Borax is gaining popularity as an effective natural remedy for many health concerns. Borax contains boron, which is an element the body requires. Boron helps bones to be strong. It helps the body properly utilize other nutrients. Restoring boron to the body through borax can be part of the solution for health problems like arthritis, joint problems, athlete’s foot and some autoimmune diseases. However, borax is not without side effects for some people.
Side Effects of Borax Detergent
Side effects can include the following:
- Burning skin
- Nerve pain
- Diarrhea
- Itching skin
- Rapid heart rate
- Sweating
- Nausea
- Cramping
- Kidney pain
- Headache
- Anxiety
- Depression
- Worsening of PMS Symptoms
Why Does Borax Cause Side Effects?
Borax can cause a detox reaction in the body. This is likely to cause headaches and flu like symptoms.
Borax affects hormones. It can increase estradiol (an estrogen) and testosterone. Any time that hormones are fluctuating mood changes, anxiety, depression, and exacerbation of PMS symptoms can result.
Borax may help the body remove parasites, which will, in turn cause some symptoms of toxin release.
Borax may cause side effects if too much is taken at once, or not enough water is used.
How Can I Avoid Borax Side Effects?
Always start with less and increase the amount slowly to make sure that the body is adjusting well to a new routine.
Use plenty of water with the borax protocol. This will properly dilute the borax and will also give the body the needed fluids to flush itself out.
Take a magnesium supplement. Borax side effects are more pronounced in those who have low magnesium levels.
What Can I Do to Relieve Borax Side Effects?
Take activated charcoal to relieve digestive distress or flu-like symptoms that result from borax side effects. Charcoal will adsorb toxins and settle the digestive system.
Consume plenty of water or herbal tea to keep toxins flushing out of the system.
Take an Epsom salt bath. This will provide the body with needed magnesium and relax the body.
If you have used borax topically and had a skin reaction, Castor oil or apple cider vinegar can be used to relieve the reaction. Castor oil is massaged into the skin. Or 1 cup apple cider vinegar can be added to a tub of warm water and used for a bath. The apple cider vinegar bath will help to restore proper pH to the skin.
If Borax Causes Side Effects, Why Bother?
While some experience side effects from the use of borax, hundreds of Earth Clinic readers over the years have reported cures using borax. Borax is used for a wide range of symptoms, including arthritis, candida, athlete’s foot, brain fog, chicken pox, colds, mites, lice, lupus, sinus problems and skin problems. And an impressive number of dogs and other animals have been cured of mange with Ted’s Mange Cure. Borax is the key ingredient in Ted’s Mange Cure.
The chemical name of borax is tetrasodium borate. It is indeed the very same borax that is found in pharmacies and in grocery stores in the laundry aisle. Please be sure to make sure that borax is the only ingredient. While some worry about the toxicity of borax, it is believed that borax is less toxic than table salt. However, if you experience side effects, it is always wise to discontinue use and re-evaluate your treatment plan.
Is there an Alternative to Borax?
Borax contains boron, which is a necessary nutrient to the body. Borax is one way to supplement this nutrient to the body to improve health, but it is not the only way. Boron supplements can be used. Calcium fructoborate is another option.
Borax Side Effects Video
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If you experience side effects from borax, please be sure to let us know! Continue reading below for extensive and interesting feedback from Earth Clinic readers who have experienced side effects after taking borax.
Borax, boron and fructoborate tablets?
I read if you have liver or kidney issues you do not take boron. What exactly does that mean?
I had a rise in my liver enzymes from food that has returned to normal. I also had a rise in bun test that I will be checking on tomorrow. I believe this is also a food issue. I am concerned about the sodium content of borax. Do the boron or fructoborate tablets have sodium also?
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Please help! I just finished day 5 of drinking borax water. Hoping to treat my psoriatic arthritis and heel spurs. Everything was going good until today I developed a yeast infection. I NEVER get those. Do you think I should discontinue the borax water? Could this be a toxin release? Thanks in advance for your input
Borax is considered a broad spectrum antifungal and I think you may find the following article about boric acid and yeast and candida infections. Btw, once you ingest borax and it meets the hydrochloric acid in your stomach, it is converted to boric acid.
https://www.healthline.com/health/womens-health/boric-acid-for-yeast-infection
Art
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I started taking a pinch of borax in a liter of water on Monday. Did this Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday (today) and had sinus/headache since Monday evening. Tonight I am running a fever. Is this herx or might I have a virus? I’ve been fighting a cough/sinus thing for several weeks now, better one day then back to the cough and cheek pain. I have been in airports and medical clinics with many sick people around me, so I could have picked something up. I plan to continue the borax unless I feel a good deal worse. I also take 1 drop lugols every morning in water, but that shouldn’t matter, should it? I drink lots of water during the day and eat clean, but was snacking a good bit during my airport day (planes delayed, was there a very long time and exhausted when I got home. Over 24 hours, yuck).
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I have noticed that taking the borax thins my blood and I have more blood noses.
How much Borax are you talking on a daily basis? How long have you been talking it?
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Greetings. I have been watching several of your youtube videos regarding the health benefits of boron supplementation. I am a 62 year old male recently diagnosed with low testosterone. My doctor prescribed testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) at a relatively low dose. As pointed out, Boron can apparently be useful in increasing testosterone and balancing hormones, so I decided to give it a try. Borax of course is a very cheap option for obtaining Boron. I purchased a box of mule 20 team borax at a local grocery store. The only ingredient listed is Sodium Tetraborate. Knowing that Borax contains approximately 11 milligrams of Boron per 100 milligrams, I carefully weighed out 60 milligrams of Borax (providing about 6-7 mg of boron) on a sensitive scale. This I put in a small bottle and added very hot water. To that, I emptied a 150mg capsule of magnesium citrate and shook it very well. Then I poured that into a 15 ounce bottle and filled it with cold filtered water, shook it again, and drank it. That night, I woke at 4 in the morning soaked in sweat. Could this be some form of detoxification? Perhaps I should lower the dose? The next day I did the same thing, although this time I drank the bottle over the course of the day. While I did not wake up in a sweat, I did wake up feeling quite nauseated, which passed later in the day. Again, is this part of a detoxification that could/should pass in time? Any advice, especially from those who’ve experienced similar symptoms would be greatly appreciated. Thanks much.
For your first dose it sounds like you overdosed. You need to start with low doses to see how your body reacts. You then build up to a full dose. Detox is no fun and you control it by slowly detoxing.
Good Luck.
It seems like everyone here is over doing it x100… This is an element that your body may not have had much of your entire lives…stop thinking about this as a loading stage type of thing an go light…really light. I’m taking 1/8 tsp to 1ltr water and dividing that into 4 daily mixed with juice portions…pain is leaving without serious injury. Be smart people…you don’t need a lot to benefit from this but too much can be harmful.
You’re dose: 1/8 tsp Borax ≈ 500 mg Borax ≈ 55mg Boron
55mg Boron ÷ 4 = 13.8mg boron
David’s dose: 60mg Borax ≈ 6.8mg Boron
Darren Dose = 13.8 mg Boron
David’s dose = 6.8 mg Boron
Did I miss anything?
Good approach Darren. Way better to start way low especially with a substance like this. More is not better in many cases. Many times consistency is the order of the day. With a pH of 9.3, this is something to start slowly. I might even suggest twice a day at most. Like baking soda, this is probably something to take on an empty stomach perhaps well before a meal to see how it affects you. A Herx reaction can be intimidating. Some folks have a major tox load and can react more.
I drink RO water and have a very clean diet with no health issues. Most people eat a toxin laden diet and may not be aware of it. One should not start a detox diet with chelation as this can damage the kidneys. Supplementing Boron should be kept under 3mg/day as an initial protocol.
I just got some 20 Mule Power sodium tetraborate and will probably start with 1/8th tsp diluted in a pint of RO water using one tbsp per day of the solution with plenty of additional water throughout the day just to test how I may react.
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I have reactive arthritis since 5 years. I'm on day 5 of using borax (two pinch), Baking soda 1/2 teaspoon in half glass of water, ACV, Coconut Oil two times a day 1, I have left wheat, sugar and also doing juice fasting(vegetables mostly). I'm feeling energized but with side effects – low back pain shoulder pain pinched nerves in elbow and lot of acne (milia) comes up on face. I also have dry eyes due to ReA. Hoping I will recover fast. Do anybody have this kind of side effect and when they will subside?
Cindy, I am just reading Kaufman diet website, and I have also purchased 2 books by Doug Kaufman. Now any time I hear itching my mind says "Unless it is an insect bite it is likely fungus related".
Right now I am clearing out some fungal overgrowth, using various tools, and ready to add borax, so now here researching. Thanks to all posters, it is amazing to what a community can achieve.
It sounds to me that your body started to 'get rid of something' right away. That something inside that is likely causing fibro pain. If you ask yourself "I WONDER what it could be that is coming out?" and let it sit unanswered, you may get an insight in some time. Like a memory how you were stung by jellyfish, or got some paint on your body, or lived in a place with some mold infestation. I highly recommend to look up the Kauffman diet in search and read a bit. I found lot of answers to my questions there, and also some great recipes to help get the extra fungus/candida etc out of the body.
Detox happens with the change of foods as well, bit of nausea, so I have some water with a couple of slices of ginger ready, and also activated charcoal and finely ground up psyllium husk to absorb toxins when they are coming out. I would put some clay poultice on the bumps to absorb whatever is coming out of them, and when clay dries, wash it gently off. I used to it daily for various conditions. Then smear a very thin layer of coconut oil, which has antifungal properties.
I get for years from time to time an urge to take a "healing nap" at those hours. Usually just about 1/2 hour, but recently a deep healing nap was the result of my laying down with fresh reading material.
If you research a bit, Oriental medicine has that times Small intestine active time. If we have various issues to be repaired in that area, it is best done in my experience when the body simply "knock me out of the way". We are such a go-go! Society these days. Small intestine is also an area that processes various unexpected ("put on the spot") events. Just going down mid-town New York would stress my small intestine energy when I lived there. That is when my body started to take occasional, and sometimes daily, naps to compensate for it, and create 'order' while I napped.
Get a gallon of distilled water from store and use that. It's as pure as you can get.
