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BETTER BUT WITH SIDE EFFECTS
I began assembling Bill Thompson's Anti Candida protocols in Aug of this year, and approached it very cautiously. I have had Candida since infancy and am so awed and impressed by Bill's cogent and practical approach to addressing the problem.
I have been adding his remedies slowly, and am able to tolerate 70% of his suggested remedies about 3-4 days a week, on average.
When I first began taking turpentine in September, I had a severe reaction to just one drop (albeit on an empty stomach in VCO). Headache, brain-fog, exhaustion were the main issues.
I only took it once, but the side effects lasted for 10 days, and then I discovered that I had a serious bone infection around implants and needed surgery which I underwent, complete with a course of antibiotics – which surprisingly, did eliminate the worst of the infection.
However, I am very concerned about the infection returning, so I read a post somewhere that turpentine was effective in getting rid of the need for a root canal, so I began oil pulling with VCO and 1 drop of DMSO and 1 drop of turpentine this week. It feels like the infected area in my mouth and jaw are fizzing – in a good way. I followed up on the oil pulling with a DMSO/Turp 1:1 drop mouth wash and as long as I drink 2-4 liters of water a day, I can live with the slight headache and discomfort. I am also alkalizing 3 times a day – 1/4 tsp basking soda with 6-8 drops of iodine in a half a glass of water.
So, in sum, yes, awful side effects when I started, but with the increased supplements, Milk Thistle and Iodine, I seem to be tolerating the turpentine better now – and the effects are awesome. I am so grateful to Earth Clinic and all who share on here.
I did four straight days of 100% pure gum spirits of turpentine. Ten drops first day, fifteen second day, twenty third day. Each dose in a teaspoon of pure cane sugar. Fourth day I took one teaspoon in two tablespoons of castor oil. Everything taken on empty stomach, washed down with water, about a half liter.
On the third day, I had no sugar cravings, whatsoever. I always eat something sweet, several times, during the day. So, had nothing sweet day three and four.
Two to three hours after the turpentine/castor oil dose, I took an intense poo poo. Really cleaned me out. Felt a little tired afterwords, for a couple of hours, then felt great rest of the day. When you do the turpentine/castor oil dose, you want to have a bathroom available about two hours later.
I'm doing this protocol to rid myself of excess yeast, candida, mold, fungus from my body. I want to get my blood pressure down, the natural way, and hope this regimen helps do so.
Side effect reported
Thank you for sharing your experiences. I came across this page looking for more first hand experience and noted side effects. I have been preparing my body for turpentine dosing; closely following Dr. Daniels instructions. I have been taking the Vitality Capsules for 3 weeks and has worked the best for detoxifying my system and was seeing 3BM/day.
The reason I began this method of treatment is to remedy parasitic infection of liver flukes, pinworms, and possibly tapeworm. Symptoms I am experiencing are: irritability, constipation, stomach cramping, skin rash, excessive phlegm which is affecting my ENT and eyes.
I felt I was ready to begin using turpentine. The first dose I took was a 1/2 tsp dose. I had slight dizziness, and increased heart rate. I felt fine the next day. So I took another dose. This second dose I took was just under 1/4 tsp. The following day, I felt absolutely miserable. My muscles in my neck and back and shoulders were unbearably stiff. My eyes are bloodshot and my throat and ears hurt so bad I can hardly swallow. I am very surprised by how severe my side effects are from the turpentine dose. The phlegm I'm coughing up is electric neon green and my eyes excrete the slimy buggers at night. So much so that my eyes are 'glued' shut as if I have pink eye. I am very unnerved by my reaction. It has been 3 days since my last turpentine dose and only 1BM/day since then.
I hope my body can continue to detox whatever is making me feel ill. This is my first step to recovery using this regiment and want to stick with it. Please if anybody can comment or shed some light on what is happening to help me understand what is happening to me would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for reading and God Bless.
What brand of turpentine are you using?
Jon, Using D. G brand.
When you take it you are supposed to mix it with something as far as castor oil, coconut oil or some mild laxative. So you can have at least 3 bowel movement a day. 1 full tsp at a time. Mostly effective with clean bowel on empty stomaches.
Mardell, I'm taking the turps with honey. I still take the vitality caps to stay regular, though I've cut back from 3-4 cap/day to 2/day. I am now alternating turp doses with diatomaceous earth. The worst side effects have began to settle and regularly seeing symptoms of die off.
Today is my first day to this thread. Yes your detox had begun. Continue with the Turpentine Regimen (1/2 to 1 teaspoon for 4 days and rest 2 days. It's important to drink plenty of water.
Thank you Ludi. I am still working on my detox. I have made drastic changes in my diet (raw vegetarian) and feeling clarity now that the candida is dying. I will continue the turps protocol for parasites. I have switched my carrier from honey and now using blackstrap molasses. Much more potent and needing to use less. I still use the DE and supplementing flushing liver/kidneys with borax and Epsom salts protocols. I will also begin taking coconut butter. Thank you for the support.
Try MMS at night and turpentine in am, keep taking vitality caps.
This is a reply two the person who is having boogery eyes and neon green phlegm. You are full of multiple parasites common infections and microbials. You're having herx. It's okay, look it up, you're going through die off and multiple systems . Your herx will be intense. I would take your turpentine for two weeks straight without a break and Ionly a two-day break then start again. This may take you two months to get through all that you're going through. A four-day break will reveal to you if you have solve the problem or not. If you start feeling like crap again then you know you are not finished. I'm glad that you are on this treatment because it sounds like you need it really bad. More than you even ever knew. You obviously got fungus in your respiratory system really bad. It would be great if you posted it update as you go through this for people that have the same symptoms, results, and herx, meaning side effects and results of die off.
Bentonite clay & Coffee Enemas can help get you through the detox symptoms.
