Heartworm Treatment and Home Remedies for Pets

Hey Abigail!

I am sorry to hear about your girl being so ill with worms :(

If this were *my* dog I would continue working with the vet to deworm her and get the fluids out.

Because your girl has an advanced case, its important to work closely with your vet; ask your vet about continuing treatment with possible liver or other organ damage. Some folks are not huge fans of Lasix, but it is an effective drug and can make the difference between life and death; if this were a mild case of heartworm it would be reasonable to go the home remedy route all the way, but given the advanced disease condition its totally reasonable to follow your vet's recommendation.

Dogs can and have been successfully treated with advanced cases of heartworm so please do not give up fighting the good fight.

Please report back and let us know how it goes!

To Abigail from TX, my name is Lauren and I am pretty much in the same position as you. I brought a rescue dog to the vet because it seemed like over night she got bloated. I found out she had severe heartworms and since she wasn't healthy enough to undergo treatment I researched natural remedies to try and help Sadie.

I came upon this site , which about 2 weeks ago. Brenda from CA wrote something that really caught my attention (she has posted in several places here) she rescued a dog and cured him of heartworms by feeding him VRM2-sm made by biochallege. my dog has been on this medicine (which is all natural and mind you SO VERY VERY CHEAP) for 5 days. every day I see small changes. VRM2 is a natural parasite detox that kills small foreign bodies in the blood & tissues. normally you'd see progress in as little as 3 days, but since Sadie was so bad off with heartworm (estimated to be stage 5) it took a little longer. but like I said I'm only on day 5 and her coughing has almost diminished. I know it's working. if I were you, I'd definitely order VRM2-sm from Bio Challenge. if you contact me maybe I can give you a little more information in detail, or feel free to look over all the entires on this site I'm sure you will come across Brenda's posts. if it wasn't for her my dog would be dead right now.

meant to add my email is sharetheworldx at yahoo dot com you can email me if you like. but really anything I could tell you , I was told by Brenda who has posted in this site. she left her email too. I just can really relate to you now since my dog's stomach too had to be drained and they also put her on lasix. my dog was surely going to die before I read Brenda's post on here and now I know my dog has a fighting chance. YOU NEED TO GET VRM2-SM asap! As it takes days to be delivered...you are racing against time right now. every day your dog goes untreated is a day closer to death. I don't mean to scare you but until you get the VRM2-sm made by Bio Challenge I would say you need to at least go to your local natural & organic grocery store like Whole foods and pick up Black Walnut Hull, Wormwood, garlic, Hawthorne berry formulas........black walnut hull is one of the major dewormers in VRM2-sm. it's all natural and without it your dog will just get worse

Okay, so I took her back to the vet we got 5.8lb of fluid drained from her she has a uterine infection but they said there was not any damage to the liver kidney or anything like that so we are very happy to here.They gave us a antibiotic which I am going to keep her on along with the lasix but we are going to start the treatment with it as well.I got her worm wood, the black hull nut (dont remember the name right off but I did right the correct name before getting it) Coq10, garlic, and a 2x immune strengthener.

Hey Abigail!

Your dog has a uterine infection too? That is one sick pupper :-(

Is the uterine infection open or closed? I have had some success in treating 'metritis'/open and draining uterine infection with a douche of 50% tincture of iodine and 50% water - the tinct of iodine was available at the drugstore for under 5 bucks. I used a syringe and some aquarium hose to administer. I inserted the aquarium hose up the vulva a couple inches and then gently depressed the plunger. I did this for maybe 3 days in a row and found it to be very effective.

Hello, I started my dog on VRM2 on Thursday, March 13th. My vet told me he had severe heartworms. So, I wanted a natural treatment, and found this site. I don't know if my dog is getting better or not. He's still panting. I took him a walk this morning, and noticed blood when he was urinating. Could this be of the treatment? He just finished antibiotics on Wednesday, the day before I started the VRM2. How do the worms come out? Can someone help me on this? Thank you!

Hey Denise!

Sorry to hear about your dog's heartworm infection :-(

You treat heartworm by killing the worms in the heart and bloodstream. When the adult worms in the heart die, they break into pieces and they only place they can go is downstream, into the lungs where they eventually get absorbed. What your dog needs at this time is not a morning walk but strict crate rest. No exercise for dogs being treated for heartworm! This treatment is long term - you will NOT see immediate improvement as it takes time for the worms to die off. The blood in the urine could be related to the heartworm but without knowing more its difficult to say - your best bet IMHO is to check back with your vet.

Please read up on heartworm as you continue treating your dog:

http://www.homesforpets.org/heartworm_aftercare.pdf

https://www.google.com/#q=what+happens+during+heartworm+treatment

http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?A=610

http://www.heartwormsociety.org/pet-owner-resources/canine-heartworm.html

Please let us know how it goes!

Hi Theresa,

Thanks for the info, didnt know they couldnt take walks! As for the blood in the urine, I never seen anymore after that. He just finished 14 days of VRM2, and going to start another round on Monday or Wednesday for another 14 days. He's still panting, but I now know not to give walks anymore. He only pants when walking, or when it's hot outside, otherwise he sleeps a lot or barks up a storm at times when he wants something. :) He's 14 years old, and has other health issues such as skin yeast infection, which I am naturally trying to treat him for that, and also arthritus. He's a high maintenance dog. I am using turmeric for the pain. I don't want anymore medications, because it only makes his yeast infection worse. He's had this yeast infection for years, and it's been so hard to kill it. Medications don't help. I am praying these natural treatments do something and cure him, so he can be healthy and happy a little while before his time is up to live.

Denise, yeast is hard to kill off completely. My jack russel has been suffering for 9 years. Beside the fresh food diet I have wetting a cloth and rubbing him down with straight Milton but putting a elizabethian collar on him. I also hit his immune system with 1000mg vit c galic capsule, 5mls olive leaf extract, probotic capsule and4teas greek yoghurt per day. I feel at long last we are getting somewhere and we had good night sleeps with no scratching and bloody mess in the morning. May be you can find some help here.

Hey Denise!

If you are dealing with yeast try adding 1/16 teaspoon of epsom salt in 1 liter of drinking water for 2-3 days - max; this is not intended for long term use, just to nip a break out in the bud. When you stop the epsom salt in the water you can then start adding 1 teaspoon baking soda to 1 liter of water; do this for 5-7 days. This is a 'break out' or crisis dose. After a week you can cut it back to a maintenance dose of 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda to the water. If you suspect a fungal component you can add 1/16 teaspoon borax along with the baking soda in 1 liter of water. In acute and extreme cases 1/4 teaspoon of borax in 1 liter of water is indicated. Many humans take 1/8 - 1/4 teaspoon borax in 1 liter of water daily as a detox and antifungal/antiyeast, so long term use is not an issue, however all these remedies are something you should 'play by ear' and should be adjusted as you see fit. The water additives address mineral deficiency issues and should be addressed first.

Additionally you should consider bathing/dipping your dog in Ted's Anti-Staph/Anti-fungal solution:

You will need:

Milk of Magnesia [magnesium hydroxide]
Epsom salts [magnesium sulfate]
Borax [sodium tetraborate]
1% hydrogen peroxide solution [Buy the brown bottle from the drugstore, which is a 3% solution, and then pour it into a larger jug and then fill up the empty brown bottle twice with purified/non-chlorine water and empty that into the jug and now you have a a big jug full of 1% solution]

Mix 1 tbsp of MOM with 1 tbsp epsom salt and 1 tbsp borax into 1-1/2 cups of 1% hydrogen peroxide. Apply and do not rinse. This solution should knock out any staph infection or yeast infection going on in the skin.

For treating troubled patches of skin try 50:50 baking soda and borax mixed into 1% hydrogen peroxide until it forms a smooth paste and apply to the area 4x day. Do not scrub this into the affected skin, rather smooth it on.

These topical remedies plus changing his PH internally with the baking soda water should bring your boy relief.

Hi Suseeq, thanks for sharing with me what you are doing with your dog. Is the capsules you are giving him garlic and vitamin C in one? Right now, I recently started him on probiotic acidophilus, hoping this will help. Also giving him pure virgin, organic coconut oil. I heard it kills the yeast. I am giving him a TBS of that daily.

Theresa, thank you once again for the help on the yeast. Where do you get Botox from? I want to try this recipe on him, especially after I bathe him. :)

I Just noticed today he's getting some white discharge in his eyes again, which the vet constantly puts him on antibiotics for it, and it comes back within 3 weeks. Is there something else I can use for the eyes? Today I used some visine and wiped his eyes after that white film went down at the corner or bottom of his eyes. He seems ok for now, but wondering if there's anything else I can try. Thanks so much for all the help on here. It gets very discouraging at times, when you have a high maintenance dog, and seems he will never get better. :)

I give my dog tablets vit c and capsule of garlic . I forgot to mention I also make my own shampoo and wash him 3 times a week . the shampoo is 1 cup hand bacterial soap, 1/4 cup white vinegar, 1/4 coconut oil, and it doesn't dry his coat. in fact he come up like glass, I leave it on for ten mins making sure he dosent lick it then rinse. by the way just got up from another night of sleepful bliss.

