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I tried MMS in the past. I couldn't get higher than the 10 drops while ramping up per the instructions. I did feel rather bad after taking it, not sure if I had die off, but after my week of using it, the smell definitely made it a one time experience. I wouldn't do it again as I didn't see any benefits. However, I have been using borax in water 5 days on/2 days off – for about 3 weeks… I feel rather tired which I attribute to possible detox. However, my skin looks better and I can tell my feet appear to be shedding a bit of old fungal skin which is nice. I take 1/8 tsp in water a day and usually make a match tea with it in the morning. I sometimes will take a hot bath with 1 cup of epsom salt and 1 tblsp of borax and it does make my skin feel good, yet a bit dry… it does seem to be helping with healing.
Most borax I buy is a B.P. grade and a U.S.P. grade borax from a chemical supplier. Those are grade are often used that are pharmaceutical grade. However, those that are gotten from natural sources (e.g. borax) and go relatively unprocessed, that is unadded of additives or anything are often labeled 100% Sodium tetraborate or Borax. Without anything else.
My experience is that free heavy metals found in these product found in supermarket, are not as high as those found in more processed foods (baked goods are off the charts with me) and tap water we usually drink (my toxic heavy metals come from the drinking water and rice cooker), or even in more Organic foods and fertilizers which is very high in heavy metals.
Most contaminants from the products I used are heavy metals and they often come from frying pans, aluminum tea pots, aluminum rice cookers, iron pots & pans, or foods that has gone through a lot of processing such as fast food and chocolates, for example. Even Diet Coke is actually very toxic to me, if I have all the appropriate diagnostic devices to find out people will know the real source of toxicity which is from the benzene (sodium benzoate), bisphenol A (plastic degenerates into a pseudoestrogen Bisphenol A) and aspartame (degrades in the body to formaldehyde) and causes me to be diabetic and other sickness- long term ingestion may be more permanent).
I have actually been offline for almost a week being quite sick of neural disorder, from accidentally ingesting this product hidden in some foods they actually have added in the food at a restaurant (aspartame, sometimes they hide in coffee, but they do not REQUIRE LABELING – secret formula and GRAS status of aspartame), but never have I experienced any sickness from the use of supermarket borax or sodium carbonate labeled at 100%.
I actually have a dithizone tests and other tests of heavy metal to check for presence of mercury, lead, cadmium, iron etc. and most of the problems I have encountered came more from fertilizers, tap water, insecticides, water filter, certain pots and pans (cadmium, iron, aluminum).
The reason for all the fear of chemicals and legal disclaimer is that the seller is not given permission by the government for internal consumption even IF THE products are ACTUALLY SAFE if we actuall DO THE CHEMICAL PURITIES TEST.
If people have the money to bother to do the impurity tests a lot of people will be surprise to find that quite often the opposite is true, most processed foods and processed water, drinks, etc. are actually more contaminated. I have seen pools of aluminum found in baking goods (they create a sort of electrolysis and the aluminum ends up in the bakery products, baked goods, whenever an aluminum foil is used. People are sick simply just preparing coffee and tea in aluminum tea pots. I have actually found a simple way to check by using a small laser pointer pointing in these liquids and see tyndall effect (which are like rays of light you can see when you drive headlights in a fog). The clearer the rays, the more contaminated is the boiled water. So I tend actually to worry more about processed food than I do getting borax, or sodium carbonate from the source.
The other reason why I don’t worry a lot from their uses is I always take EDTA, or no sugar no milk Green Tea to remove whatever heavy metals I consumed, which is quite often from the office water tank, rice cooker, and other processed foods, rather than sources from natural borax. This is a very slow learning process for most people to unlearn what they have geen taught and I think it is going to take many decades not years for general consumer to realize this fact. I am not entirely optimistic that people will realize this unless they bother to do their own chemical analysis and get the facts straight. The SYSTEM as we know it is a monopoly on medicine and they don’t want people to stray off this area, even if THE SYSTEM doesn’t work.
