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I want to point out that according to https://www.aqua-calc.com/calculate/weight-to-volume 1000 mg equalts 0.12 tsp or close to 1/8 tsp and not 1/4 tsp as mentioned “¼ teaspoon (940 mg ~ 1,000 mg) of borax” in your article.
“The density of borax is 1.73 gram/cm^3. A gram therefore has a volume of 0.58 cm^3. However a teaspoon is 5cm^3. Therefore 1 gram of borax is about a tenth of a teaspoon. Or if you prefer: 1 teaspoon full of borax is about 9 gram”
So 1/4 tsp should have approx. 226 mg of boron.
Please advise if you agree.
Thank you, Christine
I was wondering if you knew how much elemental boron is in one teaspoon of borax powder? Or how much boron is in 6 grams of borax powder?
I’m a little confused about the math. If one teaspoon of borax powder is about 6 grams, then how can you get multiple 3 gram doses of boron in the water concentrate recipe? If you start out with only 6 grams of borax powder, then you probably wouldn’t have more than 3 grams of boron in the quart of distilled water “concentrate”.
RE: BORAX dosages Hi I just watched you video on how to prepare borax solution and cannot make sense of the dosages you have there. Here in front of me I have a precise scale for mg and cup to measure the ml. So 1tsp is about 5ml. One levelled teaspoon of borax is around 4g which is 4000mg. 1L of water is 1000ml which is 200 tsp serving. Thus 1tsp serving is 4000mg/200 = 20mg which is NOT 2mg. for the Ted’s formula it is not 110mg but 1000mg. Can you please clarify? I wonder if it will make any difference if I take just 2mg when you actually reported the healing effect at 20mg. Thank you
sorry for the confusion, just spotted that actually the boron is just 11% in the borax which makes your calculation OK. Regards Val
Teresa in Oh, wonderful news! How are you doing? How many tsps is in 150 mg please? I have arthritis in my spine from a failed Lumbar fusion! I am currently taking a very small amount of borax and want to increase my dose! Your post convinced me!
Just a very important note:
The suggested borax doses are very inaccurate! They are based on the premise that a teaspoon of borax is 4 grams. The weight of Borax is NOT 4gm per Teaspoon, it's actually 8.65gm per metric teaspoon, which means you're taking more than double the stated 113mg and 56mg.
In actual fact,
1/8 tsp = 119mg of boron
1/4 tsp = 238 mg of boron
(BORON, not BORAX)
Please don't just cut and paste information without verifying its accuracy!
It is my understanding that borax contains 11.36% boron. I use a "level full" 1/4th teaspoon bakers measuring spoon (USA) to measure my borax. The 1/4th spoon, when measured with a digital scale, shows on average, 970 mg of which 11.36% is boron. If I multiply 970 mg x .1136 (11.36%) = 110.192 mg of boron in my 1/4th teaspoon or about 110 mg per 1/4th teaspoon dose and about 55 mg of boron per 1/8th teaspoon dose. These are the two doses recommended by Ted on this website.
Based on this, I do not understand how you arrived at the figures in your post showing more than double what I calculate for these two doses. I get that different types of spoons from around the world may vary in their accuracy or actual size, but If I am also using a digital scale in conjunction with the spoon for verification, how can I be that far off? What am I doing wrong?
Based on the fact that measuring spoons can vary depending on where you are in the world, it may be more accurate to describe Ted's Borax protocol in terms of milligrams per dose instead of in fractional teaspoon measurements. The 1/4 teaspoon dose delivers approximately 970 mg while the 1/8th teaspoon dose delivers approximately 485 mg. While the 1/8th and 1/4 teaspoon doses work fine here in the US, people from many other country's come to EC and their measuring spoons may be significantly different than ours!
Based on the known toxicity of borax, both of these doses fall well below that toxicity level.
Please clarify how much 8 ounces is, in metric unit measurement ie, in millilitres or litres.
Clement, 8 ounces equals one quarter of a liter.
Hi Rob. I just weighed 1 tsp of borax obtained from Blants on my commercial scale and it weighs between 4 and 5 grams…..
I'm curious about the dosage to be taking, the doctor's office directions said to mix 2 TBSP Borax with 1 Liter of water and gulp morning and night. To me that meant 1 swallow in the morning and night. I did that for several days and then saw the video from you guys and now I am questioning their directions for dosage.
Ted suggested taking 1/8 teaspoonful in one liter of water and drinking that throughout the day, for women. 1/4 teaspoonful borax for a man in one liter water, consumed throughout the day. I believe someone figured out that this was still a fairly potent amount of boron, so 2T seems very high.
Hi Bryel…The borax dosages that EC quoted from Ted are quite correct. Also bear in mind that borax has the same toxicity profile as common table salt. When you take the male dose of 250 mgs of borax(1/4 tspn) you are only actually ingesting about 113 mgs of boron — and the woman's borax dosage(1/8 tspn) is ony about 55 mgs of boron.
To further help you to understand the dosages, usefulness and importance of Borax for our bodies, you should watch this video:
The Boron and Borax Miracle (Dr Jorge Flechas)
I've also been using Ted's male Borax Water dosages on a regular basis for about the last 11 years (since 2007) without any problems at all — and I'm 68 y o.
Ok so for those having issues with Borax. I took 1/4 teaspoon in an 8 once glass of hot water about the temp you would make tea at. It was incredible each day pain seemed to melt away. About 3 weeks into this I started to get diarrhea. So I droped my dose from 1/4 teaspoon a day to 1/8 teaspoon a day and everything was good. Did improvements slow? Yes. Did my pain come back? No. I figure after a few months I will try moving back to 1/4 teaspoon a day.
Oh I am 44 years have had 3 ankle surgeries, a knee surgery, have diabetes, a leaking heart valve and a whole in half my sacrum from spinabifida. I have been terrible pain since age six and was told I would never walk again, never play sports again blah blah….Since I had the right knee of a 90 year old man at age 12 I played sports, lifted weights, climbed mountains etc…..
Oh I forgot about my broken spine and arthritis in multiple joints including my left hand. Slowly but surely I am reversing my type ii diabetes with diet and exercise. I am reversing my many issues with nutrients including Borax. I know what it is to go from squatting over 700lbs. bench pressing 475lbs. to barely being able to get out of the way of one's own shadow.
So just keep in mind that if a dose of Borax is too high and causes you side effects do not give up on it just cut the dose until the side effects go away. You can always build up but if you give up well all is lost! Take each day one day at a time. Think in terms of weeks, months, years, decades. You did not end up where you are instantly so it will likely take some time to turn things around.
As a fellow American I know we are short on patience as a Nation and want Instant Results but life does not work that way usually! Stay focused on the dream and just take one step towards it each day a marathon is not a huge intense sudden effort rather it is a series of moderate efforts repeated over and over and over again until you get to the end!
Judging by the percentage of negative results on Ted's regimen, and the positive results my family has experienced, I would say it's probably safe to assume this dose is too high for the average person.
My family hast been taking only at most a 1/2 tsp in 5 gallons of water daily – there are 4 of us – we put it in our 5 gal dispenser along with some other minerals (favorite being Himalayan pink salt for its 88 minerals). My husband and I are over 50 and have no aches or pains caused by arthritis or rheumatism – and we have had our share of bone injuries in the past. Can't say it has helped the Candida on my part, I could probably stand to up the dose from here. This is the dose I started my husband and kids on and no problems at all – good benefits I can see. I hope you will try this to get your daily Boron, just start low, low, low. Good luck and God bless!
When you look at boron vitamin supplements, the amount is almost always around 3 mg. so I would think 56-113 mg. is way too much. A friend of mine always said just a pinch a day; which would make a lot more sense. If 1/8 tsp in 1 liter = 56mg. then use 10 liters instead to get it down to 5.6 mg.
IMHO 3 mg of boron is useless. Search YouTube for Dr Jorge Flechas videos on boron. He recommended to my dentist that I start with 90 for 3 months then dropping to 60 for 3 months. Then dropping to a maintenance dose of 30. Every time I decreased my knee started hurting. I had to wait six months for each decrease. I have put off knee replacement for three years and still going. Every time my RA flares up, I up my dose. Currently I am taking 150 mg to combat osteoporosis. According to Dr Flechas this is the dose his wife needed to reverse her osteoporosis. And My RA is doing great.
