MMS is a beverage product designed by former aerospace engineer who tested his MMS protocol in Malawi and other parts of Africa. Initially used to treat malaria, the manufacturer claims field-tested success in treating and reversing the effects of AIDS, malaria, hepatitis, herpes, tuberculosis, most cancers, and a host of other diseases.
MMS Benefits and Side Effects
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Any one has any experience in taking MMS for Autoimmune hepatitis?
I was in the Philippines with Malaria and felt very close to death. I was in bed for days and kept drifting in and out of consciousness towards the end. My Wife demanded I go to hospital, but I knew they could do nothing for me.
We tried Silver on day 2 and nothing happened. On the fourth day I was ready to die and that’s when I remembered the Malaria story Jim told and how a guy had stage 4 Malaria and drank this stuff. They were sitting around a camp fire laughing not long afterwards. It convinced me to buy some.
I called out to my Wife as loud as I could muster, did I bring that bottle of Malaria stuff with us?! I couldn’t even remember the name. She didn’t know what it was either as I hadn’t explained what it was. I recalled it was purple and she located it. She thought it was simply minerals. I could not remember how much to take so I said give me one small teaspoon and if nothing happens and I pass out again, wake me up and give me a second one.
Well their was no need for a second serve. Within 1 maybe 2 minutes at the most, I started to wake up. It was almost immediate and I continued to get better by the minute. Within 5 minutes I was walking around and drinking a coffee! Apart from feeling a bit weak from days of fever I felt great! My Wife could not believe it. I think it is criminal what they have done to Jim. Without him I would not be alive, he saved my life.
I also know that Malaria can keep coming back periodically once infected. I have had no relapses after 8 years.
Tooth ache is due to obviously germs in the space between tooth & gum. H2O2 hydrogen peroxide is fine, but also MMS spray is good too. MMS is Chlorine Dioxide mixture sold as water purification drops.
But the MMS or H2O2 both have some offending taste/smell(at least to me).
CDS – the pure Chlorine Dioxide gas dissolved in water – has very fresh taste.
This is the way I use.
Buy a 1-oz nasal spray, empty, fill it with water &
10 drops of 24,000 ppm CDS
(you can use 10 drops of MMS1,activated MMS too)
and use it as mouth spray to your aching tooth.
It does not have offending odor nor taste, it clear up the pain right away
(esp. after brushing tooth to clean up the debris btwn tooth & gum).
Those who are familiar with MMS, CDS is pure form and
1 drop of 24,000 ppm version CDS is equivalent to 1 MMS1(activated MMS).
So there is no hassle of
* having a clean cup,
* mixing MMS with acid starter,
* waiting so many seconds,
* consuming stuff with offending smell/taste.
You may think CDS 24,000 ppm is expensive, not quite so, if you calculate the price carefully,
it is about equal buying MMS & activator acid.
I ordered 600cc(20oz) bottle from Australia for approx. $120, and loving it,
(this is equivalent to 5 MMS+activator, how much does that costs you?)
so simple to use. just put few drops into your drink, that’s it.
Absolutely no hassle at Equal Price.
So carry this CDS mouth spray with you having clean fresh mouth, with no tooth ache as long as you want.
As you know this CDS/MMS has tremendous effects on variety of diseases, so you can use it for many other ailments.
Good Luck.
MMS OR CLO2,,,,,,,,,,,,, HI U OLE PATOOTS………. Fox News did a hit piece yesterday on parents using this product to address their kids autism.
In the paper industry I spent my entire career inhaling the ClO2 residual that is left after that bleaching stage. Did not appreciate it at the time but that is probably one of the reasons I’s still perkin. They did not say the parents we giving their kids ClO2, they said they were feeding them bleach. That is a ploy. Chlorine is a bleach. Does your city put bleach in your water? Yep. Most home water systems use Clorox to killed the water bacteria. Is that a bleach? Yep. The problem is who’s ox is being gored. In this case, the parents are using a natural product to treat their kids because Big Pharma has no clue. The guy who got this going was named Hubble, a missionary to Africa, who found that MMS shut down malaria.
It also addresses lots of other health problems. In my last mill, we installed a 35 ton/day ClO2 generator and that would take care of the world. I just wish I now has access to that good stuff.
My point is that Fox News did not do this …….. Big Pharma did. MMS has been discussed often on EC. You are giving Big Pharma heart burn. My next post is what the Hi Tech boys say about Turpentine. That’s a good un. This is not new to EC folks. Your attention span is only 20 minutes and I am pushing it. The last Lassie who posted ….described me as a person with gumption. I had to look it up to make certain. I take it as a compliment.
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CHLORINE DIOXIDE TO THE RESCUE …………….. HI U OLD PATOOTS DOIN. Spent 40 years bleaching pulp with Chlorine Dioxide. You would call that printing paper or Xerox. As a youth our tablets were about 75 brightness because the best bleach we had was Calcium Hydroxide. That about what newsprint is. But Chlorine Dioxide came along and brightness was 90+. What I did not know is that breathing all that CLO2 was helping my health.
What a missionary named Hubble learned is that CLO2 will cure Malaria. They tried to put him in prison. You have to be a doctor to cure stuff. He then formed a church and they don’t mess with him. Since then lots of folks got into the act and it is sumpin else. They are finding that CLO2 will help Alzheimer’s, Autism and other stuff that the medical field has no clue.
Watch and listen to this site. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybiHGCA71G8&feature=youtu.be
What I want you to do is watch these two brilliant women discuss the subject.
Dang all know, I’s a smart ass. But they also know I bring new stuff to the table. This is new and It can help you or yo kin. Here is the question…….. what class of people is Round -up going to kill. Yep, it the poor people. I ain’t pore, but that’s where I come from.
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Misspoke,,,,,,,,, it is calcium hypochlorite and not calcium hydroxide.
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Side effect reported
Just have figured out that MMS swished around your mouth for 5 min for years has worn down my tooth enamel to a serious condition according to my dentist – who obvious has never heard of it.
All that time, it seemed to do a great job in killing the bacteria in my mouth, specifically the cavity bacteria-streptococcus mutans, but did not realize that the chlorine dioxide was attacking the enamel. I do not think it was Citric Acid (pH 2.2) mixed in water that was doing it, had to be the chlorine dioxide which according to contributors to this site is not at all selective.
MMS FOR MRSA
I used MMS 24 drops a day. (I am a twenty year old female weighing 115 lbs.) I think my situation with the disease was not too bad to start with, had a couple large boils and one was drained in ER. I started getting large blisters that lasted over a week maybe even two. At that point is been dealing with it for 3 months. I bought the product and started using it. It did seem to clear up one blister very quickly. But the results seemed to kind of plateau. I kept using it because I didn't know of any other options. By the end of the three months I was so disgusted by it I hated drinking it and would gag non-stop. My acne had cleared up considerably but I still got some suspicious bumps and such that were pimples but maybe not. I stopped taking it because I ran out and was going on vacation for a week. I stopped taking it for a month and just recently I've got another blister. So I'm buying another bottle as much as I dislike it. My next bet is phage therapy. For the record I've also tried Manuka honey, essential oil, vitamin b3, d3, garlic, turmeric, possibly some others. They definitely helped I think but didn't cute it yet.
Side effect reported
Hi I have had chronic Lyme for years and yesterday I tried MMS for the first time I did one drop of MMS and one drop of citric acid mixed it in pomegranite juice and only drank about 1/4 of the fluid. Within a minute or so after taking it I strated feeling this heat going down my throat and felt very axious and tired at the same time. It scared me and maybe will not take again due to my reaction. Has anyone out there had the same or similar experience?
To my knowledge, the ratio of Sodium Chlorite-to-Citric acid is 1-5. The most recent protocol is Sodium Chlorite 1 drop and Hydrochloric Acid 1 drop and taken with water.
I would recommend dropping the juice, and start with 1 or 2 drops Sodium Chlorite and add 5 or 10 drops Lemon Juice (I use otc LJ concentrate) and again taken with water. Slowly increase number of drops with each passing day.
I woke up in excruciating pain two days after a piece of broken glass in the garbage stabbed the middle finger on my left hand to the bone. The pain radiated from my right hip down my leg to the knee. As I got up and moved around the leg loosened up and the pain and stiffness decreased tremendously. On day four however, the pain and stiffness did not subside at all and I was in tears because of how bad the pain was when "trying" to walk. I then remembered that I had MMS and knew that I could tolerate a 6 drop dose, thinking at the time that I would need to do at least a few doses over the next few days (or however long it took). I took the 6 drop dose at bedtime and imagine my surprise when I woke up the next day without any pain in the leg whatsoever. I had already read how harmful vaccines were to the brain and body so was determined to not get one ever again, even though everyone online was saying that emergency room personnel told them that without the tetanus shot they would die. I had also read that large doses of vitamin C were effective against tetanus so I did increase the amount of ascorbic acid I was taking as well. I don't remember exactly how much I took – I believe it was 1 – 3 tablespoons per day – which is well above the recommended daily dose of a quarter teaspoon. Apparently it wasn't enough to kill the tetanus but may have helped so that the one 6 drop dose of MMS was all that was needed.
FYI, vitamin C inactivates MMS so they do need to be taken at least a few hours apart from each other.
Hello, I'm spanish and tried mms on my dog for cure a disease with possitive results, it was near die, losing much hair, with white-blue tongue and gums, with no energy and with the eyes like a sick, it was not moving, it's a shetland sheepdog, much energetic dog, after giving mms for about 10 days, he recovered and is like before get sick, I cured vaginal infection in my exgirlfriend and I knew also a man who cured prostatic cancer with this, I'm in Cebu actually and I would like to find mms, where can I find it please? thank you in advance.
Hi everyone, I'm from Lapu-Lapu Philippines I am looking where to buy MMS either here or in cebu. I read the articles and I would love to try them
I have a cyst that exploded few weeks ago
Thanks Amelita
Try Amazon.
Hi-I get mine from herb healers or alpha omega labs
MMS Jim Humble the Good the Bad the Truth
I've been working with, and researching, chlorine dioxide for two years. I've made my own batches of nearly 100%, using a different formula. There are more than eight formulas to make chlorine dioxide. I have the Genesis II Church member card. I'm not anti-MMS. Jim Humble is a great humanitarian, and must have been a good NASA engineer. However, his chemistry is bad, which he has said in his book. And his understanding of body biochemistry is completely wrong. My main purpose, for this paper, is to correct his mistakes.
The medical establishment's attack, against MMS, is based on a simplistic, uninformed, negative, buzz word slander. Clorox bleach is not labeled with the skull poison symbol. Like many products, it has warnings. And the warnings are exaggerated, as usual. For instance, it warns of burns to the skin. Hah, I've had bleach on my hands many times. It feels slimy, but doesn't cause a burn. They also use the word “industrial” bleach. “Industrial” makes it sound bad. Supermarket packaged foods are made in a factory. It's an industry. There's nothing bad about being industrial. Sodium chlorite and chlorine dioxide are in the general category of “bleach”. That's good if you want to disinfect. And chlorine dioxide is used, for instance in municipal water supplies, because it is the safest one. As I will cover later, bleach oxidizers can do damage. So concentrations must be low. I'm experienced enough to be aware of the inner works of some groups, especially ones like the FDA. The whole attack, on MMS, may possibly be traced to one man, Mr. Mizer in the US Dept. of Justice, since everyone is repeating his slander, about bleach. There's a cadre of such people who hate Christianity, and so can't stand medical people using the words “cure” or “miracle”. For sure, the attack is uninformed, and so it is illegitimate.
To begin correcting Jim's mistaken ideas about chemistry, chlorine dioxide is not an ion. It does not have a charge. It is a molecule. Molecules do not have a charge. Chlorine dioxide is unusual, in that it doesn't dissolve, ionize, in water. Body cells are a complex structure of many molecules. They do not have a charge. So chlorine dioxide is not repelled by body cells, and it is not attracted to only bad bacteria. Bacteria are cells, and so do not have a charge. The Gram Stain is not a positive or negative charge. The positive and negative means yes or no for the bacteria becoming stained with a dye. Chlorine dioxide is a free radical, meaning it has an unfilled electron space. This is how it oxidizes. When reacting with organic molecules, chlorine dioxide usually functions as a highly selective oxidant due to its unique, one-electron transfer mechanism where it is reduced back to the chlorite ion. When oxidizing some inorganics, like ferric oxide, it can accept a total of five electrons, which would break it down to a chloride ion, as in salt, and two oxygen ions. Jim's claim that electron shells hold atoms together, and that the nucleus would fly apart if the electrons are drawn away, is false. It takes a high-powered atom smasher to do that.
