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Oscar, Two years ago I took 350 mg capsule of BHT once a day for four days for the herpes virus. I had a nervous reaction to it so stopped after four days. It took me awhile to recover from that.
I would like to try it again and am wondering if anyone who has had this reaction has been able to take it at a lower dosage. If so, what would be the dosage to try?
I noticed a suggestion to break a capsule and touch the powder with a finger tip and try that for a reaction. If a reaction occurred when taking this small amount would it be as strong a reaction as with the 350 mg capsule? Or a lesser reaction?
I ask this because a pharmacist once told me that if you ever react to any medication you will always again react to it just as powerfully even if it's taken in a minute dose. Not sure whether to believe that as it doesn't seem logical.
To Matelina from SC,
To answer your question; you are going to try again the BHT to kill the virus but the first time you did it you had a reaction and your question is… is there a way to take it such that there is no reaction?
There is such a thing as building up a tolerance to something. So try a TINY amount of the BHT and just see. That's what I'd do anyway. Your first reaction was not life threatening was it? I did not get that from your post. So just try a few grains; the smallest amount you can… and with food so the BHT isn't hitting the system on an empty stomach.
By the way; there are other ways to kill a virus. I'm a big advocate of Colloidal Silver (high dose) taken over months to kill a system wide infection / echinacea…. Five drops twice a day for a month. Topical applications if possible of same.
Thank you. I do use echinacea when I have an outbreak only but the virus continues to return whereas with BHT I have read it eradicates the virus after a year or two.
With colloidal silver I'm concerned about turning blue. I saw photos of the guy on the news who turned blue from using colloidal silver and died recently.
The nervous reaction I had from taking the 350 mg capsules was pretty bad. It was internal shaking 24/7 and I was also very sick. I took the capsules for four days and quit. I then contacted Stephen Fowkes who was kind enough to respond and even talked with him on the phone. He told me it was a metabolic problem and that I should up my intake of Armour Thyroid. I tried that but it made no difference, a fact I didn't relate to Stephen Fowkes as I felt it was useless. It took me a year to fully recover. Since I told Stephen Fowkes about it I am always surprised to read on the internet that no adverse reactions have been reported as I did report that reaction to him.
I may try to take a tiny grain of it to see if I can build up. Thank you for replying.
To Matalina from Spartanburg: Some people do report a nervous disorder similar to drinking too much coffee when first trying BHT. Usually these problems go away within a week or two. But I always advise lowering the dosage of BHT used when ANY adverse effects are experienced. 350mg of BHT per day IS too much for more than a few people. If you wish to give the BHT another try it is sold in 250mg capsules. You can also try taking a capsule every other day. This dosage issue is something each person has to work out for themselves….Oscar
Matalina, That colloidal silver stuff is poison. What else are you taking ? The BHT treatment does NOT mix well with other treatments. If you choose to try a bunch of other treatments do NOT take BHT. Again: BHT does NOT mix well with many other treatments.
I am amazed at the number of people who insist on mixing all sorts of stuff together. A large part of pharmacy is all about avoiding mixing the wrong things together. Read the bottles and pamphlets provided with almost any drug out there and you will see that I am right about that….Oscar
Oscar, I was wondering what got you to try and most importantly, stick with the BHT treatment to see through to success… I imagine much was less known when you started.. and most give up after a month or so… Also, I noticed a steady increase in reviews on BHT on the iHerb site… I very much appreciate the work you've put into this… as it will help many..
Hello Rob from Manhattan, The subject title of this response is misleading because I first began using BHT as a treatment for hepatitis C.
