The liver is located on the right side of the abdomen, just below the rib cage, and is crucial for digesting food, absorbing nutrients, and eliminating toxins from the body. Some people are genetically prone to liver trouble, but many liver problems are as a result of viruses or chemicals causing damage. Common afflictions of the liver are hepatitis (A, B, C, D, E), alcohol damage, fatty liver disease, cirrhosis, cancer, and liver damage from acetaminophen.
People who are exposed to others’ blood and bodily fluids, have body piercings, have diabetes, use alcohol heavily, are on prescription medications, share needles, are obese, or have tattoos are at risk for liver damage. Symptoms of liver damage include jaundice or a yellowing of the skin and eyes, abdominal pain and swelling, itchy skin, dark urine coloring, pale stool coloring, chronic fatigue, nausea, and loss of appetite.
Treat Liver Damage Symptoms with Folk Medicine
On this page you can find a number of different user submitted natural remedies for liver damage. Some of our popular home cures for liver damage are castor oil, coconut oil, turmeric, and a garlic tea recipe. In addition, we have a number of discussions concerning dietary suggestions and detox options for your liver. Let us know what you try and how it works for you; and if you know a remedy that’s not yet listed here, please don’t hesitate to share it with us.
For those interested, I’ve been taking a set liver protocol over the last 12 years or so that seems to be very effective. I take it every day without fail. I thought it might be useful to pass this on.
The protocol that I supplement mainly consists of taking Milk Thistle, Selenium and Alpha Lipoic Acid + all the B vitamins every day. This is my core protocol. I decided long ago that it was was all but impossible, unrealistic and too expensive to eat organic food every day and anyway there’s no real chance of me regularly buying organic food when living in the primitive provinces of the Philippines. Here, people just look at me funny and smile whenever I ask for organic this or that. So my approach turned into supplementing a preventative daily detox regimen where I don’t panic or get paranoid if I’m forced to eat food from bad sources. The reason I don’t panic is that I’m always detoxing my body every single day. I also try and eat food and veg bought at the local wet market in my provincial town, so this also helps to limit all those fungicides, pesticides, agri-chemicals and poisons in the food because I’m not buying my food at a supermarket. In my opinion buying produce grown locally like this is by far the best and most realistic and affordable all-round option.
Milk Thistle, in my own experience, is a truly mighty detoxer for the liver. In my opinion, no other herb comes close. Other herbs like Burdock, Dandelion and Hogweed (Boerhavia diffusa) are also very good for the liver. But Milk Thistle has one huge plus. Milk Thistle is the only one that is a xenobiotic. There are poisons that you can eat that the liver or body knows nothing about and so it cannot neutralize them or get rid of those poisons form the body and they just end up staying in your body permanently doing harm. But Milk Thistle will get rid of these poisons because it is an efficient xenobiotic that can remove such poisons from the body safely.See the research on Milk Thistle:
https://selfhacked.com/blog/milk-thistle/
Selenium is a remarkable mineral that is hugely important in the human body. Selenium removes mercury, it’s good for the heart, promotes a healthy thyroid, reduces inflammation, protects the brain, helps to prevent cancer, boosts the immune system and most importantly, it is the central metallic atom in glutathione, which is probably the most important master anti-oxidant of the body that is essential for the protection of the liver, thyroid and the lungs. The reason the auto-immune system does not attack or destroy host cells is because all host cells contain a code (hapten code). And when an immune system cell interrogates that host cell — “Are you friend or foe??” — the hapten code response from the host cell is “Hey, I’m a friend”. But if mercury is absorbed by the host cell, it will scramble the hapten code so when the immune cell interrogates that host cell it gets the wrong response so the host cell is attacked and destroyed by antibodies as the enemy. This is what causes auto-immune disease. So if you regularly supplement selenium to remove mercury from your body then this must also help to reduce the possibility of getting auto-immune disease. See this link about selenium.
https://selfhacked.com/blog/health-benefits-selenium/
I learned all about Alpha Lipoic Acid (ALA) from the research of Dr Burt Berkson who was also using the Milk Thistle, Selenium and ALA + ALA IVs + Low dose naltrexone to successfully cure hepatitis C, liver cirrhosis, liver cancer and pancreatic cancer. From the Introduction to his book “The Alpha Lipoic Acid Breakthrough” which is all based on his own experience and research,
in 2017 I added resveratrol to my daily detox protocol which now consists of taking Milk Thistle, Selenium, ALA + B vitamins. I had been taking this protocol + resveratrol specifically to see if I could lose some weight because I was a wee bit too heavy for my height.
After seven months of taking this protocol my wife said, “Hey you’ve lost a lot of weight.” So I weighed myself and got a very pleasant surprise. I used to weigh 92 kilos and when I weighed myself after taking detox + resveratrol for 7 months, my weight had fallen to 75 kilos. I had lost about 20 kilos safely without taking any exercise. I thought that perhaps 75 kilos was a bit too light so I stopped taking the resveratrol and went up to about 80 kilos which, I reckon, is my fighting weight so to speak.
On further researching resveratrol, I also discovered two things. First if resveratrol is taken with Genistein (another flavonoid) on a daily basis then you will loose weight more rapidly than taking resveratrol alone. Milk Thistle contains significant amounts of genistein so there’s the reason I lost so much weight so easily. Milk thistle also contains significant amounts of quercitin. Research has also confirmed that when quercitin is taken with resveratrol on a daily basis then the immune strength is twice as strong as it would be just taking resveratrol on its own.
Here are the dosages that I take every day:
Milk Thistle….500 mgs once a day with a meal.
Selenium…….200 to 400 micrograms a day with a meal.
ALA……………..600 to 1200 mgs a day with a meal.
B Vitamins….half a tablespoon of Organic Brewer’s Yeast once a day with a meal.
Resveratrol (only derived from Japanese Knotweed)…..300 mgs taken first thing in the morning. Should contain at least 150mgs of trans-resveratrol.
Bill,
I would appreciate some insight. ALA, the warnings about mercury, or metal fillings. I have never decided one way or another regarding its use. There seems two sides to this and I am hesitant.
Now that I have been sprayed by glyphosates. It is difficult to know exactly what to do. I can unwind some or most of the symptoms. I know I am not making enough headway.
The sense it is lurking is concrete. There are protocols and advice. Not enough to eradicate it. It does not take much to knock me off my pins.
So looking at your regime, it has some promise. It is crazy making to resolve.
I look at this mess as something akin to arsenic or heavy metal poisoning. I am thinking it is not reversable, but manageable.
Chlordane poisoning in the 90s was an unknown factor, when I first became seriously ill. I have always concluded that was another issue that remains.
I would appreciate any insight into this mess.
Janet
Hi Janet…The way that I think about your ALA/mercury problem is mostly based on the research of Dr Burt Berkson, who is the ultimate expert or research guru on ALA and who has used the milk thistle, selenium, ALA oral protocol as part of his very successful natural Triple Antioxidant Therapy treatment for thousands of people with hepatitis C, cirrhosis, liver cancer and pancreatic cancer. And you can bet that those people he treated were just ordinary Americans who, without any doubt, would also have many mercury fillings in their teeth. The point is that Dr Berkson, in all his research and in his books, has never reported that people died or were injured with his detox treatment (i.e because ALA was redistributing mercury from their teeth into their bodies).
If you still have any fears about mercury when using ALA then I would also urge that you read Dr Berkson’s book “The ALA Breakthrough” on Amazon.com. In this book, he also describes, in one simple sentence, how ALA removes mercury safely from the body:
“Alpha lipoic acid has been demonstrated to chelate high levels of mercury and allow the patient to excrete it from the body by way of the gall bladder.”
It also sounds, from the description of your problem, that you may have other heavy metals in your body. If that is the case, I would immediately supplement Chlorella daily to help remove all heavy metals efficiently from just your intestines. I would also recommend that you supplement Cilantro extract every day which should help to also remove all the heavy metals from your tissues, organs and blood fairly quickly (probably within a month).
Chloredane is an awful industrial poison that contains a remarkable 6 chlorine atoms per molecule of chloredane which makes it highly poisonous and dangerous. Supplementing Milk thistle, Cilantro extract, MSM or Sodium thiosulfate (which is a well-known and efficient dechlorinator. The dose is 6 to 10 drops of ST in a glass of water per day – also see Ted from Bangkok’s dose recommendations for ST on EC) should help to remove chloredane from the body.
Hi Janet…I forgot to mention that if you regularly eat sulfur-containing foods then this will also help to remove glyphosates efficiently from your body.
Here are some useful sulfur-containing foods: Apple Cider vinegar, Korean kimchi, sauerkraut, garlic, onions, eggs, organic cheese etc
To Bill from Philippines:
I have been diagnosed with Scleroderma and doing a FCT Homeopathy protocol. Can Wheatgrass be used instead of Chlorella? I’ve heard make Chlorella brands are bad. Thank you.
Hi Becky…Scleroderma is an auto-immune disease. Here’s what Ted from Bangkok recommends:
“The cause of scleroderma in certain cases may be due to a tiny mycoplasma which bought about the condition. In which case zinc acetate 50 mg every other day, may normalize the immune functions as well as some iodine foot painting, maybe twice a week. A sodium ascorbate vitamin C (or ascorbic acid with baking soda), 1000 mg/day would normalize the body’s inflammation somewhat as it raises the body’s nitric oxide to some extent.
A drop of lavender oil in a glass of water may help that too for the scleroderma. If you think scleroderma is due to invading mycoplasma, then a pinch of borax in a drinking water would stop the scleroderma then and there.”
Source: https://ted.earthclinic.com/cures/acid_reflux42.html
Scleroderma can also affect other areas of the body such as skin, blood vessels, muscles and organs. Taking Milk Thistle, Chanca piedra, Cilantro extract and Selenium should also help with these internal issues.
Milk Thistle and Cilantro extract will help to support your liver/blood and will remove heavy metals and poisons from the body. Chanca piedra is highly beneficial for the body and will help to remove any excess calcium in the blood, which should also help to safely reduce excess calcium in the skin(which causes it to thicken). See this link:
https://earthclinic.com/herbs/chanca-piedra/comment-page-2/#comment-251407
Milk thistle and Cilantro extract will remove any heavy metals. Recent research has confirmed that excess mercury in the body can also be a cause for auto-immune disease and that’s why it’s important for you to take Selenium. Selenium helps to prevent auto-immune disease by removing mercury from the body. See my detailed description of the benefits of selenium here:
https://earthclinic.com/ailments/liver-damage-remedies/comment-page-3/#comment-251390
Protocol Dosages
* Borax(Sodium Tetraborate)….A pinch of Borax(like a pinch of salt) in a glass of water once per day. You can use unscented 20 Mule Team Borax from the supermarket(washing isle) without problems.
* Lavender Oil…One drop in a glass of water once per day.
* Milk Thistle…500mgs twice a day taken with meals
* Chanca piedra…Take the tea form three times a day outside mealtimes. Or you can take the capsules – 500mgs twice a day.
* Selenium…200 micrograms twice a day with meals.
* Cilantro extract…10 drops(or as recommended) in a glass of water taken twice a day outside mealtimes
Hi Bill, thanks so much for your info, I’m going to try this.
Sincerely, M
Hi Bill. I am thinking about trying your liver protocol and wanted to know on taking the supplements (Milk Thistle, Selenium, ALA) and the B vitamins, you say you take them with a meal. Do you take all 4 with the same meal or divide them up with 2 or 3 meals a day? If you divide them, which do you take together? And so you take the Resveratrol on an empty stomach first thing in the morning? Thanks very much for sharing your knowledge!
Con
My GGT in liver blood tests were 400 u/l. After taking ALA and Milk Thistle, they have dropped to below 90 u/l in 6 months.
HI U OLE PATOOTS DOIN,,,,,,,,,,, as all know I's kinda wild and strange. Anyways, me and my Tractor Driver are starting our annual liver and gall bladder flush this week and want to invite you to come along with us. The procedure is from Dr. Hulda Clark's book as the following URL explains.
https://www.drclark.net/cleanses/advanced/liver-cleanse-page/liver-cleanse-recipe
She also recommends that you drink apple juice daily for a week prior to the actual flush procedure. We will be drinking a glass of apple juice before every meal preceding our start on Friday night. The procedure is done Friday night and all is completed Saturday mid-morning. There is very little cost, a few lemons, a little epsom salt and a little olive oil. You can follow Dr. Clark's protocol but I will be posting all week and walk you through what takes place on Friday night and Saturday morning.
You will be amazed as to what your flashlight shows you in the toilet on Saturday morning. We have done this flush for about the last 10 years so we no longer get stones, we just get what is called chaff. If this is your first Rodeo then you will likely get stones of every color in the rainbow. You liver will thank you for getting rid of lots of toxins as you should feel much better.
I'm serious about this. This is your chance to clean out your liver with the whole world available to help you. I will post daily on things that may ease any reservations. In Dr Clark's book, she says she gets credit for this flush, but it has been done for thousands of years.
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YEP, It's me again. The professional folks have spooked me, because they don't want you to think for yourself. They say you can't do this by yourself. You must have professional guidance….. $, $, $. BS, BS, BS.
After reading what the sites say, I'm going to give you those caveats and you will have to make the decision as what is good for you. If you do the procedure, then don't fuss at me. I ain't got no money nohow.
One lady makes it clear that you must go to her for guidance. Instead, I'll give you what cure zone says and the decision is yours. Read the the possible problems and read the benefits. We are both old and we opt for the benefits. The decision is yours.
https://www.curezone.org/cleanse/liver/gallstones_and_liver_flush.asp
Not trying to stir up a controversy, but don't know your health situation. We old, but we've done this at least 10 times.
Here is what you might see in the toilet.
https://liverflushtruth.blogspot.com/p/pics.html
Know this is gross, but this crap is in your liver and you need to understand that. What we get now get is the chaff you see in the last pictures.
Research this flush yourself and I hope you will join us. Our governments can't get along, but maybe we can.
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I recently was diagnosed with a 5.5 cm simple liver cyst, I cant digest most food, so much heartburn, gas, bloated, nausea, specialty at night, no stones showed on my ecography, is Liver flush safe to my with such cyst? I was preparing me with apple juice last day to do the liver flush but with this ecography results I'm scared that what could happen with my cyst. Thank you for your help.
Dear Robert Henry,
Just last night I was in bed thinking about how much better I feel than a year ago. A year ago no foods agreed with me and I had heartburn and chest pain that often woke me in the night.
It took me four flushes over the course of a couple of months to get the largest stones out. The proof is in the pudding. I haven't had the chronic heartburn or chest pain since. Even a year later I marvel that it actually worked. No surgery. No organs removed. Yay!
Reading stories here at EC finally gave me the courage to do it. It was that or surgery.
Happy cleansing!
~Mama to Many~
MAMA,,,,,,,, got a few stories to tell you. What folks don't know is that in these stones are full of toxins big time as we have learned from a lady in our little country church experienced this past year.