It sounds like you took the wrong kind of turp, you should have had 100 percent pine gum spirits…hopefully your alive now as this was a year ago
Dr Hulda Clark mentions that when we kill a worm or larger parasite that they usually have much smaller pathogens inside them and that some have parasites 3 levels deep.
When the first dies, the others come out and then you have to kill those and then more can come out of those and then, you have to kill them the 3rd time, hence the 3 cycles on the zapper. I'm sure this holds true with turpentine too.
I would assume that you would need at least 3 servings to get them all.
It sounds like you already had an infection brewing right on the edge and the turpentine kicked it off. Get your D levels up before doing turpentine, so your immune system can handle it.
You have to be pooping 3x a day to eliminate side effects. Its coming out wherever it can run to escape the turpentine. Get your bowels moving either with natural supplements, enema, fiber or colonics. Also taking some charcoal to absorb toxins daily. ðŸ‘
I have been on the Candida Diet since July but went off of it for about a week while on vacation the first week of Sept. Hence, my Candida fueled and I got a UTI. It was so bad I finally had no choice to go to the DR. for a Urine Analysis. My numbers were off the chart for infection and pain started to travel to my kidneys, so against my better judgement, I went on an antibiotic. Symptoms only subsided for the UTI, but the vaginal yeast was the worst I ever had in 20 yrs. I did the round of antibiotics but the my kidneys still hurt and my vaginal yeast only got worse. I found the turpentine remedy and have been eating anti-candida foods for several weeks. I have been doing Turpentine stupes (soaked towels in hotwater and Turpentine) on my back to help draw out any poisons or break up stone if there are any. I do organic coffee enemas regularly and pass alot of Candida, gross but a good thing. My colon stays pretty clear with all of the ongoing detox I have been doing, including taking Dr. Daniels suggestion of Castor Oil.
I will be going to Cancun on Dec 1st. How many weeks should I take the Turpentine and will I still feel icky by Dec if I start this regimen? I have already experienced quite a bit of die off already and managing pretty well with charcoal or bentonite clay and enemas. Should I start the Turpentine in hope to better for our trip or is the process going to lead into the trip and I should wait? Obviously, you cant take turpentine on the plane and besides, I want to enjoy the trip, not detoxing and still trying to kill candida….please advise.
Can I take the turpentine remedy if my kidneys are still hurting even after my rounds of antibiotics?
Perhaps you should first take some Milk Thistle (450mgs twice a day with meals), Chanca piedra (take the tea form 3 times a day) and ALA (300 mgs twice a day with meals) and perhaps gram doses of Vitamin C (Ascorbate form) which will all help to get rid of the anti-biotic poisons still in your body before you try the turpentine. This triple regimen will certainly help to detox and remove specific poisons, heavy metals and damaging xenobiotics from your body. Then, after about a month, try the turpentine at one teaspoon per daily dose. I would also alkalize your body using the sodium bicarbonate and water protocol twice a day as Ted from Bangkok advises. Anitbiotics can be extremely acidic for the body and that's how they damage the kidneys.
To be honest about it, if it were me, I would just take the turpentine. Among it's major beneficial effects — apart from killing all forms of pathogens — is to purify the blood completely. This outcome is also bound to have a beneficial knock on effect which will help to recover both the kidneys and the liver in the long run.
Bill, my daughter suffers from fibro and chronic fatigue. Her metal tests go off the page.
Is it possible the turpentine protocol could assist in removing these metals?
I understand the caution required as a high load of metals pulled out at all at once can cause Mercury to travel to the brain where it does irreparable damage.
Your mention of turpentine as a blood cleanser caught my attention.
Thank you for all you do here.
Taking ALA twice a day only, at high dose, can damage a metal toxic person. I know I've tried it. The Cutler protocol is what I now follow and I'd recommend someone with a high heavy metal load to check it out. you could likely do both Bill's and the Cutler protocol together – not at the same time – but one helps the other. From what I've read, it's impossible to get well if you are heavy metal toxic.
You could have a bottle of turp mailed to your hotel to arrive when you do if you want to continue using it while you are there.
Hi, I believe you can take a 1/2 oz bottle of pine needle oil on a plane which is the same as turpentine just make sure it goes into your main suit case and keep it tightly sealed. I actually ordered some from piping rock in the past initially and their bottles have great droppers with no mess so now what I do is fill those little bottles up with Diamond g turpentine which makes it very easy to use for baths and consuming. The dropper bottles are the best!
Hello, I have a question regarding my candida. I am in a terrible state – weight 42kg, psoriasis, spitting white saliva, hair loss… So I am sure my candida is in the fungus state – embedded in the gut tissues. I have tried taking turpentine for a week but felt absolutely nothing. Is is supposed to work against this fungus protected by biofilm? I am desperate, as I've been trying to get myself rid of this illness for a year – diets, untifungals, enemas… but nothing seems to work. Please, help…
M: You can add other natural antibiotics like liquid Neem Extract (is the one I use w/ Turp) to sugar cubes then add the Turpentine. To help remove the pathogens from the colon take a spoon of Milled Flax Seeds before or after the Turp. To further improve this treatment, incorporate the use of a Zapper about 30 min after Turp/Neem/Flax.
Aloe Vera is also good for removing pathogens from the gut lining. Other natural antibiotic herbs you can take are Garlic, Berberine, Oregano, Grapefruitseed, Pau De Arco.
Candida requires a total elimination of sugar in every form from your diet to kill it from your system. No Bread, potatoes, fruits… Lots of water, vegetables, lean meats. No grains. Your symptoms should decrease with consistency.
Agreed! Though I have a little different view on that.
I look at food through the lens of glycemic index, the rate of how fast the food is converted into glucose, or sugar. Sugar in any form and fruits are the highest on the index, followed by starchy vegetables and rice and bread. Vegetables are the lowest.
