Natural Remedies for Leaky Gut Syndrome

Wanted to clarify some things from my first post as I feel like I'm trying so many things for several different issues--is it leaky gut, candida, perioral derm and what do I eat or not eat--do I go gluten free, do I add the baking soda (do recall doing that yrs ago). I added the ACV--but then read here that ACV was bad for candida...?

It is the same basic thing- inflammation on my face-chin and throat but this time my lips were swollen and the redness went almost up to my nose and had many red raised oozy patches that come and go. Also had the sore cuticles and red raised patches on my fingers which had not been happening for the last few yrs. I have had this all before-in fact- some of these symptoms -like on my fingers- I had 30 yrs ago.

Anyway--two weeks ago it was particularly BAD and I went to another Dr who suggested "oracea" 40 mg (for 2-3 months) so I decided to try it.. he said he thinks that this is "perioral dermatitis"--but of course did not address what was causing it but because I was in so much pain-- I thought I'd give it a go.

Someone had suggested tetracycline a few yrs back and I started on it and my whole face got red so she thought I might be allergic to it--but this seems to be helping. There is one NEW symptom which is troubling--I have significant discomfort just below my bra in the front--not a pain exactly--more like an ache. I have had it for a few months and figured it was ramping up as the whole system was going out of wack again.

Anyway-- I started back on the digestacure (aloe vera) supplements that I really felt had healed things. I am taking 8 caps a day and it does not seem to be working this time-like last Thanksgiving.

I am also taking:

1.apple cider vinegar (1 tablespoon in 12 oz of water thru the day) and topically for burn and itch

2.grapefruit seed extract (45 drops in 12 oz of water thru the day)

3.bio-K-1 container a day

4. I'm taking 3600 mg omega 3s, 2000 mg Vit C, 2000 iu vit d3, green source, B-complex, CoQ 10, 1000 mg cal-mag and lysine. I also have glutamine which I was taking 1 tsp in water am and pm cause it is supposed to heal the gut lining.

5. yogurt--eating lots and also using as a face mask

6. other meds-tamoxifen, "z & z" (zantac & zirtec) and I started the singular again as that worked a few yrs back.

Needless to say--I'm keeping very busy with just functioning-I am not using any creams other than vaseline and an incontinence product called "calmoseptine" and have all of the raised "spots" healed but the whole area is still very red--on reading about perioral dermatitis they stress not getting onto steroids creams -and other various meds --and you know I'd rather treat homeopathically.

So--there you have it --I'm leaning towards a candida flare as well as the leaky gut--and as I had done before--no coffee, alcohol, choc or motrin and I quit juicing so many fruits and veggies everyday cause I thought maybe that was too much sugar and or maybe I p/u a parasite or bug from that stuff. I can tell you I had a "small" sliver of B-day cake on Sept 4th and was sore as hell on the 5th and it had been coming along and healing slowly but is not going away.

So---any thoughts?

Sylvia

Just read in a book by Jeff Primack, Conquering Any Disease- it said that if you take @ 2 Tablespoons a day of fermented vegetables, like Kim Chi and Saurkraut, but must be organic and NOT pasturized, that it will heal "leaky gut". If this is like SIRS, then you might follow his protocal for IBS, type 1 Diabetes, asthma and autism. Not sure if there is any similarities to GERD... I was thinking Manuka Honey, with a high UMF of 20 ... best of luck...

Hi, could you maybe post a review on that book you just read on the book review page? It will be easier to find it in case someone is interested in reading it! I might be if you tell me a bit more about what the book is all about..... By the way, I have just read a book about Candida and the author says: no choucroute (Saurkraut).... Funny how they all give different advice.... I am about to start a diet but I am going to take bits and pieces out of several books!

I have just read that someone on an anti-candida diet shouldn't use any kind of vinegar. Difficult to eat salads without any dressing..... I am not sure whether it makes a difference if it is ACV. I thought that it would kill germs....

Hi again, a book I read a while ago Beat Candida Through Diet says that Sauerkraut is ok when you are on the diet. ACV as well. Also marinate all the fish and meat you eat usually with olive oil, lemon and crushed garlic. It also says that you should start a meal with something cold like a bit of carrot, not with a soup, for example! Very interesting book if you want to get rid of Candida!

Hi Sylviag, Your perioral dermatitis is probably caused by the leaky gut (Intestinal Permeability). Leaky gut can be caused by candida, parasites, poor digestion, bowel infections, certain drugs like NSAIDs or antibiotics, and I'd be sure there are many more. More than likely it's not just one but a combination. If your not sure about the cause but know you have candida then you could start to treat the candida and include something for parasites as well (like black walnut).

As your body is dealing with extra toxins due to the leaky gut it is important that you give your liver some extra help at this time (eg. Milk thistle, dandelion). You also need to help your digestion with things such as bitter herbs, dandelion, digestive enzymes and ginger.

Juicing is great but with a leaky gut you already have extra toxins (poisons) running around your system, so if the fruit and veg is not organic you will be adding more poisons in the form of herbicides and pesticides for your liver to try and deal with. Protein powders are often made using a bad process so you need to know it is pure and unadulterated. A lot of hydrolyzed protein is made using msg, genetically engineered bacteria and you won't find them on the ingredients list.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrolyzed_protein

http://www.truthinlabeling.org/HowIsItManufactured.html

Many years ago I was adding an hydrolyzed protein to our veggie juice and I now know it did us more harm. The source they are made from also needs to have all the essential amino acids otherwise it is an incomplete protein. Yes I know there are studies out there that say hydrolyzed proteins are good for us but we also need to look at who funded those same studies!

With leaky gut you end up malnourished with toxic overload. I believe magnesium is an absolute must as it is involved in so many of the processes in the body. Also alkalizing may help, but do it 1/2 - 1 hr after a meal and don't eat for 2 hours after taking it. Both of these may also help your PD. With the PD I would avoid all petrochemicals on your skin. All the best.

Thank you for your post Maria--My husband just left for the store to get me some milk thistle--I have heard that was good for the liver--I'm also going to try a product I used before--it is an orange flavored powder-you mix with water--I think you can do just that for a few days or supplement to your "diet". It is supposed to repair your intestines. I never dreamed that I could be doing something bad for my body by juicing everyday--I'd use banana, strawberries, blueberries, orange, carrot, spinach, kale-whatever I had either fresh or frozen--added protein powder or yogurt and made a blender FULL and had it all day--I loved it. I have had a rash before and it wasn't just on my face--it showed up on my inner thigh and also on my arms--but this has just localized on my chin and throat and now involves my lips.... my Dr wants to "try" prednizone" --but I resisted--she is talking about writing me off work for a few weeks--I may do it.

I'm exhausted from the pain and itch and trying to keep up with all of the remedies--and then most of the time I don't know what to eat. Was going to have oatmeal (old fashioned kind you cook) but the box said it is processed in a facility with wheat and I don't know if I should try to stay gluten free or not. My son-in-law has celiacs and my daughter has been very helpful about what is or is no gluten free. Thanks again for the suggestions! Sylvia

Silvia, not meaning to be negative, but why would you want to try an "orange flavoured product" to supplement your diet. What is the product flavoured/sweetened with? What are the ingredients? Especially if you have dermatitis, I would be wary of adding processed products to the mix, even if they are "healthy" products. The same applies to the protein mix you were adding to your juices. They probably have MSG and/or aspartame added.