You asked me why I started using BHT and stuck with it. My answer is because I was very sick and went to the VA outpatient clinic in Boston seeking help. The doctor gave me a physical examination and asked me if I had ever had blood transfusions. I told him I had many blood transfusions as a result of an old gunshot wound in 1968. He explained to me that I had jaundice and other signs of liver disease. He ordrered some blood tests and had me come back a few days later and told me I had hepatitis C. He told me they had this drug called interferon and that it helped some of veterans treated with it but only about 25% of them. This was in 1997 and they only had the first of the interferon drugs back then. He also said it made some veterans sicker and go bald. He ordered more blood tests and set up an appointment for a week later. I was unhappy about all this on the train ride home. I stopped in at a book store and they had a big dispay of Durk Pearson and Sandy Shaw`s " The Life Extension Companion ". I bought the book and read up on the use of BHT to treat the different herpes viruses. They discuss BHT as a treatment for lipid coated viruses. They also warn people with liver disease to NEVER take BHT. Well I found out hepatitis C is a lipid coated virus and decided to give BHT a try as a treatment for hepatitis C in spite of their warnings. I figured it could not be any worse than this interferon stuff.
The BHT worked so very well for me I was showing signs of improvement in one short week. When I saw that doctor he said I looked much better and ordered new liver function tests and a hepatitis C RNA test.
Anyway, after only a month or so of this BHT treatment my liver function tests were all normal except one that was close to normal and I was testing NEGATIVE with the hepatitis C RNA test. The doctor told me his residency with the VA was over. I told him I felt well and had no reason for any more doctors appointments.
My treatment was one 200mg of BHT twice a day with water on an empty stomach. I also took a standard multivitamin pill and a vitamin B complex pill now and then. About every other day along with a 500mg vitamin C pill and an occasional sodium selenite pill.
For me the BHT treatment worked very well. The results astounded me. I sent a letter about all this to the CDC and THE AMERICAN LIVER FOUNDATION. The only response I got was a request for money from The American Liver Foundation. I called them and told them to never ask me for money again….Oscar
Hello RSW: in re colloidal silver. 500 parts per million is plenty strong enough. My test for making sure it is a "for real" silver solution is just what you are now facing; a sinus infection. Just take enough in palm of hand to be about a teaspoon and sniff up sinus cavity on both sides. (Make sure it get deep into sinus cavity. ) You definitely have an infection so if this is a quality silver it WILL sting, especially on one side. Sinuses will begin draining in minutes and in five minutes you'll be breathing fairly well. Now, repeat the irrigation ten minutes later, leaning head back as silver drains down throat. The second time the stinging will be barely present. The infection is being killed.
Infection in the ears may be going on also so consider an application in the ear canals. The two (sinus irrigation and ear irrigation) will get to the eustacian tubes. I've had twenty years of experience with CS/ make my own and have personally seen hundreds of anecdotal stories so know quite well the results. Silver solution properly made will kill virus/fungus and bacteria if properly applied. Depending on the infection, repeated treatment might be necessary and sometimes for a long time. There are variables.
Thanks Oscar… I thought that it took a year or two for you to clear the virus… But am surprised to hear that it only took a month?… thanks for sharing.
Dear Rsw, Alright I will answer your question: Why do I consider so called coloidal silver a poison. It is an element that does NOT occur natuarally in human biology. I read a toxicology report that was included in some company selling colloidal silver as a portion of their patent application.
That toxicology report described the one toxicology test they had done. Ten young healthy rats were given the colloidal silver as recommended with dosage adjusted for the weight of these young adult and healthy rats.
After only two weeks on the colloidal silver treatment: Two of the ten rats so treated had discolored livers. One of those ten rats had softening of its heart tissue. This is called congestive heart failure. So out of ten rats so treated for only two weeks, three of those rats had observable signs of vital organ damage. The person who did this testing said the results were inconclusive.
This colloidal silver treatment does remind of the old salts of mercury treatments for syphilis. Those salts of mecury did work to varying degrees as a treatment for syphilis. But like mercury, silver accumilates in certain vital organs and damages them as that toxicology report clearly indicates. At least in my opinion it does. I am sure I will catch some heat for expressing my opiinion. So be it….Oscar
Hi Oscar, thank you for your candid and evidence-based view on CS. I respect what you have to say and appreciate your input. The more opinions we have on a subject, the better prepared we will be to make informed decisions. Thanks, again.
