Black Seed Oil
★★★★★
Also eat ALKALINE FOODS in ABUNDANCE and take a Multivitamin (I like Dead Sea Moringa) mix w/Coconut Water. GOD BLESS YOU ALL! Judy
Cabbage
★★★★★
I am not sure what kind of cabbage is best or method. Also, my Mother is on Coumadin and most herbs seem to be prohibitive. I am still checking out the sites.
Thank you for this information. I hope mine helps someone.
Ladybugjustice
(Southern California)
04/09/2016
Wow interesting Ladybugjustice - if you're still responding to this thread, I'd love to hear how the cabbage continued to do for you--What a crazy idea!! Also wondering how your Mom was able to get Coumarin...
Coumarin works so well it's a shame Mayo clinic (purposely, I believe) "killed it" in clinical trials.
But hey! If the cabbage works as well as some say here--an alternate solution!
I've had lymphedema in my R leg--goes all the way up to abdomen--from radical hysterectomy 25 years ago. Best things I ever found for it were coumarin, and circaid legging (now called juxta-fit, I think--gotta get a new one one of these days but my old ratty one still works! It's for while you exercise) and I wear futuro firm compression pantyhose daily.
Never noticed green tea helping but I never tried it so intensively either. Blessings everyone!!
(Florida)
04/20/2024
Cassius cinnamon contains Coumarin.
Cabbage
★★★★★
So now I have tried only acupuncture and only cabbage poultice and they both work well. But the 2 on the same day produces the most dramatic results. ( I have continued to drink ginger tea throughout.) I prepare the cabbage (a traditional round head variety, preferably organic) by heating a cast iron (optional) skillet and adding the cabbage leaf, which has been dipped in water, then I use another smaller skillet to flatten the leaf for a total of 2-3 seconds or less on each side. This wilts it and makes it pliable. Then I hold it in place with a piece of cling wrap, and a sports bra. This poultice could be modified for a leg or arm and held in place with cling wrap and an ace bandage. I sleep with it for 5-6 hours, which seem to be enough. We used cabbage poultice years ago for a nursing mother with mastitis and it worked well then also.
Cabbage
★★★★★
I've also learned red root is helping some people with lymphedema. I just ordered Eclectic Institute red root tincture on iHerb to try. Not very expensive at all.
I learned on a facebook page that applying Eucerin cream blended with lemongrass oil on the area helps. They also say it could irritate at first use as it is removing impurities. Eucerin contains castor oil. Since it has ingredients that aren't natural, I'm going to try blending castor oil with lemongrass oil in virgin coconut oil. Coconut oil has anti-viral/anti-septic qualities that should help and it softens the skin, which should help.
Thanks again on the cabbage leaf wrap. I'll keep using it.
Cabbage
★★★★★
Then I found my way to some physical therapists who taught me a routine of lymph node massage that works temporarily, by making the lymph flow around my system better. But it only gives temporary relief and I have to do it twice a day. I'm busy and don't have much time for this.
Then late night surfing I ran across the idea of cabbage wrap. Nothing had worked for about 10 years and the condition seemed to slowly be getting worse. I've seen no explanation for why it works, but decided to give a cabbage wrap a try, if for no other reason, I believe cabbage is very healthy and a cabbage wrap sounds ridiculous. I stuffed some cabbage in my compression sock. Lo and behold! Dramatic improvement in 2 days! Reduction of about 50% of the swelling. I'm keeping this up! Will it be permanent? We'll see. Does anyone have a reasonably rational theory for why this would actually work?
(Missouri City, Texas)
01/05/2014
My husband has lymphedema in both legs. He also has congestive heart failure. His cardiologist recommended a triple dose of fluid/heart medication to cure the lymphedema, however this negatively affects his kidneys as his kidney function is already at 35%. Triple medication is not good, but it is all that we could figure to do. The medication does help, but his legs are still swollen, not as badly.
Will the cabbage poultice work with raw cabbage? It would seem that boiling the cabbage would dilute its power, but I am just guessing.
I would like to try the cabbage poultice on his legs overnight. Is there a standard recipe for the poultice? I would appreciate any positive response from someone who has actually used this. Thank you very much.
(Hope Bc Canada)
01/05/2014
★★★★★
Frances from Missouri City, Texas
European Natural Medicine uses cabbage leaves raw. There are many testimonials as to complete cure when allopathic methods were unsuccessful.
The cabbage leaf has to be flattened well with a cookie roller so that the veins in the leaf made more pliable. Then, it has to be fastened around the area without air pockets. What to use I cannot find out but I imagine it as pure cotton gauze type of fabric and DEFINITELY not plastic. No one in Europe who uses natural medicine uses plastic. The reason being that during application emanations from the sick tissue must be able to dissipate, not forced back into the body. The final cover, pure wool.
