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I would like to report the tremendous effect I am experiencing of using gum turpentine to get rid of biofilm in guts and lungs. After reading Bill's book on candida, I was eager to try this missing ingredient for a cure.
Have a lot more energy now, thank you Bill!
The pinacea is the panacea.
Also found this document about the use of turpentine in Haarlemmerolie: http://www.haarlemmerolie.nl/images/Haarlemmerolie/english-user-manual-haarlemmerolie.pdf
What is Bill's book? ty
I am getting ready to try turpentine for the first time! I have a few questions.
Does biofilm only exist in the intestines or can it exist throughout the body? In other words, if getting rid of biofilm is the main goal, then is it better to make sure the turp gets into the intestines (with castor oil like you have mentioned elsewhere) instead of the bloodstream?
Your post is a few months old, but since Bill did not reply, I thought I might chime in. Or perhaps you already got the answer you needed, but if not, here goes.
Biofilm can reside anywhere in the body where a group of pathogens will happily reside in. These pathogens will colonize within these biofilm “communities” to form a synergistic relationship through quorom sensing. In this way, these smartpants can evade the immune system or any antimicrobial agent you might throw it's way.
I am hoping that turpentine can in reality degrade biofilms, because this seems to be the key to eradicating these pathogens. Break down the house and the little guys are exposed to your killing agent. I know this because I have chronic lyme.
Good luck in your healing journey and happy 2015!
If you have a low or non-functioning immune system then the best thing you can take is colostrum (first milk to calf after birth). Both lyme and candida involve the participation of a wide variety of pathogen species together with a low performing immune system and this is what makes these diseases so difficult to cure.
Colostrum contains antibodies that are passed to the calf. At birth, the calf has no immune system and no digestive system just like human babies. So the antibodies in cow mother's milk are passed directly into the calf — in other words the mother cow's immunity is passed directly into the calf like immune system blueprints so that it can manufacture its own antibodies. And if the calf does not receive this colostrum within 24 hours it will die.
The same thing happens in humans when you take high grade or natural liquid bovine colostrum. This colostrum will give you protection and immunity against all common diseases that are in our environment such as E. Coli, Shigella, Giardia, C Diff, Candida, H pylori, Staph, Strep, Borrelia etc. Colostrum also contains growth factors that help to heal the intestines, prevent inflammation and pain and also contains substances that help to reduce the permeability of the gut — thus also curing food allergies including wheat and milk allergies. The colostrum essentially acts to reset, re-train and strengthen the human immune system.
I have recently read a personal testimonial by a guy who had serious candida, gut and allergy issues for many years. He was given two gallons of fresh colostrum for free straight from the mother cow and he drank it all over a short period of time. He completely cured all his problems in just 2 weeks with candida and allergies defeated and gone.
Then there's the story of Immune Milk and Herb Saunders(now deceased) who was a dairy farmer in the US. His customers who came to see him were very sick people who had many and various infectious or autoimmune diseases. Saunders would take a small sample of their blood and inject it into the udders of an expectant mother cow. Whatever diseases these people had — the cows immune system would manufacture antibodies against it. Then a month later, after the mother cow dropped her calf, farmer Saunders would give this colostrum from the cow to his customer who would be rapidly cured of his or her immune or infectious disease. Saunders was taken to court by the FDA for practicing without a licence but got a hung jury both times. So the FDA doesn't always win…
See this link:
The Universal Oral Vaccine: Immune Milk
So if you know a friendly local organic dairy farmer who does not feed his cows steroids, antibiotics or unnatural feeds, then just negotiate a price for some fresh liquid colostrum. This is by far the best natural form to take.
But if you can't get fresh colostrum from the mother cow then you should buy the powder form. But not just any old cheap colostrum powder — you must make sure that whatever powdered colostrum you buy has not been processed with chemicals or with excessive heat which would render the colostrum useless. Here is a product that meets these high standards. They also test the efficacy and content both before and after manufacture of their colostrum. This is the liposomal form of colostrum which is highly concentrated and it's not so cheap but it's easy to take and should work reasonably well just like the natural form from the mother cow:
So if you take the turpentine protocol together with colostrum — the turpentine itself will immediately act to kill all manner of pathogens and remove biofilm(but does not strengthen the immune system directly) while the colostrum will act to enhance and retrain your own immune system to defeat and dispose of all the many common pathogens involved in both Lyme disease and Candida. In other words colostrum should eventually help to give you immunity against many or all the pathogens involved in both candida issues and Lyme Disease.