Chlorine dioxide is said to work differently on different pathogens. Bacteria, fungi, parasite and tumor cells are vulnerable to oxidants because of these components; thiols, polyamines, purines, amino acids with thiols, phenols, and amines [Dr. Thomas Hesselink's paper about malaria]. The method of chlorine dioxide bacterial kill, at low ppm concentration, seems to occur by the disruption of protein synthesis and enzyme inactivation. This is similar to the non-toxic mechanism of some common antibiotics. It does not blow a hole in cell walls. It acts on good as well as bad bacteria, so probiotics should be taken after treatment is finished. Oxidation of RNA and DNA do not appear to take place, or are at least unimportant in the process. The site of action lies in the soluble fraction of the cell and there appears to be no damage to internal structural components such as ribosomes. At high ppm, the method of rapid bacterial and viral kill appears to be the softening and destroying of the cell wall, or viral capsid. Chlorine dioxide is known to react with iron and manganese compounds, sulfur bonds, and colors. Chlorine dioxide can definitely hurt body tissue, as well as pathogens. It kills algae, parasite organisms, and some insect eggs or larvae, such as mosquitoes. If the concentration is high enough, it can kill zebra mussels and some fish, such as trout (the lethal LC50 for rainbow trout is 290 ppm for 96 hours). Since I believed Jim's harmlessness claim, at first, I took massive doses of pure chlorine dioxide, and inhaled full breaths of it. Once, my lungs hurt for three days afterwards. And massive doses caused my ears to ring, probably damaging sensitive inner ear nerve hairs. So doses should be kept small, and luckily chlorine dioxide works with the lowest doses, compared to other disinfectants. There are many institutional papers assessing the toxicity of chlorine dioxide, sodium chlorite and chlorate. The main problem area is red blood cells. With prolonged, higher dose (up to 1000 ppm for chlorine dioxide, and 100 ppm for chlorite and chlorate) daily use in rat's drinking water, for 1-2 months, some hemoglobin can be oxidized to methemoglobin which doesn't carry oxygen. Also, red blood cell count can decrease. Chlorate (ClO3-), which can rupture RBCs, is the worst with serious RBC loss after nine months. There is a claim that some chlorate can be produced in MMS reactions, such as with pH less than 3, and some chemical studies claim chlorine dioxide can change into some chlorate in water. Red blood cells have glutathione to protect them from oxidation, but cell levels can be decreased with prolonged treatment. Other studies show no methemoglobin at these dose levels. There is a reference stating that there's an enzyme that reduces methemoglobin back to normal hemoglobin. One study with low dose, single dose, pure chlorine dioxide using people, showed no problems at 0.34 mg/kg of body weight. In these studies, the doses of sodium chlorite and chlorate were only 1/10th of the amount of chlorine dioxide, evidently for safety reasons, meaning they considered chlorine dioxide much safer. Different studies have found the following safe levels of chlorine dioxide in all of the drinking water, per day: 15 mg/kg in mice for 1 month; 9 mg/kg in green monkeys for 1-2 months; 2 mg/kg in Sprague-Dawley rats for 3 months. At higher doses there could be some nasal irritation from chlorine dioxide gas evaporating at the drinking tube. Effect on newborn rat pups: decreased pup development, decreased thyroid hormone levels (thyroid hormones T3 and T4 are phenols), and decreased brain cell count, were found at 14 mg/kg of body weight per day in drinking water for the mother rats during gestation and lactation. Dosing below 14 mg/kg had no observed effect, such as in a 3 mg/kg test. I don't think anyone should take maintenance doses for years, especially with so much sodium chlorite in the MMS mix. And doses should be in mg/kg or /pound of body weight, not in drops. Also, Jim is wrong about MMS lasting only one hour in the body. Rat studies show that 100% chlorine dioxide, not the MMS mix, reaches peak blood level in 2 hours, with half absorbed in 3.5 hours. The leftover sodium chlorite, in the MMS mix, reaches peak blood level in 8 hours. 21% of it is still in the blood after 72 hours. So dosing every hour is not a good idea. Studies use one dose per day. There probably hasn't been much research about the effect of chlorite and chlorine dioxide on prescription drugs in the body, but oxidizers are one thing used by illegal drug users to nullify drugs in their urine test. So they probably can affect some prescription drugs in the body. For myself, I would only take low dose pure chlorine dioxide, such as chlorine dioxide solution (CDS), or the new MMS1 tablets in a glass of water [do not swallow the tablet]. The tablets use sodium hydrogen sulfate as the activator, which produces near 100% ClO2. Precautions must be employed in people with glucose-6-phosphate-dehydrogenase deficiency disease, as they are especially sensitive to oxidants of all kinds.
As chlorine dioxide is a free radical, antioxidants will quench it back into a chlorite ion. This happens with many antioxidants; Vit. E, Vit. A, CoQ10, flavonoids, Beta-carotene, Lycopene, Lutein, etc., not only vitamin C. So no antioxidant supplements, or natural juices or foods should be consumed with chlorine dioxide. Lemon, or lime juice, has vitamin C and other antioxidants, so are not good to mix with chlorine dioxide. Jim is partially correct about ascorbic acid. Ascorbic acid, if used at less than about a ratio of 2 moles ascorbic acid to 1 mole chlorite ion, would end up forming ClO2, because it's an acid. For no ClO2 to form, the reaction requires more than approximately 2 moles of ascorbic acid per mole of chlorite ion. In terms of ppm, it takes about 5.2 ppm ascorbic acid to destroy 1 ppm of chlorite ion. In fact, ascorbic acid produces about four times as much ClO2 as citric (see table below), the most in the short list.
Organic Acid Activation of Chlorite
Acid …. gm .. ClO2
Tartaric 0.64 239
Oxalic 0.53 628
Adipic 0.79 73
Citric 0.77 192
Itaconic 0.72 105
Ascorbic 0.68 >770
While I'm at it, the public should not be told to mix their own chemistry experiments. People don't follow orders exactly, make changes, and aren't professional enough to calculate the exact molecular weights of the reactants, and balance the formula. People need to buy a professionally made product.
Jim believes that MMS gets completely changed into chlorine dioxide in the stomach, if you swallow it. This is no more true than what happens when activating MMS in a glass beaker. There is only a small continuous basal secretion of gastric acid, on an empty stomach, of usually less than 10 mEq/hour. It takes food to stimulate the secretion of gastric fluid, and then the HCl is only 0.5 to 1% of it. And acidifying sodium chlorite does not produce chlorine dioxide as the first step. It produces chlorous acid, HClO2. [HCl + NaClO2 = HClO2 + NaCl] HClO2 is unstable, and breaks down into chlorine dioxide and hydrochloric acid. [5 HClO2 decomposes to 4 ClO2 + HCl + 2 H2O] Furthermore, at a pH in the range of 2.3 – 3.2, only about 30% chlorous acid is produced from the acidification. That leaves about 70% leftover sodium chlorite.
Citric acid is a weak acid, and only produces about 10% chlorine dioxide. And citric acid can have the taste problem. Luckily, the leftover sodium chlorite is also a disinfectant, although it is much harsher than chlorine dioxide, and not as selective. With exact concentrations and conditions, HCl can produce nearly 100% chlorine dioxide. Also, the acidification of 1.3M sodium chlorite with 10% acetic acid yielded almost entirely chlorine dioxide as the major product of the disproportionation. Acidified Sodium Chlorite is used by many food processing companies, and the short-lived chlorous acid is also a disinfectant.
Sodium chlorite is a different animal. I have brushed my teeth with less than one ounce of 80% sodium chlorite solution. Afterwards, one corner of my lips hurt, and my gums were red and sore, with a small amount of bleeding when brushed. This took several days to heal. A single dose of 105 mg/kg weight will kill half of rats tested. That's called the LD50, lethal dose. For a 150 lb person, that's a little over 7 grams. In another test, with cats, a single dose of 1.5 mg/kg caused as much as 32% methemoglobin. That's losing about 1/3 of your blood oxygen supply. This loss does reverse back into normal hemoglobin over time. A 90 day study on rats found a No Adverse Effect Level at 1 mg/kg. Another 13 week study found very serious consequences at the highest doses; death, increased spleen and adrenal weights, ulceration, chronic inflammation and edema in the stomach. In a 90 day study, red blood cell glutathione levels, in a high dose group, were 40% below those of controls. MMS with citric acid has about 90% sodium chlorite leftover. So it's safer to use only chlorine dioxide alone.
Under some circumstances, calcium hypochlorite, MMS2, solutions can decompose to form some chlorate. In water it reacts to form hypochlorous acid and calcium hydroxide. This is the same chemistry as Clorox, sodium hypochlorite. The hydroxide part is caustic. It eats into body tissue. It's well known that these pool chemicals can irritate the eyes, if you swim a long time. He notes that hypochlorous acid is formed in the body. Yes. However it is formed inside white blood cells when they find an invading micro-organism, and only then. So it works only on the invader. Normal mammalian body cells, as well as bacteria, do not have a catalytically active detoxifying mechanism for it. So the hypochlorous acid can destroy body tissue as well as invaders. And ingesting it puts it in your bloodstream and body. Also, it's not as effective as chlorine dioxide. So it offers nothing new. No one should ingest MMS2, calcium hypochlorite, in any way. Swallowing a capsule containing solid calcium hypochlorite must surely “burn” the stomach. Also, calcium hypochlorite reacts with hydrochloric acid, stomach acid, to produce chlorine gas. Chlorine gas is the worst of all types of chlorine compounds. Here's a quote from one of Jim's books: “Actually my friend next door in the Nevada desert, Bill Boynton, came over one day and said that calcium hypochlorite killed germs in swimming pools and it might just be another MMS. He suggested that we try taking small amounts and see what happens. I figured if he was game to do it, I was too. We made up some gel capsules with calcium hypochlorite in them and started taking them and when they didn't kill us, we had some friends take them…. I decided to use the gel caps and started sending it out to people in the gel cap form. It's something a doctor could never do. He has the Hippocratic Oath and AMA and FDA looking over his shoulder. But I am an inventor and never took that oath.” p.112.
Stabilized Oxygen, as sodium chlorite, is known by some people as a biocide for killing parasites. And at first, this is what Jim used, alone, to cure malaria. It's not clear who started selling Stabilized Oxygen, or why the mistaken name was used. It goes back far enough that the ingredient was not listed, leading to confusion. In 1929, Dr. Mois de Guevarra was selling a dry powder named “stabilized oxygen”. In 1971, Dr. La Mar was the first to use a solution with “stabilized oxygen” to increase blood oxygen level. Evidently, it's unknown if either of these was sodium chlorite. E.D. Goodloe, 1971, sold “aerobic stabilized oxygen”, produced in a 2-month-long production process in 14 stages. The oxygen is in association with sodium chloride, not sodium chlorite. Sodium chlorite could be used alone, as long as doses are below the vomiting threshold. Making up a new name, for Stabilized Oxygen (sodium chlorite), is what commercial companies do to sell a product. And changing the wording, of MMS, only causes confusion. Health newsletters simply use the names of the chemicals.
Getting sick, with Jim's method, is not a herxheimer reaction. The herxheimer reaction (Jarrisch and Herxheimer) is a phenomena originally observed in the treatment of syphilis. In general terms, it is described as a temporary increase of symptoms when antibiotics are administered. This effect happens with only a few diseases. Similar reactions have been found to occur in two kinds of borreliosis (Lyme disease and relapsing fever), brucellosis, Q fever, and trypanosomiasis. Herxheimer can occur within days to weeks after the onset of antibiotic therapy. The most common effects include: increased joint or muscle pain, headaches, chills, fever (usually low-grade), drop in blood pressure, hives and rash. Lyme is the main one, now, to have this problem. The extremely large doses of pure chlorine dioxide, that I took, caused no nausea, vomiting or diarrhea. In fact I felt high until the next morning. I've also swallowed a half eye-dropper of the 80% liquid sodium chlorite alone in water. It caused a vomit stomach spasm reaction within 30 minutes. Chlorous acid is evidently the one that causes liquid diarrhea. I got that with my first use of MMS with lime juice. The vomiting and diarrhea are the body's attempt to get rid of what you ingested. They are not a die-off or Herxheimer effect.
We owe Jim for making this subject public, and his other work. But I discovered, from being on the Genesis II Church Forum, that everyone was extremely closed minded about saying anything that disagreed with Jim. They ban people who disagree with anything, even a chemist. I was banned for trying to explain some of Jim's mistakes. I don't like to criticize people, but by telling people that he was the first to wire something for NASA, and worked on nuclear bombs, and so on, he's created an atmosphere that he is perfect, and knows more. That's the kind of problem in cults. Chlorine dioxide, and acidified sodium chlorite, are not new. There's been plenty of official health research, and patents, long before Jim found that “stabilized oxygen” (sodium chlorite) kills the malaria parasite. And some of his protocols may have too much sodium chlorite per day. He's so unprofessional that he doesn't give dosages per pound of weight of the patient. Obviously Jim has done no stomach sample tests, or blood tests to prove his claims. Chlorine dioxide has been said, by a chemist society, to be the best anti-pathogen. But do your own research. I'm not trying to scare you away from MMS. As long as you stay within the No Adverse Effect Levels, it's usable. If I had a deadly disease, I would use it even at somewhat damaging levels.
For recommended dose levels of the sodium chlorite part, see Dr. Hesselink's table below. One benefit of these chlorine oxidants is that, in low doses, they can stimulate white blood cells to produce cytokines which stimulate other white blood cells, activating the immune system. There's a great Patent, from 1990's work, with very exacting biochemical research. The test studies showed that sodium chlorite alone is successful at treating autoimmune diseases, which may include some diabetes-1, Parkinson, MS, ALS, etc. [Use of a chemically-stabilized chlorite solution for inhibiting an antigen-specific immune response]
And lets not forget about good old colloidal silver. It kills every bacterial disease. And there are new refinements about using ionic silver, Ag+. One company is making tetra silver-tetra oxide, which is said to be far superior. Also claims are being made that silver can kill some virus' and some fungi. So chlorine dioxide may best be used for it's more amazing results on problems like virus, fungus, parasites, diabetes, autoimmune, arterial plaque, Alzheimer brain plaque, COPD, tar deposits in smoker's lungs, and other problems that need more research and testing.
Dr. Hesselink's Table [Average 1 mg/kg per day]
Probable Dosages per day of Sodium Chlorite For Various Body Weights
Weight
Weight
Start
Average
Maximum
Lethal
9 lb
4 kg
1 mg
4 mg
8 mg
400 mg
13 lb
6 kg
1.5 mg
6 mg
12 mg
600 mg
22 lb
10 kg
2.5 mg
10 mg
20 mg
1000 mg
30 lb
14 kg
3.5 mg
14 mg
28 mg
1400 mg
44 lb
20 kg
5 mg
20 mg
40 mg
2000 mg
66 lb
30 kg
7.5 mg
30 mg
60 mg
3000 mg
100 lb
45 kg
11 mg
45 mg
90 mg
4, 500 mg
154 lb
70 kg
17.5 mg
70 mg
140 mg
7000 mg
220+ lb
100+ kg
25 mg
100 mg
200 mg
10, 000 mg
Lab Tests with Chlorine Dioxide Disinfection examples include bacteria, yeast, fungi, mold, algae, spores, protozoans, cryptosporidia, actinomycetes, cysts, giardia and larval eggs (mosquito, tse tse fly), insect eggs and larvae (agricultural pests, fruit fly, floricultural and horticultural insects), problematic veligers (zebra mussels, quagga mussels), fish and shellfish diseases (VHS, KHS, ISA) and many others. Unlike chlorine, ClO2 has the ability to kill water-borne viruses such as legionella, cholera, dengue, hepatitis and typhoid. ClO2 also kills airborne viruses when misted into air. Airborne viruses include anthrax, influenza, SARS, smallpox, chickenpox and avian flu. ClO2 kills all known bacteria, including coliform, salmonella, E-coli, listeria and cinobacteria. ClO2 eliminates microbial slime (biofilm).
Hospital Infection Research Laboratory UK, Institute de Recherche Microbiologique France, Micropathology UK, Biotech-Germande France, Bluscientific UK, PHLS UK
Spores: Bacillus cereus, Bacillus subtilis, Bacillus subtilis var niger, Anthrax [used to disinfect the DC anthrax attack]
Mycobacteria: Mycobacterium avium-intracellulare, Mycobacterium chelonae, Mycobacterium fortuitum, Mycobacterium terrae, Mycobacterium tuberculosis, Mycobacterium tuberculosis Poli-R
Viruses: Canine Parvovirus, Coxsackivirus B3, Hepatitis A, Hepatitis B, Hepatitis C, Herpes simplex virus Type 1, HIV Type 1, Human Norovirus, Influenza virus Type A2, Poliovirus Type 1, Poliovirus Type 2, SARS,
Fungi: Aspergillus niger, Candida albicans
Bacteria: Acetinobacter baumannii, Clostridium difficile [C. diff], Enterococcus faecium (vancomycin resistant), Enterococcus hirae, Escherichia coli [E. coli], Pseudomonas aeruginosa, Pseudomonas aeruginosa (gentamicin resistant), Staphylococcus aureus, Staphylococcus aureus (methicillin resistant) [MRSA], Salmonella, Campylobacter, and Listeria monocytogenes
In reply to Bob (Murphy, Nc),
Thank you for the informative post! That is information that anyone considering taking MMS should read first!