In general, if I cannot get USP grade, Food Grade, or Analytical Grade borax, I usually end up having to purchase those found in supermarket. I have little choice. I never tell anyone what to buy, it must be noted that I only tell myself what I can or cannot buy. What you do buy, you just have to decide for yourself. There’s a good reason for that, different countries has different standards. However, my own take on the problem is they are relatively pure for most purposes since the quantitities used is actually quite small, such as 1/4 teaspoon per liter of water, so whatever contaminant in the parts per million is reduced fractionally of that amount to multibplied by .001 (about 0.1% percent) of whichever value of contaminant.
It must be noted that a lot of remedies I used is almost like 16th Century medicine and obviously 21st century products isn’t selling anymore or hard to find. Therefore much of the decision, ulimately depends on you. If you want an authoritive figure to decide instead of you (if you trust him but I don’t), then it is likely they will not recommend any natural remedies I post. Unfortunately for them, their treatment is actually killing me several times over, and I ended up saving my own life without much help from anyone else. That’s at least my experience, perhaps, I am unlucky to rely on them.
Hi Ted, just read your comment about using green tea to remove heavy metals from the body. I was concerned as I have read that it contains higher levels of fluoride that black tea. I understand that borax removes fluoride but thought perhaps not best to add more by ingesting further? I have found that coriander removes mecurary at a good level and organic apples help aid removal of alumnium. have you any thought s to help my research further? Thanks. Jess
As far as I know, green tea contains calcium fluoride rather than the sodium fluoride or hydrofluoric acid (H.A. is even worse). I think that CaF may be not as readily absorbed by the body, because it is insoluble, whereas NaF (sodium fluoride) is soluble. It is important to note that even insoluble things such as biogenic silica can be absorbed into the body via the gastrointestinal tract.
However, since I do not know the form of fluoride in green tea, I cannot advocate its consumption. This is due to the fact, that modern agricultural techniques may increase the amount and diversity of the fluorides contained within the tea plant/final product.
Furthermore, I question the duration of many green tea studies showing its beneficial effects. Since fluorides are cumulative, long term studies are necessary to determine the overall impact green tea has on health.I also wonder about the forms of green tea used in many studies. Are they using fluoride free tea? If so then they should mention it.
Also, are there any benefits to using tea with natural fluorides? (I seriously want to know the answer to this.)
Many companies propose to sell fluoride free green tea.
For further reading on fluoride in green tea I recommend this article.
I’ve been adding a pinch of borax to my green tea for awhile. I believe it is a tip I read from Ted. Helps neutralize the fluoride in green tea. If I take a bath, I also add borax (for fluoride) and sodium thiosulfate (for chlorine) to the water before getting in the tub. I had had no adverse affects to either practices.
Hi Teri, thanks for sharing. How much sodium thiosulfate are you adding to your bath water?
Hi Ted, You sound like a knowledgeable fellow so perhaps I am wrong and you are right, however I took some time to find out that baking soda is what we in the UK call Bicarbonate of soda AND Borax is also what we call Bicarbonate of Soda. Baking powder is what we call Cream of Tarter. So as you can imagine your article on treating Rosacea with Borax and Baking Powder is somewhat confusing. Below is one of the articles I tracked down to clarify the terms:
What is Baking Powder and Baking Soda?
Baking Soda is pure Sodium Bicarbonate, also called Bicarbonate of Soda (NaHCO3). It is a white crystalline alkali which reacts by effervescing (fizzing) when it comes into contact with acids, thus producing gasses, namely carbon dioxide. Because of this chemical reaction, it is often used in fizzy drinks and antacid remedies and it’s precisely this reaction which facilitates the rising action in baked goods.
Baking Powder is more complex. It is composite of Sodium Bicarbonate (baking soda), one or more acid salts such as Cream of Tartar (Tartaric Acid), Sodium Aluminium Sulphate, Calcium Acid Phosphate plus a drying agent such as cornflour and the exact mix determines whether it is “Single” or “Double” acting. The difference between baking soda, single and double acting baking powders, is when the chemical reactions actually take place, and is explained below. However, the rising principal is the same in that a chemical reaction produces carbon dioxide bubbles which expand through the cooking mixture.
