MSM
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RM,
I have also used MSM for arthritic hands in friends who can tolerate MSM, but I mix the MSM with water and then put it in a little two ounce spray bottle that can be carried around in pocket or purse and apply as needed to the hands. Not everybody can tolerate MSM as has been discussed extensively on Earth Clinic here :
https://www.earthclinic.com/supplements/msm-side-effects.html#bp
Some of my friends feel it also helps their skin. Four grams per ounce of water has been effective, but pay close attention to the many side effects mentioned at the link above.
Art
MSM
★★★★★
MSM
★★★★☆
BETTER BUT WITH SIDE EFFECTS
MSM
★★★★★
I was taking tabs 2gms a day. Now, very gradually, I take 9gms. Hey what a difference, wonderful, but I have rose hip tab as well,
I take 4 MSM with breakfast, 4 for lunch and 2 early pm with a snack.
My arthritis was caused by a very bad fall from a horse straight onto the back of my hips when I crunched into the road 18 years ago. I would hate to be without MSM. But go easy at first, just a low dose, also I take glusamine. I don't have any side effects at all and would consider taking more dosage if needed.
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MSM
★★★★★
Multiple Remedies
(True-Northern-California)
05/02/2020
Well this is interesting, I can actually reply if I use Chrome Browser, but not my Firefox. Oh well, anyway, I'm glad I can finally post. I wanted to update people on what I'm doing for my arthritis. I found what I have for one thing, trigger finger (that's what it's called I guess). The other thing is my elbow, for no apparent reason started hurting so bad, and nothing seemed to work. I use straight DMSO, Then later, I broke down and took 4 ibuprofen, and rubbed my elbow with Freeze Max, some junk I had I bought otc. Still hurt after all that, for several hours. My friend Tanya brought over some ointment made with cloves and marijuana she said. Luckily, I guess you can't get stoned if you put it on topically. I hate pot, and tried it when I was in highschool, and worst paranoia I've ever had. Anyway, even after that, 2 days ago, elbow is still sore and I can't lift with my right hand, nothing too heavy that is. Ok, so yesterday I was determined to go to work on the "fixes" for arthritis, and first thing was the boron (borax, 1/8 tsp in 1 liter filtered water). So today is my second day of that. Weird thing happened last night though I wanted to toss in here. Oh, I also took an epsom salts bath yesterday. I'm suffering with allergies, and arthritis right now so I think my routine really helps both. I use ACV/lemon/ginger drink each morning, and sinus irrigation with salt-water. Now I've added the boron. So I am keeping track of the boron and want to keep people up to date if I can, on my progress. I really believe it can work. Oh yes, the weird thing!! Lastnight, for only the 2nd time in 4.5 years, I went to bed, read my book, and totally forgot about my tinnitus. When I realized it wasn't bothering me I wondered if it was the boron since it's the only new thing. Anyway, my ears were still ringing but much lower. Same today, no noise in my apartment at all right now. I'll be back to let folks know how it's going. Fixing, or stopping arthritis won't be overnight, but I am so hoping to make some progress and not have that awful pain again in my hand, elbow, or anywhere else.
(Co. Dublin)
07/15/2020
Multiple Remedies
★★★★★
Multiple Remedies
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So, I came down with terrible pain in my wrist, fingers, right hip, knee, foot and lower back. It became so unbearable at times that I could not walk or get out of the chair, and I thought that this is no life. If I had to live like this forever I'd rather be dead. However, I prayed and found the answers. Since I don't have insurance anymore - which is a blessing not a curse - I had to self diagnose and realized that I have Osteo Arthritis.
I spent many hours in researching on the internet and found that there are several things I could do to not only stop the pain but also to reverse bone cartilage decay. And this is for all forms of Arthritis. To stop the pain: 3, 4, or 5 thin slices of Organic Ginger, 8-10 oz. of hot good water, 2 teaspoons of each Organic Apple Cider Vinegar and Honey. Place the Ginger in a cup and pour the boiling water over it. Put a lid (Not plastic) or a small plate over it to cover. Let it soak for 10-15 minutes. Then add the ACV and Honey and drink this 3 times a day. It controls the pain to the point where I forget it is there. But for the long run do also exercise and eat undenatured Type II chicken cartilage and Gelatine. (I'll get to this later). Another important thing is to get all your trace minerals back into your body.
