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Supplements
Posted by Ella (London) on 02/06/2024
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A phlebotomist recently exclaimed: 'My goodness! Are you taking blood-thinning medication?', to which I replied, 'No', but that I was taking 'natural blood thinners' instead. She looked at me with a confused stare. This is the NHS and conventional medicine for you. To protect against ischemic stroke I've incorporated into my daily life - One cup of green tea with a sprinkle of turmeric and black pepper Ginger incorporated into cooking Cinnamon incorporated into cooking Turmeric powder incorporated into cooking (large amounts aren't necessary) Nattokinase Dark chocolate (at least 70%, preferably 85%). At least a few pieces daily Vitamin K2 Raw garlic. A few cloves, peeled and chopped into tablet-sized pieces taken with water before a meal Stretching and being mindful of posture is important too. Emotional stress can manifest as reduced blood flow to the brain, so neck massage and exercise are important. I try to lay down flat on my bed every now and then without a pillow. Some people have their heads slouched forwards - this is a recipe for disaster. A final note - oral health is important. Gum disease can stiffen artery walls. Lemongrass essential oil works for gum disease (see scientific literature). Nature has the answer already but big pharma doesn't want you to know.
Magnesium Oil
Posted by Art (California ) on 01/24/2018 2932 posts
Hi M to M,
My friend is so happy, she has been calling her friends to share her good news with them!
I'll check in with her after awhile to see how it goes and then update here if there is anything to add. I like stories with happy endings!
Art
Ted's Remedies
Posted by Ted (Bangkok) on 11/08/2009
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Since I don't receive any questions from earthclinic on strokes, I have decided to make a brief summary on this condition, in case someone is interested.
This is the remedy for a stroke victim, where there is a blood clot in the brain and was unable to improve for at least half the year. The medication I have looked into didn't make sense. The iron supplements had to be discontinued, this causes the blood clot. The medication that dissolves blood clot didn't make sense since if the iron were discontinued, the anti blood clot medication doesn't need it either. Besides, my approach to increasing iron has never been to take iron anyway. A daily 2000 mg dose of piracetam were counter-productive, since it's taken everyday, that causes a cascade of neurodegeneration, when there is not temporary discontinuance of the medicine.
It was changed from taken everyday, to taken once every two to three days. This the body can handle. The dinner was discontinued, the objective was to get three bowel movements a day.
Initially the bowel movement was once every ten days. When I first had a glimpse, the bowel movement appears to be about once every three days to once a day, which was unacceptable. The stroke was bought on by daily meals of steak which leads to constipation and the blood became toxic, leading to clotting, which leads to stroke. Hence steak was discontinued, only salads are eaten for dinner.
DETAILS OF TREATMENT
Stroke victim: entire half of the body is paralyzed, partial feeling only in the right foot. The rest no feeling. Cannot talk, not possible to use right part of body.
In the first day of remedy, feeling restored for the entire leg, on the third day was able to take bath, unassisted, On the second week, is regularly talking to his son over the cellular and able to go on exercise bicycle by herself. Although not a perfect remedy, always need improvement. This is just only my archive and the woman's doing fine since last reported about a week ago.
Constipation, Blood clot, low rate of healing, digestive enzyme deficiency, anemic, low stomach acid, recovery slow, wounds don't heal, brain damage from stroke, blood clot, flatulence, possible electrolyte imbalance, in particular potassium, metabolic acidosis, inability to communicate.
Needs three month's supply of:
1. Digestive enzyme
2. tetra EDTA
3. Magnesium Chloride
4. Potassium Citrate
5. Sodium Citrate
6. Baking soda
7. Potassium Carbonate
8. Humic acid to help digestion
9. White tea to lower blood sugar
10. Granulated Lecithin
11. Chlorophyll Drops
12. Hydergine
13. Piracetam (Nootropil)
14. Zeolite Azomite
15. Iodine and potassium iodide
16. Vitamin C
17. DMSO
18. B50 Bottle
19. Amino acid
20. Vitamin C
21. HCl
22. Borax,
23. Glycine
I expected the recovery time to be three months, apparently it went much faster than expected, after only 2 or 3 weeks.
The recovery is about 80-90% back to normalcy.