She had a kidney stone and went to a Cleveland, Tn hospital to get it crushed and passed. They crushed it alright and it was full of E-coli, went through out her body and gave her sepsis. That's a $3 consultant word for blood poison. She was unconscious for 8 days and on life support. They took her off life support and she became conscious 3 days later. She was totally black. So far the doctors have cut off her left arm at the elbow, cut off her left leg at the knee and have cut off the toes on her right foot.
She only survived because we were praying for her night and day . You cannot believe her attitude. She is just grateful to be alive. She has been back to church twice and it thrills us just to see her. If folks don't think there is a God, then I weep for them.
I told this story to my dentist and he related that his son's mother in law is still in the hospital after a simple gall bladder incision went array. The doctors had to operate on her a third time and she went into sepsis and is still in IR.
It is now apparent that toxins are in your fat, and stones and any other place they can hide. They hide in your kidney stones, they hide in you liver and gall stones. Our medical folks are just smart enough to get us to the Holy Land before our time. Crush stones full of toxins and send that garbage through out your body. Are you SHEETING ME? They spent 28 years of schooling and did not know this? You kidding me, right?
Reminds me of going to the Institute of Paper Industry in Wisconsin back in the '70's and learned that the professors were 20 years behind the industry. They brought us up on summer seminars to learn from us. They did not know sheet. I don't think our medical doctors do either. They only know what the mini skirted Pharma Reps tell them.
Excuse my rant. Just more reasons that folks need to flush their liver and get rid of the stones full of toxins.
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HI U GOOD PEOPLE,,,,,,, if you are doing the flush, I hope you are drinking your apple juice. It's not mandatory, but helps. Also like Jessie, I did not lie, I just misspoke. Forgot that Sat. we are leaving for Grayton Beach, Fla. so we will do the actual flush on Thursday night. Suggest you stay with Fri. night going into the weekend.
There are additional things that will assist you:
Take about 4 to 8 capsules of 500 mg L-Ornithine for sleep and a heating pad on your left side to encourage your liver to flush. Have a bright flashlight so you can observe the toilet stones the next morning. We have learned to have all our solutions in jars and packed in an ice chest next to our bed. They go down better cold. Dr Clark says to use pink grapefruit, but we have used lemons, either works.
Well, if you are not doing the flush with us, then at least you're thinking about doing preventive things like Mama does.
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HI U OLE PATOOTS,,,,,,,,,,, tonight we do our liver flush ; have shut off all supplements, eating a mild and late breakfast, drinking lots of apple juice and water. Have all the toddies mixed and in the frig. and heating pads are on the bed. Hope some of you are trying this procedure for the first time. The Russian PhD says in his book that he and his Retreat followers spent a week detoxing and conclude with the liver flush. He considers this to be one of the best things to do for good health. We have two of his books. His mother was an MD and was disappointed that he studied Physiology, not medicine. His reponse was that he wanted to help people stay healthy and not just treat their symptoms.
Wish us well, =====ORH=====
I dropped the olive oil part since the green of the olive oil could be mistaken for stones. I started the Atkins cholesterol protocol, TMG, vitamin E, a bunch of supplements. That alone flushed the smaller stones. I found though that for me they returned very quickly and I used plain Apple Cider Vinegar to keep them flushed. Later I found Stephanie Seneff discussing sulfur and cholesterol sulfate and its proper function in the body, added MSM to my protocol, resolved stones and diarrhea as long as I keep on the MSM and TMG. I have helped two people flush their stones the way since then. One was my husband who went on a fast and felt like he was having a heart attack. He grew new respect for my pain all those years.
Essential Oils cleaned out blocked liver:
I am grateful for this site and am hoping this will help someone. Applying an essential oil blend externally 3 times cleared my liver. (I DO NOT SELL THEM). After that I could actually take supplements without them making my face numb. Now I take huge doses of Niacin for my anxiety and life is becoming wonderful again.
A while back I was in really bad shape – for a year I couldn't take more than a quarter of the adult dose of a quality multivitamin (took a while to find one I could tolerate at all) or my face would go numb. Auto-immune diagnosis and major issues.
One day I tried an essential oil blend designed to help digestion – ingredients were Ginger, Peppermint, Tarragon, Fennel, Caraway, Coriander, and Anise essential oils. (called Digestzen). I rubbed 2 or 3 drops over my liver area 3 times in one day. The next day I had pain in ALL joints in my body – this took a week to clear. I also saw something that looked like chopped straw in my poop.
After a few months I got brave enough to try again – this time I applied only once 2 drops over my liver. I got a little pain in my liver this time.
A week later I tried again 2 drops applied over my liver and it was all good.
I read later that the straw stuff is called chaff and is crystallised stuff that literally blocks the tiny ducts up and was leaving the liver. My liver was literally blocked up. (So nothing was working very well)
Since then I have also started using Chinese bitters. I am now able to take supplements in orthomolecular doses without fear of tremors all night or numb face, etc.
Life if fabulous. Keep asking the universe/god for help and it will come – love to all and I hope this helps someone.
It sounds great to me. Hopping you are a serious human being acting in God's name and not be a charlatan.
NOTE: I had missed a important information.
All those oils from GINGER at to Anise, comes in a hole bottle, or we have to buy all individually and then, mixing them in a glass jar?
Please, let me know and were I can buy them too.
I have two Benign cysts, one is 1 cm and other, the first one had show in X-Ray is now 2cm.
I am so happy for you, because I know how bad you usually feel, I can not eat almost nothing every thing hurts me, even medicine do not cure me instead make me worst. My bally is always blowing I need digestive on the account remedies.
All my joins of my body hurts, since I was a child, I noted it after I had turned yellow like a Lemon even my eye I was only 6 years old. Not school took me in because teachers thought I was a hepatitis person.
Dr. said that I have a damaged liver but not contagious, it was a Jaundice infected liver by contaminated water of uncooked food. until my color finally clear a great deal but not complete I still look a Olive greenish.
Today, I am going to be 77 next June 07/17 and my health is getting worst I feeling the earth is moving, actually it is me only, and even felling down frequently by not reason at all. Every thing I eat is bad, gasses are my worst anemic and always are with me.
I am telling my history for those ones that might have the same problem and not ware that can be the liver too.
I never had drinking neither smoke, not eat hot food because I have had follow very carful since the Dr. had diagnosticade me with liver damaged, I can not grease, meat and many other foods, and I have had developed Asthma that is together with the liver, ready to make my live miserable.
Please return my email letting me know if all those remedies comes already mixed or I have o buy them individually and mixed those myself.
I hope it ill kill most of my problems, thanks to you and God that has had put you in many people lives to get cure or at least most better.
Thanks again and God bless your and yours too.
blanche.
Ginger, raw, thinly sliced and chewed or crystallized ginger tiny pieces, really cut down my liver pain, go slow it's very strong.
The name is listed – Digestzen (by doTerra). Young Living and other companies sell similar digestion blends – they all have similar ingredients. Try also using Swedish or Chinese Bitters as well. These help clean out the liver. God bless you.
Thank you.
Have you tried the essential oils yet? Did it work for the cyst?
Tell me more about the niacin you used and the dose per day. Your experience too. Thank you, Carri
Hi Carrie
There is a facebook group about taking Niacin in large doses – the people there practice this. Also look up Niacin therapy – Dr Abram Hoffer and Dr Andrew Saul – it needs to be taken with a range of other vitamins.
I just wanted to share with you that from our forefathers we used to treat liver problems with a particular medicine which we used to give at home.
Many people used to come take this medicine and also we never charged them any money, I had recently had treated my own son? it does work well but you need to follow these steps and also
please follow the days we give the medicine? and stick to the diet which I normally ask during the days you take it… this medicine you can make it at home and take it only on these days.
Ingredients you need:
Garika in telugu (A kind of grass called Agrostis linearis. durva. Ainslie.)
Cardamom Powder (half teaspoon)
Saffron a pinch
Our beliefs the medicine was given on:
Sunday Morning, Evening and Monday morning.
OR
Thursday Morning, Evening and Friday morning.
Please wait after taking one time don't stop your medication which your doctor prescribed and then check after 15 days
with your doctor and check how well is our liver functioning.
Also please remember the diet when taking the medicine eat light and no oily food also no non veg and fatty food.
We used to ask our patients to eat only boiled rice with buttermilk during medication days whenever hungry and water.
Also follow your doctor's diet and medication.
Please check and post your experience with others. I hope it helps you.
I will answer all your questions if you have any.
My youtube video for preparation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVB1NZbbgK0
For clearing liver stones, is it enough to do coconut oil with lemons everyday? If not, and I do the olive oil with citrus cleanse, are there any substitutes for the apple and cranberry juice, as I have acid problems. Finally, a general diet question. Is it okay to take flax oil, whey drink and mushrooms, or will these adversely affect my PH?
You can take tart cherry juice or a malic acid supplement instead of the other juices.
I was recently having upper abdominal pain and had a lot of testing done. The only thing found was a 1.5 inch liver cyst in the exact spot where I was having pain and bloating. The doctor told me "these don't cause symptoms" however with what I have been reading I know it is not true. Surgery on the liver is not very safe and I am desperate for a remedy.
@Marisa: It would be nice to know exactly what type cyst you have. In the meantime, I would recommend applying a strong magnet directly to the area for about 30 min daily fallowed by a Don Croft Zapper for 30 min directly over the area. Fallow this w/ garlic oil soft-gels in the am session and Oregano Oil soft-gels in the pm session. These remedies will reduce the infection and inflammation and eventually kill the cyst; may take several months treatment.
Hello, I was just wondering if it's good or bad to swallow stones when eating fruits, ie, grapes, watermelon…I thought it is good as normally stones contain minerals and vitamins, but is it ok for the liver. I am not talking about juicing or blending whole fruits, but swallowing watermelon seeds while eating pieces of fruit.
Thank you!
Hi, My husband has Primary Sclerosis cholangitis and I was wondering if you have remedies for the same.
Thanks, Namita
A young girl of 13 has been diagnosed with severe jaundice. Yellow skin, yellow eyes…the local doctor has prescribed rest! Her mother is frantic with worry. What should I tell her?
Lana, there are 2 things that may help:
1. Lots of lemon juice.
2. Being in sunlight.
Lana;
About the 13 year old with jaundice;
Normally jaundice associated with Liver problems; Google “jaundice causes” and you’ll see a number of liver associated issues. But for a 13 year old, one of the viruses that cause Hepatitis (A, B, C and D).
Earth Clinic has a lot on Hep. “Oscar” writes about the benefits of BHT and much is on the “Ailments” section under Hepatitis or the Remedies section under BHT.
I’m big on Colloidal Silver and if this were me, if I had jaundice, I’d immediately take a quarter glass of CS three times daily to kill the virus….assuming it is a virus.
When I had severe Hep A, I was offered Tylenol at the ER, and then many times by nurses after hospitalization. Fortunately, I had heard Dr. Rosenberg tell how Tylenol, which was advised to be given to children with fevers instead of aspirin in the 80's, was causing liver failure. My own pediatric doctors told me the link between Reyes Syndrome and aspirin was not proven, so I infrequently gave my children baby aspirin on the rare occasions when it seemed needed. I believe refusing to take any Tylenol in the hospital may be one of the reasons I survived.
Rsw: Prior to receiving 2 units of blood transfusion, the nurse recommended Tylenol (to help prevent reaction) but I had read of toxicity issues so I mentioned the likely possibility of sickened liver and ask for half a tab. Some time ago I tried Ibuprofen but it caused venous stress so I dropped it. For inflammation I currently take Celadrin and Flax Oil.
Thanks, Timh,
This is the first time I have heard about Celadrin, but I looked it up and it looks good! Do you take the capsules or the topical cream? I have Flax Oil and I take curcumin that has enhanced absorption, although I don't notice much difference with it. Supposedly a good brand but doesn't seem to work for me.
Hope you are doing well. Your recent posts seem to be indicating some improvement. Yeah! Thanks so much for the pointing out the Celadrin. I will put it on my list!
Rsw: Your concern is very much appreciated and of course makes me hope all is good w/ you. I caught myself being overoptimistic in one of my recent post as my improvements seem to always get overshadowed by the progressive nature of my illness as I know that death is near… until Dave from Fountain Inn, Sc (shoutout “thanks a million Dave”) posted info about Calcium 2 AEP (of which I somehow have never heard of) so I started 4 caps daily on Monday w/ immediate and cumulative results as of today. The benefits info has proved 100% correct in my toxic condition. So my hope for sufficient recovery is gaining.
I take 1 350mg Celadrin softgel daily w/ noticeable results. I also take Turmeric when I have it in stock. Eating Pineapple is also good anti-inflammatory.
Can you find india grocery? We need chuna.
I read that the best coconut oil to use in therapy is ORGANIC UNREFINED COCONUT OIL
Do you have a cure for renal failure? I know one has to alkalize the blood. I need to know how.
Hello Martin,
You say you are looking for alkalizing formulas…the how to do it…just go to "Remedies" on Earth Clinic and under "A" you'll find alkalizing formulas…all Ted's stuff. I know this renal failure issue is frightening but keep up the fight and never quit looking and trying out solutions.
1/2-1 tsp baking soda, 1/2 hr before meals and bed.
What does the baking soda help for?
Baking soda is not advised just before meals as it is highly alkaline and therefore interferes with stomach acids required for good digestion.
Your post on this subject is very instructive. I am suffering from hepatitis B infection. I tried alpha lipoic acid and milk thistle but each time I take them, I come down with serious abdominal pain. I had to stop the medication. But I am afraid that my liver is at risk. Advice me before please.
My husband was diagnosed with fatty liver; started routine of ALA, selenium, milk thistle 2 weeks now; also suffers from nausea, dry heaves. Any idea of a projected time for any improvement or is that just a futile wish on my part? Acites is horrible, 9 liters removed last time; the water pills are not working
Lynn: Definitely add SAM-e to the protocol your currently using. L-Carnitine is also indicated for fatty liver. This should help.
The following abstracts may be applicable for your husbands condition and gives an approximation of an expected response time.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22804755
https://www.jpp.krakow.pl/journal/archive/02_12/pdf/35_02_12_article.pdf
Melatonin is liver protective and is naturally produced by the body, but production declines as we age.
Melatonin also helps protect the stomach.
Melatonin has a very good safety profile.
Art
I went through something similar with nausea and some chest pain as well. Liver flushes and coffee enemas are the fastest cure for fatty liver and nausea. It may take doing a few of them to get the best results.
Fatty liver and ALA: I need more information about ALA and selenium; how do we know it is working? Will normal liver enzymes show up in a blood panel test in a few months? Am just flying blind here…
Lynn,
I was also diagnosed with fatty liver disease, and found the thing that helped me the most is organic, non-GMO soy lecithin granules. I took 2 teaspoons in the morning for two days and the liver discomfort was gone. I also added milk thistle, ALA and Selenium after a while along with ACV. I have only minor occasional discomfort now, usually when I eat too many bad foods.
