BHT is an initialism for butylated hydroxytoluene, a lab-created antioxidant that is often added to foods for use as a preservative, but it also is used as a home remedy for cold sores and herpes in general. The chemical is a fat-soluble organic compound closely related to vitamin E and is considered generally safe as a food additive; however, medicinal doses are much higher than that found in foods, and some have reported links between BHT and both hyperactivity in children and cancer development.
As a complementary therapy, BHT is regarded as a strong antiviral and antioxidant, especially when used in tandem with Vitamin C and L-lysine.
Home Remedies: Applied directly to a cold sore, BHT is said to speed healing by attacking the herpes virus. It is also sometimes used internally (capsule form) for treatment of AIDS symptoms or the various herpes conditions.
Our readers offer information and opinions on Earth Clinic, not as a substitute for professional medical prevention, diagnosis, or treatment. Please consult with your physician, pharmacist, or health care provider before taking any home remedies or supplements or following any treatment suggested by anyone on this site. Only your health care provider, personal physician, or pharmacist can provide you with advice on what is safe and effective for your unique needs or diagnose your particular medical history.
|Hepatitis C||6 YEAS|
12/15/2012: Oscar from Syracuse, New York, Usa: "We people over at the BHT cures group have come up with some important discoveries regarding the BHT treatment for hepatitis B and C. From the feedback available here at the EARTH CLINIC and over at the BHT CURES GROUP:
1. Do not mix or use other treatments and supplements including: milk thistle and it`s extracts and also do not drink grapefruit juice for best results. Taking vitamins in moderate dosages seems to be helpful. I know that may sound screwy to many people out there but that is what the feedback indicates. That grapefruit juice interacts with a very many drugs or medications in sometimes fatal ways. Most especially with statin drugs and many pain medications. The list of things grapefruit juice negatively impacts is amazingly long. And, the milk thistle seems to make the treatment not work very well.
2. The people showing the most dramatic improvement are using a dose of between 200mg and 350mg taken twice a day, in the morning and at night with water on an empty stomach. Not every one can tolerate that much but most adults can. For those that can`t the treatment simply takes longer but still works with smaller dosages.
For more information about BHT to treat hepatitis viruses go to: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/BHTcures/
But please do report your experience with this treatment here at the EARTH CLINIC.
Also and importantly: Anyone wishing to try this treatment needs to test themselves regarding sensitivity to BHT. Start with very low dosages and see how it effects you. Generally most people tolerate between 200mg and 700mg of BHT per day well, but not everyone. Those capsules can be easily sperated and smaller doses created by removing some of the contents of those capsules....Oscar"Replies
01/08/2013: Luke from London, UK replies: "Dear Oscar, I am very new to this forum and having read all the posts I cannot belive that there is a cure for Hepatitis B. Over the years I have been told a number of times by many doctors that I have to live with this virus for the rest of my life. I have been diagnosed with acute Hepatitis B in 2003, so it's been now nearly 10 years or more as I really do not know when I cought the virus. I would like to try the BHT treatment but do you think I have chances of clearing the virus having been infected for so long? There is a lot mentioned about possible side effects but what are these? Is there a specific diet I should follow while taking BHT? Is it recommnded to tcombine it with other supplyments like Chanca Piedra And lastly, how long should the treatment last? I would much appreciate some advise."
04/01/2013: Truthbetold from Madison, Alabama, Usa replies: "I have been following the BHT threads and find them interesting and hopeful. I am trying to determine which is better to fight; Cirrhoris or the Virus. I have HCV (over 30 years now) 1b and I have Cirrhoris (early stage). My Liver Enzymes are AST-100 ALT-150 and they have fluctuated mostly down and then back up within this range for years. My platelet count has remained between 126 and 136 for years. My PT and INR run above range also. I am 60 years old, 220lbs weight, 6'5" Tall, and can be considered in generally good health, EXCEPT for HCV and Cirrhoris.
The VA (Veterans Administration) has tried to get me to go on the Inteferon and now the new treatment for many years. They say I am a good candidate but I feel they say that to everyone. My situation puzzles me because my viral load has never been above 225, 000 and has gone as been as low as 63,000. Currently it is at 175,000. I was told that viral load in my case has nothing to do with the damage to the liver.
The VA (Veterans Administration) wants me to consider starting their treatment with the new 3 drug therapy in August.
So question: I noticed you indicated that Milk Thistle hinders the BHT effect. That was disappointing to me because I was using Milk Thistle to protect the liver along with Alpha Lipoic Acid and some Selium. Now if BHT is to kill the virus and it takes patience and awhile to do so, AND if Milk Thistle is very good for the Inflamation of the Liver, then how do I handle this dilema.
I need to get the inflamation under control in the liver yet I need to kill or significantly control the virus to stop the inflamation! It is like a catch 22, UNLESS there are options I have not thought of.
I have been taking BHT for about a month or two (350mg twice a day - nothing else but a big gulp of water) I did notice that my platelets went up from 129 to 136 but then the darn labs moved the reference ranges up again. So now where I would have been in the low range I am now below the low range.
Other than being tired from time to time, I feel rather healthy, but the thought of Cirrhoris that I have and the inflamation in my liver is what concerns me.
In summary, your opinion (and anyone elses) on which of the two I should focus on most [Killing the HCV virus OR my Liver Inflammation?] It would be great if I could work on both and I suspect someone can provide experienced input.
Lastly, often in the posts, people do not indicate if they had Acute or Chronic HCV. Maybe I overlooked some of the references, but since Acute can come and go over various time limits, it would be helpful to understand the success with Chronic HCV, in my humble opinion.
Thank you for your past input, as I have researched many of your referenced files and links and have found them helpful. I am supposed to go in another 6 months to the VA for my next lab work and I will post what happens. I am hoping that I can get some valuable input before the next scheduled treatment at the VA in August to help in my decision.
You efforts are appreciated!"
04/02/2013: Oscar from Syracuse, New York, Usa replies: "Dear Truthbetold from Madison, Alabama, I do remember you for sure. It is good hearing from you once again. I often do wonder about the different people I have been in contact with and hope they are well. I am NOT a doctor. As your doctors have told you your viral load count is very much in the low range. I notice some small improvement in that viral load count. All I can tell you is that taking milk thistle and or it`s extracts DOES make the BHT treatment much less effective. Why not give the BHT treatment a try without said milk thistle and see if that works or not. If it works you should see a dramatic drop in that viral load count in a very few months. You are relatively healthy. Stop taking milk thistle and lets see what happens. Also do NOT take vitamin E supplements. Vitamin E supplements have been proven to enhance the hepatitis C viruses` ability to replicate and should be avoided by people with hepatitis C for that reason.
Give that a try for say 3 months and if the hepatitis C is still showing up with little or no improvement then it is time to consider the NEW treatments that are in the pipeline and due to become available this year.
The good news is you are still quite healthy and have those 3 months to try the BHT treatment as recommended. If it does not work those new treatments will still be there for you. You seem to me a very strong and generally healthy person and need not be frightened. One way or another, with or without the BHT treatment you will find a treatment that works for you. I know you are a good man and will get through this one way or another....Oscar"
04/02/2013: Truthbetold from Madison, Alabama, Usa replies: "Thanks Oscar, I will do BHT daily and see what happens without Milk Thistle. I will continue to do the ALA and Selium unless someone indicates otherwise.
Inquiry: Is there more information on the impact of milk thistle on bht results from your other referenced yahoo group? I will go there if there is more current and practical results, pros and cons, being discussed by the group.
I am still interested in results from those with Acute versus Chronic HCV, that is if the people seaching this out know this about their own case. Many people may not even know. I will keep searching various sites to see if anything comes up. I have not seen anything yet.
I will keep posting and following what's going on and if I can be of any assistance please let me know. I will do what I can. "
04/02/2013: Truthbetold from Madison, Alabama, Usa replies: "Oscar, I forgot to address the liver inflammation issue. Do you or any other readers of the post know of a "good and proven" substitute for Milk thistle that will help with inflammation and liver cell regeneration? Like Boldo, Dandelion, Artichoke, etc. I just want to minimize cirrhocis damage while giving bht a valiant effort. I want to be nice to my sick liver :)."
04/04/2013: Oscar from Syracuse, New York, Usa replies: "Dear Truthbetold, I try very hard to provide the most up to date and reliable information available regarding BHT as a treatment for hepatitis C. This information is based on the feedback available from people trying this BHT treatment and a Univresity of Naples study regarding vitamins that help with this treatment. The vitamin B12 in daily doses of 1, 000mcg [ micrograms ] and the those that harm [ vitamin E because it was proven to ENHANCE the hepatitis C viruses` ability to replicate ]. Now you NEED some vitamin E. Just do not take vitamin E supplements. You get plenty enough vitamin E in a normal diet and have no need for the supplements.