My daughter got rid of candida by using Yst Management. I did not misspell it, that is how it is spelled.
I always add freshly squeezed lemon juice to my borax water mixture for taste and just to be sure I don't neutralize my stomach acid.
I thought the same thing I am reading online upper tolerable limit for boron is 20 mg a day, I broke out my smidgeon (1/32 tsp) measuring spoon and filled it about a third full..probably about 7 mg..if my calculations are right..
1/2 teaspoon between 4 people per day is 1/8 teaspoon each – which is what Ted recommends. So you are taking his dose.
Ted and many others here including myself have mentioned Borax as a very effective arthritis remedy that is readily available and is dirt cheap. Borax is just over 11% boron so if you use Borax at the doses that Ted has previously mentioned of 1/8th teaspoon for smaller people and 1/4th teaspoon for larger people, you will be getting about 55mg or 110mg of boron respectively.
For me it takes the larger dose to completely control arthritis, but each person is different and starting lower and working your way up makes good sense……why use more than you need to get the desired health benefit. Dr. Rex Newnham, Ph.D., D.O., N.D, who discovered and popularized the use of Borax and boron in the 1960's said that some people found benefit with as little as 10 mg per day and for people who's condition was more severe and or of longer duration, it could take more Borax or boron and it could take up to 3 or 4 months to get the full benefit.
Studies on boron show that it offers many health benefits to people that goes well beyond just arthritis and osteoporosis, two common uses for it. Below is a short abstract from PubMed that lists some of those health benefits of which there are more than what is listed.
For those who are concerned about the safety of Borax and boron, as you should be, there is an abstract below the first one that explains this in clear language and Ted's dosing does not even come close!
Integr Med (Encinitas). 2015 Aug;14(4):35-48.
The trace mineral boron is a micronutrient with diverse and vitally important roles in metabolism that render it necessary for plant, animal, and human health, and as recent research suggests, possibly for the evolution of life on Earth. As the current article shows, boron has been proven to be an important trace mineral because it (1) is essential for the growth and maintenance of bone; (2) greatly improves wound healing; (3) beneficially impacts the body's use of estrogen, testosterone, and vitamin D; (4) boosts magnesium absorption; (5) reduces levels of inflammatory biomarkers, such as high-sensitivity C-reactive protein (hs-CRP) and tumor necrosis factor α (TNF-α); (6) raises levels of antioxidant enzymes, such as superoxide dismutase (SOD), catalase, and glutathione peroxidase; (7) protects against pesticide-induced oxidative stress and heavy-metal toxicity; (8) improves the brains electrical activity, cognitive performance, and short-term memory for elders; (9) influences the formation and activity of key biomolecules, such as S-adenosyl methionine (SAM-e) and nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide (NAD(+)); (10) has demonstrated preventive and therapeutic effects in a number of cancers, such as prostate, cervical, and lung cancers, and multiple and non-Hodgkin's lymphoma; and (11) may help ameliorate the adverse effects of traditional chemotherapeutic agents. In none of the numerous studies conducted to date, however, do boron's beneficial effects appear at intakes > 3 mg/d. No estimated average requirements (EARs) or dietary reference intakes (DRIs) have been set for boron-only an upper intake level (UL) of 20 mg/d for individuals aged ≥ 18 y. The absence of studies showing harm in conjunction with the substantial number of articles showing benefits support the consideration of boron supplementation of 3 mg/d for any individual who is consuming a diet lacking in fruits and vegetables or who is at risk for or has osteopenia; osteoporosis; osteoarthritis (OA); or breast, prostate, or lung cancer.
[Available on 2016-08-01]
Biol Trace Elem Res. 1998 Winter;66(1-3):343-57.
Inorganic borates, including boric acid, Na, ammonium, K, and Zn borates generally display low acute toxicity orally, dermally, and by inhalation. They are either not irritant or mild skin and eye irritants. Exceptions owing to physiochemical properties do occur. Longer-term toxicological studies have been reported mainly on boric acid or borax where the properties are generally similar on an equivalent boron (B) basis. The critical effects in several species are male reproductive toxicity and developmental toxicity. The doses that cause these effects are far higher than any levels to which the human population could be exposed. Humans would need to consume daily some 3.3 g of boric acid (or 5.0 g borax) to ingest the same dose level as the lowest animal NOAEL. No effects on fertility were seen in a population of workers exposed to borates or to a population exposed to high environmental borate levels. There is remarkable similarity in the toxicological effects of boric acid and borax across different species. Other inorganic borates that simply dissociate to boric acid are expected to display similar toxicity, whereas those that do not dissociate simply to boric acid may display a different toxicological profile.
[PubMed – indexed for MEDLINE]
Which brand of borax do you use?
In reply to Peter (Chicago),
I use 20 Mule Team Borax which is typically available in the laundry isle of most major markets. Generally under $5. Here is a link to the item in Walmart.
With the recommended use for women 1/8 tsp in 1 liter for 5 days and 2 off. For how long can one continue with that dosage? and should the maintenance dose be the 1 tsp in 1 liter concentrate?
I buy boric acid powder at the pharmacy and mix a small portion with boiled water. (You can find amounts online). You can soak gauze in it then apply it.
In the old days, and I mean in the 1920s-1950s – my grandmother always kept a warm pan of boric acid water on the back of the stove. It was that important to have on hand when raising six kids. They didn't have antibiotics for most of those years – so infections were drawn out with compresses and wounds were sterilized this way.
Side effect reported
I have to say this site is very enlightening! I have been using Borax 20 team Mule for about 8 weeks now. Dosage 1/4 tsp in a pint of distilled water with 7 drops of Lugol's iodine and a splash of apple cider vinegar. Consumed each day.
Right now I am in a lot of pain, actually I am finding it hard to write, otherwise I would be far more polite.
I am 52 going on 53, male. 6'2″, weigh about 90kg, I don't carry a lot of fat. Around 3 years ago I started to experience a lot of pain around my joints, shoulders and back.
I am a landscape gardener and sometimes the work is extremely physically labour intensive as I do a lot of garden construction. I live in London and a lot of the gardens are inaccessable to machines, diggers and the like, so it's all by hand.
I have noticed that after a hard day at the office that the morning after my body feels like its on fire and the pain is everywhere. My body is also very stiff all over and takes about 2 hours to limber up. I am inclined to believe that I have fibromyalgia like symptoms.
Since taking Borax I have noticed improvements in finger joints, knees and elbows. They feel stronger and less sensitive.
Right now though I have developed extreme pain in my right hip and I think it is the joint itself, also my right leg is numb along its length. I am not able to walk more than a few steps as the pain is unbearable. I have also developed a chest infection which seems to be clearing somewhat but this morning I was coughing up a disgusting green sputum.
Over the last 2 months or so I have been working hard on my house in preparation to sell it and move lock stock and barrel's to South West France where we own a very old farm which needs restoring from top to bottom. Part of my prep has been to try and rid myself of these physical ailments so that I will be fit and healthy for the work ahead which is considerable.
I have never had problems in my hips and if this problem persists then I will be fit for nothing. I have 2 sons aged 15 and 7 and we had daughter last September so you see I need all my strength most importantly for them and the wife. I think I might have overdosed on the Borax.
Any advice would be much appreciated. Kind regards, Julian
Julian, I suspect that when we are generally low in vitamins and minerals, it is possible that supplementation can exacerbate other deficiencies.
Going on this premise, you might want to look into the vitamins that tend to be depleted by boron–possibly vit d, calcium and especially magnesium. High vitamin A may help with the lung infection issue.
Dear Pinch, I am sorry you are in such pain and I have not used Borax. We share a background in hard horticultural work, however, and I am going to throw out a few things that have stopped the pain that used to wake me up in the night. My pain was in my hands, neck, and ankles and, after doing a lot of reading, I found help through simple changes. I did drink a tea made from vinegar for a while, but later amended my diet to keep my body alkalized. I started drinking a lot more unflouridated water and stopped most alcohol, all flour, sweets, and dairy. These last 4 are common sources of inflamation. I don't know about you, but some of the joints that were painful actually looked reddish each morning. Now my joints are the same color as the skin around them and I rarely feel morning stiffness. In fact, your letter reminded me that I hadn't given stiffness a thought in many months. The thing about this site is that one never knows what things have already been tried, but perhaps you may find something useful here. Good luck to you.
