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Osgood Schlatter Disease
Posted by R (Littleton, Co) on 03/25/2010
I am looking for any help and or suggestions for Osgood-Schlatter Disease. I have an adult in my family that still suffers from knee pain related to this disease. Thanks in advance for any help.
Osgood Schlatter Disease
Posted by Deirdre (Atlanta, Ga, Usa) on 03/26/2010
Hi R. After years of many hours a day of gymnastics training from the time I was 5, I finally got a terrible (AWFUL) case of Osgood-Schlatter Disease (serious swelling below the knee cap) on my left side when I was 11 years old. It was so bad, it abruptly ended my gymnastics passion. It was extraordinarily painful at the time and took a good year or two to heal. The lump is still there though I rarely feel any lingering pain unless I accidentally "bump the lump". For me the key to my OSD and other knee issues (meniscus injury, arthritic joints) is daily exercise, thus keeping circulation running through the entire area. Hanging upside down on my inversion board also helps increase circulation in my legs when needed.
I also apply magnesium oil to my knees when they are feeling painful and take omega 3 fish oil and primrose oil almost daily. Omega 3s are supposed to be taken with primrose oil or they will increase inflammation, according to an osteopathic doctor I talked to. Both of these supplements help tremendously. I haven't tried them yet, but a few folks on EC talk about apple cider vinegar or castor oil wraps for knee issues. Please let us know what you find out!
Multiple Remedies
Posted by Christine (Virginia Beach, Va, Usa) on 09/05/2009
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Sprained my knee badly a few weeks ago. Have tried MSM, apple cider vinegar, cayenne, etc. Nothing works, although ACV and MSM do reduce swelling a little. It takes a long time to recover from a sprain, and working on your feet all day as I do just makes it take longer.
Multiple Remedies
Posted by Joyce (Joelton, Tn) on 09/06/2009 490 posts
Hi Christine,
Passing along a home remedy I learned from a patient's mother. She said her daughter twisted her ankle the evening before. The child's ankle looked fine and I could move it all around without any wincing from pain. I could find nothing wrong with it and asked if she was sure she twisted it the day before. After her assurance she did, I asked what she did for it.
Her answer: "I took a piece of brown poke, scruffed it between my hands to get the stiff out, soaked it in vinegar and wropped it around her foot and ankle and left it on all night. After further questioning as to the identity of the piece of brown poke (my first guess was some dried poke sallet leaves) but it turned out to be brown paper grocery bag. When I got home that evening, I found my daughter had twisted her ankle again that day, so we used the brown poke soaked in vinegar, wrapped it around her foot and ankle, covered it with saran wrap, then used ace bandage to keep it on and left it on over night.
Next morning we were both happy to find that she was walking without pain, where she usually limped for a week or two afterwards.
Another EC correspondent recently wrote in about her husband's bad knee flare up and how she waited until he went to sleep and wrapped a vinegar soaked towel around his knee & covered it with saran wrap and left it on overnight and how much better his knee was the next morning. Since she said the towel soaked with vinegar worked so well, you probably can omit having to scruff the stiff out of the brown poke and go with the towel.
Good luck with the vinegar, but I would also keep up the MSM.
Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Julia (Bryson City, Nc) on 08/27/2009
regarding the ACV putting it on the knees. Will this burn the skin in any way? thanks, julia
Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Talia (Redondo Beach, California, Usa) on 08/27/2009
Hi Julia, Apple cider vinegar can cause a burn-like reaction on the face if you apply it straight (without diluting it) for more than 10 minutes because the face is delicate. But I've never had any problems when I have applied it to other parts of the body undiluted. However if you have a scab in the area, acv may irritate it.
Baking Soda
Posted by Abdul Aziz (Islamabad, Pakistan) on 08/16/2015
HY! I have pain in back of my left knee, and I am using ACV for for general detoxification, but I think it didn't have any effect on my knee, now I will try your remedy, but not sure what to do wth boil water exactly describe, thanks.