Now, you have shown some small improvement with the BHT treatment while using milkthisle and or it`s extracts. You have held your own against this potentially dangerous hepatitis C infection and showed some small improvement. I do think using the BHT treatment as recommended has to be at LEAST worth a try. This milkthistle stuff greatly degrades the BHT treatment.
You asked about dandelion greens. As far as I know this has NO effect on the BHT treatment and should be OK to eat.
Now the fact that you showed some small improvement with the BHT treatment in spite of using milkthistle NOT because of it, is significant. You have been using the BHT treatment for about one year now. Most people with a hepatitis C infection get worse as time goes by, NOT in any way better.
Give the BHT treatment a try as recommmended at let us see what happens. I would be surprised if you do NOT show a dramatic improvement within a month or two. For a man your size [ over 200 pounds ] the recommended dosage of BHT is: 350mg of BHT taken twice a day, in the morning and at night with water on an empty stomach. Your freind and fellow veteran, ...Oscar"
04/04/2013: Oscar from Syracuse, New York, Usa replies: "Dear Truthbetold, You can help by joining the NEW_BHT_CURES_GROUP here:
And your continued postings here at the EARTH CLINIC. Your postings HERE are the most important. Thank you, ...Oscar"
04/06/2013: Muhammad from Nairobi, Kenya replies: "What is the best way to use raw plant of chanca piedra for treating H. B because it grows near me?"
02/09/2011: Bill from San Fernando, Luzon, Philippines: "Free Radicals, Antioxidants and Aging:
I've been having a look at aging research, what causes it and how to prevent or at least slow down the aging process. This has led me to the research of Prof Denham Harman, a famous biochemist, whose important theories and research on the use of antioxidants to prevent the effects of free radical damage are now so well accepted. But his other research conclusions appear to have been conveniently and completely ignored. From Wikipedia, describing some of the results of Dr Denham's research:
"In 1961, Harman published a study showing that the degree of polyunsaturation in fats had a dramatic effect on cancer rates in mice. The most highly polyunsaturated dietary fats were found to be the most carcinogenic.
In 1968 Harman published a dietary antioxidant study showing that the food preservative BHT fed over a lifetime to mice produced a 45% increase in life span. Harman became concerned that although many of his studies showed an increase in average lifespan by antioxidants, none showed an increase in maximum life span.
After years of frustration over his inability to increase maximum lifespan with antioxidant supplements, Harman came to the conclusion that mitochondria were producing as well as being damaged by free radicals, but that exogenous antioxidants don't enter the mitochondria. And that it is mitochondria that determine lifespan. He published his ideas on what he called the "Mitochondrial Theory of Aging" in the April 1972 issue of the Journal of the American Geriatrics Society. "
Source link: http://www.springerlink.com/content/u114t67300r8v733/
Translated, Dr Harman has proved and demonstrated by his research that:
* Vegetable oils (polyunsaturated fats) such as chemically processed canola oil (rapeseed oil), corn oil etc are not very healthy for us. Dr Harman ultimately proved outright that vegetable oils increased the risk of cancers occurring in the human body.
* From Harman's research he showed that BHT (Butylated Hydroxytoluene), a superb antioxidant, can extend the lives of mice by 45%. Dr Harman also recommended both Vitamin C and Vitamin E in the diet and in much higher dosages than recommendd by the RDA.
* He also showed that Cell Mitochondria also independently produce free-radicals in the cell as a by-product of cell energy production which, on heavy accumulation, could adversely affect and corrupt the cell nucleus DNA. These free-radicals must therefore be mopped up within the cell by sufficient daily antioxidants in human diet.
* Thus free-radical damage can occur in several areas independently -- it can occur outside the cell in the blood where free-radicals can cause oxidative damage and this can also occur independently inside the cell, causing similar damage to the nucleus DNA. Also, his research concluded that much free radical damage occurred in the brain -- a high user of energy -- leading to Alzheimer's and Dementia. His research conclusions here were that if particularly cellular mitochondrial oxidation by free radicals could be reduced overal then this would actually extend life. In light of this, Harman discovered that BHT was one of the few antioxidants that was able cross the blood/brain barrier easily to protect the brain cell mitochondria from free radical damage.
* Also of interest, I've also recently discovered that BHT occurs naturally in Humic acid deposits as well as leafy mould. BHT can also be extracted from phytoplankton.
Notably, Ted from Bangkok has always maintained that all the above is true. He also uses BHT in his well-known cancer cures and other viral remedies(against mainly lipid coated viruses) and also maintains, with very good reason, that vegetable oils (polyunsaturated oils) are all unnatural in our diet and quite bad for us."
02/28/2011: A from Canada replies: "I am amazed---someone else who thinks that BHT is a good antioxidant---it has been shot to pieces due to the overloading of it during the 60's through 80's but it is a good antioxidant---the things naturally similar are rosemary and sage each has the same potent effect of BHT or BHA which are amazing at keeping fats from oxidizing in the system--Today with all the BS on omega 3's you would need to take either bha or bht or rosemary essential oil or sage essential oil with them in order to offset the oxidation of thes omega 3 fats--no one is telling anybody this and in fact adding high doses of vitamin D with these omega 3' will cause arterial blockage of calcium and other deposits--so do not overload the omea 3's and in fact should be a 2:1 6-3 and if you are using omegas then make them walnut and add bht or bha or rosemary essential oils to this--good article
06/25/2011: Oscar from Syracuse, New York, U.s.a. replies: "Great posting Bill, I was especially happy to see your remarks about BHT occuring naturally in phytoplankton and other organisms. That was one of the reasons most often given as to why BHT was supposed to be so bad for you. So, IN FACT, BHT is no more UNNATURAL, than say milk thistle extract or any of the other plant extracts. Yes it can be extracted from certain plants. But, if you wish to use BHT now, synthetic BHT is exactly the same compound as found in the plant extracts. There is NO difference. A known compound is a known compound and it makes NO difference whether it is produced by a plant or synthetically....Oscar"
01/24/2012: Mario from Montreal, Canada replies: "Hi, I have genotype 1a HCV with AST at 71 and ALT at 111 on the date of december 1st 2011.
I began a 230 mg 3x/day BHT treatment on 18th of january. I will go for a blood test on 15th of february and I will post the result on the 23rd or around. Ciao for now. Mario"
01/26/2012: Oscar from Syracuse, New York, Usa replies: "Dear Mario from Montreal Canada, I so very much appreciate your feedback and look forward to your future test results. These blood test results are so very important. It is by way of such feedback that the most effective means of administering BHT can be established, including what is an effective and safe dosage for most people.
Your attention to detail is important and appreciated. You have established a baseline as to liver function tests at: AST= 71 and ALT=111 as of 12-1-2011. Though these readings are somewhat elevated they are in the mildly elevated range as discussed here: http://www.emedicinehealth.com/liver_blood_tests/page3_em.htm
Now: You began a 230mg of BHT taken 3 times per day. You did not mention any adverse side effects. This is of course very good. And you began this treatment on 1-18-2012. Most, though by no means all people tolerate such a dosage well with no side effects. Let me just say that if you do start experiencing adverse effects I do suggest lowering that dosage. I also do think it is a good idea to include taking 1 or 2 tablespoons of olive oil in your diet taken seperately from the BHT, NOT at the same time. This is to insure an adequate source of high quality lipids to protect against adverse side effects associated with the use of BHT. Wait at least one hour before or after taking the BHT. Hey, I expect you are an Italian and the health benefits of olive oil are well known, especially amongst the Italians. You also noted that you are infected with HCV type 1a. Your attention to detail is very important and much appreciated. Ciao, ...Oscar"
01/31/2012: Mario from Montreal, Canada replies: "Hi Oscar and thank you for all the kind support you bring to hepatitis sufferers on this site and others. I did read your posts on multiple sites and I found the rational of your testimonies to be accurate and I decided to give a try to BHT.
In the days following absorption of bht, I noticed a slight amelioration in the coloration of urine and no noticable side effects. I still need a lot of rest though. An herpes irruption who was coincidently emerging at that time disappeared.
I have to say that I was already taking others antioxidants or helpers as l-methionine, serrapeptase, nattokinase, milk rhistle, astragalus, l-proline, l-lysine, c vit. And suma wich helped to improve my condition since august whe my urine was darker and my energy at an all time low. I just added amor seco few days ago. But none of these ingredients or the sumn of it is susceptible to break the virus to the point that I would test negative in the future. So we will see.
Thanks for the link about blood test.
02/01/2012: Oscar from Syracuse, New York, USA replies: "Dear Mario, Good hearing from you. I want you to know that: Your initial response to the BHT treatments indicate the treatment is working. That darkened urine is one of the well known symptoms of liver failure. So, if your urine is returning to normal with the use of BHT, that is a very good indication that the treatment is working. Also, that disappearance of a herpes eruption is NOT a coincidence. BHT is a well known treatment for all herpes viruses. And, I am very glad to know you have no side effects. That is always my first concern with people trying this treatment: If they have side effects or not. Most people do NOT, but some do.
