Acupuncture
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(Florida)
04/11/2021
(FLORIDA)
03/09/2022
(Crescent City, CA)
02/19/2022
Acupuncture
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Acupuncture
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I have been reading your posts and believe this may be of interest. A friend has a family history of tremors in the head and arms, and went to a Traditional Chinese accupuncturist for an extended period. It has now been a year and a half that she has been free of the tremors. I have been going to the same accupunturist, independently before I talked to this person, and I have heard many people in the office talk of surgeons who developed temors and could no longer practice medicine, become healed by this Traditional Chinese acupuncturist and can once again operate on patients. This may give you and others with this problem something else to consider. Best wishes.
(Yosemite)
09/21/2018
★★★★☆
WORKED TEMPORARILY
Thanks RSW:
I am a great believer in acupuncture. I have noticed that the tremors stop when I go for acupuncture, but then return later - at the first sign of stress or conflict.
Apple Cider Vinegar
★★★★★
From personal experience, I highly recommend ACV with OJ for tremors, hair loss, energy, and heavy menstruation.
(Fredericton)
12/08/2016
Does acv alone would provide the same benefit? Does it have to be in OJ?
(Grants Pass, Oregon)
07/13/2017
I am 74 have had ETs for about 5 or 6 yrs now. Started in my hand then left and went to my head. Wasn't too bad to start but has gotten worse over time. Had a MRI of my brain when this first started Dr said it was ETs nothing else wrong. I think my mom may have had this too but not absolutely sure. Have taken Tremadone for about 3 years but not regularly 2 per day and not every day, so can't give a response for it's benefits but will try to take as told and stay away from coffee and other caffeine which really makes it worse
I am 66 yrs old, have been taking at least 1 Tbsp/d of ACV with lemon, honey and baking soda in a ginger powder tea for decades. I believe that ACV is highly beneficial for many conditions but I don't believe that it has had an impact on my ET. I continue to ingest the suggested supplements and foods, avoiding those that are listed as not recommended, yet the ET continue to progress. I do believe that a combination of all/many are helpful but cannot claim that any one is better. For the last 3 yrs, I have taken increasing dosages of CBD oil, which I must admit has had a significant improvement to a general sense of calmness and wellbeing with regards to ET.
Avoid Gluten
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Additionally; connections between this sensitivity and neurological damage, re: lesions and the occurrences of Schizophrenia, Autism Spectrum Disorder and Essential Tremors. Time, maybe, to either deal with the inconvenience of maintaining a completely wheat-free diet or putting up with all the disorders that it seems to be creating. It begins to look as if going to sourdough may not be enough. I've tried what they call 'gluten-free'. It's disgusting and disproportionately expensive, as are any products under the 'special' diet label. People try the Paleo Diet. Need to investigate.
(Usa)
10/29/2018
I thought I would mention to you that my husband gets violent when he eats whole wheat. I don't know what makes the difference, but we can eat bread made from wheat flour and Spelt without getting riled. The store ran out of the bread we usually get so I got the same brand in whole wheat. Oh my goodness, I had to throw more than half the loaf away. In addition, he cannot eat whole wheat crackers without getting grumpy. The same thing happened to me when I ate yogurt. I loved yogurt but our daughter observed how irritable I got when I ate yogurt...plain yogurt, so I just stopped. I am able to drink 2% milk but I get it in glass bottles, not plastic. Not everyone can tolerate the same thing so that's why I said it had been over a two decade piecemeal endeavor.
Here's one report: GLUTEN AND SCHIZOPHRENIA Fri, 05 Apr 13 08:22:39 -0500 04/04/2013: Lily from Kelowna, BC: "Dr. HOFFER did not only recommend vitamins and supplements. He also recommended a gluten, dairy & sugar free diet for most patients. It has been well known since the 1950's that wheat gluten can cause various schizo type behaviors. I heard Dr. Hoffer speak at a psych class at the U of S in 1964 also later at a public forum in Saskatoon.
(Usa)
10/30/2018
Dear Friends: I wanted to mention this earlier but just didn't. I was diagnosed with IBS several years ago and I noticed sourdough pretzels were really hard on my GI tract so I avoid sourdough anything.
I used to bake my own bread with unbleached naturally white flour. I could not use the typical "bread flour". I stopped because it seemed more of an expense and a waste of time for me and it was not that much better than what we can purchase for reasons below.
I strongly feel that infiltration of GMO's cannot be avoided just due to wind and bird droppings that has gone on for decades. Our entire food supply has been tainted. Now it would be a good time for a Bible lesson about this but not everyone wants to embrace that so I'll practice self-control.
The reason I got into the food issue was because I had traumatic brain injuries along with several head & neck traumas. My difficulties are called "Head injury Deficits". They are also ADHD characteristics. When I started seeing news briefs about the toxic effects of MSG and the onset of Alzheimer's along with other neurodegenerative diseases I felt there had to be a common denominator. There is...our food supply.
We get Nature's Own Butterbread and I can only eat one slice at a time, but not everyday. Oh, I know, it's got other bad stuff in it but taking magnesium and vit. C offer some protection and I am able to tolerate it. Sometimes I use a red skin potato as a bread exchange. Since I weeded various hidden sources of MSG out of my diet and started cooking differently, my mind became clearer and my fits of rage are nil.
I truly hope some of this will help you dear friends looking for answers.
Love,
KT
Avoid Poultry
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(Atlanta)
06/10/2020
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This is very interesting because I've had an essential tremor for a long time and according to Eat Right For Your Type (blood type) I should not eat any poultry. I had a bioenergetic assessment done that indicated I should have no poultry. I had a Chinese body type assessment done and AGAIN it indicated that I should not have poultry. Thank you Jessica!
(USA)
06/11/2020
(Oregon)
04/02/2022
My husband has been a vegetarian for 50 years and he has tremors. He does not eat meat or poultry. He does not take medication. We have serious concerns about side effects from medications used for tremors. One neurologist had him try two of the medications used for essential tremor however he could not tolerate either of them. One of them lowers blood pressure and his blood pressure is already fairly low.
(Florida)
04/08/2022
Here is a link to Dr. Berg's video on Youtube about essential tremors that I found helpful.
I do aerobic exercises every day along with B12 5000 mcg which greatly helps with my slight tremors. I probably have to add to this regime so I will be doing some more research into neurodegenerative diseases.
Dr. Berg also has other suggestions in his Parkinson's videos which I will look into as well because of tremors associated with Parkinson's.
Hope this helps your husband.
(Tn)
05/15/2023
★☆☆☆☆
This is not true, at least in this family, I have had essential tremor all my life and am a complete vegetarian, have never eaten meat, so too is my older brother, who is 65, has had essential tremor for 1 year, or father whom we got it from was 75 when he got his ET, he had a head shake, also complete vegetarian.
Boiled Fava Beans
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With the beans, boil the dried beans in a very large amount of water for at least an hour until they are a texture you like. You can store a large quantity in the refrig for convenience.
Co-Enzyme NADH
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(Crescent City, CA)
06/18/2021
If you are still on EC Nick, I would love to hear from you on your progress from 2019 until now, using the NADH? I was hoping to get to the bottom of why I have Essential Tremors, and so far only doing the magnesiums recommended. I do other supplements like Bs, Cs, E, and I do ALA. Just started Taurine after reading a good review on it helping, even curing ET. If you see this, maybe you could tell me how much of the NADH you take. I read it is also called C1, and then I saw Co q-10 in the same catagory so I'm not sure what to try. It's very expensive for me, so trying to gather more info. Especially if it still works for folks, thank you so much, Denise
Coffee
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Dietary Changes
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Gluten-Free... that did not help. High B2 doses, nope! Every vitamin combo you can name. No help.
