that damage both pathogens and tissues. This is the cause of the side effects.
Colloidal Silver
Posted by Biddy (Ireland) on 10/21/2013
Hi Andrea C , Re your mix of Epsom salt and water to be put in nebulizer? What proportions of Epsom salt to water please> How mant mls of CS in Nebulizer? and how many of Epsom salt mix? I think I have Pneumonia at the moment. I've had it twice befor in my life and recgnise the feeling in my lungs and in my body. Also want to be sure that neither CS or Epsom Salt mix will set my heart racing? I get Atrial Fibrillation and really don't want to get that going at the moment. I am taking An Antibiotic Amoxacillin 500mgs x 3 times a day and also some prednisolone 40mgs a day just for 5 days on day 4 now but lungs are still not great. and I'm exhausted. I have colloidal silver and have been taking it orally. and I have some epsome salts also. Really want to give it a go! Very excited. Want to avoid stronger Anti Bs and more Steriods if possible. Thank you. Biddy in Ireland
Colloidal Silver
Posted by Steve (Beaverton, Oregon) on 04/06/2015
Hi there!
I can't seem to find the original post on MMS... but I'm VERY interested in what you think. I've been doing a HEAVY MMS protocol for the past month. I seem to tolerate MMS very well... I'm doing 32 drops a day, and have never experienced any bad effects. I also don't seem to be getting much better.
I'm told it needs to be consumed until your "cured"... which might be years. Do you trust MMS? The reviews are so mixed... I wonder what you (and others) think.
Thanks! Steve
Colloidal Silver
Posted by Cristi (Sydney) on 06/09/2015
Re MMS...
I've tried it and it didn't work. Made me feel a little sick. Later I found out that its a bit toxic to those like me that have thyroid issues. But yet on my friends that don't have thyroid problems it worked very well.
Colloidal Silver
Posted by Karen (Michigan) on 09/21/2015
What does MMS do for teeth and gums if I may ask? Thanks!
Colloidal Silver
Posted by Yvette (Fl) on 01/04/2016
Will this also apply to walking pneumonia?
Colloidal Silver
Posted by Dave (Fountain Inn, Sc) on 01/04/2016
To Yvette:
Using colloidal silver for bronchial or lungs related infection, I use a "steamer-inhaler" and breathe in deeply for five minutes three times daily. I've fought off many bronchial infections although I have never been diagnosed with pneumonia. But if I had been, I'd certainly do the same thing.
For my bronchial infections, they are usually gone in a week.
Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Laura (West Sacramento, Ca) on 05/25/2013
I would like to know the directions/solution/dosage for using hydrogen peroxide to treat cough and/or pneumonia or bronchitis. I've heard referce to both sprays and inhalers. I see all of this blogging, but not the real stuff. How do I get there? Thn Q!
Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Hollyv (Greenville, Sc) on 08/29/2013
I'm pretty sure I've got a spot of pneumonia, as I did have it a few years ago for the first time. So, I'm reading here what to do, and I've got a list going: garlic, H202, vitamin c, probiotics, sea salt, etc. Because I am a huge believer in this website (tried and true). BUT, should I go for doing ALL of these things at once? Or will that overwhelm my body? Maybe each of them in small doses? Not sure which one I need? Or if all will be great??
Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Holly (Greenville, Sc) on 11/16/2017
Dave from Fountain Inn:
Wow. So here I sit reading earthclinic, thinking I have have pneumonia. I don't even remember if I had it in 2013. I don't remember posting this back then, and I believe I'm seeing your response for the first time! If you're still out there, I'd love to come by and get some colloidal silver! I am trying the vinegar and h202 this evening, and had planned to go to the ER in the morning if I still feel this in my chest.
Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Julie (Greenville, Sc) on 12/27/2017
I was wondering if a colloidal silver steam would work if I don't have a nebulizer handy? If anyone has this info, please advise, thank you!
Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Cindy (Oklahoma) on 10/09/2021 1 posts
Art
How much and what strength of CS to use in a cold vapor ultrasonic humidifier?
Hydrogen Peroxide
Posted by Francisca (Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France) on 08/31/2011
To Mmsg, I tried to breath the water with HP but it didn't work, I couldn't get anything up my nose. After that I breathed a bit I put into the palm of my hand and it did indeed calm my sinuses just it burned a bit, maybe I had used too much HP. No idea how you do it through your mouth though....
Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Eunice (Sherwood Park, Canada, Alberta) on 11/21/2008
★☆☆☆☆
Remedy for Pneumonia: Hi we have tried ACV for 2 weeks now but it is still not going away. Can you suggest any other natural remedies that work aside from hydrogen peroxide?
Flu Shot Prevention
Posted by Ken (London, Uk) on 02/15/2013
Flu shots can indeed be called natural remedies (except for the fillers, perhaps, but they put those in supplements too).
I know many elderly people with heart and lung disease whose immune systems simply cannot take the onslaught of the flu and pneumonia. Flu shots are lifesavers for many of an advancing age.
Flu Shot Prevention
Posted by Cindy (Illinois, USA) on 03/28/2023 523 posts
Money talks. They extracted the science from medicine and filled it with money so people would listen and do as their drug dealers tell them. It's patent medicine. Straight from the days the oil dude discovered he could make far more money selling petroleum an ounce at a time - as tonics and medicine. Once the money started rolling in, the politicians were bought and actual schools of medicine were shut down. Easy peasy.
People listen to money because they want money and actual doctoring by those who've bothered to learn of it but don't drive Mercedes nor indulge their kids with expensive, social-climbing kit aren't allowed to doctor anymore.
People are thrown under the bus to feed egos all the time. It appears to be man's favorite pastime and there's a cost to his sociopolitical, ego-maniacal fetishes.
Hydrogen Peroxide Inhalation Method
Posted by Peggy (Millington, TN) on 10/27/2008
I am writing about the inhalation therapy with Hydrogen Peroxide posted in Jan of 08. I am dealing with the same problem can you tell me the protocol you followed, The same measurements? Thank you so much for sharing.
Hydrogen Peroxide Inhalation Method
Posted by Angela2282 (East Palatka, Fl) on 02/07/2010
I am having the same problem. Persistent cough & wheezing. Would like to know how to do this and how much and how often. Been on antibiotics for 1 week along with Primatene (inhaler), Robatussin, and cough drops. No signs of getting better, actually getting worse. Please someone help, this is miserable.
