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December 22, 2018 // by Earth Clinic Reviews// 13 Comments
do you know of anyone that has tried a combination of coconut oil and bht? The coconut oil dissolves the lipid coating of viruses. Then the bht may be more effective. I have read about a study done in the Philippines in which coconut oil got rid of hiv virus.
Do you know of anyone that has used dmso on the liver area and had positive results in healing? Thank you
I have been using BHT dissolved in coconut oil for years. I use the refined coconut oil exclusively because the traces of water, minerals and proteins in the raw coconut oil are catalysts for oxidation reactions and will shorten its shelf life. I use it primarily for topical applications (10% by weight, up to 15% by weight in warm climates) because I have good bile and can absorb oral BHT efficiently without need for pre-dissolving it. But if you are missing your gall bladder, have problems with higher-fat diets and difficulty absorbing fat-soluble nutrients, or just do not get good results with BHT in capsules or crystals, there is no reason why you couldn't use coconut oil to take oral BHT. I prefer it because of its low level of unsaturation. I even brush my teeth with it.
I've used coconut oil for 15 years or more, and I do not think CNOil by itself dissolves the lipid coating of virii. I've heard that CNOil derivatives such as Monoloaurin (ML) and Lauricidin (LC) do.
I could not tolerate ML and LC. They seemed to cause bacterial imbalances in my GI tract, possibly by killing off the good bacteria and enabling the bad bacteria to multiply.
I have been using BHT at high doses of 2,000mg/day. At lower doses it was supportive but not nearly as effective for my herpes and other immune related symptoms as higher doses. It's been like a miracle. Unfortunately however, I am getting side effects at this high dosage – a constant rash on my face and diarrhea.
From the BHT book, it sounds like I may either be reacting to possible impurities, or I need to bypass the digestive track. So I am going to try and make the topical oil using refined coconut oil.
How exactly do you do this?? What does the 10-15% by weight mean? Am I to weight the coconut oil and then weight out 10-15% of BHT to oil ratio?
Also, what brand are you using? I am using the Whole Sale Nutrition brand, but am concerned given my side effects that it contains impurities. I know I could try the activated charcoal, but that seems a bit tricky given that I will have no idea how much BHT I end up taking since the charcoal will absorb some amount of the BHT, if not all of it.
Dear Daniela [ California ], Why not at least give the much lower dose BHT treatment I have discussed here so VERY many times now a try?
In my opinion: BHT taken with water only on an empty stomach is MUCH more effective than mixing BHT in ANY and ALL OILS. Also: 2,000mg per day is way TOO much BHT. BHT is not safe at such large doses.
I don`t know how much you weigh. The dosage I have discussed is 250mg of BHT per day for people who weigh 125 pounds or less. For those who weigh 150 pounds or more a second dose of 250mg of BHT MIGHT be required. Also: Any time adverse reactions occur LOWER the amount of BHT used.
Why not at least TRY the BHT with water only on an empty stomach method a try at the much lower doses I have discussed? That is what worked for me and others….Oscar
Thanks for replying. Yes, I have already tried the lower doses of BHT. I tried doses of 250mg-1000mg for 2 months. It did help, but I was still getting some amount of tingling, burning and itching consistently even at 1,000 mg. And, yes I take it on an empty stomach with only water.
Lower doses were preventing a larger outbreak, but I was always on alert since I still had symptoms, and if the symptoms got a little worse then I would feel forced to resort to using the Acyclovir ointment (which I had to use with some regularity).
As per my doctors suggestion, I entered in St. John's Wort and Lauricidin in July and that helped to lessen symptoms even more (along with the lower dosages of BHT), but I wasn't “cured”. Then in mid-August, after a very stressful event and symptoms worsening, I decided to up the dosage to 2,000 mg (which is what the BHT Book says is the very maximum safe dosage). I am getting my liver enzymes checked regularly by my doctor – all is OK so far. That's when my herpes symptoms went away completely! That high dosage actually worked, and despite major grief and loss, I was feeling more energetic and healthier over-all on this dose. But I also developed the side effects (rash and diarrhea).
After 6 weeks of feeling a lot better, but also dealing with these side effects, I lowered my dose to 1,000mg per day again and within several days I got a canker sore (not sure if this is related, but the haven't had a canker sore since childhood), plus a tiny amount of tingling came back. Sigh.
