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On visiting South Africa, I freely bought it and the distilled water to take the dosage as laid down in Bill's book. I managed to get as far as 22 drops in 12 fl.ozs (UK) of distilled water. That was on day 14 of the schedule. I had to quit as I kept throwing up, later I found out why, it is very hard to know when your stomach is completely empty, because at this high dose, the stomach must be completely empty. However not to be put off completely, I reduced the 35% down to 3% with distilled water 11 to 1 total 12, 11 being distilled water and 1 the 3%.
I am using an altrasonic nebulizer ( Beurer IH 40 ). The best thing I ever bought, it is almost silent, so it can be used at night without disturbing your partner. My oxygen transfer reading had dropped from 98 to 95 in less than 6 months, before I started the inhaling treatment. I am pleased to say that my readings have improved back to 98/99. I started the treatment with 10 minutes 3 times a day, for 10 days, then I increased the time to 15 minutes 3 times day, for 10 days, I am now on 15 minutes 4 times a day.
I have informed my doctor and COPD nurse of my actions, they were both astonished when I presented the benefits of FG H2O2.They had no answer to my actions. I told them I had stopped taking my inhalers, I don't need them. I will continue until August 2016, then I will have a comparison check up of January 2016. I have read most of the comments here on this site. I sleep up to 10 hours without any problem, and get up at 6 am twice a week to go fishing, I can still lug my fishing gear around, although I do get out of breathe, however my recovery time is getting better by the week.
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BETTER BUT WITH SIDE EFFECTS
However, this one little matter: I began to have a black tongue and have had it now for some years. I wrote in here at the time I was helped with the COPD that I did seem have a black tongue and no answer for it, but I said "if that's all I have to pay for the cure, fine by me." But all these years later, I got the answer. It's the peroxide. It affects some people that way. So I'm back to what I said years ago - "If my only problem is black tongue, but cured otherwise....fine by me."
Peroxide, Colloidal Silver and Lugol's Iodine Inhalation
You are probably aware by now but it seems that H2O2 can have an oxidative effect on metals, here colloidal silver being the case, so it's recommended to take them apart, some say as much as 24hours.
Take care,
Jax
Hydrogen Peroxide Inhalation Method
Hydrogen Peroxide Inhalation Method
Hope this sheds some light on your dilemma.
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In regards to taking Hydrogen Peroxide, I made the bad mistake of using it from the 3% at my local drug store which contains bad solvents and used that for my Asthma in my nebulizer machine a few years ago...After a couple of weeks, I could hardly walk and have been on my machine and taking Steroids daily ever since...I have been on antibiotics several times in the last year and as soon as they wear off, I'm feeling bad again...I now think I have COPD...So don't use DRUG store stuff...Make sure it's food grade...I'm a 61 year old male in Canada, thanks.
Hydrogen Peroxide Inhalation Method
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They tried for 3 days to get me to breath on my own. Needless to say it really put a scare in my family. I am 56 yr and smoked for over 30 yrs. I had such high hopes for the h2o2 use because I think I read ALL the testimonials. Of coarse when I first mentioned this to my pulmonary doctor he said "why would you want to put bleach in your body". I believed the folks on EC anyway. The only thing I can think of is that I did loosen up tar or whatever else smoking put on my lungs. I will still take advice as to what to do. I am happy for the ones it has helped.
Vitamin B-12
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However by chance - long story - I took some vitamin b12 and within 48 hours or so my symptoms had disappeared.
The tightness in my chest and the excruciating agony of breathing has gone.
Breathlessness is a symptom of vitamin b12 deficiency, pernicious anemia is a serious deficiency. Obviously I have some way to go with my breath as not being able to breathe for six years does take its toll - I get out if breath still but not breathless. So complete recovery could take a while I should think I am still only recently recovered I am no expert but I don't know if it will help all copd cases as they are many different causes - its worth a try.
As for the dosage well I used cherry flavored methyl b12 and just took four or five a day.
Vit b12 is a water based vitamin and the French firemen are given it before going to a fire to protect their lungs.
Good luck to you all
Thanks for looking.
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Cell Foods
Colloidal Silver
From what I have read it is not advisable to heat colloidal/ ionic silver to the point of boiling.
A nebulizer is an appropriate alternative.
