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Natural Remedies for Liver Disease and Liver Damage

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Magnets, Herbs
Posted by Connie (Slc, Utah, USA) on 10/21/2012

Hi Timh; Please consider this: Stop the detox and chelation. It could be depleting vital nutrients.

Stop or minimize zinc supplementation. It could deplete copper too much and cause neuropathy from copper deficiency.

Discuss with Naturopath about getting B12 injections.

I'm concerned that the numbness could spread to your hands and organs. This happened to me, and I do not want it to happen to you.

Thanks Tim, I appreciate your consideration.

Magnets, Herbs
Posted by Timh (Louisville, Ky, Usa) on 10/22/2012 2042 posts

Wayseer: Thanx for the tip on Vit-C. I have been using the "pureway" trade-name C plus the Swanson Ultra C (w/ bioflavonoid) but nothing substantial and cannot tolerate more than 1 grm per dose; so given the severity of my condition it seems as if I would indeed greatly benefit from some Liposheric C (which I have not yet tried).


Magnets, Herbs
Posted by Timh (Louisville, Ky, Usa) on 10/22/2012 2042 posts

Connie: have you not rather used the sublingual method for B-12 ?? over "injections". My neuropathy hasn't "spread" for some 12 yrs now, so I don't expect this, but it could be possible. As for absorption, after taking only two doses of Nystatin my absorption and digestion seem greatly improved. As for Zinc, the ND recommended as very important, especially for immunity. I also take copper to maintain a balance. I always take EDTA at least 2 hrs away from other minerals. I guess it's all a method of using medicinal allies to one's own advantage. Without much for diagnostics one must be very sensitive as to how one "feels".


Magnets, Herbs
Posted by Ron (Lawrenceburg, Tn) on 11/03/2014

I would like to no more I have tingling in hands mouth and throat
Have been trying many things but can not get much relief
Thanks for any info


ALA, Selenium, Milk Thistle
Posted by Puneeth (Hyderabad, Ap/india) on 09/29/2012

Hi Bill, Thanks for you reply. Have some quick question regarding the dosage of Milk Thistle. is it 900mg per day or 900 X 2 per day?


ALA, Selenium, Milk Thistle
Posted by Reggie (Secunderabad, Andhra Pradesh, India) on 05/25/2013

Dear Oscar, Thank You for your reply. My wife has been diagnosed with liver cirrhosis grade II. She has never ever had alcohol in her life. Please let me know as to how does one get the BHT as recommended by you, in India. Is there a place that I can purchase this medicine from in India? Appreciate your reply. Regards, Reggie


ALA, Selenium, Milk Thistle
Posted by Reggie (Hyderabad, Andhra Pradesh India) on 05/31/2013

Dear Mr Baldev, Thank You So Much, Shall call and speak with you and also shall make arrangements for some one to collect it from you.

Dear Oscar, My wife was tested for Hepatitis B&C and it was negative. The doctors do not know as to what is the cause of the Cirrhosis. One Gastro doctor who we were consulting said that it could be due to fatty liver. I will surely join the group and keep you updated about the health of my wife. I will definitely like to use your recommendation as mentioned in your mail.

Thank You So Much
Reggie


ALA, Selenium, Milk Thistle
Posted by Reggie (Secunderabad, Andhra Pradesh India) on 06/02/2013

Dear Mike, Thank You so much for writing in. Shall surely use your input. Shall keep you and the team posted about her progress. Regards, Reggie


ALA, Selenium, Milk Thistle
Posted by Mike (Rocklin, Ca) on 10/06/2014

If you are still looking for BHT, you can get it off eBay, Amazon, or online in general. I mean let me know what's up.


ALA, Selenium, Milk Thistle
Posted by Jamie (San Diego) on 01/08/2016

hi my name is Jamie and my brother has A.L.L leukemia and after about 8 rounds of chemo he now has liver damage and kidney problems. I have been reading about the A.L.A milk thistle and selenium and would like to know if we can treat him with this combination will the fact that he has leukemia change anything and if I can give him this combination, what is the does please help .....as of yesterday the hospital he is in is saying there is nothing else they can do for him.

I am leaving to go to him tomorrow and I have gotten the selenium 200mcg the milk thistle in 1300 mg and the A.L.A in 600 mg please let me know asap thank you.


ALA, Selenium, Milk Thistle
Posted by Ruralady (Illinois) on 09/29/2024 69 posts

I know now what you're saying, you can also get those kits on Amazon BUT for every positive review there are more negative ones, esp when it comes to private lab testing...


Magnets, Herbs
Posted by Timh (Louisville, Ky, Usa) on 09/03/2012 2042 posts

Lisa, thank you very much for your concern and encouragement, which definitely plays a role in the healing process. I still feel the blockage in the Gallbladder and have begun juice fast as of now and will flush tomorrow night; if successful I will have a standing chance at winning the battle against heavy metals, parasites, and fungal infection.

Yes, for now it is a breakthrough; I actually feel like half a man standing w/ muscle and bones. I can actually feel the presence of STATURE which has been missing I don't know how many yrs.

As for Dr. Christopher, I suppose ALL his various formulas are beneficial. I think the Nature's Way Kidney/Bladder formula is his, and it does restore my kidney functions which are continuously compromised.

Thanks again and good health to you.


Magnets, Herbs
Posted by Lisa (Jax, Fl) on 09/03/2012

I am thrilled for you. And have been praying!


Magnets, Herbs
Posted by Art (Tustin, Ca. Usa) on 09/03/2012

Timh, I don't know if you have ever used or researched melatonin, as it is highly protective of the liver through multiple pathways, and like arginine and nac, has a very good safety profile, probably even better than nac or arginine. Melatonin is produced naturally by the human body, but that production diminishes with age. Melatonin receptors are now thought to exist throughout the body. Melatonin is also anti-inflammatory as well as a potent antioxidant and it also increases the natural antioxidants of the body, such as SOD and glutathione which are highly protective of the body as a whole.

Here is an article that gives a partial description of melatonin's potential as relates to liver protection:

http://www.wjgnet.com/1007-9327/full/v16/i48/6087.htm

There are many studies showing multiple health benefits from pharmacological dosing of melatonin in humans. From the studies I have read, melatonin appears to be safe even at very high dosing levels. I have taken as much as 70 mg per day for several months myself, but I have seen studies where as little as 10 mg per day has shown benefit in humans.

Melatonin is also protective of the brain and kidneys and shows potential to be helpful in multiple health issues.

Here is a study where melatonin was used on patients with NASH using a very low dose of only 10 mg per day total with positive results:

http://www.jpp.krakow.pl/journal/archive/12_10/pdf/705_12_10_article.pdf

I have seen other studies where it has shown itself to be helpful for NAFLD also. Just do appropriate searches and the benefits will become readilly apparent. There are hundreds of melatonin studies which should leave little doubt as to the potential health benefits and safety of melatonin.

Lastly, melatonin is relatively cheap.

I hope this information may be of some use to you!

Art


Magnets, Herbs
Posted by Timh (Louisville, Ky, Usa) on 09/04/2012 2042 posts

Art, thanx very much for the Melatonin info; and the links. Having first began loosing my health as far back as 1993-4 I started using Melatonin I think in 1996 w/ noticeable results. As a matter-of-fact, I was so ill in those times that I had lost sense of night/day and the seasons; and when I started the M those senses were immediately restored; I've been using 3-6mg daily ever since. A few yrs ago it was speculated that low dose M was sufficient for daily use, but now it seems the towel is in for higher doses especially in disease states. I have been considering upping my dose and now that you've informed me I certainly will.

Does 5HTP stimulate Melatonin release by the Pineal??? For a sleep aid, I have recently been using 5HTP as M doesn't seem to work as it once did in my case.

Thanx again as I am desperate for solutions to get out of these trenches, or pass on to a better life.