Art
You are welcome, Art.
BOB,,,,,, CLO2 is a gas and you dissolve in 40 degree water at a specific low concentration least it explodes. There are several chlorine hypochlorites, calcium and sodium and they are totally differently compounds than ClO2 . When vacation is over, I will address your post. Still have a lot to learn, but I spent 40 years manufacturing ClO2 and using it in bleaching pulp. I have never made it via Hubble's MMS method, but have been sent to the hospital a number of times when ClO2 fumes got out of control.
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Hello Mr. Henry. Great to hear from a man who works with ClO2. I know you keep ClO2 in cold water, and that it can explode above 10% conc. in air. I've had release of too much gas in my house. It's gets uncomfortable quickly, with coughing.
Did you ever use ClO2 gas to bleach pulp, like is done to kill mold in a house?
Great info Bob.
I have been looking for a balancing discussion on MMS. My wife suffers from a combination of auto-immune disorders (Sjogren's, Lupus, Rhumatoid Arthritis) and my 16 daughter had a bout of mono that has left her with severe fatigue and nervous system sensitivity.
While it is clear from your presentation that chlorine dioxide is safer and effective, it seems that sodium chlorite would be a better choice to treat autoimmune conditions.
Also, does Hesselink's table refer to daily dosages?
Thank you Hube. Here's a quote from Hesselink's page; The usual or appropriate dose so far seems to be about 1 mg per kg per day. That's the Average in the table. https://bioredox.mysite.com/CLOXhtml/CLOXprot.htm
Yes, the Patent, mentioned, uses sodium chlorite https://www.google.com/patents/US20110076344 for autoimmune. But perhaps chlorine dioxide would also work, and at lower safer doses. I was surprised to learn that Parkinson's, ALS, MS, rhum. arthritis, etc, can be auto-. This Patent has the most exact bio-chemistry research, I've seen. [Note: there's a typo in the Patent. ClO2 is missing the minus sign. Should be ClO2-.]
Bob, you and others might be interested in learning that Mel's protocol of How I cured Morgellons uses MMS but not in the way of Jim Humble.
While I am sure Bob (Murphy, Nc) sure or whatever his name is has a good heart and means well, he is highly inaccurate about much of his writing about MMS. He isn't nearly as smart about chemistry as he think he is. I don't have the time to go over all of his writing, but his mistakes are very numerous, here is an example. He states that MMS kills good and bad bacteria alike and therefore stomach flora needs to be replaced after using MMS. But I treated 60,000 people around the world and none need to replace their stomach flora and if they did I would have seen it. Lenntech is a company with a web site who has been selling chlorine dioxide for 50 years and their technology states that chlorine dioxide is indeed selective in what it kills. If Bob was going to write a lot of stuff about MMS a liquid that has saved thousands of lives he should have done a lot more studying before jumping in their and talking about something he still knows very little about.
Jim, All I will say as a humble non-chemist with a deal of common sense is that I don't see how you can claim it does not kill ''good'' bacteria! Does it knock on its door and say ''Are you good or bad?''. Nooooo! Are good bacteria immune to destruction? Noooo! I think, basically, you are wrong!
Just wanted to comment on Bob Murphy's comments about me and MMS. I am sorry to say it, but much of Bob's comments about MMS are incorrect and about me (Jim Humble) are totally incorrect. First, the people who work with me are plenty happy to jump me about incorrect stuff, and I don't know of anyone who was banned because they disagreed with me. A couple of people cheated the Church out of thousands of dollars and were banned, but you don't call that disagreeing with me. Bob has never met me or talked to me and yet he is here telling everyone I am arrogant and that I think I know more. Then he tells you that chlorine dioxide and acidified sodium chlorite are not new. But if he is going to write about how wrong I am don't you think he should have read my book? At least read my last book in which I tell people that there were many patents issued on sodium chlorite in the last century and that chlorine dioxide was used in hospitals where thousands of tests were made in the 1980's. I never ever thought of saying that I was the first to work with acidified sodium chlorite (That's MMS).
Bob should have read my latest book before making most of his statement. But he didn't and he just made dozens of mistakes in how to use MMS and I'd like to say he made all those statement about me with never meeting me or knowing about me.
So in case you are going to use MMS let me point our some of his obvious mistakes. (1) He states, "some of his (my) protocols may have too much sodium chlorite per day. He is so unprofessional that he doesn't give dosages per pound of weight of the patient." Again he didn't read my book. I suggest that everyone start out at 1/4 drop of MMS. I have given mice 1/4 drop without adverse reactions. Well I don't want to get into a long drawn out protocol, but I give three golden rules to follow after doing the 1/4 drop all day each hour. (A) As long as you are getting better, don't change anything. (B) If you are feeling worse, cut your next dose in Half. (C) If you are not feeling worse nor better (nothing is changing) increase the doses a little. NO ONE GETS MORE THAN THEY NEED WHILE FOLLOWING ALL OF MY DIRECTIONS. It's easy for anyone on the street.
One sample how goofs in his chemical evaluation of MMS. He acts like a High school chemist. Like most chemists he jumps in there and says when acidifying sodium chlorite it turns first to an acid and not to chlorine dioxide. Well, yes, true, but that is for only 1/2 second and the it turns to chlorine dioxide which you drink and you body never knew it was that acid before it was chlorine dioxide.
Then he says that I say that sodium chlorite turns mostly to chlorine dioxide in your stomach. No, No, that isn't so. Read my books. When you acidify a drop of MMS with a drop of activator only 1/10th of the sodium chlorite in that drop turns to chlorine dioxide and then when you drink it (that 1/10th has already turned to chlorine dioxide) and now in your stomach another 1/10th of that drop turns to chlorine dioxide by the normal stomach acid in most people's stomach. So you see only 2/10ths are turned to chlorine dioxide. But this isn't bad. I could have change that. But sodium chlorite unactivated is important to the body too and MMS is much more effective when it has both chlorine dioxide and unactivated sodium chlorite.
Sorry, I don't have time to tell you in all the places where he screwed up, but it was many and his chemistry was not great. When he said that people who finish with a MMS protocol need probiotics for the stomach to replace the flora he as again wrong. The company Lenntech is a company that has been selling chlorine dioxide for 50 years and they state that chlorine dioxide is in fact truly selective in what it can kill. When I first went to Africa I went to a Missionary group that had 50 churches dotted through the jungle area. Each church had 50 to 200 people waiting for me with malaria. In one month I treated 5000 cases of malaria and over a period of years I treat 60,000 sick people with MMS and never notice any of them needing replacement of stomach flora (that is if they didn't already need it before being treated). If you are going to use MMS I suggest you read my latest book and not rely on Bob's chemistry. Sorry about sounding mean. Don't mean too. But Bob decided I was a bad guy without meeting me and talked about the truth, so just wanted you to know I am not a dictator and just want to see people get well. That's my job.
Jim Humble
Hello Jim. Good to see you here. No one has treated more people than you.
You have an amazingly strong effect on people. Nearly everyone is repeating your ideas. Everything, I wrote, is from scientific information. I could have listed the references, but that would have made it longer and more difficult. I can send you links to the information.
The flora isn't in the stomach, it's in people's intestines. People can't feel the bacteria in their intestines, so no one would know what is there. There aren't symptoms caused by a lack of such bacteria. And from their first meal, bacteria would be added to their bodies. It isn't necessary to take probiotics, it's merely good advice.
Right, chlorine dioxide, not MMS which also has leftover sodium chlorite, is more selective. That means it only reacts with some amino acids, and chemicals, such as with sulfur bonds. That's the part that makes it safer. Selective does not mean that it can "know" whether a bacteria is good or bad. I've read comments by doctors saying some good bacteria are anaerobic, and some bad bacteria live with oxygen. Either way, the cell membrane and interiors of both bacteria are the same.
Did you read my whole Post? Perhaps you got the impression that I am advising people to not use chlorine dioxide. That's not the case. I have thought about the idea that my Post may discourage some people. But I think it's important that people get the correct science info, especially with so many people reaching the vomit and diarrhea level.
About Jim's second Post, I don't believe in arguing with people. I could correct his continued claims, such as that he recommends only 1/4 drop. That's his most recent advice, after about 10 years of starting at a higher dose.
And I have read his books, including his new Health Recovery Manual. That's how I know his ideas.
I'm not disputing how much work Jim has put into helping people.
HI U JIM AND BOB,,,,,,, spent 40 years making ClO2 in the paper industry and breathed the washer residual almost constantly. However, I'm not going to get into this "pissin contest" between you two. Reason being is that I have not ever made ClO2 this way and never took it as a health remedy. What I will say is that I do Ozone at home with a medical generator and at clinics for PROLOZONE SHOTS.
It was the Germans that blazed this Ozone trail and Dr Shallenberger brought it to the U. S. I think CLO2 is in this category that can help mankind, but it will be after the fight with Big Pharma and the AMA. One paper mill ClO2 generator would supply the world, but I would almost be impossible to ship it as a solution. Jim, your MMS procedure solves that problem, but I have reservations about the control. I've read enough over the years to know that the medical folks wanted to put you in prison because you were so successful.
Have you heard of Ebola lately? No, because a U.S. doctor showed the local doctors how to cure the disease with Ozone. When that first happened the media played the drama to the hilt and Big Pharma had $ signs in their eyes.
Jim, I do think you have to back off on your claim that ClO2 only kills the bad stuff and not the good stuff. Anti-biotics kills both, as does Ozone, so why is CLO2 any different. That just goes with the territory and you can build your gut flora back in a short while. Don't get side tracked with this argument. I just wish some open minded folks like the Germans would look into CLO2.
Another protocol that works, but is outlawed, is the Rife Machine. I have one. Your DNA tells your your health problems and that science is here and now…. only in the closet. One of these days this test will be done and you will go into room where you will be hit with frequencies that kill all the critters that are affecting your health, including cancer. It won't help a car wreck victim, but it will cure general health problems.
Let me suggest that we make a chicken salad out of this chicken sheet situation. You boys talk to one another is a civil manner and you can move the world. Lots of good can come out of this mess. I want it to happen.
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By the way, Jim, you have made another very important discovery, that MMS destroys some, or all, venoms and poisons. I just read that anti-venoms can cost $10,000 and have a short shelf life, so hospitals don't stock them. It's also dangerous to make anti-venoms because someone needs to handle the snake to get some venom.
Bob Henry … I see you've been posting about chlorine dioxide for a long time here.
I'll bet you never got a cold, flu, or infection when you worked with it, LOL. What were your symptoms when you had ClO2 leaks? How long did pulp need to soak to get bleached?
You ask about how to take ClO2. There's only one Protocol; take pure chlorine dioxide, not MMS. The solution in water, CDS, goes weak after a few weeks in the refrigerator. So the best way to get it is the dry MMS1 tablets, available in the US at mmstabs.com Not the MMS2 pool bleach! And don't swallow the tablets, as Jim recommends, unless you feel like burning your stomach. Put the tabs in a cup or glass of water, let sit for 1/2 hour to make sure it completely reacts. The activator used is sodium hydrogen sulfate leading to near 100% ClO2. And keep the tabs in the fridge or freezer, the dry chlorite decomposes.
Do you have any illness?
Bob
"That's his most recent advice, after about 10 years of starting at a higher dose."
When I took MMS, I started with One drop (as directed)
BOB,,,,,,,,,, back in those days, I stayed totally stressed due to my job and my A 1 personality. Also, I smoked about 4 packs of unfiltered Camel cigs a day. Quit in '73 to buy a 4 wheel drive Ford pickup as my wife thought I was taking food out of the kids mouth to do both.
I was the mill Supt and after a year my assistant told me that I was the conservation piece of a group and all were proud that I had quit smoking. They all agreed that if I started smoking again then they hoped I never quit, because I had been one SOB for the last year.
I wish I could shed some light on breathing ClO2 over the years. I can't. All I can say is that I'm still perking. My gut tells me that there is some good in this compound, but I really don't know. I know there is no good in breathing Chlorine. It will kill you in a minute.
Bob, keep plugging away. You may some day be famous. Just think of how Bill Munro impacted the world with his simple procedure. My gut tells me that the biggies are Ozone, ClO2, ACV, PEMF and the Rife Machine. Too bad Gates nor Buffet are sponsoring any of these. Instead they are doing stuff to control our population. I agree with that, but not their way.
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I like to add something about the selectivity of ClO2. Been an electrical/computer engineer for decades, turned into a full-time researcher in alternative medicine.
Have personal experiences involving gut-flora matter. Due to many dental implant works, had to go thru antibiotic treatments many times. Still remember vividly how lousy I felt doing antibiotics, but had no choice, but to go thru with them. I knew too well that was due to the loss of my friendly bacteria. How I wanted to get them back! As soon as I was done, immediately started probiotics, which took a while but I got back to healthy self.
Later on, I got smarter, did some quick research, found that probiotics can go along with antibiotics! So I did both simultaneously and problem seemed much easier. Pretty nice. When I did become aware of MMS by JH, I was apprehensive about its safety, but, as a medical reseacher, decided to go in deeper, make my own conclusion. Gradually, I became a believer, tested it out few times drinking 1 or 2 drops at a time and it seems that I don't have much problem with it. Decided to use this instead of antibiotics during dental works.
I started P1000 right after the dental surgeries w/o probiotics. Why? "My Body did not want it" ! It was natural not to have any probiotics, in fact, it never occur to me during MMS. I went thru this few times, my MMS Protocol 1000 replacing the antibiotics ! Not used probiotics during P1000, didn't feel I need it. (didn't tell my dentist about this, but wonder how he would react when I tell him. His prescription? straight down to garbage can)
Feeling so nice knowing I don't depend on antibiotics, my gut-flora intact?? no worry of antibiotics habit-forming. I was very hot in selectivity research last year, but now things are bit vague. Don't know if you guys ran into this, but the best article I saw last year was, https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1304/1304.5163.pdf [Editor's Note: This 32 page .pdf entitled "Demonstrating that chlorine dioxide is a size-selective antimicrobial agent and high purity ClO2 can be used as a local antiseptic" may take a long time to load depending on your internet connection.]
Their find was 'selectivity' has to do with 'size' of the organisms. This may give one additional explanation to selectivity, just one, may not be all.
I do believe there is "selectivity" with ClO2! I do not believe that JH needs to back off, remembering his conclusion been based on zillions of experiences.