Look up gerson therapy.
I am using the plan with ALA and Milk thistle on my father who got his liver damaged from a dose of chemo therapy while his bioduct stent was clogged and it damaged his liver and kidneys.
We are having problems with him swallowing pills and I need to know if it is safe to take the contents of the ALA out of the capsule and put it in something like applesauce for him to take.
Please Help, William
Dear William, We have done this with many different supplements for my children, though we have never used ALA. Since the medicine will still be going straight to the stomach, it seems like it should be fine. ~Mama to Many~
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I have read a lot on the Budwig diet and I got the book.
??? Is it safe to do the Flax seed oil and cottage cheese plan along with doing the ALA , SAMe , L Carnatine, Milk thistle and the other item that were mentioned????
Hardest thing to get under control is my fathers Sodium level dropping toooo low and the retention of fluids.
Need some good advise, Doctors are not helping anymore they have given up on my father. Can’t understand it his blood pressure is great and heart is in great shape along with his lungs.
Reishi Mushroom Tea
I was diagnosed with Hep-C in November 2014.
I have been taking Goldenseal and everyday detox liver tea simmer together with honey, lemon is good too. Milk Thistle as well. I take Echineacha 400 mg 2 caps daily to build your immune system to help fight the virus.. I am feeling better. I have always done natural remedys/herbs all of my life..The hot tea settles smoothly in my body and I am not nauseated when I keep drinking it.
First off, Ascites isn't cancer, it's the fluid leaking out of the damaged blood vessels and spilling the liquid into the surrounding tissue……
Secondly, STOP EATING ANIMAL PRODUCTS. Use a whole food diet of plant based materials and fresh/natural/organic/etc foods. Don't eat things from packages. Shop the outside edge of the supermarket and stock up on fruits and veggies. Limit salt to no more than 2,000 mg a day. It's hard when eating processed food, just to warn ya!
Thirdly, Supplements are great. Sam-e, seleium, milk thistle, vit C. Drinking hot (warm) lemon water first thing out of bed is great. Also coffee enemas are helpful, but graphic. I tend to stay away.
Fourthly, I'm no doctor. I'm telling you what worked for me!
Anyone have an opinion on food grade 35% hydrogen peroxide, baking soda or borax?
Ascities is NOT stomach cancer. It is the accumulation of fluid in the peritoneal cavity, causing abdominal swelling. Please do not scare people with your false information.
Green juices are the only way to help the liver to start healing itself. Then, milk thistle and raw garlic after stress is taken off liver and healing has begun.
Oh my gosh. Ascites is definitely not terminal stomach cancer. PLEASE do not listen to any of these people and get your own information from MEDICAL sites, not random people.
Melatonin can irritate the stomach, check warnings first.
I've read many articles about melatonin, it can cause irritation to the stomach…all of you check your facts.
In reply to Jerry R. (Sugar Land, Texas),
Yes, checking facts is important! Melatonin is on my list of very useful supplements for multiple health issues. Here are several abstracts and studies on melatonin suggesting it is gastroprotective among many other health benefits. Something that might be expected from a hormone that is naturally produced by the human body:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23480366
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22959068
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23516871
https://www.wjgnet.com/2150-5349/full/v1/i5/102.htm
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21342246
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19067786
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19522738
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18212399
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18078447
https://www.jpp.krakow.pl/journal/archive/09_07/pdf/381_09_07_article.pdf
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17523403
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17163185
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27919824
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28777367
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5472373/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25092036
https://www.wjgnet.com/1007-9327/full/v20/i10/2492.htm
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23653274
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20939818
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25388914
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24251671
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24697035
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22550854
https://www.jpp.krakow.pl/journal/archive/10_11/pdf/521_10_11_article.pdf
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21362032
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24107454
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20443220
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18812629
Art
I delivered a baby in seventh month. After one month my gall bladder was removed. And for the past three months I am suffering from liver damage. I had yellow eyes for a month but I thought it is because of lack of sun. Earlier I never took any allopathy medicines. One fine day I was hospitalized with liver damage and they said I am under nourished and put all kinds of fluids with Iv. My body was totally swollen with big stomach and elephant like legs. I had to go for paracentesis two times so far. Now the swelling of legs is totally came down but my stomach is still huge. They also suggested liver transplant with 50% chances. I am 29 yrs and I hv 6 yrs old son, and two daughters 4 and half and the small one is 8 months. Can some body help me? Can somebody tell me can I drain my stomach with home remedies? Can repair my liver with home remedies? I am vivid reader of EC and I always tell my friends to look for home remedies on EC. I want to be healthy for my kids. I do home schooling and natural food freak
Dandelion is beneficial to the liver. If you eat the leaves is will help you to get read of extra water in your tissues. Search the web for more info on Dandelion and other plants that support the liver.
You have to consider Swedish bitter internally and also externally as a compress on the liver -it may fix the jaundice. It is possible that after the bladder surgery some of the bile ducts got blocked (inflammation or bad surgery)
@Tracy: Here is a link https://www.liversupport.com/ that provides lots of info as well as products specifically helpful for liver conditions. Also, Swanson Foods has a formula "Milk Thistle Combination" that I personally recommend in your condition as it will help rebuild the liver as well as strengthen the kidneys and promote diuresis. Also on the must list is Cooked or Raw Liver. Some find cooked liver difficult to eat, but I have found the cooked chicken liver at KFC (Cournel's Recipe) to be more in the direction of delicious. Raw Liver Glandular or Liquid Liver Extract is a supplement taken by mouth and will greatly increase liver cell regeneration when used in combination with the herbal formula of your choice.
Milk Thistle is known to help in liver damage. I am not sure if it could be very effective in your situation but it's worth a try. Let your Doctor be aware if you want to try it.
Natural tablets called Liver Lean.
Hi, I am new to this site and while it has a wealth of information I think I am in need of some advice and guidance. I am a cancer survivor but only learned about alternative treatments after the radical mastectomy and chemo but at least now if it comes back I know I won't go that route. The advice I need is for a good friend that has liver disease. He has no insurance and not much money and the doctors have given him 6 months. He has done some chemo (I don't know why, it's not cancer) but it's been several months. He does not have hepititis. I firmly believe that there is still hope for him but am a little overwhelmed with so much information. For instance, I don't think he should do a strong detox for fear of overloading his already damaged liver so what would be a safe, slow detox for him? What all treatments here should I try? A few? All of them together? I certainly don't want to make the poor man worse! Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Thanks
Depending on what kind of liver disease your friend has, there are two treatments that have given success. Dr. Burt Berkson (google him for more information) has used Alpha Lipoic Acid and low dose naltrexone to regenerate and heal liver disease. Oscar, on this site under Hep C & B and other lipid coated viral diseases, has a BHT program that has worked for many, including himself. These therapies are NOT used together. The BHT works best by itself or with a few vitamins or supplements. (See what Oscar recommends, but I think he mainly stresses BHT by itself, at least in the morning with water only. ). The ALA and LDN work as a separate therapy, not in conjunction with the BHT. Best wishes.
Thanks so much! That was what I needed to know! I decided to do the Milk Thistle, Alpha lipoic acid and selinum combo. He said the damage is from heavy metals mostly and probably fatty liver as well (I suspect). I am having him drink 1Tbls baking soda, 2 Tbls apple cider vinager in 8 oz. of good water each morning. I want him to take some cold pressed, organic flax seed oil and organic virgin coconut oil but I don’t know the proper amounts for those yet. I am having him use the coconut oil as his only cooking oil tho. My health food store has PH water so I got 4 gallons to start and also Acqua Panna spring water because they sell it in glass bottles. Starting out having him take 500 mg Milk thistle (the one I bought also has liver powder) with breakfast and lunch and will build up to 900 mg per dose. Also 300mg Alpha lipoic acid 2x a day and Selinium 200 MICRO grams 2x a day. There seems to be some confusion as to the correct amout of Selinium to give, depending on which post you read. Some say micro grams and some say milli grams so I figured starting with the lowest dose would be the safest route. I got him a good multi vitamin and extra C and B complex. He is to eat fresh organic vegitables, as much raw as possible. Good water, dandilion root tea and green tea. No processed foods, no canned foods, no sugar of any kind so fruit extracts only. Not much meat and it must be drug free and GMO free. After a few weeks if he seems like he is able I wanted to try the beet root protocal altho it scares me a little because I’m afraid it might tax his liver too much so we will see. Well this is the plan thus far. If you notice something we should be doing but aren’t please let me know. I will let you know how it goes. Thanks again!
Hi, you should google for cannabis oil. It treats almost every ailment. I know it isn't available everywhere but when you want it you will get it! In the Netherlands it is 'accepted' to grow 5 plants if there is a medicinal need for it. When you can grow the plants you can make the oil yourself. I already saw some American websites selling products with cannabinoiden but they are very expensive! All legal products with cannabinoiden are made under license of a patend which is owned by the US government.
CB: thc is medicinal when raw. When heated thc is hallucigenic. Cannabinoids are medicinal either raw or heated. Many reviews say that cold pressed hemp oil is beneficial even though the raw thc and cannabinoids are miniscule.
Hi, My father 72 has HCV and his liver has stopped working, After finding some spots on his liver he has had Chemo. Since then he hs become very skinny and fluid retention pills are not able to keep up with the amount of fluid being produced. Has anybody any suggestions to help?
I'm not a Dr. but if he were my father I would get him off chemo ASAP and put him on a glass of water with 1/4 teaspoon of sea salt 3x day. Then I would have him go on alpha lipoic acid 100 mgs 3x day and acetyl L carnitine 200 mgs 3 x a day and then eat only organic foods and not much meat but do eat some and only natural meats… NO antibiotics or drugs fed animals… Also 200-400 mgs plant based selenium if very important. Depending on his weight drink 2-4 quarts of good water. Milk thistle about 500 mgs a day increase to 100 mgs… Don't give up! I beat stage 4 cirrhosis and cured it in 5 months and drs said it couldn't be done.
I would like to add this to the excellent advice offered by Mr. Rhee. Dr. Burt Berkson is THE expert in treating liver disease and has many videos on the Internet with his treatment protocol. He has had his own office for years in Los Cruses, NM. He began his career by saving the lives of two people who had eaten poison mushrooms and was told to document their deaths. Instead, he contacted the CDC, got the necessary drugs, treated the patients and they are both alive today thanks to Dr. Berkson. For his efforts, his supervising doctors had no interest in what he had done to save the lives of these two people, and instead criticized him for not following orders.
My mother 65 years old is suffering from liver cirrhosis. She is obese 101 kgs. Lately she has developed accumulation of water in her stomach, due to which she is having lot of problem. Doctors have advised her for liver transplant.
I am not sure in her condition – how she will bear the transplant. I was told before the transplant, she needs to reduce her weight by minimum 20 kgs, which is possible by inserting a balloon to avoid her from eating and there by reduce the weight.
Is there any alternate therapy by which we can make her liver function again?
Yes, there are many effective natural remedies for liver disease.
Read the E.C. page for more info here
https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/cirrhosis.html
B: Yes there are several helpful remedies to get the liver back to much better.
Here is the E.C. link for more info
https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/cirrhosis.html
Hello. I have just been diagnosed with stage four liver disease also. Am very interested in hearing how you healed yourself from this. Doctors have no real answers or hope, but I am not ready to give up. I had a biopsy that showed mild activity cirrhosis and inflammation. I have had a kidney transplant and the kidney function is declining. I have overcome three cancers. I have done a liver friendly diet for about 16 months. Diagnosis was made only after I suggested liver, so I have no faith in any doctor. Have moderate to severe ascites, no jaundice….low blood counts, and tiredness. Any suggestions are welcomed. Am cautious about supplements as some have interactions with my immunosuppressant drugs. Thank you.
I would recommend looking into the Hulda Clark liver flush recipe as well as the coffee enema protocol as suggested by Dr Wilson. Both will be hugely helpful in detoxifying the liver which will in turn make it easier for your kidneys to heal.
check out https://www.liversupport.com/ for additional info.
The liver is remarkably restorative, so if you apply the precisely needed remedies you will get much better.
Also, for immediate help with the kidneys, drink Cranberry Juice or take Cranberry softgels, or supplement D-Mannose.
And to add to Steve’s suggestion of Coffee enemas, I always get best results by adding a few drops of otc Povidone Iodine.
check out https://www.liversupport.com/ for additional info.
The liver is remarkably restorative, so if you apply the precisely needed remedies you will get much better.
Also, for immediate help with the kidneys, drink Cranberry Juice or take Cranberry softgels, or supplement D-Mannose.
And to add to Steve’s suggestion of Coffee enemas, I always get best results by adding a few drops of otc Povidone Iodine.
My father is in India & the doctor said his liver has damage. Will pl show any medicine. How he can recover his liver? Pl help me. My father is 65 y old thanks
Dr. Burt Berkson has shown that the combination of low dose naltrexone and alpha Lipoic acid can heal the liver. You can see his videos if you google his name. You can also read about how he healed two people who were given no hope of living after ingesting poison mushrooms in Julia Schopick's book, "Honest Medicine. " He believes the ALA should be European sourced. Best wishes.
As a pharmacologically active opioid antagonist Naltrexone, LDN works by blocking opioid receptors, which in turn helps activate your body's immune system.
I'd have him take Reduced Glutathione supplements. This will detox and protect his liver thereby helping the body heal his liver.
What do you mean by "reduced Glutathone" supplements? Do you have a specific name? Thx much.
I mis-spelled it… Reduced glutathione. It essentially allows the body to bypass a conversion steps necessary when versus other forms of glutathione so used directly by the body. One of the reasons why acetaminophen damages the liver is because it depletes the liver of glutathione. When glutathione is depleted, great amount of damage is done to the liver.
Dear truth be told, I’m wondering of you have tried a dietary approach to your condition. I’m not a Dr but it is my understanding that carbohydrates such as grains, sugar, alcohol are hard on the liver and that it is possible to heal your liver with good fat: Eggs, calves liver, coconut oil, avocado, butter, olive oil, cod liver oil, etc. I know others have done apple/beet/carrot juice fasting with good results for liver support. Lecithin is another liver cure you can read about on here which is somewhat related to the fat cleanse.
There is also a section on this website devoted to treating a variety of viruses and I think you may find those options helpfull too. Some off the top of my head are colloidal or ionic silver, iodine, food grade h2o2, olive leaf, apple cider vinegar, aspirin, essiac tea, raw garlic, ginger, turmeric, chilli peppers etc. – lots of virus busting liver supporting options if you troll around this website a bit.
My dads old drinking buddy swears he cured himself of hep c by quitting alcohol and drinking kambucha tea instead. Probiotics are also good if you have ever taken antibiotics, since so much of our immunity comes from the friendly gut bacteria (they make vitamins for us, fight off infection, digest our food etc). Good bacteria like healthy fats like those mentioned above while bad bacteria and yeasts like sugars. Apple cider vinegar and kambucha tea are both good to support a healthy digestive tract but there are many options for getting good bacteria from probiotic yogurt, kefir, kimchee, and saurkrout.