You are better off adding "whole foods" to the mix spirulina/chlorella which are both good for the liver as well.

For the dermatitis, I read recently that idodine applied to the skin with "natural" vitamin E (not synthetic) will help dermatitis. You could try a small patch to test it. Iodine taken internally also will help your leaky gut.

From the iodine section on earthclinic:

"Using decolorized iodine for the face, take a q-tip and dab the dermatitis with iodine. If this is not on your face, you can use regular iodine. But it will stain you orange for a few hours. If your dermatitis is on sensitive skin around your nose, like me, it will burn like crazy when you apply the iodine. Don't inhale the fumes while it is drying (takes about 10 seconds to dry). After it dries, apply some natural vitamin e oil. I open a large capsule and use that for several days before it runs out. Your skin will redden from the iodine and dry out, but the vitamin e will heal it and keep it from flaking. Keep this area moist with vitamin e oil all day and night if possible. Do the topical iodine for 2 days, 3x a day. After the 2nd day, cut the iodine back to 1x a day. However, you will still want to keep the vitamin e oil on all day. After 3 days of 1x daily application of iodine, cut the iodine back to every other day. Continue every other day for 10 days (or less). Keep up the vitamin e oil every day until the dermatitis has disappear completely. Let me tell you, the iodine and vitamin 3 oil starts to work on clearing up the dermatitis in about 24 hours! Initially the skin will look red and inflamed, but don't worry... the vitamin e speeds up the healing process."

Hi Sylviag, I do not know the digestacure caps you mentioned but aloe vera juice is recommended for healing the gut so you may get better results from the juice. I remember using a particular brand of nutrients that was good but then I noticed they weren't working as well - found out later they were bought out by a different company. Slippery elm powder taken with aloe vera juice in water before meals is also beneficial.

Some people also add acidophilous powder (or just take capsules) and glutamine powder and drink it 1/2 hour before 2 meals a day. It may be easiest just to try them as one drink and see if you get any help. I have only just remembered a young man, who was diagnosed early, he took slippery elm and aloe juice in water before each meal with a probiotic and he is fine now. He also had peppermint tea during the day. We did not know about glutamine then. If you can take time off work it would help to lower your stress, stress being an aggravator of both your conditions. The main thing it would do is give you time to treat yourself and in between everything you have to do you might get some rest!

Seriously though leaky gut is a precursor to chronic fatigue. Before taking time off it would pay to work out what you are going to do and have everything you need before you start.

Bill (from the Philippines) has written about candida here, he is the 3rd post on the page. https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/mystery-diagnosis.html#BILL

It would be worth asking your Dr to do a blood test for celiacs and gluten intolerance seeing as you reacted to the birthday cake. Once you know either way it will make your diet decisions easier. If you do not have any problem with gluten but still have a problem with some grains then it might be the chemicals they use in storing them and in the bleaching process. Sleep is very important and I found that to break the sleepless cycle I have used tryptophan or 5htp. Taken 1 hour before bed, definitely not with any protein. Now I put a cd of music on to drop off too. All the best.

Hello again, Regarding juicing, what we ended up doing was taking barley grass or wheat grass powder mixed into 1/2 glass water followed by a glass of water as a chaser, 2x a day. I would buy a tub of one then the next time the other so as to get the benefits of both. We are about to start having some barley grass again. Anyway, I'll leave you to digest all the sugestions you have received. You will find your answers as you keep searching and trying things out. All the best, Maria

Hello Maria--NOO I did not think you were being negative--I appreciate everyone's input. The orange stuff was to repair the intestines and I had used it before and thought it helped-- I am trying to keep up with all of the suggestions and you are right--you have to "digest them all! I'm going to read up on the iodine--that was never mentioned before.

I do have a problem navigating this site--I try to make the font as small as possible and still have to read and move the screen left and write--also the "donate" and "share your feedback" tabs do not go away and I have to "read" around them. Thanks! Sylvia

Hi Sylviag, I had the same problem with reading the screen, sometimes it was ok and others not. Then my Hubby showed me how to alter it. On your keyboard press the key Ctrl (control) and whilst still holding it down you press the - (minus) key. You can do it again if it is still not small enough. If it goes to small then you press the Ctrl key and hold it down whilst you press the (plus) key. Happy digesting!

Hello --and thanks for the tip on how to navigate the pages--worked like a charm! I did not realize that I was missing some of the posts either and I also responded to Maria but it was Debbie re the orange powder--Ha--I'll get better at this I'm sure!

Anyway--have had sort of a break thru--have been thinking I was doing real well by eating yogurt with my frozen blueberries at night (instead of ice cream) and picked up Deepak Chopra's book last night to see if he says anything re oil pulling and I saw a reference to yogurt --so I thought I'd read what he had to say and yogurt is absolutely "OUT" for a Pitta personality--which supposedly I am---so no more yogurt. I am trying a colon cleanse and not eating bread or pasta and sticking with the brown rice/fish/chicken/veggies and one or two fruits a day and lots of water. I am off of work for a few weeks and trying to relax and I think if I can venture out tomorrow--will get the iodine-- I understand you can get the iodine that doesn't stain and to dab with a q-tip onto my chin (sounds horrendous--worse than the ACV! ) but how /how much to ingest if I were to try that?

Silvia, re the iodine you can get lugols online.. it is safe to take internally. Also for iodine you need the companion nutrients to have with it. Magnesium, selenium (brazil nuts), and vitamin c.

I use magnesium chloride in a bath or epsom salts. It's a better way to get magnesium into the body. I take 2 brazil nuts per day and between 1-3 gram vitamin c (sodium ascorbate)

I also have leaky gut and had a TERRIBLE case of perioral dermatitis. I started washing my face with coconut oil and manuka honey (i get it at trader joes, way cheaper). I mix a small amount of the two in my hands and wash my face with it morning and night. Also do not use any soaps or products with sulfate in them as that can aggravate the perioral dermatitis. It worked like a charm! Skin looked awesome and clear after a week and a half.

Your symptoms remind me of a friend that has very similar issues and it was Candida die off. She was detoxing the Candida too fast so that may be what's going on with you.
I don't know where you are from from I see a naturopath doctor in Minnesota that is very successful helping people with a variety of problems including Candida. Dr. Irestone at Health Resources Immunotherapy clinic. It could be a wait to get in but worth it in the end. He helped me with Lyme disease, Epstein bar, and I'll be seeing him next week for Covid long haul symptoms. I highly recommend him.

Thank you Connie--I will get B-12 today and start on it and I do understand about the antibiotics and what they do--SOOO I took one this am and now I'll be done... I would say that my overall condition has improved about 60-70% and I'll continue with what I have learned from here and I think I'm on the right road...thanks!

Dear Connie-

Interesting about the coconut oil--when I bought it I thought-WOW-this is a big jar--but if I can use it internally too--even better---so I just went and had about a tsp. of it--how much of it can I use per day and how exactly does that help?

I think the main thing for me is the inflammation on my face and calming that down-- because I'm still working-and my job is stressful-it is tough to cover and is very painful--almost like a shingles pain--itchy, red raised oval spots.

And- It would almost be easier for me to just NOT eat--rather than eating something that would be a problem. I made mashed potatoes( white and sweet) on Sunday with salmon and a big salad--thought I was doing well and then read that sweet potatoes are NOT good! What about tofu--for candida, leaky gut, inflammation diet?