I don't understand the confusion in how much borax to take? I use an old glass ACV bottle = 32oz to this add a 'heaping' teaspoon of '20 mule-team' borax then fill with 'distilled' water, this formula is the borax CONCENTRATE! This should be 30mg of borax / 3.3mg of boron.
Shake the bottle to dissolve and then let rest in refrigerator overnight. Next morning take 1 teaspoon of the CONCENTRATE and add to whatever amount of water/liquid you want.
I have been taking, up to 3 doses a day, this for about 4 years, with occasional 'breaks' of 1 to 5 days a month, without side-effects or gastric distress.
When starting out used 1 teaspoon on 8oz 'well-water' once per day, followed this for 6 months prior to increasing to 2 then 3 dose per day. Now I just add 1 teaspoon of CONCENTRATE to about 2 ounces of 'well-water'.
If you don't have a good source of 'well-water', then I would use 'distilled' water, to make the CONCENTRATE.
The following website is what I based my CONCENTRATE on;
https://www.health-science-spirit.com/borax.htm
I hope this helps the confusion. Blessing and peace to all.
What is well water? We have a water well but have never drank the water. It’s good water used for our dogs, chickens, horses, cattle and goats.
There are places that will test your water for free. Farm Implement, or just call the water dept.
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Borax heavily raises my bloodsugars. For 3-4 hours after using it, I have trouble getting my bloodsugars into normal range again. I suspect it's because borax is a mix of boron and natrium (salt/natron), and salt drives down potassium levels. Potassium allows insulin to enter the cells of the body.
Of course, there's plenty of chances that the blood sugar reactions are because borax stresses parasites. Still praying for a breakthrough in all this!
Type 1 diabetes, have had a bone tumor, teeth issues. I got amalgam fillings when I was 14 and diabetes and all the rest of the issues came after that (heavy metal troubles! ). I do wish my family had known about parasite cleansing before all the other crap happened to me!
Castor oil is the palm of Christ and I love the stuff, it works on many things in the body
https://draxe.com/castor-oil/
Comfrey is the comforter herb and it heals bones and teeth and skin
https://www.earthclinic.com/herbs/comfrey.html
Coconut oil is amazing stuff from teeth to rectum and brain health
I take in my boron in a footsoak 1/2 tsp with epson salt 1/4 cup for an hour 3 x a week. Molybdenum the next day to cut die off pain
Eric Berg is a naturepath who ruined his health in college and now teaches step by step on you tube how to overcome many health issues.
Hope you find your solutions. Keep the Faith, Blessings, Charity
This should greatly help you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm-Ia6vI4PA.
Ignore the title, it is somewhat misleading.
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Can too much borax cause edema in the legs? I haven’t changed anything differently with my routine, except adding in borax in the last week. I’ve been having major fluid build of from my knee and creeping up my thigh.
Do you have any root canals? You might look into having them removed by a “biological dentist” . That alone helped me tremendously.
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I have been using borax on and off for about 9 months. I have been having kidney pain and just wondering if borax has been known to cause kidney damage?
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1/8tsp borax in water is causing heart palpitations…any idea why and how to control it?
Tisha, lower your dosage or stop. I only take half a pinch. (if that is a measurement! )
https://www.earthclinic.com/borax-side-effects.html
I belive msm and c and molybdenum and magnesium and chanca piedra can help
borax releases calcium out of soft tissue into kidneys, very painful use chanca piedra in vitamin isle walmart
I am still using it as a footsoak because my stomach is not ready for it after over year of footsoaks 3 x a week. Some others in this site can foot soak in huge amounts, I have to use 1/4 tsp. still work using it to get life back into balance….
Have it tested. The health department will do it for you.
You might be dehydrated. I've gotten palpitations when I haven't been drinking adequate amounts of water.
Me too at first—I was taking 1g of Borax daily, and experienced mild palpitations, although this has been a common symptom for me since my health problems began. I actually had a minor heart attack. The palpitations gradually lessened and I have not felt them in weeks. Still at 1g daily with lots of magnesium and buffered C.
Tisha, your heart needs salt to work properly and you may have changed the balance in your body. I had heart palps for over 30 years, they stopped when I started salting my water with 1-2 tsp daily. If you doubt read ‘the salt fix’. My palps stopped after only a few weeks.
Actually it is not the sodium but rather the calcium that makes the heart function better.
NACL. Sodium and Chloride. This is a knife with two sides and one must not always act on medical opinion. Fortunately there are a growing number of Docs who are climbing out of the medical funnel (pharmaceutical indoctrination to promote medical addiction) and are paying more attention to the realities of body needs. For instance…the body cannot function without cholesterol… the docs are getting this better now. Have to have cholesterol to make hormones and function the brain well (among many other functions of cholesterol). Study more and listen less. I have 40 years of medical experience…mainly resolving medical stupidities.
Boron…like many other substitutes is wonderful…when used appropriately.
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I been taking 1/8 teaspoon of borax in 1 liter of water, but I have side effects tingle sensation in my left arm, pain in the left side of my neck, anxiety and a lot of gasse, every time I time I touch my neck. Thanks God, I don't have the anxiety anymore. Someone who experienced the same side effects, or anyone who can tell me what can I do to get rid of the symptoms. Thank you very much for your help.
Try using just a pinch for a while, your symptoms should go away, you will still be getting the benefit, and you may be able to increase later. It could be killing pathogens, as it is antifungal, giving you die-off symptoms, and repairing bone/joint problems. But overall listen to your body. Best to you
I made a mistake on a previous message, the anxiety and high blood pressure was caused by the Apple Cider Vinegar. Thank you for all your help.
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I am 47 yrs old women. Experiencing bone and joint aches. Last week after I ate shiitake mushrooms I started to experience left big toe joint pain. I thought it might be gout. I search and started taking cal-mag, C, cheries.. Along with 1/8 tsp borax in 1lt water daily.
My 10 yr old son told me that I am over the top angry, and snappy (I was PMS ing). I never skip a period up till this time and I am 3 days late this time. Today PMS symptoms are gone. Using cal-mag helps me to have my period easy. So it's not that. I am thinking it might be the borax caused to skipping?? Anybody who has/had the same experience and/or might have an opinion on this? I am pretty curious that it might be a huge coincidence that is starting borax solution and losing a period at the same time, maybe its just I am getting premenopausal..
Perhaps your late period was caused by perimenopause. You are at an age where irregularity can be a sign that you’re moving towards menopause. It happened to me. I miss months now and it began with irregulaity. I’m 4 yrs older than you.
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Candida – Use of Turpentine and Borax resulting in becoming very tired throughout the day and in muscles of the body.
Just finished my 4th day of turpentine in the morning yesterday and on my third day of using the Borax. Now I was just on the Turpentine last week, but since starting the Borax I have been exhausted… Any reason why this might be, please?!
Best,
L
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I have been taking borax (20 mule) for close to a month 1/8tsp per day. I started having bone pain, no other side effects just feeling bone pain. Is this normal. I do take vitamin D, K, Magnesium, silica and B complex. Is bone pain normal?
That does not appear to be a frequent side effect. It is likely the borax is removing something that is causing inflammation in your bones. Fluoride would be a possible culprit. Reducing the dosage temporarily would probably relieve the symptom. An anti-inflammatory such as turmeric could make you more comfortable. You could also take raw garlic and cayenne to improve your circulation. Look into "phase 1 and 2 detox", too. What condition are you trying to improve?
Thank you for your response. Mostly I am trying to improve my teeth and gums. I have been taking Vitamin D + K2 (mk4 &7) +Mg + Vit A (liver once a week) for a while and noticed improvement in my teeth. Then later on I have learned that calcium is being regulated in the body not just by Vitamin D by also by parathyroid which needs boron. Anyway so I started supplementing with borax. Any thoughts?
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Same here, my leg bones ached. I stopped Borax and it took a few days to get better, but I think I took too much borax and with too little water. Still plan to experiment as I want fluoride out of my body. Can you update your situation? Thanks!
Are you taking enough quality magnesium? You need to apply it topically and lots of it.
I dissolved 1 teaspoon of Borax in a liter of distilled water. From that solution, I take 1 teaspoon and add it to 6 ounces of distilled water and drink it once a day. I noticed that I get pimples on my scalp. Is this an allergy reaction to Borax?
It happens to me, too. It is probably killing candida or some other pest in your scalp. I just wash my hair daily and make sure to drink kefir for the probiotics, protein, sulfur, etc. If you drink milk, switch to kefir or yogurt. Milk and ice cream tend to encourage eczema in some people. If you wear hats or ponytails it may be part of the cause trapping heat and moisture in your hair and allowing a fungal infection to persist. Look into tDemodexmodex mite cure, maybe, too. Good luck!
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I have been using Borax 5 days on 2 days off using a dosage between 1/4th and 1/8th of a teaspoon. The reason that I have been using it is that I suspect Candida and yeast related issues.
I have noticed many days (not all) that I have had serious diarrhea due to the effect of the borax. Could this be due to candida die off or could this be a side effect due to the alkalinity of Borax? Can anyone elaborate on this?
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Hi guys,
I just started taking borax yesterday (1/8 tsp in 1 liter water) and experienced some nausea and rapid heart beat almost right away. I took it again today and my pulse slowed down, but I've been throwing up all day. I'm trying to heal RA, hypothyroidism, heal my gut, become alkaline, kill off Candida, and heal this over exfoliated burning skin damage. Yeah a lot to deal with.
I want to continue it for healing purposes but I just cannot consume it that way…the taste is not pleasant and tastes like a chemical to me. Honestly just the thought of it makes me nauseated again. So I'm looking to buy boron supplements but was wondering if anyone could recommend somewhere or a brand. Also how much would I take? Thanks
I take borax in through my feet. I started last august with a ~tiny~pinch in 1-2 gal water, an hour soak one day a week for first month. Drastic changes and I needed to use chanca piedra to break up kidney stones it brought about the first time I did it.Ginger gets nausea under control. 2nd month I did it twice a week and now three days a week. Amazing changes. Every time I do it the next day I have more pain and then I get stronger and slowly increased my pinch to about 1/4 tsp. Wishing you well. Love, Charity
Hi Charity, How’s it going now days?