Are you taking a muli mineral and multivitamin? Do you get enough sunlight to make vitamin d. I know jaundice in babies responds very well to light treatment which means the liver needs vitamin d to regenerate. Other viral diseases tend to respond to sun treatment as well. Dr Mercola highly recommends getting enough sun to keep your immunity up.
Two other websites I find infinitely helpful are westonaprice.org and mercola.com. I also like Dr Myhill’s website for specific nutritional recommendations.
I’m wishing you well again soon and I hope some of this information proves useful.
I have a giant hemangioma in my liver. It is only being watched but has begun to push against other organs creating some problems. Is there a dietary means to clean that up?
Check out the Hulda Clark liver flush and coffee enemas. Standard protocols for clearing stones and toxins from the liver/gallbladder.
I have over thirty of these on and in my liver… they called them simple liver cysts at first. I had the big ones, over a liter of liquid drained and they refilled that week. I had them surgically removed from the surface and new ones formed. They seem to be autoimmune.
Would love to hear some good testimonies and remedies ANYONE…?
Joy: Are these perhaps Tapeworm Cysts???
The standard liver support herbs are Milk Thistle Seed, Turmeric Root, Artichoke Leaves. How these would affect your condition, I don’t know, but will most likely improve your health. Inflammation would seem to be a major issue.
Joy, obviously something keeps causing it to come back. Maybe investigate what that might be and eliminate/modify that.
I had a gallbladder scan , a colonoscopy, a throat scope , while I was put out, and blood work, a CT scan , MRI , Lymph Check with imaging, and a bunch of other avenues checked before the surgery. I have candida battles, sensitivities , allergies, and take multi enzymes and papaya tabs, yogurt, coconut oii and flakes, multi vits& minerals, plus magnesium citrate twice a day , Lecithin, > milk thistle every couple days ( I get symptoms from it), I eat healthy, very little meat. Drink some lemon with ginger and tumeric , gives me a tiny crack on one side of mouth. I let that heal and then try it again.
Joy, I replied to you about the gelatin capsules… Sounds to me like you have sensitivities to the binders and fillers in your meds. I am extremely sensitive to manufactured glutamic acid (MSG). I cannot ingest gelatin capsules. I cannot eat yogurt. I had to get the magnesium powder because the magnesium citrate caused PVC (premature venrticular contractions) that felt, to me, like heart flutters. After all my tests that was the diagnosis I was given. I then found out about the “citrate”. It is processed from corn because it is cheaper than from citrus fruit. The FDA is not protecting us and I said earlier on this site that they should be renamed the Fool and Deceive Agency. I think you should stop taking all the processed things you are taking. Especially yogurt. The dairy cows are being fed GMO grains and grasses. As I mentioned, it has taken me over twenty years of piecemeal learning and it is difficult to “spit out” in a few sentences how I know what I’ve learned.
All of our fruits vegetables have been engineered to last longer. Corn and Soy are two of the deadliest ingredients in our food supply and they are in practically everything. They are being fed to critters we eat, get milk and eggs from and are difficult to digest. Nothing is safe. Moderation is essential.
I have to apologize for being so piecemeal but that is the nature of someone who has had two traumatic brain injuries… Comatose after one. From my experience, you seem to be ingesting things that are in conflict with each other. I don’t feel you could be “eating healthy” if you keep having problems. I have had to do a little research to use food as my medicine. This will have to be continued if you are REALLY interested… There is much information I could share but it will be piecemeal and I want to be thorough when I give it. It is important to stop eating raw fruits and vegetables because they are not digested well. They must be cooked to be easier to digest. What I’ve learned is contrary to what has been acceptable as “healthier eating”. Canned and frozen are better because they are picked at their peak and blanched.
Hello- I wonder if you have looked at any emotional triggers to this issue? We are mind body and spirit and I feel at the place in which we need to look at any bodily issues from that stand point. Just a thought to help you rule out. But mind has a lot to do with health. So liver is the seat of anger. Is there any unprocessed anger that could be bringing these back up? I want to say how brave you are. And to keep going. You are your own best resource and the more you get in tune with all of you, the better you'll be. Hang in there.
Kathy, I am REALLY interested on your findings on “healthy food”. Please keep posting, even piecemeal!
I had just posted my “last post” to Joy after reading what I posted because I think I was more confusing than helpful. I gave more explanation but lost my connection and lost what I had typed. I think I should have told her she sounded like she was sensitive to hidden sources of MSG instead of the binders and fillers in supplements (they can be made from genetically modified plants and are a hidden source). Those of us who recognize our sensitivity refer to “MSG” as any processed free glutamic acid. It is not Monosodium Glutamate but it does the same damage. It is in many different foods under many different names and everyone will react differently and it can be carcinogenic. I forget the rest of what I had said.
Hindsight is 20/20 and I learned my “cysts” wherever they were came from too many carbohydrates. All of our dairy (whether milk, cheese or butter) is from cows being fed genetically modified grains and/or grasses. I thought I was getting unadulterated whole milk in glass bottles from free-range, grass fed dairy cows. I not only had a hard time keeping my weight down but I kept getting more “cyst-like” blemishes. I knew they previously came from too many carbs but I was limiting my carb intake.
I called the dairy and asked if they were feeding their cows corn. They reluctantly replied “yes, along with the leaves”. Knowing the milk in glass bottles is safer I started getting 2% milk and my “cysts” reduced in size. I still eat butter but I get it without salt and use sea salt. I limit my cheese to 1/2-1oz. at a time. I don't know if you are familiar with the low carb diet but meat, eggs, cheese and butter are not supposed to have any carbs. This can't be true anymore because of what they are being fed but who has the money to do any testing? I don't believe there are any reliable labs anyway.
Boy, I got way off here… I don't know what you read or what I said that got your interest. I'm not real familiar with how postings work here but I'm going to try to “flag” this so I know when you reply. It's not good for me to sit here long and sometimes it upsets my husband.
Kathy, Not to worry, my brain has it’s own farting issues. That’s why I’m using so much coconut oil. Some days I have a special case of STUPID. I think you said food unprocessed and supplements were bad for me and it is, … But I still have to eat some if I want to stay alive. We are all being poisoned by the greed, so we have to pick and choose from this poison or that one. Which is the least toxic?
We are all doing our best at being human, trying to find answers for our issues and help our fellow man. I appreciate you trying to be of help to me…. Let Your JOY be Full.
PHEW, took me a long time to find this post.
I am in the process, I hope, of correcting a diagnosis of IBS and have to spend frequent time in the bathroom. Having had a breech vaginal delivery makes things difficult. I’m sure I’m a candidate for a colostomy but I do not want to live the rest of my life like that.
It’s hard to know what “eating healthy” is. What is good for one may not be good for someone else. I’ll just try to explain my thought processes of what I am doing and why. I could very well be wrong but I’m gonna try. I just started using coconut oil so I only use a sliver (about 1/2 tsp. )with my butter. This part was added after I started this… I only use sea salt with turmeric and ginger. I just read that cayenne pepper stops bleeding so I’ve starting using some of that.
I have damaged myself in a way that I need to replace the lining of my colon. There is about a two inch section that is not there. (actually that part is the rectum) The nerve cells are dead and I read that garlic helps regenerate the lining. I try to eat green beans (cooked well) and either carrots or cauliflower, chewing them up with a garlic clove.
Carrots are good for Vit. A, necessary for tissue repair. Cauliflower contains Vit. K needed for blood clotting and the green beans are a good source of magnesium that binds with protein before being absorbed in the intestines. It also offers some protection against MSG.
I then have a couple medium eggs with onions. Sometimes I have an ounch of cheese with them or I’ll have them on a small red potato with the skin, a sliver of butter (without salt) and a sliver of CO. I also use the sea salt with turmeric and ginger.
A long time ago I read that zits, “clogged pores” occur because of eating too many carbs and not enough Vit. A. Looking back, I had a hard time with my complexion at the same time I had reoccurring cysts on my ovaries and I had one behind my ear.
I hope this helps you a little. You did not reply so I don’t know what else to tell you. Please be aware that I have got to finish a course before the twenty-ninth and I do not maintain an internet connection. It’s taking me a long time because I cannot sit here long. I gave an explanation of what happened but because it has nothing to do with what EC is for, I don’t think it would be allowed. I wish I could email what I had typed. I saved it in case. ~Kathy
Hi Kathy from Happyville, You sound like you eat a healthy diet and have overcome a lot of obstacles. I added a full spectrum multi mineral lately to my intake and that has been helping. I also use two magnesium citrate a day and hope to add some potassium citrate soon. Maybe get some zip in my doo dah!
I use 3-7 tsp. A day of coconut oil plus coconut flakes without sweetener. I love the improvements in my health. Coconut oil is the only oil that doesn’t tax the liver. My skin is full of circulation and healthy color and plumped out, less wrinkles, dark circles, I have had since childhood, are lessening.
I started using the oil for the first time in Nov. or Dec. of 2012, after reading a book on Alzheimers.
I bought a coconut oil book recently and there is a candida flush diet in the book (3-7 days to complete it). I have to get some lime and try to adjust to it before going on the cleanse… Maybe in May. I had a chronic belly ache till I was 40 but rarely get one if I’m careful. Too much… too soon makes me lose ground in my recovery.
It says in the book that the coconut meat and oil heal the colon also, you said you have IBS—it polishes , cleans, helps restore the tone and helps ph and strengthens, nourishes the tissue from mouth to rectum.
I have lifelong candida issues (from my mother) and that affects the way your body processes food. You can eat and have little benefit. I’ve been on the health search for over 30 yrs. and overcame a lot of issues but age brings new battles to overcome.
Do you have cysts on the liver ? I have no other cysts. I plan to overcome them, maybe dandelion tea , our yard is full of the stuff.
It’s almost SPRING and a black bunny has made it through the winter out there eating dandelion greens. He showed up one day and stayed on.
Enjoy your posts . Very helpful to me
Hi De, I don't know if Joy is still available. I've tried to contact her through EC CS but never received a reply. The last she posted about her painful prolapse issue, I was dealing with mine. She posted about using Witch Hazel to "pull her bladder back up" or something similar and I was discovering that the "bladder prolapse" is actually stool accumulating and pushing against the vaginal wall. As soon as I could find her post about the problem, I tried to alert her to the fact that the "prolapse" was not her bladder. After I posted my findings, someone else posted in agreement with me.
It was Deidre that alerted me to possible toxic bowel. It was still the damaging effects of the gelatin capsules that culminated and contributed to my prolapse.
I was exposed to a poison 10 days ago that has hurt my liver. I have been flushing with lemon water several times a day. Milk thistle and dandelion root extract once a day in the am. Beet juice and fresh beets daily. The poison was an automotive oil eater, basically dissolves oil immediately. I am now having gallbladder pain and can feel a build up of gallstones. I’m drinking ACV and lemon water.
I have received 5 energy healing to great effect, but its still painful.
What else can I do to restore my liver and GB to healthy function. Do you think a Liver GB cleanse would be wise now or wait until the inflamation and pain recede?
Jennifer: The first antidote would be either Activated Charcoal or Bentonite to absorb the toxins so they don’t damage the body. Lemon, ACV, and Dandelion will only help the liver expel the poison back into the bloodstream, so I would advise NO on those. Milk Thistle Seed Extract and NAC for several days will help “detoxify” whatever the compound. D-Limonene boost Phase 1 & 2 Liver P-450 Detox Enzyme, so that would likely help.
Read the “warning” label and you might get some useful info.
Update any changes or progress.
Please stop taking NAC for a long time. Long term use of NAC has side effects. Check this website for info: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/09/070904175353.htm
I used this on my son for NAFLD and heavy metal chelation, paracetamol overdose, but after around one month dosage his body is getting very lean,skin very dark. In his CBP test his RBC, platelets went too high.
I have been doing coffee enemas for something similar. I am not sure if it helps. I feel better, the pressure is gone for about 2 hours before it comes back again. I think I will take the activated charcoal with plenty of rest. Watermelon freshly juiced and eating a daily avocado help reduce the pressure.
Another tip, stay away from gluten for a week. Try to eat only freash raw fruits but mostly veggies. Juicing carrots and green apples helps also reduce liver inflammation. The resuls are felt the next day. Try the following diet:
Breakfast, juice organic carrots and one green apple to make 16 ounces of juice. One egg cooked in coconut oil with mushrooms. Cut up one avacado to eat with eggs and mushrooms. Add onion or a touch of garlic if you like.
Lunch one pack of organic spinach eaten with the [unpasteurized] apple cider vinegar, sesame ginger, and olive oil dressing. Add raw onions, tomato, cut up a red pepper. Add turkey or chicken but a only an amount that will fit in the palm of your hand.
Dinner a big green leafy salad again with a variety of added raw veggies including an avocado. 3 small baked potatoes which I stir butter into in a separate bowl. A freashly made juice of carrots, tomatoes celary and one green pepper .
By the next morning you will feel much better. Try to do this as long as you can.
As of now, I really don’t have a choice. The pain and pressure seems to get worse, the more sugary things like doughnuts and coffee and pasta I have been eating the last few days.
Does anybody know if using a heating pad over your liver when sleeping will raise liver enzyme levels? Thank you.
Hi Timh; Please consider this: Stop the detox and chelation. It could be depleting vital nutrients.
Stop or minimize zinc supplementation. It could deplete copper too much and cause neuropathy from copper deficiency.
Discuss with Naturopath about getting B12 injections.
I’m concerned that the numbness could spread to your hands and organs. This happened to me, and I do not want it to happen to you.
Thanks Tim, I appreciate your consideration.
Ascorbic acid (Vit. C), in sufficiently high doses, staggered over the course of the 24 hour day, has the potential to do amazing things:
And a quote:
“Ascorbic acid is a potent detoxicant which counteracts and neutralizes the harmful effects of many poisons in the body. It will combat various inorganic poisons, such as mercury and arsenic, and it neutralizes the bad reactions of many organic poisons, drugs, and bacterial and animal toxins. Ascorbic acid detoxifies carbon monoxide, sulfur dioxide, and carcinogens….”
Hope this helps! –T.
Wayseer: Thanx for the tip on Vit-C. I have been using the “pureway” trade-name C plus the Swanson Ultra C (w/ bioflavonoid) but nothing substantial and cannot tolerate more than 1 grm per dose; so given the severity of my condition it seems as if I would indeed greatly benefit from some Liposheric C (which I have not yet tried).
Connie: have you not rather used the sublingual method for B-12 ?? over “injections”. My neuropathy hasn’t “spread” for some 12 yrs now, so I don’t expect this, but it could be possible. As for absorption, after taking only two doses of Nystatin my absorption and digestion seem greatly improved. As for Zinc, the ND recommended as very important, especially for immunity. I also take copper to maintain a balance. I always take EDTA at least 2 hrs away from other minerals. I guess it’s all a method of using medicinal allies to one’s own advantage. Without much for diagnostics one must be very sensitive as to how one “feels”.