My only concern is the supplements may need to be discontinued or reduced much faster then expected.
Ted
January 1, 2010
As for the update for the stroke victim, she continues to improve. However, it is my feeling that women generally recover from strokes faster then men because women have higher progesterone levels.
Hence in a stroke victim, I have modified the remedy to use progesterone cream apply near the neck area, on the side of the neck, as this area has the least fat that reduces absorption. This allows people, and especially men, to recover from strokes faster. In fact a progesterone that is very low in men may also be what's causing the stroke and prostate enlargement.
Men generally need a lot less progesterone than women, but they still need it.
The dose for a progesterone cream applied is around 1/8 teaspoon once a day for women for 4 days out of a week. For men the dose maybe 1/2 of that to be applied for only 2-3 days to out of a week, at only 1/16 teaspoon. This allows the brain to recover from stroke faster and repair the damaged myelin sheath also.
I am also expected to attend a wedding of the stroke victim (who is a mother to the son who's getting married) this February in Hong Kong.. Obviously she's strong enough to go and her speech has returned (after the paralyzing stroke she couldn't speak) and now she regularly calls her son by cellular phone.
Source: https://ted.earthclinic.com/cures/stroke3.html
Raw Food Diet
Posted by Sharon (Soldotna, Alaska) on 03/07/2008
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I am obese not from overeating, but due to stressors that I did not handle well and that caused a major stroke a year ago. Since then, I have made a major change in my diet even though I had eaten very well before without white flours, sugars and the other problem foods for many years. Now I am eating raw vegan foods and have not only finally dropped almost 40 pounds but my blood sugar levels are down to the mid-90s. I credit eating a raw food lifestyle with all this! My thyroid numbers are also in the more normal range! Lots of good changes that I believe eating a raw food lifestyle made happen.
Rosemary Leaf
Posted by Rob (Kentucky) on 05/04/2024
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Rosemary Leaf – After a stroke in Arabic countries, to restore a person's speech by eating rosemary leaves are pounded and mixed with sugar or flour and made into a biscuit eaten daily.
Etanercept
Posted by Enzo (Miami) on 06/07/2020 4 posts
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NEW BREAKTHROUGH TREATMENT.
I have some great news to share for anyone who has suffered a stroke or knows someone who's suffered a stroke. A drug called ETANERCEPT. Dr Tobernic (not sure of the spelling) at the Institute Of Neurological Recovery, Boca Raton, Florida. Tel; 561-353-9707 Has discovered that Etanercept when injected at the back of the neck can reverse ailments caused by stroke. The drug blocks build up in the brain (TMF). Once the drug is injected, it takes a few minutes to work and an improvement in congnition, motor function and pain rapidly returns to normal. This drug is originally intended for the treatment of chronic arthritis. The treatment without health insurance is around $6,000 plus. (I made the call) Also, this treatment has great effects on Alzheimer's patients.
Here is the link with video of the process and results. www.strokebreakthrough.com
I hope this will help many people who have suffered a stroke. They do say that 1 in 5 patients do not respond to treatment.
Arnica
Posted by Chris F. (Usa) on 05/09/2017
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Also, using Arnica Montana 30c right away as long as the person is conscious and blood has stopped flowing if blood is present. Arnica Montana is one's first defense against swelling, bruising, bumps from accidents. It is important to still get to an emergency room fast! Directions are on the little cylinder container. Don't touch the pills with your hands as the oils in your fingers may cause the remedy not to work well. Arnica helps to heal faster. I gave to a friend who had a ladder accident. He said the doctor thought he healed way faster than expected and the friend noticed the difference of faster healing too. I keep it in my purse always.
Crawling Therapy
Posted by Kathy (Usa) on 03/04/2016
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For Ted,
One of the best things that helps a baby's brain to develop is crawling on the floor. The cross over action from left-right, right-left of the arms and legs, helps the brain develop.
This concept can also be used when an adult has a brain injury. Someone can help the patient by gently touching the left arm of the patient to the right arm of the patient, gently return the left arm to the left side and then assist the right arm of the patient to touch the patient's left arm. This can also be gently done to the legs in the same fashion. Later on, if possible, allow the patient to watch these exercises on himself by having someone hold a mirror.