That being said, the glycemic load of your meal is determined by all the things you put in your stomach, so if you eat cucumbers (very low glycemic index) and white rice (higher glycemic index) in 50:50 ratio in one meal, the glycemic index will be (15+65)/2=40, which is a safe value and will not make you feel worse. If you go over 100 then it is going to be bad. Russet potato taken alone is 111.
I have personally not eaten a single fruit or (knowingly) anything with sugar for the past 6-7 months, and my candida is under control, which of course does not mean it is healed, because I would soon start to feel bad if I ate a fruit or a sweet bread. As long as I avoid sugar and fruits, and always eat carbohydrates, such as rice, potatoes, or bread, with vegetables or dairy products, I feel very good. However, for the past few days I have been eating basically only bread, and my thyroid started to feel bad, which was one of my nastiest symptoms during the acute phase.
Eating this way is a good way to get rid of the symptoms, but it is not a way to heal yourself, so to say, you will be able to eat a fruit.
Thank you for your opinions. But I still believe that if turpentine is supposed to dissolve biofilms and kill candida than I should be feeling something if I take it. I did follow the diet very strictly at the beginning but I felt I only got worse. I belive that the body needs sugar and if you have none, it can result in a lot of harm. And many opinions say that sugar from fruit is absorbed and used by the body much faster before it can feed candida. Maybe the problem is that the turpentine just doesn't reach the large intestine? I mean, some people have a few drops on sugar and immediatly run to the toilet and I have upped the dose to a table spoon – as recommended on some sites and I still feel absolutely nothing. Maybe it just requires more time for the biofilms to dissolve? Any thoughts? I just can't accept the idea that I will be like this for the rest of my life. There has to be something!!!
Hi Marika. Have you managed to resolve your situation?
I followed an essential oil protocol which totally vaporized the candida in my system in 4 months.
There were several things of note as I did the protocol: I felt much better in about 3 weeks, then worse, then it seemed like the fungus was gone – but it wasn't – and that's exactly when you need to stay on the protocol for at least 6 weeks-2 months more. What happens is that the candida goes into "hiding" as it tries not to be eradicated. It will hide anywhere it can in the body, but if you keep going you will out it. Then, you will start to see more elimination/detox happening as the candida tries to fight the death grip happening to it. For me, I was in the throes of the nastiness for about one month. Finally, the internal nastiness was over and then my skin showed signs of candida. This was the final stage for me. It was as though it was coming all the way out and when it got to the skin layer it was near its end.
While I did the candida protocol I also was attacking other bacteria and parasites with different oils. I was clear and clean from these things all told within 6 months. At that point I then proceeded with chemical/metal detoxing and it was a relative breeze.
Some of the oils: lemon, orange internally. Bay leaf for circulation (on my feet and legs), wormwood oil, myhrr and clove, and oregano all on the balls of my feet. Layer the oils onto your feet one at a time – do not pre-mix them.
Could you be a little more specific on how you did this, dosage wise and what type of essential oils you used on your body and safely for the internal. Some say do not consume internally, would like to know what brand you used. Thank You.
Please keep us posted on the turps/sugar approach. I'm keen to start after reading all the feedback. Is anyone taking the vitality caps as recommended by Dr Daniels? Or any other type of laxative? Any info greatly appreciated.
That is exactly what Dr. Daniels is talking about, IF you don't offer the Fungi, parasites a fast way out, Example: the Bowels (best way), It will find another way out. through the skin. Which does not have to happen. Don't suffer. All that you need to do is drink more water, or as Dr. Daniels would say " Make sure your "fast passage" is clear and open", Beforehand, get your bowel movements to two or three a day, drink a quart of water 3 times a day. And then you will not suffer, a skin aliment trying to eliminate.
Take turpentine by the tsp. Mixed with 1 oz of castor oil. Bowel need to be clean. Vegan diet should be maintained throughout process. 2-3 times a week.
I am new to turp and began by liberally dousing myself with several straight teaspoons rubbed all over. No skin issues with that and noticed some systemic relaxation. I'm wondering about the efficacy of this application for internal benefits as well since it's a solvent like dmso and enters the bloodstream thereby. Any thoughts?
Please be careful with the topical turpentine. A lady on this forum applied it topically once for parasites and ended up in the emergency room.
More is not always better. A small amount could be fine and a large amount could be toxic (the dose makes the poison.)
Turpentine used internally or externally should only be used in very small amounts and also diluted with a carrier oil, especially if you are new to turpentine.
Sierra thanks for message. I have had no problems doing full body liniment use of pure turpentine for 5 days now. I tried ingesting 3 drops in water and got nausea so maybe for me now, the topical use is best. Also I see no need for carrier oil since no reactions, not even skin redness. It makes me feel good and makes my skin feel tingly. I have fibromyalgia and I think it's helping. Going to try ingesting again with carrier at some point.
Mixed in 10% olive oil to turp topical absorption method which minimizes turp fumes and may improve absorption by minimizing evaporation of volatile oil on skin. Comments appreciated.
so continuing….did successfully take 1tsp of my turp/oil mixture in some sugar without nausea or other immediate reaction. I realize now, as bill said, turp is not miscible in water so taking even 3 drops turp in glass of water is like taking 3 drops straight, and in my case caused nausea. I did have fairly strong flu-like detox symptoms lasting thru the next day so feel it was good thing to do and will continue and try castor oil next time I think as well as continue the liniment use. I still wonder why I haven't found anyone ever talk about the value of taking turp into the bloodstream thru the SKIN since it's a solvent. Thanks to everyone for this forum.
I want to begin the turpentine protocol but I've heard two somewhat different methods, turpentine and sugar, turpentine and castor oil. My question is can you do both? 1 teaspoon turpentine over 3 sugar cubes with 1 teaspoon castor oil.
Yes you can do that. You can read in the previous comments here where Bill talks about his personal method of taking turp, honey, and castor oil together.