Hey Denise!

The dipping solution uses Borax [not botox! ] that I find in the laundry aisle at the super market. If there is an option to use a scented one, you want the plain one with no additives.

And for the eyes consider a boric acid wash; you may be able to find a boric acid eye wash or eye rinse at your local drug store, but if not you can make your own.

Purchase boric acid powder at your local pharmacy. Ask the pharmacist for "medicinal" boric acid powder. (There is another type, which is used as a bug-killer.)

Supplies needed:

• 1 level teaspoon of Boric Acid Powder (medicinal quality)
• 1 cup boiling water in a Pyrex or glass measuring cup
• Cotton balls
• Small clean bowl

Instructions:

Boil one cup water and in the glass measure cup add one level teaspoon of Boric Acid Powder; stir until dissolved and allow to cool to a lukewarm temperature. Next pour ¼ cup of the cooled solution into a small clean bowl. Soak a cotton ball in the solution and apply to affected eye, cleaning away discharge from the eye. Throw used cotton ball away after one use. Repeat using new cotton ball until all the gunk is cleared from the eye. Try to flood the eye with the solution and wipe face with a clean towel. If only one eye is affected you should cleanse both eyes with the solution to prevent the infection from spreading to the unaffected eye. Repeat procedure at least twice a day, in the morning and before bed at night. Eye infections usually take two or three days to resolve themselves using this treatment.
Store unused portions of eyewash in the glass measuring cup - just cover with plastic wrap to keep it sanitary.

Wow!!! thanks so much for the fast responses, Suseeq and Theresa. And I appreciate the shampoo recipe, Suseeq. I have been using Dr. Bronner peppermint pure Castile soap, and I add tea tree oil in it. I really like your recipe. Antibacterial soap? Any kind will do? And the coconut oil, don't you have to melt it first before adding it in?

Theresa, thank you so much for the recipe for the eyes. I am going to use that ASAP, and this saves me a trip to the vet which is 40 mins away, and saves me from him putting him on antibiotics again, the culprit that's been making him worse. This dog is really keeping me busy!! Lol. Thanks again to both your help! You both have a nice evening, and will keep you posted on his progress. :)

BTW, Suseeq, I am happy your dog had another blissful night of sleep!

Yes Denise, any kind will do. I use camomile as that is supposed to soothing to the skin, but you can use any. Just make sure she doesn't lick herself. I leave my made up shampoo in the sun for alittle while then give it a good shake before I use. I hope this helps you because I know how frustrating this is.

I used the Bandit's Buddies de-worming program for a heartworm positve dog (google) a few years back. it was Black walnut on 5 days off two. Artemesia, CoQ10 an HSII, all from Natures Sunshine, which I used. I assume the brand is not always the main idea. My dogs were already on Garlic/yeast tabs for flea control (has worked for us for years).

Our guy was negative at the next heartworm check about 4 months later. I think one could get a test sooner and see the progress. He handled it all very well. Just after a few days he had more energy and seemed more puppy-like. He was about 9 yrs. old at the time.

I now use a different brand for prevention, it is a tincture of blk walnut and wormwood, 5 days on and two days rest.

My question - what about blk wlanut/wormwood(artemesia) for cats? Anyone use it on cats?

Thanks for all the suggestions for the heartworm treatments. I'd like to try the VRM2, but I'm not sure how much to use. The suggestion is 1-3 capsules at nighttime. My dog weighs only 9.5 lbs. I guess I could give him just one, but I want to make sure I'm giving him enough. The vet didn't say what stage the heartworm is, but I will not be starting it for 2 weeks as he has a little infection right now and is on antibiotics. Can anyone please give me any suggestions as to how much I should start him out on?

Thanks!

I have a 2 year old lab just diagnosed. Does this product really work. He is showing no signs yet? And I want to keep it that way!

My doggy is going thru the same thing right now, I am devastated. Seeing my baby in this condition is causing me so much anguish. Could you tell me if the process worked for your dog? If so can you tell me the exact amounts. My dog has stopped eating although I know he is hungry since he licks his lips when I put his food out. Please help!

Ok I ordered two bottles of VRM2 but from when I did my research to now I can not now find the dosing. Can someones please help me? Our Dog is aprox 85 lbs.

I'm not totally sure, but do believe my dog has heartworms. He sleeps a lot and coughs while opening his mouth (as if to expel in it). Where could I buy the VRM2 and how much should it cost as well as how long should he take it? I would be extremely grateful for your response. Thanks, Joy

Hello Joy!

The best advice I can give you is to go see your vet. They can do a 'snap' test for around $50 - and this will tell you if you are dealing with heart worms. There are other heart conditions that are accompanied by a cough such as congestive heart failure; it would be sad for you to treat for heartworm if your dog is not infected with them. The VRM2 product is not in-expensive and depending on the size of your dog, the purchase price of enough of the VRM2 product to fully treat your dog may well exceed the cost of a vet appointment. Please see your vet for a heartworm test before you begin treating for heartworm.

I've read a few replies and cannot see anybody having mentioned that garlic is only safe for dogs in very low quantities!

The entire Allium family of plants (onions, chives, leeks, shallots and so on) are highly toxic to dogs, so only the smallest amounts should ever be given.

DO NOT go feeding your dog multiple cloves! (I only say this so people are fully warned :-) )

I give my 10 lb. dogs 1/2 clove fresh garlic once a day. You need to crush it and use within 15 minutes for the benefits, also you cannot store it. Also, garlic capsules do not have the benefit either. Must be fresh.

By 'bacterial soap', I assume you meant anti-bacterial soap. If so, this could be why your dog's yeast outbreak doesn't disappear. Our natural bacterial levels is what fights yeast getting over-populated in an on our bodies. This is why antibiotics usually cause yeast infections. You might try replacing the soap with a little cold pressed, extra- virgin, organic coconut oil.

Where can I buy this VRM2-SM??? Did you only give this or was anything else added?

Also is this made for humans or dogs?

Theresa,

Where did you buy it from? The vrm1? The place I found you have to be a dr to create an account.

Shawna, you can google it: https://systemicformulas.com/products/vrm1-large/

Good luck!

I too am not a vet, but after researching all I could about heartworms, the process vets use to "deworm" the dogs of heartworms - which is very hard on a dog from what I was reading online, and years of horse farm management where I regularily wormed my horses - I chose a different unconventional method with my own dog. This method used the same "dewormer" medicine called Ivermectin; an oral equine ivermectin paste wormer that one can get easily from any farm supply store or equine "tack" shop. Cost for this oral paste wormer - about $12.00!

My point being: Instead of putting my dog through the trauma of the Arsenic/Ivermectin method and then try to keep the dog confined for 2-3 weeks (with a verty active dog I might add! ), then the thought of possibly killing my dog with this method, and lastly the $3,000.00 expense for this process that might kill my dog - but they would still want their money.... I thought I would try my method first!

Best part it worked!

Not too sure about using this method on smaller dogs as my dog is a larger hunting dog breed. Not too sure about using this method on an older that is clearly showing signs of being severely infected with heartworm. Here is my history & method I used. I bought my dog at 8 weeks old, and she was also only two years old when she tested positive, she had been on the heartworm meds since the Vet said she was old enough to start taking them. I chose to give them to her only April- September when the main mosquito problem existed. She had been heartworm tested once before(the previous Spring) & negative - during her annual exam, & shots. I had used my 6 mo. Of heartworm meds. Over the Spring/Summer & the next Spring when I brought her in for her checkup, shots, and new meds... She came up positive for heartworm. I knew she could not have been infected long enough with heartworm - as she did not show any signs yet. No cough, no tiredness/lethargy, and no bad coat/skin. I even had her retested for heartworm at another vet - that used a different lab from the first vet. She came up positive again. For that reason I chose my method......

Over the years, from seeing the vet "tubeworm" my horses for worms - a process where the vet 1. Places the recommended amount of dewormer & water forming a solution in a clean pail, 2. Places a plastic clear tube up the horses nose, and/or down the throat of the horse into the intestines of the horse. 3. Gets the wormer med. mixture into the belly of the horse. This is done by first getting the liquid wormer from the pail into the horse by starting the syphoning method with the vet's own mouth, then letting the solution/mixture go into horse until the dewormer was in the horse stomach, and pail empty of solution. Several times when one of my horses "acted up" during this process I would see... the vet have a mouthful of this mixture as he syphoned it! His reply: "hasn't killed me yet, and I bet I'll never have worms! " We even did this procedure to foals.

As years went by, the drug companies came out with paste wormers where one could buy a prefilled tube of medicated de-worm paste and "shoot" the paste into the back of the horses open mouth. This was so much easier than taking the life of the vet or oneself in jeopardy while trying to coax the "tube" down the horses throat!