Magnets, Herbs
Posted by Timh (Louisville, Ky, Usa) on 09/04/2012 2042 posts

Rsw, thanks for the tip on LDN. I have familiarized myself w/ this drug here on E. C. and have considered it very possibly a canditate for resolution in my difficult case; as a matter of fact I told myself today that my next Dr visit would include mentioning this item. I am certain I have suffered from some type hepatitis as natural treatments bring temporary resolve; from this I suppose Chronic Active Autoimmune Hepatitis. Then there's the chronic infections that are severe to the point of disability. I currently take many different natural antibiotics and immune boosters as well as Thymus support all w/ negligible results. Have recently had fair results w/ Triple Mushroom Extract and am going to research those expensive Beta Glucan and Active Hexose Correlated Compounds among other specialty mushroom products. If anyone has had good results w/ these please respond w/ your story.

I have, in times past, had good results w/ 7-Keto DHEA for immune balancing but as of late EVERYTHING has gone down hill, but I still take at least Pregnenalone or regular DHEA.

For now, I must find a physician that will treat folks in my category of "Chronic Fatigue"; if not I will revert to the long distance rout that you suggest.

Thanx very much again as I am currently much in need. Hope you are well.


Magnets, Herbs
Posted by Timh (Louisville, Ky) on 09/04/2012 2042 posts

Art, thanx again as I am definitely suffering the inflammation and oxidation cycle. 2 yrs ago my cytokines were off the chart. My oxidative stress levels are so bad that I have Peripheral Neuropathy so bad that I require a can to walk. I cannot experience the sense of pleasure, a condition I think is labeled "a-hedonia"; same goes for peace & relaxation.

I do feel the benefit of the two 3mg dose I currently take, and so I am going to at least double that dose at your proposal. If I am not mistaken 5HTP does stimulate the Pineal Gland to release Melatonin; a searched this for someone here on E. C. some time back, but my mind is not 100% so I could be wrong.

Thanx again as I am in much need now. Hope you are well.


Magnets, Herbs
Posted by Susan (New York) on 09/05/2012

Bill, what is your opinion on B3 Niacin vs Niacinamide? I saw Ted's old post that he does not recommend Niacin.


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Posted by Art (Tustin, Ca. Usa) on 09/05/2012

Bill, I always enjoy reading your posts! Thanks for the link. I am a niacinamide/nicotinamide fan and user and your links really interested me, but I didn't see anywhere in the article where it talked about what type of dosage they thought it would take in actual human use to replicate their study results on the mice. I have been interested in and used niacinamide for awhile, but have always thought that it could do liver damage at higher dosing in the 4 to 5 gram per day range. I haven't been able to find a lot of good information on niacinamide toxicity in humans. Here is a link that discusses it briefly and it seems like they are suggesting that 3 grams per day may be the point where adverse reactions may start to occur. That would be very limiting if it is correct.

Art


Magnets, Herbs
Posted by Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 09/05/2012

Hi Susan... Both niacin and niacinamide are equivalent with some differing properties which I will mention. Both niacin and niacinamide are useful for the production of energy in the NADP(Niacinamide adenine dinucleotide phosophate) energy cycle but niacin occurs earlier in this process than niacinamide.

The main difference between niacin and niacinamide is that niacin causes a flushing effect and dilation of the peripheral capillaries in a similar way that eating hot chilli or capsiacin does. This improves the blood transport of nutrients and oxygen to all parts of the body and is beneficial in this respect. But most people don't like this flushing effect although it will not harm you and is indeed beneficial and evidence that your capillaries have suddenly opened up more. For this reason, niacin has all the attributes of niacinamide plus one other attribute that niacinamide does not have. When you take niacin, not only does it dilate peripheral capillaries but it also changes and thins the blood and gets rid of thick or "clumping blood". This is how niaicn thins out the blood safely. Niacin is also well known to help reduce cholesterol and benefit heart disease. This is not to detract from using niacinamide form which is also highly useful for digestion problems, CNS, extra energy and many other problems. So for circulatory problems, niacin is the one to use, otherwise their beneficial effects are more or less equivalent.


Magnets, Herbs
Posted by Timh (Louisville, Ky, Usa) on 09/06/2012 2042 posts

Bill, thanx so much for your reply as I certainly need help w/ this complex & severe condition. I am taking lots of B-3 Niacinimide 5oomg 1x, B-100 1x, NAD 25mg 1x, 1 gram C (I think I can up this now that iv'e cleared the gallbladder and the acidosis isn't so bad). Am taking Grapeseed Extract, SOD, NAC, Melatonin, MSM, BHT 250 mg 1x --(I do get positive results).

My liver enzymes are normal and i've never been diagnosed w/ hep (but maybe that needs rechecking, do you think?), No sign of jaundice. I purchased some Chanca Pedra extract but it is in alcohol and I totally cannot detox any alcohol so I guess I must boil it off but it seems this will help as my Calcium levels were off the charts 1 yr ago as was my Manganese and all other minerals and metals low. My thyroid goes way down then it comes back up. I supplement Iodine and Tyrosine but I must be careful w/ the T as it raises my B. P. (which is getting better). I started using a standard caps of Clove along w/ Black Walnut Complex for the parasites but it doesn't last long as I cannot taste or smell it afterward as I sometimes have. Also, I think Clove inhibits detox enzymes and I am already taking Turmeric which does inhibit phase 1; but I do take D-Limonene to boost 1 & 2. I also take St John'sWort occasionally w/ L-Lysine to inhibit viral. Fungal & bacterial issues are obvious and I cannot take enough of anything to regain any stamina or bowel health. I am going to try Colloidal Silver once again, as I dropped it many months ago because of gastritis, but that is better now. I am reluctant to use MMS but it looks like I must at least do an 8 drop (my threshold) dose 1x. Am getting back to the DMG but am uncertain of using it and TMG, would you know anything about this? The DMG seems to really help my immunity. I recently read that Organic Germanium is good antioxidant booster and ozygenator, can you confirm this as I am willing to try.

Thanx again for your help as I have somehow spiraled down about as far as I can go. Fortunately my blood counts have remained in normal range. I had 21 units of blood transfusion in 1997 and somehow recovered from aplastic anemia and do not want to go back there again. Is the Astragalus Root good for the bone marrow?


Magnets, Herbs
Posted by Tom (Kansas City, Mo.) on 09/06/2012

Ted, I read your reply to Timh and would like to know how much B-3 you would recommend?

I have hepatitis C and Poly-Neuropathy. I got PN 13 months ago and am now having trouble walking. Much stabbing pain and calf and feet cramps, and tingling, even in my arms.. 24/7. I don't want to go on drugs, but the pain is horrific. Much muscle atrophy. Lost 30 pounds of muscle in a year. Legs shrunk.

Any feedback will be greatly appreciated.

BTW.I have tried magnesium, potassim ACV, and every other remedy for cramping on the site. I believe it may be from the inflamation from my hep-c. My enzymes are 96 and 187. No symptoms at all with hep-c. Energy fine, no jaundice, pain or swelling, appetite OK. Will try Chanca Piedra..

Also I tried clove oil previously and it made my heart race terribly. Would it have a positive effect if I used it transdermally? Maybe going into an untried frontier.

Thank you much. I'm a newcomer to this site... Wish I found it a few years ago...However...


Magnets, Herbs
Posted by Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 09/07/2012

Hi Timh... Just to explain that my own way, with respect to curing serious auto-immune or infectious disease is essentially to fully protect and restore the functions of the intestines, kidneys, liver and thyroid. In short, protecting the intestines ensures proper functioning of the nutritional pathways and excreted waste. The kidneys look after mineral balance in the blood and also the adrenal hormones. The liver, which is the chemical factory of the body, ensures the purity of the blood by excreting dangerous toxins and waste and the thyroid is the governor of the body's metabolism and also modulates all hormone production in the body and helps to support the immune system. In a nutshell -- if you can ensure the good health of your intestines, liver, kidneys and thyroid then you will also have a healthy and pure blood transport system. Then all you have to concentrate on is delivering the proper nutrients via taking nutrients and sticking to a proper unprocessed food diet.

And no matter how I look at your problem, it always seems to come back to the same reason. The supplements you are taking are all excellent and, as you say, your liver and kidney appear to be functioning properly. You are also taking lugols iodine which helps to support your thyroid.

I think the biggest problem you have at the moment are serious malabsorption issues at the intestine/blood level due to a damaged intestine. This is evidenced by the following:

* No matter what minerals, anti-oxidants or nutrients you are taking which should help your problems -- they seem to all have little effect.