Asparagus and Cayenne Treatment
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I take 4 tablespoons in morning and evening.
I also doing the Hydrogen peroxide nebulizer down my throat during the day, and blow balloons before bedtime.
I will keep you posted on results. I have to see the Lung Doc on Dec 15. This should be interesting
Hydrogen Peroxide Inhalation Method
Peroxide, Colloidal Silver and Lugol's Iodine Inhalation
Peroxide, Colloidal Silver and Lugol's Iodine Inhalation
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I also do the same thing with colloidal silver and lugol's iodine 2% solution. The colloidal silver is put straight into the nasal spray bottle but I put 2 drops of silver into water that I put first in the nasal spray bottle. I now have 3 nasal spray bottles,
1. with 3% peroxide
2. with colloidal silver and
3. with lugol's iodine 2 drops in water.
I use these throughout the day whenever I feel mucous and congestion building up and 1 hour before bed to clear up any mucous before bed. I also use p73 extra strength oregano oil. I put 6 drops in a empty gel capsule or just put 6 drops under the tongue. This acts as a natural antibiotic that clears up any infection or viruses. I use this two weeks on two weeks off or however you feel.
I no longer have any problem getting mucus up can walk over a mile without any breathing problems. I know that the copd is still there but it just dosen't bother me. The last time I went to the doctor he had me cough and listened to my breathing but didn't comment on the copd. The year before he insisted I take the inhalers.
Just had to share with you. It has been at least 3 years I have been doing this and I have not gotten any worse. The best to you all, Yolanda
P.S.. I forgot to tell you I do use them all at the same time. Took a while to do that doesn't seem to hurt. Sometimes I take one then later take another. Just try it.
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He is on about 12 drops twice a day diluted according to the protocol and also nebulizes 3ml 3% twice a day and has a humidfier with an even more dilute solution running all night. He is on an oxygenator at night but can manage if there is a power cut.
I think it is the peroxide that has kept him alive and well enough to still enjoy life and feel useful.
Yerba Sante
I know it was a long time ago, but do you remember any more details about how Yerba Santa saved that man's life? What ailment did he have and how did he use Yerba Santa?
Hydrogen Peroxide Inhalation Method
Hydrogen Peroxide Inhalation Method
Bill Munro used his hydrogen peroxide inhalation method for years with success. When we have used hydrogen peroxide in the nebulizer, we have used it "as needed, " but we were only using it for an acute cough.
I am wondering how many times a day are you using it currently?
~Mama to Many~
Hydrogen Peroxide Inhalation Method
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Leonard Harrowitz used to sell an Oxygen/Silver product advertised as the most potent natural antibiotic called "OxySilver". He and his wife have since divorced and I assume she got the retail business, but I think the product is still available.
Colloidal Silver
Can you indicate what brand and strength of colloidal silver you would use? Thanks
Colloidal Silver
Can you indicate how your husband has been doing since using the colloidal silver mixed with hydrogen peroxide? What is the brand that you bought? Thanks
Colloidal Silver
Hydrogen Peroxide Inhalation Method
Hydrogen Peroxide Inhalation Method
With a Southern double name, you got to be of my generation. That just does not happen any more. Folks now all expect their younguns to be in the movies so they give them a Hollywood name to start with. Glad you have recovered and go slow as you indicated. Don't stop, just slow down.
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WARNING!
I am not telling anyone not to do the inhulation, I am saying do not try to over do it for faster results!! I may even try it again, but follow the instructions that were so clearly given.
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Also, my doctor told me to take 3 capsules of cayenne pepper plus apple cider vinegar. I have seen improvements.
Colloidal Silver
Colloidal Silver
If I had been diagnosed with COPD...
Taking Colloidal Silver orally probably wouldn't help too much the COPD but using the CS in an inhaler/steamer might help. So I'd get an inhaler at a Drug store and use the CS every night for a month. I'd just go that long to see if there was any improvement. IF the COPD is caused by a virus or fungus or bacteria, in theory the CS might help since the silver would be killing the infection. But if the COPD is not caused by infection then then I'd expect to see no improvement over the month of using the CS.
I use CS every day...twice daily in fact because I believe the CS kill virus infection system wide and as I age my immune system is not working as well as when I was young. So I'm not advising you NOT to take CS orally, but rather telling you that oral consumption won't likely show up in a short time as dealing with COPD. The more I can get the CS directly onto the target area the better it works.
