Hepatitis B Treatment and Holistic Cures

Dear Glen from Rizal, That test you described indicates that you are infected with the hepatitis B virus. Fully one third of people now alive are infected with this viral disease. For most of those people it is not a big problem. For some it is. There are remedies or treatments discussed in this forum`s REMEDIES tab. I myself recommend the BHT treatment....Oscar

To jamaal2013 plz, I need ur help asaap, I am positive wit HB, can u pl add me up on facebook (@Rooneeey) and I need the yoruba name of chanca piedra leaf or how do I get it here in Lagos. Will like to have a chat with you. Is there anybody that know the name of the chanca piedra leaf in yoruba or were to see it in Lagos. Thanks

The Yoruba name for Chanca Piedra is EYIN OLOBE. You could get this from any ELEWE OMO in Lagos.

Chanca Piedra is everywhere in Lagos, try Oyingbo market you probably will get it there the other name for the plant is SEED UNDER LEAF my part of Yoruba calls it EYIN OLUBI (do-do-re-re-re)

Has anybody read or used quails egg for hepatitis and liver health? I need enlightenment about it.

Hi Livercursexlm... Salvia is a much used Chinese herb which is a strong anti-viral. I see no reason why you shouldn't use chanca piedra with salvia, since several people attest to its efficacy when used together with chanca piedra against Hep B.

From the EC archives:

Max from Commerce Township, Michigan replies: "Hi, I just converted Hbsag positive to negative. I could not believe it. My viral load was low. But my doctor said the same thing: you cannot do anything with it, just monitor. But I told him that I am going to fight. And I did. I experimented with both chanca piedra and salvia/ligustrum. When I drunk chanca piedra, my viral load went down to undetectable. But I stopped taking it, because I did not know how long I should take. After some time, my results went up a little bit, then I started taking salvia/ligustrum. And yesterday I saw my doctor who told me that my Hbsag is negative. He did not ask me what I am taking, but said that keep doing whatever I am doing. I also started taking Quercenol (a mix of vitamins, minerals and milk thistle). I am still taking salvia and quercenol hoping that I will become immune and my Hbsab will become positive. But salvia can be taken for 3 months and later you need to take a break.

Chanca piedra is better when you make a strong tea."

Source: https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/hepatitis-b.html

There are also other examples of people using salvia with chanca piedra on the above page link.

Where can I get salvia in south africa or online..

Hello max, congratulations! How long did you have hep b for?

Hi James. I do not know how long I had it. I found out when I was pregnant with my first child eight years ago. I never had any symptoms.

Thank you very very much for your reply Bill, I really appreciate it. is there a Quiapo Market in Quezon City?? isn't it located in Quiapo Manila?? Anyway, I have another question. are there any supplements which contains most of the important vitamins and minerals that you mentioned like alpha liphoic, selenium etc etc coz it would be very expensive to buy those supplements one by one. how about usana supplements?? it says that it has some of the most important minerals like alpha lipoic and many more but its selenium is not food based just like the one you recommend.

Also I would like to ask if its safe for a person with hepatitis b to take fresh cayenne pepper because I've been taking it for more than a week now, 3x a day after meals because I've heard that it's good for the heart and will unclog blocked arteries. even though I don't have any symptoms of heart problems yet, I decided to take cayenne for prevention since almost all of my grandparents, uncle, relatives died from heart problems & stroke. if you have spare time please text me at my cel. no. 09106630286.

BHT [ butylated hydroxytoluene ] worked for me for hepatitis B and C. I used a dosage of 250mg of BHT twice a day with a gulp of distilled water on an empty stomach twice a day....Oscar

I am suffering from HBsAg as I was detected for this virus in 2000 but I have no symptons and as such I married and have 2 children but neither of them till date have no such infections. Mine as per my doctor is reactive is there any way it can be made non reactive. Thanks.

Hi Venugopal...You should be able to get rid of the HBsAg using the Chanca piedra herb in a tea or decoction. It acts as an anti-viral that directly inhibits the reproduction of HBV.