When the patient is stronger, learning to crawl on a floor, with assistance of a health care professional, can be added to the patient's therapy. The patient must be supervised at all times during therapy to prevent injury.
Prevention
Posted by Deb (Melbourne , Australia) on 12/30/2010
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Anne, cayenne is meant to be good for the prevention of stroke. It helps with blood flow in the body (and the brain) and is good for the arteries. It would be well worth you researching it. It is full of nutrients and high in Vitamin C as well. I buy organic cayenne from the health food store. There are some good books on cayenne available. Cheers Deb
Stroke Signs
Posted by Dave (Victoria, BC Canada) on 10/05/2008
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Please add this to your site, it is very important about the fourth sign of a stroke.
S.T.R.S.
New Sign of a Stroke -------- Stick out Your Tongue
NOTE: Another 'sign' of a stroke is this: Ask the person to 'stick' out his tongue.. If the tongue is 'crooked', if it goes to one side or the other , that is also an indication of a stroke.
Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Mich (Lusaka, Zambia) on 11/27/2014
Can apple cider vinegar be used for stroke cure?
Hi I had a stroke at the age of 18 & still have it. The only medication I was given at the hospital after having it is quarter of an aspirin tablet & started physiotherapy later. I still can't use my left hand & leg up to now, bt I can walk with difficulty. Can my condition be reversed especially that I've had it for 11 years now. Am now 29 years old. Thank you!
Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Mama To Many (Tennessee) on 11/27/2014
Dear Mich,
It seems like you have little to lose and much to gain by trying Apple Cider Vinegar.
You say you can walk with difficulty. Do you get physical therapy now? It seems that the more you exercise your muscles the stronger they will be.
I am also wondering about using some thing like peppermint essential oil, massaged into muscles. Peppermint oil is stimulated and healing and so is massage. If you decide to try it, I would use a ratio of 1 teaspoon Peppermint Essential Oil in 1/4 cup extra virgin coconut oil massaged into affected muscles once or twice a day.
I would also look in to cayenne pepper taken internally. Even just sprinkling some on your food each day would be good.
I hope you will find something that will help you to improve. Let us know how it goes for you.
~Mama to Many~
Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Kennywally (Midwest) on 11/27/2015 46 posts
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Patricia, forgive me, this is a late response to your question about your husband and ACV dosages. Dosage wise, whatever he can tolerate. At least once in AM and once before bedtime, 1T in 4 or more ounces of water, you don't want it too weak or strong/sour. And pay attention to how the person being administered the ACV feels! Other folks may have some other observances they may want to share here too!
DMSO
Posted by Katzie (Cancun, México ) on 12/17/2024
I read, about 5 yrs ago, but forget which article, but it said to apply the dmso straight onto the head, as close to when the stroke occurred or even while it was occurring. This mitigated or even reversed the damage-with miraculous outcomes. Internally would work, too, but straight onto the head would negate any tummy issues. Please note that if you do take dmso internally, it is absorbed before you even finish swallowing, which is a weird sensation.
Green Smoothies
Posted by Rob B. (Canada) on 10/12/2019
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Green smoothie for stroke patients.
My friend in his 80s had a severe stroke which put him in ICU for more than 4 months. Amazingly he pulled out of it, (multiple infections, organ failure etc.) Out of ICU, finally able to take outside food, I started making him this basic green smoothie.
With paralysis on his right side, arm & leg he needs to be in a wheelchair. The general view by the Drs.is that the progress you make after 6 months is generally what you're stuck with... However he continues to surprise the the therapist & dr's, so much so that on his last visit a group of therapists and doctors formed around him, amazed at his results. They rarely if at all see this sort of improvement in that age group.
He has a great positive will, which is most likely the main factor, however I like to think (no science here) that my smoothies helped. Reading that Apigenin, abundant in Parsley, is good for brain, neuron connections it became one of the main ingredients. A simple recipe, aided in flavor (very important) with a pack of Vega Sport protein powder.. no endorsement, just really like the flavor and keeping the drink vegetarian. The other two greens, Dandelion & Watercress, are known to be the most nutritionally dense greens.. so very simply...