Borax is amazing stuff and foot soaks work well. It affects minerals and hormones so I balance those too. Currently I am trying some serrazimes low dose and some ox bile on top of the mountain of other things . Getting my digestion back on track after watching some Eric Berg videos,. Words have power and I use statements to declare over my health ,. Make sure you use chanca piedra with the borax . Hope you are well and finding new keys to youthfulness. Blessings, Charity
Thanks Charity, I will try this method and tell you how it goes. Thanks so much for the support and help you've given me. Love, Lonnie
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Hi. I’m using Borax (1/8 tsp/liter/day for 5 days) to treat Lichen sclerosus. I’m on my second week of 5 days on/2days off. Since I’ve started I have started having hot flashes mostly at night (never had them before). I had read that this treatment helped people with hot flashes. I’m 53 yo and I just missed my first period in April so I guess it possible that this is just part of the early stages of menopause but seems odd it started when I started the borax treatments. Do you think it’s related?
I have been taking the 1/8th teaspoon borax in a litre of distilled water for quite some time following Ted's advice for a condition I have. Shortly after acquiring this condition, I also developed Lichen Sclerosus as well as granuloma annulare. I signed up for the Patient UK Forum on LS and find it most helpful; it is recommended there to use a sitz bath with borax along with other recommendations.
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My daughter was taking borax for her acne condition but she started to get dark-circles under her eyes. She was taking a very small dosage of 1/32 tsp in 1 liter of water. After stopping the borax due to the dark-circles, her acne flared up. She was thinking of trying it again but she's concerned about the dark-circles. Does anybody know what they indicate? Thanks.
Ar100, dark circles under eye are essentially a result of toxins. Consider a liver cleanse or some daily liver herbs such as milk thistle, dandelion, or granulated (very important) non GMO lecithin, to help some detox. After a couple of weeks of liver heal she may try the borax again. Can also apply some unrefined or organic coconut oil topically (and internally, for that matter). If me personally, I would probably also apply rosehip oil and castor oil with the coconut. One because I always add castor oil to salves and balms, and two because having just started using the rosehip, found it is great for the skin.
Best to you
Thank you Teena, I will let her know. Her acne condition is due to hormonal effects. The borax was helping but she got so discouraged with the dark circles. She has tried acne antibiotics and other hormonal medicine but nothing seems to get rid of her acne…
Ar100, the acne unfortunately are also signs of congested liver, more reason to do a cleanse, I still suffer breakouts occasionally and my diet has been relatively clean for several months. Of course it will take more than a few good months to clear the body of years of bad habits. With a recent breakout, however, to stop myself picking, this time I reached for some homemade liquid soap, just so that I feel the wetness and am 'reminded' not to pick. Terrible habit. Anyway the next morning, the pimple had receded and not grown, whereas another one I hadn't treated had formed a large white head. My homemade soap consists of bentonite clay, baking soda, borax, water and essential oils. I'm thinking the benefit was likely the clay, and I'll definitely use it in future.
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I began again taking, in the morning, 1/8 tsp borax in 1 liter of water daily (sipped throughout day) for 5 days then 2 days off. In the first week alone it makes me very sleep around 1-3 pm that I have to take a 2 hour nap. After that I'm fine again. This is the 3rd time over 1 year I started this dose and each time it makes me sleepy so I stop taking it. Why is it making me sleepy? I'm healthy and should have few toxins in me. Thank you.
Although we believe ourselves to be relatively healthy in our diet and lifestyle, the bare truth is that we all carry a heavy toxic load of accumulated heavy metals – from vaccines, foods and environment, toxic iron – from 'fortified' foods = iron shavings, exposure to EMF, multiple vitamin & mineral deficiencies, unhealthy microbiomes, pathogenic microbes, parasites, and have impaired detox pathways. The reactions you are experiencing are detox issues and also point to adrenal fatigue and an overall deficiency of minerals. Maybe look toward adding a minimum of 500 mg magnesium (500 mg/100# body weight), a 72 mineral trace suppl, B vitamins, 4.5 grams/4500 mg potassium, increase your intake of salt, Iodine (Lugols or Edgar Cayce's sol.), food-sourced C (NOT as ascorbic acid), Vita D3, omega fatty acids (cod liver oil has all 5 of them), ACV or other bicarbonate (baking soda is not the best source nor necessarily advised), a diet of many-colored fresh and steamed fruits & vegies, clean proteins, non-processed oils (think raw, unfiltered coconut oil), pre- and pro-biotics, biofilm busting herbals (Lumbrokinase; even Mucinex is a known buster), drink some cleansing herbal teas, take activated charcoal or tumeric w, black pepper, 1-3 caps with water at bedtime – as a binder for the toxins, (not with suppls as this will bind them too), drink plenty of filtered water. And stay with your Borax regimen. Your body needs to heal and this can be slow and problematic for 2-3 wks or longer. Sleep is our default healing state and your body, in its innate wisdom, is telling you that down time is needed. You may need to also change the timing of your Borax/Boron intake to change the timing of your exhaustion although the afternoon exhaustion really points to adrenals. The adrenal 'cocktail' I take is the juice of two oranges, 1/2 tsp Redmond or Celtic salt, 1/2 tsp cream of tartar (yes, from the spices aisle for potassium), and 1000 mg berry-sourced Vita C; you can sub coconut or Fiji water. We need to detox when we start any healing regimen and be prepared for the inconvenience and actual pain that we may go through. Deep tissue massage is very helpful. Natural medicine has long understood the role of the skin – largest body organ – in detox and the standard medical community is now realizing the role of the integument (the tissues that connects all of our cells) in health, the treatment of cancers, etc. Alternative therapies like deep or visceral tissue massage, micro-current, acupuncture, and a host of others, are aimed at moving the lymph system that mops up the toxins once mobilized from the organs, bone, gut, and integument; in turn, the toxins are secreted by the liver and kidney IF properly bound for excretion. Lyme researchers proved that the integument under our skin is vastly populated by pathogenic biofilms, a feature of treatment-resistant Lyme complex. This is opined as the cause of skin eruptions in any healing protocol. I believe that our bodies communicate clearly and we just need to listen and give ourselves what is needed for deep healing and true health. Best to you on your journey.
My husband and I used to drink Fiji water until I discovered it has one of the highest fluoride contents. Fluoride is a toxic poison. Please listen to what Dr. Klinghardt says about fluoride. We now use 2 different filters, clear water removes 220 known pharmaceuticals and pesticides, followed by the zero water filter, one of the few that removed aluminum and fluoride.
I've been using two pinches of borax as a supplement everyday for nearly a year. Now I'm worried it has built up in my system and is causing skin rashes, irritated throat, slight fever etc.
I regularly drink alcohol which could have inhibited my kidney function, preventing my kidneys from flushing boron out of my system.
The amount I used daily would have been roughly 20 or 25 mg per day.
Should I have been taking two days off?
Yes, I think you should have been taking 2 days off. And if your kidney function is compromised, perhaps using much less.
That said, if kidney function is not great, the symptoms you are experiencing could be from any number of things.
Do check out kidney remedies here at EC and see what might resonate with your situation.
~Mama to Many~
Borax is a mineral that we need to consume on a regular schedule. There are also other minerals it is in balance with. If they get out of balance or you get low on water in your system, the body will produce histamine as a warning shot with symptoms (rash, sore throat, ect) so you can think about what is out of balance causing symptoms. Alcohol dehydrates and depletes of minerals, like magnesium for instance. I don't drink but encourage you if you do to read more on how to re balance your systems. Blessings. Charity
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I started the borax protocol over a week ago, using â…› teaspoon to one liter of bottled water. I am 59 years of age, and have been suffering from fibromyalgia since 1997. I am trying to ease my fibro pain. On my third day I started seeing red bumps on my arms and legs and now my face. I did one more day of borax and my reaction worsened. I have stopped using borax. I have not used borax in 4 days. I was wondering if I am allergic or is this a reaction to detoxing. I have never detoxed before. I would like to use the borax again, but I am afraid of worsening my condition. I no longer have red bumps, but now wounds. My arms and legs constantly itch like crazy. Any suggestions? Help!
Thank you, Cindy
I had the same problem in May 2017.
After investigating, it was a healing reaction from the borax. My rash which was located on the left leg calf area seemed to be coming from within my body whereas a poison ivy rash would sit on top of the skin. I stopped borax until my skin felt calm and then resumed it. I've had no problems since.
Thank you Ian. I also feel my rash looks a bit like poison ivy, but I have never been allergic, so far in my life. I am waiting for the rash to heal, before starting back on the borax. I do believe that I am detoxing. I didn't realize my body was so trashed. I am now intent on cleaning up my body. I want to feel and look like thirty again. It's worth a try!! 😀
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I started taking boron at 1/8 teaspoon in liter of water. After about 1 week I developed a small red rash over many parts of body. I stopped and rash slightly lessened. Any suggestions?
Sounds like herxhiemer reaction, a detox reaction. Probably you are not poisoning yourself, so don't worry. Bromide is said to cause rashes when it is detoxed. Or parasites are trying to escape the borax. Taking soothing baths or reducing the amount of borax would be the thing to do if the rash is bothersome. Or take activated charcoal or chlorella; digestive complaints (such as an overloaded elimination system from the borax clearing things out) have been known to cause skin rashes. Rashes are a fairly common detox reaction in general from what I have read. Good luck!
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I tried the borax a small amount in a gallon of water…My question is does it lower blood pressure? I already have low blood pressure but noticed when I was working in my yard every time I would stand, after bending I felt light headed?
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I started supplementing 3 mg of boron multiple times a day with food together with iodine. Initially I was seeing many Improvements but after almost a week I started feeling worse and worse. I initially dropped the iodine because I thought the lugols was the reason for the symptoms. I developed a smashing headache on the right side of my brain. Increased anxiety, fatigue and general malaise. Pain in my neck and shoulders etc. This is when I realized the boron could be the culprint. I have a history of candida symptoms and I expected a die off. After stopping the boron the symptoms went away within 24 hours. Just saying go low and slow.
I will introduce the boron again soon and will keep the dosage low for a while. Molybdenum can help to get rid of acetydehyde from the candida die off.
I've been reading a lot on this topic this year and boron also lowers copper. People can be toxic copper and low copper at the same time. Toxic copper is improper storage and unusable but causes symptoms of overload while the body is starved of copper for utilizing in collagen and elastin and brain health, and zinc balancing. Boron lowers msm and c. Vitamin C lowers copper also.