Colostrum and the Human Immune System
Hi Bill, Very good information. Quantity like two gallons may not be possible to procure, but at the same time reasonable quantity can be got from people who keep the cows in India for their daily needs of milk.
I have seen in my younger days that we used to get that milk (Colostrum) and while heating it, it used to get split. Then it used to be strained and that cheese type of thing was eaten after mixing it with honey or raw sugar. I don't know whether that was a right procedure to take it, so my question is if one gets it how to take it, should we heat/warm or take it in raw form. Many thanks
What is your opinion about taking Human Colustrum (Mother's Milk). In india we have a folk practice of using mothers milk for variety of ailments. In fact it is easy to get in rural parts of India. May be a 1 tsp a day from one mother.
Alternatively, you can get bovine colustrum easily in India, even in Litres.
Hi Baldev…I think, without question, that fresh colostrum taken either straight from the human mother or cow is the best form of colostrum to take. You have to be very careful with buying powdered colostrum or you might be taking a weak or below par product. If the colostrum has been excessively heated or chemically processed in any way then its efficacy will be questionable.
For those people who cannot get the colostrum straight from the cow, I usually recommend Sovereign Labs brand(organic). This brand is not treated chemically or heated excessively and, what’s more, they check each batch of colostrum for efficacy and proper composition both before and after the conversion to the powder form. What’s more, the SL brand uniquely uses the liposomal form of colostum delivery so the colostrum keeps longer(less oxidation) and the colostrum will not be affected by stomach acid or be digested when supplemented in the liposomal form but, instead, will be quickly absorbed into the blood. I decided on this brand after researching many others like Surthrival, Nutricology etc. What also impressed me was the CEO of SL who has some revealing and personal stories to tell about colostrum in this video:
The Colostrum Story
Hi Ed2010…I would fully support taking colostrum from a human mother. But this is not about just drinking mother’s milk — this about supplementing or drinking colostrum which is the very first milk that the baby drinks from the mother’s breast after it is born. This is how the mother is able to transfer all her disease immunity to her child. And from that point on the feed from the mother’s breast quickly reverts just to ordinary mother’s milk(no antibodies).
So I’m not really talking about mothers milk. Not the same as colostrum.
And if you can buy the bovine colostrum then please make sure that it was collected on the same day as the calf was born. This will ensure high potency and efficacy of the colostrum(containing huge amounts of antibodies) against many common human infectious and autoimmune diseases that modern medicine still cannot cure.
I have been taking different brands of Colostrum on-and-off over-the-yrs but nothing worth noting; which is no surprise considering product quality and my hyper heavy metal and parasite loads, as well as twice compromised immunity.
In an attempt to maximize the C effect, I also take Glutamine and Probiotics, which should surely help. Also, being desperate and creative, tried LET Colostrum also w/ no improvement to note.
Hi Timh…You point is certainly well made and true about colostrum because you’re living it. So a suggestion.
I completely agree with you that if your immune system is already heavily compromised for other specific reasons than lack of nutrients(for example) then colostrum would not work for you. To use a metaphor — even if you put high octane gasoline in a car with no engine it still isn’t going to move.
You do seem to have so many problems which all seem to point to a stubbornly compromised and low performing immune system. Your own knowledge of nutrients and herbs is pretty vast because you have rightly tried to use all these nutrients to cure your own problems.
But what if the cause of your low performing immune system were due to gene aberrations caused by a badly performing Methylation Cycle(MC) in your body? If true then this makes it a whole diffferent ball game.
Gene aberrations in the MC are now commonplace and they can be extremely serious(think ASD problems) — they can heavily affect your body cell performance and tissue structure. I’ve also read that aberrant MTFR and many other aberrant genes besides can cause brain cells, blood cells and immune system cells to perform at only 30% of their capacity or strength. And you can take as many nutrients and drugs as you like but you wont fix it until you find the right gene triggers to cure the aberrant gene problems.
Furthermore, your body appears to be always very high in heavy metals no matter what antioxidant or detoxer or support nutrient you take. This might also be a another pointer to methylation issues. The transulfuraton cycle(also part of the MC), which produces taurine and glutathione — the master anti-oxidant and heavy metal detoxer for your body, might be dead in the water. This is well known to occur in methylation issues. What are your homocysteine and glutathione levels like?
These might be some valid reasons why your own progress back to health has been so slow and drawn out due to a still compromised MC which has acted, due to aberrant gene formation, to continuously lower and hold down your own immune system’s performance. And its not just about MTFR gene aberrations — there are many more genes that can go rogue in the MC.