I hope this helps. I must mention the incredible cures achieved with this method and within a short time. Om
(Fountain Inn, Sc)
01/05/2014
Hello Frances,
You ask for the correct formula for the Cabbage Poultice...
I think the best authority is Jakobi Jakstein...Google the pdf: "Wonder Drug Cabbage"...Jakstein wilts her cabbage leaves one second in hot water.
(Etobicoke, Ontario)
03/26/2016
To Om, Hope, BC Canada, the way I use the plastic is first apply the softened cabbage, then wrap with cotton, then ace bandage, then cover everything with plastic to keep the wet from the cabbage from seeping through. Also it keeps the cabbage from drying out too fast and it likely reduces some of the cabbage smell. After all that I put on socks to keep it all from unravelling. I do know from experience that the plastic does not interfere with the cabbage doing its job! I agree with you to not put plastic directly over the cabbage.
(Usa)
08/25/2017
Thank you for the cabbage wrap information. I told my husband and I was shocked he heard about it! The doc told him about it, but to use plastic to wrap it. So he thought it was wrong and he didn't bother to tell me. MEN can be very stubborn. BUT, we know now, or I should say I know now. So we will use that first and see what happens. Again thank you very much, from the bottom of my heart. He was giving up, now I will NOT let him. all my love, Laura
Cabbage
★★★★★
I am so greatful for coming across this site.
I have Lymphedema in my left leg calf area. Has had it for about 15 years now. The swelling started after treatment for a blood clot. Long story short, every year it seems to get bigger and on top of that, it don't help that I'm 460lbs. Anyway I come across this site full of good info because I was told as others were that there is really no cure.
I am doing the raw cabbage wrap every 2 days and drinking green tea 3 times a day. Every time I re-wrap, I tape measure my leg, in just 1 week and a half my leg have come down six and a half inches.
To God be the glory. I give all thanks to God. The Bible says my people parish for the LACK of knowledge. This web site has blessed me with knowledge that no medication could fix. Funny thing is, I'm not sure if it's the cabbage rap or green tea. Nonetheless after 15 years, it's working.
(Oro Valley, Az)
10/03/2013
I sure hope the cabbage wrap works. I found it next to impossible to use it on my feet, but I tried anyway.
I put the crushed leaves and my foot inside a plastic shopping bag, tried to cover the foot as best I could, tightening the plastic bag to help hold it all in place, then shoved everything into a long sock, repeating for the other foot. If someone has a better idea on how to accomplish this for feet, I'd be grateful to know it.
I feel as if it's really a test to see how gullible I am, but I am really desperate, and I have seen sillier things work just fine, while the stuff the doctors push on us doesn't work and has awful side effects. I will let everyone know how this works or not . I am also drinking green tea.
Cabbage
★★★★★
Totally outrageous sounding remedy, but 15 years of a leg that gets swollen to a point that's tight as a drum head is now reduced to half the size and flexible again after only 24 hours of a cabbage wrap. What a great find. Thanks everyone for the comments. O.K., so it sounds silly, but you can't argue with success. What a relief! Roy
Cabbage
★★★★★
(Vero Beach, Fl)
12/25/2012
I am suffering with Swelling and Burning and Redness in my Left foot and lower leg, My Heel and the bottom of my foot burn. I was treated by the doctor for 20 days for Cellulitis on strong antibiotic and it is back. What type of Cabbage leaves can I use and how do I do i? I really want to try it. Please.
(Phoenix, Arizona)
05/02/2013
Please provide more info re: type of cabbage, was it cold/warm/cooked/raw??? Also the green tea... Can it Be iced green tea? Any details would be appreciated. Going on 2 years of unilateral swelling in my left leg w/no answers. Bandaging reduced some but compression hose did not keep it down & it's swollen worse now than ever. Just got a pump which seems to help reduce at night but day time use, on my feet a lot, & heat of Phoenix brings the swelling back by end of day. Need a cure desperately so I can enjoy & keep up w/ my kids!
(Anon)
05/03/2013
Hi, I've read here posts from ladies with lymphoma as a result of having lymph nodes removed after breast surgery, they reported just drinking green tea all day, as long as you make it correctly with boiling water in the first place I wouldn't think it matters if you drink it hot or cold.
(Cleveland, Ohio)
10/05/2013
Hi everyone! I have lymphedema in my left leg and also a large fibrosis on my left thigh. I would do just about anything to get rid of both of these conditions. I have the cutest jeans hanging in my closet that I desperately want to get back into. I will definintely be trying the green tea and can anyone PLEASE tell me how I would do the cabbage wrap. What type of cabbbage... Should it be raw... What do I wrap me leg with... As much detailed information as possible. And if anyone has any suggestions on how to soften the fibrosis as well I would so greatly appreciate it... THANKS IN ADVANCE!
(Ontario, Canada)
10/06/2013
★★★★★
To Antoinette and Amy Joe.