This oral ivermectin equine paste comes in a tube that has weight measurements on it by 100lb increments. I decided to do this early in the AM so that if any adverse reactions occurred, the vet would hopefully be open. My dog weighs about 70lbs. I chose to start out at 100 lbs. - moving the dial to the 100 lb measurement and making sure it was tightly closed for this amount only! (Past experience taught me to double check the dials tightness - from foal worming a couple times the plunger moved passed the designated weight I chose - but I caught it in time. ) I opened her mouth and shot the paste into the back of her mouth, then grabbed her mouth and held it shut so that she could not spit the paste the out, but could swallow and move her tongue around. Once I thought the paste was down her throat, I would examine her mouth to make sure. The first time I carefully watched her for hours to make sure she was OK. She handled it fine. Two weeks later I gave her the oral dog pill she would have taken had she not been positive. Two weeks later - gave her the equine paste -100 lbs again. She handled all this fine. No adverse reactions ever- not even diarrhea! I thought for sure she would have diarrhea as the worms passed out in the poop - but no. We did lightly examine her poop with a stick, and could see small things that could have been worms after we gave her the equine ivermectin. From here, I increased the timing to weekly - but still stayed at the 100 lbs. as to not overpower my dog with medicine. Any worm has a life cycle. Usually Larva, Pupa, Adult. With each having their own time frames for each phase in this cycle. I was trying to disrupt the life cycle. Trying to kill off the heartworms - first the youngest ones, then by having the medicine put weekly in the dogs bloodstream - keeping the med. Levels high at all times in the bloodstream to work on the nervous system of the mid life cycles, and then the oldest life cyles - the adult stage heartworms. This seemed to work! At end of 6 months - went and had her retested. The vet called and said the lab had to rerun the test as it was "inconclusive" and the would rerun the test for free to make sure! I took this as a good sign... That the level of heartworms in the blood had gone down to the level between positive and negative. The test came back positive, so I kept her on the same weekly 100lb. Ivermectin equine paste. Six months later tested again & she came back - negative/no more heartworms. Due to this all clear test - I dropped back to giving her just the dog oral heartworm pill, and 1X per month giving her another mouthful of the oral equine paste - 100 lbs. Last time tested - (6 months later again), she tested negative again. Now I have gone back to strictly the oral dog pill. We will see next time what she tests - this test will be a yearly test though.

Hope this helps anyone going through this difficult decision with their own dog. After doing your research on the de-worming process for heartworms in dogs, and you decide to try another route - an unconventional route. More power to you. It was a huge step for me to take. A route that other vets won't tell you to try as it will get them in trouble with their vet license. I was willing to start slow, and go from there. I got lucky - it worked for me. Will one dog recovering be enough for you to try this method? Only YOU can answer that. With humans - when one gets so sick the family sometimes will make a decision to try another route - the drug companies call it "medical research" and the person or family must sign their life away to not seek any damages towards this company for their medical "research" if the outcome is not what one expects. Again - I am not a vet & I can't guarrantee anything! All I can say it worked on my dog. You will have to decide in your own mind if this is something you want to do - you and only you will be willing to take any of the consequences that may arise with your dog. Do your research online, and then decide.

Ivermectin is not a natural remedy and can be toxic and very harmful if not administered properly: See www.petfinder.com/dogs/dog-health/dogs-invermectin-overdoes

How many pills or capfuls (?) of VRM2 do I give to my 36lb dog and 54lb dog?

Mild foods the day of and after the castor oil purge. Rest, too. Do not run the pets or walk or hike with them. Do not repeat the castor/ ginger purge. ginger is not necessary if pet wont take it.

The regimen should be taken max 60 days. Give a month break before beginning again if heartworm season is much of a concern. 90 days with frequent breaks after first month.

Turmeric may cause anemia with prolonged use. If sufficient protein is in diet, should not be an issue.

Take this with salt: Some independent research shows Heartworm appears in <2.9% of untreated canines. Potentially; synthetic wormer is upsold to give veterinarians incentive for more cashflow, and to treat patients side effects of synthetic wormer and cash another visit.

Pulse it and he will be okay. 1/4 tsp is not bad daily for a large dog. But I prefer it to be every other day. vitamin c will increase iron absorption. sodium ascorbate, the buffered vitamin C, not citric acid, the acidic version, is okay for dogs. will help with iron absorption and decrease anemia from long term use of turmeric or calcium supplements. just be sure he gets plenty of red meat, or add some liver. Don't stop the turmeric. sorry for the late reply.

Two things I wish to say about the original inquiry and the following replies.

One, something that was never mentioned but should be, make sure that you are using purchased black walnut products NEVER use or feed an animal, especially dogs or horses, black walnuts. The walnut itself is fine but they tend to easily and quickly develop a mold that is toxic.

Second, as to the use of garlic, I feel the best way to provide this is actually in a product developed for pets called Brewer's yeast. You can even get this product at Walmart, although I find the ones sold by most pet stores tend to be a bit better quality. Brewer's yeast not only has the garlic to help with the fleas it has a lot of other products that help with worms, coats, digestion, teeth, etc. Pretty much the entire system. It can be used with both cats and dogs.

I'm back on the forum, still trying to help my dog that has heartworms. After reading your post, something dawned on me. I've used garlic about 6 - 8 weeks now, and used black walnut/wormwood mixture a few days at a time too. My dog seemed better but started coughing again and it just won't stop. When you asked about arsenic, a light went on :) I remebered also giving my dog BITTER apricot kernels for a few days. She was much better, not coughing at all. In fact I slipped and didn't keep giving the garlic everyday. When she started coughing again I gave ger garlic twice daily plus the black walnut. Ten days later, she is still coughing. I couldn't figure out why it wasn't working. I've started her back on the apricot kernels because they contain arsenic and I believe that was what helped her so much last month. I bought Apricot Power kernels, they are very bitter and my dog loves them. She weighs 20lbs so I give her 3 kernels daily. I feel its a safe natural arsenic.

p.s. Swanson apricot kernels are sweet, not bitter. I used those for other purposes but you need BITTER kernels for heartworms, cancer etc. Hope this helps someone and thank you for reminding me about the arsenic.

There is one product out there that has all the ingredients in one that kills heartworm and it is called VRM2-sm. made by Systemic Formulas. They do not sell directly to the public so you have to go to your local health store and see if they have or will order for you. There is also a sites on the net that you can order from.

You only have to give for 14 DAYS ONLY. For a sm dog under 10lbs, a half cap.,

if over 10lb. to aprox 35 to 40, 1 to 2 caps, and larger dogs 2 to 3 caps a day.

Do not exceed 3 caps.

FOR ONLY 14 DAYS. Find a heart support that is safe to use on dogs to give along with the VRM2. Especially if in the later stages of heartworm.

Do Not feed red meat or pork while giving VRM2

I need to add when using VRM2 that you don't feed red meat cooked or uncooked as it will absorb the product and it will be less effective. I fed only cooked chicken in a lamb and rice dog food moistened because of my dog not having any teeth. I did not feed any treats or people food. Hope this helps for those who may not have been able to cure in a 14 day run. Hope this helps.

Here is what I have made up since I followed enough people to see the different scenarios and what I have learned since I cured my rescue dog of 5 yrs ago.

What you should know about VRM2?.

1) do not feed any red meat (absorbs the product) while you are treating with VRM2 (chicken is ok)

2) If your dog is on any medications from the Vet..... VRM2 may not work as well (you may want to wait till the Vet meds are done or weaned off)

3) Do VRM2 for 14 days straight early eve or night

4) try to use a heart support along with the VRM2. (either one recommended for dogs from a HEALTH STORE or you can give Q10 (one gel or capsule daily)

5) Open up the VRM2 capsule and mix the contents in a small amount of food so you know they are getting it all. (discard the gel cap.) It will digest better if taken out of the capsule.

6) you do not have to restrict your dogs from normal behavior, but do not go out and over exercise.

Hello, I have a 2 year old lab mix that was recently diagnosed with heartworms. I purchased VRM2 and would like some advise from those that have used the product on their dogs. I have read through most of the posts but have a few questions:

How many capsules should an 80lb dog have? Is it better to give it morning or night?

Do you give it with food?

My dog is on Sentinel for heartworms and been fine being on it, although I have heard that giving it could be bad for a dog that was heartworm positive. However, the vet said that would have occurred when he first got on it.

Should I stop giving him this and wait a month to start VRM2? He is outside 3/4 the time in his outdoor kennel while I am at work.

I'm worried about doing the vet's plan and it affects on my dog and also trying to contain him as he is very, very active and loves to play.

I successfully treated my recent rescue, Buddy, using the VRM2 capsules to cure his severe heartworm. He was coughing and wheezing all the time. He's a Rottweiler/Chow mix, so he's a good size dog. I purchased 2 bottles of the capsules and broke open the capsules and put them in his food (chicken or fish, no red meat) for 5 days and then off for 2. That's not the recommended schedule, but that's what suited my schedule for consistency. Anyway, I kept this up until the 2 bottles were gone, and he is completely cured! No more wheezing or coughing, and he has so much more energy and spunk. I also continue to give him one CoQ10 and a garlic tablet everyday, wrapped in some cheese. I also give him an immune strengthener once a day. I hope this helps anyone who is looking for an alternative to the standard heartworm treatments.

I am looking for information on how many who have used the VRM-2 treatment have had clear heartworm tests. How many cycles of VRM-2 were needed for your dogs?

Please tell me where I can get VRM2? My health food store does not carry it..