Exercise as often as you can. Every 2 minutes count. It does not have to be exhausting and you don't have to buy anything. Get something that has weight (a can of vetable, a plastic bag with sugar, or buy exercise weights). Start low, and do about 20 gentle reps. The pull on the bones strengthens them and you can feel a difference in a short period of time. Start with maybe 3-5 minutes several times a day, and build up. My favorte exercise is this: stand on your toes for a few seconds (maybe 5-10) and go back down. Do 20 repetitions, many times a day, and/or walk on your tippy toes for several steps keeping your neck up like a giraffe. There is no wrong way of doing it. Do this is as often as you can. I even do the toe up and down when standing in line for the cashier. These exercises are very powerful - don't under estimate them. Another good one is to stand with your feet a little bit apart, then bend your knees and go down a little bit but keep your back straight, like you have a broomstick along your spine. Never force anything that does not feel good to you.
Type II Undenatured Chicken Cartilage. This is so powerful that the Harvard University patented it. Undenatured means raw and it is the cartilage from the chicken's sternum. I personally would not eat that from a non-organic chicken because of the risk of contamination. There are many supplements on the market but many of them have been heat and/or chemically treated which destroys the effect. You need to do your own research on that. Tip: Dr. Joel D. Wallach is a Vet who has treated Arthiritis successfully in animals and people. I have red only an exerpt that was published online but I will get one of his books. He has used Chicken Cartilage and Gelatine, but I recommend to get only Organic Gelatine since the regular one is treated with heat and chemicals.
And last but not least: Minerals. If you have been eating non organic (conventionell) fruits and vegetables, or even worse - packeged stuff, you are definitely deficient in essential trace minerals. Your body cannot do without them or you get all kinds of diseases. The cheapest and quickest way to remedy this is to get Organic Blackstrap Molasses. Take about 1-2 teaspoons a day. Indefinitely if you want. In addition to this I have also taken Boron supplement. I take 2-3 capsules a day, each capsule containing 3mg. The late Dr. Rex E. Newnham has cured his own arthiritis with it.
So this is my contribution to this website. Everything I have stated here has helped me to control my arthritis to the point where I sometimes forget it is there. I have just started this regimen about a week ago and it has helped very quickly, almost instantly, especially the ACV/Honey/Ginger Tea. However, I am not a doctor or healthcare professional. Do your own research and before starting anything new consult your doctor first.
Good luck and all the best to all of you.
(Belfast N Ireland)
01/13/2016
(Uk)
04/25/2016
Multiple Remedies
(Rocky Ridge, Oh)
01/28/2009
Oh please, please research your options before having joint replacement surgery! Check out a guy by the name of Pete Egoscue, I believe at www.egoscue.com. He is the author of several books as well. This guy started out as a physical therapist or something along that order. He started researching kinesiology and other movement methods and has come up with a way to overcome arthritic conditions.
You see, many cases of arthritis are alignment problems. Our muscles have memory and can loose that memory to do a specific job in a few days or less of bed rest from a cold, injury, etc. When you are back up and around, often times the wrong muscles start doing the wrong job. Over time, this pulls joints out of place and a rubbing of the cartilage starts. After awhile, the cartilage is worn to nothing and pain sets in. What most people don't know is, cartilage can regrow if the proper muscles are re-taught the proper job and joints are pulled back into place, eliminating the wearing away of the cartilage and a rejuvination of the joint takes place.
This guy helped Jack Nicholson (the famous golfer) when he was set to retire because of severe pain. One day he was to be in a tournament and was about to announce his retirement due to unbearable pain when an associate of his convinced him to try Egoscue out. He got an appointment that day and within a very short time on his first visit he had reduced his pain to the point that he made it to the tournament later that day. He then continued treatment with Egoscue until he made a complete recovery.
The last time I checked, you could find the simple movements meant to correct the alignment problems you suffer from on his website. I would suggest getting his books as a guide and for further research before you decide to go through with this surgery. All you would be out is some time and a few bucks for the books. It would be worth it if it saved you a complicated, painful surgery and rehabilitation if a simple movement plan could remedy the problem. Blessings, Robin
Multiple Remedies
★★★★★
Niacin, Vitamin C, and Avoid Glyphosate
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Of course, most people told me that it was simply age that was causing this pain. I refused to accept that, since my Dad was still snow skiing at age 79. And my Dad was not really health conscious. The only difference between the two of us was that he lived in Switzerland, while I left Switzerland and had been living in the US for about 30 years.
So my intuition told me that it had something to do with the US food supply and/or water supply. By the way, the pain in my neck was really bad to the point I could barely move my head. I went to see a chiropractor, thinking I injured my neck exercising. Luckily, after a couple of sessions the chiropractor told me that it was probably arthritis. (of course, he too wrote it off to getting older).
I had previously read a couple of books and old studies on niacin and niacinamide (the form of niacin or Vitamin B3 that does not cause a flush when taken in large doses). So I knew that doctors in the past have cured all forms of arthritis with niacin. So I started taking 1500 mg Niacinamide with 1000 mg of vitamin C 2x daily. I started feeling better almost immediately but the pain didn't completely stop until about 2 weeks later.