I have used the cabbage leaves successfully but still need to do it again.
The best type of cabbage to use is Savoy cabbage. The dark green outer leaves that usually get thrown out is the best part to use as it is the most potent. Wash the leaves and remove the thick stems. Boil a large pot of water and drop the leaves in for one SECOND (although I put the leaves in then turned them over and removed immediately). The book says to roll the leaves with a rolling pin, instead I lay them on a clean tea towel and rolled them up then twisted the towel to crush the leaves. Then place the softened leaves on the area needing treatment and cover with cloth then wrap with ace bandages. Cover ace bandages with plastic wrap or plastic bags to help keep moisture in. Leave on 12 hours or more. Repeat as often as needed.
So you know, you will reek of cabbage and so will every room you spend time in. You will leave a trail behind you, but it will be worth it. It is best to apply the leaves in the evening then sleep with them on overnight. I hope you both have success with the cabbage. Please let us know how you do.
(Cleveland, Ohio)
10/16/2013
Thank you Maureen from Canada! I will give it a try. I pray it works as well for me as it has for others. Does anyone have any suggestions at all about how to get rid of the fibrosis that sometimes occurs with lymphedema. I have a large mass of fibrotic tissue on the back of my thigh and it is so unsightly and it keeps me from sitting and lying down comfortably. I would appreciate any suggestions at all.
(California)
08/23/2015
Tried first the white cabbage, then savoy..... Will try again, but so far did not see the difference.... Although I did not dip the leaves into the boiled water; instead, I poured water over the leaves.... I did not bandage the leaves - they were just held by my undergarments (I put them on my belly) - maybe there is a problem there... Like I said, I'll try again.... I hope this will work for me - I hate my swollen belly and the hip!
(Scotland)
03/25/2016
Hi,
I followed your instructions for cabbage wrap but took a really bad reaction when I took the bandages off :-( My skin was really red in places, not sure if reaction was to the cabbage or to the ace bandage :-( Has anyone else taken a reaction?
(Etobicoke, Ontario)
03/26/2016
To PMS Scotland, after I did quite a few cabbage poultices on my ankles, I got a rash type reaction across the front of my foot where the meets the leg joins the foot. It lasted about two weeks or so. The I had flexibility in that area the I never had before! It felt great! So I would say you are getting some old stuff out and getting a great result from the cabbage. I always hope for the same reaction again so I can get more relief but have not been so lucky.
Maureen
(Australia)
08/29/2017
Hello
I find that taking Two tablespoons of flaxseed oil mixed with enough cottage cheese to blend with it plus add some honey or salt to taste taken every day helps the fibrosius to soften. You can use this as a dressing for salads or take it with fruit or on bread/ You can feel the difference the next day when you touch it. Hope it works for you. God Bless.
Castor Oil
★★★★★
I saw mention here of someone who was going to try castor oil. I thought I'd give it a try too. I soaked paper napkins in the stuff, wrapped them around the leg. Then I wrapped plastic wrap around to cover and duct taped it in place. I covered that with dry napkins and taped in place. Then I got a disposable hand warmer and strapped it to the most swollen, painful part of the leg. After about 7 hours I took it off and noticed an improvement and a lot less pain. Now I do this every other day and every time I'm happy with the results. At the same time I started taking Doctors Best Vein Formula because it contains diosmin. Now, my leg is almost back to normal size. I can move around and it only starts getting painful if I'm on it all day. Even then, it's not too bad.
Cellulitis, Lymphedema and Strep Bacteria Connection
(Oregon)
08/15/2015
This completely makes sense. I have had Cellulitis a few years back and I have had Lymphedema since I was 25. In 2012 or so I learned that I have strep infection in my body when I was tested. I wasn't sick or anything but had special testing from a naturalist because I had no energy and weight gain. I'm hypothyroid and am wondering if there is some connection with the lymphedema and the strep infection. I'm always trying to find out what the "real" source is of the problem. Thank you for your thought.
Coffee Enemas
★★★★★
The first time I did a Coffeee Enema (C.E.), I was desperate. I was recently hospitalized with horrific, idiopathic lymphatic swelling. The condition was terribly painful. I had heard a friend mention the Gerson therapy in passing one day, and the use of coffee enemas. So after being discharged, I tried my usual remedies and didn't have any results. Then I thought to try the C.E.. I looked up instructions, got the supplies, first did a filtered water enema, then did the C.E.. After a C.E. I clean the bathroom and take a shower. So after my shower I noticed my swelling went down about 70%. I must also say, what expels from the body with a C.E. is far more substantial and disgusting (and strangely fascinating) than what expels with regular water.
I also get soreness, pain, and swelling in my legs from arthritis, and the C.E. will take all the swelling and pain away immediately.