I would like to no more I have tingling in hands mouth and throat
Have been trying many things but can not get much relief
Thanks for any info
Hi Every One, My Father is suffering from Liver cirrhosis and water accumulation started an year back. Since an year the water was suctioned for 7 times and Doctors now tell Liver transplant is the only way out. I cant take him to DR Berkson as I am from India. Can you help me with the dosages of ALA, selenium and milk thistle as well as any way out any any exists. I am emotionally down and need you help ASAP.
Hi Puneeth… Normally the Berkson protocol also includes ALA by IV several times a month, but his essential internal protocol is the following:
ALA — 300 mgs taken twice a day at mealtimes.
Selenium — 200 micrograms taken twice a day with meals.
Milk Thistle — 900 mgs taken twice a day at meals.
Dr Berkson also uses Low Dose Naltrexone, Cysteine and a full vitamin and mineral protocol as well in his remedy. Also taking all the B vitamins daily is important because ALA tends to use up the B vitamns in the body. And if you can’t go to Dr Berkson’s Clinic in New Mexico, then perhaps your local doctor in India can just contact him by email or phone to find out the exact details of how he administers ALA by IV so that your local doctor can do the IV procedure for your father locally in India. Here is Dr Berksons webstite:
https://drberkson.com/officeinfo.html
Have you looked into BHT? It could really help with this condition, according to results people are getting. But, I think it isn’t as effective when used with milk thistle extract, as I recall. –T.
Hi Bill, Thanks for you reply. Have some quick question regarding the dosage of Milk Thistle. is it 900mg per day or 900 X 2 per day?
Hi Puneeth… The dosage for Milk Thistle is 900 mgs which is taken twice a day. The total dosage per day is 1800 mgs.
Dear Friends, My wife is 53 years old and is suffering from liver cirrhosis. She has been in hospital for times and is now back at home. She has become very weak and requires help to be walk to the toilet, dining table etc. The doctors have said that she should undergo a liver transplant and it is frightfully expensive 20 Lakh Rupees and there is no gurantee if the operation wil be successful.
I am very worried for her. We have two small children (twin) girls of age 9 and I would have to sell everything that I have to put up for the operation. Also since she is soo weak, I am not sure if she they would be able to do a operation.
I have seen a Mail from Punneth who lives in Hyderabad and his father had a problem with his liver. Would want to know how if he got cured and also as to how to get ALA and the rest of the suggested remidial medicines.
Would greatly appreciate your help and advice.
Reggie
Dear Reggie from India, There have been some people reporting success with BHT [ butylated hydroxytoluene ] for advanced cases of liver damage. As sick as your wife is, she needs to use caution if she chooses to try this treatment. By that I mean start out with a very low dose of BHT and slowly work up to the larger doses discussed here and elsewhere. I would think no more than 50mg of BHT per day and over a week ramp up the dose used to 250mg of BHT per day. See how she does at 250mg per day for at least two weeks to see how it effects her. If her condition gets worse always lower the dose of BHT used. Here is what S. From Sacramento has to say about BHT and advanced liver disease as reported here in this forum:
I think this BHT treatment just might work for your wife also because of BHT`s proven and well documented ability to deactivate harmful chemical entities know as free radicals and reactive oxygen species. These harmful chemical entities are assoociated with liver damage and play a big role in causing such damage. The BHT has worked for S. From Sacramento and some others with very damaged livers also. Of course I can NOT guarantee success. But from what you have reported your wife is running out of other options….Oscar
Dear Oscar, Thank You for your reply. My wife has been diagnosed with liver cirrhosis grade II. She has never ever had alcohol in her life. Please let me know as to how does one get the BHT as recommended by you, in India. Is there a place that I can purchase this medicine from in India? Appreciate your reply. Regards, Reggie
Dear Reggie from India, Here is the website of a company that claims to be a ” Worldwide Distributor ” of BHT and other health supplements:
https://www.nutri.com/index.cfm/product/31_17/butylated-hydroxytoluene-bht.cfm
If for any reason that company does not sell to India try a google search to find one that does.
Also, do you know the cause of your wife`s cirrhosis ? What have the doctors told you the cause of your wife`s cirrhosis is ? I am surprised that these doctors are talking about a liver transplant for someone with stage 2 liver cirrhosis. Though obviously any cirrhosis is not good, stage 2 is not as bad as stage 4. Stage 4 is where S. From Sacramento was when he or she pulled through, got well with this BHT treatment. So don`t get so discouraged. I think there is a very good chance your wife can recover and am hoping this BHT can help her a lot. She should also be taking some vitamin B12 in a dose of 1mg per day. Vitamin B12 is sold in micrograms [ mcg ] dosages. One mg is the same as 1,000mcg. So do not confuse that. She wants to be taking 1,000mcg [ micrograms ] of vitamin B12 per day. Some vitamin C will also help. I think 500mg of vitamin C is a safe and effective dose to take. Also, a low fat diet is recommended for people with liver disease. Eating a healthy diet with some moderate use of vitamins can go a long ways in helping people with liver disease. If she has hepatitis vitamin E supplements should NOT be taken. Does your wife have hepatitis ? Has she been tested for hepatitis B and C or not ? It is important to know what caused this cirrhosis of her liver to occur. The BHT can also help a lot with hepatitis B and C. Give the BHT a try along with the vitamins I discussed. 250mg of BHT with water on an empty stomach has worked for many people. If she tolerates that dosage well it may help to go to the two doses of BHT per day. But only if she tolerates the one dose per day with no problems. There is THE NEW BHT CURES GROUP if you wish to join. I am a moderator there and there are other people there focusing on helping people with liver disease. Here is that website:
https://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/The_New_BHT_Cures_Group/
Stay in touch and keep this forum updated on your wife`s condition. I very much hope this BHT treatment works as well for your wife as it has for many other people. Sincerely, …Oscar
Hi Raggie, I am in Mumbai and I had procured BHT some time ago and it is for ” LAB USE ONLY “. If Oscar could confirm for it’s use, and if you have some one to collect it from me, I will be more than happy to give it. Baldev (09322887066)
Dear Mr Baldev, Thank You So Much, Shall call and speak with you and also shall make arrangements for some one to collect it from you.
Dear Oscar, My wife was tested for Hepatitis B&C and it was negative. The doctors do not know as to what is the cause of the Cirrhosis. One Gastro doctor who we were consulting said that it could be due to fatty liver. I will surely join the group and keep you updated about the health of my wife. I will definitely like to use your recommendation as mentioned in your mail.
Thank You So Much
Reggie
dear reggie I have been reading the desperate lamentations for your wife for some time and I feel as though I may be of some assistance I dont mean to come across as a prosecutor who is condemning you but you have to consider that whatever you have been doing is not effective the food you are eating going to the hospital talking to doctors 6 years ago I did the same things 1 indians tend to over cook their foods inactivating the medicinal properties in the spices 2 grains beans peas and lentils dont want to be food they want to be a plant herbivores eat them during the summer when they are growing after they mature the plant makes toxins called leptins that poison whoever eats them scientists have discovered this while doing research in labs when they are growing the toxins would interfere with the growth
3 paleontologists have discovered in sites all over the world that when our hunter gatherer ancestors changed over to agriculture the bones declined 4 an accumlation of free radical damage 5 every day some tissues are being replaced when we dont get enough nutrients the organs get smaller and weaker the tissues require oils proteins and nutrients 6 dieting is for fat people not for sick people sick people tend to diet they need the strength to get well 7 taking 4 or 5 or 40 or 50 grams of remedies is not going to fix eating 4 or 500 grams of bad food the wrong way these are the solutions 1 organic india began over 20 years ago with 10 farms today they have over 200, 000 get some of their produce the best vegetable is baby leaves because they contain growth factors the best fruit are berries grind them up in the blender with 1 gallon of water take 1 cup every hour if they dont have them get whatever raw organic produce you can 2 the dosage is not tied to the day but to the water the more water she drinks the more dosages she can take like washing clothes not enough water and the clothes dont get clean if she gets bad detox reactions reduce the dosage and maintain or increase the water the phytochemicals in the organic fruits and vegetables kill the bad guys the acids attach to the bad stuff and the water washes them away 3 to the 1 gallon of water add 4 grams of sun dried sea salt or himalayan salt add 4 grams dead sea salt if you can get it add cayenne powder or raw fresh organic chilis have her chew raw organic whole root turmeric let that dissolve through her gums 4 to rebuild the tissues she is going to need efas and proteins take 15 grams a day of organic cold pressed flax oil with 15 grams a day of organic coconut oil taken together in divided dosages the wall of every cell is made from the efas 3 6 9 too much 9 cause hardening of the arteries too much 6 causes them to become brittle too little 3 is what most people have if you cannot get the flax oil it is very important that you get omega 3s not from fish that is for another purpose but from plants 5 the proteins that give strength to the tissues are called bioactive bcaas with their cofactors the best and easiest and most affordable is nondenatured microfiltered whey protein either concentrate or isolate the protein in mothers milk is 60% this type of protein if you can get this have her take 60 grams a day in divided doses with the organic fruits and vegetables and water do not buy any whey protein that does not say non or undenatured because it wont work if you cannot get this get raw yogurt from grass fed organic cows or goats the fermentation increases the bioactive bcaas if you cannot get this get try to get some raw proteins from somewhere 60 grams a day she is going to need these types of proteins to rebuild her liver and other tissues raw sprouted and fermented plant proteins contain these type of proteins
7 to recap the phytochemicals in the raw organic produce kill the bad guys and provide free radical protection the acids in the raw organic produce attach to the bad stuff the water washes it away the oils 3 6 9 and the bioactive bcaas with their cofactors rebuild the small and weak liver and other tissues 1 more idea the very best and easiest remedy you can take is eggs from pastured hens eaten raw not grinded up in the blender or stirred with a fork crack the yolk with her teeth the yolk should be firm and orange if the yolk is soft and yellow do not buy them these types of eggs when taken raw provide all the oils and proteins including the bioactive bcaas with their cofactors and nutrients because the egg turns into an animal take 1 every hour another idea that is very easy is colostrum that too needs to be dissolved through the gums like raw organic whole root turmeric because it is not absorbed through the digestive tract make sure you purchase the colostrum from a reputable company because it has to be prepared perfectly from start to finish another good idea is that if you can get the superfoods shipped there they are extremely beneficial hawaiin spirulina do not get the one from india because it is contaminated japanese or south korean chlorella raw organic cocoa powder dessicated liver would be very beneficial also raw fermented cod and skate liver oils another good idea would be to get raw liver from organic grass fed cows eat that raw it tastes bad but is very beneficial I hope that what I have told you cures your beloved wife for carbs take raw honey and sun dried organic sugar called succanet do not eat any cooked food except organic tomatoes for the lycopene.
Dear Mike, Thank You so much for writing in. Shall surely use your input. Shall keep you and the team posted about her progress. Regards, Reggie
Dear Reggie, I have great sympathy for your wife's predicament and I'm sure she has had numerous tests to find out why she has cirrhosis, but possible that an iron storage disorder could be implicated. Apparently, severe liver damage occurs above ferritin levels of 1000.
My liver enzymes were each close to 200. I had 5 monthly phlebotomies since last winter and my enzymes are 46 and 75 and still going down… It takes iron out of your system and your liver is happier… Plus brand new blood… and no drugs involved…
Hello Reggie,
What kind of medicines you need from USA? and which you do not get in India. Please let me know, I can send it. My friend's parents are coming to Hyderabad on 3rd October. I can buy it here and send it to you. Please reply immediately.
Its worth while googling RSO Rick Simpson Oil and cancer. If you are in India then finding the ingredients to make some oil or at least some cannabis butter. many 'terminal patients' who'd been sent home to die by their doctors have had the cancer completely clear up By putting drop of oil under their tongue a few times a day. Amazing results!
I have HCV and my liver has been thru a lot over the years but I've also been fasting and juicing regularly for 3 decades. Which maybe why I'm still alive when many of my old friends aren't. Sadly where I live it's very illegal to use cannabis oil.
I recommend taking some turmeric everyday and selenium, milk thistle, and ALA if u can get some (I mix a drink everyday of turmeric cinnamon cayenne black pepper and flaxseed oil in water or freshly juiced veg which goes down very nicely and can feel it doing good inside) best of luck to you both.
If you are still looking for it, you can get it off eBay, Amazon, or online in general. I mean let me know what's up.
I'm currently taking milk thistle and Lotrel for high blood pressure. Will this interfere if I start on the BHT regimen? Thanks
hi my name is Jamie and my brother has A.L.L leukemia and after about 8 rounds of chemo he now has liver damage and kidney problems. I have been reading about the A.L.A milk thistle and selenium and would like to know if we can treat him with this combination will the fact that he has leukemia change anything and if I can give him this combination, what is the does please help …..as of yesterday the hospital he is in is saying there is nothing else they can do for him.
I am leaving to go to him tomorrow and I have gotten the selenium 200mcg the milk thistle in 1300 mg and the A.L.A in 600 mg please let me know asap thank you.
I would certainly try it. See also castor oil packs on this site. Very helpful for the liver.
Hi Bill, Where can I buy milk thistle in the Philippines?
After getting a heads-up from an E.C. member on the power of Magnet Therapy a few days ago, I realized that my Liver issues needed the extra power so I have been using a very strong magnet for about 4 days now. Daily wearing a Magnetic Belt, increasing Milk Thistle, adding Artichoke and Turmeric over the last few months hasn’t seemed to provide much relief. Also, I have gone back to a Liver Tonic designed by the master herbalist Dr. Christopher as I have had good results in the past. These two treatment protocols have markedly and speedily increased my over all health and vitality.
The Dr. Christopher Liver/Gallbladder Formula is:
Prickily Ash Bark – Peppermint leaves – Ginger Root -Barberry Bark – Wild Yam Root – Cramp Bark – Catnip. I couldn’t purchase the Catnip, and added Chaparral – Schizandra Berries – Artichoke Leaves. One small spoon twice daily and I can feel the difference. I use the menthol cough-drops occasionally and take D-Limonene daily to keep those green cholesterol stones melted. Also use Lecethin and extra Choline/Inositol. Will soon do the dreaded Gallbladder Flush and report results.
Specifically, my B. P. reading tonight was 128/78 which is way down from 168/108 range 3 weeks ago and many months prior. Evidently the blood flow from scarred and fatty liver tissue obstructs not only bile flow but also blood flow affecting B. P. Throughout the body. I also place the strong magnet over the heart area (I have for many months occasional low pain here despite CoQ10 & Carnitine) for only a few moments. Hulda Clark warns not to use magnets on heart but I only seem to have benefited.