I just found this site a week or two ago and have only made a few posts but reading lots and am adding what I can to my regime --how do you contact Ted and/or does HE read everyones and comment on where he thinks he can help?--because I would appreciate his input as well... Thanks so much! Sylviag

connie, for the dry skin, put EVC in small wide mouth jar, add raw shea butter, and/or calandula oil. Put hot water in your sink, (cover jar tightly) put in jar of mix and in about 10-20 min you will have a melted mixture that is great for moisturizing. Also, I have dry skin, I found to pump this up for 'longer' moisture, put it on at the end of your shower, BEFORE you dry off. Then just 'blot' or air dry (you can do this just w/ EVC as well). you also may want to read remedies on this site for low thyroid, the dry skin is a symptom of this, pay attention to the iodine info--the best for long term results.

Hello Connie--thanks for that recommendation--I am currently taking a b-complex but will be needing to buy more soon so will look into what you suggested. Purchased coconut oil today and have just applied it and think it feels wonderful--but does get "sucked" up quickly--my skin is red and very hot so put ice packs on to try to cool it down and it does look somewhat better. Also started on the baking soda--1/2 tsp. In 4 oz water 2x a day to see what that does. Headaches are subsiding and fingers/cuticles are clear which I hope means I'm gaining on this. Itchy, flaking ear canals are improving with a swab of ACV 2-3 times a day. I'm not sleeping well -2-3 hours at a time and would like some tips on this..?

Sylviag, I am not sleeping well at the moment either. Like you I only sleep a few hours at a time, still last night I slept a lot better! The first thing for me is that I have been under a lot of strain, which affects one's sleep hugely. I am also going through the menopause, not good either and it seems that Candida affects your sleep as well but I am taking care of that, I am going to start taking a supplement called Wormwood and am slowly adapting my diet to the Anti-Candida diet. Moreover I started taking a Magnesium B vitamins complex yesterday. It is known that Magnesium helps with insomnia. Reading for a bit or waching a bit of TV helps me go back to sleep. I intend to read a couple of book about sleep problems soon which I will review here! Sleep tight...

At night when you go to bed, If you lay on your back feet slightly apart, hands by your side. Then breath in deeply about ten times till you feel your hands pusating slightly. You then concentrate on various parts of the body. IE. Concentrate on your left foot, tell youself that the left foot is relaxing and stay there until it does... Then your right foot. Then your left knee then the right knee and so on.. By the time you have finished you can then suggest that after you count down from ten till one you will fall asleep and wake refreshed the next morning. Its a form of self hypnosis that takes you down to the hypnogogic state where you will just drift off to sleep. This form of sleep induction stops the high brain chatter, by focusing on parts of the body. The quality of the relaxation is really good. You know you're getting there when you start to feel light to the point of not having a body.

Sleep is the best doctor of all, and a good nights rest is essential.

Hello--Have just seen your post on getting a good nights sleep and found it intriguing... I don't fully understand how to use this site and missed your post--will try it tonight...thanks!

Hello. While killing parasites and candida, a great help for sleep is L-Ornithine. Ornithine will remove the ammonia from your brain produced by the kill-off of parasites and help you sleep. A couple 500mg capsules usually will do the trick. If not, take one extra.

Epsom salt baths, progesterone creme, a half teaspoon of liquid Benadril in a pinch (but must be the brand name. The knock offs have something that wires you.) If you wake up at 2 or 3, half a glass of milk with a half of banana. Also some cardio that makes you actually sweat helps with sleep. Must be at least 3 hours before bed. I like to workout in the morning. Good Luck!

Hi Sadie... The best thing you can do for your young son is to watch his diet -- absolutely no sugar, no fatty foods or junk foods, no sweets, no wheat and keep dairy to a minimum. The whole protocol(for adults) and anti-candida diet guidelines are shown at this link and the diet should be strictly followed.

Also the following protocol will help to kill off the candida:

* Vitamin C (Ascorbate powder form). Give him 500 mgs(1/8 tsp) three times a day together in water with 4 drops of SSKI (Saturated Solution of Potassium Iodide) at mealtimes. You can add this all together as a fresh drink for him. You can also use Nascent Iodine instead of SSKI if you prefer.

* Pau D'Arco capsules. This will also help to kill the candida. Take the recommended child dose on the bottle.

* Add 5 drops of Magnesium Oil to a glass of water for him to drink every day. This will help his leaky gut problem.

*Take boron tablets bought from a health store and take the recommended child dosage. Boron or borax is a wonderful fungal killer.

* Buy some sodium bicarbonate tablets from the chemist and give him one tablet(500 mgs approx) three times a day outside mealtimes with water. This will help to alkalize his intestines and body and will also help to kill off the candida.

* Taking a half tspn to one teaspoon of castor oil mixed 50/50 with coconut oil every day will also help to kill off the candida in his gut.

* Your son should also take a full range of vitamins and mineral nutrients every day to help raise his own immune system back to a healthy state again.

* Use an Iodine-based mouthwash like Betadine to get rid of any candida in the mouth.

There is also likely to be a die-off period when you suddenly kill such a large amount of candida and this tends to accentuate the candida symptoms for a while and is completely normal. But if the die-off becomes too severe you may have to reduce and/or vary the dosages for your son.

Before what to give, you should consider what to stop.

* Stop using microwave for heating foods. If you eat foods heated with microwave it is like eating tiny atomic bombs.
* No MSG, Dye, colors, preservatives.
* To rejuvenate the intestine drink green juices: Wheat Grass Juice, Cabbage Juice, Carrot Juice (Excellent Healer for intestine).
* Red Miso Soup - Provides amino acids to rebuild the intestine.
* Vitamin C Supplements starting from 1gm/day - 2 gm/day.
* Vitamin B-complex
* Bone Broth.

The aboves will slowly rejuvenate the intestines. There are thousands of remedies. Judge the best for the body.

Good Health.

Thank you so much

We cut out all processed foods months ago and have been dairy, soya, egg, corn, sugar, fruit, nightshade free as well. His diet is very restricted because the leaky gut has caused so many allergies. I started bone broth two weeks ago and will slowly start the rest. We are also wheat, cereal grain free also. Bill I have faith your protocol will work. Will curing the leaky gut resolve the allergy issues?

Can I give magnesium baths to him or do I wait and start the recovery protocol recommended by bill

Thank you so much to you both

Thank you for your previous advice, Bill, for my son. Which vitamins and minerals should I place him on in addition to your previous recommendations. He is on bone broth and I have started vitamin c and will start lugols, sodium bicarbonate soon and the magnesium. I am waiting for the boron and pau Darco. I am just a little anxious as naturopath said no die off as its leaky gut but having read everything here there must be something in his intestine.

I have not been able to find boron tablets with a child dose, is there anything else I can use for my son instead? I am worried my eighteen month old may have candida issue, he is still breastfed as was my eldest and I have started the anti candida diet but am wary of trying too many remedies as I am still breastfeeding. Is it safe for me to? I will start slow and use some of the remedies as a starting point. Is it ok to build up slowly or do I need to use all at once?

Thank you in advance and sorry for all my questions. I have nowhere else to turn.

Hi Sadie... Regarding child dosages -- if you are unsure then this is the way to calculate them.