* Continual Calcium problems even though you are dealing with this by taking magnesium.

* You have gastritis and also suspect candida -- which can also be the cause of considerable damage in the intestines and be the reason for digestion problems, food sensitivities or allergies.

Therefore, above all else, you must first concentrate on restoring and healing your intestines in order to restore your nutritional pathways.

Here are some suggestions:

Humic/Fulvic Acid

A prime antiviral, toxin remover, mineral supplier and all round intestinal healer for the body. I use just orgainic Humic Acid(black) that is for the garden because it's so much cheaper than food grade. Just to be careful I also add a few drops of lugols iodine to the humic acid and water mixture to get rid of any pathogens, which also helps detox any heavy metals and halogens in the HA. I have also read positive research which has observed that humic acid helps both anemia and allergies but they really don't know why.

Sea Salt

Few seem to realize realize that sodium, in the form of sea salt and in proper amounts, is essential to the absorption pathways at the intestines/blood and at the blood/cell levels where sodium is traded out of the cell, via sodium pumps or symporters, for other essential minerals. If you don't take enough sea salt, your mineral absorption pathways will therefore be impaired. If you take sea salt then you should also drink more water to help detox the blood in order to maintain proper mineral/water balance. Sea salt also acts like a safe antibiotic in the intestines and delivers many other beneficial micro-minerals safely to the body. Take at least half a tspn of Sea Salt a day with water.

Alkalizing

I think you know all about this. This remedy will act to both help recover your intestines and fight candida.

You should take Ted's bicarb and water remedy 3 times a day, 1/2 hr to 1 hour after finshing your meals. Take the ACV or lemon/lime remedy with bicarb and water in between meals. This will also help your digestion problems which can further helped by regularly taking protease enzymes with betaine hydrochloride at mealtimes as I have recently fully described in this post stream on EC.

Borax

A hormone balancer, fluoride remover and the ultimate fungal killer. Use Ted's Borax Water remedy given in Borax Cures on EC. Borax can also kill mycoplasma, a strange fungal like bacteria that can also infect your intestines as well as the rest of your body.

Magnesium Oil

This can be absorbed transdermally through the skin in large amounts safey -- thus bypassing the necessity of having to be digested and absorbed through your somewhat damaged and ill-functioning intestines. This will definitely help to resolve your calcium problems and tissue pain. Magnesium Chloride will also have many other beneficial effects on you body because it is involved in over 300 enzyme and coenzyme processes. Magnesium is also a very useful antibacterial.

Niacinamide

To help raise the immune system which you already know about. I would take a dosage of 500 mgs 3 times a day at mealtimes taken with B50(once a day). Niacin and niacinamide also helps to kill candida and maintain appetite.

Glutamine

Taken purely because of its beneficial healing efects on the intestines. 500 mgs twice a day with meals.

Aloe Vera Juice

A wonderful intestinal healer.

Diet

Avoid all dairy, sugar and vegetable oil products. Where possible -- eat non-processed food.

Since you don't really know what all the problems are, I have tried to ensure nutrients that heal the intestines but also nutrients that will kill fungus, bacteria, viruses as well as mycoplasma in your intestines and body. Supplementing lugols iodine, as you are doing will also help the intestines in this respect. The whole point of the above protocol is just to heal your intestines but the protocol will also have other benefiicial effects against problems like candida, gastritis etc I've also tried to keep my suggestions as cheap as I can for you.


Magnets, Herbs
Posted by Holly (Mooresville, In) on 09/30/2012

To Bill: Is there anything else I could use to disinfect the humic acid powder other than lugol's (expensive)?


Magnets, Herbs
Posted by Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 09/30/2012

Hi Holly... Ted has advised that 3% Hydrogen Peroxide can also be used -- 2 or 3 drops -- to disinfect the humic acid before taking it.


Magnets, Herbs
Posted by Wayseeker (Modesto, Ca/ Usa) on 10/06/2012

Wow. Happy From Up the Creek: What an astonishing post. Any suggestions? Wheatgrass occurs to me. Perhaps the zinc and copper can balance or cancel out some of the manganese? EDTA or Destrotoxin? There is a contra-indication if have mercury amalgams still, like I do. Modified Citrus Pectin? Lypo Vit C? These have potential.

Any ideas here? Don't go outside when it's 'cloudy'? --T.


Magnets, Herbs
Posted by Timh (Louisville, Ky, Usa) on 10/07/2012 2042 posts

Happy: thanks so much for the input. Back in the days when my health was declining and during a weak moment I was working construction when I was exposed to the smoke from a welder, but somehow I didn't experience any acute symptoms, and yrs latter until now experience chronic symptoms (and which are not all classic Mg symptoms). As the yrs went by I added parasites and fungal infections to "piggy-back" on the metals and have led me nearly dead in the last 2 yrs. It's all "kill, eliminate, detoxify" all my waking hrs. I usually take 50mg Zinc gluconate w/ 25mg Krebs Zinc w/ 1.5 mg copper daily. Have just begun experimenting w/ Sodium Thiosulphate w/ seeming good results, as I somehow suffer minor cyanide poisoning after consuming foods high in C.


Magnets, Herbs
Posted by Happy (Up The Creek In, Wv, Usa) on 10/08/2012

Timh; Part of my post to you got edited by the forum moderator... Most especially the part that contained a list of aersol-type chemtrail metals, found in the Arizona air (test location) in 2010.... MANGANESE was measured at 582 times the EPA allowable limit for manganese!!! Arsenic was 418 times the EPA allowable limit. (note:... I will resubmit that list; see further below)

So; you don't need to have been necessarily been exposed to manganese thru your jobs. You have been drenched in manganese from the sky above you, courtesy of you're government. Perhaps some of your symptoms are also arsenic poisoning symptoms.... From the same source. [chem-trail sprayings] Just look up at the sky and see them there.. Every day; day-in, and day-out.... for the past 10 years.

Some doctors are giving pyroluria patients 250 mg zinc per day ...... you mite cautiously investigate that possibility, since zinc is found to reduce manganese in the blood, tissues.

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in reply to 10/06/2012: Wayseeker from Modesto:

Wayseeker; yes, I think wheatgrass juice would be very good to use for detoxification. But zinc is a specific for detoxifying of manganese in the human body. This was found out when people who supplemented with extra zinc were found to be low in manganese. So now we know zinc can lower manganese, drive it out of the body.... your other suggestions would also be very good also, for general heavy metals detoxifying strategy.

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"A new preliminary draft report by Arizona Skywatch [chem-trail watchdog group] shows dramatic increases in heavy metals that simply do not belong in our air. NOTE: The level of Manganese is so shockingly high that Arizona Skywatch also included additional information about it (see below). This report will be posted online shortly. (3) Here are the prepublication results. [NOTE: the Manganese and Copper ratio. ] This is only a preliminary overview of Arizona air particulates.

2010 Air Particulates: Antimony, arsenic, iron, manganese

These figures indicate how many times they are over the "allowable" toxic limit:

Aluminum: 15.8 [ = 15. 8 X the accepted limit set by the EPA]
Antimony: 63.3 [This is not a typo]
Arsenic: 418 [This is not a typo]
Barium: 5.3
Cadmium: 6
chromium: 6.4
Copper: 9
Iron: 43.5 [This is not a typo]
Lead: 15.7
Manganese: 513.8 [This is not a typo] = 513.8 X the EPA LIMIT.
Nickel: 10.7
Zinc: 7.5

"These figures show that there is no air "quality" [a word meaning: excellence or worth]; but instead, there is a combination of hazardous metals permeating the air.


Magnets, Herbs
Posted by Happy (Up The Creek In, Wv, Usa) on 10/08/2012

Timh; I thot I had read once where you stated that you were extremely sensitive to alcohol.... But I could not find a quote to verify it. As I remember; the quote was about not being able to take herb tinctures made with alcohol....... but maybe I am remembering wrong.

Question: are you extremely sensitive to tiny amounts of alcohol hidden in tinctures, etc ?

If so, then I had a another idea for you to consider. food for thot.

If not so; .... then it was someone else.