I am experimenting the strong magnet on different areas of the body for detox w/ good results so far (except the die-off of headache and kidney pain).
For once in the last 2 yrs, I am beginning to see a glimpse of hope in recovering at least a sustainable level of health, all in the item of that one important organ —the Liver.
Hi Timh, Wow! Congratulations to you. All your perseverence is paying off! I did a search on the Dr. Christopher formula. It has so many good reviews I just may try that. I too, use a magnet belt everyday. It’s this awesome magnet belt with far infrared heat and emf protection in it as well. It’s expensive but worth it! It really makes a difference.
Again, congratulations on making a breakthrough! Lisa
Hi Timw of Louisville, You have made my day with your post. I have been worried about you for a long time now, and am so happy to hear that you have found something that is improving your health. I’m sure many others share my best wishes. You have helped so many people with your time, advice and experience, and it’s wonderful to hear that things are looking up for you. Take care.
Lisa, thank you very much for your concern and encouragement, which definitely plays a role in the healing process. I still feel the blockage in the Gallbladder and have begun juice fast as of now and will flush tomorrow night; if successful I will have a standing chance at winning the battle against heavy metals, parasites, and fungal infection.
Yes, for now it is a breakthrough; I actually feel like half a man standing w/ muscle and bones. I can actually feel the presence of STATURE which has been missing I don’t know how many yrs.
As for Dr. Christopher, I suppose ALL his various formulas are beneficial. I think the Nature’s Way Kidney/Bladder formula is his, and it does restore my kidney functions which are continuously compromised.
Thanks again and good health to you.
I am thrilled for you. And have been praying!
Hi Timh, I think it’s so awesome how many people have responded to your post! And think of all those that are sending their positive thoughts your way and haven’t posted! This definitely plays a positive role in healing. You have Gregg Braden, Bruce Lipton, Deepak Chopra, Marianne Williamson and so many present day voices speaking on this… Not only have you made a breakthrough for yourself but you raise the light for others as well! Whenever anyone has a breakthrough we give strength and encouragement to those who are searching themselves. I know when I read on EC from a woman who said she no longer had fibromyalgia due to stem cell therapy, it opened a whole new avenue of hope for me which led me to my answer! May everyone be encouraged and know the answers are there, we only need to be open to them. Blessings on all, Lisa
Timh, I don’t know if you have ever used or researched melatonin, as it is highly protective of the liver through multiple pathways, and like arginine and nac, has a very good safety profile, probably even better than nac or arginine. Melatonin is produced naturally by the human body, but that production diminishes with age. Melatonin receptors are now thought to exist throughout the body. Melatonin is also anti-inflammatory as well as a potent antioxidant and it also increases the natural antioxidants of the body, such as SOD and glutathione which are highly protective of the body as a whole.
Here is an article that gives a partial description of melatonin’s potential as relates to liver protection:
https://www.wjgnet.com/1007-9327/full/v16/i48/6087.htm
There are many studies showing multiple health benefits from pharmacological dosing of melatonin in humans. From the studies I have read, melatonin appears to be safe even at very high dosing levels. I have taken as much as 70 mg per day for several months myself, but I have seen studies where as little as 10 mg per day has shown benefit in humans.
Melatonin is also protective of the brain and kidneys and shows potential to be helpful in multiple health issues.
Here is a study where melatonin was used on patients with NASH using a very low dose of only 10 mg per day total with positive results:
https://www.jpp.krakow.pl/journal/archive/12_10/pdf/705_12_10_article.pdf
I have seen other studies where it has shown itself to be helpful for NAFLD also. Just do appropriate searches and the benefits will become readilly apparent. There are hundreds of melatonin studies which should leave little doubt as to the potential health benefits and safety of melatonin.
Lastly, melatonin is relatively cheap.
I hope this information may be of some use to you!
Art
Art, thanx very much for the Melatonin info; and the links. Having first began loosing my health as far back as 1993-4 I started using Melatonin I think in 1996 w/ noticeable results. As a matter-of-fact, I was so ill in those times that I had lost sense of night/day and the seasons; and when I started the M those senses were immediately restored; I’ve been using 3-6mg daily ever since. A few yrs ago it was speculated that low dose M was sufficient for daily use, but now it seems the towel is in for higher doses especially in disease states. I have been considering upping my dose and now that you’ve informed me I certainly will.
Does 5HTP stimulate Melatonin release by the Pineal??? For a sleep aid, I have recently been using 5HTP as M doesn’t seem to work as it once did in my case.
Thanx again as I am desperate for solutions to get out of these trenches, or pass on to a better life.
Timh, Here is a link to a 2010 study abstract where children with DMD were given 70mg of melatonin per day.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20210854
Here is a followup abstract from 2011:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21515247
It was a very small study, but the results were fairly impressive. Again, no serious side effects. I’m not sure about 5HTP, but L-Tryptophan will increase melatonin levels. It is however significantly more expensive than melatonin. For me, 5HTP seems to have a relaxing effect. It puts me in mind of GABA in terms of the way it makes me feel.
As far as working as a sleep aid, melatonin only helps me fall asleep, but I can easily wake up an hour or two later. I think melatonin can help break the viscious cycle of runaway inflammation and oxidation, that is prevalent in so many disease states, and allow the body to get closer to a healing state. As long as inflammation and oxidation are feeding on each other in that cycle, healing is difficult if not completely impossible imo. It may allow everything else you are trying, to just get enough of an edge on inflammation and oxidation to increase your rate of healing and help you on your road to recovery. Good luck!
Art
Hi Timw from Louisville, The Yahoo LDN Group has many personal accounts of people who were in similar condition as you describe, and have done much better on LDN. (www.ldninfo.org). It is an immune modulator and allows the body to do a better job at healing itself. It can be taken with any other drugs except opiate based ones, because it occupies the same receptors and will always get there first, which can throw a person on opiates into an dangerous withdrawal. It is like a vitamin pill and needs to be taken daily, but the dose is very small. It has no side effects except vivid dreams for a week or so, and a few have difficulty sleeping (most sleep much better), in which case it can be taken in the morning instead of at night. It is sometimes difficult to get a prescription unless the MD is LDN literate, some MD’s will prescribe with a phone interview after receiving records, or can be ordered at ALLDAYChemist. Com, India, and others. You take 1.5 mg to 4.5 mg per day. An MD can prescribe the pills which cost about $30 per month or 50 mg pills can be mixed with 50 ml distilled water to yield 1 mg LDN per 1 ml solution. The desired dose is withdrawn with a child’s medicine dropper. I have Julia Schopick’s book, “Honest Medicine, ” which describes it (and Alpha Lipoic Acid) and I can mail it to you, if you want to read it. My email is autoimmuneohio(at)yahoo.com if you want any additional information. Hang in there. We are all on your team.
Rsw, thanks for the tip on LDN. I have familiarized myself w/ this drug here on E. C. and have considered it very possibly a canditate for resolution in my difficult case; as a matter of fact I told myself today that my next Dr visit would include mentioning this item. I am certain I have suffered from some type hepatitis as natural treatments bring temporary resolve; from this I suppose Chronic Active Autoimmune Hepatitis. Then there’s the chronic infections that are severe to the point of disability. I currently take many different natural antibiotics and immune boosters as well as Thymus support all w/ negligible results. Have recently had fair results w/ Triple Mushroom Extract and am going to research those expensive Beta Glucan and Active Hexose Correlated Compounds among other specialty mushroom products. If anyone has had good results w/ these please respond w/ your story.
I have, in times past, had good results w/ 7-Keto DHEA for immune balancing but as of late EVERYTHING has gone down hill, but I still take at least Pregnenalone or regular DHEA.
For now, I must find a physician that will treat folks in my category of “Chronic Fatigue”; if not I will revert to the long distance rout that you suggest.
Thanx very much again as I am currently much in need. Hope you are well.
Art, thanx again as I am definitely suffering the inflammation and oxidation cycle. 2 yrs ago my cytokines were off the chart. My oxidative stress levels are so bad that I have Peripheral Neuropathy so bad that I require a can to walk. I cannot experience the sense of pleasure, a condition I think is labeled “a-hedonia”; same goes for peace & relaxation.
I do feel the benefit of the two 3mg dose I currently take, and so I am going to at least double that dose at your proposal. If I am not mistaken 5HTP does stimulate the Pineal Gland to release Melatonin; a searched this for someone here on E. C. some time back, but my mind is not 100% so I could be wrong.
Thanx again as I am in much need now. Hope you are well.
Hi Timh… I just thought that I would suggest a few possible remedies that might help your condition generally.
First I just wanted to draw your attention to some new research on Vitamin B3. They have found that larger orthomolecular dosages of B3 can increase the effectiveness of the immune system by a factor of 1000. This fact alone will help your body to more effectively defeat any pathogen — not just hep c — in your body. B3 should always be taken with B50 or B100 complex for its synergistic effects. You mention taking 5HT or tryptophan supplementation in your posts which I heartily agree with. Tryptophan also produces smaller amounts of B3 which, in larger orthomolecular dosage, also helps to cure depression.
To reduce the oxidative stress on your body and to eradicate excess and damaging free radicals it makes sense to radically increase the levels of anti-oxidants like glutathione, glutathione peroxidase, super-oxide dismutase and vitamin c etc in the body. This will benefit your liver and help to reduce inflammation and damage. So taking supplements like selenium, NAC, ALA and milk thistle as well as manganese, zinc and vitamin c will all help. Even just supplementing one or two drops of clove oil in water will benefit you. Clove oil is the strongest anti-oxidant in the world. Vitamin C has an ORAC value of about 80, 000 and oregano oil has an ORAC value of about 539, 000. Clove oil has an ORAC value of 10 million.
Lastly, I would advise that you take Chanca piedra daily. I know this herb well. It has a history of curing Hep B(which can also co-exist, undetected, with Hep C ). There was a recent post by Alicia from Syracuse — she used LDN with Chanca piedra and a careful diet with wonderful results. CP is an anti-viral that eradicates viruses by inhibiting their reverse trascriptase enzyme, thus preventing them from reproducing. CP also acts as a viral binding inhibitor. Research has also established that CP is highly protective for liver hepatocytes — the worker cells of the liver. CP also has beneficial hypolipidemic, hypoglycemic, calcium channel blocker(excess calcium inhibits iodine uptake), anti-oxidant and hypotensive action and is a mild diuretic that uses the urinary pathway. Chanca piedra can be taken as a tea throughout the day or as capsules, 1000 mgs at every meal. A good organic source of CP should be used.
Just some ideas that might help you.
Hi Timh, I do not want to go into a lengthy discussion but go to Walter Last/Kerosene, very interesting read, considered a cure all. THC oil is also an excellent medicine because we have canibinoid receptors in our body, so look it up.
Bill, what is your opinion on B3 Niacin vs Niacinamide? I saw Ted’s old post that he does not recommend Niacin.
Bill, I always enjoy reading your posts! Thanks for the link. I am a niacinamide/nicotinamide fan and user and your links really interested me, but I didn't see anywhere in the article where it talked about what type of dosage they thought it would take in actual human use to replicate their study results on the mice. I have been interested in and used niacinamide for awhile, but have always thought that it could do liver damage at higher dosing in the 4 to 5 gram per day range. I haven't been able to find a lot of good information on niacinamide toxicity in humans. Here is a link that discusses it briefly and it seems like they are suggesting that 3 grams per day may be the point where adverse reactions may start to occur. That would be very limiting if it is correct.
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Louwrence, thanx, I will look it up. There are many cases of cured cancer w/ Cannabis products ether containing THC or not. I know that I could benifit from Cannabis therapy but it is not offered in my state. I am definitely in favor of decriminalization as plants are for everyone.
Hi Susan… Both niacin and niacinamide are equivalent with some differing properties which I will mention. Both niacin and niacinamide are useful for the production of energy in the NADP(Niacinamide adenine dinucleotide phosophate) energy cycle but niacin occurs earlier in this process than niacinamide.
The main difference between niacin and niacinamide is that niacin causes a flushing effect and dilation of the peripheral capillaries in a similar way that eating hot chilli or capsiacin does. This improves the blood transport of nutrients and oxygen to all parts of the body and is beneficial in this respect. But most people don’t like this flushing effect although it will not harm you and is indeed beneficial and evidence that your capillaries have suddenly opened up more. For this reason, niacin has all the attributes of niacinamide plus one other attribute that niacinamide does not have. When you take niacin, not only does it dilate peripheral capillaries but it also changes and thins the blood and gets rid of thick or “clumping blood”. This is how niaicn thins out the blood safely. Niacin is also well known to help reduce cholesterol and benefit heart disease. This is not to detract from using niacinamide form which is also highly useful for digestion problems, CNS, extra energy and many other problems. So for circulatory problems, niacin is the one to use, otherwise their beneficial effects are more or less equivalent.
Bill, thanx so much for your reply as I certainly need help w/ this complex & severe condition. I am taking lots of B-3 Niacinimide 5oomg 1x, B-100 1x, NAD 25mg 1x, 1 gram C (I think I can up this now that iv’e cleared the gallbladder and the acidosis isn’t so bad). Am taking Grapeseed Extract, SOD, NAC, Melatonin, MSM, BHT 250 mg 1x –(I do get positive results).
My liver enzymes are normal and i’ve never been diagnosed w/ hep (but maybe that needs rechecking, do you think?), No sign of jaundice. I purchased some Chanca Pedra extract but it is in alcohol and I totally cannot detox any alcohol so I guess I must boil it off but it seems this will help as my Calcium levels were off the charts 1 yr ago as was my Manganese and all other minerals and metals low. My thyroid goes way down then it comes back up. I supplement Iodine and Tyrosine but I must be careful w/ the T as it raises my B. P. (which is getting better). I started using a standard caps of Clove along w/ Black Walnut Complex for the parasites but it doesn’t last long as I cannot taste or smell it afterward as I sometimes have. Also, I think Clove inhibits detox enzymes and I am already taking Turmeric which does inhibit phase 1; but I do take D-Limonene to boost 1 & 2. I also take St John’sWort occasionally w/ L-Lysine to inhibit viral. Fungal & bacterial issues are obvious and I cannot take enough of anything to regain any stamina or bowel health. I am going to try Colloidal Silver once again, as I dropped it many months ago because of gastritis, but that is better now. I am reluctant to use MMS but it looks like I must at least do an 8 drop (my threshold) dose 1x. Am getting back to the DMG but am uncertain of using it and TMG, would you know anything about this? The DMG seems to really help my immunity. I recently read that Organic Germanium is good antioxidant booster and ozygenator, can you confirm this as I am willing to try.
Thanx again for your help as I have somehow spiraled down about as far as I can go. Fortunately my blood counts have remained in normal range. I had 21 units of blood transfusion in 1997 and somehow recovered from aplastic anemia and do not want to go back there again. Is the Astragalus Root good for the bone marrow?
Ted, I read your reply to Timh and would like to know how much B-3 you would recommend?