I now take 1500 mg of Niacinamide and and 1000 mg of time released or liposomal vitamin C daily. I'm totally pain free.
Getting back to the difference in the food and water supplies between Switzerland, or Europe in general, and the USA. In Europe, GMO foods are illegal. But even more important, Europeans do not use glyphosate ("round up") as an herbicide.
Why is this important? Per Stephanie Seneff, researcher at MIT, glyphosate is responsible for a wide range of diseases in Americans. Glyphosate, which btw was derived from the Vietnam era "agent orange", is not only an herbicide but also an antibiotic, which means it wrecks havoc in your gut. Furthermore, glyphosate has a very similar molecular structure to the amino acid glycene. So in the production of proteins, glyphosate may inadvertently be substituted for glycene, producing defective proteins, which in turn cause all kinds of havoc to the body.
The bottom line is that glyphosate is responsible for widespread inflammation, including inflammation of the joints. So avoiding glyphosate is very important if you want to reduce or eliminate the cause of many forms of arthritis.
As a side note, not only do American farmers dump millions of tons of glyphosate on so called round-up ready GMO crops, but they use it for a totally unrelated purpose. They use it as a desiccant on wheat and other crops, right before harvest. (A desiccant dries the wheat, making it easier to harvest). So you get a really heavy dose of glyphosate when you eat bread or other wheat products. And this is also the reason, imo, that so many Americans claim to be gluten intolerant. It's not really the gluten but the glyphosate. That also explains why many Americans who visit Europe are able to eat the bread over there without any problems.
So in summary, if you want to get rid of arthritis, avoid glyphosate like the plague (only eat organic whenever possible), and supplement with Niacinamide and vitamin C. If your body is already saturated with glyphosate, bentonite clay and charcoal are great in eliminating toxins, including glyphosate.
Niacinamide
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I doubt the 35mg Grace1 mentioned in her 2017 post (posted below) does anything at all. That is far too little. In order for a vitamin (niacin is vitamin b3) to act as a drug, the dosage has to be far greater than what we normally take. I highly recommend all forms of niacin, especially niacinamide, since that does not cause a flush.
Grace1 (Pdx) on 05/05/2017:
"Some doctors in Montreal found Niacinamide to be a potent fungal and aspergilla's killer. It basically kills Candida infections/pathogenic fungi. This of course is something genuis Ted already knew. Niacinamide is especially effective against candida. The human equivalent dose was 35 mg and it was only administered only once. A second dose of Niacinamide was given 8 hours later. However, even a single dose was effective. While this dose is on the high end for niacinamide, for most people it would still fall under 3g, which is what mainstream medicine officially considers the upper safety limit for niacinamide. Niacinamide can cure Candida infection with a single dose. I think taking caprylic acid a before to first dissolve biofilm and then take Niacinamide and I also took two a dissolved aspirin in a glass of water and took it with the niacinamide this was a strongly effective way to go after it. Of course the obvious stuff which is be on the anti-fungal diet, helps and expect a die off so do gentle detoxification to assist the body in the process of clearing and healing." https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/candida13.html#niacinamide_185779
Oil Pulling
★★★★★
Oregano Oil
★★★★★
Organic Sulfur
★★★★★
(Ten Mile, Tn)
11/09/2016
ARETE,,,,,,,, as you probably know MSM is a result of combining DMSO with H2O2. DR. JACOBS did all the lab studies for Crown Z and he suggested taking MSM orally and topically followed with DMSO to take it to your joints. One of his products contains both MSM and DMSO and is available on line at Jocobs Lab.
I put 1/2 tsp of MSM in my coffee every morning and it does not affect the taste.
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(Rancho Dominguez Ca)
11/15/2016
I am referring to organic sulfur. All MSM is sulfur, but not all MSM is organic.
(Rancho Dominguez Ca)
11/15/2016
Robert Henry- I did further research on MSM and according to a study, Cellular Matrix Study by Patrick McGean, MSM is inferior to organic sulfur. When we found an article about the 16 "deadly" additives found in MSM—the anti-caking additives, we realized why our early participants were not reporting any health improvements. These additives benefit only the packaging industry; our health is apparently a lesser concern to them.
And according to Dr. Mercola, MSM is only 34% sulfur by weight.
I still think the best form of sulfur is Organic Sulfur.
(Ten Mile , Tn)
11/15/2016
ARETE,,,,,,,, you may be right, but I do not understand what you mean by organic MSM. I will tell you a wild story that gives credence to your position. This is a story of what happens when a novice gets involved and does not understand why purity is important.
As a freshman in '54 at Ga Tech, we had to make salt peter in our chemistry lab. We all know what this compound does to a male. We had a 4 man suite and my roommate was a 6' 4" kid from Texas. He carried a switch blade in his jeans watch pocket. He played the "BAD ASS" role.