My calculations are based on an average adult weight of 150 lbs. Say your child weighs 30 lbs. So, for example, to calculate a safe dose of nutrient for a 250 mg adult dose of magnesium gluconate for a child, here is the calculation:

30/150 X 250 (adult dose) = 50 mgs (child dose)

Regarding your worries over borax, the adult dose recommended on this site is between 500mgs(1/8 tspn) and 1000 mgs(1/4 tspn) per day in water. The boron capsules that you have bought from the health store will only have a per pill boron or borax content of between 3 mgs and 6 mgs -- so there's one heck of a difference between them. Add to this that the MSDS toxicity of boron is very nearly the same toxicity as for ordinary table salt and so I don't think you have much to worry about.

I also think that your health fears on breast feeding baby are unfounded. It makes complete sense to take nutrients while breast feeding your child - these nutrients are bound to make your baby healthier. Another essential aspect of breast feeding your own child is that the mother helps to protect the child by transferring elements of her own immune system via the milk into the child. This fact helps to train the baby's immune system and thereby protect the baby against illness. As well, I regard proper amounts of iodine in mother's milk absolutely essential for the baby's protection. This transfer of iodine from the mother to the child via breast milk is alsoknown, from research, to help proper brain development in the child. Research has also discovered that higher amounts of iodine in mother's milk has a direct and positive relationship with the eventual intelligence outcome of the child when it reaches adulthood.

For leaky gut - I would give your son glutamine (amino acid), fulvic/humic acid(aka shilajit) and aloe vera oil. I actually prefer using the fresh gel from the actual leaf of aloe vera but this can be difficult to get. This is a fairly strong protocol that should help to heal your son's intestines. The rest of the candida protocol that I have given you should work to stop the pathogens causing the leaky gut problem in the first place.

The nutrients (adult dosages) that I advise are shown here (from my anti-candida protocol):

Additional Support with Vitamin and Mineral Supplements (Optional)
* Vitamin C - Taken in the more alkaline form of Sodium Ascorbate -- at least 1000 mgs three times a day. Vit C is an anti-oxidant and also chelates heavy metals from the body as well.

* Magnesium -- Taken as Mag Chloride, Mag Citrate or Mag Gluconate. Dosage: 250 mgs twice a day. Magnesium Oil (40% water 60% magnesium chloride) cab also be used transdermally. Magnesium is involved in over 300 major enzyme and coenzyme body processes and also gets rid of any staph or strep bacteria quite well. Magnesium Chloride is the best form of magnesium to take in my opinion. See this link: http://curezone.com/art/...D=49&db=5&C0=74

* Take at least 2 tablespoons of Virgin Coconut Oil(VCO) per day with meals to help constipation and intestinal issues. VCO contains mainly medium chain saturated acids, very protective for the intestines, liver and blood. Contains lauric acid, caproic acid, capric acid, caprylic acid and myristic acid -- these act as anti-microbials helping to destroy the candida as well as protecting the intestines from any further external microbial invasion. I don't use vegetable oils anymore, I cook only with VCO now.

* Zinc gluconate or zinc acetate - Helps to support the immune system. 25mgs - 50mgs taken for one week, then take this dose once a week thereafter.

* Natural Sea Salt or Fulvic/Humic Acid. Both of these will act in the same way as absorption synergists as well as helping to create a healthy intestine and help to supply other important and much needed micro-minerals to your body. See these links:
https://www.earthclinic.com/remedies/sea_salt.html
https://www.earthclinic.com/supplements/fulvic_acid.html

* Selenium - 200 mcg twice a day at mealtimes. Selenium helps remove mercury and supports the liver and thyroid. There is no need to take this dose if you are also already taking the recommended liver support(which includes selenium).

* Vitamin B3 - as niacin or niacinamide. Dosage: 500 mgs twice a day. Be aware of the "niacin flush" effect if you take the niacin form. Niacin is anti-candida and supports the liver, digestion and is relaxing for the body.

* Take B50 Complex three times a week - this is beneficial for digestion and will also help fight candida. It also acts synergistically when higher dose B3 is also supplemented.

Thank You so much Bill, I have a lot to learn but am willing. I was just worried about potential detox symptoms whilst breastfeeding but I have started the remedies slowly as I dont want my second child to suffer as my first. It seems as if my eldest's leaky gut developed after a bout of gasteroenteritis - his only bout. Despite my best efforts genetics also has a role to play but I am confident with your protocol he will recover.

I am having trouble finding the fulvic/humic acid - the health store hadn't even heard of it! I will do my best to try and track it down. I have the glutamine powder and will convert to child dose.

Thank you for your help and God bless you.

Sorry to bother you again Bill, but I just want to double check the dosage for the Iodine - I have started him off slowly and we are at two drops a day (split dose). Is it 4 drops per vitamin c ascorbate solution a day (overall 12 for the day) that we need to work up to as this seems a lot.

He has come out with a cough and slight rash (I am starting all dosages slow and waiting to introduce other remedies eg pau d arco a little later). Is the cough likely detox?

Thank you.

Hi Sadie... Just to be clear -- use no more than 4 drops of lugols iodine per day as four separate one drop doses with vitamin c. You could perhaps give your son up to 6 drops of LI but no more than that per day.

Kids are always catching colds etc -- I don't think this is caused by anything in the remedies advised. But because of the candida -- his immune system will be low. The rash might be due to bromine detox caused by taking the LI -- which detoxes bromide from cells and puts it into the blood. So if the liver is too stressed and cant handle excreting the bromine then the skin tries to excrete it and thats what can cause the rash.

The solution to the rash problems involves taking sea salt every day which helps to get rid of the bromine quickly.

See these links:

Bromide Dominance in the Body

Bromine Detox -- Symptoms and Strategies

Thank you, Bill. We have done just over a week of your protocol but have been on the anti-candida diet for months. In the first week he developed a rash a temperature and huge amounts of mucous which he is struggling to expel. I had to use a liquid fulvic/humic supplement recommended on this site in the end. It's too early to say as his is a bad case but am hopeful as it will take time.

I am wondering should he be put on digestive enzymes and betaine as I am retreading all your previous posts or can I just stick to your recommended protocol for him. It's a challenge to get everything in him but I don't want to miss anything so double checking. I am hoping to start probiotics next week as his good bacteria levels came back very low Thank you again.

Hi Sadie... I usually recommend the betaine, protease enzymes, sea salt and sodium bicarbonate remedy for people who either have GERD issues or for people who are losing weight too rapidly(insufficient digestion and insufficient nutrient absorption in the intestines.).

There are two main ways that infections can arise in the intestines -- either after a physical trauma like gastroenteritis(like your son had) -- and if your doctor also gave your son antibiotics for gastroenteritis then this will further act to kill all the beneficial bacteria in his gut and would also encourage the upward spread of both candida and other pathogens from his lower intestines. Use of anti-biotics is still the major cause of dysbiosis and the main cause of problems like candida and leaky gut syndrome.

The other way that intestinal infections occur is if the stomach acid is to weak. Bacteria and other pathogens then have free reign to pass into the upper intestines with the food without being first destroyed by the strong stomach acid. This outcome will also encourage the spread of candida and other pathogens in the intestines and throughout the body.

I see no reason why your son should not use the betaine/protease enzyme protocol -- this protocol will act to improve his digestion as well as act to kill all pathogens incoming with his food. This protocol will also stop the spread of candida and other pathogens into the stomach and esophageal regions.