Purchased Diamond G turp and seems bit smoother than kleanstrip. Rubbed on about 1 tbsp turp/olive oil liniment yesterday from neck to feet and felt reaction several hours later of well being and mild instability. This method does work for absorption of turp and has some benefit over ingestion method I.e. no digestive or taste issues. However I can't say if digestive tract pathogens are addressed. Maybe they are addressed at slower pace over longer time since blood stream goes everywhere including digestive tract and organs. In any case, I'm very happy with results so far as fibromyalagia symptoms seem to be relieving gradually and energy increasing plus I smell like pine tree.
Hi Rich, since it has been several months now, would you please update us on using the Turpentine topically. Did it also help your skin as far as blemishes, wrinkles, dryness, etc? Thanks.
Sun fruit Dan on YouTube says you can capsule it along with sugar to deliver to large intestine – I have also read you can encapsulate castor oil and then freeze it before consuming.
Hi, I have systemic candida, and I discovered years ago, from a group of independent doctors online, that MSM, (methylsulfonylmethane) a natural and harmless substance, is effective to control candida, and you can eat what you want. Start with a teaspoon a day, of pure MSM powder, and gradually work up to a TBS or two a day. This, (and God) has kept me alive for twenty years. Expect die off symptoms. At the first sign of headache, immediately take a couple ibuprofen. This should stop the headache. If you don't catch it fast enough though, the headache cannot be stopped. I wish you the best of health!
Do the 35% hydrogen food grade peroxide cleanse. You can add 5 drops in 8 oz. water -3 times a day and gradually move up to 25 drops. Do enemas add a dropper full in full enema bag. Candida biofilm comes out. Google it up. Plenty of info on the internet. I know old post but new people read this.
Had Crohn's disease for 40+ years and cancer four times – 'cured' myself of the last bout.
Candida is the culprit 🙂
Turpentine works on the cell wall of the candida fungus, because it is a terpenoid. There are others that exist too, which I am currently trialing.
Key point, you need to address ALL areas of your environment, not just what you take systemically and atopically. Your mind will determine what chemicals and hormones are being created by the brain.
Balance can be restored, I am proof, although I am still getting there 🙂
Think well, live well and be well – all these environments need to be addressed in order to get back to homeostasis 🙂
All the best for your journeys, for this is what they simply are 🙂
Thanks Bill, for your quick response. I was actually thinking that I was feeling the effects of tge die-off. But, because Im new to these protocols I became worried when the chest pain and upper GI started giving me pains. Mostly after I eat or dinner and lay down. Feels acid reflux that runs all through the night until get up but only started after taking the turpentine. Just got worried thinking I over did it. However, I'm glad to hear of your success with the protocols and thanks for your help. Will
It has been a week since I started the turpentine cure to get rid of candida. My shoulders and neck are stiff and sore now.
I've read this is because of my liver working overtime trying to get rid of all the nasties. I don't want to stop the turp treatment.
Should I do a liver detox? Or is there a supplement I can take to help with the shoulder/neck pain or the liver?
Any suggestions would be nice. Thanks in advance
Bentonite Clay taken orally prior to meals will absorb the nasties.
Yes, stop the terp and do a liver detox…Wilson's organic coffee. I have been doing them since kinda and am in awe of the shoulder pain decreasing more than 50%. I have schluermans kyphosis. Now I know I can be healed of that too.
For a liver detox Ted recommends lecithin and silymarin milk thistle seed extract. Ted says be careful with the silymarin as it will detox you so fast that you could die from the toxic stuff that comes out. Start with a weaker silymarin maybe just once a day. Then when you buy the next bottle of silymarin get the 1000 mg and take it everyday twice a day. Get Bill Thompson's book on Candida. It has a lot of information on how to do this.
After reading all the stuff on Turps, I wanted to try it out as I have many of the symtoms of candida. I got a bottle from a friend, took it home but was very reluctant to start. I took 1/4 tsp mixed with 1 tsp of castor oil. I felt a slight headache but nothing to stop me from my daily chores, it went away later in the day. I took 2 cascara segrada pills to ensure I passed it out, was not sure of this stuff!
I am happy to say, I had a lot of diarreah, the next day my SINUSITIS which had been a major problem for as long as I know myself was gone, I was not getting up to blow my nose all the time, it was GREAT, I also had so much energy, OMG, I started sending emails to all my friends I was elated. I have not taken another dosage I am still scared as they say it can damage your liver & kidneys. The person I gave it to has really red eyes so I am not sure, I wish I knew more about this but the energy increase is sure worth it.
I WISH PEOPLE WOULD POST MORE ABOUT THEIR REACTION. Please…please, we only talk about what we take and why we ara taking it, it sure would be NICE if we talked about the after effects, GOOd or BAD…please…this is a wonderful site, especially in today's society where you can't get nothing but doctors and their prescription pads!
Hi, I second the thoughts on turpentine use. If anyone can share their helpful experiences and even the kind they used. Thanks.
I just started taking the turpentine with honey two days ago. I mixed it a 1:4 ratio. My first dose was 1 teaspoon and then today I took 1/2 teaspoon. Today my throat and tongue feel irritated and I feel as though I am coming down with the bug. I do wish people would post their experiences and side effects. It would certainly help. I am not sure that I will continue this regimen after today.
In response to people asking for side effects on turpentine info…I am a 46-year-old female who started Diamond G Forest turpentine treatment last Wednesday for Candida, and I guess without enough guidance because I didn't realize you weren't supposed to just keep dosing every day until the Candida was cured. So, I started with 1/2 tsp on 1 tsp organic sugar (and it tastes yummy by the way, like a shot of pine flavoring on sugar) last Wednesday, increased to 3/4 tsp turp on the sugar Saturday, then increased again to a full tsp of turp on the sugar I think Tuesday. So I had a full tsp both this Tuesday and Wednesday, then for whatever reason decided to look up more info about this protocol last night, found this forum, and realized maybe 8 days in a row was not a good idea. 🙂 However, I feel fine, so apparently 8 days taking it every day didn't kill me. I will now take a break, probably for about a week, and then do the twice-a-week dosing I'm seeing recommended on here.