Magnets, Herbs
Posted by Timh (Louisville, Ky, Usa) on 10/15/2012 2042 posts

Happy, you are so correct it seems, as if from sincerity alone, concerning my condition. A few months ago I gathered two notepads of info on alcohol as well as aldehyde detoxification including diagrams. So I began taking NAD, Molybdenum, FAD, and Niacinamide w/ little benefit overall. As I have previously reported I think my problems started w/ my mother being over-prescribed a diuretic drug during pregnancy back before it had much history of patient usage. I have always been a slow learner, have difficulty apprehending language (especially from young children) even though my hearing checks out fine. Always experienced motion sickness very easily. Experienced more cold and flu episodes much more often than my family or peers. Got very ill the first time I drank beer to get intoxicated (a 6 pack if I remember correctly). I eventually became able to drink responsibly and recreationally w/ some degree of moderation, but I was never able to keep pace w/ the hardcore drinkers, as I would get very sick before I could get very intoxicated. Have always been quite sensitive to pharmaceutical drugs so I always use low doses. Over time my health deteriorated and I experienced "toxicity" issues that eventually led to Aplastic Anemia, Pancytopenea, Myleophistic Leukemia. Made a miraculous recovery from near death and stabilized for about one decade until a recent rapid decline once again despite natural and nutritional therapies.

It's evident you are also correct on the complexity view. So it's a multilayered complex and sever chronic illness that requires all of the study and application I can give it. My current approach is treat all layers at once and aggressively in the effort to overcome one layer at a time (backward from the downhill spiral of the disease process).

I didn't intentially neglect your expressions on intentional pollution and responded w/ a somewhat lengthy rant on conspiracy, but E.C. did not find it appropriate for the boards so it got deleted.

Thanks for your concern and info as it will undoubtedly play a role in any progress I might make.


Magnets, Herbs
Posted by Timh (Louisville, Ky, Usa) on 10/18/2012 2042 posts

Happy: thanks again for your input and concern as there is certainly a lack of those qualities in my immediate vicinity.

I am slowly increasing my Niacin and hope for breakthrough results.

Through out my chronic illness there has been a prominent lack of diagnostics and professional intuition to have experienced resolve. A Minnonite Naturopath Iridologist twice diagnosed (generally) "parasites". I got good initial results w/ Nature's Sunshine "Parascleanse" but only months latter contracted a fungal infection.

No, I began my recent decline at the end of 2008. 2010, 11 was like a dark-out or 2 yrs subtracted from my life as I only endured the suffering. I take mineral baths w/ added Baking Soda as well as take Rutin & Sarsaparilla, and many minerals by mouth including Ionic Trace to combat radiation (which I think has played a minor role as I have suffered acidosis for a long time which results in mineral depletion which invites radiation). Nothing substantial for Benzene, but I have had some sensitivity (and maybe some other major problems) w/ the chem. (smells like benzine) from (of a seeming unlikely source) rubber mousepads.

Chronic Active Viral Hepatitis continues to be a problem especially if I am not being successful at the other levels. The BHT worsens my Alcohol detox (we naturally produce about 3-5 grams per day as a results of food (energy) metabolism. I seem to be able to tolerate no more than 250mg 1X day which isn't quite enough. So I use other protocols for the hep w/ pretty good results. Speaking of which I have begun using Shilajit Extract Fulvic Acid w/ immediate good results and found reported that it is an excellent anti-viral (along w/ many other benefits). Fulvic Acid could easily be a number one single cure all on the planet. Bill highly recommends and we welcome all the info he wishes to disclose on this miracle nutrient.

As for the metals, I need to re-check by hair analysis. My Zinc needs seem to decline as my health betters. I get nausea sometimes at 100mg levels.

As for fungus, I have only recently had good results w/ pharmaceutical grade parasite medication (along w/ herbs and zapping) which has allowed good results w/ fungal treatments especially the use of binders like Brown Seaweed/Sodium Alginate or Chitosan that prevent fungal spores from reentering the bloodstream thru the intestines. Without capturing the spores my aldehyde levels skyrocket to occasional "hangover" mode.

I do get noticeable good results from Sun exposure and I might add to your hypothesis the possibility of a reduction of the fungal molecule Ergometrine in that pathway to Vit-D metabolism. I have recently increased Biotin as it has been shown to arrest the latter stages of fungal development. Am also re-entertaining the use of the plant alkaloid Berberine as I have had good results in the past. Haven't seen much post for it here on E. C. but Dr. Murry highly recommends for infections. Will avoid long-term use so as to not inhibit the B-Vitamins. Other naturals like Iodine, Boric Acid and Caprylic Acid help. Have purchased some Turpentine and will experiment w/ this remedy thru the winter;(will post findings or results) And then there's also the likelihood of Mycoplasma infection as both you and Bill intuited. A very much weakened immune system and lung function was noted during one phase of major decline.

The recent Magnet, and Christopher Liver Herbal was a major step up from the bottom (I continue these daily) and I am slowly building some momentum (thanks to all the help I have been getting here on E.C. ). I encourage folks who read this post to experiment w/ strong magnets for liver disease (especially Cirrhosis) as inflammation is what is postulated as the leading cause of the fibrosis process (this hypothesis would fit for any organ that is compromised by the inflammatory condition, elevated cytokines etc.).

I think it's the combination of factors or causes that result in symptoms that don't correlate to one specific textbook illness, yes and even beginning w/ development in the womb.

Anyway, as a result of this lifelong misfortune I have had so much subtracted that I have only recently begun to experience the possibility of personality fragmentation or identity disorder; which can be a good thing if, given return of good health, would allow for more than a new chapter, what the musician Shawn Calvin sings as "A Whole New You". Trying to stay positive and keeping the dream alive.

Hope you are well.


Magnets, Herbs
Posted by Happy (Up The Creek In, Wv, Usa) on 10/18/2012

Timh; Glad to hear the shilajit is working for you. I have been meaning to experiment with it myself, but have not go around to it yet.

QUOTES:
" 10/15/2012: Timh ... Over time my health deteriorated and I experienced "toxicity" issues that eventually led to Aplastic Anemia, Pancytopenea, Myleophistic Leukemia..."
"10/09/2012: Timh... my last yr's hair analysis did show what I previously noted PLUS abnormally high arsenic."
"10/18/2012: Timh ... I began my recent decline at the end of 2008. 2010, 11...."
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Timh; I just did some reading up on the arsenic metal toxin. go to: http://pmj.bmj.com/content/79/933/391.full ... also go to: http://annals.org/article.aspx?articleid=687064
What I have read in these reports describes your entire symptom set... In 2011 your hair analysis confirmed a high arsenic level in your hair. Did not your doctor follow up on this finding of arsenic poisoning that his tests found? If you are being poisoned with arsenic, then you need not look any further for the cause of your dis-ease. From what I am reading of your symptoms, and the experts recital of what arsenic causes, the damages it does to a man, everything you describe can be explained by [the possible] arsenic poisoning of your tissues!

If I were you, I would do everything I could to ascertain if you are in fact being poisoned by arsenic. It is 100 times more important for a patient to find the cause of his distress, than to treat the symptoms.... Because to remove the cause removes the symptoms. No amount of treating the symptoms will stop the cause. And when the cause is found, and eliminated, the symptoms will fall away, get well, on their own; if the damages done is not irreversible. Of course; you must find a way to remove the toxin, and you still mite have to treat the damages left by the now removed cause.
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http://annals.org/article.aspx?articleid=687064
Leukemia in Arsenic Poisoning, CARL R. KJELDSBERG, M. D. ; and HARRY P. WARD, M. D. , F. A. C. P. , 1 December 1972

Aplastic anemia developed in a 67-year-old man after many months' use of arsenic-containing pesticides. He was treated with penicillamine and oxymetholone, which promptly restored his blood count to normal limits. Three months later he again had aplastic anemia, and the urine once more contained considerable amounts of arsenic. Treatment with pencillamine and oxymetholone was reinstituted. This resulted in excellent urinary excretion of arsenic, but his blood count did not improve. Five months after pancytopenia first developed, he had acute myelogenous leukemia, which was treated with prednisone, cytosine arabinoside, and thioguanine. This had no beneficial effects, and he died of klebsiella septicemia. Autopsy showed widespread leukemic infiltrates. Acute and chronic arsenic toxicity

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question: what toxins caused your "toxicity issues" about 10 years ago, involving the bone marrow blood cell creation disorders?... have you done any recent tests for those same toxins that made you sick back then? is it possible these same toxins struck again in 2008?
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update; things that can reduce manganese in the body: I have learned from the website: http://www.acu-cell.com/femn.html that you can use these minerals and vitamins to reduce manganese; because they are antagonistic to manganese:
Manganese Antagonists: Potassium, magnesium, calcium, iodine, nickel, boron, Vitamin B1, Vitamin B6, Vitamin B15, Vitamin C, [iron],
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keep the faith.