To the person who replied with Warnings.....what amount doy ou use of brewers yeast for heartworms in a dog? and if youre saying black walnut oil or tnxture is really bad, then why are people using this to kill the worms?

Apricot kernels contain an organic cyanide, not arsenic. Arsenic was once used for worms, and it will kill them, but it kills the host as well.

After several unsuccessful attempts to find a distributor for VRM2 locally on the internet I finally found one, Northstar Chiropractic Natural Wellness. http://www.northstarchiropractic.com/parasites/VRM2-small.html

Thank you so much for posting this. Ordered and received.

Hi,

I was the original person that brought VRM-sm to this forum. I am not going to claim I am an expert on the dosage, but I have always said that doing the instructions on the bottle is not designed for dogs, but for humans. Things got so out of hand on here (exaggerated info.) that I pulled most all of my posts a year or so ago.

There are people that have called the manufacture and really-they have not done studies on animals and are not qualified to suggest dosage to a dog. I had a small dog of 7 lbs that was stage 4 with heart-worm and the vet (thank goodness) said they would kill her with their treatment of the (poison) arsenic shots because of how far gone she was and her age. They told me just to take her home and watch her suffer to death. (not in those words, but they implied that) I went home and gathered all the info I could, much like you and wrote down a list of things to get at the health food store like black walnut, woodworm etc. I just got lucky and went to the right place because the woman there recommended VRM2-sm. Her supplier (who has long passed) said to do a run for 14 days (no more) of a half capsule (for a 7lb dog) She also suggested a heart support at a half capsule. So, I mixed this into a very small bit of wet food and gave once a day (better in the eve) for the 14 days. She was cured. You know they are cured when they are that sick and I did not bother to get a blood test. The vet thought the dog was 16 years old when I found her, but she lived another 7 years and died of old age.

I am not telling you to give a half a capsule for every 7 lbs either. The max amount is 2 capsules for an adult human a day so if your dog is 75 plus lbs, I think 2 capsules will be ok. I am just worried about the people on here that are misinformed and would give a 10 lb dog 2 capsules a day in the 3 cycles like on the bottle.

The reason that humans do for 3 cycles is because of possible parasites in the colon and getting the upper and lower colon etc. from what I remember reading. Heart-worm adults live in the heart and in the later stages block the blood flow. The dog coughs frequently, sleeps a lot, and looses weight until the heart is completely blocked and the blood will actually be forced to flow backward destroying the kidneys and liver and killing the dog..

So, since the original dosage that worked for me was one run of 14 days for a 7 lb dog with a good heart support, maybe you should try the same. The dosage will be up to you on what you think for your size of dog, but I think up to 10 lbs (half a cap) 10-30 (one cap) 30-75 (1 and a half) 75-up ( 2 capsules) Give or take and do what you feel more comfortable with.

It is all natural and you will see your dog light up within 3 days and be more playful and alert, but more is not better. If you are determined to get a blood test, it is recommended to wait for 3 to 6 months for all the residue from the heart-worm to leave the system or you may get a false positive. Take care and this product really does work!

Are you people insane!!!! ???? Garlic is toxic to dogs!!!!!!!! Toxic!!!!!! You all should have your animals taken away. Oh yeah, "I read it on the internet so it must be true" forget what the vet says, they only went to school for this stuff longer than human doctors what do they know!!!!! Why don't you give them some chocolate too, I heard that cleans their teeth!

Gee, Justme - is it possible are you misinformed and flying off the handle for no good reason!!! ???

And yes, right from the interwebz.......

Myth #1: Garlic is toxic to dogs.

Lately many articles written in response to the pet food recall, have included ingredient warnings for people who are considering a homemade diet. These warnings are regarding foods that are supposedly toxic to dogs. And right there next to chocolate, they list garlic. The truth is, garlic is indeed toxic to dogs — IF YOU FEED 50 CLOVES OF GARLIC IN ONE SITTING! I would imagine garlic would be toxic to anyone if fed in that quantity. Heck, even water can be deadly if you drink too much of it. Obviously no one would ever feed that much garlic to their dog. Truth is, when fed in reasonable amounts, garlic is a fantastic ingredient to a homemade dog food diet. Not only is it a great natural flea repellent, but garlic is also a tremendous antioxidant and detoxifying agent for dogs. For more information on the benefits of garlic, visit http://sojos.com/garlicarticle.html.

Source: https://www.sojos.com/learn/articles/pet-mythbusters-5-pet-food-myths

Lynn I read your article and was impressed. 4 week ago we adopted 2 dogs from the human society. One is a male spaniel mix about 30lbs and the other is a female staffordshire bulldog mix. We just had both neutered and spayed. The Vet said they both have heartworms. She isn't to bad yet. But the boy is weak and kinda wobbly. Bought eveeything you mentioned and started both on the garlic and 3 dops of the black walnut woodworm. My question is how long to continue the treatment including the breaks in the drops and garlic cloves 2 times a day. I don't want to over dose them but do want them to have long healthy lives. I do hope you will answer me and maybe give me more advice. Thank you for giving me and others another option to this devastating problem. Dianne

How is your dog doing? I'm about to do this treatment on my 10 year old Blue Heeler. Praying it works!

Hello, my dog was just diagnosed with heartworms. I just wanted to see if the treatment of the garlic and wormwood with black walnut extract continues to work. Thanks

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While you were giving your dog the black walnut and garlic treatment you were also giving the dog a monthly dose of the conventional heartworm prevention like heartguard? I rescued my dog and took her to the vet and just find out she is heartworm positive. Thanks for the info. In advance!

Amen, and thank you. Will try!

How long did you do this? Just the 4 months?

I rescued an approx 6 mo old pit pup, she was very emaciated when I found her. I live on a fixed income cannot afford vet care- I am concerned that there may be heartworms ; the little cough!!! I am trying to find her a good caring home, but until I do, I want to start to help her naturally. I am not sure how much as per her small size .

I just read your story and intend to try this starting tomorrow, just found out today one of our dogs has heartworms, but has to be very mild bc she has no symptoms what so ever! Is there anything else you can tell me to help.

There are organizations that will help with vet bills if you are providing foster care for dogs. Adore is one in Houston, but I would research your local area.

Did the worms come out?

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW FROM MARY, HOW SHE TREATED HER DOG FOR HEARTWORMS WITH THE BLACK WALNUT...WE HAVE A MALE AND A FEMALE COLLIE BOTH AGE 9 THAT HAS HEARTWORMS, WE CHOSE NOT TO TREAT THEM AT THE VETS, BUT WE WOULD LOVE TO KNOW HOW MUCH HOW OFTEN AND WHERE TO FIND THE BLACK WALNUT...PLEASE ADVISE...THANKS,,

Mary: Yes, back walnut hull can be used to treat heart worm. It is interesting to mentioned black walnut hulls as a way to treat heart worm. It has a long history in Asians for treating internal intestinal worms and tape worm. It is also used to externally ring worm.

The active component I guess comes from the chemical component called, juglone, which chemically is C10H6O3, or 5-hydroxy-1,4-naphthalenedione Other names 5-hydroxy-1,4-naphthoquinone. For me it sounds like treating a chemically close relative called naphthalene, which is moth balls. Of course, my general feeling is that if this is used, a relatively tiny amounts is needed to treat such parasites. I haven't yet gotten around to determining the dosages for it, but it also has potentials.

Juglone, which is active natural insecticide from Black Walnut Hull is interesting chemically as it is used also by the industry as a food coloring and cosmetic coloring in the color of Natural brown color 7, and can go in many names such as Juglon, Walnut extract, Juglane, Nucin, Regianin, or 1,4-naphthoquinone. So it is possible that brown food coloring can also be used as a way to kill ringworms.

I couldn't prove it yet whether giving dogs, with a 1/4 teaspoon of borax per liter of water can kill ringworms as this is what I used to do to prevent parasites and avoid the veterinarians.

I avoided vets where I live because everytime they treat my dog, they all die. Whether it works or not you can tell. It doesn't take long to notice an improvement, usually 1-3 days at the most. However, I never had problems using it and only use if I suspect that my dog has parasites. Sometimes it is difficult to prove, since a dog can't talk. Therefore, insecticidal poisoning (usually from using commercial grade dog shampoo that kills fleas) is the major cause. To detoxify my dog, I used vinegar poured all over the dog, the dog will lick it off, vomits a little bit, and it is better.

I also hear that wormwood can also possibly be used to treat heart worm, but of course the information I received I did not witnessed them myself. Traditionally cedarwood oil is also used as a safe insecticide and can be used as a way to treat similar conditions for internal parasites. The only way to know it works or not is to try it out. However, black walnut hull is quite powerful and can be used as an insect repellent for fleas, mites, and possibly if mixed in sufficient amount can be used to treat mange, but will take more time.

The reason I don't try black walnut hull is availability, so I just went for more simpler methods such as the used of borax as it is easier to find. For some reason my dogs seem to like eating the borax precipitate if I accidentally drop it. Of course it only took a liking whenever he is sick. I guess dog's instinct is also a factor.

There is also a possibility of using natural insecticide against heart worm is the use of pyrethrin, which comes from Pyrethrum Daisy, Dalmation Pyrethrum (Chrysanthemum cinerariaefolium) which can kill the insect but might be able to be used safely on dogs.

