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Thank you for sharing the info about ACV here.
Vitamin E
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Amethyst
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Weird, but since it's cheap and easy, I thought I'd speak up.
Lugol's Iodine
Here's some more past and current research that you might like to read concerning the whole body's need(not just for the thyroid) for Lugol's Iodine:
The thyroid gland can store up to a maximum 50 mgs of iodine. But it might also surprise you that the rest of the body(ex-thyroid) needs to maintain a store 1500 mgs of iodine every day to stay healthy. So you get the picture. Doctors only ever refer to iodine and the thyroid because that's the way they have been taught by the drugs companies(who write all their Standard of Care Manuals). The above research simply reveals the truth about iodine's essential roles and importance to the human body.
For the last 9 years I've been taking 8 drops %5 LI ever day in water and I attribute much of my own continuing health to this small but essential supplementary habit.
If you want to thoroughly detox then the ones to use are green tea, sodium thiosulfate, EDTA, Lugol's Iodine, chlorella, Vitamin C and Alkalizing as per Ted.
Apple Cider Vinegar
Chest Pain Remedies
★★★★★
Potassium, Magnesium, CoQ10
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Potassium is commonly given by Drs for heart health. Our daily need for potassium is 4400 milligrams and a banana has 300 mg and strong vegetables have more. The common American diet has so little vegetables that, as we age, our potassium continues to deplete. Potassium supplements are regulated at 99mg which is ridiculously low so we can take may of these pills at a time if necessary. Yes, co enzyme Q 10 is incredible at rebuilding the heart in general. I had a bodybuilding client that got cardiomyopathy (a weak and baggy heart) from steroid use, I think. I suggested Co Q 10 and in 3 months, his Dr said the heart was repaired and he could continue the hard workouts. Back to potassium, which we need for heart health and angina. Dr Berg has an electrolyte supplement with 1000 mg of potassium. Don't overlook minerals as age and general depletion sets in. Add in magnesium orotate at 400 mg.
Dietary Changes
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All over the Internet there are lots of fear messages written by Medical Doctors telling you that A) you are in big trouble, B) you are having a heart attack, C) you already have a serious cardio-vascular disease, and D) talk to a doctor.
All right, go ahead and talk to a doctor, if the talk makes you feel better.
However, do watch out. MDs know very little or nothing about foods, food choices, food combinations, digestion and indigestion. They will never tell you that your angina is one of the many symptoms of INDIGESTION.
According to U.S. National Library of Medicine, indigestion after eating can occur for several reasons, including eating too quickly, or eating a high-fat meal.
Example: Yesterday night I had angina after eating a combination of 3 raw egg yolks, 500 grams of raw green peas, and 250 grams of butter.
Why? Because it was a high-fat meal. And because raw green peas are hard to digest. An because butter is hard to digest. And because the combination of yolks, AND green peas, AND butter, is especially hard to digest.
In sharp contrast, tonight I had no angina after eating a combination of 125 grams of cooked sardines and 8 tablespoons of extra virgin olive oil.
Why? Because the combination of cooked sardines and olive oil is relatively easy to digest.
I hope this will help somebody!
Electrolytes
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Last night before I finally fell asleep, I took everything I could think of for gas or heart conditions, this included cayenne pepper and baking soda. When I woke up the pinching pain was still there and so was I, thank God. I was praying that nothing would pop loose. It was now about 12:30 a.m. just a little after midnight. I took Nattokinase 40
00 fibrinolytic units on an empty stomach. Two hours passed but the pinch in the chest refuse to budge. I thought about Potassium, Magnesium and Vitamin C and D, but I had tried them all yesterday. So, I decided to fix an Emergen-C Electrolyte pack. The pain faded away and was gone in five minutes and I went back to sleep. Praise the Lord! And I still feel great.
HisJewel
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Cayenne Pepper
Zinc
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I took the nitrogen pills for years, even after my by pass surgery, which turned to be a waste of time and money. It also put my like in danger. Someone told me to try Tabasco sauce to relieve the pain, and I did. It worked, the pain went away. So now when the pain starts, I put a little sauce under my tongue. This has been going on for over ten years. I am very satisfied with this remedy. Respectfully submitted.
Electrolytes
I took Nattokinase 4,000 fibrinolytic units (which equaled 2 capsules according to my bottle) on an empty stomach.
And as said later the Electrolyte pack.