And these might also be some valid reasons why colostrum hasn’t worked so well for you.
As a general dosage, what would you suggest for human colustrum. May be 20ml / day.
We have a recipe for Bovine Colustrum.
Add 400ml of bovine colustrum in a milk pot, add cardomom and half cup sugar. Boil it for sometime, this turns the milk like a crated cheese. Once the milk becomes a solid like crated chase, we serve it. This is a good medicine for hip joints and bones.
of course, this is not as therapeutic as raw bovine colustrum.
Also, what would you recommend as dosage of raw bovine colustrum daily.
Hi Ed2010…Proper fresh, natural colostrum is not white but yellow and looks like this. I also know they use it for food in India in dishes like posu and as a form of healthy cheese.
You should be able to drink as much colostrum as you like because it’s a food after all. But if you have serious disease or autoimune problems(with pathogens in high numbers in your body), then it is perhaps advisable to start with one tablespoon and work up slowly to a larger dosage because of the Herx or die-off effect.
Colostrum is also very high in support minerals and vitamins — including glutathione. See this link. That’s why it’s also possible that you may well get detox symptoms or reactions when you start taking colostrum — because taking colostrum and all that extra glutathione raises the body’s detox capabilities back to healthy and efficient levels again.
For those interested in its many benefits, some more general research on natural colostrum:
Thanx for your reply Bill. Your diagnosis seems spot on, the issue is successful treatment. For elimination I am doing Foot Spas, Foot Detox Patches, Oil Pulling, oral Charcoal or Bentonite.
To improve P-450 detox, which would include Methylation as well as the other category’s like Glucuronidation etc., I take either Dill or Caraway herb w/ D-Limonene once or twice daily, and Sulforaphane (Broccoli Sprout Extract, DIM, and I3C) occasionally. I listen to Love 528 Solfeggio Harmonics occasionally to help repair DNA. NAC, Selenium and Melatonin to improve GTH.
Have made significant immune improvements since beginning LDN on Dec 13th, 2014 and have yet to make a detailed post here on E.C.
Along w/ the heavy metal manganese I have tape worm cyst & stages (killed the adult in my intestines last July which set in motion an entirely new stage of detox/elimination), but just as Hulda Clark noted they form a survival coalition and the biofilms join in as the ultimate protector. Nattozimes and Turpentine blast the biofilms as you know. Ozone seems to be the only agent to penetrate the cyst, and after only one Colloidal Silver/Ozone 3oz drink (mid-December), had significant juvenile and entire host of pathogens released into blood & liver which caused a crisis, including kidney infection, taking exact remedies and 24hrs to recover.
Which is good for GI, spray or capsules?
I wondered if you could explain when it says the lactoferrin in colostrum binds and transports iron to cells in the body, if this would be beneficial or detrimental to people who have high serum iron that is supposedly hard on organs?
Thank you for all the information you freely give to everyone on Earth Clinic.
P.S. I assume they leave some of the colostrum for the baby calf, too?
Hi Rsw…Lactoferrin is highly beneficial to the body. It helps to transport and distribute iron in the body — makes it much more efficient — while at the same time starving pathogens of much-needed iron because of the way lactoferrin binds to iron. It is highly anti-pathogenic because it prevents attachment of pathogens(especially viruses) to the the host cells thus preventing them from reproducing and spreading. it also regulates and modulates the immune system, strengthens the performance of neutrophils and eosinophils in all the mucus glands, inhibits pathogen growth, speeds up the healing of wounds — too many to mention. For more thorough explanations and descriptions please see these links.
Colostrum and Lactoferrin
And it usually always the case that companies who use colstrum from mother cows always let the calf have enough colostrum. If they did not do this then the calf would die within 24 hours of its birth.
Bill, would lactoferrin help with extreme anemia accompanied by low adrenal, thyroid and testosterone (yes I am a woman but do not have enough at all)?
I also have a skin problem that I think is mites. I do the whole thing and keep them at bay but have not cured myself. Thought maybe the reason I still have them is my overall system is weak. Would I be able to have some of your wonderful suggestions?
Thank you, Bill for the detailed links and your explanation. I have looked at this product for a couple of years now, but have always hesitated because I didn't understand it's potential. I was looking at another brand, too, so I thank you for posting the one you feel has been processed to retain the maximum benefits. I had seen a documentary on the pregnant mare drug for menapausal women many years ago, and determined never to buy that product because of the way the mares were treated, so I didn't want to do the same to the cows. But it seems all is well and we are using what can be spared by the calves. You are so patient and generous in sharing your understanding of these nontraditional treatments and your advice is very much appreciated.