TAKEN FROM: http://www.recipes4us.co.uk/Specials and Holidays/Baking Powder and Soda Origin Uses Recipes.htm
Calcium Fluoride is a tissue salt used in homeopathic medicine. Sodium Fluoride is a poison used in the poison “1080” at 23 p.p.m as a rodenticide.
I just bought a package of what said Borax in my local pint supply store. On the label it says 100% Natriumtetraborat 10 hydrate and not Sodium tetraborate or sodium borate decahydrate that you and this site suggests. I am worried that I bought the wrong kind of product even though it does say Borax on the box. There are also all kinds of warning labels on it like “keep away from children”, “contact doctor if ingested” and “use protective gear when handling”. I guess I should have checked this in the store but I just asked for Borax and got a boc of borax and bought it. Now I just want to know if this is the same product that you recommend or if I bought something else. The content looks like salty powdery crystals. Please advise, thank you.
Natriumtetraborat 10 hydrate (aka Natriumtetraborat Decahydrat) is a synonym for Boraxhttp://www.chemicalbook.com/ChemicalProductProperty_DE_CB1187397.htm
Na2B4O7 * 10H2O, (Borax = Natriumtetraborat)http://www.rasmusfrandsen.dk/growth_media.htm
My 20 Mule Borax (Sodium tetraborate) has the same warning and consistency. Remember your only taking a little bit (e. G. A pinch to 1/4 teaspoon a day max) several days a week at most and then a few days off for the body to flush itself.
Thank you for putting this information out there however I am confused about the topical solution dosages.
I have been using borax internally for a couple of weeks with little to no improvement for what has been diagnosed as rosacea, I mostly got very dry skin so now I want to try the topical version in combination with internally ingesting borax.
I also tried a candida cleanse (some suggest that excessive candida can be the cause of rosacea) using oil of oregano along with a mixture of natural ingredientssupposed to take care of the problem in a capsule. No luck there either so now I am looking back at the borax / hydrogen peroxide treatment.
I can get 3% hydrogen peroxide from the pharmacy here, will it work?
To make a facial cream, how much peroxide should I use in combination with borax? Should I mix with water? I am most comfortable with measurements in ml or tsp / tbsp. Thank you in advance for any reply!
Here is some thing that may be of interest to go along with these comments about borax. There is a alternative on the internet that is or was relative easy to get and it works because I have used it on myself and my dogs. It is called mms now and it used to be called by its chem name of sodium clorete, used in water treatment for years. This man named Jim humble used it here in the U.S., South America, Africa and other countrys and it is still being used extensively over seas. He has a web site and there was a free ebook down load(over i20 pages. There was a doctor over 50 years ago that used this, I had a sister and a uncle that did the treatment and was cured. It works but it tastes horrible to me. I had a dog that I think contacted this west nile virus and after 3 trips to the vet that was wasted money I mixed some with dsmo and gave him 3shots 1 each and he completly recovered. Jim says that it will kill malaria fever in 36 hrs. He has cured aids, hepatitis b and c. He says it will kill all kinds of parasites internally. He says it will stop or neturalize poisons, he said he gave a dog some that was bitten by a snake and he didn’t get sick. I have another dog that came home sick could hardly get around, didn’t eat only drank a little water for two days. I don’t what she had got into but I gave her the same dosage that I gave the other dog and by the third day she was back to normal. I think she may have gotten into some poison. I think it would be to your benefit not mine to go on his web site and down load the ebook if it is still available.