Colloidal Silver
Do you know if colloidal silver has any affect on c.o.p.d.? I also am on warafan for my blood clots I take 400 mg. daily of magnesium , tuna fish and sardines. Does this help at all? I also walk every day until I get tired. Any advice would be well appreciated.
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One compound pharmacy had to ask the boss if they could sell it as... they use h2o2 to make a lot of medicine! I got some from them-expensive-then contacted a BIG wholesale chemical company that gave me a pint or 2 for free as they sell it in 55 gallon drums-not too drastic for so much!
It does oxygenate and many diseases cannot live in an oxygen rich environment.
It may have some side effects that are not that nice- so watch out and I'd say (altho I am NOT a physician at all), use in moderation and probably not needed long term-continually. Experiment a little- see how you feel, I wager it will help in the right dose and over X amount of time depending on your condition
Good Luck!
On another note - if you do have any further knowledge of h2o2 effects on hemochromatosis PLEASE email me asap
Dave: gnomad56 (at) gmail [dot] com
Blowing Balloons
Hydrogen Peroxide Inhalation Method
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The best to all of you, love the site. Yolanda
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If my breathing has been really bad for a while, H2O2 helped sometimes. But it seems that whatever "cleaning" effect it has, it had no more beneficial effects after the lungs were cleaned with it. Perhaps people who are frequently breathing dirty environments, pollution, smoke, or regularly getting lung infections can benefit from regular use of H2O2.
Otherwise a few days in a row for cleaning out the lungs every few weeks or months might be good enough for some in good, clean, safe, healthy environments.
People with air filters, AC, & relatively clean air around them may not see any improvement from regular H2O2 treatments.
You may not need to mix H2O2 with distilled water. Pour a teaspoon of H2O2 in a small glass of your tap water. If it doesn't bubble or foam like crazy, or only bubbles a little bit, there's not much bad in it to react to, so you can mix it with ordinary tap water.
I've read coffee and caffeine may be bad for COPD. It turns out it is only bad for some of the meds you may be taking.
My COPD was so bad that I couldn't walk across the room or go to the bathroom without desperately gasping for air. Getting laid off because of breathing problems, losing my health insurance, & being on a tight budget, I gave up coffee because I could no longer afford it, and they said it was bad for me.
After some research I had discovered that caffeine is very similar chemically to some meds used to treat COPD. I traced my steps back to the last time I could walk across a room without gasping for air. It was before I ran out of coffee and gave it up!
I desperately went to my cabinet and got out some caffeine tablets I had from the days of my night-shift work, and took a tablet. These were the bigger strong ones. I used to only use a half a tablet for night-work because they were so strong. But for this experiment I took a whole one.
A whole one was too much. Got the shakes, and an uneasy stomach. Breathing only improved slightly during the first hour. During the second hour, breathing was remarkably better. After the second hour I was breathing better than I had in months!
The speedy/hyper effects of the caffeine had diminished considerably after a couple hours, but the breathing was still improving. I continued to breathe much better for 5 hours after taking the caffeine, before I noticed my breathing was starting to get slightly worse again.
I continued experimenting with different doses at different times to see what worked best. Rather than buy more coffee, I continued on using the caffeine "stay awake" tablets to formulate an accurate dosage/treatment scheme.
This is what works for me these days. I take a normal cup of coffee in the morning with a small caffeine tablet. The tablets are about half the size of the original ones, so are much weaker. It turns out more is NOT better. So if you have one of those special or exotic coffee makers that deliver a very strong caffeinated beverage, you might want to skip the tablets entirely.
Caffeine is a drug and a stimulant. If you have too much it will de-sensitze you to it, causing you to need more with less of the beneficial effect. Also too much will make you hyper or nervous so you'll burn more oxygen and get an upset stomach. So be sensible. Use only what you need, using too much will only make things worse.
I usually don't need any more caffeine for at least 5 hours. At that time, around lunch time or hours after, another ordinary cup of coffee is enough. But if my breathing has gotten considerably worse, I may take only 1/2 of one of those small caffeine tablets with the coffee. Again, I must stress, if you are having a strong coffee or strong caffeinated beverage you may skip the tablet.
