DISH disease, diffuse idiopathic skeletal hyperostosis, is just one condition in which the body accumulates excessive calcium deposits. Heel spurs and bone spurs in general are much more common conditions, but calcium deposits can also form in the body's soft tissues. Broadly, the accumulation of calcium deposits is called calcinosis, and it is usually the result of some trauma to the area or as an overuse injury. Eventually about 2 in 5 people will experience a calcium deposit on at least one bone or tissue.
Ironically, calcium deposits are generally the result of an insufficient supply of dietary calcium. So the pain of a bone spur or like condition is your body telling you to increase your calcium supply, preferably through food sources. The pain of a bone spur should be sufficient reason to do so, but left untreated, these conditions can additionally lead to osteoporosis, heart disease, and even cancer. Women aged 35-65 are most at risk.
Natural Cures: The first step in treatment of bones spurs is to increase your dietary calcium intake. Use of apple cider vinegar may help to dissolve the misplaced calcium deposits. Anti-inflammatory herbs and supplements can reduce the pain of calcium deposits and help prevent further damage.
02/01/2013: Chook from Toowoomba, Qld Australia: "Hi recently I went to my GP with an injury on the left side of my knee! Xrays have shown that calcium has built up on the injury site under a nerve which causes great pain even touching it gently. The nerve is constantly being irritated , now this GP is a fellow that is constantly updating all new procedures and so on also very much into natural treatments as well, if an injury such as mine needs to be treated it will be treated naturally at first the treatment for my injury is ABSOLUTELY NO DAIRY PRODUCT AT ALL UNTILL THE CALCIUM IS GONE , I have just started this treatment today, I wll keep a post of the progress, have a go"Replies
02/01/2013: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi Chook... Coming off dairy will certainly be useful for your excess calcium problem, but if you want to remove your calcium deposits fast -- then take 1000 mgs Chanca piedra capsules at mealtimes (3 times a day) or just drink the organic chanca piedra tea at least 3 times a day. Its a very easy protocol and there is no known overdose for Chanca piedra. See this link.
Chanca piedra is know as "Stone Breaker' or "Break Stone" in English because of its robust ability to dissolve and remove calcium deposits in the form of gallstones and kidney stones from the body. I have also tried CP with a person who had gout and I can assure you, from my own experience, that this also works. Amongst all its other wonderful effects, CP is a mild diuretic which inhibits and removes calcium deposits safely from the blood and removes excessive calcium deposits throughout the body efficiently and safely."
09/18/2013: Isaiah from Denver, Co replies: "Hi. I am very interested in the remedies you suggested and would very much appreciate any advice you may have concerning removing excess calcium buildup in my left knee. I severely injured my knee years ago and for have dealt with major range of motion issues. For example, I haven't been able to fully extend my leg or bend it completely. I've had an MRI done and while they haven't there hasn't been any ligament damage, they found a ton of calcification. I've been on David Wolfe's longevity Now program for a few months and am taking quite a bit of supplements including 10g of MSM daily, liquid zeolite, apple cider vinegar, etc. My recovery's been slower than what I had hoped. Any other suggestions supplementally or dietary that would dramatically speed my recovery? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much!"
09/18/2013: Mike from Denver, Colorado replies: "Isaiah: Bill recommends chanca piedra. This is one of the five super herbs recommended by my magnificient guiding light David Wolfe. Once a year or so my left knee locks up on me and I get this excruciating pain on the inside of the joint at the same spot. I go to the natural grocery store on 15th and platte and get a tube of herbal ointment for joints and one with arnica for the pain. They dissolve calcium and nourish the joint. They always cure the condition within three days."
10/03/2013: Isaiah from Denver, Co replies: "Thanks, Mike & Bill! I've just started taking Chanca Piedra tea today. I'm excited because I've been making small improvements since I've been on David Wolfe's Longevity Now program for the past few months... Slowly adding new food, herbs, supplements, minerals, etc into my daily regime while eliminating the habits that don't serve me. I will definately check out the balm remedy you've described as well. I appreciate your input."
