Also I was thinking of starting back on ACV (for my food allergies) once my hypothyroid is under control. I plan to take it only on weekends, this time for sure at least 4 hours after I have taken my thyroid medication. I also intend to continue 1 tbsp coconut oil for my hypothyroid. I will be sipping ACV throughout the day, so is it ok to take coconut oil while on ACV? Is there any particular time I should take coconut oil while on ACV during the weekends? I don't want to get my body into any kind of trouble by consuming both at wrong times.
I also read that coconut oil acts as antihistamine. Could that help me with my food allergies so I wont need to take ACV? All this when I am already allergic to coconut, but I have to do what I have to do to deal with my hypothyroid.
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I was diagnosed with low iron anemia but pressed for more test because I was exhausted, had heart palpitations, brainfog, gas, bloating, acid reflux, poor digestion, dry skin, hair loss, itchy skin, cold, depression fybrocystic breasts etc...
I was tested using Cyrexlabs array 3 and 4 found out I was allergic to wheat, coffee, teft, tapioca, buckwheat, rye, and many other alternatives for gluten free diets:( I had the 24 hour iodine load test and I came back at 65% where you should be at 90% or more. My doctor had me take my temp for seven days in the morning. That came back as average of 97.3 so that was low. I also was low on vitamin D3.
So after all my testing I stopped eating grains which helped with all symptoms but the things that helped the most was vitamin D3 at 5,000 IU a day taken with multi vitamin and mineral need calcium and vitamin k with D3. I also started taking Idorol and naturethroid. My iron consuption is 85 mg elemental iron 2x a day using a product called hemaplex. I take that with orange juice. Every single thing has improved.
The only problem I have now is hormonal imbalnces but I am hoping my supplement will help that. Iodine improved my fybrosytic breast and I felt pain near my left armpit after a few weeks of being on it then the pain went away and the tenderness I had before starting Iodoral was gone. So in short get your Iron (complete CBC W/diff), D3 and iodine tested!
Never take iron without first being tested. hope this helps someone! I am going to try the coconut oil today:)
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ONE LARGE MUG
2 BAGS OF LIPTON CARMEL TRUFFLE TEA
ONE TBSP EVCO [Extra Virgin Coconut Oil]
ONE TBPS BLACK STRAP MOLASSES
ONE HALF TO ONE TBSP HONEY
POUR BOILING WATER OVER THE INGREDIENTS IN MUG AND STIR GENTLY WHILE STEEPING TO MELT THE COCONUT OIL.
I could not stand the taste of the molasses, however it is so yummy in this tea. Hope you like it. I have noticed since the evco and acv that like most everyone else, my ENERGY has soared, skin soft, body temp up, hair and nails gowing, dry seriously cracking heels softer and healing (using oil dirrectly) no more claritin, sleeping better, brighter outlook. This is only my seventh day. At first I seemed to gain a little weight, but just today I noticed the scale is down 1 pound. I am keeping at it and will keep you posted.
This is my story: I was born and was a very sick child, going to the doctor all the time. They discovered half of my thyroid gland was growing into a cyst so half of the gland was removed during surgery. I started taking Synthroid and immediately my health improved and my development accelerated and I was able to grow up into a normal human being with perfect health.
I just really want to know if there are any alternatives to this generic brand of Synthroid that I take.
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I have been doing a ton of research this weekend and will be starting supplements and changing eating habits. I have been reading about bromine in the foods we eat, primarily breads, pastas, pizza dough, etc. This is exactly what I eat all the time. Bromine (or was it Bromide, I don't remember exactly) interferes with iodine. So in addition to eliminating these foods and sugar (oy, going to be hard) I am going to get a kelp supplement (iodine), Vitamin A, Omega-3. I have already been using Vitamin C and B-complex.
I am current day 6 off my levo and actually feeling a great deal of energy. I read somewhere that having these hormone replacements dumbs down your real hormone, thyroid...into atrophy. Does anyone have any information/research on this? I haven't been on thyroid meds quite 5 years yet and even then have been on levo, then armour for 2.5 years, and back on to levo. i wish i could have my armour back though...but maybe not if it is going to make my thyroid atrophy.