My girlfriend had mailed me some cookies. I took my impure lab salt peter and put it on these cookies and left them on my desk. The next morning my suite mates asked me what was on those cookies because Tex ate some and became sick as a dog, throwing up, etc. That scared my mule, but not near as much as when Tex came in that afternoon, opened his knife, stuck it to my throat and told me, " Bobby, never do that again ". I was sweating bullets. That stupid stunt sent me to school that stays with me today....62 years later.
So you are right in that you should have the purist product available. Having said this, we take a 100% pure MSM made for horses and buy it from the farmers Co-op. If you want the best MSM possible I suggest Jacob Labs. Dr Jacob has passed, but his children are still running his company.
I wish you well. =======ORH========
(Ten Mile , Tn)
11/15/2016
ARETE,,,,,,,, reflected on your organic sulfur and suggest you research Collard Greens. When cooking these, it will run you out of the house the sulfur smell is so strong.
I get a kick out of the latest rage about soul food. Soul food is what poor Southern folks ate whether they were white or black. That is what I was reared on and love it to this day.
Getting frost, so we will pick a mess of Collards as soon as we think they are producing sugar and are not bitter. You keep posting because you are causing me to think. At my age, I need all the help I can get.
Yo buddy, ======ORH=======
(Onalaska, Wi)
11/19/2016
(Rancho Dominguez, Ca)
11/19/2016
(Ten Mile, Tn)
11/19/2016
BOB, I don't know if you are addressing me or not. I have no clue what organic sulfur is. Sulfur is sulfur. My Tractor Driver and I both take MSM for joint aches. She increases her MSM if her joints ache. Seems to be a common sense thing. Try that and see how it works.
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(Ten Mile, Tn)
11/20/2016
HI U OLE PATOOTS DOIN,,,,,,,,,,,,
Just got sent to school about what's what as far as DMSO is concerned. In my day DMSO was made from Black Liquor from the paper industry. Now all that is by the wayside as of 2010. Now DMSO is made the same way worldwide. But like anything else, some make a more pure product than others as with all companies.
I got into this research because some posters kept using the term Organic MSM. Cannot find any MSM product made from a plant. MSM is the product of the reaction of DMSO and Hydrogen Peroxide. Neither of these products are made from plants. So why is the term Organic used? My self, I think it's another promotion thing.
This article is what sent me to school. Hope it helps all to better understand that MSM is made in plants cannot be recovered for a supplement. That is down by a chemical reaction, which is not Organic.
http://www.msmpure.com/learn-about-msm/natural-vs-synthetic-msm/
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(Miss)
01/10/2017
I don't know what you mean by 'organic sulfur'. I have dmso and msm. I also have a bag of 100% pure sulfur that is used in my chickens dustbaths for pest control, as well as other uses in the garden. I'm really having an issue with my index finger knuckle--feels swollen like it needs to pop but won't and it hurts. Do I take this garden sulfur? How much? I have empty capsules I can put it in (it smells bad! ). The msm lotion and dmso don't seem to do anything for this pain, but it's only been a week of 1x/d application. I open mail at work-lots of mail- and this makes it really hard to do my job. Thanks.
(Ten Mile , Tn)
01/11/2017
MOM,,,,,, just hold on. Don't take that sulfur, least you will end up in your local ER. I took issue with the organic sulfur poster and figured they would mess some folks up. Think they were referring to MSM which we do for arthritis. Suggest you go to a nutritional store and talk to them. They have MSM capsules. Normally folks buy 1000 mg capsules and initially take one to two a day with meals. Increase slowly as gas can be a side effect. You can get a good liniment and follow that with your DMSO. Won't solve your problem, but should give you some pain relief. You are smart to try to get clarification and this should be a lesson to posters that they can cause grief, if not careful.
Wish you well. ======ORH======
(Mom)
01/12/2017
Thanks, ORH. I did stop in and get some msm tablets. Last night, I mixed up some dmso with my mag oil because I have terrible leg/feet cramps at night. I'm sure it will help once I get it built up to the correct level. I take potassium, too. For my arthritis, I've been applying tiger balm which doesn't help much. Think today I'll put the dmso on over it. I have an msm lotion but it's like 15%, so I can add some dmso to that and increase the dose. Will have to think on that one. I get awful reactions when I try anything new, so the msm tablet (should have gotten powder) I dissolved in 1/3 c water and took 1 tbs of that. Also, what I got has sorbitol in it so I"ll hve to pay more attention next time. Thanks for your help. I did do more research yesterday and see that 'organinc sulfur' is apparently not msm and not the garden kind, but a unique product that is not widely advertised and you have to work to find it.