OK, so side effects: first day was the most noticeable dizziness, started about 30 min after that first 1/2 tsp of turp, lasted about 20 min max. I had slight dizziness a couple of other days, following that same pattern, sets in about 30 min after dosing and lasts 10-20 minutes. For me, not a biggie, kind of amusing actually, but if it were much worse you'd probably need to go lie down for awhile until it subsided.
Nausea, I only noticed very slightly, first day I took turp and then maybe again the first day I did a full teaspoon. Definitely not a big problem.
Gut cramping/urgent bowel movements, daily at least twice after dosing. For me it would happen after eating something, and from what I've been reading on this forum it sounds like that's what's supposed to happen to clean out whatever was killed by the turp. The gut cramping was not a huge deal, much more tolerable than what Candida overgrowth/IBS cause just in general, and I would say overall I'm feeling much better in the gut department after 8 days on turp. As my family would say, it “cleans you out” in a good way.
Diarrhea, I only experienced one day out of the 8. I think about day 5. No biggie. I like getting cleaned out.
Ok, here's a side effect I haven't seen anyone mention – adrenaline surges, as if you had a strong cup of coffee. In fact, I had to back way off of caffeine this past week while taking turp (and my only caffeine these days is green tea and mate; I quit coffee last summer due to bladder pain that at the time I didn't realize was Candida-related) because I was getting anxious/jittery. Turpentine gave me energy, and then some days I crashed later and had to take a nap, just like coffee does to your system.
I should mention as a caveat to this report of side effects that I've been on a Candida-elimination diet as well as doing some over-the-counter cleanses by RenewLife for the past 2.5 months and prior to that have been vegetarian for the past 12 years (but eating pasta, bread, sugar, coffee, alcohol, etc. over those years.) I take no prescription drugs of any kind on a regular basis, take a lot of supplements like barley powder, fiber supplements, etc. and juice vegetables almost every day, and consider myself to be fairly healthy. (I have had several rounds of antibiotics for annual bladder infections since my 20's though so I think that's where the Candida came in.) So for the past 2.5 months I've had no refined sugar, no dairy, no gluten, almost no fruit, limited grains (and only gluten-free, ) maybe 8 oz total of alcohol for the whole 2.5 months, and of course no meat because I'm vegetarian. I've actually felt so much better on this diet that I've decided to go vegan and avoid refined sugar, white flour, and gluten long-term as well, even after the Candida is gone.
And last but not least, improvements or changes after my week and a day of turpentine dosing: the nagging sinus-scratchy cough I get in the back of my throat at least once a day has greatly reduced and maybe disappeared; I have a long-standing benign cyst of some sort on my left forearm under the skin that has reduced in size (wow! ); my IBS (if that's what it was) seems to be changing, getting better, less bloating and constipation; maybe a slight improvement in sinus cloggage; heel pain greatly reduced to gone; energy levels increased somewhat.
So that's it for my turpentine report, hope this helps someone who is thinking about trying it!
I'm on day 10 of turp and maple syrup stopping and starting. I want to be free of all parasites. I feel a die off and am sleepy. Had diarrhea. I am fruitarian raw vegan. We must keep a clean foods and poop 3x a day so worms can get out. Bought my turp from georgia farm diamond something.
You're probably detoxing. Drink a lot of water after you take it.
So is it ok to eat fruit when parasite cleansing? I'm struggling as to what I can eat. Loosing weight too fast.
HI – just responding to the request for reactions to turps. I was really excited at the thought of this wonder cure and took turps + coconut oil + molasses when I was quite ill from Candida/flu/IBS/mystery gut changes* a couple of weeks ago. As I seemed to have nothing but turps burps as a consequence I thought I'd better be more exact and ordered some castor oil (the cheap stuff is unobtainable in pharmacies here, and I wasn't going to pay health shop prices, so I got it on ebay – organic and good). I've spent the last two weeks preparing- alkalising, using Ted's borax protocol, supplements (Vits C, B comp, K + acidophilus, + oregano oil + glutamine + lecithin + milk thistle + que pedra tea, gymnema sylvestre tea, chrysanthemum tea, + no sugar. I've also been trying borax and epsom salt baths, [I've listed this as some readers on EC seem to like detail – general diet is below**])
So this morning I took the turps, CO, BSMolasses combo and felt all excited about having BMs filled with pathogens/parasites but again nothing, no great expulsion. Did have a few waves of internal tension – quite severe at the peak. I guess this was the fungus 'panicking in fear of the turpentine'. I followed this with eating spirulina (I think it is the 'same' as chlorella for heavy metal attachment – could anyone clarify if this is so? Mine is in the form of a powder, l-eugh! ). I hope that I haven't just sent the fungus to the furthest corners of my bod…
My primary reaction, though is 'eurgh don't like the taste or texture of this combo', and I'd rather take it transdermally. After 3 hours the desired result – and a BM similar to the sort you get when you do a liver cleanse. I just had to be patient.
I have 3 Qs for EC readers – has anyone tried turpentine 'packs' – like castor oil packs? Perhaps with turps mixed in with the castor oil? How did they work out? Some people say 3 meals a day, others say 5 or 6. I'm a bit confused about what's best, and am trying to regularise my food intake and restrict it to a 'food window' (thanks EC) – so what is best 3 or 6?