Diffuse Idiopathic Skeletal Hyperostosis
12/18/2011: Searching from Clearwater, Fl.: "Has anyone on this site heard of D.I.S.H. Disease?
I feel like I'm turning to stone. I have bone spurs in my feet and shoulders. The entire right side of my spine is fusing into one big mass of bone in the middle of my back on the right side in the thoracic area. My arthritis doctor says there is no cure and the only thing he can do is prescribe anti-inflammatory and anti depressant cymbalta."Replies
12/18/2011: Maria from Silver Spring, Maryland replies: "DIS -- You may have a severe mineral imbalance. Log on to a site called Acucell.com and see if you can get help. In particular read the section on mineral ratios.
Best of luck."
12/19/2011: Carly from Seattle, Wa, Usa replies: "Thanks for the Acu-Cell site reference Maria - I have been there reading for over an hour now, and have bookmarked it.
The web address is acu-cell. com (with the dash! )
It is a great reference tool, and a very informative site.
02/26/2012: Sheila from Byron, Il replies: "my right knee has had two xrays done and nothing shows. I was given a cortisone shot 2 months ago and he eased the pain. I'm just about 60 years old and very active but for last 5 months, it feels like my knee cap is broken and have been going to a chiropractor trying to break the deposit on the knee and it is swollen and in pain. I'm at my wits end and need some relief"
02/27/2012: Timh from Louisville, Ky, Usa replies: "Sheila, try a compress; warm wet washcloth soaked in Epsom Salt. Magnet Therapy would also help. If you don't eat lots of green leafy veggies, you may need to supplement Vit-K, as bone metabolism is dependent on K."
05/26/2012: Swhit from La, Ca replies: "Make sure you are taking plenty of vitD3 daily. You cannot overdose on this as your body will get rid of what is needed by itself. The older you get the less your body makes naturally. All major diseases/conditions patients - like cancer, diabetes, arthritis etc. , were found to have little or no D3 in their systems. Cancer no#s soared after they scared people to stay out of the sun. You need D3 so the calcium can get to the bones/blood and without it the calcium will do nothing for you. The D3 website has most of this info."
06/18/2012: Laura from Henderson, Nevada replies: "Maria, I'd like to know if you found something to help you out, I suffer from calcium deposits which are very painful, please let me know. Laura"
06/26/2012: Tammy from Wilmington, De replies: "There is a concentrated group of ppl on Facebook with the disease (Diffuse Idiopathic Skeletal Hyperostosis). If you would like to connect with us, please feel free to stop by https://www.facebook.com/groups/16013212498/"
11/10/2013: Blnurse from Vienna, Va replies: "Hi, here is an article on oxalates and calcium deposits in the body. I'm pasting it here. Hopefully it helps you in your quest for health:
I don't know what your diet is like, so I don't know if you eat foods high in oxalates (spinach, leafy greens, nuts, rhubarb, dark chocolate, etc.), but for anyone having calcium deposits I would avoid them or see if there is a proper way to prepare them to reduce oxalate content. They contribute to kidney stones, and according to the article can also contribute to calcium deposits throughout the entire body."
[YEA] 10/31/2009: Elizabeth from Salmon Arm, Bc: "I had severe calcium deposits in my knee ten years ago. I would have to get up every few hours during the night and walk around to relieve the pain. I went to my Naturopath and he used muscle testing and informed me that my parathroid wasn't working properly. He treated me for it and prescribed a Parathroid Homeopathic drug which I took three times a day for the next ten days. The knee felt about 50 percent better. I have been always interested in Homeopathic remedies. My basic symptom was the need to walk to relieve the pain. I took a Homeopathic remedy called Rhus Tox 30c at least five times a days for about three days and the calcium deposit pain completely disappeared.