We may not understand its full mechanism as of now, but maybe someday, there might be. Not understanding does not warrant Negation. Selectivity of ClO2 seems REAL and science(or theory of it) always FOLLOWed reality, not the other way around. Isn't the quantum mechanics one of these?
They tried to understand the funny behavior of "light", winded up a theory "the cat can be alive or dead at the same time"… or that sort of weird thing.
They, those young scientists, basically force-fit the theory to reality, winded up Quantum Mechanics despite Einstein refused it saying, "God does not play dice".
The Quant. Mech. has been proven the most successful theory today.
PS: I've been very much interested in Rife Machine, but my impression has been it is non-trivial to use it since those critical frequencies are to hard to pin-point.
So with current electronic techniques, they basically sweep freqs "carpet bombing". Mr. Rife was highly successful because he had his venerable microscope that can see the microbes(even those viruses) while trying to select right frequency to kill them. It was like "taking an exam knowing all the answers". And that's our problem, no super-microscope.
Anyhow I'd like to get some real info, if possible, name of dependable machines, how successful you are Robert Henry.
Bob .. 4 packs/day, wow that's a lot. I started smoking 10 years ago, a long story. I have a hunch that breathing ClO2 may dissolve some of the tar in the lungs. When I first started experimenting, I deliberately inhaled a full breath of a large amount made with vinegar. That first one did not hurt my lungs in the least. The next time I inhaled a full breath was when my lungs hurt for 3 days. So it seems that the first time cleaned my lungs. Perhaps working with it kept your lungs clean.
I know about the FDA corruption, and other conspiracy info. And I know about ozone, which will also hurt your lungs pretty quickly. I had a subscription to Dr. Rowen's newsletter. He's the one who went to Africa, and was curing ebola until the govt kicked him out. Ozone will turn almost anything organic into CO2, O2 and H2O.
I also know about Rife. I know there are several types of devices available. I bought the best one, that is a little different, Frequency Specific Micro-current. It uses two channels and low frequency. It's doing the seemingly impossible. I'll see if there's posts here.
I'm not looking to be famous. And I don't like going against Humble. But his advice is making everyone eventually vomiting with diarrhea. And MMS2 is even worse.
Bob
J Park … Thanks for that article. ClO2 is definitely selective against only some chemicals. That makes it safer. I don't see how size comes into the idea of acting on bacteria. Are you saying that good and bad bacteria are different sizes? And ClO2 is a molecule. A single celled bacteria is composed of how many molecules, a million? I'll look at the article. But again, you can't feel gut bacteria. And it isn't necessary to take probiotics. Food supplies that.
Check my Post in Rife Machines. There's a different type that is far better than any of them, Frequency Specific Micro-Current.
We truly lost something valuable in Rife's microscope.
J Parks .. I'm reading your paper. Sorry, "size" refers to how far into skin that ClO2 could soak in the time that it is put on the skin as an antiseptic for an infection. It did not refer to the size of a bacteria. They say all bacteria are killed in milliseconds, while a few minutes on the skin would not penetrate more than 0.1 mm, so the damage would be limited.
See Patent US 2011/0076344 A1
Methods of using a stabilized chlorite solution to inhibit antigen-speciic immune responses are disclosed. The stabililized chlorite solution, When administered to a mammal in need thereof, can prevent the presentation of antigens by antigen presenting cells. The stabilized chlorite solution therefore is useful in treating, inter alia, auto-immune diseases, treating diseases caused by an inappropriate immune response, treating lymphoproliferative disease and in inhibting rejection in transplant patients.
Sorry being late for response, have been very busy elsewhere.
I think I have to explain how I got my PEACE with MMS. There seems to be some confusion as to type of selectivity, so I'll make 3 points:
1.MMS is selective against big guys & small guys(microbes good or bad).
Due to the structural difference, ClO2 (being very weak oxidizer/killer) has enough power to kill small guys(microbes good or bad in the mean time) while leaving mostly alone those healthy human cells.
Jim Humble did mention that in one of his book, about the size, so I don't believe there is much problem to accept that.
This is one way I found peace with MMS. This size difference is the MAIN benefit we get from MMS.
2.MMS kills both good or bad microbes? The answer to this question is "who care?"
There may not be much structural difference between those good or bad fellows.
Let's assume that MMS kills both indiscriminately. Antibiotics, as we well know, are indiscriminate killers, they kill them all. But they have been valuable saving human lives, haven't they? The damage they cause is temporary & reversible, we can restore those beneficial bugs one way or another, sooner or later. As a result we get the health benefits.
3.MMS is selective against those good and bad microbes?
Of course! They are other differences besides structural.
This is well known fact.
First off, let's use some common senses. Recalling that ClO2 carries 2 oxygens. We human live on oxygen, so do those aerobic microbes. Hence we can see the common factor already while anaerobic ones get killed by oxygen. More technically, more aerobic microbes are beneficial (we accept exceptions of course) and more anaerobic ones are bad. So it is fair to say that More/most aerobic microbes are good and More anaerobic ones are bad.
Aerobic ORGANISMs possess ENZYMES to remove ROS(reactive oxygen species, form of well-known strong oxidant) such as catalases, peroxidases and superoxide dismutases,
but in ANAEROBEs these are often absent or present in low concentration.
So it doesn't make sense to have aerobic microbes get killed by oxidation and it DOES make sense to have anaerobic microbes get killed by oxidation. Those microbes way outnumbers our cells, don't think we have identified them all nor classified them all good or bad but it's not that hard to accept MOST aerobic microbes survive the oxidant MMS while MOST anaerobic ones get perished to give us health benefits.
PS: as an old man, I haven't found peace with God yet like you R.Henry, I envy you (I'm trying hard).
Wow. I learned so much from all of the posts here. I wish you all would continue. Thanks for all of the information!
I hope they pay you well!! Thank you for sharing your hard work with us!
Hello there, can somebody tell me where I can get immediate supply of MMS in the Philippines, more precisely in Manila. If I order it from aboad, it takes between 3 to 8 days to get there. My live-in-partner is actually at the hospital with dengue fever. There is no other medicine than MMS that can help as we found with the son of her sister. We had tried it on him and it had worked very effectively. Or any neighboring country with one day delivery. Thanks you all….. Rolf
H: Try searching using the keyword "Sodium Chlorite" or "28% Sodium Chlorite". Adding lemon juice drops to the S.C. will make MMS.
OK, I am excited at the major progress Jim Humble and his little band of health warriors have made over the last few yrs. in regards to Miracle Mineral Supplement (MMS). I have purchased & read the first 2 publications Breakthrough: The Miracle Mineral Solution Of The Twenty-first Century Parts 1 & 2,4th Edition
Without going into detail of all the major interventions in my severe condition, of both pharmaceutical and natural remedies, I can say from personal experience, that these words "breakthrough" and "miracle" are not simply or exclusively marketing slogans. I have used MMS sporadically for a few yrs to now and among the arsenal of medicines & remedies I have used to keep myself above ground with a pulse, that MMS is the top gun and no matter how bad I get sometimes, I always have MMS that absolutely has the power & potential to stop the dying process.
MMS is so powerful a pathogen killer that it must be administered in small doses and increase slowly, as is recommended by Jim and his team. As a way for illustration, Jim describes one molecule of ClO2 as a Tasmanian Devil in the cartoon and he get's off the bus where there are five evil pathogen thugs ready to kill the people coming onto the street, but Taz licks em' because he has the power. In chemical analogy or language, 1 molecule of ClO2 forcefully accepts 5 electrons from the nucleus of whatever number of pathogens (proly 2-3). That is, ClO2 is a powerful reduction agent. When the nuclei of the pathogen looses it's orbiting electrons, it becomes entirely unstable and explodes (which causes the herx reaction in the partaker).
As a "killer extraordinaire" of pathogens, MMS is proving that many of the degenerative diseases like diabetes, cardiovascular, cancer, etc have a common item of fugal, bacterial, or viral that exploits the defenses. Once the pathogen is killed and inflammation subsides, then natural healing can occur.
By way of introduction aside from the strict measurements outlined by Jim, let me suggest something I most often do which works very well. Make yourself a container of low sugar Limeade or Lemonade (I prefer Limeade for better taste) with no added Vit-C (most commercial products do contain very small amounts but most not enough to negate MMS) as Vit-C negates the MMS. Pour a small glass, maybe 4oz and place 2 drops MMS into the beverage and wait 5 minutes for the conversion to Chlorine Dioxide (ClO2). Drink this and sit down while the pathogens die. I have reached a 6 drop dose range in a 6oz glass of cooled Limeade that is very effective in my case and sometimes up to 8 drops but get a little sick to my stomach, once a day. Yes, you will taste the chlorine and it is a little uncomfortable and maybe adding a little more natural sugar will help with the Lemon or Limeade.
Jim & company have developed many different and effective protocols of MMS but I thought this little method I do is a good introduction.
Thanks Timh, MMS is recommended by Mel of Morgellons site as a remedy but used in a slightly manner from Mr Humble's method.
Question about mms:timH – the drops of mms you use with lemonade is it activated, or not activated.
J: I use 28% liquid Sodium Chlorite drops which converts to Chlorine Dioxide in the Limeade or Lemonade in about 5 minutes.
Side effect reported
I breathed in MMS fumes stronger than recommended. Now my congestion has moved to top of the lung and I have a chronic cough. What should I do?
E: Try the herb Mullein Leaf and the supplement Glucosamine, for starters (which will hopefully resolve the problem, let us know).
HI U ESTELLA, , , , , , , , , , have never made ClO2 via MMS method, but made it by the tons using the R-2 process for 40 years in the paper industry. We breathed it when our bleaching residuals got out of hand or we had a leak or a generator controlled explosion. When it got bad, we had to don gas masks because it can give you pneumonia or just flat out kill you.
Myself, I would not breath the gas. I would take it orally as most folks do. We had a tonic that we took to counteract but I've slept since then, so I can't help you.
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Hello Estella;
On the MMS "burn"…
I'll give you my idea…maybe the MMS burned the lung and from that open wound you got an infection. Just my wild guess!!!!
If me, I'd get a steam inhaler and use colloidal silver to try and kill the infection … IF that is what is going on. I'd use the inhaler twice a day for three days and judge if I could tell a positive effect. If so, I keep up for a full week.
Recently my mom had Shingles and was very worried as her aunt had suffered unbearable nerve pain for many days. She used 6 drops doses of MMS three times a day and the condition gradually improved with each dose. By the third day, it was gone.
I am a user of mms.
I have used it in a spray bottle for toenail fungus and it works.
I am presently taking mms2, step 2 for throat cancer due to asbestos and it has taken away my perpetual sore throat for now but not sure its gone. I was short of breath but that has gone away. I have ordered the online cancer test to verify the cancer and continuing mms1 and mms2.
When I first started the treatment I first ordered the book. Its stated in the book that some people are cured of diabetes in the three week suggested treatment. Three weeks is kind of a short span of time to cure something that has been in your system for a long period time. I have diabetes and it is improving, my Blood Sugar readings are where they should be now. This protocol affects your pancreas and corrects your underlying diabetes problem.
MMS is the wonder treatment for all ailments BUT you must use the prescribed protocols and go slow it is not an instant cure.
My dad got a bad tooth ache due to infection and he took 6 drops of activated MMS and tooth ache was gone on the next day. Note that he kept solution quite a while in his mouth before swallowing it.
My mum's sore throat vanished within 24 hours after gargling 8 drops of activated MMS solution with DMSO added to it.
The best for the end.
I personally experienced the powerful healing properties of MMS when I suffered from chronic candidiasis infection. It was a nightmare.
I was very weak, headache, had oral thrush and passing a lot of gas, sinusitis.
I followed Jim Humble instruction, I took 3 drops of MMS every hour for 8 hours a day, for 1 week. I must admit that the taste was horrible, couldn't bear it, but I continued. I also had diarrhea when taking MMS whereby I could go the toilet 2 times in a day.
Then the 2nd week, I took 4 drops of MMS every hour for 8 hours a day. Again I had severe diarrhea, passing out even more gas, stomach upset. I believe that fungus was now under attack by MMS as my body was detoxifying.
3rd week, I took 5 drops of MMS every hour for 8 hours a day. I was happy in the morning when I examine my tongue, oral thrush gone, but still there was some swelling on side of my tongue. No more headache and I regained energy. But still I had to deal with the diarrhea which was extremely loose. My sinusitis associated to the infection, seemed to be unaffected, I had that blocked nostril when lying down to sleep at night.
4th week, I took 6 drops of MMS every hour for 8 hours a day. No more oral thrush, swelling on side of my tongue was still there, feeling more energetic, diarrhea was less frequent, was passing little gas by now, sinusitis remained unaffected.
5th week, I took 7 drops of MMS every hour for 8 hours a day. No more oral thrush, swelling on side of my tongue decreased significantly but was still there, energy level was back to normal, diarrhea was quite rare, my digestive tract was almost normal, was passing very little gas, sinusitis remained unaffected.
6th week, I couldn't keep on with MMS as I felt that my body was now saturated with the horrible taste. I felt like throwing up each time I took MMS. So I stopped taking it. Instead, I took organic red grape juice. 1 liter per day. Hoping to build up my immune system, after 2 weeks on organic grape juice, oral thrush vanish, energy level return back to normal, no more swelling on side of tongue, sinusitis decreased significantly, my digestive tract is back to normal, no more headache.
It looks that my blocked nostril associated with my chronic sinusitis is now disappearing. I now have a very lightly blocked nose at night when lying down.
I even gave the surplus of MMS bottles to a friend suffering from stomach cancer. I'll keep you updated on that.
Thanks Jim. God bless
I just heard about the MMS. I would be please to hve it but unable to know where to buy it. Can you please advice. Thanks for your help.
Hi friends! I will tell you my experience of MMS and general opinion. Experience : I am 68. I had lot many digestive problems, general weakness and suffering from sciatica for more than 30 years. Even if I will eat handful of light food (I am vegetarian) I used to suffer sever stomach pain and continuous burping for at least 2 – 3 hrs. I tried several medicines but no relief.
When I took only 10% concentration MMS, 10 drops( 2 drops per hour ) for two days, a real miracle happened. I had a mild diarrhea next day but all troubles vanished. I continued for a week and today is the 8th day. I am truly feeling more energetic (without any tonic or vitamin supplement ) and younger. But what is about my sciatica problem? I frequently used to take Calcium and Vit D3 pills but no use. And MMS does not contain calcium or vitamin D3. Then how I got at least 90% relief from MMS? Many many thanks to Jim Humble!
My sincere opinion: 1) I believe in Ayurveda, a great Indian science of Health. As per Ayurveda every substance (herbs, minerals, chemical compounds etc.) is either Amrut or Poison which depends upon the quantity and method you take. 2) Body requires medicines only on supportive basis and not continuously. 3) How our body reacts with any drug, nobody will ever know 100% 4) Personal experience is direct proof than any theoretical discussion.