Also, does anyone know how to start the "healing" process for your adrenals? Since I am more prone to the thyroid issue due to genetics, I think I really pressed my luck stressing in college a few years ago. But I really do believe my cells can heal.
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I have been hypothyroid for nearly 15 years now and have been on Eltroxin. In May 2009, I read about coconut oil and started with 1 tbsp (proper measuring tbsp) and increased it to 3 tbsps a day. I too had diarrea in the beginning and noticed that I get it if I had the EVCO too close to my meals. I then started giving a gap of 20-30 minutes before or after food and that problem was solved.
I checked my thyroid in Oct 2009 and my medication was reduced fom 100 mcg to 75 mcg as the the thyroid had gotten better. I checked my thyroid again after 6 weeks but there was no further improvement and my dosage remained at 75 mcg. I skipped the EVCO when I went away for a week during Christmas vacation.
From the past 3 weeks I have been feeling heavier and have put on a big of weight, though I have not changed my eating habits. This makes me wonder if my thyroid has gone bad and if I need to go back on 100 mcg of Eltroxin. I have stopped the EVCO for the last couple of days but might just have 1-2 tbsp a day as that does give me the energy.
I wonder if all what is said about EVCO curing hypothyroid is actually a myth as, although it helped me in the beginning to reduce the medication, it didn't help any further even when I continued to take 3 tbsp every day.
I would be doing the blood test again tomorrow for my hypothyroid and might have to go backt o 100 mcg.
What has been your experience with EVCO?
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Can you please elaborate on Kelp. What is it and how and how often do you take it. Do you not take any medication for thyroid?
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The medication you mention, 2% Cytomel or 1 grain of Armour - are they available in regular pharmacies? I am in the Cayman Islands and not sure if we have compounding pharmacy here.
EC: Your message was not published in full, per your request. Sorry, no email address was posted on EC, so unable to forward to Susan.
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I take coconut oil in the morning with my tea at breakfast. I take approximately 1 tablespoon, it's hard to be exact because the coconut oil is solid most of the year as it isn't warm enough here, so I likely take a bit over the 1 tablespoon. I was taking more but it started to bother my stomache. It might have helped to spread the coconut oil through the day (maybe a tablespoon at breakfast, lunch and dinner) but I don't like the taste or texture, so would try to get it over with.
Also it seems by reading other post, that you should work your way up a tablespoon at a time.
I have not had any side effects except the upset stomache.
I think the last time I had my blood tested, I was taking the ACV in the morning, to close to the Synthyroid, affecting the absorbtion and the doctor uped my medication. I was not to happy.
I have noticed my temperature has gone up in the last month or so. I hope this means things are getting better.
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Could you tell me how much of the Lugol's you take and what % it is? I want to get off of levo. My hair is falling out, weight gain, and I could sleep forever. Did you go to a naturopath after being on meds?
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I also have hypothyroidism (which I believe came on after the birth of my second child. - postpartum hypothyroidism) Anyway, after a few years of being on synthroid I just felt terrible. Like you I felt the "brain fog", I experienced depression, loss of hair, fatigue, cold hands and feet, etc... I had no "zest" for life for lack of a better term so I went to see a naturapath. She said that I have to start taking desiccated thyroid (Armour in the states). After about 3 appointments with my endocrinologist I finally convinced him to put me on it. (He did not want to have anything to do with it) I felt a HUGE difference in the way I felt (also with my libido). However, due to the ignorance of my doctor with this medication I stupidly agreed to go back on synthroid. Becasue he didn't know how to control my t4 t3 levels with natural thyroid he was basically saying he couldn't continue with it. Now that I've been on the synthetic medication I have never slept so much in my life, no sex drive, no "zest" for life, depression worsened (already on meds for depression for about 6 years now).
The BEST thing you can do for yourself is get on Armour. It is so hard to get doctors in Canada to prescribe this medication because no one is willing to learn about it. It has been used to treat thyroid issues since the 1800's. My doctor (like so many others out there) says "It's not reliable. The amount of T3 and T4 in it are not regular even amounts". Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Believe it or not, they have improved on this drug since the 1800's. It seems to be much more available in the states. I've been trying to order it over the internet. It's a shame naturapaths can't write rx's. I may have to travel 5 hours to Toronto, Ontario to see a doctor that will prescribe desiccated thyroid for me.