If you still have trouble curing your sons leaky gut and candida then there may be several reasons for this. Candida, as well as other pathogens, can hide and can protect themselves from immune system or nutrient attack by hiding in biofilms in the mucus lining of the gut. The other reason is that mycoplasma -- a fungal-like bacteria -- can also be involved with leaky gut problems. Mycoplasma are hard to kill. Borax is a strong anti-fungal that also kills mycoplasma. Borax also has surfactant properties that disrupts biofilms which helps to more fully expose pathogens in the gut. So you should perhaps reconsider using borax if this is the case. Borax is the ultimate anti-fungal.

Hi Bill, My question is on Borax, when it is recommended 1/4 teaspoon for men and 1/8 teaspoon for women with 1/4 teaspoon of sea salt in one litre of water to be consumed during the day for candida. Borax being highly alkaline, is it correct to be advised that this water be drank two hrs. before the meal and one hour after the meal or outside the meal time? I expect your advice soon. Thanks

Baldev

Thank you, Bill. I will think about the borax-child dose being 100mg a day in water.

Lab results revealed high level of the e choli and klebsiella and low levels good bacteria. The rest was clear so am not sure. I will have to consider the borax if no improvement, just too much for him to take all vitamins etc at the moment. There is family history of low b12 levels and he has just developed slight dark circles under eyes so am bit worried. My doctors are not much help as physically and emotionally he presents very well and not atypical leaky gut candidate.

Thank you.

Once the gut infection is cured, vitamin B12 production will be normalized. I am following your thread. Good Health

Hi Baldev... Yes, you should really take borax water, as you say, outside mealtimes because of its alkalinity -- I always take it this way. The borax water dosage is used to kill fungus and helps arthritis.

You can also combine and mix in smaller amounts of borax into Ted's sodium bicarb and water or lemon/lime and SB alkalizing remedies and take the borax like that.

Another way to take borax is illustrated by the research of Dr Rex Newham, an Australian researcher, who discovered that borax, when taken in 60 mg dose every day, cured his own severe arthritis in only a few months -- because arthritis is usually associated with mycoplasma infection and, as you probably know, borax kills mycoplasma.

Walter Last also has much praise for Borax:

The Borax Conspiracy

Unfortunately, health shops still sell boron (same as borax) in only 3 mgs to 6 mgs per pill dosages according to the standard RDA. Such a low dosage won't kill much fungus and will have a very slow beneficial effect -- if any -- on arthritis.

Thank you Bill and Ed. I have been reading as much as I can about borax and have ordered some in powder form. I have read the info from bill via the link he provided but bit confused. For my son do I make the concentrated solution of one teaspoon per Litre of water and then use 1/8th teaspoon of this concentrate in 100ml of water for my son to drink once a day outside meal times? Help please. After what I have read I want to try this especially as he is struggling to get rid of excess mucous which I think Isis body detoxing. On a plus side the dark circles that suddenly appeared are nearly gone soi think something is working - I hope it is!

Onanother note I want to make yoghurt to add his probiotic - can anyone recommend a good one in powder form that is dairy free as its coconut milk yoghurt I want to make

Thank you all your help.

I have ordered the Borax and found an old post from ted regarding dosages. Am a bit nervous as dont want him to experience bad die off. I tried low dose probiotic with homemade coconut milk yoghurt which early days seems to be helping. I was debating between using a high dose probiotic or trying Kefir - I will attempt to make this at home!

Any advice appreciated. I know its going to be a long journey and I wont be giving up but would appreciate any advice

Just thought would give an update in case it's helpful to anyone else.

My son has been on Bill's protocol for a month now. The only omissions were pau d'arco -I did start him on them but it was too much with evrything else. The other omission was borax though he has had some doses I haven't been consistent again due to too many remedies. I will however be using this remedy in due course

Other things I did was homemade coconut milk for many months, cooked from scratch, bone broths, lots of fresh garlic, tumeric, ginger and onions in all his foods. More recently I added in homemade kefir (thank you for those who posted on EC about Kefir). There have been changes already. I think because we had been on the anti candida diet for months prior to the protocol it was easier although we still have a long way to go. Improvements with itchy scalp - he used to scratch his scalp every night in his sleep though there was nothing I could see, he used to have bad stomach cramps and skin breakouts on cheeks. Now there is hardly any scratching, he is sleeping so much better, his skin is improving. The biggest change came with the addition of kefir -coconut milk home made kefir. Within days of this addition the improvements came. He is tolerating more foods and we are making progress.

I want to thank Bill and everyone else who posts as much advice from EC helped me. We still have a long way to go but we are moving in the right direction.

Bill, I have read your latest posts on humic/fulvic acid. I am using a liquid supplement with my son currently but want to try the powder form once that runs out. Is better to just purchase the humic acid and not a blend of humic and fulvic since you advise it's the humic acid that's of most use for the body. Also I order to remove any possible metals in the powder is it enough to use just the iodine as I do not have sodium thiosulphate and do not want to purchase unless really needed.

Lastly, you have helped me immensely in helping to heal my son's gut, I just wanted to check in terms of dosages can he remain on the vit c, iodine, magnesium, b vits and selenium etc etc once he is healed or should I reduce frequency once he is well. I give him two days off as recommended currently.

Thank you again

Does anyone know of a remedy for salicylate allergy, I am treating my son's leaky gut but he is still reacting to foods containing high levels of these. Thank you.

There is no supplement cure, look into NAET?

Hi Sadie... I don't think it matters what form of humic/fulvic acid you use. If you have bought just the organic fulvic acid liquid that's fine. I just object to paying ridiculous amounts of money for chemically standardized fulvic acid solutions. I don't like any form of chemical standardization(think Codex Alimentarius) and prefer to use the humic acid that comes directly from the Earth(I buy the garden form). By adding a little ordinary vinegar (2 tsps) to the HA/FA solution, the humic acid precipitates out(solution should be golden brown). It's the fulvic acid you want. Then I just add my daily dose of lugols iodine to it -- so the iodine will remove any fluorine, bromine, lead, mercury, cadmium, aluminium or arsenic from the fulvic solution and you can then drink it. But that's just the way I mainly do it.

I would completely agree with keeping your son on vit c, iodine, magnesium, b vits and selenium etc as maintenance. I know it can be bewildering what to supplement him with. Here are some further ideas for you which might help.

* I normaly take 4 dessicated liver tablets at mealtimes. Liver is hugely nutritious for the body -- every bit as nutritious as spirulina at a tenth the price. It contains all the amino acid proteins, Vitamins A, B, C, D, E & K (the liver stores lots of vitamins) and also has prime antioxidants enzymes like Glutathione, SOD, CoCQ10, Coenzyme A etc. You can buy dessicated liver at any health shop or weight training shop. They are big tablets -- so I just chew them to powder(a bit meaty!! ) and swish them down with water. I wouldn't start your son on dessicated liver tabs though until after he is cured of candida (liver is meat).

* Consider getting a hair analysis done on your son's hair(not expensive). Then you will know exactly what minerals he is lacking in his diet and you can adjust his supplements or diet accordingly. The hair analysis will also reveal what heavy metals and other poisons he may still have in excess in his body and if there is a problem then you will more adequately be able to focus on detox remedies that will get rid of any particular excess heavy metal or excess halide problem etc.