Smoothie Recipe
2 cups water
1 bunch dandelions. (organic preferred)
1 bunch watercress (hard to get organic, but soak in vinegar for few minutes, rinse)
1 bunch of parsley (organic preferred)
A packet of this Vega Sports Protein powder..Vanilla. (google search)
A large dollop (2 tbsp) of Tahini..
Cinnamon... and a banana perhaps for extra flavor.. could even throw in some blueberries.
I blended it all up in my Blendtec blender.. about a minute.. Voila. The protein powder is necessary to make it palatable.. otherwise not great tasting. He loved them and especially good at the start when his swallowing reflex was poor.
A link: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/12/151210144912.htm
Chinese Needle Method
Posted by Scott (USA) on 06/29/2008
★☆☆☆☆WARNING!
I would really like to give you some background information on strokes. Briefly, there are two basic types. One is obstruction leading to lack of oxygen to brain nerve tissue like a blood clot blocking flow. The other is physical compression of nerve tissue from any source (tumor, trauma, expanding blood vessel, or leaking blood vessel). Actually each of these has varying manifestations and roughly can be very short lived (transient ischemic attack), of moderate duration (reversible ischemic neurologic disorder), or full blown stroke. Anyway, the bottom line is how long is the nerve tissue compromised? If short time, you will get total recovery. Moderate amount usually the same. But there if a critical period of time passes without cellular assistance, permanent damage occurs. Honestly, accurate diagnosis of the cause is so important to determining exactly what is the best way to save the brain. Minutes count. I can only guess the strokes described in this article were TIAs or RINDs. They do have the potential for quick reverse.....either spontaneously or assisted by this acupuncture technique. But if your loved one has the third type and you delay hospital transfer, you may be sealing their fate for permanent neurological damage. There is so much more to say, but I wanted to give you additional insight in case you are faced with this event in a loved one and don't know what to do...
Magnesium Oil
Posted by Jen (Australia) on 01/24/2018
What a good friend you are :)
I also have/ had severe nerve pain through a lot of my body. After a couple of years of western medical pain docs, I realised that all they do is try to cover up the pain with toxic life long meds, or a nerve block that made it worse. So I sacked them, and being a medical researcher I researched! By research, opiates are actually the best thing for nerve pain...
The best things have been Mg Oil, and moreso DMSO (I can't believe this is so little known, thanks to the FDA suppressing it for decades - see youtube Dr Stanley Jacobs DMSO 60 minutes). You do need to research how to use and buy quality stuff, probably in glass bottles only. I take it orally and topically, I would IV it if I could, but Australia has sold out to FDA/ BigPharma and now you can't even get DMSO without a script (and since docs don't know about it or have sold out to BigPharma, that can be difficult). It can take many months for overall effect, although some it helps straight away. I took oral MSM initially (the other form of DMSO), but no help after one year for nerve pain, but it does help some people. Mixing DMSO and Mg Oil together would be interesting although could irritate skin without necessary dilution, but it might help improve penetration in the body. I found also need to keep up sunshine and B12, walking in the sun if I could. My pain is now about 3/4 reduced after 18 months (the docs told me it would never go away or reduce). I recently read that when most people start supplementing Mg Oil they don't take enough, need to start on at least 1 oz per day all over body. Best of luck!
Magnesium
Posted by Victoria B. (Sorrento, La) on 02/10/2016
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Hi there, magnesium will make your bowels move. Some people can only take one magnesium pill. I have to take two. I have constipation if I do not take it. You need to look up the importance of magnesium in the body. Very important supliment. Did you know that when a person is having a stroke. If the dr will give the patient a magnesium drip all symptoms will go away. I am living proof of this.
Ted's Remedies
Posted by Prioris (Fl, Usa) on 11/03/2013
I'd wish Ted would just drive a stake through the entire cholesterol issue and put the issue to rest as it regards heart disease. Cholesterol is an irrelevant problem but still people want to find a solution for it.
Prevention
Posted by Bev (Long Beach, Ca Usa) on 08/21/2011
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TT. I read somewhere on this site that B6 was excellent for preventing strokes.
Chinese Needle Method
Posted by Mamarita (Michigan) on 01/26/2015
For the blood letting cure - can this be done several years after a patient suffered a stroke? Will it still help in any way or is it too late? I wish I knew about this sooner - my Dad has had 2 strokes (hemorrhagic, 1 in 1997and 1 in 2006)...please advise.