In actuality, whole food Vitamin C or the fruits it is made from are the sole source for the protein-bound, bioavailable form of Copper – Ceroplasmin. NOT from ascorbic acid-sourced Vita C (from GMO corn, usually). Food sourced Vita C contains a molecule of Ceroplasmin and this, along with adequate intake of Magnesium (about 500 mg per 100# body weight; transdermal is needed relative to bowel tolerance), Boron (up to 30-80 mg daily or lower dose with 3-9 prunes daily), trace minerals (liquid suppl and or nutritional yeast), food source B vitamins (esp B12; bee pollen is a good source for the Bs), Vita D (cod liver oil), Potassium (about 4.5 grams daily for an adult), Silica (diatomaceous earth or Fiji water), Iodine (Edgar Cayce's formula or Rugol's Solution, Taurine (500-1000 mg daily), will begin to provide the body with the minerals needed to begin the road to healing.
Additionally, one must eliminate all citrates, Calcium and Iron supplements, and eating a Paleo-type diet with adequate zinc and all of the other trace minerals we need, will balance our bodies and result in a much more healthy and dis-ease resistant state. When we begin to balance, our bodies detox and we start ridding our body of stores of toxic iron. Go low and slow. Borax is an integral part of this regimen and much of it is inexpensive and diy.
For Herx, take the juice of 1 lemon in a cup of water and Alka Seltzer Gold with 8 oz water; this works in 1-3 hours AND back down on your dosing until your body is stronger. Blessings.
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I have been taking Borax now for a little over a month. I am getting bit concerned because my bladder is really beginning to bother me, in that I feel like I have to constantly urinate (not a bladder infection I checked) and I am worried that it may be too hard on my kidneys. I have had IC in the past but it was a long time ago. Also, I have Scleroderma and my extremities are colder than usual. I'm wondering if I should just force through this because it might be a herx or whether the Borax may just be too much for my system. I would think by now this would have passed. Any advice would be appreciated.
Mix one rounded tsp of Borax in 1 quart of water – shake til dissolved. This is your Borax concentrate. I started out putting one tsp of the concentrate in my 22 oz. glass water bottle to drink throughout the day. After about a week (b/c I had no side effects), I increased it to 2 tsps. a day. My plan is to increase to no more than 3 tsp. per day. I was told this is the same as 3 mg of boron a day, which is the recommended dose.
Your bladder symptoms are similar to the symptoms of oxalate kidney stones. The alkalinity of borax may be loosening the crystals. Drinking raw apple cidar vinegar in water or drinking lemon juice is often helpful for kidney stones. You may find your solution in that direction.
Look into other nutrients, vitamins you may need. Iodine deficiency is common and one symptom of that is cold hands and feet.
Have you looked into DMSO for your scleroderma? In the book, "DMSO The Persecuted Drug" there is some good info on using it for that disease.
Actually, when mixing ionic Boron at 1 tsp Borax to 1 liter of water, the resulting water contains approx 3 mg of Boron per tsp. The greatest health benefits will be experienced when also balancing all the other needed primary and trace minerals, Magnesium is key among them. It's fantastic that you are tolerating high doses of ionic Boron as doses for adults are recommended at 30-80 mg daily.
MSM might be good against borax die-off reactions
Taking a serious risk, I took 1/4 teaspoon of borax with a glass of water. The next day, I got strong Herx reactions primarily including stomach and gut pain, nausea, and slight pains or pressures in various regions of my head.
I noticed that a teaspoon of MSM powder (which I've been using for a week now) with a glass of water and orange juice alleviated the reactions.
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I've been taking the Borax now for 4 weeks…1/8 tsp in 1 liter of water like Ted described… I built it up slowly from 1 day to 4, and at the end of last week I felt very depressed and nauseous…Took it again yesterday and the same nausea came back. I'm wondering if this is a herx or if I am allergic to the Borax or if I may have to reduce the dose…
I have scleroderma and also have Spincter of Oddi issues after having my gallbladder removed 6 years ago…Not sure what to do… I was on antibiotics for many years (I know bad) but I was hoping this would work out and help me feel better.. I am a low weight 95lbs and maybe need to reduce this to 1/16th of a teaspoon? I would be very grateful for any help…
Yes Sschulz, reduce dosage. I only take a tiny pinch.
Regarding the possible side-effects of taking Borax: I guess it can affect some folks differently but in my case it dries me out and I am not talking about "rehab" here!
I must talk to the ants and cockroaches about this, as castor sugar and borax dries them out also!! "Go figure", as you would say in the States!
My sinuses, ears and my (few remaining) lymph nodes get stuffed up and are sometimes quite painful. I promptly bring out the steam inhaler bowl, the kettle, the towel and the one drop of tea tree oil and have two, back-to-back sessions of this. Then, I do the ice pack at the back of the head trick for ten minutes or so and go to bed with a hot water bottle under my neck. This latter is a favourite of mine. Soo good.
Of course I stop the borax for a couple of days, reduce the dosage and hope that I won't suffer again (until the next time).
The definition of madness is to keep doing the same thing over and over again whilst expecting a different result!!
But I feel "in my bones" that the dreaded Arthritis is no worse than it was and some remote parts of my complicated anatomy may actually be feeling less sore as a consequence.
Long live the Borax Protocol. Just stay tuned to your body and listen to the subtle messages it is trying to convey to you !
P.S. I follow the E.C. guidelines on this one and do not overdose.
Cheers and Happy Christmas,
Michael
Being a sort of curious person, this drying out, is it possible that borax being one of our minerals is off balancing another mineral. I know salt thins mucus secretions and too much potassium depletes salt and the list of these causes and effect is long but I think I read one on walter lasts website…. keep me updated as to the source of this mystery. I do pinch of borax in 2 gal hourlong footsoaks three days a week this month along with about thirty supplemental things to keep upright and moving forward. Blessings, Charity
Charity, just read your post from 2017. I was curious why you soak your feet? Thanks
I try things in my feet first. I used Dhea as a foot cream and now I take it internal as a capsule.5 mg every other day. I had horrible foot pain for years from the ankle down and used activated charcoal with a couple drops of castor oil on large bandaids and in one night the pain stopped and never returned. I was trying the borax because I got a sliver in my foot while cutting blackberry vines back. It was a crazy experience . Eye opening and painful as my gut started to hurt, and my forehead swelled up, for three days from just a pinch of borax. My stomach has been a life issue of drama, and many panic attacks, so I have a fear of trying things I was allergic to everything for many years but not anymore. Watercure by Dr. Batmanghelidj gave me lots of insights.
So on monday I foot soak and tuesday I wake up with sticky blobs in my mouth, like it's killing my candida, then I use activated charcoal during the morning in my mouth to clean it up. I never had that until the foot soaking. On wednesday I footsoak and on thursday I wake up with sticky blobs in my mouth. Kill those candida, hope to find myself well this year.
Have you found yourself better after a year of this??
I had to stop in december because a new health issue rose up and I wasn’t sure what was the cause of it. I am currently doing many things and recently adding comfrey foot soaks , every couple days,and tea , one cup a day. I got my plants last year but they didn’t have flowers so I had to make sure what they were before using them. I am so happy with them. I am dehydrating leaves daily for winter use. Seems to be going after mucus and candida and gut health along with skin and other issues. Hoping bladder goes back up into position as tendons and ligaments are affected by it (knit bone is nickname ) I’m on week two.
I will say …I am working to solve the issue so I can get back to the benefits I was receiving on borax. It works like the fountain of youth if you go slow and keep other minerals in balance and also hormones. If you use it keep some chanca piedra on hand for (stonebreaker is nickname) for calcium breaking free from soft tissue and going into kidneys.
I wish you well….blessings , Charity
I was born sick and battled stuff my entire life in my gut, skin, and many other issues, so I try stuff from my feet first to keep stomach from going nuts. My stomach can set off some horrific panic attacks. Don't underestimate the power of the skin. I know a lot of people on here talk about being sick after a massage and I think it might be the oils they use during the massage might be too much. A bandage with activated charcoal on a couple drops of castor oil on my feet for one night healed my feet of years of pain I had …. Gone.
If my hip hurts I put the bandage on the hip overnight and my hip is pain free.
You may have leaky gut (protein spilling into the blood rather than being absorbed) and need to address your GI terrain issues while trying a lower dose and looking into your entire diet and lifestyle choices; pre- and pro-biotics are key. Healing can be a long and sometimes painful journey, but well worth the invested time and self-care.
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Hi, I am taking the female 1/8 tsp dose of borax after a main meal, however I have been experiencing stomach pains which are pretty uncomfortable. Should I discontinue or lower my dosage? Thanks!
Definitely cut down dosage. Even a few grains a day can benefit.
Thank you! Should I also be taking activated charcoal? or whatever that is…I've read some posts below about that being beneficial with borax treatment.
If you are still having stomach pain charcoal would probably help.
If you are taking borax to detox, charcoal may be good to use too, except charcoal is kind of a pain to use because you have to take it away from other supplements and meds.
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I've started taking 1/8 tsp in 1 liter of water and sinuses are more clear. I did get a racing heart but stopped it right away with essential oil application. I feel a bit of bone loss is happening in my neck. I know this feeling from when I overly nursed my 1st son to comfort him when he was suffering with undiagnosed thrush which turned systemically into full body eczema. I subsequently got a "hump" in my lower neck/upper back area. Oddly years ago I dealt the same bone loss from taking diatomaceous earth for about a week. I love the borax but can only continue if the ache of loss in this area goes away.
It's possible the pain in the neck and hump on your lower neck / upper back are due to a hormonal imbalance. Specifically too much cortisone (a stress hormone, which makes sense, as daily life is stressful, and pregnancy understandably adds to this).
Should you be noticing this hump coming back, if you can at all possibly afford to, see a doc (and I'm not a fan of having to see doctors, but sometimes…) and have your cortisone levels checked. Though we need some cortisone to live, it being too high (called Cushing's Syndrome) causes a mess of problems (including bone loss) that can get worse if not put in check.
That hump is a classic sign of Candida overgrowth! Borax will work for this, but you may need to add some additional supports for deep healing and detox.