Because of my side effects, I'm keeping my dose lower anyway, but I am not clear this will work well enough for my viral issues, since symptoms are re-appearing already. My oral herpes symptoms are much more extreme than most. I am one of those more sensitive people. And I have chronic immune-related issues in general. What works for some people, does not work for all people. So, I need to try something else. I am already working with many of the nutritional protocols that the BHT book discusses, but will keep experimenting.
Steve – I'd love to understand what “10-15% by weight” means when making the oil mixture?? I don't understand this. How do you take it once dissolved in oil? Topically or orally? And what dosage does this Oil Mixture end up being both topically or orally? I know you say in the book that dosage is uncertain when applying topically, but any ideas at least?? I don't know where to start with this.
And does anyone know what brands are more “pure”? Has anyone tried using the activated charcoal as described in the BHT book to remove impurities?
Can you tell me the brand you use, when I take more than 700 mg my mind gets whacko..I have hep c genotype 3 and herpes, fun fun, Thank you for your information:)
Could you please tell me if I am supposed to take BHT with St Johns Wort? Please see below information that I am following. But I am aware that you say NOT to use with coconut oil which I will not do, but should I combine with ST JOHNS WORT?
"Firstly, you MUST combine BHT with the herb St. John’s Wort. St. John’s Wort contains a substance called hypericin, and the theory (yes, it’s only a theory at this stage) is that hypericin has the ability to travel down the ganglia nerve, so when it’s combined with BHT it acts as a carrier to get the BHT into the area where the herpes virus likes to hide (hypericin is also a strong antidepressant too). In addition to this, because BHT is fat soluble, it should always be taken with ½-1 tablespoon of organic virgin coconut oil for maximum absorption, along with vitamin C (see next cure)."
Please let me know 🙂
Thank you, Mrs Mills
Id like to know from Oscar and Steve F.: For how long must one stay on BHT to get rid of EBV, Herpes? How can you test to see if its gone?
Angie, you cannot get rid of lipid-enveloped viruses like herpes and EBV. They stay with you for the rest of your life. The average person has more herpes genomes in their body when they die than human genomes.
We live with viruses. Everybody lives with viruses all the time. Some people have flare-ups and others not. The trick is to change from somebody with flare-ups to somebody without flare ups. Some people have chronic viral load, and the trick is to make your virus dormant, so it just sits there, inactive.
So the answer to your question is that the switch from being troubled by viruses to not being troubled is not a matter of time. It's a matter of decreasing your viral susceptibility and encouraging viruses to become less virulent. BHT might help you do that. And vitamin A, selenium, sunlight, St. John's wort and hydrogen peroxide might help you as well.
The art of the matter is figuring out why each of use has viral susceptibility. For some, it could be estrogen dominance. For others, heavy metal toxicity. Leaky gut syndrome. Hypothyroidism. There are many ways that aerobic metabolism (energy production) can wane in us. Use of drugs, living in a toxic environment, eating the wrong foods, being unhappy, feeling helpless–it spans the gamut from the physiological to the psychological.
The Revici model of metabolic balance puts viral susceptibility at one extreme, either anabolic-anaerobic-alkaline dominance or catabolic-aerobic-acidic deficit. You can read about this in the BHT Book, a free PDF download from http://www.projectwellbeing.com/steve.
I'm pretty sure that Ayurvedic theory has its own constitutional types that pose increased and decreased susceptibility to viruses. Likely traditional Chinese medicine as well. Maybe somebody can also weigh in on homeopathic approaches to energy balance.
I have little expertise in Ayurveda and TCM. But can talk about BHT and other antiviral vitamins, minerals, nutrients, foods, etc. I hope this does not discourage you from trying to figure out why you have chronic EBV or periodic herpes flare-ups.
Just curious if those with HIV that are using BHT have already tried the Lysine regime?
I don't know of any, but I'm pretty sure that some were using lysine for herpes reasons. Most lipid-encapsulated viruses are not as lysine responsive as herpes.
I second Mrs Mills comments. I have read the exact same comment about taking BHT with SJW. I know Oscar you would say not to, but where is this coming from?
PS I noticed you hadn't replied to Mrs Mills comment, so just re-asking. Thanks so much.
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