And at the end I will say about MMS – If you are afraid, don't try it. If want to try, start with small doses than suggested. If found beneficial try it cautiously and whenever required. Observe any long term side effects. If observed any adverse effect stop it immediately. Every individual is different.
God bless you.
Shree, I so resonate with your post. My experience with MMS is very positive. As long the protocol is followed precisely as per instructions, side effects are only positive.
Of course, Ayurveda stands on its own and still needs to be discovered here. I am glad you are doing well.
Namaste, Om
My dad came down seriously ill with a viral infection overseas and was ill there after for 2 years….hospitals in Spain, Uk and New Zealand hadn't a clue what he had – they kept thinking heart attacks and BP but wasn't….. only thing that got him back on his feet was MMS old protocol of higher doses…
Im going to try Autism protocol on my two aspergers kids as they have had mms on and off over the years.
Great for my sons respitory tract infections and croup too, just by gasing it in sleeping quarters overnight….
I've recently read that mms drops cure all types of disease. I believe that 100%. That's why it's probably getting degraded by the FDA and off the market. Has anybody been able to purchase this product from a legit website? If so from where? Is buying the book and the DVD the only way to know how to use it correctly?
Lovelytree — Google Jim Humble MMS1, MMS2, CDS, CD
Namaste Om
I can't get help from the people I've tried buying from. It is understandable but I sure would like to talk to someone who uses it. Until now I've only used it for colds, flu and to prevent infections when the dog scratched me. Now I'm trying it for my RA . Don't know if I'm doing it right. Need help! Phyllis
Hello Phyllis,
Where can I buy MMS in British Columbia? I'm having a hard time finding a supplier in the province. Thanks.
HI U OM, , , , , , , as mentioned many times, I worked in bleach pulp mills for 40 years using ClO2 and breathed the vapors every day. The gurus now tell me that I can't use this CLO2 and must use the crude way Jim Humble produces it . To that I say BS, as ClO2 is ClO2 and one ClO2 plant as exists in one pulp mill could cure the world of most of it's illnesses.
Of course that would mess up the medical industry big time , so that will never happen.
As in years past one sulfite pulp mill could produce enough vanilla to supply the world so that never happened either.
Is life grand or what? Games we play.
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How is MMS different from antibiotics… ie kill the bad bacteria and suppress disease … it has good short term effects — but what about long-term? Does it kill anything good together with the bad?
Just to ease my mind… starting MMS1-2 next week!!
MMS (Miracle Mineral Solution) Did NOT Work For Me. I am on week three of using MMS (protocol 1000) to treat staph infection (MRSA) and it hasn't helped even slightly.
It should work for a MRSA infection – make sure you are not taking vitamin C near when you are taking the mms – I saw it work first hand – a friend had a severe MRSA infection burrowing a hole in his stomach just above his belly button – a bug bite turned bad. It was about 5 inches in diameter and beet red and in the center a 1 -2 inch round ball of horrible pussy infection and the flesh concave into his stomach – it was a sight! His Dr.said it would take 6 months of drugs to heal followed by plastic surgery to fill in the flesh that was being eaten by the mrsa – 5 weeks later using mms daily – no infection and the flesh is filled right in and cant even tell that there was an infection there – so it does work for mrsa – also make sure it isn't left in sunlight as it will neutralize it within 10 minutes.
I knew someone who Dr. told to take baths in very diluted bleach water for mrsa. (sorry I dont know ratio) Also to use hibiclens topically which is chlorhexidine gluconate solution 4%, skin cleanser.
If you can't find solution otc at store, ask your druggist.
You may try this in addition to that great suggested supplement. Hope this helps!
Dear Juan; Staph infection is usually caused be poor bowel function but more likely by a zinc deficiency. You can check this out by having a hair sample run. Most all health problems are a result of imbalanced minerals in the body. They have helped me on more than one occasion. Hope this helps.
Sincerely Donald
Any distributor / seller of MMS in Cape Town, South Africa?
T: I would suggest using the word "Sodium Chlorite" not MMS in your search as MMS is simply a brand or logo for "Chlorine Dioxide", which is derived from adding Citric Acid. Technically you cannot buy ready made MMS as it does not keep in containers. You must make it yourself and use it right away. But there may be some venders who sell "Sodium Chlorite" as MMS liquid drops.
I didn't see anything posted about the warning from the FDA on using mms and the dangers with it. I always take their comments with a grain of salt, but this seems to be a serious matter. Thought I'd present it so that people have all of the information available.
https://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/ConsumerUpdates/ucm228052.htm
We are also being warned about the many dangers of Marijuana, even though no one has ever overdosed as a direct consequence of using. No one has ever died from MMS.
Be warned, no one has ever died as a result of using these natural remedies!
Many, many people have died as a direct result of misuse or simply as directed use, of otc or prescription pharmaceuticals.
Dear Timh, I am sorry to have to disagree with you about MMS. It is a chlorine bleach and is dangerous. You may not be aware of it but Jim Humble [ what an ironic name ] for a man who considers himself a God….Oscar
@Oscar: I have read two of Humbles e-books on MMS and have personally used it on & off for about 3 yrs. The “danger”, to be specific, is the fact that CLO2 is a very powerful almost exclusive non-discriminatory anti-pathogen. A rapid house cleaning, one might say. CLO2 like O3 treatment causes major die-off. This is why Jim has always insisted that one must begin w/ small doses and slowly work up; same goes w/ H2O2.
I have had some temporary nausea and I always decreased the dose so that doesn’t happen again. My standard dose is 8 drops. The chlorine taste & occasional nausea is enough to back one away from this substance. I also find H2O2 offensive so very rarely use it orally. Colloidal Silver and/or Lipo-C seems to be the least offensive and most effective natural antibiotics going.
As for character and alternative medicine advocates, read up on the escapades of Ed McCabe and compare to Jim Humble. These guys have endured persecutions for promoting oxygen therapy for the good of the general public w/ very little monetary gain (mostly book publications) for their contributions.
I also hate to disagree w/ you as it seems apparent we need to be helping each other out, what w/ all the problems and all, BUT I really don’t see Jim Humble along w/ a Jim Jones type sociopath deceiving & leading potential hundreds or thousands of people to their death.
Hi Timh, Well, just maybe low levels of chlorine bleach [ MMS ] can kill off said pathogens. But I would never say it is safe. Chlorine bleach kills ALL living cells including all human tissues. You have stated you have ongoing health issues including hepatitis C. My point being: If this MMS is so good at killing pathogens why do you still have hepatitis C ? And why all these other health issues ? The BHT will NOT work if you take MMS. I do see we have an entirely different take on all this. I like you but can never endorse treatments such as MMS and OZONE. In fact both OZONE and MMS will totally deactivate BHT. Both are powerful oxidizers and will render BHT useless….Oscar
@Oscar: It is well to put our thoughts to air and w/ any luck gain some ground and no feelings hurt. Wrestle it out in good faith and shake hands when the game is over, like any good athlete would do to the guys on the other team.
First, I stated that my mother contracted Hep-C and that I have very likely the Chronic Active Viral Hepatitis from Hep-B vaccine 20 yrs ago. As of lately, I am slowly making progress from severe environmental illness which has twice almost killed me. Heavy metals, parasites, and pathogens (viral/bacterial/fungal) as a result of very dysfunctional P-450 detox enzyme system plus very dysfunctional immune system. I take a foot spa every night fallowed by 2 oil pullings then 1 250mg BHT fallowed 15 min later w/ 3 caps Echinacea w/ good results. At some other time in between the BHT, I take Chanca Piedra also w/ good results. For me, it seems the BHT and Chanca work almost immediately so I never worry about anything that would negate these remedies later on. This method undoubtedly works for me, but may not for others, so not worth drawing any conclusions on.
Back to MMS. The bare facts. MMS is a lay term, pinned by Jim Humble, for Chlorine Dioxide. One must do kitchen chemistry of mixing Sodium Chlorite w/ Citric Acid to yield ClO2. Chlorine Bleach’s chemical formula is Sodium Hypochlorite or NaClO. From Bleach, drop the sodium and add an oxygen and you have a very different molecule. This extra oxygen is what makes ClO2 much more powerful a germ killer and why I refer to it as another member of the Oxygen therapy group. Jim says that one molecule of ClO2 accepts 5 electrons from pathogens (ever how many are rotating around their mother nucleus). Immediately fallowing robbing these electrons, the nucleus becomes entirely unstable and literally explodes (thus the severe die-off reactions of nausea & vomiting the FDA warns of).
If you have time, try and download Jim’s first book (I think it’s a freebie) MMS Part 1 or Breakthrough: The Miracle Mineral Solution Of The Twenty First Century Pts 1&2 4th edition.
Dear Timh, Well, I do NOT in any way pretend to be a person who knows much or anything about so called MMS. But it does seem to be the same thing I buy called chlorine bleach [ sodium hypochlorite ]. This stuff is so powerful I use it around my property to destroy large ant colonies. Hills of ants about 3 feet or more in diameter and about 1 foot high. I simply take a spade shovel and dig out a shovel full of the ant hill, then pour in 1 gallon of the chlorine bleach in and replace the dirt. That colony of ants is dead. I do not know how deep these ants dig in. Without a doubt this stuff will kill just about anything. Plants will not grow on an area so treated for about 1 year. A great, the best, way of dealing with large ant infestations. A local farmer told me about this. So it is great for killing ants. So I do NOT see how such a deadly compound can be safe to ingest. This stuff costs about one dollar a gallon at THE DOLLAR STORE….Oscar
I have used chlorine bleach on my harvester ants and they are bigger and tougher than fire ants, I am sad to report, they just turn orange and keep on.
HI U OSCAR, , , , , , , , , , first , let me say that I love you , but please don't comment on stuff that you have no clue. You can cause great harm to folks that don't know either. I am a Ch. E and spent 40 years in the paper industry bleaching pulp with both these compounds. One is Sodium or Calcium Hypo Chlorite or Clorox. The other is Chlorine Dioxide or MMS . They are two different compounds and have different chemical reaction effects on your body.
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Hi, Robert Henry —- MMS is a blessing for millions at low cost. Jim Humble appears to me as is his name. Just to think how many people are now free from malaria! I have had good response from MMS even though I do not take it daily. Especially my eyes and teeth.
It is worth researching and knowing the gov't hates Jim for what he does.
Om
It's nothing like “chlorine bleach”. Which is why they use it in elemental chlorine-FREE (ECF) “bleaching” because what you're calling “chlorine bleach”, which is sodium hypochlorite, is a bleaching AGENT and extremely nasty stuff which is why. “Bleach” isn't an element or chemical, it's an action or result of many things including sunshine, lemon juice/citric acid and hydrogen peroxide. Information about this kind of stuff is best not sought from buddies, politicians, pharmaceutical sector press releases or message boards. If you're not interested enough to explore it, why talk about it?
HI U CINDY, , , , , , , , , , please read my earlier post on this thread. Chlorine Dioxide is a far stronger oxidizer. What delayed its use in the paper industry was developing materials to handle it.
Lordy, you are dangerous. Chlorine gas will kill you in natural minute, but the world uses it to disinfect water. Knowledge is the secret. I can handle all these bleaches safely and did so for 40 years in industry. So take your own counsel and read up on the subject.
The FDA does not want you using MMS (ClO2) because it is too effective and too cheap. You messin with their income.
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if the FDA is saying it is bad than you KNOW it must be highly effective and beneficial.
MMS is not chlorine in any form.
If you don't want to use it then don't but misleading the readers here with false infomation is not helping us.
Maybe you ought to read the book or go go to jim humble's website and read.
I would like to add that a Mr Friedman claims that he cured morgellons by using MMS as well as supplements and dietary measures.
Hi does anyone have any idea how using MMS would react or not with the HCG diet which I will be starting shortly? Does anyone have any experience with that. It seems to me that the incredible rate at which fat is lost in this diet would put a strain on the liver. I want to support the liver by neutralizing toxins and helping the liver cope with this task.
Thanks, Mary
HI U GOD FEARING FOLKS DOIN, , , , , , , ,
For about 30 years of my 40 years in the paper industry I enhaled ClO2 which is a solution used to bleach pulp to 90 brightness. For you old dogs from the 40's the brightest paper was less than 80. Newsprint is in the mid 70's because Hypo was the best bleach we had in those days.
ClO2 is the latest rage in killing pathogens. You know it as MMS. My question to you wormy folks. Was this good for me or bad? I now think it was good. This gas can kill you just as Chlorine can. Is life interesting or what?
=======OLE ROBERT HENRY======
If u are trying to help yourself, make your body alkaline not acidic, I am a brain cancer survivor of 38 years and going strong.
Dr Eric Berg explodes the alkaline myth, he says most people are too alkaline ( look up alkalosis symptoms to see) and that taking apple cider vinegar does NOT make you alkaline, it makes you acid which some people need.
I want to buy MMS … my supplier passed away and I am in desperate need. Where can I get a supply?
sincerely, Nancy
Try searching Amazon, Ebay, and Shopwiki for “MMS” or “Sodium Chlorite”. You can also use MMS2 (Calcium Hypochlorite). Local distributers would be healthfood stores or Pool supply stores.
I buy mine from buymms.biz. They are excellent. They ship all over and it is fast.
Hi, I was reading through the posts, did u ever find out where to buy the msm from?
I'm just starting.. Is MMS good for atrial fibrillation, cholesterol and kidney function Level 1?
Hi, do you know a source (here in Thailand) to buy solid Sodium Chlorite? Thank you very much!
Hi, Bangkok and Chiangmai have chemical shops , often near big hospitals.Sodium chlorite sometimes they have to order for you.1100 Baht 1 KG.H202,1050 Baht 30 Liters.Borax, vit C and all, they have it. Kind regards.
Hi,
We built a health resort near Phi Mai and want give free MMS to the local people. Is there in Nakhon Ratschasima a pharmacy they can order for us? Thanks in advance…
Best regards Ladda and Reinhold
Mobile: 086-1507293
Greetings;
I am reading through the posts on MMS here and I am getting a little scared by the content. At least 2 years ago, Jim, Andreas Kalcher (a PhD researcher) and Kerri Rivera got together and compared notes on MMS use. As a result, the dosage recommendations for MMS have SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGED.
NO ONE should be taking 6-15 drops at a time, save for the case of progressing infectious disease, like malaria or anthrax. Even Jim is saying this now, and he pioneered the stuff!
The typical adult, around a weight of 100-150 pounds, should work their way up to a TOTAL of 24 drops/day, given in 8 separate doses, every two hours. (3 drops of activated MMS/dose). If you weigh more or are very sick, keep adding one drop a day until you hit that spot where you start to herx out. Back down one drop for a few days and then push on in a similar pattern.
