Lung Issues
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(Bainbridge Island, WA)
05/08/2009
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BETTER BUT WITH SIDE EFFECTS
I have a chronic lung infection. I wrote about it a few days ago. I started the inhalation therapy last Sunday (6 days ago) with one inhalation and then now I am up to 4 inhalations 5 -6 times a day. My breathing is worse, my chest hurts and I am extremely tired. The interesting thing is that my chronic cough has gone away but the other symptoms worry me. Has anyone experienced these? Any suggestions? I'm afraid that if I have some sort of infection sores in my lungs that they are being very irritated.
(Nashville, TN)
05/12/2009
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This is in response to the post by Peggy from BI, Wash....I have asmtha and was suffering from a lung infection a couple of weeks ago...I started inhaling around this time and did find it to be a little uncomfortable at times. My chest was tight and I got headaches and felt just plain yucky but I kept on inhaling. I am going on my 4th week of inhaling H202 and I wonder how I functioned before. Best of luck to you.
(Bournemouth, UK)
05/19/2009
this is really interesting due to many benefits of getting extra oxygen. so i've been researching to find out as much as I can, and also to make sure it is safe.
From what I can tell, this H202 inhalation method is probably true, in which case Bill really has got an incredible amount of benefit from this method of taking H202 and with minimal side effects
However, on the other hand. until i see proof i cannot be totally convinced.
there are some more than unsavory people out there who will do anything to profit from drugs and destroy alternative medicine, and I know it wouldn't be difficult to pay a guy to do this if it were a ploy to give alt medicine a bad name, and to trick idiots into making themselves sick
that being said however, i have trusted bill enough to try it on myself
i have been using this for a week now.
new symptoms: cough
multiple chest worries
it feels like there is sores in my lungs when i breath. and the top of my lungs/chest/up to my throat feels like its being pressured. it feels like someone punched me in the throat
anyway, here is a bit of info I found:
Ozone, the tri-atomic oxygen, is less stable than O2 and its otherwise helpful free radical O1 could become toxic if given in the wrong amount. In the same way, oxygen, which is absolutely needed to sustain life, can also be toxic if excessive amounts are introduced into the body, especially under hyperbaric conditions, in other words under pressure. With its additional O1, ozone when breathed irritates the respiratory mucus membrane because this lining of the lungs is filled with toxins inhaled from the air. The O1 in ozone oxidizes or burns up these pollutants and the resultant oxides cause irritation and a coughing reaction to expel them. If the air we breathed was pure oxygen, ozone would most likely not have this effect. Nonetheless, the effect of over-oxidation of toxins in the lungs due to excess O1 can damage the respiratory mucous membrane, which is why it is never taken directly into the lungs. Similarly if too large a quantity were introduced into the blood, ozone could damage the blood cells for the same reason (over-oxidation). Yet this would be difficult to achieve because it is easily avoided due to the tell-tale coughing sensation that arises when the body reaches its saturation point. Thus, if ozone is used cautiously, it can never be given in excess and can only improve the metabolism of the oxygen in the cell.
This is very worrying for me as I am a heavy cannabis smoker. I probably inhale more than half a gram of multiple poisons and drugs and crap everyday if you work it out and look at whats in the tobacco and cannabis smoke that i breath. this stuff being oxidized in my lungs worries the hell out of me.
I recommend ANYONE who smokes NOT to use this method.
Until someone steps forward who is a smoker and has tried this for a duration of more than a couple of months, I would seriously reconsider the risk.
I may or may not continue. I feel that it is important for us to learn but also we can not forget our original agenda: health.