Also – another question about hydration. I know we are supposed to drink 2L/8 glasses a day – but can this be in the form of herbal tea (can we count in our Bicarbonate of Soda + lemon + water here?) or does it have to be 2 L as well as herbal tea? Your help on this would be much appreciated. * I have IBS and occasional YIs. These have started to recur and so I think that Candida is the culprit. I also have spent a bit of time in 'exotic' locations, sometimes eating street food and probably picked up bugs, I know I had "India belly" in India, dysentery – possibly with amoebas, "Bangkok belly" in Thailand, "Egypt Belly" in Cairo, and "Beijing Belly" in China – so violent it produced a haemorrhoid! (Since healed, thankfully). I have used wormwood and balanced out naturally after the incidents but recently was struck down with the mystery gut thing which caused great fatigue.
This first happened about 2 months ago whereupon I stopped smoking (I had a 7-8 a day habit). A few weeks after this I had another mystery gut thing which even enemas couldn't shift, and I took this as a sign to make changes and immediately dropped coffee, alcohol, and steadily sugar. BMs have become increasingly the focus of my attention (! ) and I have been trying to regularise them. The loss of fruit from following the anti-Candida protocol (I'd normally eat 3 – 5 pieces a day) has reduced my fibre and I am experiencing being backed up quite frequently, in spite of eating much cabbage and greens. I am enjoying all the positive effects of making changes, particularly the development of a taste for savoury foods, and appreciation of those flavours, but having to crash with fatigue a couple of times most days. **I'm vegan, I eat tofu every other day and pulses on alternate days, fresh veg, cooked/steamed, and soups. Coconut/olive oil for frying. In stir fry I use ginger, garlic and fennel. Most meals are topped with 'Natch' (nutritious yeast – dried). I do have grains for breakfast, with chia/ flax seed/psyllium husk. Lately been mixing with spirulina, soy yoghurt and I eat a lot of nuts. I have gluten free bread (max 2 slices a day) and ryvita (ditto). Since giving up fruit, I've also upped the quantity of veg including cucumber and celery. I am a bit of a grazer and am trying to restrict my intake to set meal and snack times. I use a water filter and make teas from herbs: mint, sage and bay, and spices: fennel, turmeric, ginger, caraway, and add black pepper, cinnamon. In a day I am drinking 4 – 6 mugs of herbal tea, 1 mug golden milk, 2 – 3 mugs of dandelion coffee, 2 glasses alkalising water, 2 – 3 glasses water.
Now you know everything about me!
I have been using some borax soap foot soaks since august . First a pinch in two gal once a week for an hour and now every other day. I have found some interest in copper and dreamed I was eating copper pennies by the handfuls. So I had read about copper pipes and had a couple pieces in the house and added them to my foot soaks….I also use a supplemental copper zinc formula but not daily. Read an interesting article by L .Wilson online about copper .Some have it stored but not available for body to use and it's considered toxic . Others are low and it causes all kinds of problems. Both conditions are deficient in the copper to help fight candida symptoms. He said chocolate cravings may be from low copper or unavailable copper . He mentioned vegans are imbalanced in this mineral. You can google copper and Dr. L Wilson and it's a long read with lots of candida insights. He also gives a lot of insights on how to get proper hair analysis to diagnose minerals . Not sure if my borax foot soaks with copper are helping but I seem to be more active lately and my attention span has improved. I wish you Well on your Journey. Love, Charity
Bill, I have been using the turpentine for only 1.5 weeks and it is great for the candida, I even saw white rope like fungus pass the day after my first turp dose. No herxing either. I am on a vegan high raw diet, but eat fruit (juciy not sweet fruits like bananas and dates) with some cooked low fat vegan for dinner. It’s what I can sustain. My main concern now is helping my 75 year old mom onto the turp for her candida/allergies, etc. She is currently taking Atenolol 25mg which is a beta blocker for irregular heart beat. Even though she remembers turp sugar being around her house as a kid and her grand dad using it, she is terrified to swallow it, which I understand!! I was too and am still having a hard time getting past the gasoline like taste, but it does work better than anything I’ve ever tried, so I am on it 2x week for now. I want to see if I can work up to more but just need to take it slow as I have had CFS for 8 years and am sick and tired of being sick and tired. God bless you for your help!
Hi Caladesi…I am very happy for you that the turps protocol is working so well. And yes, turps was widely used internally in the old days.
Although both you and your mother are having candida issues, I would also ask you to consider two other problems that you both might have whose symptoms are very similar to candida symptoms — especially symptoms like brain fog , lethargy, low energy, depression etc.
First, hypothyroid or low thyroid was also an issue for me when I had candida. See the many symptoms for hypothyroid here. Just taking the Iodine Protocol(with companion nutrients) resolved that one very fast for me. So perhaps it’s advisable for both you and your mother to get a thyroid test. Do not use the TSH/T4 test which your doctor will probably recommend because it is very inaccurate. Ask him for the Free T3/Free T4 test instead, much more accurate. Also, if you or your mother are low thyroid, do not use the synthetic thyroid drugs that the doctor may recommend. Use the Iodine Protocol. I didn’t bother with the thyroid test. I just took the Iodine protocol and I’ve been on it ever since.
Methylation problems are the other issue. If you are under- or over-methylated this can cause problems with your neurotransmitters(seratonin, dopamine, norepeniphrine and epeniphrine levels), immune and detox systems. This will have consequent and distinct ill-effects on your mood and your body’s detox and immune systems.
Lack of methyl groups in the body(under methylation) is associated with seasonal allergies, high blood histamine levels, obsessive compulsive behaviour, addictive tendencies etc.
Over-methylation(excessive methyl donors n the body) symptoms can be associated with: anxious behaviour, low blood histamines, no seasonal allergies, panic attacks, food/chemical sensitivites etc.
See the full symptom lists here:
Methylation problems arise because of lack of specific vitamin and mineral nutrients causing lack of enzymes activity in the Methylation Cycle at different critical points in the cycle. These cause serious non-functioning blockages in the Methylation Cycle itself.