Magnets, Herbs
Posted by Timh (Louisville, Ky, Usa) on 10/20/2012 2042 posts

Happy: "question : what toxins caused your... " It has never been determined the exact cause as to the toxic substance and as my case seemed to be quite non-text-book and an overemphasis on traditional conventional cancer treatment (i.e. bone marrow replacement) any environmental or toxicological studies were never done as I refused treatment while receiving blood transfusions. How I survived is still in the category of "miracle" and only added to the mystique surrounding the etiology to begin with.

The Arsenic could be a problem as I have a somewhat severe peripheral neuropathy, detox, immune, and digestive impairment. Thanks for the articles and seems like no good news for Arsenic toxicity, but I would bet that the humic/fulvic acid would come as close to being the single best treatment, imho.

Have had blood test for top zenobiotic contaminates w/ nothing showing (1997 test).

Other methods for detox I am currently deploying are the Foot-Pads, Foot-Spa, Oil Pulling. On almost a daily basis I reach a point where some of the "heavy" toxins are released from the liver and back into the bloodstream thru the gut as I can detect this as what seems like being electrocuted. I get this sensation usually down my legs and prominent in the feet (place of highest blood flow); many times I will get an acute headache when this happens. For yrs I would quickly do mineral footbath to reduce the symptoms and help chelate the toxin, but now seem to have good results w/ O.P.

I take 1 grm NAC daily as well as (only) one grm Vit-C. This week was a "no progress" one as my fungal infection raged back into the fore. Tried my first Nystatin yesterday 500, 000 unit cap w/ good results. It seems obvious I will need to make my own Lipospheric Vit-C as my immune system is overwhelmed. Results w/ the Cruciferous antioxidants (like indole 3 carbinol, DIM) are nothing to note so I only use them occasionally. I continue hesitation on MMS for some reason (it doesn't taste "that bad"). An one 8 drop dose daily would help. Jim Humble say MMS is effective against heavy metal as the chlorine dioxide molecule is a very powerful reducer excepting (i think 5) electrons which in turn completely disables the offending free-radical. Sodium Thiosulphate is also becoming part of my protocol.

War on the molecular front for sure.


Magnets, Herbs
Posted by Connie (Slc, Utah, Usa) on 10/20/2012

Hi Timh; It's heartbreaking to read about your continued suffering, especially when you are continuing to devote so much energy to helping folks here.

I see you've tried everything many times over, and that you won't give up. I can't seem to give up either; hope is certainly the main reason, but another reason is ; I just can't stand pain anymore!

I remember that you've written about taking B12, and that you're levels now tested "fine". But one of the fallacies of a B12 serum test is that it only measures what is in the serum, where B12 is least active.

There are many of us who must take extremely high dosages of it to relieve neuropathy. One possible reason for this is that we may be lacking transport proteins to carry B12 into the cells, organs, nerves, etc.

Also, Folate is needed to support B12 metabolism. Many people, from 10% on up of the world's population, may be deficient in the enzyme that converts inactive folic acid to active folate. ( methylfolate) These people may need to take methylfolate as a supplement to be able to use it.

Some recent research has shown that people with impaired methylation tend to accumulate arsenic. This research has shown that folate deficiency is associated with arsenic accumulation.

There are many nutrients needed for proper methylation, including B12 and Folate.

Although they are needed in good proportion to support each other, B12 predominantly supports nerves, and Folate mainly supports tissues.

I suggest that you consider increasing Methylcobalamin and Methlyfolate as much as is needed to relieve neuropathy. ( It has also relieved my liver and kidney pain.)

My B12 is now above 3000 pg/ml. I can no longer use the serum test to indicate my status. I use symptoms as an indicator. Isn't that what we use with other supplements, herbs, etc. ? Sometimes, I find blood serum measurements, in general, to be indefinite... too vague.

My best to you.


Magnets, Herbs
Posted by Happy (Up The Creek In, Wv, Usa) on 10/20/2012

Timh; I like the nutritional supplement protocol that you have developed. You are doing a commendable job fine tuning the program to fit your individual metabolism and individual needs. I think you are steering a wise course in carefully selecting non-toxic substances over toxic drugs of dubious long-term value.

If I may be so bold as to offer the opinion of a amature health seeker; then it would be this:
1. given: you fell acutely ill about about 10 years ago, and almost died from sudden on-set multi-systems failure, of a un-known reason. Your AMA union doctors failed to find a cause. They did offer some palliative [stop-gap]measures. Heroic measures. Bone-marrow transplants, toxic chemo-therapies, etc etc. They could not guarantee a successfull cure tho, because they did not find a cause. If you don't know the cause, you can't find a cure. So; what did they offer? a slow painfull death by: cut, poison, and burn [with radiation] process. An income stream for them and their colleagues, for several months of income. You wisely declined that option [in my opinion].
2. Once you declined their professional advice; they wrote you off as being "non-compliant patient". After that they were not really interested in you or your case of leukemia and other blood dis-orders. Altho they mite go thru the motions of allowing you office visits, and charging you for them. They did not offer to give you testing to find the toxin that caused this. They did not want to know what it is, and they did not want you to know what it is. Instead: They wanted you sto comply, to submit, to their authority in the matter.
3. At one point, in 2011, you had some-one do a hair test; that hair test showed you had been subjected to arsenic poisoning. So, we now know you were, or are, poisoned with arsenic. For some odd reason, whoever did the hair test and found the arsenic poisoning, did not offer to do follow-up urine tests for arsenic poisoning, and [aparently] did not reveal to you that every symptom you are having, is a symptom of arsenic poisoning... Even tho you are deathly ill and in-capacitated by your arsenic caused diseases. Multiple dis-eases; all caused by arsenic poisoning. Why that doctor failed to inform you about the effects of arsenic poisoning, and how that arsenic poisoning is causing your present state of multiple organ failures is a mystery. [Perhaps you can now ask him why he failed to inform you of this. ]
4. We now know, from the hair analysis, that you have been poisoned by arsenic at least twice: once about 10 yrs ago, and once in late 2008. Those were 2 times you experienced violent multiple organ failures, all being classic symptoms of arsenic poisoning. There could also be a on-going intake of arsenic by you, over that 10 yrs, in which the amount consumed did not rise to the level to cause severe organ break-down, but did on-going damage, never-the-less. We simply do not know; because you have not yet found the source of the arsenic toxin. You could be getting more arsenic every day. You can not stop it until you find the source of it in your life.
6. Your most important job to do now is to find the source of the arsenic poison in your life, and stop the intake of it. This is 100 times more important than treating the damage, the symptoms. Stop the source and stop all the new damages from occuring. If you can not find the source of the arsenic, then all is lost. All of your efforts to manage the symptoms and heal the damage done will be in vain..... Unless the source is stopped. New intake; New damage.
7. The sources of the arsenic are plentifull. many many sources. Rice is one of them. Read the documents hyper-linked below for all the known sources of arsenic around us. Some people use it to murder other people. You have to find your source of it.
8. Symptoms of arsenic poisoning: I am providing a few internet document links below. I find all of your symptoms fit arsenic.
9. treatment for removal of arsenic from the body: read about some hints to that in the linked documents.
10. I am just a person who knows how to read. I have no direct experience with diagnosing arsenic poison in humans. You have more information about you than I do. If you find that my conclusions about your diagnosis are in error, then feel free to discard them, and take what you find usefull from them, if anything. From my view; you have all the symptoms of arsenic poisoning, confirmed by a hair mineral test. If you get rid of the arsenic, you have a chance at getting rid of the symptoms it has caused.