As a way to treat dog's cancer, I think black walnut hull can do it also, as it also have some anticancer component, from the iodine, and the tannins. Of course, I would also like to add baking soda to my dog now and then (with some citric acid) as a way to stabilize the dog's pH. I have read that cows way past their age, can yet produce calves, if the cow's drinking water is rich in bicarbonates and magnesium. So as a result of this observation, I guess this might be one way of treating a dog's cancer.

My dog, an 8 year old female boxer/chow mix was just tested positive for heartworms and I would like to know what I should give her and how much and where I can get it. She is 55lbs. Any help please!!!

Dear Justme,

People on this site who are looking for alternative cures are usually a little more open minded and have weighed the the difference between expensive deadly products from the Vet or try a different approach. If it wasn't for this site, I would not have found VRM2 by accident at the health store when I went in to look for blackwalnut, woodworm, etc. from what I read here. I was just lucky that the person at the health store had a product called VRM2 that had everythiing I was looking for in it. I also use garlic and have used garlic on my dogs. Using garlic is not toxic if used properly and will help strengthen the heart. Even though I did not use any garlic while treating with VRM2, I have used it plenty of other times.

Theresa explains this well.

There are still people out there that think that what your Vet and Doctor say is bible. Just raised that way I guess, but Dr.'s have guessed at treatments forever and killed a lot of people and animals in the process. Then they learn from their mistakes. I learned this well when my mother was on hormone therapy that caused her to die from a rare cancer in 1999. You don't see advertisements for that anymore!

If there was not natural cures for heartworm, our wildlife would be dropping off like flies. Especially in the warmer climates like Texas and anywhere where heat and humidity are high for most of the year. Wild animals naturally know what to eat. Also, it was not too long ago that natural medicine was frowned upon as quackery and now people (as a whole) are a little more educated and have the resources to learn and talk about their experences.

Love this site for all the positive people and their valuable information!

Where do I find this at?

Since I already order health products with "Swanson vitamins" I just got my order of Black walnut/wormwood liquid, 10 oz for $6.28. I also got some calming tabs from them. My little precious is very anxious. Prices are good, delivery good, promo codes and percent off sales available. Web site is: wwwswansonvitamins.com. Their own brand is better priced. I now know how much to use and will begin treatment today. Hope this helps.....

I would like some information in treating heartworm with Black Walnut, Garlic and wormwood. My black lab is about 65 lbs. And she has had this for about a year, but only coughs occasionally at this time. I would like to know if only giving her garlic would help. She had a blood clot or a chunk of the worm hit her lungs about a month ago and it just about done her in, but with some rest she is doing better.

I was wondering was was the recommended dose and if the cough improved and after what time period? Thank you

Hi! I read that SADINES work but has to be in oil..I tried and it works for the coughing. My 'V' has heart worms and I am trying the woodworm natural combination as an alternative..the arsenic seems to drastic for her and me

I am greatful for the advice received here . Many thanks to all. As far as treating cough, use either lemon and honey in a syringe to ease the throat, or watered down cough syrup using kid size doses . It helped my dog with his cough and allowed him to rest. He did not enjoy the syringe but as I started squirting in his mouth he started drinking it and seemed happier for it.. I hope this is helpful thanks and god bless

Far too late to help the original message but this may help others.

I swapped from prednisone to yucca years ago to help with the cough. The prednisone had him eating like a horse and peeing like one as well. You couldn't feed him enough nor give him enough water. He was as big as a barn and had begun knawing at his forlegs from the side effects. Almost immediately he returned to normal.

Just be careful of the dosage. Weight/150 yields the percentage of a human dose.

The fact that along with the Black Walnut and Garlic, she was also treating the dog with heart worm preventative. My vet told me that heart worm preventative kills the babies, but not the adult heartworms. So ater two years the adult heartworms will mostly die of old age. If the dog survives all the baby heartworms dying (which shocks the dogs system) and the dog survives three months, then it is likely it will survive the two/three years it takes for the adults to die. But the treatment needs to continue until the adults all die. In actuality, heart worm preventative is recomended for the entire life of the dog. So I'm not sure if the cure could be attributed to the Back Walnut and Garlic.

Tom

How long would you recommend keeping our dogs on the wormwood and black walnut drops? Today is the 7th day I have given them the drops twice a day. One dogs seems to being doing fine. The other dog is still weak, but seems to be improving. I also have been giving each one a clove of garlic. We adopted both from the humane society 1 months ago. The vet said they both have heartworms. We had the both dogs fixed 3 weeks ago.

Thank your for the feedback on the use of garlic, wormwood and black walnut tincture remedy to treat the heartworm!

Traditionally both black walnut tinctures and artemisia (wormwood) are generally used together for parasites and heartworm in the dog. However other people have lately, added garlic (which repels mosquitoes) or added capsicum (cayenne peppers), ginger and/or hawthorne berries. As for me I give my dog a small amount of borax as a preventive, but yours is the first I heard on getting rid of heartworm!

My dog Bella was diagnosed with heartworms back in June. We adopted her in March and from what I understand it takes about 6 months for heartworms to develop. The vet said she must have gotten them around February since the test came back medium positive, meaning the heartworms were there but not so intense yet. So since we couldn't afford her treatment we haev been doing research on other options, and then I came across this site adn bingo finally found a treatment worth trying. I am following the Black Walnut,and wormwood treatment. I bought the drops from a health food store and follwed the directions on the bottle. My dog is 80/85 lbs so I followed human directions. Smaller dogs I am sure will need less. I did read a book on these ingredients and this is the same treatment to rid worms in humans as well when combined of course. So I started a week ago and I will continue for about a month and then I will take her in for a retest to check status. Here is the treatment I am giving her:

Morning:

Black Walnut Hull - 30 drops (or one dropper full)

Wormwood - 20-25 drops (almost a dropper full)

I tried puting it in her food but I have a smaller dog that eats out of her bowl so I stopped doing that just in case if it was too much for my little one. I tried putting it in her mouth but that didn't go so well, so now I take a piece of bread and put the drops on the bread and fold it in half and either put a slice of cheese in it or I spread some peanut butter since she loves that. She takes it twice a day.

I decided not to do the garlic thing quite yet I will see after the check up.

As a side note Bella did get horrible gas with in twenty four hours of starting this remedy. It subsided but is still there. Goodluck and may God Bless!

Do your research and ask lots of questions.

I am glad I came across this web page. I rescued a Shi Tzu from the shelter and I am sure she has heartworms because she is throwing up. I feed her Chicken Soup dog food, so I don't think its the food. She has been with me for about a month now. I am going to get the black walnut and wormwood and give it a try. I am sure it will work. Vets fees have gone so high now. I have 4 dogs. And I have to agree with one of the writers, they end up killing them!! Will keep you posted on my results.

Lisa

I do not have a remedy, what I have is 3 heartworm positive dogs, one that has been sick. I have been researching natural herbs to use to treat the heartworm and am very glad I came across this site. I have been looking at buying a treatment called hwt. It is a combination of herbs that you give to your dog, it does include wormwood, garlic, and cloves. There is other stuff as well. I am very interested in hearing more from Kelli and how much of each herb she used. I have heard that black walnut can be toxic if you give your dog too much. Could you say again how much you gave in the beginning of each, when you added more, and for how long you gave it. My vet wants almost 500. for the treatment plus wants to do all kinds of test first, that is just for the dog that is sick, it is about 1800 for all.

I used to work with a naturopath, and she swore by wormwood for any parasitic condition in both humans and animals. I have never tried it myself, but I have a lab/boxer mix, who has become very ill and is having seizures. I read that seizures can be caused by heartworm, as well as other problems. I have narrowed the list down and feel the wormwood/black walnut is my best option. I also agree about animals dying at the vet. It seems I go home with a huge bill and no animal and that is very sad! Plus the animals are so scared being left there. I would rather treat them at home.

I am currently following a regimen by Hulda Clark. Besides Black Walnut Hull and woodworm it also includes cloves. Black walnut and woodworm kill the adult worms, and cloves kill off the larvae and eggs. She says that they all must be used together in order to work efficiently. Makes sense. Just like with fleas, the real problem is not the adult flea but the various stages they go through before they become adults. I am only in my 3rd week with my dogs, but I am already seeing improvement with some of the secondary problems my dogs have been having. Various sites have the regimen listed, just google Hulda Clark pet parasite cleanse and you will find it. I posted the regimen here, maybe a search for Hulda Clark will get you to it here as well.

I have just recently started my dog on the black walnut/woodworm regime. How soon should I start seeing signs of it working? Since I couldnt find a dosage amount anywhere I've been giving one dropperful of each a day plus 2 garlic pills. Is this an accurate dosage? Please advise.

I'm glad there was a happy ending.

Tina, we just adopted a 6 to 10 month old pup whom I know has roundworms and I am pretty sure has heartworm. If his test comes back positive, I'd love to know the amount your giving your dog of each of the ingredients listed, and how often you're doing it (once a day, twice a day, etc. ). I hope your pup's test results come back favorably!! Thanks so much!