As you all know this ailment is so frustrating and its a long road that just gets worse! I came across some research regarding brain using Ketones for energy through a ketogenic diet. A very low carb, high fat diet where your body/brain runs off fat. The brain runs much more efficient on fat. I've been on the ketogenic diet for 3 months and my tremors are down 90%!!!!!! I've been on earth clinic many times looking for the next advancement in tremor control. THIS IS IT!!!!!! DITCH THE CARBS!!!!! I CANT TELL YOU HOW HAPPY I AM TO RELAY SUCH POSITIVE NEWS!!!
Some days I do miss the chips, ice cream, sweets, but to be able to control my hands is so much better than a bag of potato chips. I'm not going to go into the details of the keto diet, but a simple google search will lead you to how to get started. I'll check back on here if you have any questions about my journey.
I went from having difficulty writing to having such steady hands! You would never know I had ET! MIND BLOWN!!!!! If you are looking for a solution, this is it guys. So Excited to share the news.
(Arizona)
12/09/2016
I have seen Ketogenic diets for individuals who have seizures, another neurological problem. Sounds like this diet can apply to those with other nero problems like tremor. Thx for posting your success. Amazing.
(Arizona)
01/10/2017
(Minnesota)
06/14/2017
(California)
08/20/2017
(Minnesota)
11/25/2017
Arlene B., sorry for delayed response. I did not experience any reduction in tremors from acupuncture. However, it was very relaxing.
(Reno)
09/02/2017
Thank you! I am well aware of the brain-gut relationship and have made huge strides in the direction of cleaning up my dietary act (gave up sugar and all processed flours and lost 60 pounds! ) but never thought about going the extra distance into Keto land for tremor health. It is SO annoying and embarrassing and has gone from "how do I ignore this?" To "how the heck do I get rid of this?"
Has anyone here tried CBD oil?
I am 66 yrs old, having been battling noticeable ET since I was 60ish and yes, I have tried CBD oil. I find it to be most effective, compared to several other supplements and foods or elimination of same. I will try the KETO diet as anything is worth trying to at least, decrease these so annoying Essential Tremors.
(Lubbock, Tx)
10/22/2017
!! WARNING!! Low Carb diets are known to help reduce weight, and according to this post, Tremors, BUT DO NOT USE THIS DIET IF YOU HAVE GOUT!!!
(Lubbock)
11/08/2017
I have bouts of gout and haven't noticed any worsening of gout from eating a strict keto diet.
(California)
11/25/2017
Is anyone still discussing on this thread? I am so desperate to talk with people who either experience some of the same issues, but are finding help through dietary, or home remedy. I just can't go with conventional medicine on the things I'm dealing with, especially these, two things:
Essential Tremor
Cervical Dystonia
oh, and not to forget the Acid Reflus/Silent Reflux (LPR) which is now almost 100% better just from leaving out some foods (at least I suspect that is why it's better, plus the fact I don't eat after 7pm.
I'm around if anyone wants to wants to talk, Denise
(Bowling Green, Ky)
03/19/2018
I have essential tremor as well. Have not had any luck with anything I have tried so far. I am on a ketogenic diet. While I love the other benefits of this diet, unfortunately, for me, no reduction in tremors. I do plan of trying essential oils next. I've read some encouraging things about them. Also, maybe the supplement skullcap if the EO's don't work. Fingers crossed on the oils, tho!
(Crescent City, Ca)
10/09/2018
Diane, I can't remember if I sent you a note before, I find it hard to understand the "layout" of this "forum".
I read somewhere here in the ET area about Theanine Serene w/Relora, and Acetyl L-Carnitine. I have several issues though so I have to make a diary on all I am trying now. These 2 things are the ones I got for ET, pretty sure. If you're still around, I'll keep you posted on how it goes. Denise
I had used EO for a few years...no decrease in ET. CBD has been the most helpful but also am taking Omega, Magnesium, Magtein, B12.. feeling it's a combination of supplementation added to a healthy non processed diet and lifestyle.
Good luck to us all as we keep trying to stay healthy.
(Uk)
04/14/2018
Hi DIane,
I have some sort of internal tremors going on for past 10 years, not diagnosed as it doesnt feel anything serious as none of the research added up to anything but stress related. A few weeks ago it felt like it was getting bad as became tiring and was going to go to doctor for tests however a consultation with my Ayurvedic practitoner advised me to take a tsp of scullcap 2x a day. I have been taking it for 4 days now and symptoms go when I take it. Still looking at other things. Also reflux is due to low Acid in stomach ( not high) - there is not enough acid in stomach to keep flaps closed - Avogel have a product to help that though there are remedies on this site too. Re distonia I would be tempted to try CDB oil.
I hope that helps.
(Colorado)
10/16/2018
Hi Diane,
I am wondering if you ever tried essential oils for your tremors? I use essential oils for everything under the sun and I am curious if you have found any relief? I am researching and looking into it for myself as well as my husband and father (Parkinson's). I have noticed a difference in mine a bit since I started drinking Ningxia Red everyday. I am willing to try any natural remedies and would prefer to stay away from medications. Thanks for any info you have!
(The Beaches)
08/15/2020
Some people I know have had success with botox treatment for it. I don't know a lot about it but should not be too hard to enquire with your Dr.
(USA)
06/14/2021
I'm a believer!! Keto is for me, and the rest of my life, at 68! Better late than never ;) First help was with Type 2 Diabetes, noticed no more blood sugar issues if I stayed off the sugar/carbs, at least down under 50 grams per day, usually less. No sugars though as they spike me bad. Don't want them anyway since going through the withdrawals is no cake-walk ;) Lost weight as a bonus, not pain from arthritis, crippled fingers are all but healed, bone spurs in neck disappeared (I had 2). I could go on forever on finding this alternative method of basically, saving my life.
(Crescent City, CA)
03/25/2022
Sorry to say that Keto has not effected my tremors. I've been on the ketogenic diet, religiously, for 14 months and no change, it's even progressed a bit so something is missing. I'm trying B12, B1, Magnesium, D3 and Vit E with both the tocopherals and tocotrienols. Been on all of that for about a month only, but will try and make it back to tell of any progress or lack thereof. Suggestions welcome, and I have the tremors in my head, and both hands. Can't sign my name at times, and definitely have a lot of trouble eating, and things like makeup, which I gave up on the latter.
PCL,
I've been keeping you in mind regarding ET and just recently came across this study that may interest you. I have written about Citicoline for other issues, but this study made me think of you and the results seemed to be noticeable and relatively quick at just 8 weeks!
http://rmsjournal.org/Articles/635925245011741851.pdf
Sadly for a health issue that really has limited options, there have not been more studies using Citicoline for essential tremors.