My knees occasionally become painful if I use my treadmill too much. As soon as I recognize that I feel better with movement, I start taking Rhus Tox again and my knee feels better again after a few days.I have used this remedy at least six times in the last ten years and it has always worked."Replies
08/25/2011: Andrea from Roseville, Mi, Usa replies: "Hello, i was reading your comment because i was looking up calcium deposits on the shoulder, for thats what i suffer really really bad.. i lose complete movement of my arm and not to mention trying to go to sleep at night, thats very severe as well. my shoulder hurts me so bad through out the day that i could just cry. i've been to the urgent care for this in the past and they found the deposits on my x ray. i'm at my wits end with this, i've taking motrin, naproxin, mobic, robuxin, tylenol, i've even put those stinky creams on my shoulder too, nothings helping me!! i was wondering how to find the medicine you take for this and how much and how often... i think i'm at a point where i should just get the surgery, i suffer with this pain for about 3 weeks, then it goes away but returns in like 3 or 4 months. i've been going through this for 5 yrs now.. enough is enough!! thanks so much for your help!!!"
[YEA] 06/23/2009: Paulina from Manassas, Virginia: "Magnesium Nitrate broke down the deposits in my whole body.
Two years ago, I suddenly dropped, unable to walk or crawl. I was in so much pain and luckily my husband just got home from work. He took me to the Urgent Care. The doctor was so knowledgeable (thank god), he immediately sent me down for X-Ray. He sent my husband to the first floor pharmacy and got a bottle of Magnesium Nitrate and brought it up. I drank it within 2 minutes. Then he showed me the X-Ray I brought back. There were rocks, calcium, wastes, toxins, etc... floating all over my body. My body was unable to digest all the foods and others that I consumed for 38 years. I was shocked but if I looked back - I always had tummy ache but thought it was something I ate. I drank 2 more bottles in 2 days ( 1 bottle as soon as I wake up each day). For a week, my systems was flushed down but the worst thing was it's all sand. That's how bad it was. Magnesium broke down everything and my butt was hurting so badly because it's all sand. To sum up, magnesium really help. I use magnesium once a year to flush my systems but most people do not need to use this harsh and drying agents. You can detoxify without drugs."
09/29/2009: Bear from Elmwood, Ontario, Canada replies: "Paulina, I've tried to find the magnesium you talk about. checked out a couple Health Stores to no avail. Nothing substantial comes up on a search engine. I take it the magnesium nitrate is in a liquid form. Would it go by a different name (in Canada), did you need a doctors prescription. My shoulder joints are just killing me and I'd love to fore go any type of surgery. Thanks in advance."
09/30/2009: Kathy from Dubois, Pa replies: "Just out of curiosity, I googled Magnesium Nitrate, and it doesn't sound like anything you'd want to fool around with on your own. Since the MagNitrate broke down Paulina's calcium deposits so quickly, it definitly sounds like something a person ought to take under a doctor's care, and probably while in hospital at that. That said, there are many ways to get Magnesium into you body...foods high in Magnesium, Epsom Salts soaks, Magnesium Chloride (Magnesium Oil), Magnesium Citrate drinks, etc., that are much safer. If I were trying to mobize Calcium out of my soft tissues (where it doesn't belong) and get it into my bones and teeth (where it does belong) I would use Magnesium, Vitamin D-3, Vitamin K-2, Boron, Vitamin A and Vitamin E, with Magnesium, Vitamin D-3 and Vitamin K-2 being the "big three"."
06/11/2010: Debra from Brisbane, Australia replies: "Magnesium nitrate is difficult to get. All I could find was a chinese site selling it in 25 kg bags. Anyone know where you buy mg nitrate?"
03/31/2011: Sue from Edmonton, Canada replies: "I have been taking a bone builder fosomax for 7 yrs now, also 1500 mg calcium and 800 mg Vitamin D as well daily, nobody told me I should take magnisum. Now I think my body is breaking down , My dentist said he never saw such deteriation in my jaw bones so fast in all his years as a dentist, also calcium deposits are forming here and there, I have been doing some research on a protacol where you detox all calcium for 4 to 6 months then build up again for another two years with a bunch of vitamins and such. I found it under total osterposis reversal by Robert Harrison. Has anyone heard of this, anyone, any feed back? I think that if I dont find someone to help me find the ways to rebalance my system I may die. Thanks Sue in Canada"
03/31/2011: Rob from Manhattan, Ny replies: "Here are some things that may help:
-Exercise is so important, (tell yourself it is non-negotiable) aerobic, light weight bearing, yoga..