Tina, Can you please help me. We just found out last weekend my dog has heartworm. He is 6yrs old and has been with us for all his life. I can't afford the treatment my vet has offer us plus they only give us a 50/50 chance of him actually making alive. I just can't give up. I need to try something. Please tell me what I should get and do to save my dog. Thanks, Sue

I thought I should share what I learned when I lived in San Antonio texas for almost 3 years and rescued a old, sick, extremely under weight chihuahua. I noticed right away that she couldn't take but a few steps and would go into a coughing frenzy. I took her to a free animal clinic and sure enough she was in the later stages of heartworm. They said because of her age they could not do the heartworm treatment injections (arsenic) because her heart would not beable to take it and she would die. It broke my heart as she was lifeless and suffering. I was told to just take her home and she did have a long life and was with someone now who cared for her. I got on the net and searched for natural remedies. I too came across plenty of remedies, but didn't like to purchase on the web so I went to my local health food store. I bought a product called VRM2 made by their systemic formulas. I also purchased a heart support product to give her because of her age. The store employee directed me to give her a half of a capsule of each (because of her weight) for 10 days. I mixed this in a small amount of her wet food as prescribed. This kills all parasites and I never gave her any other wormers or anything else. She is still alive and kicking today almost 5 years later. She had almost immediate results. She is hard of hearing and doesn't see well because of her age, but she jumps up runs and barks with the rest of my dogs. No coughing whatsoever. I have done the treatment once again months down the road because I wanted to be sure and really couldn't believe that this was that simple to cure. If I still lived in the south I would never use heartworm preventatives again. I would just treat all my dogs once or twice a year with this. I believe that much in this product and it is all natural. I hope this helps anyone that needs help now and doesn't know what to do. P. S your dog does not have to be restricted to exersise either because this is a natural product and kills the worm slowly.

I wanted to add that VRM2 ingredients are as follows:

black walnut (leaves), Kamala (whole), Quassia chips (bark), Bromelain Enzyme, Bethylnut, and wormwood (whole).

Don't follow the directions on the bottle because it was designed for humans. I gave for 14 days with a heart support (capsule) for this dog. You can do again months down the road if you want. I had a lot left from 1 bottle so I did my other dogs later to kill any parasites that they may have contracted. Hope this helps, because it worked a miracle for this dog.

Also since I returned to California I have not given any heartworm preventatives to any of my dogs or have I ever had to here. I had them checked when I moved to San Antonio (the ones I took with me) and they came up negative.

Hi Bempierre, can you give more details on how much you gave of that VRM2 for your dog (it's a tiny one, right?) And what is the name of the heart support product? Is it also natural?

Hi, To answer on the amount of VRM2 I used was 1/2 capsule once a day mixed into a small amount of wet food. (chicken, meat slices, or anything like that even a little bit of can dog food will do even though I don't like to feed can) The heart support was in capsule form too and I gave her half a cap per day. I no longer have any left, but any heart support in capsule form will do also at the health store. She is aprox 7 lbs. And I think a half cap would be good for up to 10 lbs. If you are unsure and you dog is 15 lbs to 35lbs I would give 1 to 1 1/2 cap. After that I would give 2 to 3 cap. Not to exceed 3 caps. Hope this helps..

Hi Dee, I used 1/2/capsule on my dog for 10 days and she is 7 lbs. I think 1/2 cap would be fine for up to 30-35 lbs. The heart support is also in capsule form and I used 1/2 capsule. It would be the same doses as the VRM2. I don't have the bottle of heart support any more, but any heart support in cap form at any health store will work. Hope this helps.

hi, I suspect our dogs might have heartworm. Need to have it tested before I start treatment. One of the dogs had a severe reaction to Ivermectin so that's a big no no!! Reading the terrible side effects of arsenic, that's a no no as well. I would like to try the VRM2; our dogs range between 20 and 30 kg. What would be the dose?? As heart support we already give them ground flaxseed; heaped teaspoon daily and of course a heaped teaspoon of minced garlic.

I wanted to know the correct doses for my dogs in treating them with the black walnut. Wormwood. Dandelion and the b12 combination. My smallest animal has developed a constant cough that keeps getting worse and I'm pretty sure that he has heartworm. Was hoping that I could fix it with this combo. As we all know how very expensive vet bills can be.

Hey Chris!

Its hard to provide any dosage guidelines without knowing the weight of your dog.

Also, it might be worth your while to get a definitive diagnosis; heartworm 'snap' tests are inexpensive and will confirm in minutes if your dog has HW. Since you mention a small dog, I would want to rule out tracheal issues as well.

What was the end result?

I'm having trouble finding the page that lists the ingredients and doseage. Can anyone reply with the link. I'm new to the site, trying to help a friend treat a cat that she rescued from the local kill shelter. The vet told her to take it home and care for it until it dies...... Would like the doseage for the Blk Walnut, Wormwood, Dandelion, B12 & Garlic. Thanks

Hey Petpeeps!

It is difficult to reply with specific dosages because there are so many different factors at play making advice difficult at best.

There are myriad brands of black walnut, wormwood, and so on, and they come in tinctures and powders and solid capsules and so on. In addition, many posters omit crucial information in their requests such as age, condition of the animal, weight of the animal, that make it difficult if not impossible to provide accurate information.

The best advice I can give is this: read the label on the bottle for dosage information. Many times dosing ivolves going with your gut or its hit/miss untiul you find the dose that works for your particular pet.

Next, google and search for those in a similar situation; you may find that someone with a cat that was HW+ posted about their experiences treating their own cat with the product you wish to use and the information - dosage and all - might be found on a rescue cat forum, for example.

And lastly, you might consider the VRM2 that has been discussed recently; while I have no personal experience with it, the results have been very positive - and the dosage is already worked out.

I have a German shepherd mix w wolf.. He has heartworm.. What kind of garlic and walnut extract.. I need to know where I can get me sum

Please fill me in on quanities/dosages I have a pit bull with an advanced stage of heart worms this information would be very helpful thanks alot

So how is your dog doing? Did the remedies work?

Wanting to know how the pitbull that Tina had in kissimma Florida was doing from the post put up in 2012

How is your pit bull doing?

How much did you give your dog in dosage?

We have two great danes, one of whom was just diagnosed with heartworm larvae was found. How much does it cost to get all this stuff? We are hardly getting by. My husband just got a job after 7 months and it only pays a little, with myself I can't work right now we would like to try this.

May I know how many drop of BW and WM you give to your dog? Do we need to increase the dosage as days pass?

Hi Deborah, I was just wondering whether you were able to treat your great dane successfully? Thank you.

Hey Terriinttown!

Can you tell us exactly what you did? I know a lot of readers will appreciate having your first hand instructions!

Can you tell us the age and weight of your dog? And how many drops wormwood to how many drops black walnut hull? Or did you use something other than tinctures? And how often did you dose - morning and evening or once per day or ?? And can you tell us for how long / how many weeks you treated?

Thank you!!

How often did you give the black walnut hull?

Where can I find out how much of each to give my dog for heartworm treatment?

Where can I aquire this? Is it already made to the dose or does it have to be mixed?

Hey there I see you used the black walnut and wormwood oil to treat your dog for heart worms. How often did you give that to him? I've been trying to research it for sometime now and I can't seem to find anyone who tells you how much to use! Is it daily? Weekly? How many drops however often. I just found out one of my dogs has advanced heart worms and we rescued him at 3 1/2. He is 5 now and we just found it. :(

Hey Karlie!

The reason you do not see any dosage information is due to many reasons, weight of the individual pet being a major factor, as well as differences between product brands and potency: the bottle of wormwood that I have on my shelf may be super concentrated while the bottle you are using may only be half the strength compared to the product I have [this is just an example - I do not have this product at home! ]

You have to play it by ear; adjust the dose for *your* pet per the specific product you are using. A very good idea is to read the dose recommendations on the product packaging/on the product itself as a starting point; if the product is for humans, you might consider a child dose [unless you have a giant breed]. Also it never hurts to call the company and ask directly about what does is best suited.

As a general rule, to answer your question, you would dose am and pm on a daily basis - but the exact dose is something you will have to determine based on the specific product you have while taking into consideration your pet's weight.

Please read up on heart worm and supportive care if you wish to treat your dog for heart worm:

http://www.homesforpets.org/heartworm_aftercare.pdf

https://www.google.com/#q=what+happens+during+heartworm+treatment

http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?A=610

http://www.heartwormsociety.org/pet-owner-resources/canine-heartworm.html

How much to treat a dog 10-15 pounds who has heartworms?

How much did you give your dog?

My dog is allergic to black walnut hull. Do you think wormwood alone would work as the primary ingredient for killing adult heartworms?

I've treating our 150 lb English Mastiff with Black Walnut Hulls for 4 months. the capsules came in 500mg. we experimented by divided the pills into 125mg a day for 1 month with no side effects. 5 days on and 3 days off the meds. Went to 250mg for 1 month with no side effects. 5 days of meds and 4 days off. We stayed on this scheduled until the end of April. No meds until we met with our vet.