Here is a quote from the study :
>>> ' Citicoline significantly improved essential tremor in this small group of subjects. ' >>>
Art
Dietary Changes, Supplements
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I have some improvement since going on a basic Ketogenic Diet and stuck with it especially because it brought my HbA1c, as well as daily Type 2 Diabetes testing. 2 years and one month into all that, including regular walking & weight-training. I also lost 30 lbs and am at a normal weight now. I still have the tremor which seems to be related heavily on my anxiety issues, so I have to work on not just diet/exercise but the anxiety. The meds they gave me many years ago make me feel calmer but really I'm addicted to it, Clonazepam. Luckily I've never gone over 1mg per day and am now down a 1/4 tablet each day, and trying to go for just .5 mg this next months dose.
Since I was very young, maybe even before I started school, it progressed. If I had to get in front of a class or got angry I would get the shakes. Now I feel my anxiety is worse with difficult people to be around so I am beginning to isolate which is also related to depression I've had off and on for years as well.
Anything supplement-wise, or herbal, I am willing to try but all the info here I don't see any newer info, 2020 or newer lets say. My symptoms all show in my head that jerks left-right and my left hand is the worst, but have it in both hands. I notice it the most when stopped in traffic and feel everyone can see me so naturally, it shakes the worst. Also trying to do things like video-chat with family, putting on make-up is out of the question, and drinking or eating. Also, if I have to sign my name, or write anything, rather than type it, it's just scribble. Embarrassment makes it worse.
Please help if you can as I will be waiting and hoping for feedback,
Denise in Crescent City, CA
PS Supps I take now:
Magnesium Citrate 500mg 2 x day
Turmeric (for all they say it's good for)
Starting D-3 again now
PS I notice as I sit here typing calmly I'm hardly shaking at all, but as the day goes by, it can get worse for the reasons I mentioned above. I've been to neurologists but they gave me Topomax which did nothing for me at all. I don't want another drug, and won't take anything since finding I couldn't just get off the clonazepam.
Denise,
I notice you are using magnesium citrate and magnesium glycinate may be a better form for increased bioavailability. You didn't mention if you are taking taurine and that may be helpful for tremors.
I also wanted you to take a look at this small study for ET that used Citicoline to some benefit :
http://rmsjournal.org/Articles/635925245011741851.pdf
Here is a relevant study quote :
' Seven subjects showed marked improvement on Clinical Rating Scale for Tremor. Seven subjects showed moderate improvements, and 2 subjects showed mild improvement, and two subjects showed no change. '
The downside to this study is the small size and clearly it did not help two of the participants, but it did help the others.
Lastly, there was a fairly recent post on EC of a person who used a three ingredient homeopathic remedy to good effect. Here is a link to that post :
https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/essential-tremor2.html#hr
Good luck and keep us updated on your experience!
Art
(Crescent City, CA)
02/26/2023
hello Art and thank you so much! I'll look at all your info. I had some Taurine at one point but didn't really give it a chance.
I'll come back and let you know what I'm up to with adding some supps. I did just re-order my mag citrate so kinda stuck with that for now. It gives me no side-effects even at 1000mg per day but also, no real improvement, possibly a little bit, hardly noticeable. I'll look at the glycinate. I'm sure I read, at one time long ago that the citrate was the most bioavailable but I'd still be willing to try it instead ;)
(Crescent City, CA)
02/26/2023
Sorry Art, forgot to ask something of you. Can you tell me if slow-release Magnesium might be better for my tremors? I'm looking right now to find Mag Glycinate because I don't want to wait to try it even though I've bought the Citrate already. Maybe a silly question, but since I'm diabetic (T2) would the rice extract be harmful for my blood-glucose in this brand on Amazon..Innate Vitality..?
(Crescent City, CA)
02/26/2023
After reading the study Art, and googling other info as well on it, I am going to try it. I see it is on Amazon so I will try to pick the best I can afford, as well as the 400mg total, but 2 x per day. Pretty sure that is what the study used. They said 2 ml twice a day which equaled 400mg. Thanks and I will let you and anyone following my progress how it works for the ET. It has a ton of possible benefits as well, and also a few side-effects so we'll see. Can't thank you enough for the help though Art, Denise E
Denise,
Most of the slow release magnesium products I have seen are magnesium citrate or magnesium citrate with magnesium oxide. You were already taking higher dose magnesium citrate with little if any effect???
I would expect the rice extract content to be very low and likely not a problem and even if it were the magnesium should offset any negative effect as magnesium is useful for helping maintain glucose control as I wrote about here :
https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/magnesium-for-diabetes-art-solbrig.html
Art
Denise,
Actually, this is a quote from the study :
' The dose was 2ml twice daily (equivalent to 400mg /daily) taken orally. '
So I take that to mean 400 mg per day, but admittedly, that is the lowest daily dose I have seen for Citicoline in studies. Generally 500 mg to 2000 mg is what I have seen used in studies.
Generally, Citicoline has shown benefit in neurodegenerative diseases such as PD and AD, but ET is also considered to be a potential neurodegenerative disease with generally slow progression. Citicoline has many uses such as traumatic brain injury (TBI) or glaucoma. Also has shown some benefit in stroke recovery.
Art
Eliminate Aspartame
★★★★★
(Austin, Tx)
07/20/2013
Great point. Cutting out soda all together is not a bad idea, either. I have noted that my energy level and my tremors are reduced (but not eliminated) since I have been drinking 3 glasses a day of organic apple cider; organic lemon juice; and honey. It's amazing.
ET Research Discoveries
★★★★★
Here are two discoveries.
Researchers found postmortem exam of ET people discovered "abnormal connections among the neurons in their cerebellum" and ..... "over active brain neurons that tend to generate overactive brain waves, or too much electrical activity." ET is different than Parkinson's.
“We found loss of the brain protein GluRδ2, which is only expressed in human cerebellum, ” Kuo said. “That causes overgrowth of the cerebellar fibers, which leads to too much crosstalk and oscillations of cerebellar neurons. These neuronal oscillations cause tremors.”
Research is continuing.
https://www.discovermagazine.com/mind/new-study-says-essential-tremor-is-caused-by-overactive-brain-waves.
Also Dr Helga Clark discovered that tremors are caused by on-going poisoning. She said she had much by having the person meticulously look for chemical ingestion such as new carpet and furniture odors, chemicals in foods, household cleaners and detergents and more.
Refer her book: Cure for All Diseases, 1995 edition, page 312, Chapter titled: Tremor
New Century Press. Also, Dr Clark.com and Dr Clark. net
Currently looking at everything carefully, and making some changes. I had an analysis of body chemistry that showed high mercury and low magnesium and protein.
Leo
(Crescent City, CA)
06/15/2021
I so wish there was more feedback on this one, because this seems to fit what I feel about my Essential Tremor. If I am understanding it correctly, the above info on ET, it's a "brain" thing, not so much a physical thing. I'm going to focus on the poisoning aspect for now. For example, I have a very stinky desk mat I am no longer using, and rolled it up to take it to the thriftstore. Now I don't want to pass it on to anyone else ;( I've had it for about 3 weeks, and the smell has never left it, thought it would. My ET has been worse for about that long so I'll see how it goes after getting it the heck out of my apartment. I eat organic, very healthy, and brought my Type 2 Diabetes into the proper range (according the the charts, 4.2 - 5.7 in U.S.) so I still could be getting toxicity in foods, how do we really know right ;( A label seems to be able to say anything it wants ;( Also, I supplement with the best brands I can afford, and do not overdo any of them. Things are going very well with me, except, now I am focused on these tremors. Feedback welcome, not a lot going on in the ET area, but hope someone is around, and chimes in ;)
Gaba
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(Naples, Fl)
01/02/2021
I had a blood sugar reaction to gaba/ inositol combo pill.