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Hi, I have taken less than 1/8 teaspoon of borax in to a 2dcl glass and drunk a bit. Less than half. Now I have third day terrible stomach pain, I have a rapid heartbeat and body crack. Any idea to get rid of the excess boron? probably I took to much of boron.
chanca piedra for any stone issues causing pain, milk thistle, or a liver detox supplement, Kefir 1 TBSP or some gut enzymes from a good yogurt. molybdenum, magnesium, selenium
At night use some activated charcoal 3 caps or tabs and 16 ounces of water and put some castor oil on your gut and a shirt you don't care about and go to bed.
some other things that might help is 1/4 to 1/2 tsp baking soda dissolved in water 12 oz, make sure it's mixed well before drinking it. 1 tsp. Apple cider vinegar with some honey in water …
read more on earth clinic boron borax section
That's what I do.
I usually take a couple capsules of activated charcoal when I think I am having side effects from something (especially digestive side effects), with plenty of water.
Also, 1 cup epsom salt in a warm bath for 20 minutes, especially to calm the heart racing down.
Hope you feel better soon!
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I've just started taking a very small dose in a litre of water. It's my second day now and my heart is racing. Anyone else experience this and did it last long/slow down?
It's die off from parasites or candida I'm sure. Take activated charcoal and keep using the following day. That's what I would do.
You can always start with a lower dose and increase as tolerance allows! You can also start off limiting how many days a week you take it. Maybe once a week, then twice a week with many day in between then three days a week building up to something like every other day etc…. If you just woke up one day and decided to go run 10 miles or drink 4 gallons of water while exercise and water are both considered good moderation and building up is key. Just because something is good for you does not mean your body will like it right away or even handle it well! As I understand it an apple should have 20mg of Boron in it but today only has 1mg of boron in it. I have seen the apple bit listed as micro-grams and milligrams so do not know which one is accurate. So almost everyone is deficient in it. Since your body has been working with out it adding it in suddenly out of the blue could surely throw a monkey wrench into the works. When it comes to nutrition and supplements even prescription medicine it is not an all or nothing situation often you start low and have to work the dose up! So do not worry so much about the dose not being high enough or freq. enough. Even if your dose is not optimal it is better than not taking any at all. Compliance is always best if you have no negative side effects! Think long term!
I never knew Borax killed parasites. Does anyone have more information about this?
Borax is a 'surfactant', meaning that it works on the surface–think of a water drop on a freshly waxed car beading up. The wax prevents the water from spreading out and so the water's surface tension keeps it stuck together in a large drop. Soap reduces the surface tension and the water sheets over the car. In my opinion, if a parasite has a surface that repels attempts to penetrate it, then the borax acts to reduce that and, voila, the bug's defense is breached. Just my theory.
I am still doing foot soaks 3 x a week but my pinch has increased of borax soap and every time, my body starts screaming out in pain where I have issues in my health, lousy sleep and then I get stronger after that subsides and feel healthier and more youthful. I guess NO Pain….NO gain….also read that msm lowers boron levels so if you overdid it you might use some msm with vits c and molybdenum because msm lowers them too. wonder what else I don't know that is causing me pains.
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Hi, I´m in the second day of 1/8 teaspoon in liter of water. An hour after I felt clear of mind but a great kidney pain! Also I experienced pain in a knee where I have a kind of bone balls that appeared suddenly. I have the feeling that those balls are badly distributed calcium. Can anyone tell me about kidney pain? What can I do to help them? Anyway I feel fine!
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Same thing here. I took (very low dose) of Borax for a few days and got kidney pain. So I've stopped with Borax, but the kidney pain doesn't go away 🙁
Any idea on that?
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I have been using the 1/8 teaspoon of borax in purified water for 5 days. I began experiencing flu like symptoms along with congestion and strong sadness. Please let me know if this is die off. From what I have read lesson the amount? Thank you.
Like any detox it's most likely die off, when all those toxins start getting stirred up they resist leaving the happy little home they've made. The symptoms shouldn't last more than the flu would.
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The solution is causing me dizziness few minutes after I take it. I end up napping a bit, and then I am fine. So far this is all I noticed. I am waiting it would help me with arthritic joints (cracking mostly). Anyone experience dizziness, too?
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Congestion and Depression from Boron Detox from Candida and Fluoride detoxing; no side effects now.
I discovered boron/borax just over a year ago, January, 2016. I got sick the first week, it was my typical congestion sickness, and it cleared up in a week; I assumed it was a candida die off. I took 3-5 x 3 mg boron pills. Boron gave me increased mental clarity right away, the same day. But my suicidal thoughts increased, and they went away the day I took iodine. I started the 50 mg iodine/day high iodine/selenium protocol the following month, on Feb 7th 2016. Iodine did not give me any candida symptoms, which I attributed to starting boron a month earlier. I could also tell boron was helping my joints. After a few months, I wondered if boron was giving me a bit of depression. I stopped taking it, and the depression lifted.
By the fall of 2016, I increased my iodine to 150mg/day. Being convinced that boron was helpful, I tried it again, thinking the increased iodine would help prevent any depression. This week, I have taken 1 whole teaspoon of borax per day in my morning coffee, having increased it from about 1/4 teaspoon a few weeks ago. I do not notice any depression. No rashes. No kidney pain. No hair falling out. No side effects this time. I suspect that it is the candida die off, and/or the fluoride detox, which may take longer, that cause people's bad symptoms from taking boron.
I advocate iodine and boron; both have helped my health. I lift weights, I stretch, I eat green smoothies, protein, eggs, and lots of fruit. I'm healthy for the most part, but I'm seeking optimal health outside of the medical system, and I aim to keep myself super healthy so as to be able to avoid any harm the medical establishment offers. I also take Vitamins B complex, C, D, E, B12, magnesium, zinc, copper, and selenium, and other assorted herbs from time to time.
To Jason.
Very interesting post. I have a serious systemic candida infection from antibiotics 12 years ago. I have started less then the 1/8 borax in liter of water and do fell like candida symptoms increased.
I am pretty sore when I wake each morning. Not sure if its the kidneys. My kidney lab (BUN) is one number under high.
I like Iodine but noticed increase hair loss everytime I use even at 12mg daily.
Any suggestion from anyone is greatly appreciated!
Becky
Do you take the complement vitamins, minerals, baking soda, and salt loading? I had hair loss, too, initially. I have a head full, now. I have been using iodine for 6 months. I use Borax, but not always orally. I add it to my bath water, too.
When u say u add 1t in ur coffee, do U mean straight borax or 1 t of borax solution diluted in water? Thx
HI U GOOD FOLKS DOIN,,,,,,, most have followed my drama after my fall 3 years ago which crushed my T 12. Know I's wearing you out with that true yarn, but now I think there is a tie with borax and my leg edema. All along I have thought it was totally due to my fall. I confess that I am not a disciplinarian and am a hit and miss kind of a guy. My edema has swung 180 and back several times over a period of time. A while back several good EC folks questioned the side effects of borax..i e. that it caused their edema. That is one of my hits and misses. Now I am totally off borax and will see what happens to my legs. There has not been a drastic change, but I think I can see my swelling going down. A pharmacist friend cured her sciatica problem by eating candied Ginger for three days. I am now eating candied Ginger.
My goal is to be smart by age 85 and if you birds think I's a smart ass now …….. just u wait for 5 more years. I will be voted out of EC by acclamation.
ATS =======ORH=========
HI U GOOD FOLKS DOIN,,,,,,,,,,,
After a few weeks of no borax, I have now concluded that my edema has no correlation with that. I just wish it was because I now think my problem is far worse than I originally thought. It is probably my liver. Of course, at age 80, you have lots of problems. Some of you have followed me over the years as I have grown. My edema tells me that I have a bad problem. We will again start our EDTA Chelation tomorrow. Cleaning out your blood vessels can not hurt. The next day I go down to Ringo, Ga to a new doctor that does ozone. I want him to address my right knee and we will then discuss my lower back.
Have had a pissin contest over the years about getting a homeopathic solution for poison ivy . I am going to develop a solution that will make you immune to poison ivy. I plan to produce a weak solution of poison ivy so any one can be immune to poison ivy. Yep, I will be the guinea pig. We shall see. If I do this, then I want all on EC to take on a challenge that they choose and make it work. Can you imagine what thousands of folks can do it they just set their mind to it? I can…… can you?
I'm a dreamer……. are you? ======ORH=====
Dear ORH,
With all due respect, we have butt heads but I cannot resist sharing what I learned. Over forty years ago I learned too many carbohydrates caused me fluid retention. Still holds true today.
Now, with unavoidable GMO's infiltrating our entire food supply we need to eat differently than we have grown accustom to. I have learned what used to have "no carb content" can no longer be claimed. Who has the money for testing to prove one way or the other? My body retaining fluid, arthritis fare-ups or indigestion is my barometer.
Considering your age, edema, arthritis and diabetes, I would caution you trying to find something to make us immune to poison ivy. Long term studies would be required to test validity.
I care.
Love, KT
KT, love you like a sister, but I have to have a process problem to solve least I end up in the top of a tall, tall pine tree. Went to EDTA chelation today and with all my problems I have not had a treatment in 3 years. You are supposed to have a treatment every month to maintain what you have already accomplished. We then went by our little farm to see what damage the flood had wrought. Well it took out a new raised bed, the fence on the South end and the water is still too high to tell the damage on the north end. Our green house plants are ready to be set in the ground, but the garden is standing in water. They will soon be root bound in their small cells.
I am in my glory as I have one heck of a problem and will have to think and work my way through it. I could cuss and throw my hat but that won't help a thing. My industry career was straightening out mills that were in the ditch. Once I got them running smoothly, life was boring and I then looked for another challenge. Right not with my health problems and our farm, life is about as interesting as I can stand. Oh yeah, slept with my legs elevated last night and my edema was slightly improved.
Thank you for your concern. ===ORH===
PS, here is a graph the Sewee Creek level at our farm. The Corp of Engineers tower is located on our property.
https://water.weather.gov/ahps2/hydrograph.php?gage=seet1&wfo=mrx
Dear ORH,
Vitamins B-6 and C are reported to reduced fluid retention. You might want to look for the B-Complex 100 as you get all the B's because I read where taking only one can cause deficiencies in the others. They are water soluble so you can't OD on them.
Love,
KT
There is an antidote to poison ivy. Jewelweed is the antidote and there is a company that sells a spray, salve, and a soap, I think.