Magnesium Malate
★★★★★
Magnesim orotate is listed as the best magnesium for the heart and as we age or get illnesses, the magnesium in our body depletes. I would add that potassium is also of great importance as a foundational supplement for the heart. Yes, you can take a teaspoon of cayenne in water to thin the blood quickly but this does not solve a more broad problem of a mineral deficiency. It is best to take a multi mineral as a foundation and then add in what is more deeply needed and in this case, it may be potassium and magnesium. Calcium, magnesium, boron and potassium all work in consort and play great roles in our health and healing. Always stay hydrated because lack of water in the whole body system thickens the blood.
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Apple Cider Vinegar
Olive Oil
Supplements Causing Chest Pain
First I use Magnet Therapy occasionally for maintenance. I use a speaker magnet as it gets down deep into the heart muscle, 1 hr is good maybe once mo. Supplements include: Hawthorn, Ginger/Cayenne, Ginkgo, CoQ10 or Ubiquinol, Carnitine, Coenzyme 1 (NADH), Magnesium.
Consider other detox methods along w/ Oil Pulling as toxicity is very likely. Infections can stress kidneys and Heart if they enter the bloodstream. I had to take 1gm Vit-C before and after O.P. As I had too much toxins released into blood; am down to 500mg now. Try some antibiotic herbs like Neem, Echinacea/Goldenseal, Olive Leaf Extract, Grapefruitseed Extract. Zinc is critical for immunity (take with Vit-A, also works w/ Vit-E)
Use the best form of Vit-E you can afford like Full Spectrum Mixed Tocopherols and be sure to take at least 200 mcs of Selenium plus the CoQ10; these three together are a powerhouse lipid antioxidant and heart protector.
Hope this helps and good luck.
Supplements
Answer: My husband stayed on the original list of supplements until he felt fine running 2 miles which wound up being for about 4 months.
His daily maintenance program is:
L-Lysine and L-Proline, same dose as previous, but AM only
Oral Chelation the same as previous AM and PM
Cal-Mag the same as previous AM and PM
1000 "Buffered" vitamin C AM and PM
he no longer takes the vitamin e
Cayenne Pepper
Also, lower the amount you are taking. If you are taking only one capsule, fill it up to half of what you did before. Remember: take it only with or right after meals.
Cayenne Pepper
Apple Cider Vinegar, Lugol's Iodine
2 T. of vinegar every two hours....and the 1/3 of a 4 ounce bottle of hawthorn are way more than a normal dose for a person (even a person in crisis) and the elderly generally need smaller amounts of a remedy.
Apple Cider Vinegar
L-Arginine
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Chest Pain Remedies
Concerning the pain on left side/ chest to left armpit. Of course this may very well be the heart. Don't take chances. Go to ER now.
Seriously, don't take a chance. You need EKG ... could be critical any time.
I don't mean to alarm you but really consider getting assurances this is not a heart issue.
I had an employee in my office suddenly develop tacky skin and became a bit disoriented. In thirty minutes we got him to ER and determined he was having a heart attack...So....the point is, take no chances.
Zinc
Zinc
http://www.chiro.org/nutrition/FULL/Natural_vs_Synthetic_Vitamin_E.shtml
I've read studies where it appeared synthetic vitamin e actually had a negative impact on the human body. Unfortunately many studies do not tell which form of vitamin e is used and this probably helps explain the discrepancies and contradictions associated with vitamin e studies. One study using a specific dose will have a positive effect and then a similar study also using the same dose will have no effect or a negative effect.
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Zinc
After eliminating digestive issues I agreed that his chest pain sounded like angina. So my suggestion was to immediately get on the fllowing suppliments:
400 iu daily of natural vitamin E. Drug stores only carry synthetic E, so go to a health food store and make sure by discussion with the clerk that you are getting good quality natural D-alpha tocopherol. It cannot say "DL-alpha"... the L means it is synthethic.
- 500 mg of magnesium daily
- 500 mg of potassium daily
- 500 mg of the herb Hawthorne daily
- 500 mg of Co Q 10 daily
- 1, 000 mg of Vitamin C, in a non acid form daily
- 1, 000 mg of a good fish oil (taken with meals) daily
I warned him that any hard workout where he was breathing hard could easily kill him... That he was severly depressed in oxygen to the heart and possibly blocked in his arteries in the heart. I emphatically warned him that he was a time bomb. And not to do activities that made him out of breath... Cardio exercise for at least four months. Only after four months could he gradually do activities that caused him to be out of breath. Every month I'd check to make sure he had not run out of nutrients. After 4 months I suggested he up his E to 600 daily.