-Eat vitmin K rich foods.. Natto, Kale.
search other links for Natto and bone density.
- some links on diet...
03/31/2011: Ale from Cardiff, Uk replies: "Why don't you try the techniques explained by Donna Eden in her book 'Energy Medicine for Women'? There are a few pages on osteoporosis. These techniques are very easy to learn and can be done safely at home. In about 3 months you should start to see dramatic changes in your osteoporosis levels. I have tried Donna's techniques on other conditions and they have always worked for me and my loved ones. Good luck!"
04/02/2011: Judy from High Point, Nc replies: "Stop Fosamax- a side effect is jaw bone loss, search "fossy jaw or phossy jaw" and for blog of people who have had side effects for more about it, it is osteonecrosis of the jaw bone. I had a friend on Fosamax and she started having pain in her jaw and found out about this side effect. I hope stopping the drug will stop any more deteriation. Im sorry this has happened to you."
04/03/2011: Linda from Troy, Mt replies: "Sue from Edmonton: If you read the side effects from the fosamax, you will see all of the jaw, esophogus, etc. Danger it can cause. YOU should tell you doctor that you do not need it and to get on natural foods, before something terrible happens to you. Linda"
04/03/2011: Granny Laura from Waco, Tx, Usa replies: "I never had indigestion until I took Fosamax for 6 weeks. That was 12 yrs ago and I have had problems w/indigestion ever since. Remember, Big Pharma buries their mistakes... Six feet deep!"
07/15/2011: Focus7 from Rennes, France replies: "Fosamax - a KNOWN for side effects. Fosamax, one of the several Bisphosphonaate drugs given for osteoporosis, unfortuntely, none of these drugs work. They ALL stop bone renewl and bone turnover. What they do do, is overlay old bone with a coating of new bone, meaning that the interior of that bones are not renewed and, in consequence, the bone dries up like to an old twig and eventually fractures in any event
The FDA NOW has black box warnings on ALL the Bis drugs. In addition please be warned that the recent legal trials brought against pharma did not succeed as their 'defense' lay in the fact that *warnings of the side effects were fully disclosed...! Side effects INCLUDE: Osteonecrosis (jaw bone death) AND femoral fractures
Better by far is to take Strontium CITRATE together with supplements of Vit-K2, Vit-E, Vit-D, and, Mag Sulph. Take the Strontium CITRATE on its own and the vits at a separte time of the dY - like two hours before or after the S. C Strontium CITRATE (very cheap and cheerful amino acid) has been usewd for osteoporosis for a number of years, has a good track record of *working. Please check out Strontium CITRATE use for Osteoporosis AND the side effects of the Bisphosphonate drugs.
Better health to all -"
07/15/2011: Newfocus7 from Rennes, France replies: "Fosamax is a KNOWN for causing reflux / GERD / heartburn / Esophagel reflux disease / LPRD etc. Multiple side effects and, in the end does not work..."
10/27/2011: Harriette from Ennis, Texas replies: "I had to have 3 of my 4 parathyroid glands removed. So now trying to keep my calcium levels up have been a problem. My endocrinologist and I are having an argument about what I should take. Believe it or not my remedies work better than his.
With flucuating calcium levels I cannot take any of the pharmaceutical drugs such as Boniva and such. So I had worked out a remedy of Calcium, Vitamin D and Magnesium. That got my calcium levels back to normal where his prescription drug and type of calcium he wanted me to take would not work.
After my last labs he said my vitamin D level was too high and to get totally off it for 2 weeks and go back to the prescription medication and only 2,000 iu of Vitamin D. Well I did not listen to him again. I did get of the Vitamin D for about 2 weeks and then decreased my dose to 14,000 iu daily. When my Vitamin D level was 111, which is 11 points over normal I was taking 24,000 iu daily. At that level felt good, no itching/tingling. I had gradually raised it to that level to off set the itching/tingling I would get.
Now that I have lowered the Vitamin D to 14,000 iu daily, I occasionally still get the itching/tingling, but not nearly as bad in the beginning after the surgery.