It does take some time as I have explained many times now for anyone to get well with this treatment. A few weeks to a few months depending on how infected and damaged a person`s liver is to begin with for one thing. Again: BHT can NOT uninfect an infected liver cell. What it does do is to prevent any unifected liver cells from becoming infected by destroying the viral particles in the blood and other intercellular fluids. And like I have said: EVERY liver cell that makes up a person`s liver is a new cell about every year or so.
So: if no new cells become infected a true cure eventually does occur. This does take years of daily dosing with BHT and I am sure it varies from person to person. This is because the BHT is NOT 100% effective in destroying all the viral particles. Some of these viral particles will remain intact and go on to infect other liver cells. But as time goes by with daily dosing with BHT: Less and less of the liver cells are infected and more and more of them are uninfected. But you can live a perfectly normal and healthy life as this process goes on once enough of your liver is healthy and functioning adequately. So, there is no big hurry. I say that because you can definately take too much BHT in hopes of getting truly cured more quickly. People need to find a dose that is both safe and effective and this dose does vary from person to person.
So: You are off to or with a good start: You found a dose that is effective and is not causing adverse effects. Keep the forum and me updated with your progress. Ciao, ...Oscar"
02/01/2012: Dave from Wayne, Nj replies: "Hello Oscar and all. I'm now 25 days into 350mg BHT twice a day on an empty stomach, usually about 4:30 am and 4:30 pm. By last Wednesday I was convinced that BHT was a miracle drug. My stools had returned almost completely to normal and my urine had been normal for 10 days straight or so. My energy and focus had also returned to normal after months of problems.
Unfortunately though, I went through a down turn as my symptoms returned with my urine darker and my bowels light colored and loose. What conspicuously did not happen was a loss of energy and focus. I still felt great. After about three days of worsening symptoms things slowly started getting better. As of today I am not back to where I was last Wed. But I think things are going in the right direction.
Is this common? Are there ups and downs symptom wise? I had been reading about thin people (me) needing to take a tablespoonful of olive oil and did just that last Wed. Night and wonder if it may have had something to do with what happened or not. Any advise would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for all the help. Good luck everybody."
02/03/2012: Oscar from Syracuse, New York, Usa replies: "Dear Dave from Wayne NJ, Thank you so very much for your instructive feedback. Look, this BHT really does work as you are finding out for yourself. Now the reason I advised thin people to include 1 to 2 tablespoons of olive oil in their diets was because many of these thin people have reported negative side effects: most often some nervous condition and BHT does interact with lipids, and all neurons are sheathed with lipids.
But, from your statement: You were NOT experiencing any such side effects and was responding very well to the BHT treatments prior to adding the olive oil to your diet. So for you: Go back to taking the BHT without the olive oil in your diet until and unless you start experiencing any nervous system disorders. And NEVER mix or take the BHT at the same time as olive oil or any other oil. Stick with what works best. It seems to me you do NOT need or desire the addition of olive oil to your diet, at least for now. If you do start experiencing nervous disorders you might want to try one tablespoon of olive oil every other day and see how that works for you.
Now when I was really sick with hepatitis C I did not take any olive oil or any other oil. I was lean but not thin. I weighed about 175 pounds and am about 6 feet tall. The digestion of all fats and oils do require bile salts and other things produced in the liver. This may account for this set back in this your BHT therapy. I do NOT have all the answers for each and every person regarding the use of BHT to treat hepatitis C. Hopefully, with the feedback that you and others are providing we can answer these questions and come up with some meaningful guide lines.
I wish I had reliable answers for each and every person trying this BHT therapy, but I do not at this time. For now and for you I will say go back to what was working very well for you and stop taking the olive oil at least for now and let us see how that works for you. You are getting well and the BHT therapy is working. We just need to establish and stick with what works best for you. You may very well wish to include some olive oil in your diet as your liver function improves and you may already be there. I do NOT know.
Do not get overly concerned about some minor set back. You tolerate the BHT very well and it is working for you. And please: keep me and this forum updated as to your progress along with any setbacks or problems you may experience. This is the ONLY way there is to answer these questions, with feedback.
So, for now: If no adverse side effects are experienced with the use of BHT I advise against the addition of any sort oil to a person`s diet in the first 2 months of treatment because all fats and oils do put an additional demand on the liver. I do NOT mean a person should avoid all fats and oils. A healthy source of lipids is essential to a healthy diet. Simply do NOT add that extra tablespoon of olive oil if and only if no previous nervous condition developes with the use of BHT. I do NOT have all the answers. You have to find out what works best for you....Oscar"
02/09/2012: Dave from Wayne, Nj replies: "Dear Oscar and everyone,
Today marks 34 days of twice a day 350mg BHT for me. Last fall I was very sick. My doctor had blood work done to see just how bad things were in mid October. My viral load, which has always been high, was 23,000,000!! The highest it had been before was 12,000,000 or so. My ALT and AST were always just above normal but last October were AST 203, ALT 155.
Unfortunately it took until late December to discover this web site (thanks to my wife) and Oscar's posts on BHT. I started taking the BHT January 6th, 2012. That is not long ago. I had blood work done February 6th and got the results today. I know that Hep C viral loads fluctuate and my new numbers my reflect some fluctuation but, my new viral load as of Monday this week is 5,000,000. Seems to be quite a drop to be only a fluctuation. My Doctor is apprehensive but supportive. AST and ALT were not as impressive at 132 and 128 but encouraging enough.
I am convinced this is working. I seem to get the best results physically when I do not add other supplements to my daily routine. I have been on Prevacid for three years and find that I don't need it much any more. I have taken one pill every 6 or so days for the last three weeks. Coincidence? I don't know.
There are days when my urine is a little dark and my stools are not entirely normal day to day but the difference from last fall to now, after one month of BHT, is thrilling. We bought 9 bottles with a 50 day supply in each and are in it for the long haul. I encourage anyone who knows someone with hepC to expose them to this site and Oscar's work. I personally cannot thank him enough.
God bless, Dave"
02/10/2012: Oscar from Syracuse, New York, Usa replies: "Dear Dave from Wayne, NJ, Thank you for this important update. It is only with such feedback as yours that the methodology of BHT as a teatment for hepatitis C can be worked out. So, again I thank you.
Now those are impressive numbers, the sort of response that indicates the BHT treatment is working and is similar to what some of the others I discussed in the past have experienced including myself. Your viral load is less than 1/4 th of what it was prior to the BHT treatments and there is some small improvement in liver function in about one month of the BHT treatments. Those are very impressive results from a person who had a very a very infected liver with idications that the infection was getting far worse rapidly. You have turned all that around and are now showing dramatic improvement with the BHT treatment in only one month.
As I have said many times now it takes longer for some than others to get to that NO VIRUS DETECTED status. In my opinion your initial response is a very good one considering everything. Just keep doing what you are. You are winning this battle. Your liver is healing itself with the use of BHT. This BHT stuff realy does work.
Dave, it is very important that you keep this forum upated regarding your progress with the use of BHT as a treatment for hepatitis C. There is NO other big forum taking a serious interest in this. But there is a Yahoo discussion group about all this recently started by Victoria, a member of this forum and I am a member of that group and one of the moderators of that forum. I do encourage you to join that discussion group. Victoria and me are trying to do what we can to promote this life saving information along with this forum`s efforts. Your participation in that forum would be helpful. Here is a link to that Yahoo discussion group if you choose to join it: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/BHTcures/
Now, it is not our intention to in any way compete with THE CONTACT EARTH CLINIC, but rather provide a discussion group for those using the BHT treatment to compare notes and such. The CONTACT EARTH CLINIC is the big forum and by all means report your progress here in THIS forum first and foremost. But your participation in this discussion group would be appreciated....Oscar"
02/15/2012: Dennis from State College, Pennsylvannia, USA replies: "I was diagnosed with Hep C and HPV. The HPV turned into cancer and I had it surgically remove. My girl found info on BHT used as an antiviral and we started taking it together as she now has the HPV virus with the warts as well. We both started a regimen of BHT, started 1/8/12 taking 350 mg daily and slowly increasing the dosage to 700 mg twice daily. It has been a little over 1 month now and her urine has turned dark so we are cutting back to only 350 mg twice daily.
We have also been taking Milk Thistle to protect the liver as well as L-lysine, astragalus, alpha lipoic acid , grape seed extract, 1000mg of Vit E, 3000 mg of Vit C, 1000mg. Vit D-3, whey protein mix with amino acids added, olive leaf, turmeric or curcumin and recently we added di-indolymethane(DIM) which has shown to totally cure Stage 3 cervical cancer which my girl is concerned about. We eat extremely healthy (lots of colorful veggies and minimal amounts of lean meats).