Each dose should be comprised of an equal number of MMS drops and either 50% citric acid solution or 4-5% HCL solution. This should NEVER be consumed without first being diluted in water (at least one ounce).
Unless you are facing looming death by infectious disease, health crisis or invasive cancer, do NOT go straight to the 24 drops MMS/day (or more). You will herx your guts out, literally. Plus, you will experience crushing headaches, dizziness and a whole host of parasitic die-off symptoms. You will probably also end up covered in a rash if you ever experienced one as a child because those viruses are going to hurt just as much going out as they did coming in. (Did you have chicken pox as a kid? Get ready for a few spots again if you ramp up too fast! )
Ideally, what they are saying to do is to go get an 8-ounce, GLASS baby bottle (as MMS will degrade plastic, and who needs to eat that?). In a separate shot glass, add one drop of MMS and one drop of EITHER 50% citric acid solution or 4-5% HCL. Wait exactly 20 seconds and then mix this into the 8 ounces of water in the baby bottle. (You don't have to put the nipple on, folks. Its the travel cap that keeps the MMS gas from escaping! ) Then, each hour, drink one ounce from the bottle, for a total of eight doses/day. Then, each day, add one more drop of ACTIVATED MMS to the bottle each day. (Each MMS drop requires a corresponding drop of activator. If you are using cider vinegar or lemon juice, then you need to use 5 drops of these activators to each drop of MMS.)
You keep adding drops until you max out at 24 drops MMS/day, if you weigh under 150 pounds and are not terminally ill.
To maximize the health benefits, you MUST also do a parasite cleanse. You can either follow Hilda Clark's or you can go a bit modern with Dr. Andreas Kalcker's protocol. (You will be truly disgusted by what comes out of your posterior, in either case.)
Parasitology is increasingly showing that our modern diet and lack of use of old-time remedies like castor oil have left us wide open for worm infestation. When worms crap in our intestines, pardon the language, they expel harmful toxins, as well as chemicals which mimic amphetamines, which cause anxiety, depression, ADD/ADHD, cloudy thinking, and countless other symptoms, depending upon your unique physiology.
Oh, and those SSRIs you are taking? They were DESIGNED BY PHARMACUETICAL COMPANIES TO FEED THE WORMS THEY KNOW YOU HAVE FROM YOUR MODERN DIET! (Follow the money, folks. ) They get HUGE from the SSRIs and the supplements you are taking, especially B12 and iron. (They need both to grow. ) Once you start taking SSRIs for anxiety caused by parasites, you are just about hooked for life, which is exactly what the pharma companies want for their shareholders.
Carolyn from Milford,
Thanks for your excellent post. It was badly needed as people are using the outdated protocols. Are you on the Genesis 2 forum? Have you tried CDS?
Mary
Have you learned anymore about Parasites and Medications since this post? Thanks!
This is my 5th day on mms.
If I'm taking it every hour for 8 hours, when can I eat? I wind up snacking in between, I start feeling so hungry…So far I've only managed to get 5 doses in before I start feeling really sleepy and tired.
Also, I've been keeping my mms and citric acid bottles in the fridge, is that right?
Thanks in advance, Charlie
I thought mms took the place of herbal wormers
Thanks for an excellent post.
I can personally say mms is a miracle, I contracted hiv stupidly, in desperation from day 1 I took mms for a month 3 drops an hour for 8 hours. I only took it for the 1 month. 3 years later my blood is still normal, the tests still say hiv but the results are normal. Thank you Jim Humble.
That's cause you will always have antibodies. Which is a good thing. So when you get tested, test the viral load. Not the standards antibodies test. Cause you want the antibodies, and those stay forever. But the virus can be gone.
with HIV take 10 Drops per Hour
me the doctor Said After 14 days of mms Virus gone 95 % I continued my Therapie 30 More days and the Hospital whrotte clearly latest hiv Test negativ
it took me less than 2 months
take much More Drops Not like Kids
And you have the result
I had a terrible scalp condition where my scalp would flake and peel. It had a horrible smell. I went to several dermatologist none of the medication worked. I researched MMS and let me tell you I would pour the mixed solution on my scalp and let it set before shampooing my hair. I have not had any scalp issues. My hair smells great now. Keep with it. I used it three times before I noticed a huge change.
Hi Shelly from Baltimore. How much and how apart did you apply it?
I feel urged to make a statement regarding MMS. On research, I would like to withdraw any mention of it being safe and useful. As in the case of parvo, has been done with apparently no ill effects and resulting recovery. I would rather research further afield.
Most people have their resources drained by any medical field and it is imperative to keep cool and not succumb to new medications without being fully aware what one may have to deal with. The bottom line is there are remedies that beneficial and have been proven for centuries. For each sickness there is a remedy aside from chemical substances.
Ordinary people cannot afford a few thousands or for that matter $300 per month to medicate themselves. Common sense indicates that where there is a lucrative market with health, empower yourself and do not fall into the hands of those that profit from your illness. This is also meant to be a general statement as I do not wish to be responsible for any untoward ill effects by taking new products that have a big question mark. Hope this will be of help. Om
Hi; I do so agree with you but here is my story. Last year I had some awful symptoms and hadn’t been to a doctor in years.. So sorry I went but when I did they found my blood pressure very high.. At one point I was told to go to the ER.. I didn’t and they scared me and so I took the meds.. But I didn’t know what they were and I had never taken a pill in my life and I am 59 years old.. Plus I forgot about natural cures so I took the meds because the doctors scared me.. Later on I found this site and other alternative treatments but since the doc gave me beta blockers and they won’t help me wean off I unfortunately have to wean myself off.. Someone on this site told me how to do it but again unfortunately I need more meds to cut in half to do that but am working on that.. I am going to make the doctors think they know what they are doing but we know they dont.. Live and Learn…
Om, I love reading your posts but this one I do have to comment on. Have you really tried MMS? It has really done amazing things for my health and very cheap. As well as getting rid of my food allergies (sensitivities really) after spending so much at a naturopath and getting No results!!!
I was not out to get rid of allergies but to kill pathogens in my intestinal tract. And to kill a dog mange I caught from my dog. Has helped so much with both. I even use it in an enema bag. It is very safe!!! I take my anti oxidants in the am and the MMS oxidant at night.
I use it to treat my dog she has way more energy when I give her only one activated drop with 2 tsp of water!!
I have some here in the kitchen for vegetables. It really gets the bugs off of them!
I think you would be thrilled with its applications.
Respectfully, Mary
Hi Mary,
Can you tell me where I can get MMS. I had a supplier and now they're gone. Thanks.
I would hope that you will post the warning about MMS which keeps popping up in posts as recommended for consumer use… See the following link.
https://www.fda.gov/Safety/MedWatch/SafetyInformation…
I really don’t enjoy being a big natural medicine truther here, BUT MMS is about as harmful or toxic as, say Cannabis. There is proly no bigger double standard as the labeling and jurisprudence of Alcoholic beverages in comparison to Cannabis. Money and political power simply throws the facts and truth right out the window (hypocrisy).
Thank G, time and the “safety factor”, is finally gaining public approval of the wonderful hemp plant.
MMS as converted to Chlorine Dioxide and consumed at recommended doses, IS NOT recognized by the body as “foreign”, therefore Jim Humble labels, and promotes it as a natural mineral. I have used MMS on-and-off for over a yr and have no side effects to report other than some stomach discomfort. Surprisingly it was only about two weeks ago that I first did my bicarb/sea salt buffer, then MolyB/Niacinimide (aldehyde remover) PRIOR to a 10 drop dose. The effects began within an hr and continued for about 12; I experienced the most rapid recover to health, in those few hrs, than I have in almost a decade and with no bad side effects (I am now a beleiver).
The world has always been ruled by Money, and there is always the esoteric knowledge of great philosophers, saints, scientist, etc. Jim is a modern day philanthropist of a high order. He has sacrificed his life to the cause of helping people recover from otherwise terminal illnesses. After having read both his books Miracle Mineral Solution Of The 21’st Century, it is obvious that the title is not a false advertisement. Jim has started a church (Genesis 2 Church Of Health And Healing) for the betterment of humanity. He has a personal video on YouTube (sorry no link) of himself reciting one of his poems. It is a rare thing in the modern world to see such a universal character as scientist AND artist. The poem is truly visionary. Jim might be criticized as a “new ager” by the conservatives but he really escapes that label as he incorporates such objectivism, pragmatism, and realism into his thinking.
Many personal testimonies as well as affidavits are currently being compiled as legal documents to the effects of MMS on the human body.
In closing, from personal experience and from others, MMS exist in nature in somewhat the same category as Ozone or O3 as the most powerful germ and pollution killer on the planet. And for a “planet in peril” these two substances are indeed chemical “saviors”. And, like the Jesus Christ of Nazareth, will face opposition and persecution.
You really still trust the FDA????? if someone want real facts about MMS please go to the page of Jim humble
I read your post, I am new here, what is the bicarb/sea salt buffer, then MolyB/Niacinamide?
What should I do; I want to start on MMS CD and I'll appreciate your input
The NIH has an extensive article on mms through ncbi. Even they say it’s safe in the smallest doses.
Dear Ted, I love you and appreciate all the work you do for us out here. my query is: I would love to try MMS, but I know I can’t because I have hashimoto’s. I pray, maybe you stabilize it with iodine or something, as after 20 yrs of being told I’m depressed (insomnia and crying) I finally got a diagnosis (from a blood test) of two types of lyme disease and an active epstein barr virus. I knew I had osteoporosis, now I have cataracts and kidney stones. I had a bad case of the flu this year and a recurring sinus infection. the doctor has me on so many pills; probiotics, antibiotics, anti viral, anti fungus, vitamins, but things seem to be spiralling out of control. Bad brain fog and panic at times. I get sick sitting in a drafty room. I have brown age spots for many years now, lately, many more, especially if I’m in the sun. I’m only 58 (live in new england). I had to go on disability. with love from the heart. any advice? would like to live again. Sincerely, Kathleen
Hi Kathleen, Study THC oil on the net & medical marijuana, plenty of sites on the net.
Hi Kathleen from Southwick. I recomend you e-mail to Jim Humble’s website and ask for a specific protocol for your case. They seem to have updated information on these kind of hard issues. I hope you do get in touch with them and don’t give up. I am sure you’ll find some if not a lot of benefit with MMS or CDS or one of the variations somehow if you follow the right protocol. But ask them directly, don’t give up.. Warmly, Margarita
Why would Hashimotos be the exception?
Hello everyone. My boyfriend and I have taken scabies for about 1 or 2 months or so for scabies. At first, we both went to the doctor, and the doctor gave him neum oil or something like that, and my doctor gave me permithin. The cream didn’t help me for the first time I applied it on, so I had a second dose all over my body, it helped more than the 1st time, but not enough. The perscribition that my boyfriend’s doctor gave him, which was the neam oil didn’t help him that much either.
So my intillgent boyfriend did some research, and found out about MMS. He read the positive and negative sides of MMS. Of how MMS could make you feel dizzy, make you vomit, etc. But once my boyfriend and I bathe in it for scabies, it actually helped us a lot more than what the doctor gave us. Yes, it’ll show more dots on you once you bathe for 30 mins, but those are only the dots that were hidden inside your body. After my epxerience using the MMS for bath with my scabies, I was much better afterwards. After my bath, my dots disappered after 2 to 3 hours at the latest. Although my boyfriend had more dots than I did, so he had to put more treatment on himself with the scabies than I did. So offically now, after 3, 4, or 5 months for having scabies, we are both now offically cured from scabies, thanks to the MMS.
Please tell me how you used MMS. How did you bathe, how much you used, and so on. Did you drink it? Drinking dose?
Please be very specific. I need help too.
CB
HI YOU GOOD PEOPLE DOIN, , , , , , , , ,
Are you aware that ClO2 is used in the paper induatry as a bleaching agent and made by the thousands of gallons at each mill? Some of you may reconize it as MMS. If you had this compound available to you……. How would you use it? Our gov shut down using Chlorine but Chlorine Dioxide is good. Notice that you can’t use Chlorine to bleach pulp any more because it causes cancer , but it’s good to go in your drinking water. If you want to figure out all this then bring up the novel Synagogue of Satan on the net. I raise this question because I can get the CLO2 but don’t know how to use it for my health. I used it for 40 years in the bleaching of pulp. Without it you would be talking 70 brightness paper instead of 88. For you novices, that newsprint vs letter paper. Tell me how to use this straight ClO2. And I’ll dance at you next wedding.
====ROBERT HENRY ======
R.H., This may be a little off the Jim Humble recommendation, but this is a method I have used several times w/ good results. Make up a batch of Lemonade w/ limited sugar and limited Vit-C (no added C if possible). Make it kinda on the strong side. Simply add 4 drops Sodium Chlorite to a 4oz lemonade, wait 8 min then drink. You will smell and taste the Chlorine, but it’s really not too bad at this low dose.
A 4 drop dose 2x daily is a good start, then slowly increase. I am rather steady @ 8drops (without nausea). I have lacked any kind of daily commitment w/ MMS, but I am convinced that it is all it’s hyped up to be. It’s a much more powerful oxidizer than H2O2, and the Chlorine atom that houses the O is something special. I always feel better and energized fallowing an 8 drop dose.
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Not going to rain on Jim Hubbles parade because he found a way to get around our government's control of compounds that can keep you healthy. That compound is Chlorine Dioxide. When I started school in the 40's we had tablets which had a paper brightness of about 70. Now students write on paper in the 90's. Why is that? Well back in Paw Paw's day the paper industry had 3 chemicals to bleach pulp with. That was Chlorine , Sodium Hydroxide and Hypochlorite. That was it. In the early 50's the paper industry came up with Chlorine Dioxide and now folks would not accept less.
Let me draw this out a little . Before the Sulfate Process to dissolve lignin and make paper there was the sulfite process. It was an acid process and one paper mill could produce enough vanilla to supply the world. It never did because it would destroy all the folks making vanilla. One pulp mill today could make enough Chlorine Dioxide to supply the world and solve most of the world's health problems. Why is this not done? First, Big Pharma will not allow this to happen and neither will the AMA. Second behind Energy, is health in our economics. You cure health problems and you destroy our economy. That will not be allowed. Hey, Chlorine Dioxide would also be the end of supplements. Now you are between a rock and a hard place. You have just killed medicine and now you kill Earth Clinic. Yep it's that critical. But never fear, this will never be done. We will always need EC. Everyone looks at the little picture, this is the big picture.
Understand that this is radical, but hope it makes you think. Like I told my buddy Mike 62 in Denver. I am smart, but not so delightful.