Pinch, If I may add another comment, I just remembered another change I made that helped joint pain and stiffness. It was just the simple taking of a couple of calcium capsules per day. Now I have switched to drinking homemade bone broth instead. My feeling is that you had damaged joints and now have fibromyalgia as well.
Many thanks for taking the time to reply to my post Nanowriter and Iowama. I have also written a couple of emails to Ted but so far no reply, which is not suprising considering his difficulties.
I have done a lot of reading on Borax and in 1 article found on the internet somewhere it stated that Borax can bring on a Herxheimer reaction resulting in stiffness and pain in the shoulders in hips accompanied by numbness in hands and feet.
This indeed happened to me in a big way, first in the shoulders which subsided after a few days. Sometime later I noticed similar side effects in my right leg and then my hip which became excruciatingly painful and the pain extended down to my right knee. These areas are still very painful but it is beginning to lessen. I think I am having a Herxheimer reaction. I have always been an avid brusher of teeth using fluoridated toothpaste and I am convinced that this is part of the reason for my plight. I also discovered that it is possible that I am being decalcified. Apparently the sciatic nerve can be severely calcified from fluoride and the decalcification process is not on the list of great ways to have a good time. These articles go on to say that the Herxheimer reaction is a sign of healing and not to give up, so I have kept going. 10 weeks into it now.
I know that throughout my life I have subjected my body to gruelling feats of endurance as this my OTTP nature. You always pay the price somewhere down the line but hopefully it is not to late to put things right and also learn a bit of moderation.
I am now alkalising with Bicarb and also taking high doses of ascorbate acid, epsom salts in baths and internally. The baths are wonderful!
I have a big “L” plate on my back in regards to alternative remedies but I am a firm believer that God has provided everthing we need in nature for healing. The problem it seems is that we systematically consume food that is not beneficial to health and that medical science loves a sick population to maximise their profits. “For the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil.” History provides all the evidence we need of this sad fact.
Many thanks again and good health to you always! Julian
From my experience, everything helps but pain comes from inflammation/damage to tissue. This doesn't repair unless you alkaline the system constantly (half a teaspoon of bicarbonate) twice a day on an empty stomach. Anti-inflammatories such as 1/2 teaspoon cumin with 1/4 teaspoon of black pepper mixed with coconut oil to make a paste, mix with warm milk and honey to taste.
Julian dear, I am an old lady of 70 and I think you ought to have a spinal XRay. It seems as though you might have Spinal Stenosis.That is a narrowing of the spinal canal and the nerves get pinched. A person can be born with it or get it in their 50s. I am no expert, but I was born with it and your symptoms are just like mine.The thigh and hip pain is crippling and extremely painful.
I feel for you and hope that you do not have Lumbar Stenosis.There are minor surgical opps for it but in Australia one would have to to Sydney and pay. In case you do have this problem I can give you a marvelous E address to help.spinehealth.com. There is a small opp that is done posterior and is something I would like but, the docs here reckon they cannot help me.The Coflex Interlamminer Stabilisation Device is amazing and well worth checking out, if you may need it.You can even see an opp on your PC if you like. I'm sure someone in your country does this.
All the best, Anne.
Hellos. Please check your calcium and phosphorous levels. My mother had parathyroid which caused calcium to be leeched from bones causing pain. Read up on this. Perhaps this is your problem
Hey Pinch!! I hope your post was a typo…” Dosage 1/4 tsp in a pint of distilled water”. The correct dosage should be 1/4 tsp in a liter of water. In a sense, you are overdosing just a bit. A pint is equal to 16 ounces and a liter is equal to 33 ounces. you are pretty much doubling your dosage which would give you all your symptoms that you are experiencing. Hope this helps you.
Hi my name is David.
I feel rather stupid about this. I have been reading a lot about borax for some of my ailments. Long story short, I have got a little mixed up with the rates. I have just taken a quarter of a teaspoon in 600ml of water. I now realise this may be way too much. I worried it will have some adverse affect. please help
I read on here some weeks ago that the quantity is the very tip of your finger in 1 litre of water, so about 15 grains of the stuff per 1000 mils.
As for your mixture..I would drink a lot of water about 3 litres, over the next couple of days then make a new batch, and when it does not taste soapy, you know you have it about right.
Now, I too am in Australia and wanted to ask you what borax you are using? This is because Hovex is no longer available anywhere around here, only the brand, Bare Essentials.
Hey again. Thanks for replying. I bought the bare essentials borax from Coles for bout 5 dollars. I read the msd sheet and it said it had no added fragrances. So I assumed this was fine????.I also feel totally fine a day after so I'm not so worried now.
I think Ted's recommended dosage of borax for men is 1/4 teaspoon in a liter of water per day. 5 days a week. So you were not way off base. You might drink more water to dilute it further.
My husband takes borax five days a week. If he takes too much it gives him digestive distress. But it doesn't last too long. I would encourage you not to worry.
~Mama to Many~
I read it was a quarter of a teaspoon in a litre of water. That makes your solution. Then you on take one or two teaspoons of that litre solution per day. Can someone clarify if this is correct??
Hi David& Jenn, We have been using the bare essensials brand for a while now. I think it may be the only one available now in the suppermarkets. Harpers is not available any more here in Vic. At least l cant find it now. A mistake was made when I was very ill and I took aprox 1.5 tsp (yes more than 1 but less than 2 tsp with no ill effects. No matter how sick I am I have never made this mistake again. It is interesting to look at the msds of borax & the msds of sodium chloride (salt) and see how safe borax really is. Although as mama to many said digestion can be temporarily upset & I would assume hormones would be effected with larger doses.
After checking one of the other links about the effect on Candida, I now understand why this body is feeling currently worse. The mucus, pain in hand and finger joints, spinal stenosis symptoms of pinched nerves affecting neck, eyes, nose, ears, arms, skull (massive pain), depression etc. etc. – all part of the detox. I'm glad I read that as I had a feeling these are CURRENTLY detox symptoms and I'm prepared to continue until the boron in the Borax finally works, as I need a job. I'm 63. My meditation also gives relief to the pressure. Not a cure, but helps. Taking pressure off the mind takes pressure off the body.
Another place to get it in Oz is at Bunnings – same brand.
Good to read all this feedback on the effect of boron. I'm so grateful I finally discovered the info online. It gives hope.
Thank you all and I wish success – no more suffering and pain to you all.
If you are unsure how much boron you are receiving from borax (sodium tetraborate, sodium borate, sodium tetraborate or even disodium tetraborate).
Here is how you figure it out:
Borax is: Na2B4O7.10H20
The atomic weights are:
Na = 22.98976928, B = 10.81, O = 15.999, H = 1.008
Total Boron is 10.81*4=43.24
Boron factor is 43.24/381.3625 = .11338
Boron factor is .11338 so the boron percentage is 11.338%. So regardless of how much volume of borax you use you need to weigh it and multiply the total weight of borax by .11338, this give you how much boron you are receiving.
This brings back memories of high school chemistry. 😉
Dear Earth Clinic,
Boron Consumption Update with Questions:
I have been taking 5 times the maintenance dose daily for some weeks, with a day or two break here and there.
I have seen an improvement in overall energy of the body, and aches and pains of the joints don't seem to last more then a short time.
Starting on a higher dose I notice a severe reaction (host flushes, numbness of face, disorientation) of 1/4 to 1/8 a teaspoon.
I still get the hot face feeling a little bit on the low dose, though I think I have found the amount that works for me.
A friend of mine in his early 70's has started on the same does that I have, though he splits his up into two cups of water a day.