(Orillia, Canada)
05/19/2009
Peggy Not familiar with MAC however bronchitis & asthma I know; I hardly ever use my inhaler anymore I used to use 2puffs x 4 per day, sometimes even more being a smoker, plus I had a steroid as well, now maybe 2 or 3 times in 6 mos. and no steroids. I now use the good quality Oil of oregano I sniff it right out of the bottle, in the beginning I inhaled everytime I thought about it. the deeper the better, there are lots of labels out there however you only get what you pay for the cheapest is usually just that cheap. This stuff is great, many many uses I'm sure it will kill some of the bacteria and infection check it out on the internet Your breathing will inprove and the phlem breaks up and if you have a cold or stuffy nose yep it clears the nasal passages. good luck and good health Blessings Dianne
(New York, NY)
05/19/2009
(Bainbridge Island, WA)
05/21/2009
Dear Elizabeth in Nashville,
Thank you so much for your response. I have a few questions for you. Did you continue to use your asthma inhalers while on the H202? Do you still need them? You said you wouldn't be without the H202 now. How is your breathing? Is the chest tightness and asthma gone?
I had to stop the H202 after several days - I think I increased the number of inhalations too quickly. I have started gain with a very very low dose (one inhalation 3 times a day) and at the moment I'm still uncomfortable but want to persist for several more weeks gradually increasing the number of inhalations and see how I feel.
(Nashville, TN)
05/28/2009
Hello Peggy...to answer your questions I do still take my asmtha medication.. (Advair diskus)...I try to space my medication and the HP out so I don't take them at the same time. I am currently going to a Dr. that specializes in HP therapy and she said there should be no problem if I continue taking my medications. I currently have no chest tightness and I haven't taken a rescue inhaler in weeks. I think one of the reasons for this is because I have been coughing up mucus that would have usually stayed in my lungs if not for the HP. I don't think my asmtha will ever go away but if I can keep it under control than I am HAPPY. I can even work out and not have to use my albuterol...which is nice! I have been continously taking the HP (8 pumps 3 times a day) and may increase this gradually. I have honestly not felt this good in YEARS. I was always so TIRED..sometimes I didn't think I would make it out of bed. Now I have tons more energy.
I started out slow the first couple of days...just 3-5 pumps once a day. Plus I had been drinking BS (1/4 tspn in 4 oz water once daily) to alkalize my body so this may have helped with the detox effect.
Hope everything goes well for you!
(St. Paul, MN)
07/29/2009
(Wellington, New Zealand)
09/18/2009
Peggy & Elizabeth, Have you read "the watercure". Dr Batmanghelidg asserts that asthma is caused by dehydration..the lungs partly shutting down to conserve the body's water which we use up at around 2 litres a day. Even if you think this sounds way out, the book is definitely worth reading, I have had really great benefit from following his advice. Also, it doesn't cost anything to do the watercure!
(Missouri)
08/29/2021
Dr. suspects I also have MAC. Asthma and COPD symptoms although I have never smoked. Couple of spots on my lungs. Been getting increasingly worse except for a year when I took IV ozone treatments. I am trying the peroxide inhalation method but 5-6 times a day was creating a sore throat so I have cut back to 3 times a day, hoping to slowly build up. Can anyone explain to me why a person has trouble sleeping when inhaling h202 later in day? Thanks for any and all input. I am desperate to breath better without meds.
Lung Issues
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BETTER BUT WITH SIDE EFFECTS
(San Antonio, TX)
04/30/2009
I wrote a post about throat irritation and coughing up blood about two weeks ago. I talked to Bill Munro about it and he suggested that it might be a die off of an old virus. I took a break for a couple of days and then resumed the H2O2 inhaling but with a 1% solution instead of the 3%. This is working much better. I frequently still get mucus in my lungs after inhaling the H2O2 but I'm considering it to be beneficial and I think it is a clearing out process. I may up to dose to 2% at some point.
(San Antonio, Tx)
10/17/2009
Here's an update. My chest congestion is much improved from a change in diet to zero carbs. I still use the hydrogen peroxide spray but very infrequently if I feel my lungs getting congested. I found I couldn't use it several times a day for several days without throat pain and additional chest congestion. It works great to clear out my lungs when used occasionally.