This plant commonly grows all over India so you should be able to purchase the Chanca piedra tea or powder from any Ayurvedic doctor. Chanca piedra(CP) is called bhumy-amalaki in India. This remedy is cheap and effective. See the research here:

Chanca Piedra Research

I also use CP tea to keep my blood sugar, blood fat and blood pressure at healthier lower levels. A simple CP tea(drunk 3 times a day) will also dissolve and eradicate any gallstones and kidney stones in your body and it will also act as a protective for the kidneys and liver.

Hi Bill,

I have read a few posts from you about Chanca Piedra. Want to ask you a few questions:

My liver panel was abnormal about one year ago and had high DNA, but after 2~3 months, the liver panel(ALT, AST and etc) all changed to normal, and DNA decreased to <500; but I didn't monitor them for about year, so in this Jan, I had a test and ALT/AST are mild elevated, but DNA is about 10^7. Following my doctor's words, I just started to take baraclude a few days ago; and the doctor said I will be on the medication for the rest of life. kind of scared...

Say you and a few ppl here cleaned up the virus, so wonder if I can still take Chanca Piedra and Salvia Ligustrum, while I'm taking baraclude at the same time? or I have to stop baraclude?

Meanwhile I'm taking lots of Vitamin C, and some milk thistle and selenium and tumaric and Vitamin B. Are they safe to take? also is Vitamin E safe? Thanks a lot!

Hi Jingle...Chanca piedra is a well-known anti-viral against Hep B and jaundice and is also beneficial against kidney stones and gallstones. I have even read a piece of research where chanca piedra had a high cure rate -- and these people were cured very quickly with Hep B virus levels near zero.

"Two human studies reported chanca piedra's liver protective and detoxifying actions in children with hepatitis and jaundice. Indian researchers reported that chanca piedra was an effective single drug in the treatment of jaundice in children, and British researchers reported that children treated with a chanca piedra extract for acute hepatitis had liver function return to normal within five days. Researchers in China also reported liver protective actions when chanca piedra was given to adults with chronic hepatitis."

Source: Raintree Herbal Databse

Chanca piedra also appears to be effective against liver cancer:

"A 2000 study even documented that chanca piedra increased the life span of mice with liver cancer from thirty-tree weeks (control group without treatment) to fifty-two weeks. Another research group tried to induce liver cancer in mice that had been pre-treated with a water extract of chanca piedra. Their results indicated the chanca piedra extract dose-dependently lowered tumor incidence, levels of carcinogen-metabolizing enzymes, levels of liver cancer markers, and liver injury markers. Both studies indicate that the plant has a better ability to prevent and slow down the growth of tumors rather than a direct toxic effect or ability to kill cancer cells."

Source: Raintree Herbal Databse

Baraclude is commonly used as an anti-viral against Hep B. But this drug does have some significant side effects -- see here. I also think that going to your doctor and asking him or her about whether you should take chanca piedra would be a wasted and costly exercise. Why should a doctor -- who is completely untrained in the use of herbs -- know anything about chanca piedra? So I'm afraid the decision as to how to use the Chanca piedra lies with you alone. Perhaps you can find a knowledgeable naturopath who can help to monitor your progress. The other thing you could perhaps do is start taking the chanca piedra at low dose to see its effects. If these effects are positive, with a reduction in viral load, then you could start to lower the baraclude dosage while increasing the chanca piedra dosage at the same time.

The easiest way to take chanca piedra is as a tea or decoction. Take chanca piedra tea three or four times a day outside mealtimes. Lastly and most importantly, whenever you buy herbs you should always buy the highest quality organic herbs which have minimal have heat or chemical processing involvement. The raw powdered form of organic chanca piedra is best with the most efficacy.

Chanca piedra also has no known side-effects.

As a matter of fact, over the past week or so I've been drinking a strong chanca piedra decoction to help reduce high blood pressure, reduce blood fats, reduce blood sugar, reduce excess blood calcium and to also help reduce high blood pressure. I do this periodically because my diet is certainly not perfect. I simply refer to this as taking out the trash -- all about preventative maintenance.

Hi Bill,

Thanks for the quick and thorough answers. That helps a lot!

So it is safe to take chanca piedra and baraclude at the same time? and will the two interfere with each other? If taking both, how can I tell which one is contributing the decrease of viral load - chanca piedra or baraclude?