The process for consumption; is using one of the teaspoon sets; like these http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Amco-Measuring-Spoons-for-Small-Amounts-/141301745022?pt=Measuring_Cups&hash=item20e63d857e&_uhb=1
the smallest teaspoons on there works out to be about 1/64 of a teaspoon. I weighed and calculated; 2 of these (in two doses) or one the size up from this is (1/32 of teaspoon size on that set, the second smallest teaspoon in the set), that 2 of the first, or one of the second; is equal to 5 times the maintenance dose of 3mg of boron a day.
I calculated the boron as 11% of the the borax molecule.
I think my calculations were such; Having measured a heaped teaspoon of borax at around 6.5 grams, then calculating that a liter of water is 202 teaspoons; we end up with 1 teaspoons equaling about 33mg or 0.033g of borax content.
Thus working out that this has only 11% boron (of the the 33mg) we end up with 3mg content or 0.003g or boron in each teaspoon.
Thus working out that two of the 1/64th of 1 of the 1/32 teaspoons sizes *in the drop, pinch etc. set mentioned above. Calculated these to be 0.14g or 140mg. Thus boron content is 11% = 15.4mg of boron content; which is 5 times the maintenance does of 3mg a day.
Thus when the effects become clear and at completion one can go down to the maintenance dose by drinking the solution over 5 days.
* I found the idea of using a liter with a teaspoon, two difficult for my life style in the bush.
* I would suggest always using borax, as its alkaline, as apposed to boric acid which is mixed with hydrochloric acid and acidic already.
Note; make the solution with boiling water, add the amount then stir. Drink anytime afterwards (i usually drink it an hours or few hours later, or over a few days).
My question to ted; is about boron build up; should one even with small detox as here; have a day or two of a week; or can one stick through on the 5 times does; or its a personal decision? What are the effects of build up in the body.
P.S My friend has noticed a great improvement in his arthritis; though both he and I do take some magnesium as well (small dose)
P.P.S In Australia there is a company called blants; it can be ordered cheaply from there website; it comes from turkey, very good quality.
P.P.P.S The only other side affect that I noticed that if it is taken in the evening sometimes it can cause insomnia for several hours; (only happened to both me and my friend on one occasion each).
Kind Regards, A Friend From Australia
THANKYOU MOST KINDLY FOR YOUR HELP 🙂 Peace
I would not take more and more borax. A post I read said to take less as time goes on. Unless I missed something. More isn't always better. Sometimes less is.
Boron is in most multi vitamins.
"Hot Face" boron is antidote to radiation. When you feel the hot face it seems to be radiation. I scrub my face with it in the shower after any radiation exposure, and I do it daily until there's no heat reactions.
Dear Mr. Ted,
I hope this finds you well. I am writing to ask you a few questions regarding Borax intake. I've read that Borax may help in increasing the free testosterone and at the same time reducing the estrogen levels, so I have decided to give it a try. Recently, I started to take Lugol's iodine along with Vit C, Magnesium (400 mg), a B complex (50 mg) and Selenium (200 mcg). As for the appropriate dosage for Borax, I am quite confused. I have prepared the 1 litre concentrate with water (non fluorated) and a teaspoon of Borax. Yesterday I took 1 teaspoon of the liquid concentrate and I intend to do this daily with 2 days off as you suggest. 1. Is this dosage ok? 2. How would you recommend -if you do- to increase the dosage? 2. How much Boron is there in 1 teaspoon of liquid Borax concentrate? 2. How much would be the maximum safe dosage per day -in teaspoons? 3. How long does Boron take to have a noticeable effect or to build up in the body? Thank you in advance for your kind reply. Best Regards, Eduardo SPAIN
I don't know how much boron is in the concentrate. What I do know is it most boron concentrate isn't too much. I expect to have effect one month on the average.
I've been taking 1 teaspoonful twice daily of a concentrated solution of one teaspoonful of borax to a litre of water and supplement this with magnesium. I usually put my dose into half a litre of cold green tea which I consume during the morning, and do the same in the evening.
I noticed an improvement in my general health after a few weeks and a great improvement after a few months. My claudication has improved greatly and my mind is so much clearer. I am 70. My mobility has also improved greatly. I've had no adverse effects from borax.
What is the rationale for diluting borax in so much water – a litre of water? Do you really need that much water?
Hello, I am amazed with the contradictory info about Sodium Tetraborate B4Na2O7 10H2O, on the package is saying WARNING/DANGER/TOXIC.
My questions are: Is this the right one? How come people use this for healing?
If you find the time, I would appreciate your reply.
Thanks, kind regards, Sandra
Sandra: I take 250mg borax/day.
Hi Sandra, I have been using borax for years & I also use it to kill cockroaches. It is a very old remedy. So do not be afraid.
I think the dilution is to avoid getting to much NaCl (table salt) in your tummy. The Borax reacts with the HCl in your stomach to form Boric acid (H3BO3) and NaCl. If you drink salt water at too high a concentration, you will vomit. I would surmise, then that if you take Borax at too high a concentration, you would also vomit from the resultant salt water.
When I first started reading about this cure in 2008, I found the original instructions that were on the Borax box, which included dosages for cures. Don't be afraid of it; just don't confuse Borax with boric acid. You want the Borax from the laundry aisle.
As I recall, Ted recommended it that way for convenience – you sip it throughout the day – and for the peace of mind of people who were nervous about drinking something they percieved as potentially dangerous. It is even more safe diluted and drunk gradually. You would also be able to detox more gradually I would think.
Hi TrudyG and all others suffering from insomnia,
I also have opposite reactions to pharmacy drugs, OTC & Rx. Three things have helped me ENORMOUSLY, and all of them don’t seem to be mentioned in this thread: http://www.earthclinic.com/cures/insomnia6.html#MR_100360
First, taking a nightly capsule of organic borage oil, regular dose, an hour before bed got me deeply asleep, deeply dreaming, and very calm/confident-feeling the next day. It does take about 3 weeks for most people to have results, although I seem to recall it was more like 10 days for me. After a while I ran out and forgot to take it, only remembered while reading here.
Next, I got an inversion table. You can set it so that you start with a relatively low angle of inversion, by tying the strap underneath–say, 20-30 degrees for at least 10 minutes. That feels like plenty to me. If your heart is lower than your feet by 17 degrees, apparently the lymph glands release and clear. Other benefits I’ve noticed: practically no asthma, NO INSOMNIA, back pain decreased and overall well-being increased. Not to mention, better circulation.
However I am forgetful so the latest thing I take is borax. This is actually covered in depth at http://educate-yourself.org/cn/boraxconspiracy03jul12.shtml.
In my case, I was looking for help with my out-of-control restless legs syndrome, which, on the first day, diminished almost to nothing (now my Requip prescription of. 25 mg is more than sufficient, where before even 1mg spaced throughout the day barely controlled it. ).
Now I take the borax right before sleep, and I sleep deeply and w/o interruption for 8plus hrs. And I wake up feeling crisp! Also my asthma, which had me audibly wheezing prior to the borax, is slowly disappearing. It’s also a fabulous detoxer, and is anti-microbial and perhaps also alkalining too.
At first I took the Borax in the morning, but after 3 weeks, it started to make me very sleepy so I switched to bedtime. It’s very fast-acting–one minute I’m lying in bed wide awake, wondering when it’s going to start knocking me out, and the next minute, I’m so deeply asleep I haven’t even noticed I was getting sleepy, it’s so immediate a response.
My friends who are also taking borax find that they have more energy. I MAY be feeling more energetic, but the stuff still knocks me out, so experiment on a laid-back, no-driving-etc-day to see how it affects you.
The other reason I was taking borax is that it balances the whole body’s hormone, endocrine, and glandular system over time. I’ve been taking it now for at least 3 months. I’ve increased my dose to a tablespoon (from a teaspoon). Just last week it seemed to me that my post-menopausal dryness was no longer an issue. I intend to continue taking this forever.
Oh yes, another borax good result: my neighbor, 70 yrs old, fell off a horse and broke 2 ribs. Since he won’t go to doctors, I gave him some borax. He says his ribs healed fast, and with much less pain than the other times they have broken.