I have hepatitis C and Poly-Neuropathy. I got PN 13 months ago and am now having trouble walking. Much stabbing pain and calf and feet cramps, and tingling, even in my arms.. 24/7. I don’t want to go on drugs, but the pain is horrific. Much muscle atrophy. Lost 30 pounds of muscle in a year. Legs shrunk.
Any feedback will be greatly appreciated.
BTW.I have tried magnesium, potassim ACV, and every other remedy for cramping on the site. I believe it may be from the inflamation from my hep-c. My enzymes are 96 and 187. No symptoms at all with hep-c. Energy fine, no jaundice, pain or swelling, appetite OK. Will try Chanca Piedra..
Also I tried clove oil previously and it made my heart race terribly. Would it have a positive effect if I used it transdermally? Maybe going into an untried frontier.
Thank you much. I’m a newcomer to this site… Wish I found it a few years ago…However…
Hi Timh… Just to explain that my own way, with respect to curing serious auto-immune or infectious disease is essentially to fully protect and restore the functions of the intestines, kidneys, liver and thyroid. In short, protecting the intestines ensures proper functioning of the nutritional pathways and excreted waste. The kidneys look after mineral balance in the blood and also the adrenal hormones. The liver, which is the chemical factory of the body, ensures the purity of the blood by excreting dangerous toxins and waste and the thyroid is the governor of the body’s metabolism and also modulates all hormone production in the body and helps to support the immune system. In a nutshell — if you can ensure the good health of your intestines, liver, kidneys and thyroid then you will also have a healthy and pure blood transport system. Then all you have to concentrate on is delivering the proper nutrients via taking nutrients and sticking to a proper unprocessed food diet.
And no matter how I look at your problem, it always seems to come back to the same reason. The supplements you are taking are all excellent and, as you say, your liver and kidney appear to be functioning properly. You are also taking lugols iodine which helps to support your thyroid.
I think the biggest problem you have at the moment are serious malabsorption issues at the intestine/blood level due to a damaged intestine. This is evidenced by the following:
* No matter what minerals, anti-oxidants or nutrients you are taking which should help your problems — they seem to all have little effect.
* Continual Calcium problems even though you are dealing with this by taking magnesium.
* You have gastritis and also suspect candida — which can also be the cause of considerable damage in the intestines and be the reason for digestion problems, food sensitivities or allergies.
Therefore, above all else, you must first concentrate on restoring and healing your intestines in order to restore your nutritional pathways.
Here are some suggestions:
Humic/Fulvic Acid
A prime antiviral, toxin remover, mineral supplier and all round intestinal healer for the body. I use just orgainic Humic Acid(black) that is for the garden because it’s so much cheaper than food grade. Just to be careful I also add a few drops of lugols iodine to the humic acid and water mixture to get rid of any pathogens, which also helps detox any heavy metals and halogens in the HA. I have also read positive research which has observed that humic acid helps both anemia and allergies but they really don’t know why.
Sea Salt
Few seem to realize realize that sodium, in the form of sea salt and in proper amounts, is essential to the absorption pathways at the intestines/blood and at the blood/cell levels where sodium is traded out of the cell, via sodium pumps or symporters, for other essential minerals. If you don’t take enough sea salt, your mineral absorption pathways will therefore be impaired. If you take sea salt then you should also drink more water to help detox the blood in order to maintain proper mineral/water balance. Sea salt also acts like a safe antibiotic in the intestines and delivers many other beneficial micro-minerals safely to the body. Take at least half a tspn of Sea Salt a day with water.
Alkalizing
I think you know all about this. This remedy will act to both help recover your intestines and fight candida.
You should take Ted’s bicarb and water remedy 3 times a day, 1/2 hr to 1 hour after finshing your meals. Take the ACV or lemon/lime remedy with bicarb and water in between meals. This will also help your digestion problems which can further helped by regularly taking protease enzymes with betaine hydrochloride at mealtimes as I have recently fully described in this post stream on EC.
Borax
A hormone balancer, fluoride remover and the ultimate fungal killer. Use Ted’s Borax Water remedy given in Borax Cures on EC. Borax can also kill mycoplasma, a strange fungal like bacteria that can also infect your intestines as well as the rest of your body.
Magnesium Oil
This can be absorbed transdermally through the skin in large amounts safey — thus bypassing the necessity of having to be digested and absorbed through your somewhat damaged and ill-functioning intestines. This will definitely help to resolve your calcium problems and tissue pain. Magnesium Chloride will also have many other beneficial effects on you body because it is involved in over 300 enzyme and coenzyme processes. Magnesium is also a very useful antibacterial.
Niacinamide
To help raise the immune system which you already know about. I would take a dosage of 500 mgs 3 times a day at mealtimes taken with B50(once a day). Niacin and niacinamide also helps to kill candida and maintain appetite.
Glutamine
Taken purely because of its beneficial healing efects on the intestines. 500 mgs twice a day with meals.
Aloe Vera Juice
A wonderful intestinal healer.
Diet
Avoid all dairy, sugar and vegetable oil products. Where possible — eat non-processed food.
Since you don’t really know what all the problems are, I have tried to ensure nutrients that heal the intestines but also nutrients that will kill fungus, bacteria, viruses as well as mycoplasma in your intestines and body. Supplementing lugols iodine, as you are doing will also help the intestines in this respect. The whole point of the above protocol is just to heal your intestines but the protocol will also have other benefiicial effects against problems like candida, gastritis etc I’ve also tried to keep my suggestions as cheap as I can for you.
To Bill: Is there anything else I could use to disinfect the humic acid powder other than lugol’s (expensive)?
Hi Holly… Ted has advised that 3% Hydrogen Peroxide can also be used — 2 or 3 drops — to disinfect the humic acid before taking it.
in reply to Louiville Timh, ____ 09/06/2012: Timh from Louisville, Ky, … “as my Calcium levels were off the charts 1 yr ago as was my Manganese and all other minerals and metals low. “…
Louiville Tim: You say your blood work shows high manganese, This factoid may be the key to the explanation of the cause all your symptoms… I.E.: manganese toxicity.
note: I am just a armchair researcher, I have no direct experience with manganese toxicity. However, you should do a internet search on the terms: ” Mark Purdey manganese ” for a full explanation of how manganese can cause parkinson disease-like symptoms, mad cow disease in humans, [called crutzfeld-jacobs disease in humans, to sort of cover up the connection to mad cow disease] , etc, etc, etc. Here is some stuff I copied off of various websites:
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https://www.examiner.com/exopolitics-in-seattle/chemtrails-are-global-covert-operation-for-total-control-detecting-ufos-part-3
Clifford E. Carnicom, an acknowledged expert since 1999 on the global covert spraying of aerosols into the atmosphere operation (also known as “Chemtrails”), stated in an exclusive ExopoliticsTV interview with Alfred Lambremont Webre released March 1, 2011 that the covert aerosol-spraying operation had transformed the Earth’s atmosphere into a plasma for carrying out weaponized applications such as bio-warfare (including Morgellons disease), electromagnetic operations such as HAARP, weather warfare, tectonic (earthquake) warfare, mind control, advanced surveillance technology, and detection of advanced propulsion technology including UFOs.
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“A new preliminary draft report by Arizona Skywatch [chem-trail watchdog group] shows dramatic increases in heavy metals that simply do not belong in our air. NOTE: The level of Manganese is so shockingly high that Arizona Skywatch also included additional information about it…”
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https://www.examiner.com/article/expert-chemtrails-are-global-covert-operation-for-total-control-detecting-ufos
Manganese
“Catastrophic health effects of manganese (Chemtrails)
“Hallucinations, forgetfulness, nerve damage, Parkinson’s, lung embolism, bronchitis, schizophrenia, dullness, weak muscles, headaches, insomnia, obesity; glucose intolerance; blood clotting; skin problems; lowered cholesterol levels; skeletal disorders; birth defects; changes of hair color; and neurological symptoms.
“Symptoms of Manganese poisoning are hallucinations, forgetfulness and nerve damage. Manganese can also cause Parkinson’s, lung embolism, and bronchitis. When men are exposed to Manganese for a long period of time, they may become impotent. A syndrome that is caused by Manganese has symptoms such as schizophrenia, dullness, weak muscles, headaches, and insomnia. Because Manganese is an essential element for human health, shortages of Manganese can also cause health effects [and include]: obesity; glucose intolerance; blood clotting; skin problems; lowered cholesterol levels; skeletal disorders; birth defects; changes of hair color; and neurological symptoms…”
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https://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=1561126
High dose zinc can also deplete manganese.
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https://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=1590329
I can not stress enough, if you are taking zinc make sure you have 1mg of copper for every 15mg of zinc.
Wow. Happy From Up the Creek: What an astonishing post. Any suggestions? Wheatgrass occurs to me. Perhaps the zinc and copper can balance or cancel out some of the manganese? EDTA or Destrotoxin? There is a contra-indication if have mercury amalgams still, like I do. Modified Citrus Pectin? Lypo Vit C? These have potential.
Any ideas here? Don’t go outside when it’s ‘cloudy’? –T.
Happy: thanks so much for the input. Back in the days when my health was declining and during a weak moment I was working construction when I was exposed to the smoke from a welder, but somehow I didn’t experience any acute symptoms, and yrs latter until now experience chronic symptoms (and which are not all classic Mg symptoms). As the yrs went by I added parasites and fungal infections to “piggy-back” on the metals and have led me nearly dead in the last 2 yrs. It’s all “kill, eliminate, detoxify” all my waking hrs. I usually take 50mg Zinc gluconate w/ 25mg Krebs Zinc w/ 1.5 mg copper daily. Have just begun experimenting w/ Sodium Thiosulphate w/ seeming good results, as I somehow suffer minor cyanide poisoning after consuming foods high in C.
Timh; Part of my post to you got edited by the forum moderator… Most especially the part that contained a list of aersol-type chemtrail metals, found in the Arizona air (test location) in 2010…. MANGANESE was measured at 582 times the EPA allowable limit for manganese!!! Arsenic was 418 times the EPA allowable limit. (note:… I will resubmit that list; see further below)
So; you don’t need to have been necessarily been exposed to manganese thru your jobs. You have been drenched in manganese from the sky above you, courtesy of you’re government. Perhaps some of your symptoms are also arsenic poisoning symptoms…. From the same source. [chem-trail sprayings] Just look up at the sky and see them there.. Every day; day-in, and day-out…. for the past 10 years.
Some doctors are giving pyroluria patients 250 mg zinc per day …… you mite cautiously investigate that possibility, since zinc is found to reduce manganese in the blood, tissues.
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in reply to 10/06/2012: Wayseeker from Modesto:
Wayseeker; yes, I think wheatgrass juice would be very good to use for detoxification. But zinc is a specific for detoxifying of manganese in the human body. This was found out when people who supplemented with extra zinc were found to be low in manganese. So now we know zinc can lower manganese, drive it out of the body…. your other suggestions would also be very good also, for general heavy metals detoxifying strategy.
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“A new preliminary draft report by Arizona Skywatch [chem-trail watchdog group] shows dramatic increases in heavy metals that simply do not belong in our air. NOTE: The level of Manganese is so shockingly high that Arizona Skywatch also included additional information about it (see below). This report will be posted online shortly. (3) Here are the prepublication results. [NOTE: the Manganese and Copper ratio. ] This is only a preliminary overview of Arizona air particulates.
2010 Air Particulates: Antimony, arsenic, iron, manganese
These figures indicate how many times they are over the “allowable” toxic limit:
Aluminum: 15.8 [ = 15. 8 X the accepted limit set by the EPA]
Antimony: 63.3 [This is not a typo]
Arsenic: 418 [This is not a typo]
Barium: 5.3
Cadmium: 6
chromium: 6.4
Copper: 9
Iron: 43.5 [This is not a typo]
Lead: 15.7
Manganese: 513.8 [This is not a typo] = 513.8 X the EPA LIMIT.
Nickel: 10.7
Zinc: 7.5
“These figures show that there is no air “quality” [a word meaning: excellence or worth]; but instead, there is a combination of hazardous metals permeating the air.
Timh; I thot I had read once where you stated that you were extremely sensitive to alcohol…. But I could not find a quote to verify it. As I remember; the quote was about not being able to take herb tinctures made with alcohol……. but maybe I am remembering wrong.
Question: are you extremely sensitive to tiny amounts of alcohol hidden in tinctures, etc ?
If so, then I had a another idea for you to consider. food for thot.
If not so; …. then it was someone else.
Happy: Your memory serves you correctly on my alcohol sensitivity. Back in the beginning of this yr I wanted to use up some Pau de’ Arco in tincture form so I would add a few droppers to a fresh-brewed pot of coffee and hope that letting this steam would rid the alcohol, but evidently I still got small amounts in my body and reached a point of extreme exhaustion (like i’ve never experienced before). Unable to eat supper or get up from the couch was alarming so I knew I had to find the cause as this was not normal even though I have had chronic fatigue for many yrs. I discontinued the tincture and began taking MolyB along w/ Zinc and extra Niacin w/ good results. Fast forward a few months and one serving of BCAA that contains Xylitol as a sweetener and BOOM I go down immediately. An alcoholic beverage like beer or wine, forget about it; not even half a serving and I am extremely nauseated, dizzy, headache, etc.
Well, theres some event particulars as evidence of alcohol intolerance. Your concern and input is very much appreciated and welcome.
Happy, my apology for not responding to your post on (intended) air pollution. Sadly, this group of info is mostly viewed as “conspiracy theory”, when much of it is actually true. I think this is true in part as most people simply live in denial because the truth alone can major disrupt one’s lifestyle or happiness.
In particular, unfortunately I have very little in the way of objective diagnostics, but my last yr’s hair analysis did show what I previously noted PLUS abnormally high arsenic. It’s those high-risk groups or persons like me that have little defenses to these contaminates that suffer most; and are considered hypochondriac because the doctors “can’t find anything wrong”. Like many problems that plague us humans is that the only solutions to the extreme cases is prevention or death. As for the perpetrators, we can only hope that justice will be served them in the next life, as they are powerless to stop their offensive for the cause of huge financial profits.
Timh; thanks for the reply; I thought I had read that, but then could not find the quote anywhere when I did a search of this website.
The reason for my asking was that I had stumbled across some writings several weeks ago that discussed the fact that in some people, who have had their metabolic enzyme detoxification pathways jammed up by {mostly} breathing environmental and household chemical toxins classified as “aldehydes”, like benzene, perfumes, gasoline exhaust vapors, etc etc. Some of these aldehyde compounds are also found in some natural foods. But most are man made chemicals.
alchohol is broken down by the liver, or cells, into aldehydes. Then the liver uses B3 niacinamide as part of a enzyme system [“NAD” system, I think] action to de-toxify the aldehydes by changing them into a less dangerous chemical that can be gotten rid of safely. The toxicity of alchohol is in the toxic aldehyde breakdown product. You get a hang-over from the aldehyde toxins, and not the alchohol per se’.