Hello Oscar; Am responding to your assertion that colloical silver is poison. You cite a toxicology study conducted by a manufacturer of Colloidal Silver (CS). You do not name the manufacturer. You do not specify the report. So you assert a manufacturer published a report that impuned his own product. Fascinating.
I can go on line and come up with abstracts that make assertions about silver accumulation in the organs and what I find is that they are using silver as a compound or like one that was done for a Euasian Toxocology Journal… Chickens were given the silver in unspecified quanties from a POWDER. Imagine the PPM level of that.
You depend heavly on that unnamed and uncited "study" to describe Ag as poison. Yet by not being able to analyze how the study was conducted we do not know the validity of your criticism.
Electrolysis made silver diluted to less than 500 ppm will not accumulate and even critics of CS concede that fact. Only big Pharma want to frighten us into believing otherwise.
I've been on CS about five times weekly at the high PPM now for 20 years and what you describe as "poison" must be a slow killer. I feel great. (And have had four hair samples taken in past ten years with NO indication of even abnormal silver levels.)
Oscar, if you had followed your own advice and trusted Pearson and Shaw's admonition about not using BHT to kill viruses if related to liver issues, you'd called BHT a poison. (Life Extension Companion)
Fortunately, you didn't follow their warnings and you have helped many people who are being devestated by Hep B and C.
And is BHT part of the "Human biology"? You criticize Ag, one of the elements of the periodic table, for not being part of the human biology when we get microscopic amounts of Ag daily and does no damage at all and yet you are an advocate of BHT which is not an element and definitely not a part of the human biology and you assert is a Hep B and C killer.
And on the odd assertion that silver softens the heart causing congestive heart failure. Please cite a source for that idea. I've read a lot about CHF over the years in all its many forms; usually the extra pressure being caused by plaque build up, or water retention; and that excess causes the heart to enlarge and HARDEN because of the intense pressure it must exert to force the blood through a restricted opening (hence high blood pressure as indicative of heart problems). A recent Mercola explanation of why distance runners develop HARDENED hearts which is just what happens with congestive patients. I've missed the "softening" issue which you attribute to silver sofenting the heart to cause CHF. I've read perhaps a dozen causes of CHF but the softening one has eluded me.
I've read plenty about the heart muscle "streching" as it tries more and more to pump blood all the while never catching up… That's not "softening" so I'm not at all following what you mean when you equate the "softening" with CHF… and then say that silver can cause the same.
Please cite your sources so I can get better informed.
I'm with you on this one Dave. It is beyond common that "studies" and "reports" are biased and skewed towards self interest and maximizing financial profits. Facts & knowledge suffer the same problem not only in medicine, but now dominating politics (one can effectively lie thru deceptive statistics). Simply consider the complications involved in the (man made?) global warming issue. C. S. Has a long track record of efficiency & safety in human use. C. S. Is also a preferred antibiotic for pets.
The white truths are always compromised by the dark lies, and the consequence is that grey area that many people get bogged down in with no path out.
Dave, I no longer see the man with Argyria in my neighborhood so cannot ask him how much he took to cause his condition.. Plus I would be reluctant to for obvious reasons.. But again, seeing him was enough to scare me away from the stuff. Making me realize it is real & possible. Also, I tend to respecet Andrew Weil's opinion & it appears he gives it a big thumbs down.. I did have a friend who had her own silver generating machine… & she never turned blue grey.. but for me the issue is, why take a chance and that there are many other germicides that are as or more effective.
Here is what Weil says….