I tried to discuss this regimen with my Dr. who wants to start me on interferon treatment for the Hep C in June after my follow up with the cancer surgeon. I am not sure that I am interested in the interferon as I have read about the possible side effects, however apparently it can cure the body of the Hep C with no antibodies showing in final testing. My Dr. said we might as well drink Clorox if we were going to take BHT. How can I find a Dr. who will support our choice to use BHT and provide the necessary blood work to see if it is working. My girl said that it appears that one of the warts ( on the outside ) seems to be gone, but still has several just inside the vagina. We hope that we are providing our bodies with an appropriate regimen however would appreciate any input and references for how to locate a Dr. who would support our choices."
02/15/2012: Oscar from Syracuse, New York, Usa replies: "Dear Denis from State College Penn. , My immediate response is: Easy does it here. From the feedback available one 350mg capsule of BHT taken twice a day is the MOST or maximum dose for average size adults. Taking more is NOT better. Also, NEVER take BHT with, at the same time as, ANY other supplement. BHT needs to be taken seperately and on an empty stomach with water only.
I understand you two are freaked out. You have to use self control here. Just calm down, you CAN do that. Now, this mixing of everything you have read of, about together is NOT a good way to go.
Also, you did mention a doctor who wants to prescribe one of the interferon treatments. There are some new drugs that have been added to the interferon plus ribaviron treatment with significant improvement indicated.
Have you tried any of the interferon plus treatments at this time ? If so what were the results ?
I am wary of these treatments but they do work for many people.
For right now: lower the dosage of BHT to no more than 350mg of BHT taken twice a day and see if any improvement is shown in the liver function tests and the viral load counts.
Regarding the other supplements: Do NOT mega dose on any of them.
BHT seems to work very well all by itself if taken in the dosages I have discussed. I am trying to be helpful. If you choose to continue the BHT treatments: Lower the dosge to no more than 350mg of BHT taken twice a day and do not mega dose on any other supplement for at least 3 weeks and see if there is some improvement or not. It seems to me you are mega dosing on those vitamins you stated.
From my experience and the growing feedback available: The BHT works very well by itself. Also that megadosing with vitamins and other supplements does NOT help at all while using the BHT treatment. Please do read what Dave from New Jersy has to say and fatcha brute and january and Gina and Victori and toad and Teru and me. All of us had dramatic improvement with NO megadosing with anything. Teru and fatcha brute for HPV [ genital warts ] ...Oscar"
02/16/2012: Bht For Hsv from Greenville, Sc replies: "Hi! From my understanding, it will depend on what brand of BHT one is taking. Most brands of BHT states to take it with your meal that has the most fat (such as lunch or dinner), is this incorrect? Does it really work better with only water?"
02/17/2012: Oscar from Syracuse, New York, Usa replies: "Dear Bht for Hsv from Greenville S. C. , Well, in my opinion based on my experience and the experience of those reporting into this forum: Ii is best to take the BHT with water and on an empty stomach. Also it has been brought to my attention that HPV [ human papillomavirus ] is not a lipid coated virus. And yet the two people I know of who tried the BHT for HPV did report a very dramitic improvement in 4 weeks of treatment. So the BHT does seem to work for HPV also.
Now there is an explanation for that. ALL proteins are very dependent upon hydrogen bonds to hold their stuctures together. A simplified but accurate way of looking at what proteins are is: Branched and unbranched strings of amino acids. Now these strings of amino acids stucture is highly dependent on said hydrogen bonds. When these proteins are placed in a nonpolar liquid such as carbon tetra-chloride these protiens become denatured. They lose their structure or shape. The covalent bonds are NOT broken and yet these proteins collapse because these hydrogen bonds disappear in a non polar liquid. Now what BHT and its metabolies do is to very much disrupt these hydrogen bonds and thereby denature at least some proteins in certain protein coated viruses enough to destroy at least some proteine coated viruses including at least some HPV viruses.
Also, BHT is BHT. There is no specific brand. It, BHT is the accepted name of a specific compound [ butylated hydroxytoluene ]. It is a historic or trivial name, but that is what it is called....Oscar"
02/23/2012: Mario from Montreal, Canada replies: "Hi Oscar, As I expected, I received my blood test result today and my AST passed from 71 to 81 and mt ALT from 111 to 115. But, generally I feel better with up and down less dramatic than before. If I compare with the state I was in august and september there is a huge improvement, I would say.
The first kick followed Ted's treatment suggestion with Lysine and completed by supplementation with other antioxydants, that I began in late september. Urine was still a bit dark by end of october but less and chronic fatigue was a bit less heavy.
Now, since I began BHT on 18th of january, my alertness improved, my urine is generally clear with only few brownish reminders once a while. I now continue the BHT treatment as 350 mg X 2 times a day on empty stomach and will have another blood test to report the 22nd of march. But this time my doctor, who is by no mean familiar with HCV is asking RT-PCR qualitative and quantitative tests. I imagine These are the test that tell if the virus can be count by hundreds or by millions?
Anyway, the S/CO ratio passed from 161. 89 in october to 131. 03 in february. I don't know if this means little or big improvement, but I keep on.
02/23/2012: Oscar from Syracuse, New York, Usa replies: "Dear Mario, Well, let us see here: You have been on the BHT treatment for a little over than one month now. Those ALT and AST results show NO improvement. When were the first tests done? Also those numbers are elevated but still in the mildly elevated ranges. You do state you are feeling better and your urine is improved. The ALT and AST numbers change is so small that no conclusion good or bad can be drawn, or assumed from them. Basically NO CHANGE in those numbers. That is likely to be consistent with what your doctor told you.
I don`t know what to tell you Mario. You are feeling better and your urine is showing improvement. Perhaps you are at the tipping point where some real improvement can or will be shown in your next tests. I sure do hope so....Oscar"
02/23/2012: Oscar from Syracuse, New York, Usa replies: "Follow up posting to Mario: That S/CO ratio test is NOT a viral load count test. It is is a test that shows the ratio of anti-bodies to viral particles and it is not clear to me that it is relevant to hepatitis C. It seems to be an experimental test that has NOT shown itself to be a reliable one at this time. And any change in the numbers was so small as to be irrelavant.
Also, I do not know exactly when the first ALT and AST tests were done. And THOSE numbers are in the mildly elevated zone. I do think we have now established a baseline and that the next tests will be a lot more relevant. You feel better and your urine is now normal. Let us see what the next tests show. This treatment does take longer for some than others....Oscar"
02/24/2012: Mario from Montreal, Canada replies: "My previous test was from december, before I began BHT. The second one 28 days after beginning treatment. Ciao for now. Mario"
11/20/2012: Rave from Los Angeles, Ca replies: "This is for Oscar but anyone can share their feedback. Is BHT effective with Hepatitis B as it was with C? I already bought a bottle of 250mg 500 capsules from Amazon.com. How much dosage/capsule(s) should I take per day. How long before I can get the undetectable results? Also, I brew my own Olive Leaf Extract water which also is effective against the virus, can I take BHT and push it down with OLE instead of regular water or does it really have to be water? Also, can I drink OLE right after BHT or do I have to wait an hour? Thanks for the feedback."
11/21/2012: Oscar from Syracuse, New York, Usa replies: "Dear Rave from LA, For me, Oscar: The BHT did work for Hepatitis B as it also did for hepatitis C. And, from the feedback available: A gulp of water is what works best to wash the BHT down with. The dosages used vary for different people. At this time: 350mg taken twice a day is the MAXIMUM dosage recommended. Many if not most people are achieving very good results with less than 350mg taken twice a day. That is with water on an empty stomach.
I now test negative for HBV and HCV as of 2006 with the antibodies test. It is as if I was never exposed to both of those viral diseases. Up until at least 1998 I tested positive for both. I do recommend joining the BHT CURES GROUP here to stay up to date on all of the different people`s reports: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/BHTcures/
Also, for most people: A hepatitis B infection is quite different than a HCV infection. The usual pattern for HBV is that you get sick within a week or so and either survive it or you do not. Most people do survive. With hepatitis C you get soewhat sick soon, but recover. And then many years later as the virus eats away at your liver you get chronically and progressively sicker. Many people never do get chronically ill with HCV and many do. They are two very different diseases....Oscar"
11/21/2012: Rave from Los Angeles, California replies: "Hi Oscar, thank you so much for your quick response. I found out I have Hep B in February of this year when I was in the US Navy, I was discharged because of it. I wanted to go back in but I'd have to clear Hep B off first. I have never experienced any symptoms at all, actually, had I not joined the Navy, I wouldn't have found out about it. So you say 350mg x2/day is the maximum dosage? The dosage I got from Amazon is 250mg in capsule form, I read one of your posts on a different forum, you said you took one 200mg per day. I've been on BHT 250mg since Thursday last week. I only take one capsule every morning (an hour or more before eating anything) as that has worked for you. Do you think I should double it - one in the morning and one later in the day? You also stated that dosing depends on weight as well, I am 5'9, 150lbs. Also, I just brewed fresh batch of Olive Leaf Extract water (we have our own tree in the backyard) I should probably drink it an hour after BHT. What do you think?