Dosing excerpts from midway through the link at beginning of this post:
Firstly, dissolve a lightly rounded teaspoonful (5-6 grams) of borax in 1 litre of good quality water* free of chlorine and fluoride. This is your concentrated solution. Keep the bottle out of reach of small children. (* I”m using distilled water)
Standard dose = 1 teaspoon (5 ml) of concentrate. This has 25 to 30 mg of borax and provides about 3 mg of boron. Take 1 dose per day mixed with drink or food. If that feels right then take a second dose with another meal. If there is no specific health problem or as a maintenance dose you may continue indefinitely with 1 or 2 doses daily. “
(elsewhere in my reading people taking the borax-in-water cure seem to take it for 5 days, stop for 2, then start again for 5 days, off for 2 days, and so on. )
“If you do have a problem, such as arthritis, osteoporosis and related conditions, menopause, stiffness due to advancing years, and also to improve low sex hormone production, increase intake to 3 or more spaced-out standard doses for several months or longer until you feel that your problem has sufficiently improved. Then drop back to 1 or 2 doses per day. “
BTW… Trazodone HCL does work for my insomnia. At first I had to double-dose but now I can take 1/4 pill and that will also knock me out…. But why bother when borax is much safer and helps with so many cures. ……………
Last I would like to thank Joy and Everyone about mentioning the water cure. I think adding the right salt will help w my frequent urination, thirst, and allergies. Had forgotten that histamine is a dehydration response. Beginning to wonder if I was developing diabetes. Would diabetes show up in a hair sample?
I have yet to find any discussion on how long of a period of time it is safe to take 1/4 teaspoon of Borax per liter of water. I have been doing 4 days on and 3 days off to help raise my PH while taking many other natural remedies to kill my H. Pylori. I like the idea of raising my PH that I would like to know a recommended maintenence plan for the rest of my life using Borax. For example is it safe to have a little every day or continue to do 4 days on and 3 days off? Also, is it too hard on the body to do the sodium carbonate and sodium bicarbonate while using the Borax for the rest of my life?
I had asked a question and did not hear back. Would you please take the time to let me know your opinion on the long term use and doseages of drinking borox? It makes my joints hurt. Also what dosage do you recommend for long term use of sodium bicarbonate mixed with sodium carbonate?
Hey Chris, Regarding dosages. Borax is pretty safe at low dosages. Its toxicity is lower than table salt. You’d have to be taking a lot before things would dtart to go wrong for you health-wise. As a guide: if you dissolve a level teaspoon (5ml) of borax in a litre of water and then consume 5ml of that per day then you are taking in somewhere in the region of 7mg of borax per day. That’s okay for a maintenance dose. Your 1/4 teaspoon is low but perfectly fine too.
My best advice is to start low and then really learn to listen to your body. Listen to how it feels. Pick up the dosage a little and then see. Trust yourself and your body. You’ll do fine.
Good health to you! Badabing
Hi Ted, and anyone else out there, thanks again for sharing all your wonderful experiences and knowledge!
I wanted to know if borax at the 1/8 teaspoon in 1 lt of water taken 3 to 4 days a week over three weeks is too much for an elderly person?
My mum is 87 yrs suffering from chronic arthritis and pneumonia, last year we thought we would lose her at the hands of the hospital due to the excessive amounts of drugs. I would like to try it with her before winter returns.
The reason I ask is I know it’s highly alkaline and Dr Sircus mentions in his book for Bicarb therapies not to take more than 3 x 1/2 teaspoon bicarb per day if over 60. ( I assumed it was due to the alkalinity) and wondered if it’s the same with Borax.
Hi Maria, I personally would be careful with that amount of borax for someone your mother’s age. If she starts to detox from heavy metals too rapidly, it might cause her to weaken considerably. How about considering the homeopathic dosage of borax instead of the powder?
Maria, I don’t think I would be giving my 87 year old mother borax. I would keep to foods.
Apple Cider vinegar (1-2 tablespoons in a big glass of water) and lemon juice every morning in warm water are both good for arthritis. They both dissolve the calcium deposits around the arthritic joints. If you have ever had a kettle that calcified and cleaned it with vinegar you can see how it dissolves calcified things.
I don’t know whether borax is organic or inorganic. If it is inorganic the body cannot utilise it. Apple cider vinegar and lemon juice are organic and have many health benefits apart from being good for arthritis.
http://www.health-science-spirit.com/borax.htm: The article details the arthritis dosages, it’s only 30 miligrams per day. Way less than 1/4 or 1/8 teaspoon.
Sandra said “If it is inorganic the body cannot utilise it.”
I’m sorry Sandra but that is incorrect. The word “organic” is oft misunderstood and misused. In this context it basically refers to mollecules containing carbon. So table salt (NaCl), for example, is inorganic. You wouldn’t wish to have me believe that the body cannot utilise salt, would you? Our bodies would die without a whole host of micronutirents which are all inorganic.
The other definition of “organic” is a descriptor of farming practices (not using artificial pesticides and fertilizers). Though this too is a vastly misuderstood topic it does not apply here.
In brief then: borax is an inorganic compound of sodium, boron and oxygen. When it is ingested the body uses particularly the boron as a vital micronutient as we get enough sodium from other sources.
Maria said “I wanted to know if borax at the 1/8 teaspoon in 1 lt of water taken 3 to 4 days a week over three weeks is too much for an elderly person?”
Maria, I think that sounds fine. You’ll be starting your mum on a very low dose so you can see how she goes. At such a low dosage you are extremely unlikely to get adverse symptoms (as might happen from a too fast heavy-metal chelation or a too fast die-off of candida or other pathogens). Then, as her body acclimatizes you can slowly up the dose. You can comfortably take it up to as much as 1 teaspoon per litre – just don’t give her more than a teaspoon of the mixture per day. See how this goes. You can keep her at that level for years with no problems but you can also drop it back down to a lower maintenance dose later.
Dude said “only 30 miligrams per day. Way less than 1/4 or 1/8 teaspoon.”
Dude, the recommended dosage is perhaps a 1 teaspoon of borax in a litre of water of which only 1 teaspoon is taken per day. This will deliver about 7mg effective dosage per day which is good for healing most boron-deficiency diseases. Once health is regained then one can go down to about 1/4 teaspoon for a maintenance dose.
Hi, I am wanting to know, do I drink one teaspoon a day of the diluted borax in one litre of water or do I drink a whole litre of water with 1/8 of borax. A few different theories.
I learned about medicinal borax from a friend last week who spoke at a gut health class we've been doing. She said to make a solution of 1 tsp borax in 1 liter warm water. Then to take 1 tsp several times a day. I've been adding it to my drinking water along with diatemaceous earth, raw apple cider vinegar and sole (salt water made with salt rock). Haven't exceeded twice a day yet as I wanted to see how my body reacted. I've already been detoxing from other things. So far so good. Would love to learn more about this.
Thanks for that comment – I was about to respond with the same but you did so very well. There is quite a bit of misunderstanding out there in regards to nutrition – not everyone takes chemistry in college. As a microbiologist I try to offer some information in regards to yeast infection and normalizing gut flora. Much is lost to people of the order generation that did not have the advantage of education our kids have today – basic biology and chemistry principles are now taught at junior high levels. Hopefully they'll have a solid grasp of these kind of things an will be capable of choosing alternative healing practices with understanding and confidence.
Hi Ted, I’m considering the Borax regime for Mycoplasma and / or Ankylosing Spondylitis (AS). When checking a suitable dosage I stumbled upon this link – Effect of borax on immune cell proliferation:
AS is considered an auto immune disorder and I’d really like to hear your comments.
I’ve learned so much from Earth Clinic. Thanks. 🙂
I would be interested to know Ted’s response to this question as I too, suffer from AS. Thanks!
As to dosages, please check previous postings on borax toxicity I been through that so many times. If you are still not convinced, then don’t do it. As to the link you submitted, borax according to them is toxic at 0.6 mg/ml — that is equivalent in drinking terms 600 grams per liter. That is hardly the dose I am considering. The dosage I use is 1/8 to 1/4 teaspoon (women requires low dose 1/8 then men 1/4 because of their size) per liter of water. That means it is added in all liters you drink and you determine if that remedy is helping you, and it doesn’t require a long time, you should know within 3 to 7 days at the most. It is an essential mineral and the dose is much less than LD50. I calculate my dose assuming you weigh only one kilogram and need just 1/2 of that is my calculations for maximum dose and it is lower still if the person has any side effects on that amount. Therefore, the dose of 1/8 for women’s dose is based on that.