Also I have read to take Calcium Carbonate, not Calcium Citrate. There is a difference. My doctor wanted me on Citrate. When taking the Citrate my Calcium levels dropped below normal. Calcium Carbonate has to be taken with food for it to be absorbed. So I went back to the Calcium Carbonate and the levels came back to normal.
It has taken a lot of reading and playing with different things to get what I need for the calcium problems that relate to bone problems. I am now adding Strontium 340 mg and Boron 3 mg to my mix of bone building mix of things.
I had also read somewhere that the prescription meds such as Boniva and the others do not strengthen the bone that was weak, but actually increased the newer bone. So if that is true, the old bone is not strengthened, just what has increased from the chemical medication that destroys your bones. Food for thought on that one. I forgot where I read about that.
So for the moment my endocrinologist and I will continue to butt heads on what I should or should not take. It is like I told him if what I was doing was keeping my levels up and my bone density scan showed no bone loss since last year I must be doing something right. He should have been willing to work with me and supplements rather than prescription medication. He should have been willing to have me adjust the level of Vitamin D I was taking rather than add a prescription of chemicals to the mix. Needless to say I am still doing it my way so next year at the next bone density test it will be interesting to see the results."
12/13/2011: Erin from Omaha, Ne replies: "I'm thinking Paulina probably meant magnesium citrate. She said it was liquid and came in a bottle and it's the only form of magnesium that you can find in almost every pharmacy.
Also there is much research on the benefits of magnesium in regards to heart health. When there is too much calcium in the body, it gets stored in tissues ( including arteries). It builds up and causes heart attacks, stroke and high blood pressure. The magnesium keeps the body from storing extra calcium."
05/14/2013: D from King Of Prussia Pa replies: "I have had ongoing battle with calcium deposits in my knees since I was 12 and imstill getting surgeries to remove them my fourth surgery is coming up I'm only 32 I cannot keep doing these surgeres I have severe osteoarthritis and half bone on bone in one knee. I like the idea to quickly dissolve these extremely painful pain in the asses that keep me from walking or doing major activities with my toddler. I cannot seem to find magnesium nitrate anywhere do you or anyone know any stores that sell them in small bottles of liquid??"
05/18/2012: Vincent from Palmdale, Ca: "Hello my name is Vincent Andrews, and I have had calcium deposits all over my body for about 7 years now. I have been recently taking ACV and some Honey for over 3 months now, and it has improved my skin color. I was just wondering if the ACV or the Honey would dissolve the calcium deposits?"
01/17/2012: Marie from Elkins, W. V.: "I have read all the comments about calcium deposit, but haven't heard anyone say they cured it naturally. I have been SUFFERING with this plague daily for the last 3 yrs severe enough to send me to the emergency room with a blood pressure of 175 /170. my perfect blood pressure and pulse off the charts. I have had so many cortizone shots that my liver swelled up and I had to detox it. It is starting to really depress me. I don't have insurance for the expensive operation, and I feel like I'm just exciting, because I can't do anything with out setting off the pain. Can anyone give me some feed back about the magnesum citrate?? Nitrate?"
07/06/2011: Kathryn from Alpharetta, Ga, Usa: "Calcium Deposits behind the EYE: Can anyone suggest ANYTHING that might work for this terribly uncomfortable thing? I have dealt with this for over 2 yrs."Replies
07/07/2011: Debbie from Melbourne, Australia replies: "Apple cider vinegar gets rid of calcium deposits in the body, I am sure it would help for the area behind your eye. What does everyone else think? Just drinking it twice a day should help."
01/11/2012: Sheila from Charlottetown, Pe Canada replies: "I have had a calcium buildup on my cornea for many years. I've had surgery on three occasions to remove it but it keeps coming back. This is very annoying. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can remove this deposit with resorting to surgery once again?"
01/10/2013: Sharon from Eugene, Oregon replies: "I would take a guess that coconut juice, straight from the shell, could safely help with calcium deposits--it is said to dissolve cataracts.... Raw milk and other raw dairy products have worked for me to remedy calcium problems, with the enzymes still in the milk.... Have also used an enzyme therapy and a parathyroid formula... Best wishes!"