Again, thank you for your quick response, I know this forum is for HC, but I posted in the HB forum and didn't get a single response, I posted there under the name of RJ, I also included there my test results."
11/21/2012: Denise from Seattle, Wa replies: "Hi Oscar, To your knowledge can or does BHT effect the lipid coating of nerves (the myelin sheath) as I have both neuropathy and hep-c? In other words, it dissolves the lipid coating of the virus... Does it effect the nerve sheath as well?
I am impressed about your postings of hep-c results... Congratulations to you for putting it up..."
11/21/2012: Oscar from Syracuse, New York, Usa replies: "Dear Rave from LA, I wish to clear up a mistake I made. Some people do develope chronic hepatitis B and it can lead to the same problems hepatitis C does. Now most people handle the hepatitis B much better than the HCV infection. Wikipedia says fully one third of all people have had hepatitis B at some point in thier lives.
The virons or viral particles are similar in structure to the HCV virons. Both have a coating made up of a bilayer of lipids with certain protein structures mixed in amongst that bilayer of lipids.
All I can say with certainty is that BHT cured me of both infections. I now test negative for both HCV and HBV using the antibodies test. That took at least two years of daily dosing with BHT for me. Now Mike [ twodragunns ] achieved a negative using the antibodies test in about 6 months for hepatitis C. That amazed even me. You can read what Mike has to say here:
[YEA] 05/27/2012: Twodragunns from London, Ontario, Canada replies: "I've been doing 2 x 250 mg daily of BHT with a splash of water on an empty stomach since Feb 1, 2012 and after 1 month all my symptoms of chronic Hep C had completely disappeared. I've just ordered 3 x 350 mg bottles from Vitamin Research Products and plan to up my dosage to 2 x 350 a day as soon as I recieve my BHT order.
I can't believe how good I feel these days and I have to thank Oscar for sharing this invaluable information with everybody that will listen and I'm sure BHT is the answer for many. I failed tx with Ribiviron daily and Peginterferon 1 injection per week back in 2008 and was a non responder after 4 months. I have genotype 1a which is very resistant to conventional therapies and had all the classic symtoms, like brain fog, joint aches and low energy, but after 4 weeks of BHT, "I feel like kid again".
I just had a blood test (5 vials taken) and they're measuring my viral load as well as all the other measures they do. I will post the results in late June after I see my MD and get the results. To all the na sayers and crap talkers that give Oscar a hard time about the validity of this treatment, "get a life and stop with the B. S. Posts that are accusing Oscar of spreading false information about this very effective treatment". I can tell it's working Oscar because all my symptoms disappeared and it's been 4 months now and I feel great!! I'm out golfing everyday (which I thought I'd never get to do again) and I'm playing very well!
Thanks again to Oscar from the bottom of my big old heart for discovering and sharing with us all this treatment that seems to be helping very many folks that have either failed conventional tx or not wanted to do this because of the catastrophic side effects. I'm going to keep posting here about my recovery from this chronic disorder and provide my medical test results as well.
kindest regards, Mike from London, Ontario, Canada"
And follow up here from Mike:
[YEA] 06/26/2012: "Got the best news I could ever ask for today, my bloodwork results are in and I no longer have any Hep C antibodies in my blood and my liver function levels are all normal. Now this is after failing conventional therapies back in 2008 and almost losing all hope of ever clearing this dreaded virus. I feel fantastic and I have to admit that BHT absolutely cures Hep C type 1a geno types when all else fails and it does it for pennies.
Anybody that comes across this post, you owe it to yourself to try this wonderful substance that has given me and so many others back our lives after thinking all was lost!! BHT works!! Thank you once again Oscar for saving me and many others by sharing BHT therapy with the masses. Cheers! "
And Mike again here with the short list of vitamins he uses:
07/30/2012: Twodragunns from London, Ontario, Canada replies: "I only take vitamin B-12 and a multi vitamin with my BHT..... I also do 20 mg of Rabeprazole for acid reflux and I was on Hydromorph Contin, but have stopped it since June 1, 2012.
I'm feeling very well Oscar and last blood work of May 16, 2012 shows me as undetectable and I had the dreaded genotype 1a!!"
Mike achieved these results using one 250mg capsule of BHT twice a day=700mg of BHT per day. Please do read what Mike has to say. He has achieved the very best results of anyone I am aware of. Mike`s statements are posted here at the EARTH CLINIC. My advice is to do what Mike did. Seems at least worth a try. And I always tell people trying the BHT treatment to lower the dosage used if adverse effects are experienced....Oscar"
11/21/2012: Oscar from Syracuse, New York, Usa replies: "Dear Denise, This issue about the possible adverse effect of BHT on nerve sheathing has come up previously. I do NOT know with any certainty if this is a serious issue or not. There are a number of people using the BHT treatment who have neuropathy to some degree. Now they had the neurapathy before ever taking BHT. My advise is to start with low dosages of BHT and see how that effects you. You can split these capsules and pour out say one half the contents and take only half a capsule per day and see if any adverse effects develope. People who wish to try this treatment have to find a dose they are comfortable with. Most people have no adverse effects with the lower dosages. 250mg per day or less. Also the B vitamins seem to help those with neuropathy. Vitamin B-12 especially so. I do NOT have all the answers. Most people respond very well to this treatment if they are careful about dosing. If adverse effects develope LOWER the dosage used....Oscar"
11/22/2012: Rave from Los Angeles, California replies: "To Oscar: Again, thank you for your impeccable timing of response. And thank you so much for the feedback, tomorrow would be one week since I started BHT, I will up the dosage tomorrow to 2 - 250mg capsules/day. Again, I can't thank you enough for the insight, I will apply all of these tips and see the outcome, I'll update you too with the test results as soon as I get them. I can't wait to be back in the US Navy!"
11/22/2012: Denise from Seattle, Wa replies: "Oscar, Thx much for the feedback..."
03/27/2013: Imready from Edgewood, Texas: "Can anyone tell me how to test for the real purity of BHT? I'd like to know that what I am using is really pure as it's supposed to be. Thanks!!"Replies
03/28/2013: Oscar from Syracuse, New York, Usa replies: "Dear Imready, Only trained chemists with access to some very expensive devises can test the purity of BHT or any other compound. It is NOT something a do it yourselfer can do.
Aside from that: How have you been doing ? I know you had a serious issue with ammonia build up in your blood. Have you experienced any improvement or not with the BHT treatment ? ...Oscar"
07/20/2012: Dimahfromme from Los Angeles, Ca, Usa: "This is to Oscar from Syracuse, New York: I would like to ask a question, I have plan to use BHT for the GW, but the problem is I can't find BHT capsules in my country. But I can get access to the bulk of BHT like pounds of it... funny!
Is there a simple way of measuring it like for 250 mg or 350 mg, for instance using fraction of teaspoon or so? Thanks for helping."Replies
07/22/2012: Oscar from Syracuse, New York, Usa replies: "Dear Dimahfromme, If you live in the USA the measured capsules of BHT should be available. But I will answer your question: 1/8th of a TEASPOON of BHT = about 350mg of BHT. Now for all those buying BHT in bulk you NEED an accurate measuring device. Here is one company that sells them and I am sure there are others. Here is a link one such company: http://fantes.com/measuring-spoons.html
11/20/2012: Rave from Los Angeles, Ca replies: "Hepatitis B as it was with C? I already bought a bottle of 250mg 500 capsules from Amazon.com. How much dosage/capsule(s) should I take per day. How long before I can get the undetectable results? Also, I brew my own Olive Leaf Extract water which also is effective against the virus, can I take BHT and push it down with OLE instead of regular water or does it really have to be water? Also, can I drink OLE right after BHT or do I have to wait an hour? Thanks for the feedback."
02/21/2012: Art. from Vancouver, Bc Canada: "HI Oscar! I have a couple of issues with taking the BHT, not serious but maybe they should be addressed for those of us who need the know if anyone can answer them.
I have been wondering about the one hour before or after eating upon taking the BHT. I have started to wait longer because I have a slow digestive system. I know this because my pain meds do not work well until two hours after I eat. So for some of us we have to extend that time period from one hour to two and a half hours. So I find it best to take it around 3-4pm while I am having my afternoon coffee. I know it is working because I feel more like my old self before I started the pegetron therapy. I find I have more energy now and don't tire as easy as I used to. The thing is since I have started taking it with coffee I am getting high anxiety in my chest the next morning around 7am. I can deal with it as I know what is happening so I use acupressure on my wrist which helps to calm me enough to get another hours sleep. We shall see how long this keeps up as I only take one 350mg cap in the afternoon. Taking a second one makes me dizzy while I am in bed, which brings me to my second issue.