AVOID Red Bull or other caffeinated beverages and energy drinks that may have other stuff in them you don't want or may be bad for you and your other treatments!
Just before, during, or after dinner time (depending on my breathing) I may have another cup of coffee. Many days I can skip it because I'm still breathing good enough. Other days if it has gotten real bad, I'll take another half a caffeine tablet with the coffee.
Again, I must stress, more or too much is NOT better. Take only the amount of caffeine you need to breath a little better. Taking too much will de-sensitize you to it, and the treatment won't work or work well anymore. Don't be impatient. You may notice only a slight improvement after 20-60 minutes of taking caffeine. The significant improvement will happen after the first hour, and continue for many hours.
2-4 hours before bedtime I might have another cup of coffee if my breathing is getting bad again. That way the speedy effects are almost worn off by bedtime so I can sleep well. However if my breathing is so bad that I can't get ready for bed or sleep safely, I'll also take a half a caffeine tablet with the coffee, and decide to stay up a few hours later until my breathing is better.
I find usually if I had a caffeine tablet or a half of one with my coffee, the next time or the next 2 times I do not need a caffeine tablet with my coffee, or can go longer without coffee. The tablets I'm using now only have about as much caffeine as a cup of coffee. So a cup with a tablet is like having 2 coffees. A cup with a half a tablet is like having a large coffee.
So I'm only having the equivalent of 4-6 regular ordinary cups of coffee a day in caffeine, and unlike the coffee guzzlers at work or at most jobs, it's spread out through the whole day, not just squeezed into an 8 hour work shift.
Check with your doctor to make sure it's safe to drink coffee with the meds you're taking. However, if you're having very strong coffee, or taking caffeine tablets, you might want to stop taking the other meds for that day anyway & see how things go.
Caffeine can conflict with other meds... especially meds that are stimulants that have ingredients in them that end in the letters "ene" or "ine", or steroids. They do not mix well with coffee.
So if caffeine is so similar to other COPD meds chemically why aren't doctors recommending it, or telling you to avoid it? Doctors and drug companies won't make much money if they tell you ordinary cheap coffee is almost the same thing as the meds.
I've recently changed my coffee recipe for even better results. A slightly weaker coffee with a little chocolate, sugar, and milk is even better. They say avoid sugar because it burns O2. BS! Any energy you burn will require O2. Sugar is the quickest was to ingest energy without spending a lot of resources & O2 digesting and processing it. So unless you're already overweight, enjoy your sugar.
I use a weaker cup of instant coffee now. Only a single level teaspoon of cheap generic instant coffee in hot water. 2.5 teaspoons of sugar. 1 heaping teaspoon of Nesquick instant chocolate milk (also has a little caffeine & antioxidants in it), and 1 heaping teaspoon of dry milk. Don't worry if you're lactose intolerant, a teaspoon of low fat dry milk doesn't have enough lactose to bother most people. So you're getting a little protein, vitamin D, calcium, energy & other nutrients with every cup. It's also delicious.
The little bit of low fat dry milk won't generate extra mucus, or slimy spit. I've tried many different recipes over almost a year now. The chocolate instant coffee recipe seems to improve the breathing the best.
The second best was cinnamon (lots of antioxidant) instead of chocolate in the coffee. But I had to use 3 heaping teaspoons of sugar instead of 2.5 for the taste & energy boost I needed. Yum!
With the new chocolate recipe, on a good day, I only need a caffeine tablet with the coffee in the the morning and can avoid more tablets with the coffee for the rest of the day or until the evening. Some good days I may only have 2 cups!
But there are still occasionally bad days where I still need a half tablet with every cup (up to 6 cups a day) to get through a day even with the chocolate.
Grapefruit juice is another daily treatment I use. Again, it had chemicals similar to some meds you may be taking so check with your doctor first or discontinue the meds for the day to see how it works for you. It is safe to take grapefruit juice with caffeine though.
Grapefruit juice is also some pretty potent stuff, so more is not better, and too much can make things worse. Because I need to sleep at night, I usually take about 8 oz. of grapefruit juice after dinner or a couple hours before bedtime. That way I need very little or no caffeine to help me breathe & can sleep better.
Air conditioning! Humidity is the enemy for most of us.That's why it's better to take a bath than a shower too. Showers put too much humidity into the air.