Multiple Remedies
Posted by Eveline (Canadian, living in Spain) on 05/26/2009
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Is it possible to get too many minerals? I have been having ongoing pain in my knees for a long time now, almost 2 years. Some times it has been much worse and it often varies even within a day. I cannot crouch down at all anymore, have trouble getting up from the couch and have troubles going up and down stairs. I feel like an old lady. And I'm not!!
Nothing seems to be helping. I am Oil Pulling. I drink ACV, I drink turmeric tea, I take a TBS of aloe vera daily. I also drink a glass of water with himalyan salt dissolved in it. I use Magnesium oil every second day or so. I have used MMS, H2o2, have just completed my third liver cleanse (with no stones evident this time) have used jars of MSM cream. I don't drink coffee or alcohol, don't eat a lot of sugar, don't drink soda or eat processed foods. I have cut back on meat consumption lately. I have started recently using blackstrap molasses which is giving me another burst of minerals, I take it. Perhaps I am getting too many minerals, what with the himalyan salt, the aloe vera, the magnesum oil and the molasses? Any ideas?
I also suffer from a heel spur. If the heel is not hurting badly then the knees seem worse. If the knees are not bad then the heel is bad. The heel spur is more recent however. The knees, as I say, have been a problem now quite some time. I am at my wits end living with this constant pain. I cannot exercise like I need to and realize I could stand to lose some weight.
I really appreciate this website. It is so interesting and gets to be quite addictive. I have looked at everything I can about joint pain and heel spurs etc. Have tried the ice water, ACV wraps, etc. etc. I am so envious when I read about people who got rid of their pain almost instantly!! I have yet to pinpoint the perfect thing for me. I refuse to believe this is the way it has to be. I've been working with EFT but to no avail as well.
Thanks for any tips or suggestions.
Eveline
Multiple Remedies
Posted by Alain (Ottawa, Canada) on 05/28/2009
Answer to Eveline from Canada, living in Spain about knee pain
I have Various ideas for knee problems.
Did you or Can you check spine and hip alignments with a chiropractor? Sometimes misalignment can cause terrible pressures on knees.
Also I would encourage you to check pH of urine and saliva. I would say, especially the urine's pH in case of uric acid accumulation. If the pH is on the acidic side, which is IMO most likely, an alkalizing diet will benefit greatly. But for pH testing, pH paper is an almost necessary monitoring tool.
Vitamin C (the buffered one like calcium ascorbate, this kind is not acid forming), Omega 3 from Cold Water Fish oil. Better yet, cold water small fishes like sardines and salmons (with bones). With these fishes you well get omega oil and bio-available calcium.
You use Magnesium oil, but there is something much cheaper that you can use. Epson Salt (Magnesium sulphate) is very cheap. Either externally, Epson salt baths/foot baths/compresses (see http://www.epsomsaltcouncil.org/health_usage_tips.htm ), or internally, a small pinch of ES with glass of water. In such small amount, you will not have the flushing effect. Epson salt contains sulphur, as MSM does. So the Epson salt provides both sulphur and magnesium.
Cayenne pepper for blood circulation.
There is a hand held device you can buy from internet that produce ultrasound vibrations which help blood circulation.
You may stop liver flush for a while as it is making your system acidic. Anything that detox makes someone acidic.
External use:arnika gel or tincture. H2O2 3% rubbing. Peppermint oil rubbing.
See https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/sprains.html
https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/knees.html
https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/arthritis.html
pH balance helped me quite a bit with my knee problems.
Good luck.
Multiple Remedies
Posted by Eveline (Canadian living in Spain) on 06/05/2009
To Alain who kindly replied to my queries: Thanks for that info about acid alkaline balance. Makes sense to me. It took a bit of doing but I finally found some pH paper here in small town Spain. I consistently measure in around 6 pH. I've started drinking lemon juice with cayenne every morning and am watching that I eat more akalinizing foods, altho right now that's proving difficult because I'm traveling and it's harder to stay away from bread and some of the other acid forming foods on the road. I had been eating lots of small fishes here in Spain, using calcium ascorbate and yes, I had a series of chiropractic adjustments back home in Canada before I left for Spain. As I said, this has been ongoing for a while now.