I read somewhere that it stays in your system for 14 days. So taking 350mg x 14 = 4900mg or 490 grams in the body before it starts to flush it. This does not alarm me but does beg the question about saturation of the body. So taking two a day would double this to near 1000 grams. I know that when I was on the pegetron my doctor told me it would take my body 5 years to flush it all out as it is stored in the fat cells. I have to believe he was right because it took 5 years to feel normal again and escape the foggy brain syndrome. Now I feel sharper and my memory is improving. I am anxiously awaiting my next ALT test numbers which will be done in a month or two. My numbers have been all over the place for the last 5 years because of the ibuprofen use I suppose. Now I take nearly none since starting the BHT. I have been on it now since 20/Jan12
I have joined the yahoo group bigmac68 but can't figure out how to post there. Posting here is so much easier.
Thanx, Art. 1a."Replies
02/21/2012: Terry from West Chester, Pa replies: "I think you made a mistake with the math.
350mgX2 times a dayX14 days/1000=9.8"
02/22/2012: Oscar from Syracuse, New York, Usa replies: "Dear Art from Vancouver, I very much understand and share your concerns about BHT therapy. This is why I always recommend that anyone trying this therapy come up with a dosage they are comfortable with. Start with a low dose and work up to no more than two 350mg capsules per day for most people. If that is too much take less. These capsules are easy to open up and you can split the dosage in half or less if you need to.
And yes, BHT and its metabolites do end up stored in fat tissues and other tissues also for up to two weeks. But this BHT is constantly being metabolized and excreted also. So you DO NOT end up with 2 weeks worth of BHT and it`s metabolites being accumilated in two weeks. The same is true for certain vitamins also. A general rule is that the water soluble vitamins such as vitamin C are quickly metabolized and work their way through a person`s body in a very few days and that the oil or fat soluable vitamins such as vitamin E take a week or two to work their way through a person`s system. BHT is similar to vitamin E in that way. I think this is a part of the answer as to why even low dose BHT therapy works. So find a dose you are comfortable with and stay with that. You want enough of what is the metabolites of BHT in your body to readily destroy these viral particles in your blood and inter-cellular fluids. You do not want more than what your body can safely handle and this does vary from person to person.
From the feedback available thin or lean people tend need less BHT and are those most prone to side effects. So find a dose you are comfortable with and stick with that dosage. It will work. It may take a bit longer and maybe it will not take any longer. Low dose BHT therapy worked for me and I weighed 175 poubds when I first started this treatment back in 1997. I was only taking one 200mg capsule of BHT per day. I was lean but not thin back then.
If you are having problems joining that group well I did also and I am a moderator there. I am not very computer savy, or smart and I eventually figured it out. Just keep trying. I had to change my yahoo name three times because I kept screwing up the process in some way I do not understand. Stay touch here in this forum.
And do join the group if you feel like it. You have to create a Yahoo acount to do so or one of the other similar accounts. There is NO fee. I do not understand it. If anyone out there does and can explain and help those who wish to that would be appreciated by me. That group is here: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/BHTcures/
02/22/2012: Dave from Wayne, Nj replies: "Checking in at day 47, I think, of BHT 350mg twice daily. I am not getting any blood work for another six weeks so I have no updated numbers to offer. Some days are better than others but as a whole I feel stronger and healthier week by week. I keep my fingers crossed every time I go to the bathroom hoping not to see dark urine or light stools. It's a bit of a roller coaster ride and I'm in no way convinced completely it's going to work, but it's hard to deny that something very positive is going on. My virals dropped almost 80% in the first 30 days and I feel better now than I did then. Hope it bodes well. Good luck to everyone. Thank you Oscar. Dave"
02/23/2012: Rsw from Uniontown, Oh replies: "For those who are interested in Hep C info, I saw this today on the LDN site. Although it will not be the answer for those who have the illness right now (and thank heavens for Oscar's wisdom there), it is on the horizon for others and possibly will lead to further I understanding of the disease and help for those afflicted now. FYI:
02/23/2012: Oscar from Syracuse, New York, Usa replies: "Thank you Dave from Wayne, NJ for your kind remarks and your very valuable feedback. It is only with such feedback that me or anyone else will be able to answer the important issues regarding the use of BHT to treat hepatitis C and other viral diseases. Issues such as what is an effective dose and what are the side effects that some experience.
Now my experience as I experienced it with the use of BHT to treat hepatis C is very much the same as yours. There were times I noticed my urine would at times appear darker than what is normal in those first 2 to 3 months of treatment. But after about 3 months of the BHT treatments my urine was and still is always normal.
It does take differing periods of time for the different people using the BHT treatment to have consistantly normal liver function. From my experience as time goes by any and all symptums dissappear within a very few months. I had a very diseased liver and you did also. Thank you for your updates Dave. With your feedback and that of others we WILL answer these questions and come up with some valid guide lines as to the use of BHT for hepatitis C and some other viral diseases also....Oscar"
04/23/2012: Wondering from Dm, Ia replies: "I was diagnosed with gw in Jan. And I keep going to the Dr. and getting them treated but they keep coming back. I read about bht and decided to order some and am waiting for its arrival. However, I am nervous about taking it. What dose should I start at? I am barely over 5 ft and weigh 165. I see talk about liver testing. Is that for the bht or something else? I don't want to hurt my liver but I want rid of these things!!!"
04/23/2012: Oscar from Syracuse, New York, Usa replies: "Well, the BHT seems to work very well for some people for genital warts and not very well for some others. This is not surprising because there are over 40 variants of HPV virus, the virus that causes these warts. The dose that seems to work best is 350mg of BHT taken twice a day. There is a long thread that discusses all this here in this forum here: http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/BHT.html
Read what is said there and decide for yourself if you wish to try the BHT treatment....Oscar"
03/05/2012: Debbie from Melbourne, Australia : "Oscar, I thought you might be interested in this study done with supplementing rats with both BHT and BHA, and absorbic acid and synthetic Vitamin E.
"ABSTRACT The purpose of this work was to determine the effects of two synthetic
antioxidants, butylated hydroxyanisole (BHA) and butylated hydroxytoluene (BHT), dZ-o-tocopherol and ascorbic acid on the fatty liver and on the renal and cardiovascular systems of choline-deficient rats. Weanling and 6-week-old male rats were fed casein- peanut meal diets devoid of choline for 8 and 10 days, respectively. Survivors were fasted and then killed, and tissues collected for serum and liver lipid analyses and for morphologic assessment of tissue damage. Fatty liver, hemorrhagic kidneys and cardiovascular damage characteristic of choline deficiency were observed in deficient animals of both ages. However, BHA and BHT protected rats in both age groups from heart and aorta damage and also prevented renal damage in the 6-week-old group. Mortality was decreased by tocopherol, ascorbate and BHA and BHT, but most notably by the latter two. In weanling rats all additives increased serum lipids and all except ascorbate decreased liver lipids. In 6-week-old rats serum lipids varied, whereas liver lipids were increased by tocopherol and ascorbate and decreased by BHA and BHT. We conclude that tocopherol and BHA and BHT tend to decrease the effects of choline deficiency on the liver, renal and cardiovascular systems whereas ascorbate enhances them. Possible mechanisms for the various effects are discussed."
Full abstract here: http://jn.nutrition.org/content/97/2/219.full.pdf"Replies
03/06/2012: Oscar from Syracuse, New York, Usa replies: "Dear Debbie from Melbourne, Thank you for posting this interesting study. Yes, it is long past the time when people need to be looking into the toxicity of BHT and start looking into the very substantial evidence that BHT is in fact good for you if taken in sensible dosages. There are very real reasons why those BHT dosed mice live on average between 22% and 31% longer than undosed mice and this study you posted is further evidence as to way this is so. I was not aware of that study and I do thank you for posting it.
I just popped a BHT capsule after reading that article. I am of an age where I am concerned about my heart and I also only have one kidney.
The heart and the kidneys are the organs discussed in this study and BHT is shown to significantly protect those organs from choline defficient damage. I do think this one of the benefits associated with the so called " tert-butyl effect ". That is what is so very different about BHT and BHA also when compared to other anti-oxidants including vitamin E....Oscar"
03/06/2012: Debbie from Melbourne, Australia replies: "Hi Oscar, no worries. I have a question for you. I note that many people are saying their stools returned to normal color after taking the BHT. My son, who is 4 is having pale(ish) colored stools so he is obviously not digesting fats properly. I was wondering if you think it would be beneficial for him to be on some BHT? He is about 20 kgs. If you think it would be beneficial for him what dosage would I try him on?"
03/07/2012: Timh from Louisville, Ky, USA replies: "... And this BHT just might be an excellent adjunct to the polyunsaturated fats becoming "peroxidised" by free radicals thus decreasing cell lifespan and increasing cancer risk. Again I refuse the "avoidance" stance and thereby loose the benefits of health oils like Evening Primrose, Borage, Flax, Hemp, Sun and Safflower. One can add the contents of x caps in x container of oil or simply take an oral dose 1x day to protect the healthy omega 3's, 6's as well as 9's in the diet; and this also allows the body to eat protein rich (particularly)red meats at least once or twice per week without an inflammatory response (i can actually notice the rise in inflammation the day after eating a beef hamburger the night before). I wouldn't attempt replacing Vit-E, A or the Carotenoids with BHT but I would try to find that perfect minimal daily dosage of each/all."