Actually, it clears out any pain I have in my body. It's as though I can feel my body flushing out the lymph and inflammation. While holding the CE in, I can feel a light cramp form over any areas of pain/swelling I have. Then when I expel, the cramp turns into kind of a "rush" feeling, and all the pain leaves.
Any lymph swelling I experience goes down, my skin clears of any eczema and acne, I feel far more alert (days afterwards even), and I feel cleansed and lighter inside. I eat a very healthy diet with lots of raw fiber, but the enemas clear any bit of bloating (I didnt know my stomach could be so flat).
I'm so impressed by the results, I'm not ashamed to admit I do this. In fact, I spread the word to people I see suffering from serious chronic issues. I can totally see how the use of CE can successfully treat cancer.
Diabetic Cream
★★★★☆
I am now also a diabetic and my quack doctor says I have neuropathy but I believe it's the lymphedema acting up again. I wear shoes with Velcro instead of shoe laces and pull the Velcro as tight as I can get them giving me the relief that shoe laced shoes cannot do. I also use a cream on my feet and calves nightly called "neoteric Diabetic skin care" available from CVS pharmacy in the diabetic section of the store. This stuff works MIRACLES on my feet relieving the pain and the burn. I start rubbing the cream on my right foot and calf and by the time I start with rubbing the cream on the left foot the right foot is already subsiding from the burn and it's almost gone. I swear by this stuff if only a temporary fix.
I will start drinking the green tea and see if that helps in between the cream sessions as my insurance doesn't currently cover the cream and it's $10 a tube which lasts about a week at best and the lymphedema is progressively getting worse and the burn is the worse. Unlike so many others on here, I will let you know if it works.
Epsom Salt Cream
★★★★★
I use magnesium oil for a lot of things, but it's magnesium chloride and didn't do much for this. Epsom salts is magnesium sulfate. For some reason, it works.
General Feedback
(Ms)
09/13/2018
I think I have Lympledema in both my legs and they are red down on the lower part of my legs and pain and they swell really bad cant do what I wont to they hurt and someone was telling me that a person can get Ginger Oil and rub from your neck too your feet that opens up the Lymphatic systems.
I really need help I been to 20 doctors and they don't know what it is they think I am crazy but I do know that Butchers broom. ginger and sweet clover is great oil for the lymphat system so now I think at this point I am going to herb store and get my some and try it, anybody else know anything please let me know because the lower part of my leg gets really hard and it worrys me and help please.
(Poland)
10/07/2018
(GA)
11/19/2020
My lympedema specialist said you can develop hard cords and that if massaged deeply, they will burst and not come back. Look up cording and lympedema. Hasn't happened to me but he says he sees it all the time. I got a compression wrap for arm and hand and it made my hand worse than it ever was before.
Ginseng + Bumex
★★★★★
Hospital treatments endlessly employ harsh diuretics without even an attempt to supplement with herbal aids. I chose to investigate in the chinese herb direction and found TienChi Radix pseudo-ginseng to be very effective coupled with the diuretic: Bumex (bumetanide) a loop diuretic, available as scored tablets, 0.5 mg (light green), 1 mg (yellow) and 2 mg (peach) for oral administration.
Prepare TienChi Radix pseudo-ginseng as tea or lightly watercooked powder [rounded teaspoon in 8 oz standard serving oatmeal - sweetened to taste or mixed with peanut butter after cooked 10 minutes @ min. 100 degrees C [boiling@ sealevel] eaten once daily with usually breakfast.
It costed me USD $85 per US customary 16oz pound. The origin / source: PRC Yunnan Province; do not replace it or confuse with Korean, Japanese, American or Panax ginsengs as these are less or ineffective although cheaper. Pre-made extracts and teas are notably weak.
I eat raw fennel stalks and leaves [anise], parsely juice, alfalfa sprouts, baked or boiled unflavored red beets, fresh or canned asparagus, raw or boiled spinach, cultured probiotic milk foods and chicken livers with eggs; this constitutes most of my diet.
Results: under Nursing home oversight and full documentation, I have shed an average of 400ml of fluid hourly, more when the regimen began. I drink 51 fluid US customary ounces of direct oral water - roughly 1500ml restricted intake. I decreased from October 12, 2011: 469 pounds to [so far] 364 pounds on October 28, 2011, treatment is ongoing now as this is written. This heregoing I testify as a true report. -RSA 10-29-11
(Tennessee)
03/25/2017
Dear Alain,
Garlic is a great antiparasitic and antibiotic that is considered compatible with nursing.
I would try one clove of fresh garlic internally 4 times a day.
Also, vitamin C to support your immune system - 1,000 mg 3 times a day in the sodium ascorbate form.
Dandelion tea is good for the lymph system.
I would also do Epsom salt baths - 1 cup in a warm bath several times a week.
I hope you feel better soon! Let us know how it goes for you.
~Mama to Many~