Thank you Bill. I will switch to the natural form of the fulvic/humic acid once current supply finishes. I will look into getting a mineral analysis done. It's hard one as his stool sample was clear for Candida albicans but he clearly had a leaky gut. There have definitely been improvements but it will be a few months before I feel confident that recovery is on the way as it will take a few years to heal the damage I have been advised. Ism just happy with every step forward we take.

The liver tablets may be tricky but I was considering looking into organ organic meats as an interim measure. It's very hard trying to fit everything in and go about daily lliving thank you again

In my experience with this problem, which my son had for the first three years of his life, the only thing to do is stay off those foods. There are plenty of lists online showing foods that are very high, high, moderate etc. My son could only eat the things that are very low. Believe me it was painful for both of us as I was breast feeding so had to do it too. You are not doing him any favors letting him eat those things if his body is reacting, he will be much happier off them. Hope this helps, probably not what you want to hear but unfortunately it's the only solution - believe me I spent a LOT of time online trying to overcome it. The one thing that helped in his case as he had severe reflux too was 1/4 teaspoon baking soda in a little water every night before bed. He has since thankfully grown out of both issues.

Thank you Pip. He has been on low sals but I tried a higher sal veg and he reacted so am keeping him off them as there are alternatives as you said. Has your son been able to tolerate. It is tough as I am still breast feeding my second whose nearly two and am on a very restricted diet and it is hard.

Bill, sorry to bother you again but my son has developed a runny nose for the last week. Could this be due to too much iodine? I am going to try the iodine painting but just wondering could his iodine levels be up to sufficient already after six or so weeks - I have been supplementing as recommended without fail. Thank you.

Hi Sadie... Lugol's Iodine, in excess, can certainly cause a runny nose. But there are many other factors that can also cause a runny nose as well. So, by all means reduce the LI dose for your son if you think that excess LI is the culprit. But if you stop giving him LI then you are removing one of the most important regimens from his protocol because LI kills such a wide spectrum of bacteria, viruses, fungus and molds very quickly. There is nothing else in your son's protocols that is as useful as LI for removing pathogens. Borax kills fungus but will not kill the the bacteria involved with Leaky Gut. As proof of this, here is a table that shows Contact to Kill Time statistics for just bacteria, fungus and mold for Povidone Iodine. Lugols Iodine has exactly the same pathogen kill properties as Povidone Iodine(but you can't supplement Povidone Iodine internally). Please have a look at the table at the bottom of this web article, within the research citations -- this table clearly demonstrates the outright effectiveness of LI versus a very wide range of pathogens:

Bring Back the Universal Nutrient Medicine

Also, I must also add here that there is nothing within modern medicine's vast drug arsenal that compares or even comes close to the efficacy(and safety) of lugol's iodine in terms of broad spectrum kill and speed of kill against pathogens. What's more, LI kills so fast that pathogens simply cannot "adjust" to LI -- because they simply don't have enough time.

As regards how long you should supplement lugols iodine before normal and healthy iodine levels in the whole body(not just the thyroid) are attained, here is a comment from Dr Schactner, who frequently uses LI iodine supplementation in his medical practice:

"...it takes about 3 months to become iodine sufficient while ingesting a dosage of 50 mg of iodine[8 drops of 5% LI per day] and a year to become iodine sufficient while ingesting a dosage of 12. 5 mg of iodine[2 drops of 5% LI per day] daily."

Source:http://drsircus.com/medicine/iodine/iodine-dosages

So, in terms of becoming iodine sufficient in the body, you have your answer -- the higher the dose, the quicker you become iodine sufficient. And it isn't as quick as you think -- especially if your are taking only a low daily dose.

It also helps if people would stop thinking of Iodine as only ever necessary for the thyroid. Iodine is also necessary and essential for proper immune system functioning, for proper bone development and brain development in the young, and is also the governor of all the other hormones of the body -- because every single cell and every single hormone receptor in the body(and I'm not just talking about thyroid receptors here) needs iodine. Iodine is found in every mucus gland in the body which represents the first line of defense versus extraneous and incoming pathogens to the body. All this has nothing to do with the thyroid gland. That's why the body needs 100 times more daily iodine than the thyroid. For me the current recommended RDA of 150 - 200 micrograms of iodine per day hardly even comes anywhere close to fulfilling the realistic per diem maintenance needs of the whole human body with iodine.

Thank You Bill for your detailed response. I have not stopped the iodine and was going to continue as everything I have read previously on this site outlines its importance just as that article you referred me to. I think I was just worried about overdosing him on it. he is on the top dose recommended (6 drops) so I was wondering if his levels may be up quicker.

His skin is breaking out periodically which is probably the detox and I have been increasing his vitamin doses slowly - we are at the max for his age for everything except the B3 which I have been increasing slowly - he is nearly up to maximum. He is on a B complex as well as water and coconut milk kefir so I have hoping he is getting enough B 12 from all of those to aid his stomach acid since his secretory IgA was so low so I know I need to be patient (just hate him suffering though we have made a lot of progress). I am anxious about minimising the stress on his liver as there is significant history of liver cancer on my husbands side - many bereavements within the family at young age.

Thank you again.

I am reporting to see if anyone can help. I am following Bill's protocol to heal my sons leaky gut. We are slowly making headway but he is still has major problems with phenols/salicylate a etc. he is on mag chloride but I read that issues with phenols can be linked to low levels of sulphate and can be resolved through use of Epsom salts.

My question is does anyone have any thoughts/advice and are the Epsom salts different to the mag chloride he is already on. Please help.

Yes, Sadie, Magnesium Chloride doesn't have sulfur, whereas Epsom Salts are Magnesium Sulfite, which has sulfur.

Hi Sadie... If your son has salicylate sensitivity then dont use the Aloe vera or the Chanca piedra as they both contain salicylates.

Cat's Claw or Una de Gato is a highly useful amazon rainforest herb for the intestines which is very useful for healing leaky gut and other intestinal problems. Cat's Claw does not contain salicylates. Here is some Cat's Claw research. You should be able to buy the tea form or the powder capsule form of Cat's Claw in UK quite easily.

You can use the Epsom salts either in a bath or as a supplement but I would continue using the magnesium chloride because of its more widespread beneficial properties on the body.

Acetyl L-Cysteine, Alpha Lipoic Acid(ALA) and supplements like Glutathione also contain sulfur and are worth trying. Supplementing ALA, Acetyl cysteine and selenium also promotes the formation of glutathione and glutathione peroxidase in the the body. The Liver Support Protocol that I recommend in the anti-candida protocol uses these supplements anyway. Foods like garlic and onions also contain high amounts of sulfur as well.

Thank you, Bill. I stopped the aloe after using twice as he reacted violently and I realised it was the salicylate. I will continue. With the mag chloride but will do the peso salt baths. He is on selenium already and the other vits recommended. I will get the others you recommended. He is improving but we are not getting further along re the salicylate and his diet is very restricted and I need to work to change this so will try whatever it takes.

Thank you again

Bill I tried cats claw and ala and he had severe reaction to the ala, assuming the salicylate. His eyes swelled up and behaviour was terrible so he is super sensitive to ALA

An update in case it helps others

nearly three months on Bill's protocol and huge improvements (I have done nearly everything recommended except for a few items either due to allergies/iintolerances. I recently added Epsom salts and I think it was the missing piece as my son is tolerating many more foods, sleep is hugely improved and although he was very bright anyway he is flying now. I cannot believe the change and its quick in comparison to the years of misery he endured. We have still a long way to go but I owe huge debt to Bill and others who gave me advice as well as other posters whose information was invaluable to me.