Lung Issues
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(niagara falls, usa)
09/27/2008
(Phx, Az)
03/18/2013
re: worse cough, not better? Well, possibly find out what kind of infection the cough is from: mold related, pnemonia or? Nutrients to increase your immune system is so important. Enteric coated Vitamin C helps to improve it, plus B-complex, multi-vitamin, multi-mineral. Also try hyperbaric oxygen chamber.
(Wichita, KS)
07/03/2008
For the woman with asthmatic children I would definitely recommend the so-called "watercure". Instructions are free and the only cost is for sea salt.
In my H2O/H2O2 research I've noticed a similarity in the greatly varied responses to this therapy. and it occurs to me it makes perfect sense that water in a dehydrated body (it is estimated that over 70% in US are chronically dehydrated) would have a profound and greatly varied, overall effect, just as an influx of oxygen would.
It seems that some are frightened by what is called the "healing crisis", but one must remember that oxygen (like plain water) is going to have an effect on EVERYthing, including problems one may not even be aware they are having. These "new" things may flair up, temporarily, as they are cleared and appear to be side effects when they are merely the healing of previously unknown problems.
I'm glad I found this site. Now I have water with extra oxygen plus, less craving for cigarettes! And now, if I could just get rid of this craving for coffee...
Thanks EarthClinic!!
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Lung Issues
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(Saint John, New Brunswick, Canada)
12/20/2011
Lung Issues
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Lung Issues
Mesothelioma
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Multiple Ailments
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(Miami, FL)
04/06/2015
You need an assessment of your health. Go to jingherbsanalysis.com and do TCM assessment, then set up a free 15 min. Consult with them or $150 consult, they will give you a $150 certificate, so it is still free. I have tried to find an online diagnostic service where you answer close to 1000 questions about your health and symptoms, but have no luck so far. I used them in 2006-07, they are in Hawaii and it is all computerized. If I find it I will let you know. You need to know what is going on. Resetting your body is another way to go, but google about it. Ice water showers is all I know. You need to stress your body enough for it to reset itself and that is something you need to decide for yourself. With too many symptoms you need to step back and evaluate it from the holistic approach. You did not tell anything about yourself, symptoms, the approach would be different if you are 25 or 65.
(Pittsburgh Pa)
06/23/2015
I have chronic bronchitis. MDs almost killed me. They failed to diagnose hypothyroid disease for years until I was almost dead. All they did was prescribe antibiotics for years, which ruined my entire body and my health. It's been a long road back, but now I'm much healthier. H2O2 was a huge part of my recovery in ALL areas.
I use 1/2 H2O2 (Buy 3% food grade hydrogen peroxide at Whole Foods) and 1/2 distilled (DO NOT use tap) water in my nebulizer cup. Inhale this for 15 minutes. If this is too strong or too long for you, work up to it. I use it every other day.
You also might want to try Probiotics and/or organic Apple Cider Vinegar (2 TBSP/DAY) for your intestinal problems. Also buy a juicer! Veggie juice will help cure everything! Get rid of ALL junk food-sugar, flour, anything processed. Eat organic as much as you can.
Best advice, find a good integrative MD and stay away from conventional MDs. I would be dead by now if I was taking medical advice from them. Also read online the symptoms of hypothyroid. If you think you have it, find an integrative DR. who will actually listen to you, and prescribe these hormones.
Muscle Spasms
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(Greater Boston, MA)
10/18/2008
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Muscle spasms/leg cramps
In the middle of the night, I am often awakened by horrific leg cramps (calves). I, too, remembered the Bill M. peroxide inhalation....took out my handy-dandy nasal spray bottle with 3% peroxide, and inhale about four sprays at once, and hold my breath as long as I can. The pain disappears within ten seconds. This works for me, and might help someone else.
Ramona
Nebulizer
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You Need:
1. A desktop nebulizer with a nose and mouth mask
2. 3 ml normal saline solution
3. Two drops of 2% Lugol's Iodine
4. One drop of 3% Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide.
Always keep these items on hand - nebulize as needed!