You're suggestion about taking the epson salts internally sent a shiver up my back as that's the most loathsome part of the liver flushes, drinking that darned epsom salt. However, it's different just putting a pinch in water for sure, but ugh! Since I have the magnesium oil I will continue with it until I run out. I have used the H2O2 externally to no avail but will keep working towards a 7 on the pH scale. I just want to GET BETTER! As of yet, no changes.
Multiple Remedies
Posted by Kelly (Toledo, Ohio) on 06/07/2009
I READ A POST A LITTLE WHILE AGO HERE THAT SUGGESTED SPRAYING H2O2 DIRECTLY ON THE JOINT, SEVERAL TIMES A DAY WOULD HELP HEAL AND CONSEQUENTLY RELEIVE SOMEONE OF PAIN. HONESTLY, IT SOUNDED KOOKY, BUT I THUOGHT " WHAT DO I HAVE TO LOOSE IT CAN'T HURT". THE PAIN RELIEF WASN'T IMMEDIATE BUT WITHIN A COUPLE OF DAYS IT WAS LESS AND IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS I WASN'T USING THE KNEE WRAP AS MUCH AND NOW I HARDLY EVER USE IT. NOW MIND YOU I AM VERY OVERWEIGHTAND THE INJURY WAS SEVERE( I TWISTED A KNEE JOINT BADLY THAT ALREADY HAD ARTHRITIS IN IT ). I USE A 20/1 MIX- 20OZ WATER(DISTILLED) TO 1 OZ 3% H202(CVS PHARMACY) MY SKIN DRIES OUT WITH TOO MUCH PEROXIDE BUT YOURS MAY NOT SO YOU COULD UP IT A LITTLE. IT REALLY WORKS!
Multiple Remedies
Posted by Catherine (Wellington, New Zealand) on 05/01/2011
with such low PH maybe you should check for celiacs or gluten sensitivity (not quite the same thing) Maybe even another food intolerance or allergy.
Turmeric
Posted by Elyn (Oklahoma City, Ok, Usa) on 04/26/2010
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I bought some turmeric pills from Walmart and used the whole bottle. No relief for this girl. I was so hoping it would do the trick for my joints and knees. Had my husband on it also until I reread the bottle and it would have interfered with one of his meds. Oh well-- it was worth the try.
Knee Pain Exercise
Posted by Grannymelva (Mountain Home, Idaho) on 04/03/2014
I have been doing knee exercises on my bed for at least five years now. I figured if it was good enough to strengthen my knee before knee replacement, it would be good enough to help the other knee so it would not need replaced. I like the leg lift in the air. I like the side leg lift swing. But, knee is acting up now. That is why I am checking out this site. And I am mid-70s.
Knee Pain Exercise
Posted by Mmsg (Somewhere, Europe) on 04/03/2014
Grannymelva, I've found a little trick that has helped very well for knees: I walk with my toes slightly pointed inwards, which results in my toes pointing straight ahead, since I used to walk with feet splayed out to the sides.
Coconut and Wild Oregano Oils
Posted by Pat (Tupelo, Mississippi) on 06/04/2008
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I have an arthritic knee with chondromalcia patella. It was really bothering me one night at bedtime so i rubbed coconut oil on first around my knee then a few drops of oregano oil. Within five minutes my knee pain was gone. This is wonderful stuff.
Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Pat Spurgis (Melbourne, Florida) on 02/25/2008
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Praise God This Works. Thank My GOD, And Thank You, I had a sence of tiredness and I have arthrits, an knee problems, bone on bone,(PAINFUL) I took 2tabs. ACV, 1.tesp.baking soda, plus I've been on lemon, [baking] soda (same dosage) and 1000uts of MSM I need some potassium, but it's much better.