The black walnut hull had and is killing the baby heartworm larve and we only had adult heartword pieces in the heartworm ( blood test ).Zeus only lost 2lbs during this period. The vet could not recommend how many mg. to give your dog, but what we were doing is WORKING. Right now our English Mastiff is Taking 400mg of wormwood black walnut complex. His weight is 146lbs. 5 days of meds. 3 days off, with no side effect.

Here's something important that everybody should know because I ask the vet this. Will dead heart worms still make the blood draw from your dog still test positive? Yes it will. When heart worms die, they travel down into the lungs, it is normal for your dog to pant and sneeze. sneezing is a lot better, it removes the worms from the lungs faster. Zeus, is back eating like a small horse. we put his meds in a piece of cheese and he loves it. this treatment may take a little longer, but it's all natural and there's no ARSENIC. Zeus runs and plays outside. It's important that you watch carefully for side affects, diarrhea, vomiting, change your doses. I can't tell the doses for your dog.Bbut the products I've mention are working for us. Just be careful

So, how are your doggies are now?

Could you tell me how much and how often please?

Please help. My Dachshund was diagnosed with heartworms. I got the dropper bottle today (finally). I really need to know the dosage and length of treatment. She is 17 pounds.

Look at heart worm treatment page- there is a lot of info, I just completed treating my dog - will know whether it worked in about 3 months, after reading a lot, I decided to use VRM2 and HSSII plus Kidney support Tian Wang Pu Hsin Wan (recommended in Sheryl Schwarz book Four Paws Five Directions)

How much Black walnut and wormwood tincture to give 4 lb chihuahua dog for heart worm treatment?

I am from philippines I lost my dog last year because of heartworm nw I have adopted dog abandun by owner and found out he has heartworm I do d searching on net and hr I found you site how can I get this home remidies can I buy this wormwoods and black walnut tinctures in my country.. what store to get..thank you. I am an animal lover every night heard my dog coughing made my night horrible and feel crying for my dog.

The Natural Heartworm Preventative Program consists of three products:
Artemisia Combination - This is used like a monthly de-wormer.

HSII - This is used to keep the heart strong. It can be given every few days or at least once a week.

Black Walnut - This is a great nutrition booster helping metabolism and keeping the animal less desireable by parasites [fleas, ticks, and mosquitoes].
Artemisia Combo

This product combines elecampane root with two species of Artemisia, mugwort and wormwood, to provide an exceptionally powerful herbal formula. Artemisia has a long history of use in China, Europe, and the U.S. for its antiparasitic qualities. Artemisia is believed to create an unfavorable environment for parasites.
Ingredients: Proprietary blend 780 mg * Elecampane Root (Inula helenium) Mugwort Herb (Artemisia vulgaris) Clove Flower Buds (Eugenia caryophyllata) Garlic Bulb (Allium sativum) Ginger Root (Zingiber officinale) Spearmint Herb (Mentha spicata) Turmeric Root (Curcuma longa) Olive Leaf (Olea europa) Wormwood Herb (Artemisia annua) *Daily Value not established Other Ingredients: Cellulose (plant fiber), magnesium stearate (vegetable), silicon dioxide (powdered silica), gelatin, and water.

Black Walnut

Black Walnut is used as an astringent because it is rich in tannin, a toning substance. Black Walnut is famous for it's cleansing properties and has been used to treat worms. Ingredients: Black Walnut Hulls (Green Hulls) (Juglans nigra) 1000 mg* *Daily Value not established Other Ingredients: Magnesium stearate (vegetable), silicon dioxide (powdered silica), kosher gelatin, and water.

HSII

HS II is a combination designed for support to the circulatory system, containing: hawthorn berries, capsicum and garlic. Hawthorn berries is used to strengthen and tone the heart, feed the adrenals, cleanse arteries, and has been known to balance blood pressure. Capsicum has long been used as a way to boost circulation and cleanse the body. Recent studies have shown garlic to be of benefit to the digestive, circulatory and immune systems. Ingredients: Proprietary blend 920 mg* Hawthorn Berries (Crataegus oxyacanthoides) Capsicum Fruit (Capsicum annuum) Garlic Bulb (Allium sativum) *Daily Value not established

Other Ingredients: Gelatin and water.

Heartworm prevention requires a multi-faceted approach which includes not exposing your dog to mosquitoes as much as possible. I've been successful with a preventative program, but would not recommend this for dogs who are kept outside because they have increased exposure and are thus at higher risk.
I do not recommend people go off their heartworm medications unless they agree to do so with their vet. There are plenty of alternative or holistic veterinarians for you to consult with.

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Prevention Program Guideline for weight: *Under 5 lbs - 1/4 capsule Artemisia, 1/8 ml of Black Walnut Liquid Extract (2 to 5 drops) and ½ capsule HSII *10-25 lbs - 2 capsules Artemisia, 1/4 ml Black Walnut Liquid Extract (5 to 7 drops) and 1 capsule HSII *25-50 lbs - 2-3 capsules Artemisia, 1/2 ml Black Walnut Liquid Extract (10 to 15 drops), and 1 to 2 capsules HSII *50 lbs and over - 3 capsules Artemisia, 1 ml Black Walnut (20 to 25 drops), and 2 to 3 capsules HSII *100 lbs and over - simply double the *50 lbs and over instruction above

During the first week of each month [for 7 days]: Based on a 12-15 pound dog (adjust accordingly)
One (1) Artemesia first thing in the morning and one (1) in the evening [as close to 12 hours apart as possible] on an empty stomach [as much as possible] so the properties have a chance to kill parasites without having to be blended with a full meal. Most dogs have no problems with this formula on an empty stomach. If your dog does, you can give as much food as necessary with it, but this is a rare necessity. This is like a monthly de-wormer.
One (1) HSII every few days or at least once a month. This is used to keep the heart strong.
1/4 ml Black Walnut Liquid Extract (5 to 7 drops), sprinkled over food, daily or given orally!
Given all month long:
Four to five (4-5) days each week, I put 1 to 1-1/2 ml Liquid Black Walnut in their drinking water.
On the average, the heartworm program should last approximately 2 to 3 months for a 50 lb. dog! There are 100 Capsules of Artemisia Combination; 100 Capsules of HS II, and 59 ml Black Walnut Extract.

I've found that most pets like Black Walnut Extract. A little bit of Black Walnut goes a long way, so be sure to adjust this according to weight like the rest of the program.

Another thing to consider is if you are in a climate area that has a winter and a period of time where there are no mosquitoes. Vets generally do not tell you to use heartworm medication at that time of the year. I don't bother to use the spritzer at that time of the year, but I still do the herbal program because Black Walnut is such a healthy supplement and the Artemisia keeps keep them parasite free.

Please use wisdom and common sense in deciding whether the natural approach is for you and your pet family. Since the herbal way is less expensive than the drugs, please be sure you make the investment to have your dog tested annually.
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Hello, I am needing some advice, I have a APBT that is 3 years old. I have never had her on any heartworm preventative nor have I ever had her tested. She is in the early stages of Autoimmunity, which the doctor's give no advice on. I have her on Nutro and Kauffman's Canine Coat and Skin Supplement for her sebaceous adenitis. Is it okay to start the Natural heartworm preventative (Black walnut, Artemisia Combinatio & HSII) If she has never been tested?

How much did you give to your dog per day and where did you buy it? Please help!

I have 3 dogs. All indoors. They were all on Heartworm prevention. One day my black lab was outside in the evening hours without protection and boom. A freak mosquito attack on my dog who is all black with thick black hair. I didn't notice any mosquitoes until it was to late. He's 13 and he has survived Heartworm. He was tested negative last month - HURRAY!! And now we are successfully treating the damage. In order to do this I had to use Doxycycline antibiotic therapy. I kept him in the house and gave him Tri Heart Plus even though he had Heartworm because I thought it would kill the eggs and female worms during the dormant/cold fall- winter months. Now he is on Cephalexin which is free at my grocery store pharmacy with a list of other free drugs. Miinocycline, diuretic and vasodilator. I keep his hair clipped short and give him plenty of water. He is a brand new dog! Value Vet is wonderful. They decided to treat his issues first and in doing so we killed off the heartworms. He will remain on the diuretic for the rest of his life. It's cheap. Costco sells an inexpensive Kirkland - flea, tick and mosquito serum. 6 month supply for $20. It has same benefits as K9 Advantax II. Tri-Heart Plus is a must. 6 months for as low as $35. It is safe prevention. I suppose there is nothing wrong with holistic. But I would only use it after an antibiotic regiment. The Vet Bill was only $220 for the year. $289 with the confirmative X-ray. VALUE VET ROCKS!

I think you should show your pet some compassion.... He sounds like he is in pain. Talk to your baby and let him/her go.

Hi! My Johnnie is a 4-yr-old chinese pug. He was diagnosed last 1/8/11 with heart failure, fluid retention in the abdomen due to heartworm. Vet bills are so expensive. I would like for him to live more, the vet talked to me about euthanasia, I insisted for him to go home with medications. He is on furosemide and cipro. His belly is getting bigger everyday. I need help on how to treat his heartworm. It hurts me everyday to see him suffering with his labored breathing. I have to carry him each time he will urinate because he is so short of breath.