Before taking MMS please do some research online. I was intrigued by the above post and decided to look into it myself. While I don’t doubt that there are often impediments in place to prevent natural remedies from taking off, there are multiple countries that have been involved in bans and lawsuites regarding MMS. From what I have found, it is essentially industrial strength bleach. Wikipedia has a decent summary with multiple references you can check out for yourself. While I know we are all eager to find solutions for our ailments, we have to be wary of so-called miracle cures. On a different note, I’m excited to try borax for my atopic dermatitis after having read about it for the last couple hours! 🙂
Re the MMS – it is not bleach. People trolling Wikipedia change it every time it is corrected. (anyone can change WP) It is a well known sucessful remedy. Please look into it and make your own judgment without the erroneous statments on WP. I use it, it tastes disgusting, but they have created CDS now which takes out the taste. It is in the food chain, used to preserve meat and erradicate bugs. A surgeon has tried to patent it as a topical cleanser post surgery.
Agree, you should look for yourself on the internet and not just in wikipedia, wich is a not trusted source of information for alternatives healing. I’m using CDS for 2 weeks now (after 3 days with MMS) and so far so good. Too early to say anything but I believe there is already some healthy changes on my skin. I have a very severe dermatitis that i’m trying to heal.
Hi Ted, and anyone else out there, firstly I’d like to thank you for this wonderful website and the help it’s providing to so many!
I wanted to know if borax at the 1/8 teaspoon in 1 lt of water taken 3 days and/or for 4 is too much for an elderly person?
My mum is 87 yrs suffering from chronic arthritis and pneumonia, last year we thought we would lose her at the hands of the hospital due to the excessive amounts of drugs. I would like to try it with her before winter returns.
The reason I ask is I know it’s highly alkaline and Dr Sircus mentions in his book for Bicarb therapies not to take more than 3 x 1/2 teaspoon bicarb per day if over 60. ( I assumed it was due to the alkalinity) and wondered if it’s the same with Borax.
As for me, I’ve suffered for over 15 years now from Ricketzzia, micoplasma pneumonia, and an explosion of candida (which doctors couldn’t be bothered to diagnose). I found that with so many antifungals like olive leaf extract, colloidal silver, and even the bicarbonate didn’t complete the job. The problem was chronic.
After 3 day of taking borax as prescribed: 1/8 teaspoon in 1 lt of water in 1 day for 3 days, I already feel brand new. I will repeat next week and possibly for a third if needed, then I’ll go onto the maintence dose.
God Bless you guys, I wish I had found you sooner!
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I found an amazing product called S___ Z-lite which has a small amount of fulvic acid that started to bring my libido back and then I started on the protocol of 1/4 teaspoon of sodium carbonate and sodium bicarbonate in water. Been doing this for a little over a week with four days of 1/4 teaspoon of borax in water and three days off. I believe that I got the H. Pylori 15 years ago in Africa. Ever since I started this protocol I wake up feeling worse every morning. My stomach is very uncomfortable in the mornings. Each morning it feels worse than the morning before. This morning I feel like I am going to pass out. Should I stop this protocol. Or are these just die off symptoms?
Massimo: Seems like you might could prosper from some H2O2 drops.
Thank you Tim. I will research that. Since this feeling I have not taken the morning sodium carbonate and sodium bicarbonate drink to give my body a break but have now figured out that I may have been experiencing die off symptoms from the H. Pylori. I figured this out because I starting taking Cayenne pepper capsules and I feel nauseous which leads me to believe they are die off symptoms. Does anybody know if the burning of the stomach after taking the cayenne pepper capsules is also a die off symptom of H. Pylori, or would anybody experience that?
Cayenne pepper burns my stomach as well. You might cut back on this or try coating the stomach first with an oil such as coconut oil. If you are taking a lot of capsules, cayenne will burn horribly. To me, it is like letting cayenne sit on your tongue for a minute. Painful! I like it hot but if you have ever had an ulcer, cayenne pepper (at least for me) can be too irritating to the stomach unless mixed with food in small amounts..
Years ago a homeopathic doctor prescribed the cayenne pepper caps for my husband. But he did explain that if you do not put at least a small amount on your tongue first to tell your brain to prepare your stomach for it that it can cause a bad burning in your stomach. The easiest way was tomato juice or v-8 or even better v-8 spicy. Just half a cup at most and add just a small pinch of the pepper. Drink that and then take your pepper caps with water. It made a world of difference.