Distilled Water
Posted by Josephine (Kansas City, Kansas) on 12/27/2007
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If you have any swelling in your knees or legs,stop drinking everything and drink only Distilled Water, I promise it will take the swelling away. Please try it for a week and see results. My knee was swollen and the doctor prescribes Steriods, and instead I did the distill water.
Cold Showers
Posted by Laura (Bucharest, Romania) on 02/28/2016
I don't think it is the time, it is just the water...I have also noticed that after shower with warm or cold water, no matter the time of the day, the pain goes away.
Turmeric
Posted by Nina (India) on 03/17/2017
Hi,
can someone please tell me the exact dosage I should take and for long do we have to continue taking it. Thanks so much, Nina
Oil Pulling
Posted by Maya (Singapore, Singapore) on 08/16/2007
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Hi. I only discovered about oil pulling while browsing the web on information on how to cure me of my skin disorder (keratosis pillaris). I read a posting done by this lady who SWEARS by oil pulling and its remarkable effects! I tried it just yesterday and was shocked at how fast results can be observed! I'm suffering from a knee injury due to my active lifestyle and since i'm not exactly young, i don't recover too easily. I've been having a bad knee for weeks now. But when i did my first oil pulling yesterday, i got IMMEDIATE results! My knee felt so light and i was able to do squats with no problems! I'm really a sceptic so i was finding ways to credit the improved knee flexibility to other 'health practices' of mine. But when my mom tried it later that night (she sufferes from acute arthritis), she too said that her joints felt remarkably better! i did it again this morning and later today, my heart was racing. Also, i feel a bit of discomfort in my private region. I don't know if it could be because i had an infection before and it was probably in the process of healing...i'll continue the OP and see what happens! I'm a convert!
Oil Pulling
Posted by Desiree (Ny) on 01/11/2011
I started having knee problems once while taking an antibiotic called Levaquin. It is a member of the fluroquinolone family of antibiotics- Cipro is another. I was prescribed heavy doses on a regular basis for recurring UTI's and bladder infections. A couple of years ago, while taking the medications, I noticed a severe weakness is my knees. I felt like they were just going to snap. I had trouble getting around and was in a lot of pain. I got on line and did some research and it didn't take long to find out that the FDA issued a black box warning a couple of years ago for these types of antibiotics because they have shown to cause spontoaneous rupture of the tendons, in the achiles, the knees, the shoulders and hands.
I immediately stopped taking the drugs and started oil pulling because from my understanding, fluroquinolones have a certain type of fluoride that can be particularly toxic and oil pulling may be helpful in reducing the levels of fluoride in the body. I did notice marked improvement after a few days, though my knees have never been the same. I did not have any knee problems before, was not doing anything strenuous-- the only variable was the Levaquin. Now I still have cracking in my knees that can be painful at times. In addition to the oil pulling, I have also begun moderate strength training to build up the muscles around the knee and this helps very much. I try not to cross my legs as much too as this seems to put pressure on my knees.
Oil Pulling
Posted by Carly (Seattle, Wa - Usa) on 01/11/2011
Turmeric is a great anti-inflamitory! I love it stirred into tomato juice along with some black pepper, or in my one cup of morning coffee along with a tablespoon of VCO (Virgin Coconut Oil). I use about 1/2 tsp (or a bit less) 2x a day now. When I first started taking it I went overboard, and had some stomach issues, so I stopped for a while. I started in taking it again, but at a much reduced amount and built up to the amount I take now s-l-o-w-l-y.