Please try this medication. If you don't see any changes after a reasonable amount of time (3 months) you can always go back on the synthetic hormone. If you decide to try it - please email me and let me know how you did! Thanks for listening,
Barb
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I am so glad I stumbled upon your post. I am a regular visitor at EC since last 5 months. I have hypothyroid, but somehow I didn't get to check on that page on the website until now. As suggested on this website, I was taking ACV for my kidney stone and food allergies and it worked great on both. But I stopped taking ACV 3 weeks ago as I was noticing other symptoms, which I didn't know what to call, until I read your post...now I know what to call them...brain fog. I have bypothyroid for the last 14 years and have been on Eltroxin (100mcg for most of the time) but never had this symptom of brain fog in the last 14 years. My thryoid was totally regulated with Eltroxin (though my skin has become dry and my hair falls) that I had almost forgotten about this condition and so I didn't check if taking ACV would have any side effect on my hypothyroid. I guess it did and my thyroid seems to have gone bad due to which I have the brain fog and just like you I have had problems in the office in the last 3 weeks, which I have never had in 23 years of my career. My doctor has done blood tests for thyroid yesterday and the results are expected by Monday. I don't mind increasing the dosage of Eltroxin if that could rid me of the brain fog and change me back to the person I have always been.
As regards the Extra Virgin Coconut Oil, did you increase the quantity? Did it help or did it cause any heart palcipitation like others have complained of? If it did, did you reduced your medicine? Did it feel better then?
I am a bit scared to use the coconut oil without asking the doctor because I started the ACV without consulting my doctor and while it helped me with what I took it for, it seems to have had a side effect on my thyroid.
I would appreciate if you could respond re your coconut oil intake. Thanks.
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Thank you so much for sharing the inforamation. That may be it. I used to take ACV within 2 hours of taking Eltroxin, so maybe Eltroxin didn't have enough time to get absorbed. I too take iron tablets which I take around 7 hours after taking Eltroxin.
I take my Eltroxin in the morning, about half or one hour before my breakfast. Are you aware if that is when thyroid medicines should be taken?
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Thanks for responding.
my thyroid results will not be out at least until Monday (or may be later). Meanwhile, I am considering taking EVCO, but I don't want to take too much or take at the wrong time and have heart palpitations r any other problem.
Could I ask you how much EVCO you take and when? Is it ok to take it with breakfast (which will only be around an hour after taking my Eltroxin)? You mention you take Synthyroid so I guess you wouln't be consuming a lot of ECVO either. I want to get rid of this brain fog that has developed since the last 4 weeks and am willing to try the natural remedy to get rid of it. Once my brain fog is cleared and hopefully my thyroid medication dosage altered, I wouldn't mind coming off it.
I would also consult with my doctor re prolonged use of 3 tbsp of EVCO daily and to reduce my thryoid medication if need be, in which case I guess I will have to get blood tests done every 2 weeks in the beginning.
Does anyone else have anything to add on the usage of EVCO with while on Eltroxin.
Thanks.
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Thanks for responding. Yesterday I took the 2nd tbsp before dinner and had a upset stomach till the morning. I wil try 1 tsp now before dinner.
I live in a hot place so the EVCO I bought was completely melted when I took it out of the shelf the 2rd day to drink. It looks beautifully clear and for me it tastes delicious.
ACV close to Eltroxin seems to have done the same to my hypothyroid. I would have the results out tomorrow and will probably be on increased dosage of Eltroxin. Are you still on increase dosage of Synthyroid? I mean even after you started EVCO?
I have had hypothyroid for 14 years but never felt this bad. I hope to be back to my normal self soon.
Deidre, ACV is wonderful, but may be you should post a warning for people with thyroid (and may be other conditions) to give a gap of at least 4 hours between taking thyroid medication and ACV, because otherwise ACV seems to interfere with the absorption of thyroid medicine and the results are not what we would like to see. This might also be true for iron supplements.