Hi Dave and Oscar xxxxx
I am going to add my ten cents here also. Bicarb when given to birds and rats will blow them apart in seconds due to the rush of oxygen it supplies to their body, but it doesn't do it to humans or any other species that I know of. What's to say the web page you read is not Pharma scare tactics? You don't sell a product to bankrupt yourself by putting a negative statement up with it? Instant Bankrupt? And its been known for a long time pharma and supplement companies pay the lab workers to get rid of dead ra's and put live ones in the Labs so it gets passed as 'Safe for use'??? I too would like to see more solid evidence on this, I admire you greatly Oscar, but it's a bit suspect to me, I am with Dave on this matter. And there are other posts like this on EC that look like their all reading from the same piece of paper word for word. Love Andrea C xxxxxx
Hi that 'Smurf' fella your on about was not 'Smurfed' by Colloidal silver, but by his own stupidity, he made Silver himself, with too big a particle. Then to make it worse, he added salt, you're not suppose to put salt in it, and the 'Pharma Harmer's' paid him to parade his idiocy in public to scare people off using it, and them losing billion's as it's an amazing cure for a legion of illnesses that Pharmacutical Drug's will never equal. Million's of us, or maybe billion's of us, have used it for years, and Hippocrates was using it all that time ago, and year's before him it was recognized for its wonderful healing powers. I drink it, use it externally, put it in my eyes, under my arm's as a deodorant, brush my teeth in it, use it in every orifice of my body, wash and sterilize load's of thing's with it, so why don't I look like 'Smurfette'? And Hospital's use it to sterilize operating theatres and as dressings and spray's on severely burned people, it is the only thing the Medical Community agree kill's M. R. S. A, plus a whole host of cancer's. Antibiotics can only kill two hundred and odd bacteria strain's and no Viruses, and they are made from Mold. CS kill's over six hundred bacteria, viruses, mold, fungus, the list is never ending, parasites, etc. I have mentioned this before. And if it were true about Argria, why is there not Billion's of out sized 'Smurf Community's' that were once Human's?, next you'll believe that Zombie's are real, but I am beginning to wonder this myself about some people. Love Andrea C xxxx
Rob on the Colloidal Silver/ Grey issue:
And no one else responded to my general "challenge" to describe what process was being used by someone who has argyria. That was my point. And you also talk about another neighbor you have who uses the electrical system and has no problem.
My argument is, we hear of argyria cases and I can never can get an explanation on how they are incorrectly doing it.
One part per mission is like one inch in 12 miles. I do more than that but the miniscule amount cannot cause a problem. Now if I drank a cup of concentrate daily… An amount you could actually see in the glass container and drank that every day for months, then I could see how that concentration… 100,000 parts per million perhaps, how that amount could cause argyria.
Thanks for responding.
One of BHT's side effects is hypotension. This often manifests in people with poor vagal tone (sympathetic dominance, anxiety, nervousness), with low metabolic rate (cold hands and feet, low body temperature, low pulse rate), with orthostatic hypotension (sit up, stand up, get dizzy), and an alkaline metabolic imbalance (see explanation at: http://www.projectwellbeing.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/BHTbook-StevenWmFowkes-1410161.pdf). People experiencing a low-blood-sugar attack or a low blood pressure episode will often go into sympathetic defense involving adrenal hormones (cortisol, norepinephrine and epinephrine), which raises the blood pressure and blood sugar but leaves people wired, irritable, anxious, edgy, uncomfortable and nervous.
This side effect from BHT is strongest in the first 2-3 days and rapidly attenuates with regular BHT use. BUT, in a particularly sensitive person, it might persist, especially if the person had a long-standing adrenal compensation for low thyroid or some other anti-thyroid influence (e.g., heavy metal poisoning).
When I wrote the BHT Book, I emphasized the synergies between BHT and other metabolic influences so that those other influences would get similar respect as BHT, for those who cannot tolerate BHT gracefully. Perhaps you are such a person?
There are impurities in BHT that could cause side effects that may look like they are caused by BHT. So considering switching brands, buying BHT from another vendor, or adding some activated charcoal to your BHT intake.
Or just use the antiviral nutrients.
I recently took 500mg/day of BHT for four days to cure herpes type 2 after reading the paper by Fowkes. I was tested a week later and still showed positive for the virus. I also heard Dave Asprey on a podcast with Steve Fowkes recently discussing the efficacy of BHT as a cure. Dave Asprey has also said that taking BHT for 3 days will result in a cure. I am still willing to believe this is possible and wondering how to proceed for best results, like taking the same dose for longer periods of time, etc. What success have other users had? How long did it take?
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