As to details of ankylosing spondylitis, I don’t have many patients here, probably I seen one or two. What I can conclude with certainty is it helps. The autoimmune disease for all mycoplasma and mycobacterium is really simple, the mycobacterium enters healthy cells and infects the inner cells, that’s why is is so difficult to kill it and that is why they referred to as attacking healthy cells, but they are not healthy. Suppressing immune system would hardly be the way to go.
However there are a couple of avenues I found where we can kill them from the inside. Remember that nearly all antibiotics are useless with attacking the inside the cells they do not enter the insides of cells. There is one or two antibiotics that does get inside the cells – one is doxycycline the second one is minocycline. For the desperate I guess they will even try the second one. The doxycycline use is a lot better, which is one capsule and twice a day for the first time, and thereby once a day it takes about a week to know some effect but the people here it takes them only a day. Minocycline is a generally not recommended because of side effects, but those who do not respond will try it anyway. It causes nausea.
As to the borax, you can mix with hydrogen peroxide 3% one capful per 1 liter of water and 1/8 teaspoon. It hardly has any side effects, unless you have other issues, such as metal poisoning, in that case we treat metal poisoning first such as mercury poisoning amalgam or lead poisoning, in which case I prefer to use disodium EDTA or my favorite tetra Sodium EDTA, as it is less acidic. Without the metal poisoning it will be a bit easier by skipping this step and add take borax with hydrogen peroxide. In order to allow the body some breathing room between oxidation and anti-oxidation, you can try hydrogen peroxide for 5 days and no hydrogen peroxide for 2 days, and borax for all days.
The other way I have developed of killing the infection from the inside the cells is DMSO and Lugol’s with aloe vera oil applied from the outside. That works too. There is also another method I have tried which is Castor oil with DMSO, that works too. And then if he doesn’t respond to that one, this respond positively no matter what is the DMSO with tannic acid, where tannic acid is given at 1/8 teaspoon per 100 cc of DMSO and mixed with 30% to 50% water. As to the castor oil and DMSO is mixed with 50% each. As to the Lugol’s and DMSO it’s just applying Lugol’s the area and then apply DMSO, then to relieve the inflammation I apply the aloe vera oil.
That’s just the initial success then to help you way to recovery I probably require aloe vera oil drops between 5 to 10 drops, magnesium chloride solution 8 drops three times a day, and some 5000 i.u. of vitamin D2 or vitamin D3.
There is one thing you have to be aware of, normal antibiotics takes 9 months that’s just for doxycycline. so I expected any natural remedies would take that long too, because mycobacterium that lines the inside the cells takes time, but if you do things right it may require less time.
In Bangkok things are a little strange. I chase clients because I think I have a cure, but people from Earthclinic at least, they are chasing me! There’s probably an explanation in order as to why this occurs. It seems as if people here have the cure or at least something that will help them for their condition and therefore I am just drowned by other competitors! Since competition usually wins out (hospitals and other alternative healers) I spend my day typing out remedies if I have a free time.
P.S. The website mentioned in your post is administering a toxic dose even at 0.1 mg per milliliter works out to 100 mg per 100 milliliter works out to 1000 grams per 1000 milliliter. My dose is 1/8 teas per 1000 milliter or 1 liter.
Thanks Ted for your detailed response. I dont like the thought of antibiotic treatment as I know how important the bacteria in my gut is to my entire system and would prefer to go ‘naturally’. So, after much research on EC, I am going to attempt the following regime to try to kill mycoplasma and alleviate my Ankylosing Spondylitis. Colloidial Silver, EDTA, Borax & Hydrogen Perioxide, followed by Calcium Bentonite then MSM (cannot purchase DSMO) with Lugols transdermally. Aloe, D3, etc to assist healing. Will let you know the outcome. Thanks again. Lee
Hi again Ted. I’ve done more research on sourcing DSMO as I’m concerned that using MSM instead of DSMO will make a difference in the regime??? However, I found this patent also dealing with sulfoxides FYI. Kind regards.
Can I just double check with anyone that can answer-I have recently discovered this site and have read about Borax and so ordered some from ebay. Labelled BORAX (Sodium Tetraborate) -Decahydrate.
This is definitely ok to ingest… At the recommended dosage of 1/8th of a teaspoon per litre of water?
Sounds great-just wanna check there are no dangers. Thanks!
Hi Simon, Yes, however weird it may seen to ingest something people use as a laundry detergent, it is safe. I have been using 1/8 tsp for quite a while now. I will usually go for a few weeks, then take a few days off. It has pretty much cured my knee pain. I highly recommend it.
Ted wrote: “06/23/2011: Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: “As to dosages, please check previous postings on borax toxicity I been through that so many times. If you are still not convinced, then don’t do it. As to the link you submitted, borax according to them is toxic at 0. 6 mg/ml — that is equivalent in drinking terms 600 grams per liter“
Your conversion is way off…0.6mg/ml is equivalent in drinking terms to 600mg(not grams)/liter. An amount much smaller than you converted it to.
In addition, Ted further mentions: “
P.S. The website mentioned in your post is administering a toxic dose even at 0. 1 mg per milliliter works out to 100 mg per 100 milliliter works out to 1000 grams per 1000 milliliter. My dose is 1/8 teas per 1000 milliter or 1 liter.”
???Wha?…Again, 0.1mg/ml works out to 100mg (not grams) per 1000ml. How much does 1/8 teas. Weigh?
If you’re going to be giving dosages and toxicity information you should really get your conversions correct! Your two errors are off by a factor of 1000!
According to THE PDR[Physicians Desk Reference] for Nutritional Supplements, “consuming greater than 180 mg elemental boron daily showed symptoms of poor appetite and digestive problems. Symptoms of acute toxicity typically include nausea, diarrhea and abdominal cramps. The symptoms of chronic toxicity include nausea, poor appetite and weight loss…. Optimal intake may be 2 to 3 mg[no Dietary reference intake has yet been established for boron]”
How much elemental boron does your suggested dosage contain? Borax is approximately 11% boron, which means that even a small dose of 100mg of borax is supplying 11mg of boron, which is about 5 times the optimal suggested intake according to the PDR. Too much boron daily will accumulate over time.
How about the way borax reacts when it hits stomach acid (HCl)? Were you aware that the reaction creates boric acid?
Na2B4O7 ·10H2O 2 HCl %u2192 4 B(OH)3 [or H3BO3] 2 NaCl 5 H2O
Could explain the symptoms of acute toxicity.
If borax is so “safe”, why has it been banned in the US as a food additive. Indonesia has connected the use of borax in the food industry to liver cancer with prolonged usage/digestion (5-10 years).
Promoting this “remedy” for metal detoxing is foolish and irresponsible, especially when there are so many safer and more effective alternatives. How about Cilantro/Parsley Pesto for metal detox, or Golden Seal for fluoride detox? These food based remedies are much less speculative and risky for your visitors.
Not saying boron is unimportant for bone health, just that borax should be saved for external and household uses, especially since there’s no way to monitor one’s accumulation of boron/borax/boric acid except by paying attention to symptoms…. which could easily be mistaken for the flu, rather than chronic boron toxicity from long term use.
A quick Google check reveals that a teaspoon is equivalent to 5 ml. At 1/4 tsp a day for men, that means an ingestion of only 1. 25 ml per day. For women the recommended usage is half that amount.
This is in the order of 1% of the theoretical toxic dose – hardly threatening.
Colleen, if you are fact checking, then you should check all relevant facts.
I have spent so much time trying to make sense of the precise dosages for Borax. It is very clearly reccommended that it is 1/8 teaspoon for women and 1/4 teaspoon for men (in a litre of water sipped throughout the day). Can someone give a precise weight in milligrams for 1/4 teaspoon and 1/8 teaspoon as the information on this site suggests 250mg to 1000mg for 1/4 teaspoon. Perhaps we have varying teaspoons but I also suspect that some people are deliberately providing contradictory/confusing information as they represent big pharma interests. Please clear this issue up please. In the interest of safety and accuracy we should not use rough measurements such as spoons, cups, a glass etc.