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EC: Thanks for the great suggestion! I copied part of your post and put it on the apple cider vinegar page under Warnings and Caveats.
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I have been very sensitive to not-so-good quality of oil from my childhood. As we couldn't find the regular vegetable oil I use at the supermarket around beginning of April, I bought Canola oil. As the container was leaking, I transferred it to the vegetable oil container I had at home which was empty and forgot all about canola oil. Shortly after I had started using it, I had trouble with my memory and concentration, but I had forgotten all about my sensitivity to oils and about canola oil as it was coming out from the vegetable oil container. Just 5 days ago I remembered my sensitivity and researched about canola oil on the internet and found others who have had similar problems. It was also mentioned that it effects the central nervous system and could cause blindness in the long run. I stopped using it right away and started feeling better the next day itself.
I am glad I am sensitive to not-so-good oils as I feel the effects immediately. My family members who are not sensitive, would have seen worse effects after a few years if we continued to use it.
While I was reading about oils, I also found that the vegetable oil (the container of which has pictures of vegetables on the front) is actually a soy bean oil. I never read the ingredients as the name says vegetable oil and it has has pictures of vegetables. I found that soy bean oil is not at all good for thyroid and generally.
I have been using olive oil for normal cooking and vegetable oil for deep frying (sometimes) since. But since the vegetable oil isn't good and olive oil is not suitable for deep frying - it leaves the question...which is the best oil to use?
I would appreciate input from others as to which oil to use - which will not be hard on thyroid and which will also not cause brain fog or any other health issues.
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For a sluggish thyroid, you need kelp or another source of iodine, and you also need a good stress tab (B complex with added vitamins C & E) meal times and bedtime. Yes, the container says once a day, but take l tab 4 times a day.
If the vitamin E in the stress tab doesn't add up to at least 800mgm. per day, also get some vitamin E which is recommended for fibrocystic breasts, a total of l200 mgm. daily won't cause any problems and has a lot to do with the sexual functions of the body.
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There is an interesting history behind canola oil which was published in Nexus Magazine by Sally Fallon and Mary G. Enig.
Rapeseed has been used as a source of oil since ancient times because it is easily extracted from the seed. Interestingly, the seeds were first cooked before the oil is extracted. In China and India, rapeseed oil was provided by thousands of peddlers operating small stone presses that press out the oil at low temperatures. What the merchant then sells to the housewife is absolutely fresh.
Modern oil processing is a different thing entirely. The oil is removed by a combination of high temperature mechanical pressing and solvent extraction. Traces of the solvent (usually hexane) remain in the oil, even after considerable refining. Like all modern vegetable oils, canola oil goes through the process of caustic refining, bleaching and degumming -- all of which involve high temperatures or chemicals of questionable safety.
And because canola oil is high in omega-3 fatty acids, which easily become rancid and foul-smelling when subjected to oxygen and high temperatures, it must be deodorized. The standard deodorization process removes a large portion of the omega-3 fatty acids by turning them into trans fatty acids.
I wouldn't chance my health on ingesting something like canola oil - a heavily subsidized, genetically modified oil. Just saying... Bess
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People should eat natural saturated FATS found in nature like butter and coconut oil - coconut oil being more stable for cooking at temperature. Olive oil is also good but you have to be careful of how it is processed (and that nothing else has been added). Unlike what we have been told saturated fats are very healthy for us.
If you choose to consume canola oil do so at your own peril but don't spread untruths saying Canola oil is safe to consume. No vegetable oil (except olive oil) is that safe to consume...
People should do their own research anyway don't take my word for it or yours. The Weston Price website has some great info on fats and oils.
Truth: The fatty acids found in artery clogs are mostly unsaturated (74%) of which 41% are polyunsaturated. (Lancet 1994 344:1195)
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EC: ACV (not AVO) = Apple Cider Vinegar.
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Coconut oil is beneficial as long as it is NOT hydrogenated. Obviously extra virgin organic would be preferable, but get what you can. I've found you can find EVCO in the natural foods section at commercial grocery stores, such as Kroger.
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To Cathy from Villa Park, Illinois:
Please, test your blood:
DHEA-S: 150-200 for women
Testosterone: 45-85 for women
Best luck.
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