I also have found taking Boron (capsules) has made my joint pain go away. Google "Boron and Arthritis" and see what comes up - it is awesome and inexpensive. :-) You also need to take D-3 at at least 2,000 a day and a good Magnesium along with as they interact with each other to help bones. Apparently from what I have been reading, Boron is every bit as important for building strong bones as Calcium is. (along with a LOT of other functions, hence my suggestion to Google it! )
One more thing that is excellent for inflamation (and avoiding getting sick) is Vitamin C. When all of those around me have the dreaded CRUD - I start taking 1,000mg Of Vitamin C at least 4x a day... And have not caught anything from anyone in a long time. Research Linus Pauling and Vitamin C - some very interesting reading!
Oil Pulling
Posted by Francisca (Michelbach-le-bas, Alsace, France) on 01/18/2011
Con, I mix turmeric in a lot of dishes and soups and I don't even notice it. I often also mix minced garlic just before serving and nowadays a bit of raw olive oil as well.
Trace Minerals
Posted by Tami (Chattanooga, TN) on 08/04/2007
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My right knee was injured playing softball. A very smart alternative health practitioner told me that all illness, ie staph, strep and any virus, etc goes to the injury area. She said if you want any injury area to heal, you need to give it added nutrition and support. Since I had some liquid Trace Minerals at home, I put a quarter size amount on my palm and rubbed it onto my knee. After doing this for two weeks my right knee felt stronger than my good left knee. Later playing racquetball, I injured my left knee - and the Trace Minerals came thru again! I now apply liquid Trace Minerals directly externally over my heart, liver, kidneys, pancreas and colon. Plus my knees! This is incredible!
Trace Minerals
Posted by Purelife (Columbia, Sc) on 04/29/2012
I know this is an old post, but if you still stop in to EC, could you say what brand you used or if any will kind will let me know. Looking for an answer. Thanks
Apple Cider Vinegar
Posted by Jason (Murray Utah)
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I have been taking ACV with honey for about two weeks now and have noticed that severe pain in my knees has gone away. I take about 2 teaspoons of ACV and 2 teaspoons of honey 2-3 times a day. I weight lift a lot and have had pain in my knees on and off for quit some time now. SInce drinking ACV and honey it appears to have disappeared.
Weight Loss
Posted by Susan (Tampa, FL)
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I started to have knee issues after gaining about 10 lbs. I had been about the same weight my whole life until I turned 34. Then, after being on anti-anxiety medication for a year, I started to put on the pounds! I figured out the extra weight was putting pressure on my meniscus when I worked out and spent the next few months losing the weight. Oh yes, I went off the medication too! I also massaged my thigh muscles (front and back) daily as I learned from my doctor that too much muscle tension causes stress on the knee as well. Long story short -- I went back to my original weight and haven't had any knee problems since then.
MSM
Posted by Deirdre (Los Angeles)
★★★☆☆BETTER BUT WITH SIDE EFFECTS
I keep re-injuring my knee from strenuous exercise. I find that MSM heals the tenderness in my meniscus very fast -- usually overnight. However, I started to take double the dosage last week and also started having side effects for the first time! You never hear about the side effects of MSM, but I think it probably happens to people more than they realize. I started to have shortness of breath and a racing heartbeat at night when I lay down to sleep. That lead to a slight panic attack because I kept feeling like I wasn't getting enough oxygen. I am not sure how MSM affects the muscles around the heart and or lungs, but it perhaps tightens them (possible?) causing this sensation. Would love to know if anyone experiences the same side effects.
MSM
Posted by Cab (Nunda, Ny) on 07/03/2014
I had that happen -- figured it was the vitamin C. I was doing high dose C, and liposomic which makes exponential absorption, so it could have equaled out to 40 to 60 grams a day, plus the MSM. Sometimes I'd take maybe 6 grams of C with some baking soda and the MSM with water. After a month of this I was having such severe heart pains and flutters if I tried to lay down I felt like I was going to have a heart attack and die. I now have spider veins that I did not have before, and I am still weakened and I have an aged appearance now I didn't have before. I don't know if it was the high dose C or the MSM or a combination of both. I think I'm lucky I'm alive. I have heard since that vitamin C is a complex, not an isolate, and should not be taken as an isolate. And I don't.