Hi Ed2010…You should perhaps start by using just the Sovereign Lab liposomal colostrum powder. Powder is better than capsules which always costs more because of the extra processing needed to make the capsules. Powder usually lasts longer and goes farther for the money.
If you prefer you can use the Colostrum-IC-Concentrate spray which contains high amounts of concentrated immune factors(antibodies, lactoferrin etc) which is 48 times higher in strength than the capsules or powder.
If you also have food allergies such as milk or wheat allergies then take the IRM Colostrum spray which will specifically help to cure any food allergy problems and will also help to heal the intestines. This is because it is high in Proline-Rich Polypeptides and lactoferrin.
Their Viralox spray is for viral infections. It uses only the elements of colostrum that kills viruses. Useful for colds and flu and other viral problems including HSV, HPV, Epstein Barr etc. This spray up-regulates the immune system against all viruses creating a hostile viral environment and also prevents all forms of viruses from reproducing by inhibiting them from attaching to host cells.
But the best all-round protection is probably the colostrum powder form and it would depend on what else was wrong with you as to whether you would need to take the other specific spray forms. Your choice.
Bill: Unfortunately I don't know my homocysteine or glutathione levels as I have no medical support in my area. Maybe I can have a long-distance Dr (online) order an "Elisa" test at local lab?? Any suggestions? I think I can purchase these test alone, if I can muster enough $.
Anyway, in response to your heads-up on homocysteine, I have B-6 & P5P in the mail as my heart & cardio system have been thru hell in the last 4 yrs; fortunately I have avoided catastrophic event. I do take 500mg Methionine daily for fatty liver w/ 1000 mcg B-12/500mcg Folic Acid, and 125mg DMG.
I may need to reiterate the major problem of pulmonary fibrosis (in comparison to your gene theory), which is known to cause Glutathione deficiency and autoimmunity. Recent LDN is proof of correcting, in part, this immune dysfunction. I have no problems of insufficient volume or shortness of breath, but do have problems w/ gaseous exchange, detox, and acidosis. Dr. Shallenberger measures lung function to access energy production in the body. I am currently getting good results (much better now since taking LDN) in energy production by taking Raw Lung Glandular in conjunction w/ Chinese herbal combination for lung health. So it seems an immune-detox-energy crisis which I suffer, but w/ major treatment intervention am still here to talk about it.
About 1 yr ago I nebulized some Reduced Glutathione, along w/ other nutrients for lungs, and for a brief few hrs experienced a remarkable relief of bad symptoms and felt like my old self again prior to my injuries. Am looking forward to trying this remedy again and isolating exactly any specific or combination nutrients. Also, I have sufficient circumstantial evidence of mycoplasma pneumonia, so this infection must be playing a major role in preventing any healing in the lungs and further agonizes the fibrosis instead. Despite recent immune improvements w/ LDN the mycoplasma and bone/joint infection continues although not as severe; but am now resolved to take at least one 6 drop dose MMS daily so as to get an upper hand and eventually (w/ the help of Ozonated Colloidal Silver) totally kill these pathogens.
The heavy metal elimination seems to be going well as the severity is slowly reduced. Hopefully in a few months I will have made substantial progress in this area.
Tim, have you gone online to requestatest.com to have any personal labs drawn? I have used them before and go to local Labcorps to have my blood drawn. They handled the paperwork. I used them to have my magnesium RBC's checked. It was a very easy process. My results came to my email. Maybe this will help.
Hi Timh…Not knowing your homocysteine or glutathione levels might indeed be a problem. But I think you have gone a long way to remedying that anyway, if it is a problem, by taking the B6 & P5P, DMG, folic acid etc. Some more advice on this below.
The only problem for you is really how to determine whether your methylation condition is under- or over-methylated. I think I can help here too since doctor’s methylation panels can cost an arm and a leg and then some.
Under-methylation is typically characterized by high or excessive histamine levels in the body. This is easily enough recognized or spotted especially if you are suffering constant or extreme pain due to inflammation in your tissues, joints or organs. Under-methylation can also help contribute towards food allergies and high gut permeability(leaky gut) as well.
Over-methylation(OM) symptoms typically involve anxiety problems, insomnia and adrenal insufficiency caused by a methylation blockade or aberrant gene problem in this area. Typically, someone suffering from over-methylation issues will have low histamine levels and will suffer more from mental problems — such as Bi-polar or OCD disorders. Typically, OM problems can also involve chemical sensitivity issues but not food allergy problems.