Coconut Oil
Posted by Lee (Greensboro, NC) on 01/21/2007
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My health was declining and substantial weight gain ( untreated border Hypothyroid 1991) and cluminated in stroke early 2006 at age 54, week in hospital at time of stroke my BP was 260/160, cholesterol 330, and high homocysteine. I started coconut oil this fall, mostly to increase energy but hoping it would help my sluggish metabolism to aid weight loss which has been erratic. I have had SAD each winter and this winter no sign of it, my energy is up but no significant weight loss. I'm on 4 meds so can't be sure the oil lowered cholesterol but it dropped another 92 pts since April testing to 101 total. My research showed that i must keep my total under 150 in order to start reversing the blockage I have in subclavian artery. My Cardiologist is amazed that I'm not dizzy or fainting b/c of my blockage being severe he said. I'm trying to ward off a stent and angioplasty. I must reduce my weight by 40 lbs before Dr will allow weaning off Plavix, Zocor, Benicar HCT and FLTX. I was started on 40 mg Benicar HCT the DAY BEFORE I stroked my dr allow me to reduce dosage if my BP is below 100, I have a BP cuff at home. Using it daily I have been able to cut back the Benicar to 1/4 Tablet. I want off all these pills within another year. I do believe I have improved my health with diet changes, exercise and reducing stress but as I said, dr's want to SEE proof of my changes via WEIGHT loss
Unruptured Brain Aneurysm Remedies
Posted by Lizzy Duck (Smithville TN ) on 03/23/2020
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Colloidal Copper! And Vitamin C with Acerola powder. You take these 5 days per week. 5-6 weeks to strengthen and repair!
Ted's Remedies
Posted by Litsa (Tarpon Springs Florida) on 11/02/2013
My mother suffered a minor stroke a week ago and even though she was able to move her left arm and leg at the time she became progressively worse. I would appreciate a protocol inspired by Ted's work. She is 92 and the only other issue is sciatica in the other leg. Please help. Thank you. Litsa
Prevention
Posted by Andoy (Boise, Id) on 11/12/2011
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I agree with Bev. Dr. Ellis, East Texas, pioneered B-6 supplement succesfully about 50 years ago. 1 tablet a day...... Google him.
Mercury Poisoning and Strokes
Posted by Louisa (Texas) on 05/12/2021
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A family relative died of a stroke. His wife didn't believe the stroke and had an autopsy. It came back that he died from his mouth full of mercury fillings. I did research and had my fillings taken out.
Mercury Poisoning and Strokes
Posted by Marsh (Colorado) on 01/02/2022
I had all mine out after some health episodes. My dentist thought I was nuts, saying there's more mercury in a can of tuna fish. They don't want you touching mercury in the school lab, but they fill your mouth with it???
Green Smoothies
Posted by Rob (Toronto) on 01/13/2020
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I now add a pinch of Mustard Seed Powder and some Arugula. Mustard Seed powder contains Myrosinase and enzyme to help convert glucoraphanin to sulforaphane. Sulforaphane is showing to have a host of impressive benefits for humans. (found mostly in cruciferous veggies) google it.
Magnesium Oil
Posted by Eva (Nv) on 01/24/2018 22 posts
Oh thank Heaven!, I have 9 vertabraes, all degenerated and inoperable plus since having a heart attack in 2014 I cannot have any general anesthetics again, Scoliosis. I'm in pain 24/7.
Would you please send me the exact amount in ounces or teaspoons on the final dosage you made for your friend. I've not used Mag nor have I heard of the oil before. I also have hypertension so can't tolerate epidurals either. I', m 5 Ft tall, 108 lbs, 90 yrs old if that helps in the dosage. I can imagine how your friend is praising and blessing you for your help. How wonderful!
Magnesium Oil
Posted by Art (California ) on 02/01/2018 2932 posts
In reply to Jb (Atlanta, Ga),
Yes, xylitol is definitely bad for dogs, so if there is a chance that your dog might lick it off of your body, leave it out. The xylitol was only there to help moisturize the skin along with the glycerin because they have synergy together and together they have anti inflammatory properties. The glycerin will have moisturizing qualities by itself.