08/21/2009: Hina from Falls Church, Virginia: "Hello, I have a nine year old son and he has a calcium deposit in his arm. I was trying to avoid getting it surgically removed. Is there any thing I could apply topically to dissolve the calcium deposit? Thank you."
06/08/2009: Lynne from Lancaster, Pa., USA: "I have a good sized calcium deposit on my leg just under the knee in the front of the leg. Whenever I have to get down on that knee now it feels like there are splinters going into my leg. It has gotten very painful. Is there any natural way to get rid of the calcium deposit or is there some kind of ointment or such I can use to get rid of it. I would appreciate any help with this. I really don't want to go into surgery and have the calcium scraped."Replies
04/26/2010: Renee from Auckland, New Zealand replies: "I had calcium deposits, firstly do not take any calcium of any kind or shell fish. Take MSM or zeolite powder or liquid 3 times a day, and Vitamin C 3 times a day, or chanca peidra the "stone breaker" will do it."
06/20/2011: Hope from Buffalo, Ny replies: "Take magnesium 500 mg. 2x a day it will break up the calcium. "
04/13/2009: Abby from Cincinnati, Ohio, USA: "I have developed small calcium deposits on my torso, thighs, and upper arms over the last 20 years -- I have at least 15-20. One will show up every year or so. My doctor says they are nothing to worry about and that some people are just prone to getting them. I take 1200 mg calcium a day but doctor says this does not affect them. When they first develop they hurt and are sore for a few days and then the pain disappears. I would love to find a cure for these. It seems like my body is slowly calcifying on me!! Help!!"Replies
04/15/2009: Jessie from Alberta, Canada replies: "i have the same issue. i would like to know what ted has to say about this issue and if there is a preventative we could be doing. i dont pretend to understand everything ted says but i would still like to know."
04/15/2009: PR from Houston, Texas replies: "I have found some good articles on the internet by David Wolfe on calicum deposits being caused by nano bacteria. I believe that Ted has the same take on this too. If you google David Wolfe nano bacteria you should find the articles. He even lectures on this on U Tube. I think it will give you some insight on what is going on. Also type nano bacteria on Earth Clinic search more info."
04/16/2009: Abby from Cincinnati, OH/USA replies: "Thanks for the input. I have never heard of nano bacteria and will do a search. I did read a little of what Ted said about it. It was complicated. He did mention that calcium deposits were common with lupus and CREST? patients. I have a history of lupus and was on low dose prenisone for 15 years (they don't do that now). I will look up David Wolfe to see what I can find. Thanks again."
11/15/2009: Bill from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "Hi everyone...Concerning Calcium, there is much research that I've read that would indicate that Calcium intake in the West is too heavily emphasized. The only period you really seem to need Calcium is in your growing years -- up to the age of 18. After that Calcium intake should be reduced. Much more attention should then be paid to Magnesium intake, which helps to regulate the Calcium in your body. This mineral is very important, and is involved in over 300 essential enzyme/catalytic processes in your body.
There is a tribe in Kenya (the name escapes me!!), on whom they did some research on Calcium. They found that the Calcium intake of this tribe was only 300mg per day. The normal daily RDA for Calcium is about 1000mg as recommended in the West. The results of this research showed that this tribe had virtually no heart disease and no arthritis. Another important fact here, the research team also found that the tribe had a very high intake of Calcium from their grain diets.
A research team also found that the incident of heart disease(HD) in Egypt was 10% of what it was in the West because, they concluded, the soil in Egypt was very high in magnesium salts. The Egyptian Fellahin peasant agricultural worker also had much lower incidents of HD than the population within the more westernized Egyptian cities, where more processed, western food is eaten.
If you have insufficient Calcium, you will always feel tired and run down. There is an important relationship between the calcium in your cells and calcium in your blood or plasma. The ratio should be be 1/10000 in this cell/plasma gradient relationship. Magnesium governs and regulates this ratio. If there is insufficient Magnesium to regulate the calcium in your body, then the concentrations of calcium within cells will be much higher, and the cells will have to continuously pump out the excess cell calcium to maintain proper gradient and balance. From research, a cell uses 30% of its total energy when pumping out calcium. Which is why your body feels so tired all the time if you have this lack of magnesium problem. Magnesium, in the proper amounts, should help to correct this.