He did. His wife reported to me after he had been on the program for five months that the transformation was amazing. A year before he had begun coming home and plopping down on his recliner and sleeping after supper whereas throughout their marriage his energy was usually boundless. But now, she reported he had energy as before.
It has now been ten months. No more chest pain. Energy back to normal. He is doing great.
The combo is really important. Some of the items work synergestically so all are better than one or two.
I have personally been on this formula for nearly thirty years. I have 108/78 BP. I take no prescription drugs. I use colloidal silver to ward off infections. Also I do consume other helpful nutrients for the heart such as arginine in large quantities which is an addition in the past five years. And the remarkable Calcium AEP. Go on line and google Calcium AEP and find a report from "Nutritional Review. " AEP (not just any calcium) accomplishes about 20 different actions, many on the cellular level.
I am 63 years old. Have never been in a hospital as a patient. I'm not a good natural foods eater. I do eat sugar deserts. I don't exercise enough and am overweight but one thing I do right, even with my eating "sins" is take a lot of nutritional suppliments.
My new year's resolution: More exercise; less sugar; more jucing. By the way on exercise, I am into the idea of less is more. When I work out it is on an eliptical and I make sure I am breathing to the point that I could not have a conversation with the person next to me. That level for 10 minutes, then the backwards movement for one minute getting other leg muscles, then back to normal for two minutes; then I end with a sprint for 30 seconds. Then three minutes on the stair master. I want to see my heart rate hit the 170 level. Then on my way home I check my Blood Pressure at a local pharmacy (the only time they ever see me) and make sure... Even after a brisk cardio hit, I'm normal. My theory about that workout is that it pressures the leg muscles as well as pressing the heart to remind it that it is working for a young guy, not an old man. And the exercise pushes the lungs to make sure no atrophy is taking place. If I do live to be 85, I want to have mobility and capacity to participate in activities such as hiking etc. I can positively feel the difference with a mere once a week workout. I would like to add one or at most two more days a week but in the past... Years ago I could not really feel the qualitative difference with a four workout week versus a once a week but intensive cardio workout. I'd love some empirical info on longevity and heavy workout routine but my google searches have not really provided me with strong evidence that that amount of exercise in double blind studies confirms the theory that intense (five times weekly) workouts actually help with longevity. I have seen studies with rats relative to weight issues. That the leaner animals lived longer than fat ones. That is not the exercise question. Some one direct me to a definative study please. If I'm going to torture myself by intense exercise five days a week I'd love to really know that it is helping achieve more than the weight issue. I have seen theories that robust exercise on a heavy weekly schedule can wear out the "parts. " So am I right that less is more?
Zinc
Tabasco Sauce
Supplements Causing Chest Pain
Take care, Lisa
Supplements
Potassium
How much potassium did you take per day? Did you monitor your BP as well?
Apple Cider Vinegar, Lugol's Iodine
No heart pains since last posting, and all he has been getting for weeks now for heart is the potassium chloride. We have been through a lot of new travails, to cope with which I cut the ACV, all dietary measures listed above, etc. (One of these days I will do a lengthy post in the "appendicitis" listings...)
Apple Cider Vinegar, Lugol's Iodine
Apple Cider Vinegar, Lugol's Iodine
EC: Important! Those with the following medical conditions should NOT take Potassium Chloride:
"Absence of Urine Formation, Myotonia Congenita, Hyporeninemic Hypoaldosteronism, Complete Heart Block, Severe Heart Block, Compression of the Esophagus, Stomach or Intestinal Ulcer, Stomach Muscle Paralysis and Decreased Function, Stomach or Intestine Blockage, Severe Renal Impairment, Severe Burn, Inflammation of the Epiglottis, Problems with Food Passing Through the Esophagus, Addison's Disease, Excess Body Acid, Acute Dehydration, High Amount of Potassium in the Blood, Familial Hyperkalemic Periodic Paralysis, High Amount of Chloride in the Blood"
Source: WebMd
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Instead of reading the article by Joe Vialls, warnings are listed of conditions that I can't even pronouce, so that no one can possibly know when this is dangerous. How can it be dangerous to take what the body needs?
Joe Vialls said that we need 3000 - 4000 mgs of potassium chloride each day and we don't get even close to that. What he did was to calculate how many mgs he was deficient from way back and determined that he had to take some 100,000 mgs plus to overcome that deficiency. I forget at what point in his replenishment his angina pain began to subside, but it cured it nevertheless.