General Feedback
(Jamesville, New York, Usa)
05/07/2013
My GP wanted me on Proponal 3x a day. It lowers your heart rate and I already have low heart rate. I didn't take it as I didn't want to end up dead. Today I went to a neuro and he wants me on another med which has some serious side effects. I want to stay herbal to which he poo poo'd me. I am chemical intolerant and he still gave me stuff without diagnosis.
(Stockton, Ca)
02/17/2016
A person near and dear to me drinks about 4 Diet Cokes (with aspartame) per day. She says she has "essential tremors" as did her mother. Her mother never drank Diet Coke and died at 76 of complications supposedly from Lupus. Maybe just get off the Diet Soda, and the body can heal itself.
Her tremors are so bad that she can no longer write legibly, and she says that they are beginning to affect her driving. Start with the easiest solution, I say, STOP THE DIET COKE. She, like Michael J. Fox, is addicted to the diet soda.
(Wa, US)
09/07/2014
We have a friend who we were surprised had what she called intentional tremors. She's probably in or near her 70's. I've been looking on the Internet and came across a product that apparently is working well for some people. It's called Tremadone. You might do an Internet search on this natural remedies product. Won't hurt to check it out. It's manufactured in the U.S. in California. Hope this helps.
(Iowa)
12/11/2015
I started using tremadone 2 months ago. I have ET in my head. They get so bad I had to sit or lay down to keep my head still. I tried propanolol, topamax, primadone, inderol, all without success and horrible side effects. The dr started me on botox shots in the neck every 3 months. 4000.00 a pop, could not afford it even after insurance. Tremadone has taken the tremors away apporoximately 95%. I only take one at night. unbelievable. Reading all your posts, I am going to try the gluten free route. Good luck.
(British Columbia)
04/03/2016
Hello!
I used Tremadone for 6 months, as well, abided by their suggested diet, all to no avail. I believe that I gave it a fair chance to make a difference. When you take a look at the ingredients, there really is no sufficient dosage to make any effect.
I too have tried Propranolol, after which I experience increasing fatigue. So much so that the fatigue created a much lesser quality of life than the tremors do.
Currently, I am trying Theanine Serene with Relora and Magtein, both from Source Naturals. After only 2 days, I have regained my energy and feel a good calmness. Hopefully, the tremors will decrease. So far, I do see a slight improvement while writing in the evening after a full day's work.
Good luck to us all with this challenging neuro movement disorder!
Many, many thanks for this wonderful website!
(Warminster)
07/06/2016
(Australia)
11/19/2016
(Warminster)
05/11/2017
Unfortunately, Theanine Serene with Relora and Magtein have not helped with my head tremors. I have been taking them since August 2016. So I am going to try the high doses of Riboflavin/B2. Hope that helps, my doctor keeps pushing inderol, but when I did use that many years ago after 6 months I had to increase it so decided to find a natural way. Wish me luck I am also looking at CBD Oils, will try the Riboflavin 1st.
(Faithville, Usa)
05/11/2017
You might like John Bergman you tube videos on neck alignment that can cause tremors if it is pinching off the nerve supply. Love the guy.... learned so much!
I continue to use Theanine Serene 2/day, one with breakfast and one at supper.
The Theanine Serene with Relora, along with Magtein and additional Magnesium absolutely helps with tremors.
I am also taking CBD oil and will be taking Ashwaganda, as well.
I feel that you need to take a combination of calming supplements and adhere to a healthy diet. I will actually steer towards a more keto diet to see it it makes any difference. Definitely, if I ever ingest refined carbs, I do see increased tremors. Diet does make a huge difference.
Not one supplement alone will do the trick. I am seeing that a combination of calming and neuro effective supplements are needed.
(Crescent City, Ca)
10/14/2018
hello christine,
Sometimes I'll read a post, then not be able to find it again. I just found yours that gave me hope as well as other's I've found;) I am just getting ready, literally, to submit my order for Magtein, and Magnesium Phosphate, or as it is called in a homeopathic by hyland, Magnesium Phophorica (spelling?). Feedback from you, or anyone else for that matter, very welcome. The Magtein I find I can actually afford is NOW brand.
(Usa)
10/15/2018
(Crescent City, Ca)
10/15/2018
Hi Kt, thank you so much! I've been researching which Magnesium is best for me, and found this info below. I want to get this one, and wondering about the dosage. Would it be different than the amount you suggested in the a.m. before food I wonder. Thank you again Kt, good to see you. I am taking all my sups, no shakies, so I think maybe it was caused by caffeine in my coffee. I am drinking it very diluted now. I know I need to just get off the darn stuff and will, I'm sure I will:)
Magnesium taurate -- Magnesium taurate is the best choice of magnesium supplement for people with cardiovascular issues, since it is known to prevent arrhythmias and guard the heart from damage caused by heart attacks. Magnesium taurate is easily absorbed (magnesium and taurine stabilize cell membranes together), and it contains no laxative properties.
(Crescent City, Ca)
10/15/2018
(Usa)
10/16/2018
Denise,
I have the Nutrition Almanac paperback manuals. I guess you are looking online??
That fifth edition you found should be fine. Lavon J. Dunne is only shown on my third edition but John D. Kirschmann, Director of Nutrition Search, Inc. is shown on the ones I have so you are in the right ballpark!
KT
(Usa)
10/16/2018
I think we are communicating on two different threads?? I am trying to reply to the one you mentioned another magnesium supplement. Reading the description, it sounds like a good one but you need to pay close attention to the other ingredients in it. I don't know anything about it and everyone is able to tolerate different combinations more than others.
Capsules are a real problem for me. In the manufacture of a capsule whether gelatin or vegetable, a manufactured glutamic acid (MSG) is created. It is a nerve stimulant. By a piecemeal process of elimination I learned I am sensitive to the toxic effects of a capsule. For example when I ingest a Bromelain capsule I will experience prolapse but I don't have a problem with prolapse if I open the capsule and pour the contents in some food like applesauce. Ligaments hold organs in place. Hidden sources of MSG stimulate some nerve cells to death. The body is always trying to regenerate itself but there will come a time too much has been destroyed and will not be able to. The same thing happens to me IF I ingest the capsules for serrapeptase. I know it is the capsule. Like I know pepper will make me sneeze.
For well over two decades I've learned I am fine-tuned into some "inactive" ingredients that can cause me problems. Any combination can be harmful. I believe the people who went to the food industry to have them test their own products more than my PCP and the administration who is supposed to protect us.
KT
(Crescent City, Ca)
10/16/2018
it's hard to find posts for me, but I'm getting the hang of it. My Mag. info is 2 or 3 posts up on the page I'm on (which was the link in my email for your last post to me).
Ok, on the book, it's on it's way, very good price, and the Mag. I'll just have to try. I am having bad shakes this a.m. but taking my "sups" the way it says to. I have not been taking my Mag citrate but started it again this a.m. Only 100mg though. I don't know that it will help. I want to be able to try more like you had mentioned the 500mg but a bit scared to try that with the citrate so will wait for my taurate to arrive.