Use one black walnut capsule, they sell it on the organic and vitamin stores. Depends on weight, you can use the half, for 35 or more use one capsule , for less open the capsule, you can spread on a piece of meat or something that the dog can eat easily, used for a week. It is wonderful! You will see the results in a few days. Good luck and God bless for loving the animals.

i open the pill up and place it in my dogs water bowl. Make sure you put enough water in the bowl so it completely dissolves. After our short walk he is ready to come home and have a nice refreshing drink of water. I know how it feels for a vet to tell you that your pet has heartworms and if you dont do it the way they tell you he will die but yet they only tell you they have a 50/50 chance of making it through the chemical treatment. I was told if I didn't do the treatment they wanted he would not live past 30 days. When I mentioned the herbal treatment and I was told they would not see him anymore if I went that way. I am happy to say it is 5 yrs later and he is a happy pitbull. Also he has not returned to the mentioned vets office.

Check out www.naturalrearing.com for information on all sorts of maladies & treatments, including heartworm. They have all sorts of herbs & homeopathic protocols.

When dealing with anything concerning the heart, don't forget to include CQ10 & Hawthorne (Flora is a good brand). These are good for any dog, strengthens heart.

I have read this entire string and have only seen one post stating their dog has been cured of heartworms by this treatment. I too just learned of my 2YO boxer is heartworm positive. Like the rest of you I don't accept or face that I have to give her this horrible vet recommended treatment.

***I just want to hear more people say this treatment works***

Please post any results you've had.

I used the black walnut and wormwood on my pitbull and he seemes to be better my vet said he would only make it 3 to 5 months and that was 9 months ago I have not taken him back to be retested yet I am not going back to the same vet because I don't trust him to be honest since I used a home remedy that he said would not work... I am not saying that it did work because I don't know for sure all I do know is he is acting like his normal self again and eating good and picked up his weight.

Small world Trudy. I also live in Lacombe, La. You probably have seen me riding my three dogs around in an old blue pickemup truck. I just give my dogs garlic. I buy it at WallyWorld in a jar. All my dogs have lived long lives. I also eat plenty of garlic and I have no worms, fleas or girlfriends. (could it be the garlic?) STM (smiling to myself) Take care.

Because my Maltese x has a bladder tumor it has become imperitive to rid him of parasites all of them. So I'll be using Dr. Clarke's protocol, just Google CURE FOR EVERY CANCER. Secondly I had to put him on a strict diet of raw grass fed meat (ground) with a steamed mash of carrots, celery, brocolli, brussels sprouts, apples, cauliflower & 4 cloves of garlic, he has the same vegies with organic cooked chicken for the night meal. Please EVERYONE read PET FOODS EXPOSED it might help with a lot of problems we face with sick dogs. Along with the diet he has a capsule of BETAGLUCAN in little warm milk of a morning & DHA from BioCueticals, our animals do not get enough Omega 3s. Be careful of any fish oil, lots of heavy metals. Also he is on medicinal mushrooms (K9Immunity) to boost the immune system. I hope this might help someone, it has certainly helped my, Andy should be on his last breath by now, but thank the Lord he's still himself, no weight loss or drop in energy. Now when I'm cooking up a storm in the kitchen, my husband thinks it's for him but it's for the dog.

Please help me. I just had to put my 10 year old black Lab/Pitt mix (had him all 10 years) down because of bone marrow cancer. No symptoms, except for limp in front leg which was misdiagnosed (by vet) as arthritis.

I also foster rescues and I am fostering a teacup chihuahua that has been diagnosed with heartworms. I was going to give this one away, but now I think I will keep her. I do need help though as to what to do for the heartworms. I am treating her with the

She only weighs 3 lbs. and has the slight cough. Lack of weight could be attributed to the fact that we found her running on the street and do not know how long she has been on the street. Vet says that she is not a puppy because of missing teeth and it seems she has had puppies. The instructions on the packet call for 10 lb. (1 drop/3 X a day) dogs and up. Should I just give her 1 drop in her food in the morning? Any and all help will be appreciated. Thanks and may God bless.

I would only give her 1 drop.

Thanks for alls input my 85 pound 1/2 rotty 1/2 timber 10 1/2 years was just diagnosed with heartworms vet put him on prednisose and a blood pressure reducer nothing for the heartworms thanks to all of your input he is now on 15 drops each of black walnut hull extract and woodworm (HERBALS) twice daily i will keep all posted I really hope this works

Please let me know how the treatment worked for your dog. My lab mix was just diagnosed with heartworms this morning. I plan to try the Black Walnut/Wormwood complex tincture and will let you know when I take him in for a recheck in a few months. Thanks for the input.

Hi, Randy from Belmont, NC, I would watch the steroid use. I have one dog, who is a rottie/shep mix, and he has been on/off steroids for several years. I have had no problems with him, but he still has itching problems and hair loss. My other dog is a lab/boxer mix. He has been on the steroids very rarely until recently the vet put him on a continual run to try to clear up a skin allergy issue. He started having seizures after two months. He is having at least one a week, and the vet is not sure why. He is 9 so the vet said it could just be debilitation from old age. I have to think it is related to the steroid use. I did research on the internet and found a site where the doctor said pred steroid use can cause "an increased susceptibility to seizures". I have taken him off the pred and putting him back on the antihistamines. Now, my other dog, who is 8 so almost the same age, has not had these problems. He has taken them much more so possibly it has something to do with the breed. Then again maybe my 9 year old does have another underlying condition, but I have stopped his steroid use nonetheless in hopes his seizures may stop.

I am SO glad I came upon this website!! My dog was recently diagnosed with heartworms, and I prefer not to use the vets treatment. I have started him on the black walnut/wormwood/cloves mixture, but not too sure as to how much. He weighs 80 lbs., I read somewhere to give 1 drop of black walnut per 10 lbs. body weight, is this correct? The wormwood and cloves are in capsule form and was suggested to just give a pinch. Any input would be greatly appreciated! Thanks :)

ITCHY SKIN/ALLERGIES

It's most likely the food you are feeding. Could be environmental. My G Shepherd always developes crusty lips, gooey ears & scabs around her neck & rump if I feed her ANY commercial food. Even the "grain free".

When I feed her ONLY raw meat/bones she clears up totally.

Hate this economy that makes me have to resort to the occasional commercial food meal. I can really tell a difference. It upsets both of my Sheps stomachs.

Many thanks to all of you on behalf of my 8 yr old beagle! He improved from mid-stage heartworm symptoms about 10 days into the NOW "Fresh Green Black Walnut Wormwood Complex". At 25 lbs (he had lost 4 lbs in 3 prior months), I gave him 2 droppers with breakfast and the 1 garlic clove with dinner. I tried the 3 weeks on & 1 week off, but he had some lethargy and reduced appetite by the end of that week. So we are back to the every day routine. Now after 2 months of this, he's back to playing, going for walks and sleeping like a middle aged guy! BTW I have him on Nutrisca dry, adding raw vegs each meal plus any occasional cooked chicken or fish I have.

I also want to say when this was at its worst and he was so weak I found that 1/2 organic chicken broth with warm distilled water kept him hydrated & interested.

Has anyone heard of the supplement called Paragon for treating heartworms? It has black walnut, cloves, wormwood, and more in a tincture and supplement combo available at a health food store - thanks!

Hey Pat!

Para-gone and Candi-gone both look like great items to have in the tool kit.

That said, I would hesitate to dose Paragone for canine heartworms sans a heatworm test. You want to know before hand if your dog has an infection prior to dosing as a HW+ dog might require a different dosage or dosing schedule.

How long is black walnut wormwood given?

Hi there, I'm looking for a remedy for my dog. He is a chocolate lab 5 years old. He got diagnosed with heart worms 5 months ago. He had the heart worm treatment done on him but now his dry cough is back. I wouldn't want to put him through the treatment again. Aside from it being very expensive, it is painful for him. I would like to try the black walnut woodworm and garlic on him but would like more information about it. He weighs 85 lbs. Thank you in advance!

Does your friend know if it will get rid of heartworms if a dog already has them?

Does garlic work on cats with heartworm and if so we're do I get the garlic caps from?

Hello I have a 5 year old pit bull and she has a heart worm test and was positive. That requested that I bring her in for another test before administering treatment. From what they told me the treatment is very painful and long. I read a lot of what's in the articles and reviews that you've all written but does garlic really work because I thought garlic was toxic to dogs. Thank you.

Hello George,

In general garlic used for health or medicinal purposes is NOT toxic to dogs - so feel free to feed your dog a clove of raw garlic with each meal. As for treating heartworm, that is trickier and probably will not be effective at all. There are inexpensive ways to treat heartworm but you need to read up and educate yourself. I generally avoid posting links because I do not want to drive traffic to other sites, but this is a very good read and too lengthy to excerpt here:

http://www.oc-paw.com/HEART-WORM-TREATMENT.html

Good luck and let us know what you choose to do!

Hi, replying to see if the garlic also helped your dog! My lil baby has exactly what I'm reading yours has. I just gave her and my other 2 Clive garlic! Lil Suahi has the heartworms and her bones are like you say yours is. My Sushi is 11. I have faith!

This is very helpful thanks!!!!

Actual garlic you put in human food can kill heartworms.