Here is what he said: Proper scientists agree the daily potassium requirements of an average adult lie between 3,200 and 4,100 milligrams, but the average potassium intake of Americans through the food chain is only 1,500 to 2,100 milligrams per day, representing an overall average shortfall of 1,850 milligrams.
Question to Earth Clinic: How can it be that we shouldn't take this vital nutrient that our body needs 3000 mgs to 4000 mgs per day and we only get 1,500 to 2,100? You say the source Is Webmd Is Webmd fake news in some instances perhaps? That list says that unless you go to visit a doctor to eliminate all of those conditions, one should not dare take potassium chloride. Isn't that what it is saying?
Apple Cider Vinegar, Lugol's Iodine
You said, "warnings are listed of conditions that I can't even pronounce, so that no one can possibly know when this is dangerous. How can it be dangerous to take what the body needs?"
If you do not know or understand anything about these conditions, how can YOU question the unsuitability of potassium chloride for them?
Potassium is an electrolyte. Getting the wrong balance of any electrolyte can be dangerous and even life threatening. And it is true that those with kidney disease need to be careful about potassium intake (as well as sodium and protein.)
You also say, "How can it be dangerous to take what the body needs?"
Regulars on Earth Clinic know that everyone is different! Some here take blackstrap molasses religiously and others can't take it at all.
The dose makes the poison. Even on normal minerals and nutrients, everyone is not the same. Medical conditions, nutrition and medications can affects the body's needs. Why take offense that Earth Clinic would give a warning? People need to do their research and figure out if a remedy is appropriate for them. You can read all kinds of reader submitted side effects for practically every remedy on this site.
Black Tea
Lugol's Iodine
Apple Cider Vinegar
Apple Cider Vinegar
Salvia
While treatment of angina and hepatitis remain the most common clinical applications of salvia in modern Chinese clinical practice, the herb has been shown to have other valuable applications, based on its effects on microcirculation.
Chest Pain Remedies
Cayenne Pepper
Supplements Causing Chest Pain
I've noticed whenever I take any sort of vitamins with oils, like a very lowdose Vit. E or Flaxseed oil or Cod liver oil, (liquid) or even oil pulling, I get severe chest pains around the region of my heart, ( I've written to u before about the OP and chest pains) I just never put it together, that most or all oils cause this. Is there a way to strengthen my heart muscles, without taking these oils? Or would u happen to know why this is happening, what is causing this? When I look back I realize that I've been taking vit. E since I was a teenage off and on, now I'm in my late 30's and I still can't take these much needed beneficial oils. I do have a mitral valve prolapse, which was diagnosed about 10 yrs ago..... Thank u.. : )
So where exactly do u get a "speaker magnet" (yeah, I'm a girl) and should I ask where u put this magnet.
Also thank u for the wealth of info... I'm trying the hawthorn, vit c, Magnesium and potassium. Lets see how that works for now... Take care. : )
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Zinc
He has articles on the right side of page in the box... all very informative.
Zinc
Supplements Causing Chest Pain
I just watched the You Tube videos of David Wolfe. Wow. I agree - most informative. It's kind of an interesting dilemma. There is so much information out there and I sometimes find it difficult to decide which path to take (and still have a somewhat "normal" life) without totally changing my lifestyle, social life, family dining, etc. The whole subject intrigues me and I have been studying for years - yet I must admit that I still enjoy a great meal in a great restaurant (not entirely raw.) I've decided that incorporating as much raw food as possible is still the best way to go - even if it is not perfection. Have you found any good sources of superfoods? Thanks so much for all of your helpful comments. Lee
Supplements Causing Chest Pain
I'm so glad you took the time to watch David Wolfe- he is a very informed person with cutting edge info and close to many of the pioneers of changing the way we see food and how it can change our body/life. I try not to create any rules/laws/isms for myself as I've done that in the past in my life. This time I told myself I would totally tune into my body and listen. I know how it can be difficult as so many people live differently and we want to be social. I have to say the holidays were truly a challenge. Sometimes, we had 3 different meals on the table! I "chose" to eat a small piece of turkey on Thanksgiving but honestly I found I didn't really want that. At Christmas, I ate all the veggies and had a very small piece of prime rib and again did not find it that appealing.