(Usa)
10/17/2018
(Crescent City, Ca)
10/18/2018
I don't know how to take them another way Kt? I'm interested in finding out though? Also, I am having terrible nights, well, exaggerate on "terrible" but I'm waking up frequently and wondering if I'm even getting into full REM sleep now. I also am having weird, and sometimes nightmare ish dreams. Any advice on that? I am taking just the Serene (Theanine with Relora) Acetyl L Carnitine, and Magtein at night, nothing else.
My dinner was salmon, and roasted vegies. I did a tsp of Coconut oil with an English Muffin lastnight too. I did have Ginger tea (home-made) but before dinner around 3 pm. My book hasn't arrived yet from ebay, and they say between the 18 and like a week later (can't remember the date offhand). Thanks for your replies Kt, it's good not to feel alone in this.
(Usa)
10/19/2018
Denise,
For your reply to me on the 18th:
I agree with Art, if something is working for you keep doing what you're doing except taking the mag citrate. The magnesium that you ordered, is it 500 mg. capsule or tablet?
I only took 500 mg. tablet just before meals until my neck healed.
Make sure your hands are very dry. You can twist capsules to open them and pour contents in some water to dissolve or bite gel caps to remove contents then spit the capsule out. You can cut tablets in half. Now I have mag oxide powder I dissolve 1/4 rounded tsp. in no more than 1/2 C orange juice or water before breakfast then sometimes a 250 mg. tab before a meal.
Before I eat anything that contains oxalates I try to take more magnesium before I eat. You can Google a list of foods that contain oxalates.
I am not troubled with tremors but I will get arthritis pain, kidney stones or gallstones if I don't get adequate fat and magnesium. You really have to experiment. My concern for you was stopping the tremors first that I believe has been proven to be a magnesium deficiency. Then learning to adjust with making food your medicine.
KT
(Crescent City, Ca)
10/04/2018
I have dealt with the tremors since 1988 when they really started effecting my head, but had started in my hands. My head shakes so bad now that I sometimes have a hard time brushing my teeth, eating, and I cannot put on any eye-makeup (vanity I know). Also, I notice it gets worse when I pull up next to another car and I think people are looking so I shake all the worse.
My hands are pretty bad as I cant write well at all, and when typing, or carrying a drink I sometimes start shaking just uncontrollably so I have to set the drink down. With tea or hot coffee this is no fun Im sure some of you know. I wont go on about it, but I am grateful to see all the info I can gather from others who suffer from this sometimes debilitating nerve disorder. Im assuming that is what mine is anyway.
So no meds for anything, I am 65, eat a nutritionally as possible, drink lots of water, take atleast a 2 mile walk 3 or 4 times a week, and do free-weights for strength training. None of which has helped my tremor so I am thinking deficiency.
So my plan of action to start (because now, after reading here, Ive decided I dont just have to accept this condition without trying something natural) with, will be from a post I read here. I ordered the supplements which one contains Acetyl L-Carnitine, and the other I ordered is a combination of Gaba, theanine serene, relora, and L-theanine.
It sure isnt going to hurt to try these things that are working for a few other people on this thread. I have a clean enough system that I will know if something isnt good for me, so I will take baby-steps and see how it goes. This thread is so big that I just plan to keep reading and especially want to understand more about a gluten free diet. I thought that was only for folks with celiac disease but if its helping others, than it would be worth trying as well.
Enough for now, and I am just grateful for all the folks that get on here and share because you all have given me some hope that I may not have to just live with this. Thank you all, Denise
PS I will be back after I have gotten my order on the 8th of this month, and started my supplements:)
(Usa)
10/05/2018
The Nutrition Almanac declares a mineral deficiency often results in illness.
Try taking 500 mg. magnesium on an empty stomach first thing in the morning at least 15 min. before you eat breakfast and then with your meals, making sure you get complete protein with each meal. Amino acids are found naturally along the intestinal wall and act as receptors for minerals. Minerals have to bind with amino acids for absorption. (Nutrition Almanac)
Our entire food supply has been tainted for decades and I believe that could be contributing to the tremors. Hidden sources of MSG are nerve stimulants. There are voluminous hidden sources of MSG in our food supply. I noticed a post to avoid aspartame. Aspartame and MSG have a similar chemical make up. CBN has done several news briefs on both.
Magnesium and vit. C are reported to offer some protection against nerve stimulants in our food. Ginger is calming for me and fights cancer.
I haven't had physical tremors but have had over stimulating brain activity due to stimulants in our food compounded by traumatic brain injuries and used to have a spit-fire temper. I also had IBS, degenerative disc disease and arthritis diagnosed. Magnesium, vit. C and ginger have been tremendous help for me in addition to avoiding the above mentioned.
I had to change my diet piecemeal, by the process of elimination for over two decades to start healing. I am now 70 and only have trouble with adhesions from multiple surgeries years ago and a severed lining to my G.I. tract. My PCP said that will never heal and his nurse said as long as I can evacuate I should be okay.
If I don't get enough magnesium first in the morning I will have arthritis aches, which is really inflammation from nerve stimulants...could have been from something I ate the day before. Turmeric and ginger reduce inflammation and are both reported to fight cancer.
There is no one-size-fits-all but I hope some of this information will help you. It's taken me a long time to learn how our food supply is making us sick but I have also learned how it can be used to help us get well.
KT
(Crescent City, Ca)
10/09/2018
Ok, Kt, I read all of your post, thank you so much. I am a little confused about what type of Magnesium is best so I have Magnesium Citrate and I am just taking 100mg a day right not, no diarrhea issues but I realize that must be a pretty low dosage. I am 5'2" and and 136 lbs, 65 years old and exercise (walking) at least 3 times a week, sometimes more, sometimes less. Lot's of water, and watch my foods and that really started about 10 years ago.
I have acid reflux so that really started me eliminating foods, and I have the acid reflux under control. The "silent reflux" is also wayyy better but not completely gone.
Ok, so I missed one of the sups that a lady here on the thread mentions (soazburrolady) that has worked wonders for her husbands ET's. I thought I had everything but I need to also get Magnesium L-Threonine?? I need to research that though as it's another Magnesium. I am also getting Magnesium in the Theanine Serena, with Relora so I have to check these things out. For now, until I find out more from you and Art, or on my own "surfing" the web, I'll take these, as long as I don't have any adverse side effects;) Denise
(Crescent City, Ca)
10/13/2018
Morning Kt,
Something I am taking is giving me the "inside" jitters, tremor is better for the most part, but in the a.m. after I've taken my sups. I get jittery after about a half hour. I'm off the Mag Citrate, so I am not sure what's doing it. I am still doing my Blackstrap, 1/16 of a tsp of stevia in my coffee (which I haven't gotten jitters from any of the above before) and only 2, weak cups of coffee.
I didn't take my sups this a.m. just to see if the jitters are from the above though to be sure.
Any clues what I might be taking now that would give me jitters? Here's the list again:
- Serene (source naturals, theanine w/relora) for tremor
- alpha Lipoic Acid (for tinnitus)
- blackstrap, 1 tsp (but try to get in at least 2 a day) spleen - never caused me any jitters before I started the above items
- Acetyl L-carnitine (tremor)
- B50
- D3
- vco
- acv
Any idea on anything causing that jittery feeling? I haven't taken any sups this a.m. yet and not jitters.
(Netherlands)
12/19/2022
It should be noted that some people will not be able to take 500 mg of magnesium on an empty stomach without getting diarrhea. This may be even more of a problem with some forms of magnesium of which there are now easily more than fifteen different types. Two of the worst forms for diarrhea are magnesium citrate and magnesium oxide but other forms can cause diarrhea when taken at 500 mg on an empty stomach. I say this from experience in myself and others.