keep the faith.
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[PDF] Arsenic - Pesticides with an Ambivalent Character by A Shab
direct download link: cdn.intechweb.org/pdfs/21179.pdf ... Or.... http://www.intechopen.com/books/pesticides-in-the-modern-world-risks-and-benefits/arsenic-pesticides-with-an-ambivalent-character

Table 4. Human effects after chronic arsenic exposure

System Effect and symptoms
Skin Skin lesions (melanosis, keratosis)
Cardiovascular Blackfoot disease, atherosclerosis, hypertension
Hepatic Hepatomegaly, fibrosis, cirrhosis, altered heme metabolism
Hematological Bone marrow depression (anemia, leucopenia, thrombocytopenia)
Endocrine Diabetes
Renal Tubule degeneration, papillary and cortical necrosis
Nervous Peripher and central neuropathy, encephalopathy
respiratory Pulmonary insufficiency, emphysem
Gastrointestinal Hemorrhage

Industrial use
In industry, arsenic is used to manufacture polants, fungicides, insecticides, pesticides, herbicides, wood preservatives, and cotton desiccants. In most local hardware stores arsenic-containing herbicides are readily available, the most common are e. G. Disodium methylarsonate (DSMO), monosodium methylarsonate (MSMA),
monomethyl arsenic acid (MMA(V)). These compounds can kill crabgrass and other unwanted grass types. Arsenic trioxide (AS2O3) is commonly used as an antisecticide. Arsenic acid and arsenous acid are common rodenticides.

The major use for arsenic is in the form of chromated copper arsenate, which reduces termites and ants from wood. Arsenic is used industrially as an additive to glass to reduce coloring, in semiconductors, in pigments such as Paris green (CuHAsO3) and in pesticides. Paris Green is a common name for copper (II) acetoarsenite, which is a toxic emerald-green crystalline powder...
The use has been abandoned around 1960. The III-V semiconductors are very important in the fabrication of LED ´s, tunnel diodes, infrared emitters, laser window and Hall-effect devices. There are no evidence based treatments to reduce chronic arsenic poisoning, but antioxidants have been advocated: Pharmacological interventions such as vitamin C, folic acid, vitamin b12 have been identified to halt the development of arsenic-induced toxicity. More studies are needed. The essential and basic efforts for the reduction of chronic arsenic toxicity are prevention.
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http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/magazine/2012/11/arsenic-in-your-food/index.htm
Organic rice baby cereal, rice breakfast cereals, brown rice, white rice new tests by Consumer Reports have found that those and other types of rice products on grocery shelves contain arsenic, many at worrisome levels. Following our January investigation, "Arsenic in Your Juice, " which found arsenic in apple and grape juices, we recently tested more than 200 samples of a host of rice products. They included iconic labels and store brands, organic products and conventional ones; some were aimed at the booming gluten-free market.
The results of our tests were even more troubling in some ways than our findings for juice. In virtually every product tested, we found measurable amounts of total arsenic in its two forms...
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A Guillain-Barr© Syndrome-like Neuropathy Associated with Arsenic Exposure
download at: joh.sanei.or.jp/pdf/E54/E54_4_12.pdf
because of his recent use of herbal medication, we screened for the presence of several heavy metals. Serial analyses of urinary inorganic arsenic concentrations confirmed exposure to arsenic. He was diagnosed as arsenic neuropathy mimicking GBS without any systemic manifestation of arsenic intoxication. Conclusions: The present case study emphasizes the need to consider arsenic intoxication in patients presenting with acute demyelinating neuropathies and histories of herbal medication use.
from: copy & paste into web browser address bar: < joh.sanei.or.jp/pdf/E54/E54_4_12.pdf >
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All about arsenic & arsenic poisoning: 4 large documents:
http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/csem/arsenic/docs/arsenic.pdf
Arsenic Toxicity What are the Physiologic Effects of Arsenic Exposure?
http://www.med.unc.edu/intselect/files/Biochemistry of Arsenic Poisoning.pptx
bio-chemistry of arsenic
http://cdn.intechweb.org/pdfs/21179.pdf
http://pmj.bmj.com/content/79/933/391.full


Magnets, Herbs
Posted by Timh (Louisville, Ky, Usa) on 10/21/2012 2042 posts

Happy: I got hair analysis done by ND w/ phone fallow-up and Metabolic diet recommendation (slow metabolizer). The Arsenic levels were just above acceptable levels so he did mention this could become an issue. My previous statement of "abnormally high" could have been misleading. Further testing will be necessary. As for a single cause, you would be correct in the Arsenic as it is very toxic, but there are other causes or toxins involved.

As for the politics of medicine, I was indeed thrust headlong into the Lion's Den of the Corporate Profit Machine. I try to stay courteous and positive in all circumstances, which isn't always easy. My stress levels are always thru the roof.

I forgot to mention I am also taking EDTA caps one or two per day, which should pull that bad Arsenic out as well as Manganese.

One item I think may be causing a problem recently is the herb Wormwood that is in the complex for parasites. I am having this wasting syndrome w/ my muscles, but this could be autoimmune fibro type thing, but I am going to stop the Wormwood for a while and note any improvements. Some Natural health prof's recommend to never use Wormwood as it is mildly toxic. Molybdenum seems to be critical for whatever reason (other than aldehyde detox); something to do w/ Uric Acid creation or metabolism.

Again thanks for the concern and info as I am walking a line of either getting better or worse depending on the accuracy of my diagnostics & treatments.


Magnets, Herbs
Posted by Timh (Louisville, Ky) on 10/21/2012 2042 posts

Connie: thanx for your input and concern. As for methylation I don't know. I am taking different forms of B-12 and Folic Acid; also DMG & TMG. Have been off SAM-e for about 3 months now (cutting cost). My Neuropathy is more numbness than pain (although some pain is always present). I have very little feeling from just above my ankles and below. My feet are almost totally numb all the time.

I hope you are getting better. I cannot recall much of your posts but I do remember a couple just recently. My mind is compromised but sometimes I have a few good days that help to organize and function. What possibly could you benefit from? I want to help but am uncertain if I'm able. I am w/ you on the suffering; it's just been too much for too long. Reading NDE's is my greatest pleasure. Many report that even a lifetime of hardship & suffering is eclipsed by one eternal moment w/ the very powerful love of God, Christ, Angels and the "Magnificent Beings".


Magnets, Herbs
Posted by Robert Henry (Ten Mile, Tn) on 10/21/2012

Became familar with arsenic posioning while in EDTA Chelation sessions with others. Several were doing chelation to remove the arsenic. One got arsenic from eating chicken. Almost all Big Agri chickens are fed arsenic which makes them eat constantly. Another had arsenic because of his well water. Arsenic occurs naturally is some water and some waters were contaminated when arsenic was used to kill boll worms in tobacco plants. East Tenn, N. C. , and Ky are good examples. The third guy got his arsenic from his wife. He was a very wealthy retiree and his wife wanted to see the world. He did not. She decided she was going to see the world without him. Our Doctor was the one who figured the saga out. He laughed about after he divorced her. The grown kids cried and he did not press charges. How are you and your spouse getting along?

I think you are whistling Dixie when you use oral EDTA trying to remove your arsenic. EDTA Chelation by I.V. 's works for certain. I question what you are doing, but wish you the best.


Beet Juice, Tomato Juice, Sage Tea
Posted by Oscar (Syracuse, New York) on 08/17/2012

I am pretty sure you are Alicia, Is that true? Anyway, thank you for your helpful advice. How are you doing Alicia? I will post your advise over at the BHT CURES group. I hope you are well. Please let me know how you are doing. Your Freind, ...Oscar


Milk Thistle
Posted by Karen (Kennesaw, Georgia, USA) on 05/20/2012

Milk Thistle and Turmeric will lower your Enzyme levels in your Liver, avoid mixing vinegar and baking soda, and if you've had problems with stomach ulcers do not use aspirin either. Ask your Doctor about Protonix for your acid indigestion.


Detox
Posted by Jen (Bozeman, Mt, Us) on 03/08/2012

Mmmmm.... I am going to have to try this one. It sounds kind of yummy for a liver cleanse:) I love carrot salad.