Since the holidays, we have mostly eaten raw and since we're here in LA there are plenty of fantastic raw restaurants to enjoy. We have tried some of our favorite old standby restaurants that we used to frequent but, since changing our eating habits/ lifestyles neither my husband or I felt they were very good anymore and let them go. We find the raw foods more vibrant, you feel very alive and energized rather than that heavy feeling after eating a "gourmet meal". And let me tell you, we were quite gourmet in our cooking having spent a lot of time studying all the top chefs and their recipes! So, it was a radical change for us but one we now welcome because the benefits of how we feel are so different and much improved for both of us. And yes, my conclusion is eat as much raw as possible and maybe you can't do it for a bit- don't beat yourself up about it! Just start again. We juice every morning and that really charges us up. BTW, you are in one of my all time favorite cities. I lived there in the 70's and love visiting there! Are you aware that there are some amazing raw food restaurants there and have you tried any? Pure Food and Wine is highly praised! If you try it, let me know what you think!
As for superfoods, check out the company Ultimate. They are very reasonably priced with very high quality products. Check them out. You may be able to find them in your Whole Foods there in NYC. We have them in ours but a limited choice. Also, rawfoodworld.com has a lot of very good products on their site and the owner, Matt Monarch is a very informed and critical guy. Hope this info helps.
Peace, Lisa
Supplements Causing Chest Pain
It does sound like we are on the same track. I have been to a few raw food restaurants in the city and have a gift certificate to Pure Food, which my son and daughter in law gave me for Christmas. I'm waiting to use it until the weather gets nicer because I'd like to sit in their outdoor garden. I'll let you know how it is but - my daughter in law is also very interested in raw foods and she has prepared many dishes from their cookbook - and she raves.
Thanks for the info on the superfoods - I'll start investigating. It's fun to read the postings of so many kindred spirits.
Oh - I have another question for you. Do you grow wheatgrass? I know you are interested in Brian Clement - if so, do you purchase supplies from his website? Thanks - Lee
Supplements Causing Chest Pain
That's fun that you have a gift certificate to Pure Food. They have pics of the patio in their raw books and on their site and it looks great! One day I'll get to go there. I have used their books too and love them. When I first got one of their books I was so excited and enthusiastic about what I was discovering that I wrote Sarma Mengailis, the owner and was thrilled to see that she wrote me back a really great email. She's very funny.
As for wheatgrass, no I don't grow it because my juicer won't do wheatgrass. I do a lot of sprouting though because of Brian Clement's advice. Right now I'm sprouting quinoa and it's delicious! It's my new favorite. Also, I haven't purchased anything from his site. Since you live in NYC you'll understand this- we can find anything here in LA and reasonably-priced as well. So for instance, I recommended Ultimate brand because it is high quality and reasonable but I can find it in our local health food stores for the same price pretty much. Often, I'm the kind of person who wants it, and wants it now. Donna Gates has amazing products products on her site but I can find them in our health food stores which I'm sure could be hard to find in lots of parts of the country. If you haven't listened to her or gone on her site, that's a must if all of this interests you. She highly recommends quinoa.
I know what you mean about finding kindred spirits. We now have a monthly raw food fest here in LA and the place is packed with them! I have found a couple of them here on EC and we now email each other on a regular basis sharing ideas and encouragement. It's been fantastic.
One thing I want to add in regards to wheatgrass and Brian's site. One of my "email pals" went to his site so excited after I sent her links to all his video. She immediately ordered the hand-cranked wheatgrass juicer and is growing her own wheatgrass successfully. Anyway, she had me howling because of her description of her husband and herself juicing with this thing. She said it takes her 20 minutes to get the smallest amount of juice and she's in a full sweat and completely worked out by the time shes's done. At first I was envious about her getting a wheatgrass juicer since I go buy a shot every couple days but her response to me was, "Somehow I think paying for your wheatgrass juice is worth it after this!"
I wish you the best on this journey! Lisa
Supplements Causing Chest Pain
Supplements Causing Chest Pain
Well then, I'm glad I added that in because it was a second thought after I read my "preview" before submitting. Thank goodness, we spared you the expense and toil! Take care, Lisa
Supplements Causing Chest Pain
Supplements Causing Chest Pain
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Thanks for any wisdom here.
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Cayenne Pepper
Cayenne Pepper
Cayenne Pepper
If it is as you say, there is no more pain. Than as a small test go for either a long walk, or a short jog to see how it goes. No pain, than you're probably right.
That is how I tell if I'm improving. For me at this point, just starting the Cayenne Pepper, it would be a short walk of about 200 yards... lol that's all I'd need to know I'm getting better.
Cayenne Pepper
Cayenne Pepper