Art
(Crescent City, Ca)
10/09/2018
Hello Art,
I read a post from 2014 that Mag. Glycinate is best for not causing diarrhea? Also, right now I have added to my 100 mg a day of Mag. Citrate, the Magnesium that is in the Theanine Serene w/relora (and it is 300mg)?? It doesn't say what type of Mag. it is except it does say "as Magnesium Amino Acid complex". What do you think? I only started the latter today, just got it in the mail.
Thank you for all your help, but I know my body is only a testing ground for these things, but I am willing to try, with baby-steps, rather than take drugs right off the bat. Denise, Crescent City, CA
(Usa)
10/06/2018
Art,
Yes, thanks for clearing that up!! I am lucky it doesn't do that for me although the mag citrate is what caused me to have frightening palpitations and to be diagnosed with PVC. It is also what is used for a colonoscopy prep. I posted what happened to me somewhere else here on EC awhile back. I think under the A Fib thread.
I am able to tolerate magnesium oxide well in powder form and tablet. I also eat complete protein with each meal as advised in the Nutrition Almanac.
Personally I feel complete protein can only be animal protein because B12 is only found naturally in animal protein. I could not survive without meat and eggs.
Kt
(Calfornia)
10/09/2018
Hey KT and Art,
I just saw these replies and I think you guys are talking to me!! This is great, and first off, I can take magnesium citrate, and usually just 100 mg in the a.m. I don't know if I could increase that without the "other" issue though. I can try going up slowly.
I've also gotten the Theanine Serene w/relora and Acetyl L-carnitine and taking that. I'm only taking 1 of each though (TSwR tells you 2 a day is the dosage). Baby steps here;) I have so many issues, I'm all over this site. But I just can't stomach (literally)the drugs doctors want me to take. Not without at least trying natural remedies.
I need to go back and re-read each of your posts more thoroughly now, but wanted to get this posted in hopes you are still getting alerts;) Denise
(Usa)
10/10/2018
Hi Denise,
I have to apologize for my piecemeal posts. My concern for you was stopping the tremors first and because they have gone on so long it may not be a quick fix so the reason for the large dose suggestion on an empty stomach just before a meal. I eat meat and eggs. Diarrhea isn't a problem for me but I think that could be easily resolved by taking turmeric or eating a banana. The Nutrition Almanac reports amino acids are found naturally along the intestinal wall and act as receptors for the minerals. Magnesium has to bind with protein for absorption. I assume that must be why I did not have diarrhea.
I started taking a 500 mg. tab of magnesium before each meal years ago after I started to have so much trouble with my neck and the doctor I saw for my head traumas sent me to two neck surgeons after an MRI on my neck. That started me looking into nutrition.
I had a hysterectomy in the early nineties and was advised I needed to take more calcium for my bones. I started to eat a lot of spinach for the calcium. Previously I had multiple head & neck injuries that really never bothered me until I rammed my head into the door frames of our vehicles by using the step to get into them three different times because I'm short. After eating a lot of spinach I started to have grinding and "popping" in my neck that frightened me because I felt like my head was going to detach from my neck.
The NA explains calcium will not produce hard teeth & bones unless enough magnesium is taken. Too much calcium can contribute to kidney stones or gallstones without magnesium. I had a kidney stone so large it ripped one of my ureters.
Vitamin C is also important but getting C from orange juice has too many carbs. Too many carbs cause indigestion and that would take me into a whole different conversation. I saw a post by a doctor who went on a low carb diet just to lose weight and observed he no longer had indigestion. There is another post on EC about the summer my husband and I went on the free-range, organic meat and eggs and all the trouble we had. GMO's have infiltrated our food supply and cannot be avoided just due to wind and bird droppings.
I think it would be good for you to obtain a Nutrition Almanac. Everyone is different and you need to find what will work for you. I saw a report on the news that many are deficient in magnesium and getting it naturally is difficult so supplements are necessary.
There is so much more I'd like to share but with an ill husband my time is really limited and he does not like seeing me sit here so long. I can post this now because he was admitted yesterday to start his second infusion therapy.
I'll mention lemons are a good source of vit C and I just found an excellent report on lemon water and digestion but I am not sure about providing a link here, now. I think you can Google "benefits of lemon water" to get the report. I'll look into it after I submit this post and amend if necessary.
KT
(Usa)
10/10/2018
Okay Denise...I am sorry I am so piecemeal. "Citrate" is processed from corn and corn has been genetically modified. Monsanto's patented gene had infiltrated corn around 1998. All produce has been affected and makes assimilation extremely difficult.
The video "Food, Inc." confirmed our food was being engineered to last longer so grass-fed, free range and organic are no longer healthier and are more expensive.
I questioned a free-range chicken farm about their eggs because I had horrible heartburn after eating just one large hard boiled egg. They also fed their chickens some specially blended grain from the Amish that contained GMO's. It wasn't the fault of the Amish. They thought they were doing what was right.
My husband and I had more ailments when we tried to convert one summer to the alleged healthier way of eating. We both had more weight gain (I try to stay under 100 lbs.), heartburn...indigestion...reflux (whatever you want to call it, it's from too many carbs in the diet), constipation, kidney pain and bladder leaks. I believe I have another post here on EC about that.
About water...too much water flushes out the water soluble vitamins. The Nutrition Almanac says minerals help maintain "the delicate water balance essential to the proper functioning of mental and physical processes. They keep blood and tissue fluids from becoming either too acid or too alkaline and permit other nutrients to pass into the bloodstream."
It is just my opinion that drinking too much water is as harmful as the "fat-free" era, during which a lot of gallbladders were removed. The gallbladder needs fat to contract. I have another post here on EC about that too.
KT
Denise,
If the product you are taking is the one from Source Naturals, the ingredients seem like they should be very relaxing and good for ET. I believe that the magnesium l threonate (Mag-T / Magtein) will be additive. Most Mag-T products suggest that you take 3 or 4 capsules per day.
Myself, I take Mag-T and Magnesium Taurate along with mag oil applied topically for general health and specific heart and brain health.
One other that you can consider is high dose thiamine based on this:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29602891
They used intramuscular injections bi-weekly, but high oral daily dosing is likely to be effective also.
Here are two youtube videos associated with the study:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaIU3prQvg0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpmyDTOErEQ
Art
(Crescent City, Ca)
10/10/2018
Art,
Oh Lord, I thought you said addictive but yes, it is an additive that the lady that wrote about her husband getting rid of his tremors. She is soazburrolady;)
Ok, I will go ahead and get it as well. I am going to take the other dose of Serene tonight as I only took one yesterday, and none at night. I think that it is helping Art! I wont write much tonight, and I dont see the previous post I thought I submitted correctly. I had asked you about the Magtein being addictive, LOL!!
Anyway, sure appreciate all the info from you and Kt;) I will write more tomorrow. I want to tell you both about my doctor visit today. All I'll say now, as I am pooped out again, but a good pooped out from being busy running around living life today;) So what I want to say is, I am glad I am doing all I can to manage my own health, because I had told her I had a feeling of swelling in my spleen, or that area anyway, and she had forgotten about it completely.