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I started taking 1/8 tsp of Borax in water throughout the day with a couple days off per week. After about 2-3 weeks I noticed old injuries hurting again. My old surgical site of my right ankle which had been reconstructed with pins, plates, etc.. had healed and all but forgotten over the last 25 years but this last week I have trouble walking on it.. same with some back pain. I am hoping this is a healing process but certainly don't want to continue if I am causing issues that will worsen. If anyone has insight into this, please advise. Would love to hear from Ted.
Try reading the Boron Conspiracy article ( https://www.health-science-spirit.com/borax.htm ). It references the magnesium/calcium relationship as it relates to boron. I wonder if your boron regiment is causing calcium redistribution.
I've been using borax for about 3 weeks, at first I experienced some headaches and depression, but now an old broken toe (broke it 15 years ago) suddenly started to hurt, not the like the occasional ache associated with the weather. Now it hurts like I just broke it! I really think it re-broke all by itself, there's been no event to explain it. Calcium redistribution? Anyone else experience anything similar?
Yes, kinda. As I have been dealing with Bone disease for several yrs, my experience with Borax has been rather effective in killing a chronic mycoplasma infection but not much improvement for Bones as far as I could tell. So a few months ago I assumed I was not getting enough boron from the Borax and started supplementing 4mg with very good results.
Recently in my up & down cycles of bone disease, I too get an acute or temporary episode of bone pain which is later sensed as marked improvement in the condition. This happened last night as well as July 3rd and both times I was noticeably better the fallowing day, which leaves me to conclude there is a point of pain into as well as out of disease, like a gateway; kinda like the emotional hurts-so-good phenomina.
Take Turmeric to reduce inflammation. Other minerals needed for bones are Calcium/Magnesium, Manganese, and Strontium. Vit D & K are need also.
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I'm seeking a cure or cause for my kidney pain related to heavy Borax use.
About 3 months ago, a friend mentioned the benefits of using Borax for health reasons. About 10 years ago, I began using iodine, had been reading both forum posts and research articles, and occasionally I'd see mention of borax, but I never followed up with it.
But considering I am working full-time outside and had done a physical showing alkaline urine (too much calcium loss), I decided to check it out. I began with 1/4 tsp., I felt lightheaded and woozy my first few days (I expected it due to cleaning out candida), and began using it daily with good results (mentally sharp, teeth pain gone, raised mood).
Well, what I did was up my dose about a month in. I carry 2 one gallon jugs of water to work, and I began using up to a teaspoon or more, sometimes in both jugs. (I put C powder, sea salt, and liquid iodine in my water too) Weeks went by with no reaction.
Then my kidneys began getting tender. I'd wake up from sleep, know my lower back hurt some (actually my kidneys), but I blew it off for weeks thinking I'd overdone myself at work picking up heavy items.
But the kidney pain continued, and I began wondering why. I don't regularly pick up heavy items. Why?
So, I googled kidney pain and borax, and saw some posts about it. Specifically, I found posts about using too much. So I stopped for a week. My kidney pain lessened, yet it still remained. I waited another week, me starting back at 1/4tsp. The slight discomfort remained, and I assumed/hoped I just needed to flush it out.
Then……I remembered about fluoride being excreted by borax, and I googled fluoride and kidneys, finding that fluoride can decimate kidneys (I may be exaggerating), but found out iodine actually chelates fluoride. I bought more iodine, using it heavily, like a dropperful in a gallon. (results: too much lowers blood pressure; felt lightheaded and dizzy during the day). So I'm doing sane amounts of iodine again. I didn't want fluoride taking out my kidneys! Additionally, I went to those filtered water machines in supermarkets filling up my water jugs for a week since I'm on city water, all fluoridated. My kidney pain did decrease some.
I'm actually still feeling some kidney discomfort, so I'm writing seeking feedback on healing myself and not worrying about doing something wrong or excessively again.
Note: I drink about 4-6 cups of coffee/day, and I know it can strain kidneys too.
I'm grateful I could share this here. Thank you 🙂
Yikes! I'm no doctor, but I would definitely suggest that you immediately stop taking ALL supplements and stop drinking so much coffee until you find out what's going on!! I'm not quite sure why you feel you need to use the iodine? Most of us get plenty of iodine just from table salt and deficiency is rare here in the U.S. unless you have some type of diagnosed thyroid issues going on. But seriously, give your body a break and let it do its own thing for a bit, and go get your kidneys checked out to be on the safe side. You can't buy replacements at Walmart!
Dear Ag, My guess is that your kidneys have been overworked from the vast amounts of… WATER you are drinking every day!!! Two gallons (7,5 liters) a day is way too much for your kidneys to handle. Half a gallon (i.e. 2 liters) of water daily should be enough to flush your system. Take care!
I respectfully disagree about most of us in the U.S. getting adequate iodine through our diets. I believe, from extensive reading I have done, that the opposite is true.
It could be that you have kidney stones and the borax may be causing the stones to move. I started taking Borax two days ago and then yesterday I began having kidney pain. I've passed kidney stones in the past (and I still have a few stones lodged in my kidneys) and the kidney pain I began experiencing from the Borax was the exact same kind of pain that I experienced in the early stages of passing a stone. When the early pain begins, I take lemon juice and olive oil. It will usually stop the pain. Yesterday I drank the juice of three lemons with about 1/2 part olive oil in a three hour period. The kidney pain is gone. I'm going to cut back on the amount of Borax I was taking. You may want to find out if you have kidney stones so you won't be suddenly and rudely surprised if and when you pass one. When that stone drops down into the ureter, it is hell on earth! It is one of the worse pains known to mankind.
Please go to the iodine forums on curezone.com and/or read Dr. Brownstien's book "Iodine, Why You Need it, Why You Can't Live Without It.". Read up on iodine supplementation and detox symptoms. The kidney pain is known as a detox symptom of iodine supplementation and is handled beautifully with the recommended protocol of taking iodine co-factors and supplements such as boron or borax, atp cofactors, magnesium, etc, and most importantly, the sea-salt flushes which remove the chelated halogens like fluoride, bromide and chlorine from your kidneys. If you only pull out the halogens from your tissues with substances like iodine and boron but you don't flush safely them from the kidneys you will overtax your organs and get some pretty unpleasant side-effects. You need the entire approved iodine protocol in order to speed healing safely. No need to experiment on yourselves, others have already researched and fine-tuned this wonderful protocol. Take care.
Good feedback. I'm passing through the hell on earth you say. Taking the second o third day with 1/8 teaspoon of B. But the kidney pain is frightening! Could u remember how many days it passed until the pain is gone? How many olive oil u took? and water? I dont know what to do but I dont want to stop B. thank you all 🙂
You can also take borax up through skin on your feet . Pinch of borax in 2 gal water, soak for an hour. Chanca piedra for kidney stone breaking. Take it easy on your detox, you will still get to your destination but with much less discomfort. I did one foot soak a week for a month and now I do two a week.
Guys and gals, I wrote this almost a full year ago. I've had intermittent kidney pains, with or without using Borax, as I miss regularly.
But…..I still had kidney pains. It frightened me. I use tap water due mainly to the daily amount I need on my job outdoors–for convenience.
I learned something recently, and really wanted to share it. In short, I'd be using less salt in my drinking water, even using iodized table salt when I'd bypass buying good sea salt. And as my salt decreased, my kidney pain increased.
Why?
I realized I'd had long spells where I felt good years back working outside all day, with very minimal physical discomforts. So, I decided to buy some RealSalt again, which I'd used for a couple of years. While shopping on Amazon, I saw a book called "The Salt Fix" by an MD who really advocated for using salt, as he did a ton of research.
How is this related to kidney pain? When we lose out on natural salt needs, we'll often turn to another white crystal–sugar. I have, numerous times. The author pointed out that sugar consumption is a quiet and rapid destroyer of our kidneys, which was news to me.
He advised upping our salt, and proportionately our desires/cravings for sugar would drop too. I've been using good salt for almost 2 weeks, and my kidney pain is almost completely gone! No more waking up, stiff on my backside, aching as I roll out of bed. I'm not eyeing every sweet morsel in my vicinity anymore either.
Who would've known? I didn't. But experience says this works! Taking enough salt has almost obliterated the back/kidney pain!
Thanks for hearing me out.
Try adding ACV – at 1-3 Tblsp daily to soften the calcifications in your kidneys. And look into overall mineral balance and dietary changes.
Also, adding good sea salt – like Redmonds brand to the diet for adrenal support.
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I have a question I would like to have answered by Ted or a knowledgeable person. I've been drinking 2 to 2/12 liters of water daily. I switched from table salt to Himalaya pink salt for the past several days and my research on mineralized salt led me to Borax. I added one level teaspoon of Borax to 1 liter of distilled water. Then I added 1 teaspoon of this concentrated liquid to another 1 liter of distilled water because I felt Ted's dose would be too high from all the research I did. I drank the Borax water in the evening towards bed time and took 400 mg of Magnesium just before bed.
As soon as I started drinking the Borax water I had mild itching on the surface of arms, face and legs that gradually went away. When I was getting into bed I removed my socks and realized my right foot and ankle was extremely swollen with edema. I had a pulmonary embolism a couple years ago which is a blood clot, had surgery to remove all blood clots and from the same leg that swelled and I'm on blood thinners and on oxygen full time. I ended up with a foot drop, the one that was swollen. It sometimes swells but not like it did on the borax. The next morning most of the swelling was gone. The reason I was interested in Borax is overall health and to see if it would help with the electric shock feelings I sometimes get in my foot. After having this extreme swelling I'm afraid to take it again.
Does anyone have any suggestions and do you think it is worth it for me to try to take Borax again?
In reply to Marie (Co) and others interested in trying borax.
If you read through the EC archives and the web on borax, you will learn that borax works extraordinarily well for some people, is very helpful for others, not at all helpful for some and is not tolerated by some. Pretty much the same as many other remedies and medications that people use all the time, there will be some people who get benefit and others who don't. Judging by anecdotes here on EC as well as the web, borax seems to help more people than it hinders, but this does not mean you should ignore a negative reaction just because others have found benefit with borax.