Turmeric
Posted by beverly (Texas) on 09/27/2024

The American Journal of Medicine
https://www.amjmed.com › article › fulltext

Liver Injury Associated with Turmeric—A Growing Problem: Ten …WEB

Liver injury due to turmeric appears to be increasing in the United States, perhaps reflecting usage patterns or increased combination with black pepper. Turmeric causes potentially severe liver injury that is typically hepatocellular, with a latency of 1 to 4 months and


Turmeric
Posted by Jen (Bozeman, Mt, Us) on 12/09/2011

What great news. Thank you for sharing this with us. I think it will be very helpful to many. I will definitely start cooking with turmeric more.


Turmeric
Posted by Faith (Forest Park, Ohio) on 12/27/2011

I would have LOVED to have seen the look on their faces... Just think of ALL that money and heartache you saved yourself... Lol!!! You Rock!


Turmeric
Posted by Hmmm (Glendale, Ca) on 12/28/2011

Mom from Mo, thanks for the suggestions for topical turmeric. How much turmeric do you eat a day? I read it's a blood thinner, so I'd like to eat enough to get some benefit without overdoing it.


Turmeric
Posted by Gerardo From Mexico (Mexico City, Mexico Df, Mexico) on 04/06/2012

To Paul from Seattle, you mention taking 400 selenium, do you mean mg? mcg? I read the average consumption for an adult is 100 - 200 mcg, 400 mcg would be double, now mg would be crazy of the charts. Help me out figuring out what you meant to say, please. Or let me know if it is correct and it was recommended due to your condition. Thank you.


Turmeric
Posted by Bishikesan (India) on 10/23/2014

Hello, this is true. I have fatty liver.
Should I use fresh turmeric or powder, please answer.
Now how are you.. I hope enough good, thanks.


Turmeric
Posted by Dave (Maryland) on 11/03/2015

I have been adding turmeric daily for awhile now as a preventative. How much turmeric do you take per day? How much do you give each dog?


Coconut Oil
Posted by Eric (Takoradi, Ghana) on 12/04/2011

WHAT TYPE OF COCONUT OIL, PLEASE? I HAVE BEEN DIAGNOSED WITH HEP B.


Coconut Oil
Posted by Andrea C (Cardiff, Wales) on 02/14/2013

where can you get the tea you mentioned??


Coconut Oil
Posted by James Lucky (Ibadan, Nigeria) on 11/19/2014

Hello am James pls how can some one with liver problem take coconut oil. I mean daily consumption and applying. Thanks I will be looking forward to hear from you.


ALA, Selenium, Milk Thistle
Posted by Laura (Weatherford, Texas) on 10/19/2011

What is this stuff and where could I find it? Could you explain a little more detail about how it is suppose to be taken? And is it safe for peoples with hcv?


ALA, Selenium, Milk Thistle
Posted by Anne (San Antonio , Tx) on 11/25/2011

Did this eliminate your ascites or did you have to be tapped also? Did you have edema and was that eliminated also? Because your have used this combination, how are your liver enzymes and blood test results? Please respond asap, as my husband was recently diagnosed as having liver cirrhosis - no biopsy as yet, but has these symptoms. He has been tapped but the ascites comes right back. We need your input.


ALA, Selenium, Milk Thistle
Posted by Gokhan (Istanbul, --, Turkey) on 05/09/2012

Dear Peter, thanks information you gave... I am from Turkey. My mother has Liver cirrhosis. I read lots of good things about Dr. Burt Berkson's protocol. I want to try ALA, Selenium, Sylmarian with B complex on my mother. But I am confused about dose... I will try to give 100mg ALA 3x in a day (total 300mg in a day). Than go up to 300mg ALA 3x in a day (total 900mg in a day). is it reasonable ? when we must stop to give ALA?

ps. I found that, Dr. Berkson recommends Metabolic Maintenance, Carlsons, and Biotech vitamin manufacturers. One of the interview he says dose about ALA.. "he has never gone above 15 mg/kg. For primates it takes about 90 mg/kg to kill a primate.


ALA, Selenium, Milk Thistle
Posted by Anup (Mumbai, Ap/india) on 09/24/2012

Hi Peter, what are the dosages for the ALA IV and was it the only infusion given or any other IV was given to you. Did the water accumulation stop for you?


ALA, Selenium, Milk Thistle
Posted by Alisha (Little Rock, Ar) on 05/25/2013

Please let me know how this works. I have same issues with doctor saying the same thing.. Please help


General Feedback
Posted by Chris (Sydney, Nsw, Australia) on 10/15/2012

I agree! Would be great if you could share the Dr & protocol they used here. Sounds great.


Detox
Posted by Bibi (Nashville, Tn) on 08/28/2011

To Amy from Moscow, ID - thank you! This IS great and very helpful info.


Detox
Posted by Bob (New York) on 08/28/2011

Oscar, I have trouble gaining weight, what do you recommend to gain back weight ? I still taking digestive enzymes for digestive issues.


Milk Thistle With Choline
Posted by Crazydogjack (New Castle, Pa, Usa) on 12/07/2010

Here's a question for all of you Earth Clinic friends.... I started taking Milk Thistle w/Choline for a fatty liver about two weeks ago. I noticed that my appetite has decreased (which isn't a bad thing), and I am wondering if any of you experts out there have any feedback as to why the decrease in appetite and cravings?


Apple Cider Vinegar, Coconut Oil
Posted by Tashimoto (Vancouver, British Columbia) on 11/14/2009

See the mini beet protocol elsewhere on this site. Proceed with small amounts of beet juice at first as it seems to be quite a powerful cleanser for some people.

EC: Here's the link for the mini beet protocol: https://www.earthclinic.com/remedies/mini-beet-protocol.html


Carbonated Water, Lemon Juice, Sea Salt
Posted by Anglii (Edmonton, Alberta) on 11/07/2011

A swollen belly is ascites and you should never take sodium (salt) for ascites. You need to follow a low sodium diet.


Carbonated Water, Lemon Juice, Sea Salt
Posted by Yogita (UP, India ) on 05/24/2021

Please explain and detail about sea salt .. Was your sea salt iodized? What were the components of your sea salt? I have liver issues.
Please help me.


Carbonated Water, Lemon Juice, Sea Salt
Posted by Ariana (SF, California ) on 07/10/2022

Hi…can you give any exact measurements of the salt drink? My mom is in end stage liver failure and I really need help. Thank you!


Coffee
Posted by Neili (USA) on 11/03/2008

Hi Ted,

I just came across this webpage, which discusses using coffee amongst other things to help promote bile flow.
http://www.itmonline.org/arts/chlorogenic.htm

I love the moderate use of coffee but abstain from it as most complementary health practitioners, including Traditional Chinese Medicine say to avoid it. I'd love to hear your feelings on drinking coffee when the liver / gallbladder are impaired and when there is also already a danger that the body is too acidic. Thanks and bless you.

Neil

Coffee
Posted by Michael A (Central Florida) on 01/30/2017

Hi, Stephanie: if I changed from a paleo diet about a month ago to a plant based whole foods (Protective Diet) about 5 weeks ago, do you think an inflammation in my left chest under breast area in last few days could be result of detoxing from previous diet? Maybe stones or bile? I looked it up and both liver & gallbladder are on right side, correct, so I'm wondering if this sensation of fullness in left abdomen, way under heart, could be from either? Confused!


Mimosa
Posted by Tan Koon Peng (Singapore) on 07/01/2008
★★★★★

Mimosa is effective for Uremia.

I have introduce mimosa to my friends in philippines and they are thrilled with the results.

One old man with liver and kidney problem was sent home to die as his condition is serious and he can`t pass urine at all.After taking mimosa he can pass urine smoothly and his liver and kidney function is improving.Now he is on his way to recovery.

A old lady with liver problem take mimosa for her high fever. After taking mimosa, her fever went down.She is still taking mimosa for her liver problem.

Mimosa
Posted by Dahlia Din (Ipoh, Malaysia) on 11/20/2008

I have liver problems. Need to know more about MIMOSA. How can I obtain it? Do I pick the ones grown in the wilds? How is it taken. Do give more details Mr. Tan.