I personally would stay away from borax, there are many other good options here to clear up your aliments.
I have known people who have treated themselves succesfully with Borax. That is the reason I wanted to try it. The problem is that they all took different dosages. I simply wanted to follow an established protocol. What is 1/4 teaspoon in milligrams? The difference on this site has varied enormously. Experienced users! Please Help. Thanks.
I think it is worth highlighting that the dosages mentioned by that study I. E. 0.1mg/ml – 0.6mg/ml refers to concentrations of borax in BLOOD not WATER. Given that borax is very poorly absorbed and we have approx 4200ml of blood in our bodies, it would need huge quantities of borax ingested to approach anywhere near the concentrations suggested by that experiment.
For Taquir, I measured 1/8 teaspoon and 1/4 teaspoon amounts of 20 Mule Team Borax from the local grocery on a Precision Professional Digital Mini Scale ____ (This scale cost me about $30. retail in Florida, USA).
Since lumps in the Borax are compacted and Borax is a comparatively heavy substance, I mashed the lumps in the Borax powder loose before measuring (Clearly from the following measurements I must have missed a few tinies though). Since this Borax has about the same toxicity as table salt, I am sure the minute difference is negligible in effect.
My procedure was: Wack the lumps, fill the scoop, level off the scoop, then pour contents of the scoop into tare container and measure weight. The tare container was cleared of debris before each measurement.
Here are my measurement results:
1/4 teaspoon 20 Mule Team weighs .73 grams, or 730 milligrams
1/8 teaspoon 20 Mule Team weighs.34 grams, or 340 milligrams
So Bangkok Ted recommends 1/4 teaspoon Borax per litre of water for men, and 1/8 teaspoon Borax per litre of water for women.
Am I the only one questioning all these remedies coming from one person only? It’s great Ted gives his opinion and maybe tried successfully the borax way. I just wonder why there is no other professional opinion (not from pharma paid doctors but alternative health practioners).
I agree many suggestion are great but others I am not sure and it does raise question why everyone would just trust one person and go buy borax in laundry section. At least I’ve seen a couple of confused peopel on here.
To Rouven from NY:
You see a lot of posting on here to Ted because his recommendations have helped many here.
Dr. Rex Newnham who first investigated the relation between Boron and Arthritus was using 60 mg Borax per day in his studies.
The Royal australian Hospital in Melbourne was also using 60 mg Borax per day in their 1980’s studies which showed a 70% success rate for a group of people aged 55-74.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boron…”Elemental boron, boron oxide, boric acid, borates, and many organoboron compounds are non-toxic to humans and animals (approximately similar to table salt). The LD50 (dose at which there is 50% mortality) for animals is about 6 g per kg of body weight. Substances with LD50 above 2 g are considered non-toxic. The minimum lethal dose for humans has not been established. An intake of 4 g/day of boric acid was reported without incidents, but more than this is considered toxic for more than a few doses. Intakes of more than 0. 5 grams per day for 50 days cause minor digestive and other problems suggestive of toxicity. Nielsen, Forrest H. (1997). Plant and Soil 193″
So I would suggest that it is not neccessary to use ten times what the above researchers were using. Instead, results should be seen using only 1/16 teaspoon and it will be considerably safer.
I'm with Rouven…I'm trying the 1/8th in a quart….but I want to know why aren't any current medics/biochemists looking into this? They can't all be scared off by the big pharmaceutical companies. It would be good to read a report by a current scientist. It doesn't make sense. If anyone knows of anyone please let me know. If something does cure it should be in the public domain rather than hidden here in a dark cupboard. Everyone should be allowed to benefit…
Big pharma make billions in profit from keeping us all ill so they can supply us with their chemical medications and vaccinations. They are so powerful that any threat to profit margins due to people or products trying to offer cures will be bumped off and removed.
Healthy humans means no neeed for big pharmas meds leading to no massive profits. The queen is the head of the pharma corps so that gives an idea who we are up against.
Its only in recent years that the EU classified borax as toxic, but they left out that toxicity only applied to unborn babies! & so is bleach toxic deadly to unborns aswel as humans and animals full stop!!
A man in 1960's tried to find bigger outlets to help him supply borax as a arthritic cure when the demand for his discovery supplying masses of local people with the borax dosages in med form became bigger than he could handle, so unwittingly approaced people he thought would help ease his medicine demands by mass production and manufacturing. These people were the wrong help as they had vested interest in profits selling synthetic meds to a never ending supply of patients they kept ill, so they shut him up and took away his discovery.
Here is the story…
The Arthritis Cure of Rex Newnham
In the 1960's Rex Newnham, Ph.D., D.O., N.D, developed arthritis. At that time he was a soil and plant scientist in Perth, Western Australia. Conventional drugs did not help, so he looked for the cause into the chemistry of plants. He realized that plants in that area were rather mineral deficient. Knowing that boron aids calcium metabolism in plants he decided to try it. He started taking 30 mg of borax a day, and in three weeks all pain, swelling and stiffness had disappeared.
He told public health and medical school authorities about his discovery but they were not interested. However, some people with arthritis were delighted as they improved. Others were scared to take something with a poison label on the container and meant to kill cockroaches and ants. Eventually he had tablets made with a safe and effective quantity of borax.
Within five years and only by word of mouth he sold 10,000 bottles a month. He could no longer cope and asked a drug company to market it. That was a major mistake. They indicated that this would replace more expensive drugs and reduce their profits. It so happened that they had representatives on government health committees and arranged that in 1981 Australia instituted a regulation that declared boron and its compounds to be poisons in any concentration. He was fined $1000 for selling a poison, and this successfully stopped his arthritis cure from spreading in Australia.
(2)Subsequently he published several scientific papers on borax and arthritis. One was a double-blind trial in the mid 1980's at the Royal Melbourne Hospital which showed that 70% of those who completed the trial were greatly improved. Only 12% improved when on placebo. There were no negative side-effects, but some reported that their heart ailment had also improved, and there was better general health and less tiredness.
(3) Most of his later research was devoted to the relationship between soil boron levels and arthritis. He found, for instance that the traditional sugarcane islands, due to long-term heavy use of fertilizers, have very low soil-boron levels. Jamaica has the lowest level and arthritis rates are about 70%. He noted that even most dogs were limping. Next comes Mauritius with very low boron levels and 50% arthritis. The daily boron intake in these countries is less than 1 mg/day. An interesting comparison is between Indian and native Fijians. The Indians are estimated to have an arthritis rate of about 40% and eat much rice grown with fertilizer while the native Fijians with an estimated arthritis rate of 10% eat mainly starchy root vegetables grown privately without fertilizer.
Cont……..from below linked website…………….
Taken from this very informative website:
The Borax Conspiracy
How the Arthritis Cure has been Stopped
Hope you find useful
You ask for some scientific report or study by scientists on Boron. A VERY scientific BOOK on the subject can be downloaded via “Google Scholar”…. key words; Boron Science.
That is the book title. Be prepared for an immersion in chemistry.
If that doesn't impress you…nothing will.
100mg in 100ml makes in 1000ml =1000mg and 0.6mg per 1ml. make 600mg in 1000ml. Am I wrong???
To linda, using, the weights you gave of of 730 mg/1/4 and 340mg1/8 I came up w apx 73mg and 34mg. the borax is 11% boron so I just rounded to a decimal point for 10%. I hope it is close enough.
Hi I have nothing against borax but just so you know what levels are harmful or have adverse effects I wanted to post this abstract from a study in the area. I would be keen to hear feedback, I unfortunatly can’t access the study myself without paying to see it. So the limited information I have attained from this study is that you are safe to use borax as long as you can keep the levels at 175 ppm as (boron equivalent).
What sort of dose that is I do not know and would not like to go over it.
Now I have heard it is a great chemical for chelation of metals. Does it also chelate fluorides? This is really my main interest as fluorides are recommended to be kept below a certain level and evidence suggests I would be surpassing this. Not that I would no how to test this to be true.