Keep the air cool and dry. Humidity of 40% is ideal for COPD sufferers. Some people can't take it much drier than that, but others are fine down to 0%. Keep it cool. The molecules & oxygen in the air are closer together at cooler temperatures. So you're getting more O2 per breath when the air is cooler.
Blow up a balloon in the hot sun on a hot humid day. Then put the balloon in the fridge for an hour. See how much it shrank? There's just as much O2 in there as before but it's more concentrated so takes up less space. More O2 per breath!
Wear heavy sweatshirts, hoodies, and sweatpants & other warm stuff inside to keep warm, and crank up the AC. Keep it in the 60s F (16-21C) to breathe better. The cool dry are will also slow or stop the growth of mold & bacteria that can be growing in the walls, drains, under the toilet rim, litter box, & other places you can't see it. That stuff thrives on warm or humid damp air.
Don't let the air get stale and de-oxygenated though. Crack the windows open at least a couple times a day to refresh the air. Even in the freezing winter. Turn up the heat or sit in front of an electric heater while the air is being refreshed in winter. It won't take long to refresh the air a little so you can close them again.
Cooking consumes a lot of O2, expels CO, CO2, dirties up the air, and heats the place up, so it's the best time to crack open the kitchen window to let in fresh air during winters.
Can afford that? Keep a small safe room that is always air conditioned, air filtered, and regularly refreshed, to retreat to... like your bedroom. It's pretty cheap to keep 1 small room conditioned well to escape to. Put a TV, computer, and projects to do in there to pass the time with on bad breathing days.
Avoid fireplaces, wood stoves, campfires, and other open flames & fires. They're very, very, bad for COPD. I have to stay home for Christmas and Thanksgiving because family insists they must have logs burning on a fire even though I can't breathe. Ironically my Mom passed away with COPD, but they have forgotten she couldn't breathe near a wood fire either.
Don't like the nasty looks they give me when I start coughing up goo either, so I'm glad to stay home during the holidays anyway.
Air filters! Although your small 400-500 watt window AC has a filter in it that helps, it will only trap large particles or hair, & a few contaminants may condense and stick to the cold damp AC core to be drained to the outside (so yes, they will clean the air a little). Even if you can only afford a couple $40 walmart portable air filters for a small bedroom they do help a lot. H2O2 may not help much if you're already breathing relatively clean air most of the time or overnight when the dirt settles in the lungs the most.
The disposable filters inside can cost almost as much as the units, & may need to be replaced in 3 months. But there's ways around that. Open up the unit to get at the replaceable filters. Tape a thin, cheap, sheet of single ply generic toilet paper over the front of the paper filter assembly. The cheapest version of Scot toilet paper works best for me. Replace the paper every 1-2 months (if you have pets & kids around once a month). The replaceable filters in mine have lasted 19 months so far, and seems like I'll get them to last over 2 years.
I used to desperately gasp for air just walking across the room or going to the bathroom every day for months. With the caffeine, grapefruit juice, AC, & filters, I can get most of my household chores, cooking, and eating done almost every day good enough. I can walk 8 blocks to get groceries, & carry them home, taking a rest for a few minutes every block or so now.
I live on the second floor. I can go downstairs to check my mail every day without much problems now. No cure, but much better than before.
Colloidal Silver
Supplements
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Twice a day:
- CoQ10 - two 60 mg (take w/food that has fat)
- NAC - 600 mg
- Vit D3 - 10,000 IU
- Vit C - 1000 minimum
- MSM - 2000 units
And once a day:
- A good multivitamin
- L Carnitine
- Acetyl L Carnitine
- Calcium (I make eggshell calcium, take with vit C)
- B - 50 complex
- Turmeric (I just put it in capsules)
- Thyme (same, I put it in capsules)
- Magnesium
- Milk Thistle
- Glutithione
Oil of oregano if I'm getting sick, ACV with baking soda per Ted several times a week. No dairy, no sugar, organic veggies and fruit if you can afford them. No fake food, real butter, coconut oil EVERY DAY. H2O2 in my nebulizer some days (there's a section on here about that).
Wow! Looks like a ton of pills, doesn't it. But now I use a rescue inhaler only once a day (Ventolin HFA), some days not at all. I'm now able to walk more, started exercising, feeling and breathing better now than I have in the past two years.
Good luck!