Nebulizer
All I have is the usual 3% solution, but even I've been told I can use this, I should dilute it with saline. I only have a nasal saline solution that is 0.65% sodium chloride solution. Does anyone know how to use these?
(New York)
09/08/2021
Here's what I used for Covid - mine lasted 8 months.
I purchased Ayr saline and used two ways.
First emptying it out and filling it with FOOD grade 3 percent
hydrogen peroxide and inhaling it into lungs as shown in video on this website.
Ayr saline with two drops 5 percent lugols solution as a protective nose spray.
I used mucinex to remove fluid from lungs - warning this can be intense. I had copious fluid in my lungs that caused my voice to change, and coughing everyday for hours. Does it work yes, but you will be coughing up a lot of fluid.
Eucalyptus steams for lung. Boiled distilled water, no more than two drops of eucalyptus ESSENTIAL oil, NOT fragrance oil which is synthetic. Boil water, add to bowl with drops of essential oil. Let cool for a few minutes and steam lungs as long as you can.
Ipratropium Bromide nasal solution spray, if you are getting
runny nose which can land in the chest. This works and is very helpful.
I was diagnosed with COPD because doctors couldn't figure out how to help me. I did not use steroids!
(Berlin (Germany))
09/09/2021
It would be a good idea for you to get this book written by Thomas Levy MD. He explains a lot about nebulizing HPO. You can also download a free copy:
https://rvr.medfoxpub.com/
(Michigan)
10/30/2022
Make your own saline 1tsp pink Himalayan salt to 16oz of distilled water. Equals .09 the same as human fluid.
Nebulizer
Nebulizer
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Here's what my research showed; I also contacted Dr Clark's Store and asked questions (below):
DR CLARKs NEBULIZER
Https://drclarkstore.com/mini-mesh-nebulizer/
Use a nebulizer:
A nebulizer is a device that turns liquid solutions into vapors for inhalation. Compounds can be used in a nebulizer to help localize the delivery of the treatment to the lungs during times of respiratory distress, unlike an oral treatment that first has to go through the digestive tract before it can be delivered to the organs. Nebulize 3 ml of a 3% hydrogen peroxide solution and 1 drop of Lugol's iodine every 1-2 hours throughout the day at the first sign of respiratory distress. Nebulizers are readily available online. Follow the manufacturer's operating instructions as models can differ.
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NEBULIZER Q&A
I saw Dr Clark's nebulizer instructions (below). Are these instructions for 'this particular' nebulizer? Also, do I add any other liquid to the dose below and is 3% 'food grade' peroxide is ok to use,? Thank you.
INSTRUCTIONS: Nebulize 3 ml of a 3% hydrogen peroxide solution and 1 drop of Lugol's iodine every 1-2 hours throughout the day at the first sign of respiratory distress.
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Response: Hi: Thank you for contacting us! Yes the directions you received are for this particular nebulizer, and you will only add the hydrogen peroxide and lugols iodine to the dose and Yes, 3% food grade peroxide will be okay to use for the nebulizer. If you have any further questions plesae let us know!
Kind Regards, Priscilla Customer Service Representative
ALSO...here's the dilution formula for 35% peroxide: 11oz Distilled Water : 1oz 35% Food Grade Peroxide = 3% solution
Nebulizer
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Yes, I tried nebulizing 3% hydrogen peroxide because I had a cough that would not go away (no help from doctors), and it was getting worse by the month. I tried many other things via nebulizer but nothing worked until I used OTC regular hydrogen peroxide in an Omron Micro Air nebulizer (palm sized, silent, battery operated).
I took a deep breath and spent the next two minutes trying to catch my breath. I realized caution was in need so took more shallow breaths and finally deeper breaths. That cough went away and never came back! I now use 3% food grade hydrogen peroxide available from Swanson Vitamins.