One last comment the zeolite clinoptilite sounds brilliant for taking the heavy metals, I have done little research into it, all thoughts and responses welcome. Thank you
Here’s the abstract:
In Sprague-Dawley rats the acute po LD50 values for borax were 4.5 g/kg and 4.98 g/kg in males and females. respectively; boric acid, 3.45 g/kg in males and 4.08 g/kg in females. In Long-Evans male rats the LD50 values for borax and boric acid were 6.08 g/kg and 3.16 g/kg, respectively. In 90 day feeding studies, rats tolerated both borax and boric acid at 525 ppm boron equivalent. Dogs displayed no adverse effect at 175 ppm of borax (as boron equivalent) and 525 ppm of boric acid (as boron equivalent). In rats, high boron levels at 1750 and 5250 ppm of both compounds caused growth suppression, decreased food utilization efficiency, degeneration of gonads and skin desquamation on the paws and tails. At the 1750 ppm level, both boron compounds produced testicular atrophy in all male dogs. Two year dietary feeding studies indicated that both borax and boric acid could be tolerated by rats and dogs at 350 ppm boron equivalent. Rats fed dietary boron compounds at 1170 ppm levels showed toxic signs which were found to be similar to those observed in subchronic studies. Testicular degeneration was also observed in rats and dogs fed 1170 ppm levels. Reproduction studies revealed that rats fed both borax and boric acid at 1170 ppm boron equivalent were sterile. Both compounds at 350 ppm boron equivalent had no adverse effect on fertility, lactation, litter size, weight and appearance.
If you compare the borax LD50 (median lethal dose) values to that of ordinary table salt, you will get some clarity as to the comparable toxicity of Borax. Here is the LD50 values for the oral toxicity of table salt in a rat study:
LD50 is 3000 mg/kg in rats.
Link to MSDS sheet for salt:http://msds.chem.ox.ac.uk/SO/sodium_chloride.html
So when compared to the LD50 figures for borax (from the last post) this means that borax appears to be of a similar toxicity to rats as ordinary table salt. Anything above LD50 2000 mg/kgm is generally regarded as Low Toxicity.
Borax was used to remove fluoride poisoning in a Rabbit study given toxic doses of fluoride. Boron is also a required mineral. The doses of boric acid (which is more toxic then borax) in the study quoted is estimated at doses of roughly 4.5 g to 4.90 grams/kg, would be equivalent of taking boric acid (which equivalent) in a typical 70 kg adult of 4.5×70 grams to 4.98 x 70 grams. The idea of fluoride removal using borax was based on a toxicity research on giving fluoride at toxic dose, rabbits fed on borax were protected from the fluoride poisoning. If there is difficulty in using fluoride or obtaining them, it’s possible to eat tamarind which is also an good chelation agent of fluoride too, however, borax has a unique property in being less toxic then boric acid, and it’s alkaline, but it’s also a required mineral and normalizes hormone level. Different studies used higher LD50 on borax toxicity, but I used a much lower figures about 2 grams/kg, where the toxicity is equivalent to salt, which has a value roughly 2 grams/kg weight also. A chelation agent of mineral I can use humic acid, zeolite, or a mixture of humic acid and zeolite together also. However, humic acid interestingly enough lowers excitotoxicity (aspartate and glutamate) that’s found high in ALS (Lou Gehrig’s Disease) and aspartame poisoning, found in many sugar free products, one interesting side effect is the desire to pee every 30 minutes or so throughout the day. It takes about 1-4 weeks to remove this extreme urinary urgency. Fluoride on the other hand has a suppressive effect, but both together cause (with aspartame) caused extreme sleeplessness and apathy at even low doses, found in fluoridation and fluoridated toothpaste. As to whether borax removes or chelate fluoride, the idea of chelation requires more chemical analysis at a molecular level, and i can’t find a research study on that one. However, there is increase in fluoride excretion when borax for example, implying the removal of fluoride, and possibly chelation of fluoride. In which case the level of toxic reaction to fluoride is removed whenever fluoride is taken at toxic doses, and using the borax, for example, as the antidote. The idea of using borax is based on subacute doses of luoride poisoning, which is a common one given the excessive fluoride consumption, is based on this study:
Fluoride 1981; 14(1):21-29
Boron as antidote to fluoride: effect on bones and claws in subacute intoxication of rabbits
Elsair J, Merad R, Denine R, Azzouz M, Khelfat K, Hamrour M, Alamir B, Benali S, Reggabi M
Laboratories of Physiology, Toxicology and Galenic Pharmacy, Medical Institute, Algiers, Algeria
Summary: Rabbits were “subacutely” intoxicated by administration of 30 mg/kg/day of fluoride for 3 months followed by 15 mg/kg/day for a subsequent 3 months (F). Boron was given alone (B) as preventive and simultaneously with fluoride prophylactically (F + Bp), as well as therapeutically namely midway during the experimental period (F + Bpc) while fluoride was being administered and after it was discontinued (Bc compared with fluoirde interuption F*), at a constant F/B ratio. All groups were compared to normal controls.
Boron administered during fluoride intoxication or after its interruption, reduces fluoremia and increases urinary fluoride excretion. Skeletal fluoride levels are directly relatd to those of claws. They bear no relationship to fluoride in hair. The high fluoride content in bone in lot F decreases with addition of boron. It is still high in lot F* but returns to normal in loc Bc. Calcium content of bones remains normal in all lots. Posterior pad radiography shows a cortical thickness in lot F which is less pronounced in lots F + Bpc and F*, and returns to normal in lot Bc.—————————–
If a person were to take very high amounts of fluoride, then you need a combination of other remedies including tamarind, and grinded seeds of tamarind, which is also used to detox fluoride in the environment, especially the tamarind seed powder, or possibly tamarind seed extract. Unfortunately tamarind is a food and is not a required mineral as in boron, so it’s considered a fruit, but can also be used to remove fluoride. Tamarind is a common candy in Thailand and is easily available here and is used in preparing various food delicacy here in Thailand also. It’s not possible to prove the chelation of fluoride per se, but researchers assume they do, and from a practical point of view, as a consumer, it reduces fluoride toxicity and subacute doses, and that I find it just fine for most applications.
Question to Ted re borax dosage which stated: 2gms/kg.
For example, a 180# person would take approx. 6ozs of borax per liter of water per day for how long? Is there a maint dose? Also tamarind is avail at most asian markets as a paste which is sour or I prefer the raw whole tamarind in their pods which is sweet. Thank you Ted
DO NOT TAKE ANY BORAX UNTIL YOU UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH TO TAKE!! Where on earth did you get 6 ounces?? from? It's wrong and scary that you would even contemplate this amount.
2 gms/kg is the TOXIC level, NOT the therapeutic level. If you check out the borax page, Ted recommends 1/8 teaspoon to 1/4 teaspoon of borax in one liter of water/day.
Correct me if I am wrong:
1/8 tablespoon of borax in one litre. — Is it consuming only 1 litre with borax or I can continue to drink this solution throughout the day.
Any luck of getting borax in India?? Pls let me know if you had success.
you can safely have up to 14mg a day and it is cheapest bought generally from USA supplement stores from what I can see… Of course 14mg covers small adults, so really around 20mg is fair if you are large… up the dose if you need to… it’s all good.
I don't have the money to buy expensive fluoride filters or repeatedly buy gallons of distilled water from the store, but I'd still like to fluoride detox. I read on a different site that it is not recommended to put borax in plain tap water because it will just bind in the water and your body won't get the benefits. But if it binds in the water wouldn't that then make the water essentially fluoride free? Or does that only work in theory? If it DOES make water fluoride free couldn't I then use this new water to make the concentrate, or will the borax just continue to bind to the borax-fluoride particles?
If I do use tap water and it does bind to the fluoride before I drink it will I still get other health benefits but just not the detox effect?
Thank you for your time!
NOT FRACTIONS OF A TABLESPOON — FRACTIONS OF TEASPOON!!!
There are 3 Teaspoons in a Tablespoon.
a Tablespoon is 3X Bigger!
Ted is saying:
1/8 TEA-Spoon in a Quart of Water drinken slowly through the day for Women (My add: and maybe smaller Men.)
1/4 TEA-Spoon in a Quart of Water drinken slowly throughout the day for MEN (My add: and maybe LARGER Women.)
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