Question for Bill or anyone else:

I had the hair analysis done and its clear except it indicates my son is low in caratenoids which is not a surprise given his issues with salicylates. He is improving and tolerance levels are better but I wondered of anyone had any suggestions in light of his results or is it a question of patience. Thank you.

Hi. Hope your son is better soon! I have proctitis. I had a hair analysis with analytical research labs and the results were way off but I felt they didn't test enough? I don't know? What company did you use? Thanks! Please let's share info; we may be able to help each other.

I used bionetics online. As I am supplementing with quite high doses am not worried about test coming back clear as initially I had detailed stool and saliva test which confirmed the leaky gut, thanks to Bill improvements in three months have been huge. Question of time but hard waiting for healing but better than not at all.

Update

Bill, many thanks to you and everyone else who advised but you in particular. We have followed your protocol over a year and continue to do so with dosages reduced. I am delighted to say in addition to your protocol, a rotation diet and raw milk. My son has improved greatly and continues to make strides so there is hope but you have to be determined and single minded as it is hard but there is no greater reward than a healthy child. Once again thank you

Sadie,

Not sure if you're still on this thread but please look into Histamine Intolerance for your son. I was horribly ill as a youngster and I searched for years to figure out my health; Histamine Intolerance was a huge component and your son's health sounds all too familiar. Hope that is helpful!

Best Wishes to all of you.

Be careful with the bone broth if making it with chicken, which is very high in fluoride .... bad for leaky gut, thyroid and numerous other things.

Hi Brad

Just one month ago I went to a chiropractor that is also a kinesologist. He did muscle testing on me and told me what foods I was allergic to, then fixed the allergy! He also gave me some pills that I take 3 times a day. I am supposed to stay away from sugar. That's the hard part. However I am much better, after 4 days I was feeling better. So try to find a Dr like him and you'll be helped!

Dear Brad,

The herbs Slippery Elm and Comfrey are both healing to the digestive tract. They can be added to smoothies, taken in capsules or made into a tea. They are two of my favourite herbs.

Kefir, water or milk, is also a healing and nutritious thing to use. Not sure if those are compatible with Paleo.

~Mama to Many~

Brad, from everything I have read lean meat is never a good idea. Fat phobia comes from governmental indoctrination and even them are changing their old mantra. If you are interested in the subject you might like to read Barry Grove's Trick and Treat or else Fat and Cholesterol are good for you. Two excellent books with loads of information!

Hello Connie--not sure if I'm feeling anything from the B-12 and have been putting under the tongue as you suggested-because I have had alot of open skin this time--I'm concerned about picking up an infection of some sort--so have been trying to be careful in that way. The reason I asked about the dosage-am wondering if I could do more--?

I love making soup and will do that--hopefully the weather stays cooler now--altho in sunny Southern CA--we can have hot weather in Oct.. I only have been in CA for 12 yrs--originally from NY-accustomed to lots of snow- so I always have wondered if "it" is worse here because of no frost and different stuff in the air. What do you think about lentils--I have been avoiding any tomato type soups (and spagetti sauce) but I'd love to make a lentil or barley with chicken stock. Thanks for your help! Sylvia

Hello--wanted to post an update on my problem (per derm, candida and leaky gut) and detail where I'm at.... Decided to try a 7 day nutritional cleanse as I'm not that good at putting together all of the right stuff. It was 4 days of a cleanse/intestinal rejuvinator) and then 3 days of a detox and I think it really has helped--while I was doing it I continued to use my vits and probiotics and I would say it is about 80% under control. I was still using the ACV topically as well as in my ears for the flaking but did not do lime/baking soda or ACV internally.

I finished the cleanse on Saturday and started on a anti-inflamatory diet and a liquid candida product on Sunday that you take 1 capful in the am and another in the pm--and I have also gone back on 3 tbls. of ACV in 12 oz that I drink thru the day and also the lime/baking soda am and pm.

I want to add something else but don't know which to try-iodine or borax? My Np is aware of the iodine use and said it is important to add magnesium citrate-I am taking a bath in Epsom salts every day--but am unclear if that is sufficient? My TSH, 3rd generation is 2. 31--and she said that was high? I'm glad for my progress and understand it can be months--I'm determined to get RDI of this--this time and not having to work has allowed me time to put ice on and a cream which calms it down. Oh, also still using coconut oil internally and externally and bought calendula oil. Thanks for all of you input--I really appreciate it!

Hello Connie--I actually do eat very sensibly-- have been juicing the past yr or two--where I'd put all kinds of fruits and vegs in the Vitamix with yogurt and protein powder and have that for breakfast and lunch-and then have a regular dinner. So maybe I was getting too much sugar right there--while I thought I was being Oh-SO healthy and not stopping for a burger and fries! I will have to work on the % of veg to protein---what do you think of healthy choice fudgecicles--that was my guilty pleasure every night--I've given them up now! We used to enjoy some wine every night and cosmos on the weekend--I knew the wine was causing a problem--and haven't had any alcohol for 8 weeks which I think bothers my husband more than me-its a social thing.

Don't know if you have read all of my posts but I had started on oracea (40 mgs-in the cycline family)--I still have one more week of the month that I had filled and I'm worried that this is causing me not to be able to heal the leaky gut this time--so maybe I should not take the last week of it while I'm taking bio-K (liquid probiotics-50 billion)and all of the ACV, lemon juice and coconut oil and aloe vera caps--am I making sense? I've never taken meds for this before so just thinking that maybe I should stop them.

Sylvia

Sylvia, be careful with the sugar in the fruit juices. I have stopped taking them!

Thanks--I think you are right--I'm going to stick with a banana and blueberries in my yogurt--unless somebody thinks that I should do no dairy- but I think I'm ok with a little yogurt, cottage cheese?

I have never read anything regarding antihistamines and whether or not to use them?

Well it has been pretty much of a roller coaster since my last post! I finally got the B-12 sublingual tabs in yesterday so will see what they do for me, Connie. I order thru puritan pride and they were backordered when I got my b-complex ordered. So you think start out with 1000 mcg/day for 6 months?

I actually think I may have had a backlash from the oracea which I tried for 3 weeks and I am doing ACV, coconut oil and also the lime/bs in 4 oz of water twice a day. No open sores but still lots of red, dry flaky. shiny tight skin (think- looks like a gottee! ).

I also tried hydrogen peroxide last night for the first time and that did seem very soothing. I have used H2O2 for yrs but never for this and I'm also thinking about ingesting it if I don't get a better handle on this--I don't think I have ever had as severe or prolonged flare as this episode. Food "diet" is going well---just don't eat anything that "might" be a trigger.

Also started back on the glutamine -a very knowledgeable guy from Henry's suggested that be the last thing you take at night so it lays in your intestines.... hope he is right! There almost are not enough waking hours of the day for me to DO all of this stuff---and work too! I am feeling better-just in case my cheerier mood isn't showing?!

Anyway--I'm fighting the good fight and thank you all so much for your input--I'm praying that this too shall soon pass....thanks!