03/07/2012: S from Sacramento, Ca replies: "Dear timh, you are definitely entitled to your opinion and but unless you can relate to this topic of hep c , you are otherwise clueless! I have tried bht and it has helped me more than milk thistle and other supplements that I have taken for my liver. I had blood work done from 2 different places and my Labs came back normal liver function after taking bht for 1 month. This forum is utilized to communicate and receive knowledge and advice from our experiences to be able to help others. Your negativity is unwelcomed in our forum!!"
03/08/2012: Oscar from Syracuse, New York, Usa replies: "Dear Debbie from Melbourne, Listen, I have no way of knowing what is causing your Son`s digestive problems. Has he been dignosed with one of the hepatitis viruses? I am NOT a doctor. How long has your Son been having trouble with his digestion? Such problems can be the result of many different conditions and need to be addressed or at least diagnosed by a real doctor. Very often young children do grow out of such conditions. There are so many childhood diseases or conditions and very often young children do grow out of them. He needs to be seen by a qualified pediatrician to get a valid diagnoses as to what is wrong with him if this condition persists....Oscar"
10/17/2012: Alicia from Syracuse, Utah: "Hola, Oscar he leido tanto acerca lo bueno y lo malo del BHT, muchos efectos secundarios, en todos los que leen el foro, yo compro mi BHT en Link Life, Lot 041223, exp. May 2015, como tu sabes yo no he tenido efectos secundarios, solamente al comienzo un poco dolor de oido y reduje mi dosis dramaticamente, y los resultados han sido muy bueno, yo sugiero a todos aquellos con efectos muy malo que escuchen a su cuerpo, no quieran curarse de un golpe y poner tu cuerpo en riesgo, vale la pena tardarte un poco mas pero seguro, como yo solo tomo 250mg una vez al dia y mis resultados en el primer test fueron increible, yo espero que para diciembre los resultados salgan muy bien. Recuerden tu cuerpo reaciona cuando algo anda mal , por eso es mejor reducir la dosis hasta que tu no sientas nada extrano y que te moleste, eso es sabiduria, es mejor decir tarde pero seguro, buena suerte a todos, con mis mejores deseos.
Hello, Oscar've read so much about the good and bad of the BHT, many side effects in all who read the forum, I buy my BHT in Life Link, Lot 041223, exp. May 2015, as you know I have had no side effects, only a bit early earache and dramatically reduced my dose, and the results have been very good, I suggest to all those with very bad effects to listen to your body, not want to be cured of a coup and put your body at risk, tardarte worth a little more but surely, as I only took 250mg once a day and my results in the first test were amazing, I hope the results come out for December very well. Remember your body reacts when something is wrong, so it is best to reduce the dose until you do not feel anything strange and bothering you, that is wisdom, it is better late but safe to say, good luck to all, with my best wishes."Replies
10/21/2012: Oscar from Syracuse, New York, USA replies: "Dear Alicia, Thank you so very much for your continued dedication to helping others with the BHT treatment for hepatitis C. I very much appreciate your efforts and have posted this latest helpful information over at the BHT CURES GROUP.
Now Alicia, It would be very helpful if you can once again post your all important test results as you did once before. Those are among the most dramatic results ever posted. Sincerely, Your Friend, ...Oscar"
10/22/2012: Alicia from Syracuse, Utah replies: "Hey, Oscar con mucho gusto vuelvo a poner mis resultados, pero no se si tu quieres los que yo puse en Agosto que es el unico que tenido, hasta Diciembre que voy a tener los nuevos resultados, asi que si tu quieres los viejos dejamelo saber y con mucho gusto vuelvo a publicarlos, ha me olvide decirte que mi BHT yo lo compre en Amazon. Mis mejores deseos.
Hey, Oscar I would gladly go back to get my results, but not if you want the ones I got in August which is the only one that had, until December I'll have the new results, so if you want the old let me know and would gladly go back to post, I forgot to tell you is that my BHT I buy it on Amazon. Best wishes."
08/13/2012: Alicia from Syracuse, Utah: "Hola, Oscar he leidos casi todos los comentarios acerca de BHT, y no he visto a nadie que sienta como hot flas repentinamente, esto me esta pasando a mi y siempre tengo calor, es esto normal o deberia preocuparme, gracias.
Hello, Oscar I read almost all comments about BHT, and I have not seen anyone suddenly feel hot flash, this is happening to me and always I have my heat, is this normal or should I worry about, thanks."Replies
08/14/2012: Oscar from Syracuse, New York, Usa replies: "Dear Alicia, Lower the dosage of BHT taken any time adverse effects are experienced. This dosage issue is different for each person and may change over time for each person. Whenever adverse effects are felt LOWER the amount of BHT taken....Oscar"
07/16/2012: Alicia from Syracuse: "Hola oscar, cuando una persona va a camino a una recuperacion completa de HC, o sea el virus no es detectable, por cuanto tiempo mas una persona debe seguir usando bht, o puede discontinuarlo, cual es tu sugerencia. gracias."
EC: Hello Oscar, when a person goes to a full recovery way of HC, ie: the virus is not detectable, but how long a person should continue to use BHT, or may discontinue it, what is your suggestion. Thank you.
07/17/2012: Oscar from Syracuse, New York, Usa replies: "Dear Alicia from Syracuse, I am NOT a doctor. I still take BHT 6 years after I was told I have no testable indication I ever was infected with hepatitis C and B. I take 350mg of BHT per day. I do so because I have good reason to think it will protect me from many viral infections. What you do is up to you, not me....Oscar"
07/13/2012: "Hola Oscar, estoy muy preocupada, cual es la manera correcta de disminuir la dosis de bht, estoy ordenando capsulas de 200mg, si tengo que disminuir la dosis cual es la manera correcta, para que todas la veces sea la misma medida, cuanto es 180mg en cucharaditas, si es que tengo que disminuir mi dosis, una dosis baja tiene el mismo resultado, yo quiero este virus fuera de mi cuerpo, mil gracias."
EC: Hello Oscar, I'm very worried, what is the correct way to decrease the dose of BHT, I'm ordering capsules 200mg, if I have to lower the dose which is the right way, for all the times is the same extent as is 180mg in teaspoons, if I have to lower my dose, low dose has the same result, I want this virus out of my body, thank you.
07/14/2012: Oscar from Syracuse, New York, Usa replies: "Dear Whomever, If you wish to you can open these BHT capsules up by gently twisting and pulling the two ends apart. Then tap out a small amount of the BHT and push the capsule back together.
But this may not be necessary. One 200mg capsule of BHT per day is likely to be a safe dosage for most adults. You do want enough BHT to destroy those viral particles. You have to find a dosage you are comfortable with. I think 200mg of BHT per day is not too much for most adults, but if it is for you, you can open those capsules up like I just described. I want to see you get free of this disease very much and the BHT seems to work very well for many people....Oscar"
[YEA] 05/31/2012: Joe from Anonymous: "Hi. I don't have hep C or any health problems but I have been intrigued by all the BHT posts and thought I would try it for its antioxidant properties.
It's been 4 weeks since I started taking one 350 mg cap first thing in the morning either with water or ACV. I knew it was working because right away I broke out in small pimples and my skin got "greasy" and more oily than usual. This is what happens to me when I first start fasting, so I knew I was detoxing. Everything went back to normal after a week and now my skin is REALLY nice and soft and getting better everyday. The rough soles of my feet started to peel off (how weird! ) and so did the rough dark patches on my elbows. My skin also smells nice, almost like that of a baby!
The most shocking thing is my digestion. For years I have been emptying by bowels twice a day (with this "urgent" feeling) and suffered from extreme gas no matter what I ate. The gas is now COMPLETELY gone, and although I'm only going to the bathroom now every other day that is completely fine by me because the cleanup is not messy and I don't feel constipated at all... and I eat extremely healthy (vegetarian with lots of raw foods and the occasional fish, nothing fried, lots of brown rice, no processed food, etc).
Just thought I would share. This has been such an interesting and unexpected discovery to me! Take care everyone and good luck!"Replies
06/01/2012: Oscar from Syracuse, New York, Usa replies: "Dear Joe, Yes, I do NOT even mention the other benefits of BHT including maintaining youthful appearing skin because I think people will think I am full of crap. I am now 63 years old. Within the last year I have been ID`d two times when buying alcoholic beverages. This was after I had dyed my hair that is grey now. Anyway, I laughed and told the sales persons: You HAVE to be kidding me. No, they said, I need to see your driver`s license. I showed them my driver`s license and bought my beverages. Now this only happens when I dye my hair. I think I look at least 40, but I am 63. And NO, I never had any sort of cosmetic surgery or treatments and do think those sales clerks must have had bad eyesight.