Thus armed with the above symptom guidelines, you should be able to make up your own mind as to whether you consider your condition to be a typically under- or over-methylated condition. I’ve tried to keep it very simple, but much more information and detail here:
Methylation and MTHFR Defects (Dr Ben Lynch)
MTHFR.NET(Ben Lynch’s website)
There is also a simple way to do a partial check on your body’s nutrient status by getting a hair analysis — quite cheap. This will not tell you your homocysteine levels but it should tell you your vitamin and mineral levels. For instance, if you are heavily lacking in Vitamin B6 then there will be little glutathione production happening in your body which means that your body has no master chelator and that you will be steadily be accumulating dangerous heavy metals in your body. Your heavy metal status will also show up on your hair analysis to confirm this.
High homocysteine levels can also be prevented by taking TMG(not DMG), B6 and Methylcobolamine(B12). It’s also much better to take the L-MTHF forms of folate than taking the folic acid form(synthetic form). High homocysteine levels can also cause heart problems and hardening of the arteries.
Your beneficial experience one year ago nebulizing reduced glutathione would also seem to at least confirm your body’s great need for glutathione. This would also suggest that your methylation cycle is out of balance and blocked in some way, with other problems such as high homocysteine and aberrant gene problems also being a distinct possibility. Unfortunately, if you do have aberrant gene problems then there is simply no other option but to confirm which gene are aberrant by doing the relevant aberrant gene DNA tests from your doctor.
LDN is a very good protocol for many autoimmune disorders because it seems to raise up, retrain and strengthen the immune system. The colloidal silver and MMS should also be effective against mycoplasma. The only difficulty with taking these as oral nutrients is to ask “How much of these nutrients are being used up or neutralized in the intestines and how much is actually successfully reaching the problem sites in the body?”.
So it might be better to also use MMS or Colloidal Silver topically combined with DMSO. I’ve read that when Vitamin C is taken orally then only about 15% – 20% ever gets absorbed from the intestines into the blood. If you apply this thinking to CS and MMS then there might be a problem. I have also read that when DMSO carries any nutrient from the skin into the blood, it usually achieves 80% absorption of that nutrient into the blood. So if you combine DMSO + CS or combine DMSO + MMS and put it on the skin directly over the problem area itself then this should perhaps act in a stronger way(due to higher local dosage) than the oral form to get rid of the mycoplasma and associated pathogens causing problems there. In this way higher dosages of CS or MMS nutrients may be carried to these sites using DMSO, which should also have no trouble carrying these nutrient across any blood/bone barrier to attack the mycoplasma in the bone area. That’s why I think using the DMSO route might be more efficient and effective for you than just using the oral route.
If you have mycoplasma in your lungs then I would simply try using Bill Munroe’s HP Inhalation Method. And if it were me — I would use a pharmacy-bought 0.5% Hydrogen Peroxide solution that contains stabilizers to first see if it actually helped against the mycoplasma. Bill Munroe used the ordinary stabilized form of HP for over 20 years without problems. And if this cheap form of HP definitely helped to get rid of the lung mycoplasma, then perhaps you could purchase the FG 35% HP at a later time.
Thank You Mw I will check them out.
RE: Biofilm…..mine was on my brain! Last January 2015 I did my 1st experiment with turpentine and sugar, and a small fog, enuf to notice, was lifted from my head….within seconds from ingesting the turp/sugar mix, I could feel it lifting, as if someone slowly waved a hand from the base of my skull up and over the top to the forehead and that was it, and it took all of 3-4 seconds to accomplish that, and as soon as that finished, I noticed an increase in energy. But it was a one time event. I have drank turp since, and there was no energy increase nor any lifting of fog from my brain. At the time I had no idea there was a name for this thing, til I read about it somewhere, and now I know, it's called biofilm….
Man! That's awesome testimony, I just heard about turpentine, I am going to try it cause I have parasites/candida, tried other things and nothing worked. I hope this is the silver bullet I have been looking for.
Hi Bill, again this is an old post and I'm slow getting around this website and reading it all. I see the colostrum you suggested is available in powder form and also capsules. Do you think the capsules would work just as well. ( I was looking on amazon )
We had a milk cow when I was a teenager. We drank milk straight from the cow everyday. My whole family has been very healthy and have aged very well. My dad is 94 years old and still going strong. This has been one of most informative threads I have ever read. Thank you for some great information.