Can the chanca piedra eventually clean up all the viral load and change HBsAg to negative?

Also you mentioned to take a low dose of chanca piedra, how many times should I take a day ? still 3 ~ 4 times a day, and one cup a time? how long should I take chanca piedra? Can I take the tea forever if there is no side-effect? I think you or somebody also took Salvia Ligustrum to change the HBsAg to negative? If so, should I introduce Salvia at some point?

In US, where can I get the high quality organic chanca piedra tea? Is Whole Foods a good place to go?

Thanks a lot for your help!

Hi Jingle...As I've said, baraclude is a medicine with significant side effects. From the Baraclude website here are the reported side-effects of baraclude over the long term:

Baraclude can cause serious side effects including:

• Lactic acidosis (buildup of acid in the blood). Some people who have taken BARACLUDE or medicines like BARACLUDE have developed a serious condition called lactic acidosis. Lactic acidosis is a serious medical emergency that can cause death and must be treated in the hospital. Reports of lactic acidosis with BARACLUDE generally involved patients who were seriously ill due to their liver disease or other medical condition.Call your healthcare provider right away if you: feel very weak or tired; have unusual (not normal) muscle pain; have trouble breathing; have stomach pain with nausea and vomiting; feel cold (especially in your arms and legs); feel dizzy or light-headed; have a fast or irregular heartbeat.

• Serious liver problems. Some people who have taken medicines like BARACLUDE have developed serious liver problems called hepatotoxicity, with liver enlargement (hepatomegaly) and fat in the liver (steatosis). Hepatomegaly with steatosis is a serious medical emergency that can cause death. Call your healthcare provider right away if: your skin or the white part of your eyes turns yellow (jaundice); your urine turns dark; your bowel movements (stools) turn light in color; you don't feel like eating food for several days or longer; you feel sick to your stomach (nausea); you have lower stomach pain

• If you are female, very overweight, or have been taking nucleoside analogue medicines, like BARACLUDE for a long time, you may be more likely to get lactic acidosis or serious liver problems.

Source: http://www.baraclude.com/index.aspx#indication

I'm just hammering the point that I think Baraclude is a particularly dangerous medicine because it can cause body acidosis and is so obviously toxic for the liver and can even cause jaundice/cirrhosis over the longer term.

However, from the research, Chanca piedra has no known overdose limit and no known side-effects for the body over the short or longterm.

So it is safe to take chanca piedra and baraclude at the same time?

From the evidence above, common sense would seem to suggest that chanca piedra is the safer one to take for your condition. If you take baraclude at the same time as chanca piedra, then baraclude will act to weaken the body(acidosis) and weaken the liver(causing jaundice) while, at the same time, the chanca piedra(no side-effects) is trying to defeat the Hep B in order to heal the liver. Simply put, baraclude seems to work against the liver healing and Hep B killing effects of chanca piedra. So if it were me, I would just take only the chanca piedra every day and monitor my viral count and progress on a monthly or tri-monthly basis with the doctor as normal.

Can the chanca piedra eventually clean up all the viral load and change HBsAg to negative?

Yes, chanca piedra can cure Hep B. On the other hand, baraclude is only recommended to lower viral load. Modern medicine has no consistent cure for Hep B.

Also you mentioned to take a low dose of chanca piedra, how many times should I take a day ?

If you're start taking chanca piedra on its own everyday then you should work up to a maximum of four cups of tea a day taken outside mealtimes.

how long should I take chanca piedra?

You can take chanca piedra tea as long as you like. Until you are cured.

I think you or somebody also took Salvia Ligustrum to change the HBsAg to negative? If so, should I introduce Salvia at some point?

You can take Salvia ligustrum with chanca piedra if you wish. But a good organic form of chanca piedra powder should be able to kill off the Hep B virus on its own in my opinion.

You should be able to buy wildcrafted organic chanca piedra online at Amazon or Ebay. I get my own supply of organic chanca piedra from my garden in the Philippines and prepare the herb myself.

yeah, the reason why it's hard to decide what to do, is I just started the baraclude, and am scared of stopping baraclude now because of the high DNA viral load...As you said, it's OK to take both of them at the same time earlier? but now seems the two things might interfere... any further explanation will be appreciated..