Itching and swelling are among other things, typical symptoms of an allergic reaction. I have a friend who tried borax for her RA, but even at just a small pinch of borax in a quart of water, she would get uncontrolled itching all over her body that she said was driving her crazy. In an effort to try and get the antiarthritic benefit that many people report from using borax or boron, she tried switching to a boron based supplement. This turned out to work quite well against her severe RA and she did not have the itching issue which borax gave her, however, after two to three weeks of daily use she realized that she was getting depressed and she had never had that problem before. She discontinued the boron and the depression went away within two days. She started on boron again once the depression went away, but shortly after restarting boron, the depression returned. She stopped taking boron and once again the depression went away. This clearly demonstrates that some people can not tolerate borax and or boron even though others not only tolerate, but get great benefit from these two.
Recognizing that your body is reacting negatively to any supplement or medication is very important and such a reaction should never be ignored, as allergic reactions can be life threatening. If you choose to experiment with borax or any supplement and you have a negative reaction to it, it is your responsibility and in your best interest to stop taking it and talk with your doctor to see what your options are.
It is good to be proactive about your health, but it is also good to be health smart and pay attention to what your body is telling you. On this forum, people report what works for them, but that is not a gurantee that it will work exactly the same for others and in reading through the various threads on EC, you will see that this is often the case with many of the listed remedies.
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Thank you so much for your quick response. I stopped taking the borax prior to reading your reply and felt better. Some swelling and stiffness is still present in my foot and ankle. It will continue to improve. I just want to mention I did a lot of research prior to taking the borax. I read The Borax conspiracy theory and a lot of information on Earth Clinic plus youtube. I would never start taking anything without first researching. Marie
Marie,
It could be that you are Magnesium deficient and need to take Magnesium continuously for few weeks before taking Borax. You will have to take the type of Mg with maximum absorption, like Mg Cl oil (massage on skin) or Magnesium Glycinate tablets.
Magnesium deficiency causes borax to produce all sorts of side effects. Same goes with Vitamin D. They all work together.
If you have already been taking Mg and Vitamin D from before, then this could be borax allergy.
Borax is a salt of boric acid. Salt is the key word here. Salt draws or retains water in the body, so, likely, borax is doing just that.
One issue concerning oedema, or excess fluid build up in tissues, if oncotic pressure. from Wikipedia….
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oncotic_pressure
"Oncotic pressure, or colloid osmotic pressure, is a form of osmotic pressure exerted by proteins, notably albumin, in a blood vessel's plasma (blood/liquid) that usually tends to pull water into the circulatory system. It is the opposing force to hydrostatic pressure. It has a major effect on the glomerular filter pressure.Throughout the body, dissolved compounds have an osmotic pressure. Because large plasma proteins cannot easily cross through the capillary walls, their effect on the osmotic pressure of the capillary interiors will, to some extent, balance out the tendency for fluid to leak out of the capillaries. In other words, the oncotic pressure tends to pull fluid into the capillaries. In conditions where plasma proteins are reduced, e.g. from being lost in the urine (proteinuria) or from malnutrition, there will be a reduction in oncotic pressure and an increase in filtration across the capillary, resulting in excess fluid buildup in the tissues (edema).
The large majority of oncotic pressure in capillaries is generated by the presence of high quantities of albumin, a protein that constitutes approximately 80% of the total oncotic pressure exerted by blood plasma on interstitial fluid. The total oncotic pressure of an average capillary is about 28 mmHg with albumin contributing approximately 22 mmHg of this oncotic pressure. Because blood proteins cannot escape through capillary endothelium, oncotic pressure of capillary beds tends to draw water into the vessels. It is necessary to understand the oncotic pressure as a balance; because the blood proteins reduce interior permeability, less plasma fluid can exit the vessel. [1]
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My experience with borax is like yours, it leads to fluid retention and generalized oedema. Being extremely salt sensitive is one facet of the problem for me, but low protein intake is also involved. Becoming vegan, I'm not eating enough protein which leads to low oncotic pressure and the following exit of fluid from capillaries into tissue.
I notice the difference when larger amounts of protein are ingested. Large amounts of vegetalbes, greens fresh and cooked help with diuresis, especially consuming dandelion greens which are know for their diuretic effect.
However, even when my diet is perfectly maintained, using borax [ as a candida remedy, which actually works ] within the hour I can feel and see my legs swell, and end with generalized oedema.
So, you may not have a borax allergy, but too much salt intake, or oversensitive to salt, as in sodium borate, or you need to have adequate protein intake. Take caution not to overdo the protein consumption which is not healthy either.
I'm considering trying borax remedy again but must use a diuretic along with it to, hopefully, counteract the swelling.
Wishing you the best of health, with thanks to Earthclinic for its invaluable help,
Sincerely,
Rosemary
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I have been taking diatomaceous earth, using magnesium oil, and started the borax treatment. And my question is since I started the borax prototol suggested on here and all of sudden these pains randomly in my body flared up the pass few weeks which were pains and old injuries I had through a 20 + year period. Such as neck pain, sciatic nerves on both right and left side, both knee, old stress fraction, and more. They come and go it's so weird. So is it because they are getting a treatment they open back up to truly heal. A month ago I had no pain in most of these parts of my body but now I'm feeling achy and harder to move around even though I exercise everyday it's just a little tougher. So should it eventually heal and go away or what should I do? I just found a bump on my small toe. And it hurts.
Going thru something similar right now. 20 yr old injuries on a detox coming back. It's called retracing/healing crises and it's miserable. 6 weeks of hip and knee pain. Can't sleep.
I put 1 teaspoon of borax in a liter of filtered water and have taken 1 teaspoon of this solution per day for a week now and at first I had bloated stomach for 3 days and now everything seems fine and I am going to continue and hope for good things to happen!
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I just started taking Borax solution yesterday (20 Mule Team) – 1 tsp in 1 liter water and taking 2 tsp of that solution per day and I don't feel so good. I feel somewhat continually nauseous. I so want to experience the benefits I've read about!! I don't know whether to take any tomorrow, even at the low dose, although it's likely I will. Really not feeling so hot…
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I am so dissappointed as I was hoping this could be my cure and detox from fluoride poisioning which I received from antibiotics and anesthesia from three surgeries and 30 years of drinking fluoridated water. All of this poison has caused me to have atrial fibulation and high blood pressure. I was so excited to try this but now I have these issues.
I put 1/8 tsp of borax in a half gallon of water and only drank a bit more than half yesterday. I got some severe stomach upset and it started some of my Gerd issues up which in turn raised my blood pressure up to 192/108. I did have some food which I should not have had but now it is hard to tell what if or both could be causing it. I got a stinging sensation in my right big toe after I went to bed last night and it is still there upon awakening. I have a little bit of trouble breathing and kept waking up through the night. I am recovering from esophageal or silent reflux less than three weeks ago and it has been good up until niw.
I have been taking A gi repair supplement that has been working wonderfully, also sleeping on a bed wedge. I wanted desperately for the borax to work and am hoping maybe there is something I can take with it to counteract the stomach upset? My first step is to get the fluoride out, then the mercury and three root canals. Im afraid my heart conditions wont hold out before I can get detoxed and it is so so depressing. I have never been depressed like this in my whole life, I am 52. I hope someone reads this and can help. Thanks.
Donna and Julie, why don't you try with MUCH less for a start?
You are taking far too much! No wonder you feel sick!!!!! Make up 1 litre of filtered water with 1 teaspoon borax – then take 1 teaspoon of THAT diluted solution and dilute AGAIN in a cup of water and take twice a day with food. Start possibly with one teaspoon a day and build up to 3. This is why alternative medicines get a bad rap and taken off the market because people overdo it. Also, for the first few days there is the possibility of the Herxheimer effect, where you might feel ill, it supposedly means the treatment is working. If you feel ill, stop for a couple of days and start again, building up slowly as you get used to it.
I guess everyone is different!
I started off by taking 1/2 teaspoon of borax twice each day. I went through a couple of days of flew like symptoms, a few days after I started taking it. I cut back to 1/4 teaspoon twice each day.
Now after 2 months, I have no side effects and feel great, mind you I also exercise regularly and eat mostly fat and protein except on exercise days where I eat more carbs.
People should be more concerned about eating that processed stuff and not so concerned about natural stuff that comes out of the ground.
How many people know if they're getting too much or too little calcium, magnesium, zinc, copper, E, C, D, B, etc… Not many I think. I'm 56 and in better shape than when I was in my 20s!
If your not eating fish, leafy greens, nuts, etc…, then your fighting a battle with only twinkies in your hands.
Are you taking Magnesium? You should be taking extra magnesium and for sure with any heart condition. Borax does wonders for me but I also take magnesium and trace minerals in general. Also, one must get rid of sugar/high carb processed foods in diet.
What type of magnesium do you take?
I started taking boron. Doing the 1/8th teaspoon in a liter of water. I think I might of used a little more than 1/8 as I don't have a 1/8 measuring spoon. My face did get flushed and my heart sped up a bit.
But night time was the worse! I had terrible gas pains and discomfort! And kept getting up to go to the bathroom for some relief. I'm thinking from reading the blog that I was detoxing.
This is the second day and I'm still not feeling like my old self. I only took it once and not planning to do it again and want to warn anyone to start with a very small amount. I'm planning to get some ginger root and making some tea to help me feel better.
Can anyone tell me when I'll be over this??! Normally I'm very healthy and feel good everyday. Thanks for your help!
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I have tried to take boron on several occasions. The first few times I was fine. The last 2 times I definitely had adverse effects. I immediately felt faint and my body tingled. Then my heart began to race and I felt like I may die. This was from drinking only a few gulps from a 1 1/2 liter pitcher of water I had added less than 1/8 teaspoon of boron. I had to drink a lot of milk and have a meal for the effects to subside. It took a while. Had that moment when I thought I had killed myself and it would be too late to call poison control(never did). The diarrhea that came within 30 minutes did not feel related to drinking the milk. Needless to say I am done with the Borax/boron. Hope this helps someone. God bless.
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I take Synthroid 100. When I take Borax I get a headache and I can feel it in my thyroid right away. I get too hyper. My cheek bones hurt me. Now I will stop with coffee and only drink chamomile tea to calm myself.
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I started using 1/8 of a teaspoon of Borax in a litter of water. I drank 1/3 of the mixture last night, 1/3 this morning and will drink the rest tonight. I am having this intense full feeling. Like I have eaten 3 plates of Thanksgiving dinner lol. Is this normal when it starts working on the gut? Any suggestions? Thanks in advance for help.