If you are extremely sensitive to alchohol, or the poly-alchohol xylitol : then that indicates that your aldehyde detox enzyme system is jammed up; is not functioning.
Acetyl-aldehyde is highly toxic to the cells and tissues. It must be broken down quickly to something less toxic, via cellular enzyme systems involving niacin and niacin amides and vitamin B6, etc, etc ; normally to a less toxic compound [can’t remember the details at the moment]
Perhaps you have a blocked enzyme system that is responsible for detoxifying both [1] alchohol [2] aldehyde compounds. Now your job is to figure out how to get this cellular metabolic pathway un-blocked. If it is now blocked; you must now be suffering from aldehyde poisoning, at the cell level.
question: does the smell of certain cheap perfumes, colones make you ill ?…. Many of them contain aldehyde compounds.
I think also that automobile gasoline exhaust gases contain aldehyde type poisons. If I remember correctly, I think benzynes in fuels break down partly into aldehydes, or are in fact aldehyde compounds. Do a internet investigation on “aldehyde toxicity symptoms”, and see how many of those symptoms match yours. A aldehyde toxicity causes a complete immune system breakdown, and will cause all the symptoms that that will cause. Plus other systems will break down. Get the details on the whole, big, picture. There is a lot of info about aldehyde toxicity on the internet.
In the mid 1990’s a guy named William A. Lamb worked in a chemical laboratory, and breathed in a lot of chemical fumes. He got very sick, and was eventually diagnosed with aids = acquired immune deficiency syndrome. At the time, the International medical cartel claimed it was another virus disease, spread by sex contacts. Mr. Lamb done his own thinking, done his own research, and cured himself of the acquired immune deficiency with a protocol of megadoses of niacin, b6, lemons, vit C, ultra violet lite, and several other things. He came to the conclusion that aids was in fact aldehyde and benzyne toxicity. He wrote a book on how he de-toxified his cells of the chemicals. Do a internet search on his name, and read some about his story and his protocol. The book is now out of print. He is now deceased; a heart attack, I heard. There is left on the net copies of archived forums where he posted in, and described his protocol and his theory of why it worked for him.
There is a 2nd guy on the net that followed his protocol and also got well from a severe acquired immune deficiency; he posts on forums as Cal Crilly, and as STAR SLUDGE. You might also do a search on his name.
If your aldehyde detox enzyme system is blocked, then there appear to be methods to un-block it, and get your system back to normal, using natural substances in specific ways.
There is circumstantial evidence that: [1] you have high manganese levels, which has been implicated in mad cow disease in humans, and very serious nerve system disorders type diseases and [2] you [most probably] have a blocked aldehyde detoxification [metabolic enzyme] system; which has been implicated as causing an immune system breakdown, and all that this would entail. If you can detoxify your body from those 2 poisons, you perhaps can get a real cure going.
I thought I would mention these clues to you, in case you could get something useful out of it, and see some new directions to go in, explore. Of course, everything is probably more complicated than what I suggest above; but it is food for thought. I wish you well.
Happy, you are so correct it seems, as if from sincerity alone, concerning my condition. A few months ago I gathered two notepads of info on alcohol as well as aldehyde detoxification including diagrams. So I began taking NAD, Molybdenum, FAD, and Niacinamide w/ little benefit overall. As I have previously reported I think my problems started w/ my mother being over-prescribed a diuretic drug during pregnancy back before it had much history of patient usage. I have always been a slow learner, have difficulty apprehending language (especially from young children) even though my hearing checks out fine. Always experienced motion sickness very easily. Experienced more cold and flu episodes much more often than my family or peers. Got very ill the first time I drank beer to get intoxicated (a 6 pack if I remember correctly). I eventually became able to drink responsibly and recreationally w/ some degree of moderation, but I was never able to keep pace w/ the hardcore drinkers, as I would get very sick before I could get very intoxicated. Have always been quite sensitive to pharmaceutical drugs so I always use low doses. Over time my health deteriorated and I experienced “toxicity” issues that eventually led to Aplastic Anemia, Pancytopenea, Myleophistic Leukemia. Made a miraculous recovery from near death and stabilized for about one decade until a recent rapid decline once again despite natural and nutritional therapies.
It’s evident you are also correct on the complexity view. So it’s a multilayered complex and sever chronic illness that requires all of the study and application I can give it. My current approach is treat all layers at once and aggressively in the effort to overcome one layer at a time (backward from the downhill spiral of the disease process).
I didn’t intentially neglect your expressions on intentional pollution and responded w/ a somewhat lengthy rant on conspiracy, but E.C. did not find it appropriate for the boards so it got deleted.
Thanks for your concern and info as it will undoubtedly play a role in any progress I might make.
Timh; I know what you mean by part or all of a message being deleted. I’ve had that happen a few times also. I guess the earthlinic management have to watch their backs also; from being attacked by the medical cartel, and their fda attack dog.
I would say you are rite-on about the diuretics affecting the health of the un-born child, and interfere with that childs bio-chemistry.
From memory:
William A. Lamb used mega-doses of B3 = niacin = nicotine. (I have not been able to determine if he used the acid form of nicotine, or the amide form of nicotine ) His recommended dose was 10 grams per day.
He also used 10 whole lemons, peelings and all, per day. I assume he blended them in a blender first. He also used b6, Vit A, carotene, Vit C, and several other supplements, along with 30 minutes of exposure to ultra-violet light per day. The ultra-violet lite was to provide a external energy source to use to knock the electrons from some of the molecules of aldehyde, so they could be de-stabilized at their molecular bonding site of the electron shell of the molecules. this allowed the metabolic enzyme pathway to intercede and neutralize them.
He said he took the b3 dose to head-ache tolerance, and added more when he could tolerate more…. up to 10 grams per day.
I copied and pasted his forum messages on a text document to save them. If you are interested, I could paste the info into 1 or more emails and send them to you. (like to a junk, or temporary, type email address ) This would save you some research time.
As for the manganese, it is well established by nutrition studes, that zinc will drive manganese out of the system. I assume a lot of manganese in a system would require high-er doses of zinc than recommended for healthy people. Some people are using up to 250 mg zinc per day to treat pyro-luria. So something in that range mite be needed in treating manganese toxicity.
Arsenic detoxing I haven’t read up on. But I am sure there are some protocols around for it. The arizona chem-trail study detected 418 times the epa allowable limit for arsenic in their analysis. And remember, these metals and odd chemicals in the chem-trail vapors are nano sized, Meaning they have been ground to a fine dust that can enter your skin pores and go directly into your blood, and into the blood brain barrier. Nano technology. These things are not just landing on your food , and that can therfore be washed off. Instead they are drifting in the wind, and landing on your skin & lungs and being absorbed directly into your blood. Diabolical.
quote: ” … I experienced “toxicity” issues that eventually led to Aplastic Anemia, Pancytopenea, Myleophistic Leukemia…. ” Did you know that one of the side effects of benzine toxicity is leukemia ? Do you live downwind of a oil refinery ? [ I think benzine is a aldehyde compound of some sort, plus other non-benzine gasoline components have aldehydes in them, I think ].
Other than that cause; these blood disorders are making me think of nuclear radiation damage. Do you perhaps live near a U.S army base where depleted uranium bombs are stored, or tested ? ….. Or did some doctor or hospital over-expose you to massive x-ray doses? [thats more nuclear radiation source]
3rd radiation source: on 3/11/11 the japanese fukishima nuclear reactotrs melted down, 3 reactors, not just one. The nuclear fallout upon the entire USA is still on-going. It has never let up; those 3 nuclear reactors are still spewing forth nuclear materials into the air and sea water. Un-abated. Massive quantities, far exceeding chernobil amounts. 10 million deaths, or more, from it are expected. perhaps the end of our civilization, as we know it. Massive cover-up by all national governments & news media. [here we go; another conspiracy theory or conspiracy fact ] Did your latest set-back begin about 30 days (or more) after the fukishima nuclear disaster?… About 4-11-11 ? Your blood cells damages sounds like nuclear radiation damage to me. [amature speaking] That should be easy to verify; by checking what the side effects of radiation damage on cancer patients are.
good luck.
Happy: thanks again for your input and concern as there is certainly a lack of those qualities in my immediate vicinity.
I am slowly increasing my Niacin and hope for breakthrough results.
Through out my chronic illness there has been a prominent lack of diagnostics and professional intuition to have experienced resolve. A Minnonite Naturopath Iridologist twice diagnosed (generally) “parasites”. I got good initial results w/ Nature’s Sunshine “Parascleanse” but only months latter contracted a fungal infection.
No, I began my recent decline at the end of 2008. 2010, 11 was like a dark-out or 2 yrs subtracted from my life as I only endured the suffering. I take mineral baths w/ added Baking Soda as well as take Rutin & Sarsaparilla, and many minerals by mouth including Ionic Trace to combat radiation (which I think has played a minor role as I have suffered acidosis for a long time which results in mineral depletion which invites radiation). Nothing substantial for Benzene, but I have had some sensitivity (and maybe some other major problems) w/ the chem. (smells like benzine) from (of a seeming unlikely source) rubber mousepads.
Chronic Active Viral Hepatitis continues to be a problem especially if I am not being successful at the other levels. The BHT worsens my Alcohol detox (we naturally produce about 3-5 grams per day as a results of food (energy) metabolism. I seem to be able to tolerate no more than 250mg 1X day which isn’t quite enough. So I use other protocols for the hep w/ pretty good results. Speaking of which I have begun using Shilajit Extract Fulvic Acid w/ immediate good results and found reported that it is an excellent anti-viral (along w/ many other benefits). Fulvic Acid could easily be a number one single cure all on the planet. Bill highly recommends and we welcome all the info he wishes to disclose on this miracle nutrient.
As for the metals, I need to re-check by hair analysis. My Zinc needs seem to decline as my health betters. I get nausea sometimes at 100mg levels.
As for fungus, I have only recently had good results w/ pharmaceutical grade parasite medication (along w/ herbs and zapping) which has allowed good results w/ fungal treatments especially the use of binders like Brown Seaweed/Sodium Alginate or Chitosan that prevent fungal spores from reentering the bloodstream thru the intestines. Without capturing the spores my aldehyde levels skyrocket to occasional “hangover” mode.
I do get noticeable good results from Sun exposure and I might add to your hypothesis the possibility of a reduction of the fungal molecule Ergometrine in that pathway to Vit-D metabolism. I have recently increased Biotin as it has been shown to arrest the latter stages of fungal development. Am also re-entertaining the use of the plant alkaloid Berberine as I have had good results in the past. Haven’t seen much post for it here on E. C. but Dr. Murry highly recommends for infections. Will avoid long-term use so as to not inhibit the B-Vitamins. Other naturals like Iodine, Boric Acid and Caprylic Acid help. Have purchased some Turpentine and will experiment w/ this remedy thru the winter;(will post findings or results) And then there’s also the likelihood of Mycoplasma infection as both you and Bill intuited. A very much weakened immune system and lung function was noted during one phase of major decline.
The recent Magnet, and Christopher Liver Herbal was a major step up from the bottom (I continue these daily) and I am slowly building some momentum (thanks to all the help I have been getting here on E.C. ). I encourage folks who read this post to experiment w/ strong magnets for liver disease (especially Cirrhosis) as inflammation is what is postulated as the leading cause of the fibrosis process (this hypothesis would fit for any organ that is compromised by the inflammatory condition, elevated cytokines etc.).
I think it’s the combination of factors or causes that result in symptoms that don’t correlate to one specific textbook illness, yes and even beginning w/ development in the womb.
Anyway, as a result of this lifelong misfortune I have had so much subtracted that I have only recently begun to experience the possibility of personality fragmentation or identity disorder; which can be a good thing if, given return of good health, would allow for more than a new chapter, what the musician Shawn Calvin sings as “A Whole New You”. Trying to stay positive and keeping the dream alive.
Hope you are well.
Timh; Glad to hear the shilajit is working for you. I have been meaning to experiment with it myself, but have not go around to it yet.
QUOTES:
” 10/15/2012: Timh … Over time my health deteriorated and I experienced “toxicity” issues that eventually led to Aplastic Anemia, Pancytopenea, Myleophistic Leukemia…”
“10/09/2012: Timh… my last yr’s hair analysis did show what I previously noted PLUS abnormally high arsenic.”
“10/18/2012: Timh … I began my recent decline at the end of 2008. 2010, 11….”
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Timh; I just did some reading up on the arsenic metal toxin. go to: https://pmj.bmj.com/content/79/933/391.full … also go to: https://annals.org/article.aspx?articleid=687064
What I have read in these reports describes your entire symptom set… In 2011 your hair analysis confirmed a high arsenic level in your hair. Did not your doctor follow up on this finding of arsenic poisoning that his tests found? If you are being poisoned with arsenic, then you need not look any further for the cause of your dis-ease. From what I am reading of your symptoms, and the experts recital of what arsenic causes, the damages it does to a man, everything you describe can be explained by [the possible] arsenic poisoning of your tissues!
If I were you, I would do everything I could to ascertain if you are in fact being poisoned by arsenic. It is 100 times more important for a patient to find the cause of his distress, than to treat the symptoms…. Because to remove the cause removes the symptoms. No amount of treating the symptoms will stop the cause. And when the cause is found, and eliminated, the symptoms will fall away, get well, on their own; if the damages done is not irreversible. Of course; you must find a way to remove the toxin, and you still mite have to treat the damages left by the now removed cause.
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https://annals.org/article.aspx?articleid=687064
Leukemia in Arsenic Poisoning, CARL R. KJELDSBERG, M. D. ; and HARRY P. WARD, M. D. , F. A. C. P. , 1 December 1972
Aplastic anemia developed in a 67-year-old man after many months’ use of arsenic-containing pesticides. He was treated with penicillamine and oxymetholone, which promptly restored his blood count to normal limits. Three months later he again had aplastic anemia, and the urine once more contained considerable amounts of arsenic. Treatment with pencillamine and oxymetholone was reinstituted. This resulted in excellent urinary excretion of arsenic, but his blood count did not improve. Five months after pancytopenia first developed, he had acute myelogenous leukemia, which was treated with prednisone, cytosine arabinoside, and thioguanine. This had no beneficial effects, and he died of klebsiella septicemia. Autopsy showed widespread leukemic infiltrates. Acute and chronic arsenic toxicity
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question: what toxins caused your “toxicity issues” about 10 years ago, involving the bone marrow blood cell creation disorders?… have you done any recent tests for those same toxins that made you sick back then? is it possible these same toxins struck again in 2008?
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update; things that can reduce manganese in the body: I have learned from the website: https://www.acu-cell.com/femn.html that you can use these minerals and vitamins to reduce manganese; because they are antagonistic to manganese:
Manganese Antagonists: Potassium, magnesium, calcium, iodine, nickel, boron, Vitamin B1, Vitamin B6, Vitamin B15, Vitamin C, [iron],
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keep the faith.