Mind you the treatment was not easy. It includes strict self - discipline especially when it comes to foods. Avoid all kinds of processed foods, dairy, alcohol, cigarette smoking and other harmful vices. Main foods include mostly green and leafy vegetables and fruits. The treatment was a combination of natural medicine and western medicine. The doctor advised ENTECAVIR (because of high viral load) and the natural doctor prescribed SELENIUM. After 2 years of treatment, HbsAg is non reactive. Take note, the case here is chronic hepatitis b (30 years). Relapse didn't occur because continuation of a healthy living is currently practiced. If I had been cured this means that everyone can be cured from this illness.

Now, if How long and when will you be cured is a difficult question. It's only the Almighty who can answer this. If you want to start treatment, start the changes in your lifestyle. Self - discipline is very much needed and highly essential for the treatment. Next would be laboratory monitoring of Hbsag and Hbeag as well as Sgpt/Sgot. You can do it monthly for at least 3 months to check for the progress of the treatment and if there's a continuous positive result, do it every 2 or 3 months. Treatment is expensive but it is worth it. Good luck

Good day Is theres possible cure to temporary Non-reactive from re-reactive? I will undergo a medical test soon for employment. Hope to hear from you soon. Regards

Please please help me.I'm still hepatitis b patient.i want go Dubai for job but that virus damaged my life.please please please answer me HBV can positive became negative......my mom and dad very upset about me bcz I'm one and only son.

I am in South Africa. Where do I buy salvia ligustrum?

Can reactive turn to be non reactive?

Hi I was diagnose of Hepatitis B, but non reactive, Ia m 49 and, I have 2 grown up children, What foods to avoid? I never drink coffee, soda, cold drinks, no pork meat, but chicken and beef very seldom mostly fish, and green veges.. Thank you, I need your advice please, thanks.

Veronica

Pls can I also use chanca piedra phyllanthus niruri capsule to cure hP b, moreso where can I get CP tea to buy in Nigeria

Dear thanks to first to get this chances to taking with u and geting information am suffering from by this chronic hepatitis b virus and am too confused pls I want ur support so I wait ur response
Regards

hi cabalen..just diagnosed heap B, I drink boiled fresh ginger and turmeric with crushed pepper.please give me the details how to prepare CP, here is all in powder form.how many times do you take everyday? Please help.

Hi. My question is to Bill or anyone who can give me advice I just got my lab done. ALT 63; hepatitis B surface AB quant >1,000.00 ;hepatitis B surface AB qual reactive ; hepatitis B surface Ag nonreactive; hepatitis C virus antibody nonreactive. I'm confuse do I have hepatitis B? Can I start to take Chanca Piedra? Doctor told me to do more blood work in one month. Experiencing some pain in right side ander ribcage. Ultrasound is ok. Wasn't vaccinated. Please help. Thank you!

Hi F Ahmed,

Hope you are fine and doing good.. I am in the similar stage as you are posting the msg. I have gone through all the comments, but did not find any relevant answer. I am in the same stage and frame of mind with no hopes.

Can you please help me. Where did you get treated?? Is it completely cured or not?? How to approach and whom to approach?

Regards, Sateesh

Dealer: A 180 lb. man of average activity requires 500g carbs, 70g high biological value protein, 15g saturated fat, 4g omega 3, 6g omega 6, and 10g omega 9 unsaturated oils to maintain weight. Cooking denatures many proteins, including acetyl carnitine, and many nutrients, including b-6. B-6 activates b-1 and b-2. Conventionally grown food does not have any humic/fulvic acids that activate nutrients, xeronines that activate proteins, or special substances like glycophopholipids that repair the mitochondria. 6g protein is required to replace 1g protein.

The BHT [ butylated hydroxytoluene ] treatment has worked very well for some who have tried it. You need to keep it simple for best results. Things including milk thistle and grapefruit juice will make the treatment NOT work.