I am not certain that long term application of mag oil will be drying to the skin, it was only a precautionary measure and I would remain more concerned about trying to alleviate post-stroke nerve related pain.I can always use almost any lotion to do the same and not have to be concerned about whether my dog might lick it off of me.
Art
Copper or Nattokinase
Posted by Norma (NYC) on 01/30/2024
Find an acupuncturist specialising in stroke recovery. It is a sub specialty so to speak, they take an additional training. The window of opportunity after stroke is 3 months. Good luck.
Prevention
Posted by Anne (Chicago, Il, Usa) on 12/31/2010
Thank you, Deb! I really appreciate your feedback. I have had arrythmia issues over the past year, and have read other posts regarding cayenne and the heart.. I will definitely look into it.. Again, thanks! Anne
Eye Issues
Posted by Sandra C. (Smyrna, Georgia) on 11/15/2008
I had a mini stroke in my right eye, October 25. Went to an opthamologist, then a retina specialist. He Took pix of my right eye and you could see the dark area like a thin river branching, suppose an artery. I had a cardiac echo and a vascular doppler, both came back acceptable. My next thing in an MRI on Dec. 10th. My sight in my right eye is like a dark stormy cloud, always there, and when i look at something else, it is there. I should not be driving at all. My son, his wife and my 14 month old granddaughter live 400 miles away. I pray God will restore my eyesite. I try to rescue and help abused dogs, and it is very hard to do that at this time. Has anyone else had this, and did your eyesight comback. I am 58 years old. Please keep me in your prayers. God Bless Us All.
Eye Issues
Posted by Isac (Boca Raton, Florida) on 11/26/2008
Once you had a mini stroke, you may want to consult with retina specialist who will administer a Avastin injection into the white part of your eye. It sounds actually much more terrible than it really is. Good luck!
Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Karen (Mi) on 01/23/2016
I know you were joking, but DO NOT pour and leave vinegar on your head or hair!!!! It will destroy it and you will be bald. Have you not soaked a showerhead and wake to find all the hard scum removed? This will remove and dissolve your hair! My sister knows of someone who did this.
Rosemary Leaf
Posted by mmsg (somewhere, europe ) on 03/19/2025
Hi HE, rosemary leaf tea should work well.
Red Pine Cone Remedy from Russia
Posted by Khaled (Saudi Arabia ) on 10/17/2019
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Hello, I am 37 got a stroke and carotid artery stenosis on both sides, end of october 2918, R +80% , L 15-49 %, the left developed in the last 5 months. I am on 100 mg aspirin. supplementing with L-arginine, l citrulline lately, and 60 ml pomegranate juice. I dont want to do the catheterization and stent.. Is there a category on this page about carotid stenosis or atherosclerosis? I want to try something called tincture of red pine cones on vodka, it's a Russian folk remedy for stroke and heart disease etc. Best, khaled from saudi
Magnesium Oil
Posted by Mama To Many (Tennessee) on 01/24/2018
Wow, Art, this is wonderful. Thanks for taking time to share the details and this very happy story.
~Mama to Many~
Magnesium Oil
Posted by Trevor (Australia) on 04/03/2018
Hi Art,
Can you provide quantities of msm, mag oil, glycerin, witch hazel and xylitol? Many thanks
Raw Potato
Posted by Learner (EarthSchool) on 03/20/2023
Potatoes have a net alkalizing effect on the body from what I have read.
Colloidal Copper, Zinc, Butcher's Broom
Posted by C. (Usa) on 10/27/2016
Mary,
Could you please give more specific instruccions on how to take the cooper and zinc and the butchers broom (is this in tincture form?), how often and how much?
Thank you very much.
Colloidal Copper, Zinc, Butcher's Broom
Posted by Teresa (Chandler, Az) on 10/29/2016
AMEN!! So happy for you Mary, I pray you age well with blessings of health and happiness: )
Copper or Nattokinase
Posted by MONIQUE (LOUISIANA) on 01/29/2024
Hi, I know this thread is old but I'll give it a try anyway. How did your friend recover from 5 strokes in 1 month. Interested in finding out what was used.