Fixing these methylation cycle blocks or breaks will therefore benefit both your CFS and Candida problems.
Here is a methylation protocol for people with CFS which should benefit both your CFS/Candida conditions:
You should also be able to buy all the supplements necessary to re-adjust and re-balance your methylation cycle from here.
It’s also well known that many vegans lack proper methylators like Vitamin B12 because there is usually a deficiency of B12 in vegan diets. Zinc is another one that is lacking in vegan diets which can lead to high copper levels in the body. Magnesium is another one. That’s why getting a hair analysis might also be beneficial for you. A hair analysis will also tell you all the heavy metals you have in your body and will also tell you what vitamins/minerals are missing in your diet as well.
Other nutrients that should help your mother’s heart problem are regular daily dosages of Acetyl-l-Carnitine, Coenzyme Q10, D-Ribose, Magnesium, and Selenium.
Bill and Caladesi, you are lucky if you can take it. I reduced it to 1 drop but the pain is still far too great. I would just end this 21 yrs of severe suffering. Bill suggested I have paw paw with each meal. I have hcl and enzymes but isn't paw paw a bit sweet? if I'm trying to get rid of candida.
Robyn, I've been experimenting with Papaya Leaf Tea. If the Paw Paw you are talking about is Papaya, than the Leaf Tea won't have the sweetness in it.
Hi all. I'm new to an infectious dkin disease with Candida issues as well. So rearched online natural remedies for my condition. Found a lot of natural remedies. I decided to go to the local Natural Roots store and I purchased some Turmeric and Echinacea to take orally. Also, bought some essential oils and bar soap. JoJoba Oil, Tea Tree Oil, Oregano Oil and Eucalyptus Oil for topical use and for baths mixed with Epsom Salt and Munuka Honey-Tea Tree Oil bar soap. The essential oils and soap has almost completely healed my skin after 2 weeks of use.
However, I found online many sites stating Turpentine kills Candida and many other internal issues aswell. So, I purchased some 100% Gum Spirits of Turpentine by Strip Clean at the Hardware store. I started taking it orally as suggested by what I found from online sites researched. The first day mixed half a teaspoon of turp with a tablespoon of honey. Not bad at all. Two days later I took the same dosage. In to my second week I upped the dosage to a full teaspoon of turp with a tablespoon of sugar. I liked it much better and I was feeling great, more energy than I 've had in many many years. Two days Iater I took that same dosage and was loving the way I was feeling. Passed some type worms. But, my chest hurts, the upper GI. And my stomach is cramping. Is this part of Candida die of or do I need to go to E. R. ? Thanks for your help.
Hi William…Your upper GI pain might simply be due to symptoms caused by candida die-off or Herx reactions. And if you are, at the same time, detoxing heavy metals with other protocols then this can give very similar symptoms as well as, in some cases, strange skin problems. Initially, when you start the turpentine protocol, these die-off and detox symptoms should be expected, since you will initially be killing huge amounts of candida and other pathogens with the turpentine and other protocols and the same goes for the heavy metal detox.
Further on down the timeline, when you eventually get the candida and detox numbers down significantly, your immune system will then start to become healthy again and act dominate your body as it should and eventually you health should be much improved.
What I’m saying here, as an ex-systemic candida sufferer myself, is that when you start any successful protocol against candida then you will always feel worse before you begin to feel better and heal. Indeed, if this were not initially the case, then I would seriously question whether the anti-candida protocol you are using is working properly or not.
I also use turpentine in my own anti-candida protocols, which is a bigger protocol that is shown here in some detail. This protocol has also been quite successful for other candida sufferers who have used it.
Bill, is excessive hunger for junk food normal when taking turpentine?
Every time I see "irregular heartbeat", I think of my severe Right Side Bundle Branch Block, google it. It's a heart problem that's similar, roughly, to your mom. I cured it in 8 months by slowing my breathing down. My former heart problem totally went away.
It's not easy. Especially sleeping. Wearing a construction mask helps the O2 CO2 exchange. When away, breathe through nose exclusively, and if possible, have her close one nostril, I used an earplug up one nostril .
I was shocked it worked. An old doctor friend told me about it. The young doctor I went to had absolutely no clue.
Good luck! Please try it.
Can't find a single comment on dosing/how to take turpentine orally for candida…… Please advise- thanks!
C: The usual delivery method for Turpentine is saturate two large or three small sugar cubes, dissolve in mouth and wash down with water or natural beverage once per day.
I am not a fan of eating sugar by itself. Can I take the Turpentine with BSM (blackstrap molasses) instead? If so, how many drops of turp for each tea or tablespoon full of BSM? Thank you!
Yes, you can take Turpentine with most foods or liquids as it is a natural solvent and actually doesn't taste too bad; kinda like a Gin tonic. I used to take with sugar cubes but needed to reduce sugars so now I simply get a swig of my Coffee/Tea/Water and add two small droppers and down the hatch. I do this once daily.
I believe paw paw is a fruit that was cultivated before the banana cartel became a thing.
Hi I would like to hear from anyone who has/is trying the kerosene treatment for candida. how is it working for you, how much do you use etc. Thank you
I want to share a video that I found from a Google search on the usage of turpentine. It's pretty detailed & will benefit the ones wanting to know more on how to use turpentine as well as the health conditions treated by it. Here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WtzHyl1GRA
I have been taking turpentine bath every single day for the last several month. When I start turpentine bath soon around waist area started to have a breakout. A lot of Fibrin structure. looks like scab. at the end what determins human death is the number of fibrin. The more fibrin coms out, the skin become half transparent and softer.when the kidney was cleansed I had major change in inner ears. As kidney and ear are related. I was producing a lot of ear wax. I often wondered when I was a child, I regularly produce ear wax. when I got sick, actually it stopped at a considerable speed. I believe my system started to get clogged. that is why. As the kidney started detox, my ear follows up.