A man named Kuba cut his Hepatitis B viral load count down to less than 10% of what it had been in 25 days. Here is what Kuba has to say about this:

Kuba here:

Age: 30
Illness: HepB
Infected since: 1983 (since birth)
BHT started: 03.01.2013
VL test: 14.01.2013 - 1530 ui/ml
VL test: 25.03.2013 - 139 ui/ml
test method real-time PCR

Protocol log:
03.01-10.01 1x350mg BHT bedtime
11.01-11.02 1x350mg BHT in the morning, 1x350mg BHT bedtime
12.02-12.03 cut the dose to 1x350mg BHT at bedtime due to independent severe food poisoning that took almost 4 weeks to ged rid of.
13.03-now got back to 1x350mg BHT in the morning, 1x350mg BHT bedtime

Every other day I take (at least 2 hours away from BHT): vit D3 5000ui, multivitamin iton free, B12, 200mcg selenium (yeast form, non organic forms are bad 4 U)

I could do better with hydrating my body and with workouts.

I do my best to keep the protocol simple as possible. - Kuba

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Most of the people have been using the BHT treatment for hepatitis C. But this treatment seems to work very well for hepatitis B also.

Here is the treatment as refined over the last two years:

• 100mg to 350mg of BHT taken with water on an empty stomach once or twice a day. The dosage varies for each person. Weight is an important factor in determining dosage. Fat content of a person`s body is another. Generally the more you weigh and the higher the fat content of your body the more BHT you need to effectively treat a viral infection. Many average size men have done very well with 250mg of BHT taken twice a day. If adverse side effects occur and persist, LOWER the dosage of BHT used. That is the treatment.
  
  Supplements that have been shown to work well with the BHT treatment are:
  
  1. A regular type multi-vitamin and mineral pill once a day.
  2. A regular type vitamin B complex pill.once a day.
  3. Vitamin B12 in a dosage of 1mg [ milligrams ] per day. 1mg is the same as 1, 000mcg { micrograms ].
  4. Vitamin C in a daily dosage of between 500mg and 1, 000mg per day.
  5. The lipid monolaurin. Unsure about dosage.
  6. Sodium selenite in a daily dosage of 50mcg [ micrograms ].
  
  Also, and importantly: Continue taking any doctor prescribed medicines or drugs. Very many of the people who have had dramatic improvement with this BHT treatment are taking a doctor prescribed medicine of one type or another.
  
  SUPPLEMENTS TO AVOID. Do not take:
  
  1. Milk Thistle and it`s extracts. Degrades the treatment to the point that it no longer works.
  2. Grapefruit juice. Degrades the treatment to the point it no longer works.
  3. Colloidal silver
  4. Hydrogen peroxide taken internally. Hydrogen peroxide is a REACTIVE OXYGEN SPECIES. It will make the BHT treatment NOT work.
  5. MMS [ Miracle Mineral Supplement ]. MMS is chlorine bleach, a very powerful oxidizer that will react with BHT in such a way as to make the treatment not work.
  6. Vitamin E supplements. Yes you NEED some vitamin E. But a normal diet provides plenty. Vitamin E supplements have been shown to enhance lipid coated viruses ability to replicate and should be avoided for that reason.
  
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  For best result stick with those supplements I listed that have been shown to work well with the BHT treatment. Vitamin B12 is an especially good one.
  That is the treatment that works consistently well based on the substantial feedback available....Oscar

Please review Kuba`s treatment plan for hepatitis B. Also, Kuba is a pretty healthy man. In my opinion for people who are pretty sick and or thin I recommend taking NO more than 250mg of BHT per day for the first week and see how you feel with that dosage before considering taking a larger dosage of BHT. You have to find a dosage YOU are comfortable with....Oscar

Dear Oscar,

So glad you are still here helping others to help themselves!

I feel as if we were just spit out of "the belly of the beast" like Jonah & the whale. The whale being the VA. Apparently Marvin is being declined a new liver based on the fact he used BHT and his hepatitis is almost in normal range. They are sending me the current scores, but are taking way too long to do it. We just returned from meeting the surgery team, and the head surgeon said the most interesting thing to me: He said, "God home and finish getting rid of the hepatitis C, because it will be a lot easier to do it now, than it would be after the surgery." He said this to us three times. I literally couldn't believe my ears! He was Chinese, and didn't have enough grasp of the English language to be cagey, nor apparently, to understand that in America we don't actually want to heal people -- we want the money!