I told her no worries because Im doing better. I felt like saying that I was doing better on my own than with the care I was being given here (or lack thereof). I'm really not bitter, I feel kind of blessed to be encouraged to do what I can for myself;) Denise
(Crescent City, Ca)
10/17/2018
Hey Art,
I doubt I can go the shots, not through my medical care (or lackthereof) but have you any info on Thiamine working (as you mention) as well? I'll do a google, etc., on it and see as I am just trying to find other things to be ready to try if over a month, 2, or 3 I don't see a good difference.
I read this today, and find it so interesting, and totally believeable. It makes sense because I know our bodies are no less than "amazingly created", imo;)
This should show a post by Cindy, let me know if it doesn't, anyone reading this;)
https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/multiple_ailments6.html#tips_161481
(Crescent City, Ca)
10/10/2018
Ok Kt and Art,
I am going to study your info as I need time to really read it, and read it well. Two things did stand out right away. I am interested in the Nutrition Almanac, very much so, and Art, I am wondering about the "addiction" you meant from the magtein? It is expensive, and when I saw the dose being 3 per day just like you said, I already decided I wasn't going to take the much right off the bat. Did you mean it would literally be addictive in a bad way, or a good way?
The Serene is making me just that, feel very relaxed and even felt my tremor was almost non existent when I got into bed last night. This a.m. I felt it was better than it had been in a long time, just slightly, but a noticeable difference, weird, but possible I guess;)
Again I'd like to answer both posts with deserving replies so I'll do that in the a.m. I think tomorrow;) Thank you both so much!! Denise
PS I am doing the Magnesium Citrate 100 mg, and the Magnesium in the Serene which I mention is 300. No issues at all with diahrea so far. I do eat meat and eggs, the best I can get;) Mostly fish and poultry though.
(Philippines)
10/10/2018
Hi Denise...Here's what Ted from Bangkok says about tremors:
"A head tremors sometimes is a Bell's Palsy caused by certain viruses, or perhaps demyelination. Certain oils seems to cause problems in which case granulated lecithin, vitamin B complex may help. Antibiotics and certain meds may have caused it. Also heavy metals also shorts out and caused it too. Changing water source such as bottled water may help, and taking some chlorella supplements, every two days, plus daily magnesium citrate 250-500 mg a day, plus daily alkalization until both urine and saliva pH is 7, usually helped. I had other cases of tremors before, so it was the alkalization, metal chelation, and magnesium really did help. Although the person was a child and had leg tremors, but it's still a type of neurodegenerative conditions bough on by acidosis, heavy metals, and lack of magnesium. Vitamin B50, some vitamin C helps. It should be noted that most supplements ideally is taken only 4 or 5 days out of a week, but the chlorella and chelation remedies require more spacing between days. A milder form may be just a small amount of cilantro and taken every two days also does the job too. In a child it was only a couple of leaves of cilantro, but in an adult dose, they may take larger doses as per weight basis.
Ted"
Source: https://ted.earthclinic.com/cures/essential-tremor.html
I would also agree with Art -- you should take higher dose thiamine (500 mgs once a day with a meal). I would also take B50 Complex once a day as well because the B vitamins always tend to work better synergistically as a group rather than on their own.
(Usa)
10/11/2018
Denise,
I agree so much with the recommended B-Complex. The McGraw Hill NA by John D. Kirschmann and Nutrition Search, Inc. is available on Amazon. A local health food store might carry it. That's where I got my first one.
I want to mention I never had any heart problems until I took the mag citrate liquid prep for the colonoscopies. It was only then, while sedated, I was diagnosed with an irregular heartbeat.
Awhile later after I heard a board certified neurosurgeon recommend mag citrate because it was more readily absorbed, I bought some and started taking it. I even informed a neighbor about it and he started taking it. I did not give my previous diagnosis a second thought. I was more interested in protecting my body & brain against the toxic effects of hidden MSG.
Some time after taking the mag citrate the neighbor and I both had frightening heart palpitations. Sometimes my heart "rumbled" frantically on & off. My PCP ordered a stress test and I was diagnosed with PVC (premature ventricular contractions).
After I spoke with my friends who had done research on "inactive ingredients" I was advised about the "citrate" and "citric acid" probably being processed from corn because it was cheaper.
In the production of ingredients, including amino acids, a manufactured glutamic acid is often created and is a nerve stimulant. In combination with others it can stimulate some nerve cells to death. My friends personally know the neurosurgeon who has written a book about the "excitotoxins" in our food and are mentioned in his book because he used some of their information.
It took awhile to get the effects out of my system after I stopped taking it. Just wanted to advise you that my friend, with a PhD., and her husband did a lot of research and investigation on alleged inactive ingredients in our supplements and medications. I continue to take the mag oxide several times a day with no problems. I feel they saved my life and even my marriage!
I must have provided something unacceptable because another post to you has been removed.
I feel it's important to note, not everyone can tolerate the same ingredients and because you are having a spleen disturbance I'd be cautious about combinations of ingredients you are taking.
KT
(Crescent City, Ca)
10/11/2018
(Crescent City, Ca)
10/11/2018
Ok, did take the time to at least read your post Kt, I want to look further at the Mag citrate now as I didn't mention yet I already have a pacemaker for a condition I was diagnosed with in 97. A 3rd degree AV node block so I have to pay attention to all the info I can get on this stuff. I feel a bit shakey this a.m. but no heart palps. It makes me want to stop the mag citrate though and will do that for now and see how things go. ttys, Denise
(Usa)
10/12/2018
The friends I mentioned doing research on ingredients started the site, www.truthinlabeling.org. They provide a list of possible hidden sources of MSG. When you reheat food...why leftovers taste so much better...you are creating more manufactured glutamic acid that stimulates your taste buds to want more. Those of us who were in the consumer group, NOMSG, recognize a variety of symptoms from arthritis and asthma to heart palpitations or road rage that are MSG reactions but because everyone eats differently not everyone will react the same way. It is a nerve stimulant, period and is the preferred method of killing the dogs that are used for consumption in Asian countries. They die of respiratory arrest with convulsions. Information obtained from Matulungin Publishing, Philippines.
(Crescent City, Ca)
10/11/2018
Ok, this will be short as I'm taking a gal-friend shopping today at 10;) but I did want to let you know I was reading your replies.
I have been on the B50 per another post I saw by Ted, he seems very knowledgable and want to try it as well. Just read another post yesterday about Riboflavin working for a guy that has Parkinsons. I don't think I've got that (B2) in my complex but I'll check. Cilantro I can do for sure, and haven't used much of that at all in the past, but will check it out as well. I'll give you the list of all I am taking. It's a lot of stuff, but I feel fine with no side effects like with the crud I was on for 2 weeks before I headed for EarthClinic;)
Started doing every one of these on 10/9/2018, but had used the Blackstrap and D3 a couple weeks earlier:
Blackstrap Mollases
VCO
ACV
All sups are Source Naturals Art:
Theanine Serene w/relora
Acetyl L-Carnitine
Alpha Lipoic Acid
B50
D3
Magnesium citrate.
Today I want to get the Riboflavin, and the Magtein if nothing I'm taking has those already. Comments/feedback welcome. I don't want to overdo it but as I said, I feel good, no ill effects.
This belongs elsewhere, but my spleen area (I haven't gotten to be diagnosed yet) feels uncomfy, but that's why I'm doing the Blackstrap, and Ginger tea I make from the root (real deal).