I started taking 1/8 teaspoon of Borax mixed with a liter of water and divided it in 3 equal parts yesterday. During the day I had a full feeling in my stomach. Last night after the third dose I got really jittery, my body aches like I had the flu and I was shaking like I had a fever. ( Temp within normal range ) My throat hurts and I am really stiff today. This is the first time I have done anything natural. Should I slow down and if so to how much a day? Should I stop?
I have been reading through people's boron use reviews and I can't understand why people want not just do as they're told with this natural treatment! The recommendation is to take 1/4 for males and 1/8 for females TEASPOON of Borax and put it in a LITER of water and SIP it THROUGHOUT the DAY. Why people are disregarding that advice and adding more borax than recommended or just dividing the solution into three parts and gulping it down and then experiencing adverse reactions is beyond my understanding. Just FOLLOW the RECOMMENDATIONS!!!
Natural does not mean harmless; you still have to follow protocol or you can harm your body.
I wanted to try the Borax, because of yeast infection and living where there is a lot of fluoride in the water. I measured a little more than 1/8 tsp in 2pints of distilled water. Just started so no kind of reaction yet or "if", but does anyone else have a kind of a bitter taste in your mouth after you drink some? Seems to last.
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I have a question regarding to borax intake and reactions, I try three months ago , I use the 20 mule team brand , I Starting on a higher dose Lower dose for low to normal weight – 1/8 teaspoon of borax powder in 1 liter clean water); drink spaced out during the day 5days and 2 resting days I did for 2weeks , after that I start to feeling some reactions on my left shoulder like muscle spams and tingling on my left arm and numbness on my index finger this still bothers me, I stop to use the borax after I feeling those symptoms , them they stop and I start the
Standard dose:
This is for people without mineral deficiency symptoms.
1 tsp (5 ml) of concentrate added to a glass of water. This contains 25 – 30 mg of borax , symptoms came back now I felling my back is bother me as well , I stop the borax intake at all , all the symptoms still bother me just in the left area shoulder and arm , my index finger is a little normal chest muscle are contracting like tetany ,
I try to increase my magnesium intake I been doing that for three weeks sometimes I feel better but the symptoms still there , please this has been too long could you please tell me what to do. Thank you
You could be experiencing a herxheimer reaction. When there is a marked die-off of the ineffective critters there is also a release of their toxic make-up; and the result is aches and pains.
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Can anyone tell me why my kidneys hurt when I take the borax?
Borax is an effective antimicrobial against a number of fungal or mycoplasma species so if one has these infections and the B kills a bunch of them you can experience the "herx" or "die-off" reaction of the waste products going through the system, especially the urinary.
Also Borax can displace certain heavy metals like fluoride which again sends those toxic substances back into the blood, lymph, or urinary systems to be detoxified or eliminated.
Natural Caffeinated beverages like Coffee or Green & Black Tea helps diuresis. Since too much caffeine is not a good thing for the nervious system, herbs to further help elimination to be taken with the drink is Chaparral and Parsley. ACV is also good for metabolism and elimination. Occasional Cranberry helps eliminate pathogens in the U.T.
Irma, you might possibly be taking much more than your body can handle.
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Anyone know why I get heartburn from drinking borax water? I am female and used the 1/8 tsp in a liter of water this morning. After the first drink, I started to get reflux which only got worse as the day went on and I continued to drink it. Is this to be expected when first starting borax water (like a die off type reaction) or should I quit drinking it?
Dear Lynn,
I would try way less. My husband uses less than 1/16th of a teaspoon in his water throughout the day. The normal dose of 1/4 teaspoon a day (for a man) caused him digestive distress. Even that small an amount is helpful.
~Mama to Many~
Thanks Mama! I will lower my dose and try again.
I would think it is low stomach acid. The solution neutralizes the acid in your stomach because it is alkaline (think baking soda mixed with vinegar=water). The low level of acid makes the LES (lower esophageal sphincter) get sloppy and what acid you do have left splashes up into the esophagus.
This is the reason I can't take the borax water or the potassium ascorbate water or the magnesium water, or the etc etc…
I don't know if taking a betaine HCl with your borax water would help or not.
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I used 1/8 tsp in litre of water for Borax treatment. I had herximer reaction and my heart raced for hours. I only took 1 tsp internally. The next day I just dipped my finger in it and did not take it internally and my heart still raced for hours. I drank a lot of water and it finally subsided for a while and started again. Do you know why this is happening???
Emergency Please:
I need advise: I ingested borax solution, made of 1 teaspoon for 250 ml, taking 100 ml a day, 3 to 5 days I believe. I bathed in borax dissolved in water (10 soupspoons with full bathtub). I bathed in cayenne pepper as well I am taking 3 neem capsules 3 times a day plus herbal sirop twice a day, apple cider vinega in water in the morning I don t know f it has to do with the treatment only or with food as well…but started to feel heavy in the stomach, not able to intake any of those tastes and medication I stopped everything for 1 day
Then I tried to ingest apple cider vinegar in the morning but immediately vomited it and as I have an undetected pulmonary (cough since 2007) problem, I started also coughing while vomiting and some blood came out in the mucus.
What shall I do? I am drinking massive garlic cinnamon turmeric herbal teas since more than two months, with essential oils which I stopped recently as I felt it could be too much and didn t know the interaction of borax and essential oils internally.
Thank you indeed. Sabe
Hello Sabe;
Re the problems you are having with stomach…
First, you are taking too much Borax orally. You are taking a teaspoon of Borax every two and a half days!!! ??? Where did you get that formula? And what are your symptoms that you are on such a formula.
Second, you say you are taking an herbal syrup…what is it made of?
If me…well, if me I'd never have taken so much Borax orally. And certainly not for so long. You don't want to cause problems. So again what is the condition that you are trying to resolve?
But I'm afraid…whatever you're working on that some other damage might have occurred. If me, and this doesn't resolve FAST, I'd be at my Gastroenterologist … like pronto.
Please fill us in on what condition and symptoms you are having. Have you been diagnosed?
But I'd stop all the items you listed…. everything. Until my situation settled down. I think … reading all the things you are throwing at your system that the combination also might be overwhelming.
Garlic is a known blood thinner so be careful.
'Massive doses' of garlic would cause a haemorrhage if you had surgery or a severe wound.
As with everything, research every supplement before you take it and moderation in everything.
Best wishes for good health, Rosemary
I am a 42 y/o female, and I take 1/8 teaspoon borax with 1 liter purified water 3 days a week. I started taking the borax in October, and only take it 3 days a week, 2x a month to start. I noticed that my right breast gets very sore, enlarged with a hard spot and redness on that spot every time I take the borax. The very first time I used the borax, even my right armpit was enlarged and painful, like a 7 out of 10 pain, I'm serious. I have fibercystic breasts and keep the pain under control with the flax oil/rosemary lignans/ evening primrose oil compound that I take every day, but ever since I started taking the borax, this breast pain is unbearable.
I read lots of posts here and saw someone mention that borax increases estriol levels – is that true? Can anyone provide an explanation as to what is going on with my breast? From its appearance, the redness, enlargement, and warm to the touch, I would guess that its an infection. Thanks so much in advance for your help.
The reason I am taking the borax is because I have fibromyalgia and Dr Ted recommended I discontinue the tap water, and start drinking purified water, start alkalizing, and start with the borax to detox from all the fluoride/chlorine I've been drinking my whole life. Ever since I started this protocol, in addition to all the essential vitamins, I have been fibromyalgia free (yaaay!!! ). But this breast pain is preventing me from increasing my borax intake levels for fear of the breast pain getting worse.
Jasmine, read up on painting iodine for your condition.
I am replying to this because I seen your taking evening primrose and thought I would comment because I'm going thru menopause and started taking evening primrose and my hot flashes got so much more worse. Then I read where it makes you estrogen dominant so I stopped EPR and started black cohosh. Wonder if the EPR is making your breast worse, cause I read that borax helps normalize hormones. Just a thought.
Thank you mmsg and Sharon; I appreciate your replies. Sharon, I had no idea EPR may cause estrogen dominance – I've been taking it for about 5 years but just 4 months ago starting this problem with the breast pain – I will research this further thank you.
I was going to post a follow up tonight anyway to let you all know for information purposes that the day after I posted that breast pain incident, I got my period. That certainly takes this in a different direction. I will continue to watch for a pattern. Thanks so much everyone for this awesome website:)
I don't know about borax side effects, but I have been reading about iodine for fibrocystic breasts – you might want to look into this.
My fibromyalgia symptoms are back with a vengeance and doubled. Alkalyzing not helping. I have tried to tell my doctors that these symptoms all started, in stages, after taking levaquin. They do not agree. If the cause of my pain is found, won't it help find a cure? And why isn't Alkalyzing helping me anymore? It has stopped working for over a month now, even with same lifestyle walking, vitamins, fluoride free water. Pain now so severe, wakes me in sleep. Thank so much in advance.
Hi I was dx with breast cancer! I used green drinks and it worked great to change my ph to alkaline. I have no idea about borax or the side effects. I would use a safer method like a green drink powder from Health food store. Hope this helps, Marlene ps cancer free 7 years
Hi Marlene, I am so glad to hear that you are cancer free!!! That is awesome. I just started doing the green drinks again over weekend I started. Thank you so much
Please check out mega-dose thiamine. I'm trying it right now and it is helping me a lot. Hope it helps you too, if you do try it.
If you took levaquin, you are probably suffering from Fluoroquinolone Toxicity. There are many sirs that can email what is going on with you, as Dr.'s will not admit to it.
Jasmine, it is the Levaquin. If your doctors, even with all the new lawsuits, research, ect on the danger of ALL Fluoroquinolones antibiotics like Levaquin, Cipro, Avelox, ect, do not agree, you need to leave them and find a Dr that can at least agree to the dangers and begin to help you. Levaquin and Cipro are what has made me so sick and trying to find a cure for neuropathy, atrial fibulation and high blood pressure from it. Good luck!
Can you elaborate on the use of Cipro (antibiotics) and neuropathy? I was hospitalized 3 times and they used antibiotics and I have neuropathy now! No diabetes and get my blood sugar tested annually too.
In reply to Karen (Mi),
Here are some links that should help elaborate on the link from Cipro to neuropathy:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4528905/
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/09/25/fluoroquinolone-antibiotics.aspx
https://www.naturalhealth365.com/side-effects-of-cipro-fluoroquinolones-1440.html
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