Anyway, yes: This BHT stuff will go a long ways in maintaining youthful appearing skin. It prevents free radical damage and cross linkage in skin tissues and that underlying fat layer of said skin tissues. The preservation of oils and fats was what BHT was engineered to do in foodstuffs and fuels and rubber. Things that have a high hydrocarbon content. It works in non-living entities and living entities with said high hydrocarbon contents. It is GREAT stuff. GET BACK and GET SOME!!! ... BHT ...Oscar"
06/01/2012: Anon from Anon replies: "wow this sounds amazing, wish to see pics of your youthfulness ;p Will EC allow user pics (library) at some point?"
06/02/2012: Oscar from Syracuse, New York, Usa replies: "Gee whiz anon from anon, You are so very protective about who you are. Perhaps you can understand why myself and Joe do NOT want our faces plastered about the internet. Think what you wish to about BHT. I really do NOT care, ...Oscar"
08/19/2012: Victoria from Atlanta, Ga, Us replies: "How long have you been taking BHT?"
03/22/2012: Timh from Louisville, Ky: "If I might add a post for the theory of BHT's effectiveness. First, I have never been diagnosed w/ Hepatitis nor liver disease BUT I have good circumstantial evidence of Liver dysfunction which could very likely include Toxic or Autoimmune H, Primary Billary Cirrhosis, Fatty Infiltration. Only a few days of 250mg BHT I experienced noticeable overall improvement in health condition, but it seemed to kinda flatline at this as no more improvement was noted 2 or 3 wks latter... Until one day I developed a headache (which I usually associate w/ a dominance of whatever kind or kinds of pathogen that would be circulating in the blood). Well I had discontinued BHT for maybe 4, 5 days prior to the headache. Instead of the usual amping up of the antimicrobial herbs, I decided on 500mg BHT (at day 2 of headache) and got relief instantly. Given the complexity of my condition, there's certainly too much to properly unravel here to draw any valid conclusions; but previous antiviral herbs, lysine and sometimes added Colloidal Silver strongly suggest viral involvement (which is why I decided to try BHT to begin with). The rub is the "immediate" relief of the probable viral induced headache; which would suggest that BHT is possibly directly toxic to viruses. The name as well as the smell of this compound would also agree to this.
This possibility needs to be put on the "watch" tag of this biochem. Anyone with any input please post so we can learn more."Replies
03/22/2012: Art from Tustin, California Usa replies: "The following link takes you to a free downloadable book that discusses many aspects of BHT including its effectiveness, toxicity, uses, dosing and relevant study links. It is very interesting and probably a must read for anyone who is taking BHT or thinking about doing so. It is in PDF format and you may have to scroll down just a bit once you get there in order to complete the loading sequence. It's not too long and fairly easy reading.
02/27/2012: Smashmum from Stafford, Staffordshire: "Please am worried about BHT, I googled it and it sounds more or less like poison. What evidence do you have to convince one that it will not leave one in a mess like the conventional treatment?"Replies
02/28/2012: Oscar from Syracuse, New York, Usa replies: "Dear Smashmum from Stafford, Well there are the different toxicology reports that have been done regarding the toxicity of BHT and that NOEL [ no-observed-effects-level ] statement that is the conclusions reached by that Canadian Health Organization that looked at well over 200 toxicology studies that were done here: http://www.inchem.org/documents/jecfa/jecmono/v35je02.htm
NOEL statement:In view of the probable involvement of hepatic enzyme induction in the development of the hepatocellular damage associated with repeated doses of BHT, the Committee concluded that, in this case, enzyme induction was the most sensitive index of effects on the liver. A well-defined threshold was demonstrated at 100 mg/kg bw/day in the long-term study reviewed for the first time at this meeting, giving a NOEL of 25 mg/kg bw/day. Effects observed in the reproduction segments of the in utero/lifetime exposure studies were also taken into account in the derivation of this NOEL. The Committee used a safety factor of 100 to allocate an ADI of 0-0. 3 mg/kg bw for BHT.
And also this PHYSIOLOGICAL REVEIWS article that does show an average lifespan increase of between 22% and 31% for mice that were dosed with BHT over their entire lifetimes compared to mice that were not dosed with BHT here: http://physrev.physiology.org/content/87/4/1175/T3.expansion.html
In my opinion those two reports and the very extensive research that was done to create those statements [ hundreds of studies over decades of research ] is subbstantial actual evidence as opposed to some of the different opinions being bandied about that BHT is toxic.
If you take the time to actually read those toxicology reports you will learn that it is only when mice and other animals are given massive doses of BHT that toxic results occur. Massive doses of many things will produce toxic results including many Vitamins, sugar, salt most definitely, aspirin and on and on. You can overdose on most anything if you try to.
You do what you wish to regarding BHT. It is an alternative treatment that seems to work for many people for hepatitis C and some other very nasty viral diseases....Oscar"
02/24/2012: Art from Vancouver, Bc Canada: "UPDATE: Upon taking 350mg per day at 3pm. Since 20/Jan/12 The first ten days I split the dosage morning and night on empty stomach with water, then I went to 350mg a day in the afternoon.
For the past four days at approximately 6am. I have been experiencing a feeling in my liver across my chest that feels like ants crawling around in my liver and it feels a little sore as well. Below is a post that Oscar made in the discussion where he explains how the BHT works and this is what comes to mind as I lay in bed .
( BHT once embedded in the different viral coatings are compelled to move about, wriggling and such very rapidly and thereby disrupting, liquidizing, destroying the different viral coatings. )
I do have to get out of bed to settle down and as I sit here typing I find my stomach bloating and pushing on my liver. As well I find it affects the nerves along the front of my arms. Of which I am taking B12 500mcg once a day to help with that.
Over all I feel better than I have over the past 10 years. I am more alert and not so tired and my memory seems to be improving a bit as I don't struggle as much with word recall. I find I have more energy but the will is lacking. Could be I have gotten used to putting it off till tomorrow. This year I am not tiring as much while doing my chores and my face doesn't get as red as it did. My urine and stools have been normal for the past year, but there were times in the past where my stools were light but my urine looked normal. I try to eat right cutting out all sugars, whites and junk food.
I am going to go every second day on 350mg in the afternoon on an empty stomach as usual and see if things calm down.
Blessing to all, Art 1a."Replies
02/27/2012: Art from Vancouver, Bc Canada replies: "In response to what I posted on 24 of Feb. I had posted the result of what happened that night because it frightened me so much but I didn't want to give up. I must have had a bad reaction to some thing I ate for supper, scratch pork stir fry with VH Sweet and Sour Sauce.
I have felt better since then, I could even say better than I did before. Lately when I lay in bed I have no pain around my liver or gall bladder area which I had for ten years and my breathing is normal. I did miss one dose the day after but since then I went back to one 350mg a day in the early morning hours and have had no problems since. So I don't think it was a reaction to the BHT. I wanted to post back because I don't want anyone to get the wrong idea about the BHT. The nice thing is you can miss a dose or two and it doesn't have a negative affect on you.
I will not be able to get another blood test until Apr. As my doctor orders them every four months. I will post back with the results. Art."
02/15/2012: Gran from Swat, Kpk, Pakistan: "Hi sir, I'm Gran from pakistan. I am HCV patient and treated with interferon. My pcr report is clear (non detected) but my kit test is positive and no company gives me job because in medical report I am medically failed. That's why I am very tense. I am very happy to read your discussion about the hcv treatment. Can with BHT tretment my kit test become negative? If yes, please inform me about the duration of treatment and doses in which name BHT is available in Pakistan. I am 26 yrs old and my weight is 64 kg. "Replies
02/15/2012: Oscar from Syracuse, New York, Usa replies: "Dear Gran from Swat, Well, the interferon treatments worked for you as well as they can.
Now BHT [ butylated hydroxytoluene ] can NOT uninfect an infected liver cell the same as the interferon treatments. But with daily dosing with BHT eventualy there are NO infected liver cells because every cell in every person`s liver is a new cell about every year or so. And with daily dosing with BHT you prevent any uninfected liver cells from becoming infected. This does take years [ at least 2 years ] of daily dosing with BHT. And eventually you will test negative with this KIT test. This test, tests for hepatitis C antibodies. Those antibodies tests are going to test positive until ALL your liver cells are no longer infected. That does take years of daily dosing with BHT.
The really good news is you are not going to get really sick. You are not going to have liver failure. Those interferon treatments did work.
Another forum member did say BHT was not available in Pakistan. I am not at all sure that is true or not true. You have to buy BHT through the mail in any country. Try VRP [ Vitamin Research Products ] in a web or google search and see if BHT is available in Pakistan or not. There are many other retailers of BHT also. See what you can find out regarding the availability of BHT [ butylated hydroxytoluene ] in Pakistan and let this forum know what you find out. Is BHT available in Pakistan or not? ...Oscar"