If your calcium intake is not regulated with magnesium over the long term -- many years -- then deposits will form in outside tissues. Calcium deposits form significantly within the soft tissue cells like muscles and cartiledge -- particularly on the cell mitichondria which also become dangerously calcified. Magnesium has also been shown to correct this problem over time."
EC: Thank you, Bill. Your feedback has been cross-posted to the calcium page.
05/18/2011: Julia from Sydney, Australia replies: "where does potassium fit into this? what if there is too much ca & mg in the tissues but not enough in the cells? Doesnt potassium play a part?"
[BETTER BUT NOT CURED] 09/09/2009: Marie from Kansas City, Mo, USA: "Dear Ted,
A friend of mine has a big hard ball located on his upper arm, about two inches above his elbow joint, that looks like someone stuck a golf ball on his arm. His doctor said it is just a big calcium deposit and wants to surgically remove it.
We've been trying vinegar soaked cotton, then wrapped it all up, careful not to get it on the rest of his arm and in only four days the big hard ball has become all swishy and rubbery like the chicken in vinegar trick.
But my question is: should we be continuing? Will it shrink/dissolve the big ball? Are we doing any harm to the rest of his arm bone? Your input would be appreciated. Thanks."
12/22/2009: Ron from Emporia, Kansas replies: "It sounds like the vinegar is dissolving the calcium deposit if it is swishy and rubbery. Since my response is in Dec 2009, you would have already made your decision to continue or stop. I would be very curious about what you did next and the results.
If you place a tablespoon of Calcium powder (Gluconate or any other purchased at store) into a glass of hot water and add a tablespoon of Apple Cider Vinegar (even the cheap stuff) and stir it up, you will see that the calcium will completely dissolve into the water...it will disappear. If you don't use the tablespoon of apple cider vinegar, you will notice that after a while you will see calcium on the bottom of the glass. So, as long as there is enough apple cider vinegar (acid) in the water the calcium will stay "in solution" (stay dissolved).
The same thing happens inside your body. If you consume enough acid it will keep excess calcium from depositing where it doesn't belong. Any excess acid will be excreted through the urine, causing an acid urine PH. If your urine PH is alkaline, then you know that calcium will be falling out of the fluid and depositing where you don't want it, like a calcium deposit.
The source of this information is mainly from a book by D. C. Jarvis, M.D., copyrighted in 1958. It is called Folk Medicine...A Vermont Doctor's Guide to Good Health. You wouldn't know it from the cover and index, but it is almost all about apple cider vinegar. He did several very interesting experiments on people and animals using apple cider vinegar. I got it used at Amazon."
12/28/2009: Kay from In The Valley, Ca replies: "You have perked my curiosity, did the vinegar work on the calcium deposit?"
12/23/2010: Don from Troy, Michigan: "After doing some research and talking wiht the chemist at one of the cleanest water departments in the US and here is the STORY... Your water... First there is an average of 3% medicine in the water that cannot be filtered out.. This being morphine, birth control, other hard drugs both experimental and everyday perscriptions are unable to be removed. As for the calcium is also in the water... I asked the technician soooo what about the calcium? Oh, is low an within the limits and I said what limit... By the day, the month? When you look at the bottom of the faucet you may see calcium, hard, white like crystal. Some of you may have seen it.
Anyways after drinking millions and millions of gallons for Sixty years or less it dosen't matter. You have stones. The organ wasn't designed to deal with so much calcium over the years. Sure for a day, a week or maybe a year but the truth is where do we get them- its our water. Just go out and buy a good water filter syster for drinking for about $100. Should do it. Yes they have $25. Too."Replies
12/24/2010: Dee from Melbourne , Australia replies: "Don, I agree it is good using a water filter to remove calcium deposits from the water. It is also good to drink 1-2 tblspn of ACV every day diluted in 8 oz water because that also removes calcium deposits from the body (which you may already be aware of). Put some vinegar in your kettle and see the calcium deposit dissolve."