Sylvia

Well--as some have posted before--yesterday was pretty good--last night actually--and then woke up at 4 am with my chin on "FIRE"--all swollen and red-itchy and painful at the same time. Had to do a catered lunch yesterday at noon --so ate a small portion of beans/rice and chicken --and a few tortilla chips--no salsa or burrito-- dinner was a piece of stew beef (no gravy), a few carrots and some brown rice which seems to not bother me. Snack was plain and flavored yogurt-ralphs brand. I did find out my husband had put a few bouillon cubes in the very large casserole dish and they contain MSG--so it might be the culprit cause it certainly saturates the meat? Or the mexican meal?

I am really just about at my wits end--I put ice packs on and finally went back to sleep for about 1 1/2 hrs and it is still on fire--trying everything I can think of--what about hydrogen peroxide ingested? And again--this is supposedly perioral derm--caused by possible leaky gut/candida overgrowth.. Thanks for you help anyone, please!

Hi, I have been suffering from Perioral Dermatitis since I was fifteen. Many doctor visits with failed diagnoses. Many medications and lotions which provided minor help and when gone it came back being worse. It burned, itched and it looked like a diaper rash in the face. I had it from ear to ear, under my nose down to my chin.

I finally went to a different doctor. She diagnosed it and gave me a specific kind of antibiotics to take for three months. I had to stay out of sunlight which is hard here in Texas but I was willing to try anything. After about a month I started seeing a difference. After two months it was gone. I continued the antibiotics until finished as prescibed. My doctor also advised me to stay away from anything with fragrance. Perfume, soap, shower gel, make-up, lotion, anything with fragrance. It came down to a complete turnaround of my hygiene products.

I am now 34 years old and find myself having it under control. Its been three years since the three month treatment of antibiotics and I have only used plain water to wash my face, spray body spray on my clothes once pulled over my head (I don't let the spray touch my skin at all), and only use pure mineral make-up. At times I get small patches on the side of my nose or under my chin and notice that they come in times of stress or if I eat certain foods. Almost twenty years of misery and all it took was the right doc. What mine told me worked. I hope this helps. :) Just know your not alone.

Dear Jess,

Thank you so much for your post --it is a wonderful thing that so many people are willing to share their stories!

I too have taken antibiotics but this time I only took them for 3 weeks (oracea) out of the 3 month supply because I'm taking alot of probiotics and thought it might be defeating the purpose. Do you recall what you took--the allergist said that the oracea was the new kid on the block--

My rash is supposedly a manifestation of the leaky gut and probably candida too--so my Dr thinks--and she is pretty homeopathic in her practice so we talk about how these meds and steroid creams can help at first but then when you stop... Who knows?

At my age (62)--I think it just takes longer to heal than it used to and I'm under considerable stress from my job--so I'm trying to relax and work on me for a change. Thanks again and I hope yours "stays" gone!

Sylvia

Reread my recent post and wanted to add--what is confusing for me--since there is so much information--I really get confused as to what to try and the strength and what you have to take with it to compliment or make it work efficently. So--it is the hydrogen peroxide or, iodine or borax specifically that I'm thinking about adding but do not know how much or with what--thanks--just wanted to clarify that!

I appreciate the feedback--I know compared to some people's trouble this doesn't seem like a big deal but it has about destroyed my self esteem to have my face look and feel so bad.. many blessings to you all.

Sylviag, as for the healing of the leaky gut, I use DGL and Allantoin with favorable results.

Hello Timh, Thanks-I am not familiar with those two items but will research them and find out. I spend hours everyday reading old and new posts by TED and everyone else and when my eyes begin to glaze over--I know I've had enough information.

This morning I found an old post from Ted that suggested 1/4 tsp borax, 1 capful of (3%) hydrogen peroxide, 1/4 tsp sea salt in 1 liter of water--drink thru out the day---that I can do--when it starts getting too tech -or mag this, cal that--I start getting confused---thanks for your input--how long ago did you have candida and how did you know when you were RID of it---and the leaky gut?

Hello all--have been working very hard at healing and getting back to my old self. Had a question about iodine as I have wanted to add things as I go along and did purchase some decolorized iodine at my local market and think I maybe should have just order the lugol's from Amazon.

This is potassium oxide (225 mcg) and says to take two drops in 8 oz of water. Yesterday was my first day and I thought I felt terrific---also applying with a q-tip to area around mouth and chin that still have inflammation-- not pimples as some have described their perioral derm--not red raised anymore--just the whole area is red and smooth and still is flaking due to the heat--then using Vit E.

I'm doing the borax/sea salt/peroxide 5 days on -2 days off and also still doing Ted's alkalizing formula am and pm.

The question is --is one form of the iodine better than another--should I use this and then switch to the 2% or 5% lugol's?

I am striving for "progress" not "perfection" as someone once told me---but this time has been a real struggle.. thanks for anyone's thoughts in advance.

The compound that you have purchased is actually not iodine at all. It is potassium and oxygen. I don't know much about it but I believe it is a fertilizer of some sort. I would purchase lugol's from amazon if I were you. It has iodine and iodide in it. Our bodies need both forms for different organs and tissues. The form of iodine you will find in the medical section of your grocery store (betadine or iodine) should not be ingested as it has ingredients that are not meant to be ingested. This form of iodine has been used for wounds for many years but the FDA has "stabilizer's" put in it so that we do not consume it. You can apply it to your skin for transdermal absorption but it has alcohol in it and may cause some drying if you apply it to your face. I apply it to my thyroid when I have been forgetful with my iodorol (which is the pill form of lugol's). I prefer taking iodorol to lugol's for convenience reason's but I give my children the liquid form of lugol's and purchase it from amazon. You can take as many as 100 mg (some say as much as 200 mg)of lugol's/ iodorol per day if you want. I take 12.5 to 50 mg dailey. Here is a helpful website that shows some studies on dosage etc..

http://www.optimox.com/pics/Iodine/IOD-20/IOD_20.htm

If you take 12.5 mg per day you should reach iodine sufficiency within a year.

If you take 50 mg you should reach iodine sufficiency within 3 months.

If you take 100 mg you should reach iodine sufficiency in under 7 weeks..

At sufficiency you can then use a maintanance dose of 6.25 to 12.5 mg daily. Or you can continue taking large doses as your body excretes any unused iodine through your kidneys though it is possibly a waste of money to do so.

Just be forwarned that the more you take the more severe the detox of bromide and flouride may be in the beginning. I became fairly ill when taking 100 mg and ended up taking 50 mg along with Vit c (1500 mg) Magnesium (400 mg) and Selenium (400 mcg) to keep the detox symptoms at bay. You should always take these three along with iodine to keep from causing an imbalance in these three vital nutrients. Omega 3's should be taken with iodine as well if you do not consume enough fish and/or flax regularly.

Regarding my post from 11/02--I bought potassium IODIDE -not OXIDE- sorry--that brain fog is still present!

Today will be my third day to take 2 drops in 8 oz of water and was hoping to hear that this was OK--have also read many past posts to give your body a rest--maybe 4-5 days on and then 2 days off? This was regarding the alkalzing formula and also the hydrogen peroxide---is it always a good thing to give your body a day or two OFF--no matter what you are treating?

With the candida--I know I cannot let up on the dietary plan--but was wondering about the supplements?

Sylviag from Vista, Ca, oil of oregano is a systemic candida killer. take 1-2 caps a day for a month and no wheat/gluten, sugar, starches as they feed the candida.