Mimosa
Posted by Joel (Houston, United States) on 12/13/2012

longevitymeme: mesenchymal stem cells fix liver damage in 3 out of 5 people


Mimosa
Posted by Timh (Louisville, Ky, Usa) on 12/14/2012 2042 posts

Best results are obtained combining the Stem Cells Treatment w/ Human Growth Hormone Therapy.


Mimosa
Posted by Ajjab (Faisalabad, Punjab) on 08/27/2015

Sir, can you tell me the urdu name for mimosa and its uses and how can we use it?

I had joindus 17 years ago after that sgpt Nd uric acid have been disturbing n stones prodused now ultrasound specialist told me that I have liver and kidnrys parenchymal disease. I went to a homeopathic doctor for this but my uric acid raised more 9 and my feet got swollen and pain in the whole body. My blood test told me that Alkline phosphatsse 230 it's raised and uric acid 9. He gave me two medicine fabiana pichi pichi and Quassia amara Q. Now swelling is gone but still I felt pain in back lower and kidneys n liver side pain like pain in the body n organs. I'm much worried about my health kidney n liver ptoblem inherited in my family. pls help me parenchyma .......pissing me uric acid sgpt alkline phophatase ya one thing creatinine was also on border line 1.


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Posted by Diane (MN) on 09/12/2024

Try warming it in the microwave with honey. That takes out the tartness.


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Posted by Michael A (Central Florida) on 01/30/2017

I love your ginger idea, but isn't it kind of spicy hot?

Also, a general question to all - I think it's either my gallbladder or my liver acting up right now (illeosecal valve is staying stuck open) & I have seemingly inflamed, maybe referred discomfort under left breast/stomach. I'm ready to do castor oil pack, which worked for me for something so long ago that I've forgotten. But where do I do it? Where I feel the seeming inflammation on left side, or where my liver or gallbladder are? Any thoughts?


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Posted by Wendy (Elizabethtown, PA) on 02/01/2008

Question for Brenda from Georgia or any one else that can help. The recipe for liver damage, is that for a fatty liver? Question about the recipe. Do you take 3 cloves of garlic a night. And do you mix the apple cider vinegar and tea together?


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Posted by maureen (portland, ME) on 09/20/2007

I read a post from Brenda from Georgia on 8/21/2006 who said she had seizures. But, she didnt' say much about what she does to control them. Or, if there is anyone who has success stories for their own seizure control? I am trying to get off my meds and go in the alternative medicine direction and any feedback would be appreciated. Thank you in advance! P.S. I LOVE your website!


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Posted by Ted (Bangkok, Thailand) on 08/24/2006 392 posts

here are a great many remedies for liver damage depending on the cause. If I were to cover everything, the number of pages could reach well into the hundreds.

To make things simple, it depends on whether the damaged liver is caused by virus, fungus, chemical toxins, deficiency, or diets.

If the liver damage is a viral cause, then apple cider vinegar, hydrogen peroxide, tea tree oil, garlic lavender, for example are taken internally.

If it is a fungus issue, then it is the issue of raising your immune levels, which very likely be zinc, copper peptides (copper chloride reacted with a soy protein), manganese, hydrogen peroxide, for example should help.

If it is a chemical toxin issue, then great detoxifiers taken at different times of course, includes sodium thiosulfate, hydrogen peroxide, borax, apple cider vinegar, and indole-3-carbinol, should detoxify most known chemicals. Of course, I haven't had the time to find all the detoxifiers yet. A natural detoxifier, rather expensive here in Bangkok, which seems to work like a miracle for Parkinson's, Alzheimer, or MS is L-Gluthathione, but the dosage is fairly large and beyond the budget for most people. Curcumin and Milk Thistle also helps here too.

If the cause is one of deficiency, a common cure is usually vitamin A, vitamin C, vitamin B complex, manganese, vitamin E, zinc and selenium. To complete the deficiency of liver damage, baking soda plus citric acid or baking soda plus vinegar, should complete most of the problems.

If the cause is a dietary one, then lecithin, apple cider vinegar, and garlic (contains DMSO) which allows nutrients to reach the deficient liver cells.

I could not possibly cover everything, it depends on the likelihood of the cause, as opposed to the traditional view of conventional medicine, which is to look at the symptoms and then to cover it up, or sweep it under the rug, e.g. give pain relievers to rid of pain. The cause of pain is ignored, which is a slipped disc on your back. You can guess at the consequences, a catastrophe waiting on your door.


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Posted by Robin (Salisbury, Nc) on 12/29/2009

Hi, we have not tried the remedy for damaged liver as of yet. My boy friend has a damaged liver due to alcohol. Will the garlic apple cider vinegar and tea work for him? Also how much apple cider and tea, and is the tea just like ice tea? If I can get the exact ingredients and measurements I will start him on it at once. Thank for all you help


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Posted by Greta (Kamloops, Bc Canada) on 10/07/2010

Brenda from Georgia: What kind of tea is used in the garlic/ACV remedy for liver damage. Thanks.


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Posted by Madhuri (Cambridge, Cambs / Uk) on 01/17/2011

I have just been put on Growth hormone replacement therapy, I may have to take it for the rest of my life. I am 58 years old. I read on this site that Ted says Growth hormone destroys the liver. Ted, what can I do to help my liver, and also stop anything growing that shouldn't?

This is an incredible site, without a doubt the best for self help.You have helped and are helping so many people. Please keep up this wonderful work. Much love and success to you all.


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Posted by Michele (North Vancouver, British Columbia) on 10/18/2011

Hi,

Regardless of what ailment you are dealing with, whether it be cancer or chronic illness, you should check out the Gerson Juicing diet. I have spent the last few months researching and watching a handful of videos on the topic. It has been proven to help and even cure a fast majority of cancers including liver disease.
The key component apart from juicing organic veggies every day is to have organic coffee enemas.

http://gerson.org/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=9&products_id=527 this is a link that if you donate 5 dollars you can watch the documentary ' The Gerson Miracle'
'Dying to have known' you can rent from itunes and it is what started me on the whole process, it will outrage you what the drug companies are doing.
http://gerson.org/store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=9&zenid=4bc0ba1304b32775db651058689ec5d1 this contains most books and dvds about Gerson but as I said you can rent from itunes a lot cheaper ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShqKk3fasZA this is a youtube video that explains some of the science.


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Posted by Rochelle (Montgomery, Texas) on 09/26/2013

You do not specify what kind of tea to use. Just plain old Lipton tea or what?


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Posted by Leslie (Rowland, NC) on 06/03/2014

How exactly do you make the tea? Did you put all that garlic in for a one day supply?


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Posted by Nicole (Trinidad) on 11/09/2014

Can you clarify how you make the tea? Do you swallow the garlic raw? Will appreciate the feedback... Tks


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Posted by Racel (Maramag, Bukidnon, Philippines) on 12/18/2014

I had a polyps measure 0. 30cm, and I had pain in my right upper abdomen connect to my back.. Plz. Help me find a cure for this..


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Posted by Rob (Cebu City, Philippines) on 01/25/2015

Hi are you still in good health? I am having liver problem and polyp.


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Posted by Angelica (Columbus, Oh/ Usa) on 05/26/2015

I have a question for you. Does this tea drink make your body or breath smell like garlic? What do you do to control it if it does? Thank you. -Angelica


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Posted by Shawn (Bella Vista, Ar) on 03/13/2018

How do you make the tea? Clarification garlic pills at night with tea of ginger and apple cider vinegar? Says tea 3 x a day ( how much?)


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Posted by David (Ghana) on 06/22/2018

Do u have to blend the garlic or u can swallow the cut cloves?


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Posted by Zinny (Lagos) on 04/23/2023

Good to know you are doing fine, did you continue on this regimen for the 5 years period or do you relapse each time you stop? What is reg.tea please? will appreciate an urgent response as it is an emergency. Continue to be in good health.


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Posted by B (London) on 06/10/2024

Hi, what do you mean by Reg. Tea? What kind of tea? Thank you


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Posted by SUNNY (Ca) on 12/16/2024

What kind of tea? What is regular tea?



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