I read an article on too much water so I think my 6 of the 8 ounces are good enough, and I don't drink anything with my meals, smaller meals, more often is working ok. Denise
(Usa)
10/13/2018
(Crescent City, Ca)
10/14/2018
Denise (Crescent City, Ca),
The alpha lipoic acid is fully capable of causing that problem in some people with essential tremors!
Art
(Crescent City, Ca)
10/14/2018
Thanks Art. I don't think that's what it is though, since I did do that one this a.m., with no shakes. I thought it might be the blackstrap but took that too this a.m. The only ones I haven't this far through the day are the Acetyl L Carnitine, and my B50. About to take those now.
I still don't have the Magnesium Phosphate I want to get since trying some of a friend's, and I felt calm just in a few minutes. You put them under your tongue and they are by hyland. Also, I haven't gotten the Magtein yet. I can tell you that my tremor is definitely better than it was, and my feeling of more calmness is way better. I suppose it's interlinked of course, that if I "feel" more calm, less stress, less anxiety, my tremors would be better:)
Denise,
It is better to stick to one regimen at a time and your current one has already shown itself to work in someone else and you are already starting to see benefit at a relatively early stage so I encourage you to stick with it for more time to give it a chance to work to the fullest!
Art
(Crescent City, Ca)
10/25/2018
Hey Art, and anyone following.
I wanted to give you an update since it's been 17 days of sticking with it all;)
The only issue I had that is negative is the shakey jitters and I have it pinned down to taking my supps without food. I've been taking them early in the a.m. when I get up, all of them, except the night dose which I have been doing for just a couple of days now, again, with no nightmares/vivid dreams. Yesterday I started SAMe for my depression which I've had since I was a child (a whole other story than my tremors). I now drink zero coffee, quit that 2 cups in the a.m. habit, and replaced it with Chicory coffee, I love it!! And yes, that could have had something to do with the jitters, although before I started supplementing, I never had jitters from those 2 cups, not that I remember anyway. Here is what I am taking each day now and I'll include the things I take that have to do with other issues: Theanine Serene w/Relora 2 per day Acetyl L-Carnitine 1 per day Magtein 1 per day B50 Complex 1 per day D3 2 per day Magnesium Citrate 1 per day (may not need this, not sure yet) Magnesium Glycinate 1 of 400 mg per day Alpha Lipoic Acid 1 of 200 mg per day Virgin coconut oil 1 tbsp plus (sometimes a bit more) Blackstrap Molasses 1 - 2 tbsp per day Ginger Root tea Home-made, 1-2 cups I think that's it, and like you say Art, I do want to stick with this for now, at least a month maybe longer.
I sleep wayyyyy better at night, amazing! More calm for the most part, tremor is sometimes so unoticeable but then it comes up when I am slightly agitated or stressed. Also, when I got that sicky feeling (kind of like hypoglycemic type) my tremor goes nuts. I do know all the things I'm taking are helping me feel more hopeful about my health. I still have my "full-feeling" in my spleen, and my tinnitus is bad most of the time. I still think all these things will eventually get better.
(Usa)
10/27/2018
Just an amendment to dissolving capsule contents in water. I was only thinking of magnesium in a capsule. Other ingredients can be poured in unsweetened applesauce. I am adamant about the capsule and combinations of other "inactive" ingredients could be contributing to the jitters you report. I drink more than two cups of coffee (not weak).You'll never know until you stop ingesting the capsules and it will take awhile to get totally out of your system. If you take anything that contains a hidden source of MSG, even a minute amount of citric acid, that could activate the effects of the capsules. Broken amino acids can also cause problems.
Additionally, when my husband's spleen was enlarged I was looking for information to help him. This is what I found: http://www.jpabs.org/view_issue.php?title=Some-effects-of-monosodium-glutamate-administration-on-the-histo-architecture-of-the-spleen-and-pancreas-of-adult-Wistar-rats
KT
Hi Kt, Denise here, and I mention in another post that hopefully will show up here, I had to change my account. Anyway, I am overwhelmed by that link. MSG is in everything pretty much, and the conclusion on the tests are horrific:( I'm not sure how to avoid msg, totally. But you can be sure I'll be studying how to. Since this is the tremor thread, I will just talk about that for now. My tremor seems to be almost absent at times. It isn't 24/7 like it was. Mine is mostly in my left hand, and head shakes side to side. It's not shaking now for example, and my hands are doing fine on the keyboard. The left is a bit jerky. It's weird because if I am not thinking about my head shaking, sometimes I realize it isn't shaking. Then when I think about it, it shakes. I am having a lot more energy now with all I am doing for my tremor, and other issues. The 3 main ones are in order of importance to me, spleen enlargement, tremor, tinnitus. I take these things every day now but recently read where Ted says that supps shouldn't be done every day. I think he said 4 - 5 days a week?? I'll try to find that post from Ted. So here is what I take now: Tbsp ACV, tbsp EVCO, tbsp blackstrap molasses, home-made ginger tea, 2 parts chicory coffee + 1 part regular coffee at 2 cups. 300 mg magnesium twice a day as Mag. citrate and Mag. Glycinate. Just 100 twice a day with citrate. 1 x B-50 Complex, 1 x extra B12 5000 mcg, chewable, 2 x Vitamin C at 1000 mg, 1 x zinc 50mg, 1 x D3 2000 IU. This regiment has changed some in the 39 days I've been working on all of it. I have copied the books you mention and will take a look at those for sure, thank you Kt. I'm not having any side effects from anything I know of right now. Next stop, Tinnitus thread. It's way bad last 2 days.
Apologies on all the replies, but I figure things out late sometimes..I want to add that from today on, I am going to open the capsule of the mag. citrate, and pour it into a bit of unsweetened applesauce that I have on hand. I won't be using any capsules unless they are vegetarian type after reading about the Bovine/gelatin. I just want to test this info out. Also, I am shopping gluten free after reading a couple of posts below. thank you again Kt, Denise
(Usa)
11/17/2018
(Usa)
10/28/2018
In addition to separated B vitamins, broken amino acids can also cause problems when taken separately. They can offer temporary relief but long term...?? Glutamic acid is one that we recognize as MSG when it is a consequence of manufacture. An investigative reporter, formerly with CBN had been advised about that when he researched the toxic effects of aspartame and manufactured glutamic acid. They are chemically similar. "Excitotoxins, The Taste that Kills" is an informative book by Russell L. Blaylock, M.D. and another is "In Bad Taste, The MSG Syndrome" by George R. Schwartz, M.D. who wrote the Forward to Dr. Blaylock's book.
KT
(Usa)
11/15/2018
This is an update for my advising Denise/Art to eat a banana if one gets diarrhea. I have discovered that because bananas are cloned, they can cause problems with yeast infections. I have a short story about that but thought it best to give a "heads up" now. I was never a banana consumer but would eat them just because they were here when my hubs bought them. Before he got sick last Feb. we had stopped buying them because of the cloning news. Since he has been home, forgot about the news and started getting them again, I have only eaten three and now I am having a problem with yeast. Hindsight is 20/20...bananas were the cause in the past...when will I learn??
KT
Hi Kt, I will try to catch up here, this is Denise. I had to change my account as the site wouldn't let me login, or post. Not sure what the issue was. Anyway, I'll just say for now, when you had mentioned ingesting the capsules, I thought you meant the whole supplement, not the gel container capsule. I'll see if this will post, and then hopefully be back to add more;)