After I started turpentine bath I reduced the number of herbs and supplements. Because turpentine itself is a powerful therapy. And I also rotate putting these into bath. For example, methylene blue, Magnesium, povidone iodine, MSM, Borax, Aquarium salt, BHT, DMSO. The beauty if turpentine bath is there is absolutely no extra effort. Because we all wash everyday, I take bath everyday.. Nothing added..!
Hi Fiona from Tustin: which kind of Turpentine you mean? The kind distilled from pine tree resin or petroleum distillate? Thank you
Hi Faeqa. What you need to look for in turpentine is “100% gum turpentine” or “pure gum turpentine” on the label. Check out Walter Last’s site with more information about turpentine/kerosene: http://www.health-science-spirit.com/kero.htm. God Bless!
Re: Kerosene for Candida. I just started the kerosine therapy and I haven’t seen any difference, although it’s just the third day. Is anyone doing it right now? Lets get your situation report.
Hi Rachael…In order for Kerosene to be effective you must use it in the right way. I’m working with an autism group at the moment. All the autistic children are infected with candida as well as parasites. I know this because they must post pictures of their stools every day on this site. Their stools always show parasites as well as biofilms coming out of the children’s intestines.
The way to use kerosene or turpentine is to take one teaspoon mixed together with at least one tablespoon of castor oil. You can add molasses too for a better taste if you like. The purpose of the castor oil is to help spread the turpentine throughout the intestines more thoroughly — don’t forget that the intestines is 28 ft long so the kerosene has to be used efficiently.
If you are just supplementing kerosene on its own with water outside mealtimes, then the kerosene will be rapidly absorbed into the blood from the stomach — with not much kerosene left to go into the intestines to fight the candida and remove biofilms there. Taking kerosene with water is OK for blood born diseases but not OK for candida — because the throne and fortress of candida is always in the intestines which has the biofilms.
So take the kerosene mixed with castor oil and take this at mealtime just before you eat. That will ensure that the majority of the kerosene goes where it should — into the intestines to both kill the candida and remove the biofilms as well.
Hi Bill, what does the biofilm in the stool look like? I have had what I thought was mucus in the stool for a few years. After reading what you wrote I am wondering if it is mucus or bio film. Thanks
Dear Bill and Ted, I have been reading and appreciating all your info so much. What an incredible service! I am writing in regards to my 2 1/2 year old son. I would like to try some of these remedies for him: colostrum and turpentine/castor, also perhaps the iodine protocol and transdermal magnesium oil. He's struggled with digestion, candida related symptoms since birth, with weakened immunity, and most recently a case of lyme (we think) and re-occuring pinworms.
We have always chosen to treat naturally and gently, but I am concerned that he is not thriving and that I must find a way to treat the root issue. I had chronic yeast throughout the pregnancy and then antibiotics for Typhoid Fever one month before his birth. He's always struggled with constipation and currently is on probiotics, prunes, chia, etc. and is still only having a BM every other day. Any extra help in figuring this all out would be deeply appreciated. I am planning to do castor/turp and iodine protocol for my own candida issues, and hopefully get my husband to do it with me for depression. I will let you know how that goes. I don't seem to understand the length of time to continue all these protocols? Thanks again, all my best* ~Miquela
Miquela from East Coast, Usa 02/04/2015
Writing about your 2 1/2 yr old son. My daughter had a huge problem with pin worms & nothing worked..not even the Dr. prescriptions. This was about 38 yrs ago! An elderly grandmother told us give her 100% pure Turpentine. She said that every fall & spring all the people used to use 10 drops of turpentine FOR ADULTS (on sugar..only for taste so do as you need on the sugar..maybe honey or just water).. For kids less depending on size. I gave my daughter 5 drops & you do this for 3 days on empty stomach. I was AMAZED. She was free of the pin worms right away. Since that experience I use it for parasites of different kinds. You can try it & see how the little one does with it..I wish the precious little one well.. God Bless..
When I read about your son having constipation it has compelled me to tell you a story of my daughter. About the age of five she started having constipation problems and before she was 20 doctors wanted to cut out a large section of here colon and have her start using a colostomy bag from then on. Through her own wisdom she declined. She continued having problems bloating after eating small amounts of food to the point she would look 6 months pregnant.
She is now 33 years old and about 6 months ago she went on a diet some water with a different ph level, lemon juice, maple syrup and cayenne pepper. I do not know the quantities but I am sure this diet is online. Anyway this is all she consumed for 10 days. I saw her on the 5th day and she said Dad this has been so hard, but the first few days was really the hardest. I asked her about a month later how the diet went, she said Dad I have been having regular bowel movements 3 times a day. I was astonished honest to god she would not have a bowel movement for up to 2 weeks on a regular basis. I always feared she would die before she was 21 and now she just glows full of energy for the first time ever.
Sorry off the subject of turpentine, which I have been taking for the past few months, not religiously though, just when I feel the need and yes it did give me chest pains at first, but that could be partially from a resting heart rate between 115 and 122. I have started a healthier diet also now eat fruits and vegetables (yuck). now my resting heart rate is between 80 and 93. Still not great but highly improved and oh yes no more chest pains…
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Well, I began my turpentine treatment this morning by injesting 1/2 tsp soaked in sugar cubes. Dr Daniels’ protocol calls for 1 tsp, but I’m kinda chicken and will go slow. I do appreciate your earlier input and will let you know how this wild and strange adventure comes out. I opted to go this way because candida is one tough thing to get into control. A few hours later I took a pslyllium fiber shake containing bentonite clay, diatatamisious earth, cayenne and flax seed meal. Hopefully, as this passes through, it will drag out some of the affected yeast in my intestines. Wed. I will get a Hydrogen Peroxide I.V. to work on those in my blood stream.
Some posters have said they have done battle with these little critters for years. At 76, I need a PDQ treatment. ======RH========