The awful part is, that they saw his healing this aspect (the Hep-C) of his end-stage cirrhosis as such a challenge to the two new drugs coming out or some such attitude, that they are claiming I wouldn't be able to follow directions and didn't have the mental capacity to administer his medications properly, and so would "waste a liver."

So-- Marvin now (may I add, at long last, FINALLY), now have no other alternative but to go alternative! This just made for a shocking and rough drop on our heads from a steep cliff, but I am frankly relieved. They wanted Marvin to get even sicker than he is first-- eeking out every possible pain for a penny more. That being, he had to also get cancer first, which he still does not have! Then, after that, treat it with chemo, and THEN, AND THEN, AND THEN.

The poor man is on toxic overload, but we will seek a real, heroic, true doctor's second opinion next. My question is, when in such desperate straits as End-Stage, what do you think of doing Berkson Therapy and BHT? Marvin desperately needs someone to come alongside him, a docotr interested in helping him heal his own liver, and I am not a doctor so cannot of course give any medical advice whatsoever. Neither can you, so, just asking as a friend, what would you do? Only a doctor can re-evaluate the liver-toxic soup he is on, and try healthy alternatives that heal.

I must tread a little carefully here, but the hour is come and something must be done to reverse the liver--toxic compounds given to him daily to allow the liver to regenerate itself, let the BHT do it's job-- and let the man try to heal. The far-advanced cirrhosis itself, must be healed, now that he has almost no Hep-C.. I am saddened that we wasted so much precious time going down this merry road, with no effort made to actually heal Marvin, only to weaken him further and further.

The bright spot here, however, is that we are finally on the same page, and it has been decided for us, so now we only have a healthy choice as a viable alternative! For this, I AM GRATEFUL.

Love to you, my friend, Oliver -- Wayseeker.

Anchy: Electricity cures everything. All cells thrive and all pathogens perish when the electricity is high. Imagine a huge electrical storm inside the body energizing the cells and the virus is getting zapped. Raw, fermented, organic, grassfed, and wildharvested nutrients have high electromagnetism and cooked conventional food has low electromagnetism as seen through a tesla scope.

Mike, Please explain more. I do not understand what I need to do. Thanks.

Anchy: Radio waves have frequencies. The frequency of the cells is not the same as that of pathogens. All diseases are caused by low electrical energies in the cells. All people have to do is increase the electrical energies in the cells. Pathogens are not able to survive in this atmosphere. Enzymes from raw food and live ferments and bioactive minerals from organic fruits and vegetables and raw grass fed animal products like hamburger and eggs increase the electrical energies in the cells. For example raw yogurt from a cow who had been eating grass would increase energies. Pasturized yogurt from a cow who had been eating grains would not. Google raw food videos. If you live in the country you can make green smoothies from edible plants for free. Sun dried sea salt also increases energies. I take 85% raw organic produce and 15% raw grass fed animal products so I can get all the various nutrients because this is also necessary. Some of these products are live ferments.

In addition to diet, it is very important to check your thyroid because 1) liver disease can directly effect thyroid function and 2) low or hypothyroid lowers the voltage in almost every cell in the body. So, be sure to have dr check Thyroid and supplement Iodine in some concentrated form; you can now purchase Iodized sea salt. L Tyrosine is also taken up by the thyroid to make hormones so it would help to take as a supl.

Anyway, it is imperative to optimize cell voltage for any complete recovery or healing to occur. In severe cases using a Zapper a few times daily will help. Some folks have the need to wear them for several hrs per day. A Zapper is like a second immune system and is proven to increase cell voltage.

Hello Sir, try the protocol I described which is mine and you will feel better in no time. Find a doctor who can give you B12 and Vitamin C injections, Glutathion injection. Take vitamin D and Sylmarin, N acetylcystein. Best regards,

Hi, chancapiedra can be found anywhere in Cebu at no cost. You can make chancapiedra tea without a single peso taken from your money. Its up to you if you take another food supplement together, but for me chancapiedra alone is enough.