=========OLE ROBERT HENRY ==============
We would still need supplements. Our soils are mineral deficient from harvesting and not replacing 60 minerals, but also from Round Up use, which is additionally killing our guts. Fortunately, Kerri Rivera and Stephanie Seneff were discussing the possibility that chlorine dioxide can destroy Round Up in our bodies. Wouldn’t it be great if it could kill Round Up in the soil?
I develop life threatening infections due to problems with my sinuses, bad teeth, and bone loss in the upper structure of my mouth. If I do not get antibiotics soon upon getting one of these sinus infections, I get so ill I cannot get out of bed. They have even caused me to slip into a coma 2x. I never get better only worse without them, so getting the antibiotics becomes a battle for my life.
I was warned this would happen unless I was able to get a certain operation I never could afford, to rebuild the bone in my mouth and patch up the skin that had deteriorated letting in contaminants.
Ignorant doctors and hospitals would sometimes charge me outrageous fees or hospital bills just to tell me they don’t like to give out antibiotics because people are becoming immune to them despite I have years and years of records with this problem, and often I would be forced to leave without the help I desperately needed. I would have to incur more bills until I found a doctor willing to prescribe them to me to save my life.
I was really too ill to get out of bed much less go through all that drama and expense because of such ignorance and ridiculous attitudes. I already had a multiply handicapped son that relies on me solely for his care, so without me he would have to go into some kind of home at the government’s expense, as if things were not bad enough for us without any other help or family.
Then one year I applied for good old MEDICAID to try to get some medical help with my problem, something I hoped would possibly solve the problem. Medicaid sent me to a clinic where I was treated like a drug addict.
I have never been on any illegal drugs in my life, I am a straight laced Christian who can’t afford to go out much less leave my son alone and go enjoy myself on drugs. I never saw a doctor there, but some sort of nurse who sent me to another clinic in a hospital to see an ear nose and throat specialist.
I went to that appointment where I was led to a room and seated in s chair that reminded me of a dental chair. A doctor came in who could not really speak English to any understandable degree. He said something I did not understand and left for about 20 minutes. When he came back he opened my mouth and sprayed something down my throat.
Within minutes my mouth and throat became numb, he left again, and I could not breathe! I began to struggle to try to scream for help. By the time someone found me I was unconscious. After that, I began to have serious panic attacks in my life any time I would get stressed out or began to feel like I had any sinus problem blocking my airway or stuffed up. I never had panic attacks in my life until after that day!
So I began to go online and look for something else I could use. I found MMS. I have been taking it now to solve my problem for years now. I take 6 drops of MMS with 30 drops of activator 2 times a day for 5 to 7 days upon developing these infections or getting ill now.
MMS has saved my life so many times now not to mention the thousands in doctor and hospital bills. It takes about 5 days to get rid of one of my sinus infections with MMS. I take it in a tiny glass with very little water in one gulp and afterwards a chase of one mouthful of some juice to kill that after taste. The key to not getting nauseated is to never take it on an empty stomach.
Also, getting nauseated from MMS only happens only when I am ill. If I take MMS when I am not ill. I do not get nauseated. Folks, if you are ill, do not take MMS until after you have eaten something or you will most likely either become nauseated or throw up.
Because I dislike the taste so much of MMS, I only take it either when I get sick or there might be something going around I do not want to get. Taking MMS despite its awful taste is so much better than what the so called Medical Professionals put me through to fight for my life!
This is my story for “MMS Cures”! Hope my years of experience with MMS helps someone else.
Thanks for your post on EC. Please tell me what the abreviation “MMS” stands for. – Larry
Hello, if you can't handle the taste of MMS, get some gel capsules from a health shop. Put the drops in2 them… Cheap and excellent
Ever tried calcium citrate and magnesium, and vitamin D (10,000 ius anything less is ineffective) and vitamin K2 45 mg ( not mcg, the studies showed 45 mg effective but the supplement companies cheat thinking we can’t read and put out a puny 45 mcg).
I’m not saying stop the mms. I’m saying you need some serious nutritional support. Look up Joel Wallach Dead Doctors Don’t Lie videos, and his Somebody Needs to Go to Jail. And his Black Gene Lies video too. And look up the Wallach wisdom page, it is transcripts of excerpts from his lectures. Very important information on calcium in there.
My wife and I started MMS thre months ago. We are both healthy, run, lift, eat good, organic foods, ect. To avoid nausea, and the other unpleasent reactions, start like this: One half drop mms, one half drop 50% citric acid( one drop each, just half the mixture ), mix, wait 20 seconds. We like Knudesons black cherry, add to MMS( about three tblspns. ), add water to make 1/3 cup and down the hatch! Each day increase by 1/2 drop till on three drops an hour, eight hours a day. You can make a jug of eight hour MMS for all day as follows. 24drops MMS, 24 drops 50% citric acid. Mix, let stand twenty seconds. Add 1/3 cup of juice, fill the rest with filtered/purified water. Drink 1/2 cup every hour till gone. In two weeks, athletes foot gone, rosatia gone, nails are perfect, sleep better, mind is way clear and sharp. Wake up with more energy, peri-anal cyst is gone, teeth are hard and white, allergies ( my wife has had seasonal allergy attacks for 30 years ) gone in three days of protocol 1000, recover from hard training way fast, on and on. We now do maintainance dose of three drops twice a day. Every one around us has gotten sick. Not us. This stuff is great, and it works!!!!!!!!!!!
I just wanted to mention that everyone in our household uses MMS1 and MMS2. That includes our 5 children. They take it without any trouble, and since we started last summer not one person in our family has been ill…. Not anything in the slightest! Not a single cold.. Nothing. I also wanted to mention that I took both MMS1 and MMS2 all during my last pregnancy… And felt awesome. We had a very healthy baby boy and the midwives were amazed at how alert and vibrant he was. He’s been perfectly healthy ever since. I encourge you to look into these to substances, they really are miracle secrets! Mama
Hi! I have a question for mama, I have lupus, with kidney problems and I have been taking mms for 4 months already, and is working great, and now I want to get pregnant but I am a little skeptical about using mms in my pregnancy, since I have read that is not very safe, and since you mention that you used it, can you please tell me what was the dosage that you used and what others supplements did you also used, and if there is something I need to do or just give me some feed back on that matter, I will be very thankful, because is going to help me a bunch… You can contact me on my e-mail cocol75041(at)yahoo. com please respond to me with any others suggestions thanks…
Obviously Mama from Ontario did a great job with mms in pregnancy, but additionally I would ask you to go to http://www.westonaprice.org and look up the pregnancy protocol, the healthiest people all over the world ate a very high cholesterol,saturated animal fats diet to help their fertility and prepare their bodies for a healthy baby. Also look up Nutrition and Physical Degeneration by Weston Price,free PDF.
Hi there,
I'm wanting some info regarding dose amounts & frequencies while pregnant too. I've got a number of low-level diseases & one serious-but-not-currently-injurious hereditary kidney disease. I'm currently taking up to 5 drops up to 6 times a day, but my partner wants me to progress up to 15 drops hourly. I'm 10 weeks pregnant.
I'm amazed at how little there is on the internet re: pregnant women's experiences with mms! Any info you could give me would be great. Thanks!
Through research on H202, I came across Miracle Mineral Supplement which seems to have the same effect as H202 except it is chlorine dioxide. I didn’t see any info on this site, which is my go-to for all things au naturale. Has anyone had any experience with this?
I am the biggest MMS fan alive, I always make sure my friends know about it, as such, I can guarantee that citric acid worsens side effect and taste of MMS. My advice is; try it with the juice of an organic lemon instead and see it for yourself, it makes the MMS experience much more beneficial as reduces sickness and taste.
Activating MMS with citric acid or lime juice should result in the same chemical formula that does the job. I am not able to understand why lime juice would have less side effects than citric acid… The only thing I can think of is if it is not activating the MMS properly and therefore, less effective, leading to reduced side effects?
I do 8 drops of MMS a day and my wife does 6 and my sis does 8 and my friend does 10.
When you do that you sleep well and do not get sick.
If you are working out some bad stuff and it reacts, back off a drop or two until things are working.
When I had the flu I had about 3 days of diaria (sp) but only 1 or 2 days of flu symptoms and not flu shots. Keep a cough too long until I remembered vicks vapor rub on your feet and sleep with your socks on….
Get a grip this stuff works (for me :))
Dear Ted,
I am just going to pray that somehow that this desperate letter has a chance to cross your way. I have been desperately seeking info on the caustic efects of mixing a stabilized oxygen supplement consisting of sodium chloride, ozone, traceminerals, and distilled water with a pasturized, fortified from concentrate orange juice (vit d and calcium too. ) No one in the world can answer this question. However it is spoken of even on my supplement.
When it comes to MMS, everyone knows not to mix it with orange juice. Yet no one will say why? If I am starting with a ultra-concentrated stabilized oxygen otc solution consisting only of the things listed above- then what possible reactions could be occuring when 1 1/2 droppers full get mixed with the orange juice? I am very confused. It was accidental that it was mixed with o.j. But either way it has been consumed and 6 days have passed, I cannot sleep for I remain unanswered.
My son is here, but he is not anyone that I recognize. Some type of mineral reaction must have occured. Mentally he is like a bomb expert working with absolute knowledge. Physically he is very weak and tired. His face not only lost all of its color and animation, but his pupils have remained huge no matter the time of day. 6 days solid. I am wondering about alcohol poisonings ethyl, methyl, is that something you can help me figure out? I thought maybe hypoglecemic, but blood suga is fine. Bp is fine too. I looked up herx.. That don't seem fit eithr. Maybe you know something im mising. Pls help. I miss my son.
thank you.
How old is your son? The symptoms you discussed are consistant with some types of drug use. Such as speed or cocaine. There is no reason to not at least ask him about this. A lot of people, especially young people like to take such drugs. And what is MMS?
Of course I have no way of knowing if he is taking such drugs. It is worth looking into if he is a teenager or young adult. And if he is freaking out is not going to help him or you. Many parents have to deal with this situation. It is all too common and can be resolved.
Heck, when I was growing up it seemed to me most of my friends were playing around with such drugs. Most of them got over it on their own after a few years….Oscar
The orange jucie vitimin C nutrilizes the MMS. Use a small amout of apple juice that has no significant C. The 100% Vitimin C is just a preservative for juices. Do not use that.
I’m all for natural cures, but I don’t think MMS should be freely consumed. I think it can be extremely dangerous. I have tried it a few times. It caused severe diarrhea at the very least, no matter how careful I was with the dosage increase. In fact, MMS makes my pupils dilate like you mentioned, and my skin very greasy (like the other poster said, feels like you are on meth/speed during this detox stage, which I have also used in my college years so I can relate). Is your son sleeping and eating normally? That would be your first clue about amphetamine use. I relate it to the initial detox stages I have experienced them before as a result of drastic detox fasts (on water only, and also using the Master Cleanse/ lemon diet, from 10 to 20 days).
Here is my two cents after a lot of experimentation: you can’t cut corners with your health. If it took you years to get toxic, it will take years to detox. There is no magic bullet. Some things (such as MMS and fasts) CAN help you speed up things for sure, but be careful: you need to be assisted by someone who is qualified to help you because your body can only take so much herx. We really need to move away from this habit of thinking we can solve all our our health problems with an overnight miracle solution, be it MMS, antibiotics, cortisone, or whatever. These compounds are not freely available in nature for a reason. They don’t grow on trees in amounts we can easily consume, and our genetic code developed over thousands of year without them. They are not nutrients, we don’t need them, it’s a marketing plot to benefit the powers that be.
Also, stop thinking in terms of viruses and bacteria. I see a lot of posts where people are fighting them like they are the ultimate enemy. They are not. We need a healthy balance of bacteria in us to handle digestion and additional vitamin production in our guts. Most people interpret detox symptoms as “I got a bug”. It’s not true. These things exist in nature in a symbiotic relationship to us. They are not the enemy. If they are out of control is because your immune system is weak What I found out in my 4 years of moving away from the existing disaster that is our current medical sciences is that our bodies are perfect and will fight all diseases so long the immune system is in a position to do so. We all get “cancer” every day for example, but our defenses will rid of the problem if everything is up to speed. All chronic diseases are a result of a mix of toxicity plus mal-nutrition. Remove toxicity and improve nutrition and your problems will go away one by one.
My suggestion: no matter what you have, up your nutrition by eating raw, unprocessed, possibly organic, whole foods. Spare your blood filter (liver) by avoiding alcohol, artificial chemicals of any kind, excessive oil/fats, etc. Get rid of everything that is refined, canned, and packaged. Avoid sugar like the plague (think about, in nature we only find sugar in fruits, pretty much). Avoid animal products. When was the last time you jumped on a cow carcass to feed yourself? There is a reason meat is kept in the fridge or consumed with preserving chemicals, it’s because it’s rotting! Eat lots of uncooked leafy greens. Go for fiber with legumes, brown rice and beans to keep things moving with the benefit of extra nutrients. Drink LOTS of water (research the watercure, it cured my alcoholism of 10 years). Do not consume genetically modified foods.
Good luck! Take it as a process, it will take time and adjustment. But the end result is worth it! We are not meant to be sick, we were created in perfect health, and we need to move back to that. Don’t let anyone else tell you are defective, it’s simply not true. Question everyone and everything that is pitching you something for personal gain (ie: follow the money trail).
If MMS detox feels like you are on amphetamines this might not be due to MMS exactly but because most likely you might be infected with worms. Ascaris Lumbriocoides is one of those parasites that creates toxins like MDA, morphine and others. They do not like MMS. They empty themselves in you when you consume MMS contributing hugely to diarrhea overresponse.
Look for talks from Andreas Kalcker. He has covered MMS and parasites extensively. That would be the place to start.
If you are having a reaction like you are, it is because of the toxic level of substances in your system. You said no matter what you had Diarrhea, well that means your body was de-toxing and should have never stopped until it all stopped happening. It means it was expelling all of your toxins as fast as possible, which comes out your anal cavity, your skin, any way your body can expell it. But once it finally stops, then you you know you have finally achieved detox and you will feel the healthy feeling kick in for sure. Gerson's juice and coffee enema's do exactly the same thing and more, when you body it getting rid of toxins it comes out anyway it can, and you just supplement with Potassium and Iodine to compensate for the excess diarrhea while your body is expelling. But MMS is doing it job and it is making your body get the junk out of it. So that is the best I can tell you. We have used it for every thing, eye drops, douche for women, curing colds & flus, curing almost all pains, in teeth, brushing and breath, skin issues which go away quickly after use. Its works every time. Yet I have read every stupid thing out there saying don't use MMS……don't believe anyone…MMS works.
My husband has suffered with gout for years, to the point where he would run a fever and his ankle would swell up for months and he could hardly walk. We tried everything–meds, ACV, Vitamin C, cherry juice–nothing worked (haven’t tried the alfalfa–just saw it on this site).
Then I stumbled across the website for MMS, or Miracle Mineral Solution, and that has cured his gout. The last episode he had, he started taking it and his gout began resolving in a couple of hours and was completely gone by the next day. And not only that, but a swollen wrist that had never gone completely down from a previous attack months before went back to normal. He hasn’t had an attack in a couple of years. He eats whatever he wants, and if he should get a twinge of what he even thinks might be an attack coming on, he takes a dose of MMS and it’s gone. For those of you not familiar with MMS, you can search this site for more information and cures.
All I can say is, what a God send finding this site. I have dealt with the gout for over 6 years. Traditionally I dealt with it by perscription, Indomethacin 50mg cap. When first perscribed it felt like a small miricle and worked quite effectively. But, as time went by, the medician lost its effectiveness and I found myself taking more of the medication with each attack.
This last gout attack forced me to start looking in another direction. A week after Thanksgiving, I had noticed an attack building up so being proactive I started taking the Indomethacin only to find the medician wasnt working after 2 weeks of taking the pills 3-6 times per day. At this point my concerns of side effects started to creep into my mind and I needed to start looking for something safer. Thankfully I found this site.
My first mistake was to use a generic Apple Cider Vinegar (ACV) mixed with 1tsp of Baking Soda (BS). It somewhat worked but the pain did not subside as most posted. So after further research, I didn’t realize there were various typs of ACV. As soon as I figured this out I went to the local grocery store and got the “Organic Raw~Unfiltered Apple Cider Vinegar, with the ‘Mother’, unpasteurized” This product made all the differance. Approximately 30 min after mixing ACV with ‘Mother’ and BS, I felt the weight of the world lift off my foot.
As soon as I can afford it, I will be donating to this site. I cant thank this site enough.
I am wondering if anyone can tell me if it is ok to take mms in iced tea or in hot peppermint tea?
I had been trying to get rid of a host of intestinal parasites I picked up in India and China 3 years ago. Rife, homeopathy and a natruapath all helped a little. I took MMS, 6 drops a day for only a week and they ALL went. I had a few cancer cells in 4 places in my body, I’m now down to only 1, which is graually disappearing. I’m [at last] feeling like I have a bit more energy. I’m up to 10 drops twice a day now, and will stay there for a while. I’ve been rather depressed since the earthquake, and I feel that has improved as well. Has anyone else found MMS has helped with depression? Its wonderful, please spread the word, I know its hard to believe but it really works!!!
A magnesium deficiency is the usual cause of depression.
And vitamin D, and Omega 3 oils and niacin deficiency. No flush works fine.
Hi Everybody, I suffer depression and it has been diagnosed as bi polar. I'm currently suffering at this time and anyone who have suffered with this would know how I feel. ( seriously bad ) Can anyone help with an experience or advice? I'm currently taking 2 drops MMS, 2 activator and 6 drops of dmso every 90 minutes and just started yesterday (June 15 2016 ) Any response would be greatly appreciated. Regards Colin
Colin, someone here mentioned Nutrient Power by Walsh. Google it.
I wish I knew of that 2 months a go before my husband passed away. I would've certainly given that to him. My MMS ARRIVED TODAY. How do I know that's the one from Mr. Humble?
Does anyone know the exact amounts to make small portions of MMS? I do not mean just before you injest it. I mean how much water, how much sodium chlorite(sp) to mix together. I have checked several places, but there instructions are not clear. Merryanne in Central Florida
I wanted to post this since MMS is a subject on this site. I just want avoid people doing damage to themselves based on misguided information. This link is from a doctor that is pro-natural healing/supplementation, yet I take this page as a warning. Read and make your own decisions about MMS.
https://blog.imva.info/medicine/magical-mineral-supplement-mms-2
some ppl might be confusing MMS with MSM.
Hi, Sure hope no one is confusing MMS and MSG.
MSG is methylsulfanylmethane which is one of the best for traumatic arthritis (also helps with allergies and other things) is a substance our bodies require. It is also a great anti-inflammatory without the side effects of the NSAIDS (nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs).
MMS is short for mirace mineral supplement (proper name is sodium chlorite) and it allegedly kills just about all pathogens. If any of you have been reading up on the latest thing coming out of India (allegedly a “gene” that instantly converts all pathogens to drug resistant type. If this is so, we all know that some mad scientists have come up with a new way to reduce the world wide population which is said to be the new world order’s greatest desire. Jim Humble claims that there is no way any pathogen can become resistant to MMS. Let’s hope he is right and may I suggest that those of you who haven’t taken a few precautions, immediately do so, because I fear the NWO is a lot closer than we’d like to think.
If you haven’t already done so, get you a few gallons of 35% food grade H202, a few pounds of MMS, a supply of Lugol’s solution (15%) or SSKI *saturated solution of potassium iodide). If you find a source of potassium crystals and online source says to mix your own SSKI, fill a brown bottle to about 60% full, next add distilled water to about 90% full, put cap on and shake vigorously for at least 2 minutes. You will know if you have a saturated solution because there should be a few undissolved crystals in the bottom of your bottle. A good supply of these and you should be set to handle many of your own problems without a doctor or hospital. Also suggested is getting a good book on identifi-cation, gathering and preparing herbals that grow in your local area. You will be surprised to learn that many of the best herbals plants are con-sidered as weeds.
PS. If you can’t come up with a better way to remember whether you want MSM or MMS – my opinion is that MMS is much easier to pronounce or spell than MSM & maybe remembering to think “mommy, me sick” for MMS will tell you it is the one to use to wipe out an infection.
I think all people should read J Humble’s new edition of the MMS book (the 3rd edition). It’s on the internet somewhere as a download for free. The understanding and explainations for why it works are great. Do the research and follow the instructions (don’t improvise) or drink or eat something you shouldn’t then say it does not work or it made me sick… Because that is on you and not the product itself…. The propaganda is out there and TPTB want you under the knife or using drugs that will kill you… make the wise decisions in life.
Peace
I guess that it is easy to get sidetracked about anything. We are genetically disciplined to listen to what the good doctor is saying. However, now-a-day Doctor is just a copy of a copy of a copy of a Doctor from some 50 year old book together with a recipe for good business. If it hides the symptoms and it sells, then that is the way to go. There are countless testimonials from people all over the Globe saying how MMS helped them in many, many ways. Yes, maybe if you foolishly take 20 drops, have all kind of stomach problems and then again, take another 20 drops then I believe that something is wrong with you – not with MMS. Yes, maybe some people had bad experience because of so many different circumstances and I am sure that the Lady from Dr. Sedura’s report died and was also taking MMS.
However, it does not say and is not in any way proven that she died from MMS intake. On the other hand, if someone would collect how many people died from using regular medications and procedures that are approved by FDA, it would probably take a better part of the year and more then ten thousand pages to write them all up. However, these are “well known and approved” way to “cure” different illnesses – although I have yet to find a drug that actually cures anything.
This is my take on the article that Alicia from Orlando, FL is pointing us to.
Side effect reported
I thought it – MMS – was used in the hospitals to cure malaria? My doctor orders my hormone, I go to pick them up later. I asked my husband what one of the ingredients is in my hormones that I have never heard of? He, goes, that is antifreeze. I called the pharmacy to make with a natural substitute instead. Anyhow, MMS makes it hard for me to breathe. I'm hypersensitive, so hard to say if it is just me or a detox.
Anybody heard anything about MMS? I just met a gal last night talking about this great detox stuff??
Andrew Weil gives it a big thumbs down. I respect his wisdom and education & tend to agree. The info, here, suggests that it may be effective to rid oneself of worms… I've seen no anecdotal evidence yet of anyone saying it helped or cured more serious illnesses of cancer or hiv. Here is the link: https://www.drweil.com/drw/u/QAA400765/No-Magical-Cures.html
A friend with Lyme disease tried it with no positive results.
I was in Nigeria a week ago and I met a doctor who is quietly curing people of the HIV virus using MMS. I say "quietly" as he doesn't want his efforts to be stopped by Big Pharma and their friends.
There is no way anyone who is sincere and investigates MMS can deny that it is very effective and has saved many thousands of lives.
Does anyone have information regarding the effect of iodine on MMS? It is important to raise iodine levels using higher doses when fighting cancer. A few people have said that it can reduce the effect of MMS/chlorine dioxide.
Hi Ronald…Iodine is an anti-oxidant and MMS(Chlorine Dioxide) is a pro-oxidant. So if you combine them or take them at the same time, they will simply react with each other and cancel out each other's beneficial effects. So if you take any anti-oxidant nutrient together with MMS then the same thing will happen.
MMS only lasts for about an hour in the blood before it is quickly removed from the body so the best way to take MMS is to take it in a one to three drop dose, once an hour, eight times a day. You can take it in higher single dosages, but this may cause headaches, nausea and vomiting (similar to large dose HP). The MMS protocol is very similar to the Hydrogen Peroxide Protocol — which only last for about an hour in the body as well because it also has similar pro-oxidant action.
YEA for MMS. I had a longstanding case of epididymitis and prostatitis for almost three years, that I suspect came from a case of Chlamydia that I contracted years ago and never fully got rid of. It got to the point where I had a constant pain in my left side (where my testicles meet my leg) and my left testicle was extremely sensitive all the time.
A urologist gave me a course of doxycycline (back when I still trusted doctors) which seemed to bring the pain under control, but a month or so after I stopped the antibiotics the pain crept back and became as bad as ever. After giving up on doctors, I began to try alternative remedies, the first one being colloidal silver (a common brand sold at Vitamin Shoppe). To my great joy I immediately began to notice a decrease in pain from taking 5-7 tablespoons of colloidal silver a day. After a couple of weeks taking colloidal silver the epididymitis and prostatitis was 80-90% gone. I figured that was as cured as I was going to get, and I was happy with the lack of pain, so I stopped the silver.
After the silver I began taking MMS for other lingering health problems I had. I began with 5 drops of MMS twice a day on an empty stomach. After one day I noticed my urine was suddenly cloudy with white blood cells. This told me that my body was fighting something in my urinary tract area. At the same time, I noticed that my epididymitis/prostate pain had disappeared–and I mean 100% GONE, almost overnight. What this told me was that the MMS had basically kicked the living heck out of whatever bacteria/parasite was causing my crotch pain. Needless to say, I was thrilled.
After less than a week on MMS, when I reached 9 drops twice a day, I started to notice something else–I was passing WORMS with my bowel movements. Needless to say, I was simultaneously disgusted and happy that the MMS was killing these parasites and that they were now leaving my body. I will continue taking the MMS and increasing the drops until I feel that I am free of these disgusting parasites.
Finally, I would like to add a note to readers not trust any so called “quackwatch” or other sites calling MMS poison or a scam. I gave MMS a chance because I felt I was at the end of my rope with a laundry list of health problems that seemingly nothing would cure, and so far MMS has surpassed all expectations with no side effects except for a couple of instances of mild nausea (which I suspect was the worms being killed by the MMS). Why are there so many (dishonest) people online who don’t want to see others get well??
I'm glad to hear you are doing well. I do, however, have serious concerns about mms, that I think EC readers would as well. Especially after the FDA's latest warning. When mixed according to package directions, it becomes a potent bleaching agent with many industrial uses. Anyone considering mms, please read the FDA's warnings about the dangers of mms. They advise to stop taking immediately.
Continued good health.
Ellie
Hi Jerome–what is MMS please??–Thanks
Hi EC readers, I to was interested in MMS for Hiv/Aids, and other illnesses(prostatitis included). But after talking to 4 different friends who bought this product, and used it for a month, or more, said they all got sick from it, and MMS did nothing for there other health issues either. In fact all 4 of my friends said there T-Cells and Viral loads were worse than they were before they started this toxic drug. So I would not take it, and advise anyone to do your research as Ellie said! Google it and make your own intelligent decisions. Everyone has different opinions regarding this MMS, and what works for some might not work for others.
I have also tried 5 or more other so called Hiv/Aids treatments/supplements that did nothing to help me either. So I am about to just give up and keep taking the dreaded pills that I have loathed for the last 20 years of this disease! At least I am still alive from taking all of these pills prescribed by a doctor, 20 years later. But that does not mean I like it! And I will continue to do my research and look for a way to help myself. I eat healthy, don’t drink or do illegal drugs, and I guess this has helped me to stay alive. So just do your research before you take this toxic MMS, for any health concern! Your life is in your own hands.
MMS is Chlorine Dioxide and is one of the most powerful bleaches known. Hey, but so is Hydrogen Peroxide, Chlorine, Oxygen and Sodium or Calcium Hypochlorite. All of these were used for many years to bleach pulp. Only Chlorine Dioxide and Oxygen are used now because the others form a carcinogen with the lignin. Both Chlorine Dioxide and Chlorine will kill you deader a hammer as a gas in the right concentration. The paper industry can no longer use Sodium Hypochlorite because it has been outlawed by the FDA but you can at home because they don’t dare try to take Clorox from the house wives , just as they backed off Sweet and Low. The FDA is not about health, it’s politics. DMSO is a prime example.
I don’t do MMS, but I would after I researched it’s use. I do Hydrogen Peroxide, but only at 3% concentrations.
Spent 40 years making and working with these chemicals in the paper industry, but can’t speak for their medicinal uses. The word bleach does not scare me.
In reply to Ellietx from Dallas, Tx, Us: Ellie, thank you for your concern, but at this point I give the FDA about as much credibility about nutrition as the National Association of Circus Clowns. If I would have continued following the FDA’s and USDA’s ‘guidance’ on medicine and nutrition I’d probably be in a grave right now. Thanks to alternative medicine I have all but beaten the dozen or so maladies that no doctor was able to help me with, and which I now believe is the result of antibiotics and junk food. I have seen zero side effects thus far from MMS, and the fact that it can be used as “an industrial cleaner” means nothing to me, since the same can be said about vinegar or baking soda. But again, thanks for your concern.
HI U GOOD PEOPLE DOIN, , , , , , I write to tell you that Chlorine Dioxide is explosive. In the paper industry, we have explosion lids on the generator and on all storage tanks and even the spent tanks and bleach towers. I probably should not discuss this until I understand how MMS is made, but at a certain concentration Chlorine Dioxide gas will explode. Until I know more I will caution you to keep your solution refrigerated. In the paper industry , we kept it at 40 degrees F. It is the gas that explodes, not the solution.
I’ve also got to study the pH thing. When you add lemon juice, you are adding acid to lower the pH. There is an optimum pH for effectiveness in bleaching pulp and I would assume the same applies to your body.
Don’t get me wrong , I think Chlorine Dioxide does all folks say it does. I just have not studied it in that sense. What I have told you above is what I know from messin with it for 40 years as a bulk bleaching chemical.
My message is keep on keeping on, just keep your solution refrigerated.
Shoot , I’m like ya’ll , at 75 I wants to live to 92.
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