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Sharing my experience with msg toxicity. Easy to narrow down the culprit, the only thing I ate that day was a clear soup with veggies, and a couple of dumplings. Husband was fine, he doesn't really have 'clean' diet. So his poisons are there, doing their long-term damage, but the immediate effects are hidden. Recall thinking this is too tasty to be just pork and spices. That day, nausea, lethargy, head pains. Bed early. Next morning, weakness, nausea, lethargy. Head pain, lower back pain. Concerned about kidneys. I am bedridden. Trying to drink enough water and resting. Think I just need rest. No. My entire four days off work I am ill. Finally forced to go Dr because I am due back at work.
Discussion with doctor, I have msg poisoning, head pain, lower back pain. I am worried about my kidneys. Educate doctor on excitotoxins, Dr says kidneys are fine, how does he know, he hasn't tested my kidneys, but explains no blood in urine, reason for pain is excitotoxins have attacked nerves. I am very relieved my kidneys are ok, and now know I need to restore my nerves. Offers antibiotics for virus, which we agree I don't have, antibiotics don't work for virus, and damage gut, and tells to take Ibuprofen, which damages gut. But he has forced my brain out of it's fog, because I've had to respectfully disagree with him.
Go straight to chemist, select least harmful vitamin c, (sorbitol but at least no aspartame) start chewing tablets in the store. 2000 mg to start. Then 1000 mg an hour. Then every half hour. 2000 mg. I eat them like lollies. It takes a day and a half to see improvement. And another day and half to be 'well'. Bowel tolerance was not reached at this high dose, further confirming depletion.
But the worst part of this poison was the effect it had on my brain, my thinking, which I did not know at the time. The reason I know my brain was affected, clouded? The answer lies in the Taurine and GABA, large containers, bought specifically for their msg neutralising properties, sitting in plain sight on the kitchen bench. I also could not think of the vitamin C, my go to, even though I was out and awaiting delivery. This is the scariest part, if msg can do this amount of damage to brain, nerves, immediately, what extent of damage over one's lifetime?!
Best to all looking for better health.
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Secondly, consider what people will do for money. Corporate America is full of corruption. That's not to say that all is bad, any more than all of government is bad. But more often than not, corporate executives spend their day trying to figure out how to justify their jobs. So if they can find a way to make more money, they will. If it involves food additives that make you eat more, they don't care, as long as it's padding their pocket. This is the absolute truth: MSG IS hidden under other names. There are contracts in place that prevent disclosure of "secret" ingredients. So go on thinking that the government will protect with it's regulations if that's what you think. But when you come up with cancer, you'll be on your own. The government won't be there to help you.
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What I hope for, in the future, is more understanding from others - friends and relatives - who don't feel msg effects (yet). Really, I'm not nutty. I don't want to seem rude or ungrateful. I just want to feel healthy. Really I would love to eat that soy sauce soaked, surgared up Galbi beef - but I know, from too much past experience, that the dizziness, confusion, aching joints, swollen fingers, dead feeling stomach (for the next 3-5 days), migraine, incontenince, and rash or hives --- just isnt' worth it. :)
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You recipe sounds delish - however one problem... those chicken "flavoured" ramen noodles are chock FULL of MSG.
I had the worst reaction ever after eating them. I love the taste, but they make me sick as a dog.
Just saying, anyone who has issues with nerve toxins and wants to stay away from MSG should not eat this!
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This almost threw me off track, until I thought to ask him what he used instead of soap. He replied that he didn't remember the name of it but it was some kind of medicated cream. I then suggested that he try leaving off soap again and not using any thing instead. He was surprised when told to just use a thick, wash cloth and water when bathing, nothing else, but agreed to give it a try. Several days later when he was next on call, he came in with the smoothest complexion and very happy with it.
People who forgo the use of soap also find that they have less body odor and attract fewer insect bites.
Again, on headaches, remove the cause, instead of looking for a cure. Aspartame (Nutrisweet) is well known for causing headaches. So is Monosodiumglutamate. If you want to find some other things they can cause, type in Excitotoxins, and hit search. For those who think MSG is only found in stir-fried (Chinese foods), make a list of the names MSG is hidden under in the ingredients list, then go into your kitchen and see how many of your foods have one or more of them listed in the ingredients.
Classic example is the 15% chicken broth that may be contained in a well-known brand of raw chicken that you must take home and cook...The MSG isn't mentioned because they didn't add MSG - they added chicken broth which contained the MSG.....Learn to protect yourself and your loved ones by learning these legal loop-holes. Oh, yes, you will also learn that that they are named excitotoxins because they excite the neural cells (Brain & Central nervous system) to death.
If you also research meta-bolic syndrome X (now called insulin resistance) by orthodox medicine) you will also find that excitotoxins are the same things that cause insulin resistance which ends up as full fledged Diabetes Mellitus,Type 2 which used to be called DM, adult onset, but was renamed to DM type 1 for juvenile onset and type 2 for adult onset, because children (even toddlers, are now developing type 2. So be your own health defender by learning all the names the excitotoxins are hidden under, stop buying these products, and write the supplier telling them why you aren't buying their product. You will only have to make one list because the excitotoxins are the same ones that makes us kick out excess insulin, proceed through insulin resistance, then to full fledged DM, type 2 and all of its complications.
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My husband's best friend has a daughter who used to work at Arby's and at the time she worked there they did not use real beef.
I learned the hard way that the gallbladder needs saturated fat to contract.
You could be reacting to any combination of things...even the bread because GMO's are in fruits, vegetables and whole grains. I do not believe anyone can legitimately claim "non-GMO" just due to wind and bird droppings. This makes assimilation difficult. Degrees of infiltration will vary.
There is a list of hidden sources of MSG @ www.truthinlabeling.org
There is a book called, "A Consumer's Dictionary of Food Additives" by Ruth Winter, M.S. that is very good...not 100% but is informative if you can obtain a copy.
I truly hope you find some answers that help you. It has taken me over two decades of piecemeal learning by the process of elimination how toxic our entire food supply has become.
KT
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I went to get my health check for my driving license - required in U.A.E. for anyone over sixty
Night before I'd been at the company Christmas splash, drank a bit, ate a lot of fancy food in a swanky hotel...in the morning I felt a bit woozy, but nothing an expreso couldn't fix
So they took my blood pressure.. normally if I drink, morning-after it's 140/90
It was 190/120
Crazy
I didn't feel bad particularly, but the doctor wasn't going to give me a "Medical Fitness Certificate", and he had that look they get when they think they will need to talk to the loved-ones soon.
My wife had noticed I came back from work with a red face for the past few weeks...coincided with opening of a Pakistani Restaurant near us, she said I was drinking too much, I said "don't worry"
190/120 is so, something...I got freaked out - didn't drink...in a day my BP went down to 147/100...that must have been it!!
Next day, went to lunch at the Pakistani restaurant that just opened up near where I work...came home at 18:00...BP 170/110
Thinks...Could it NOT be the drink? Perhaps it's the food from the Pakistani restaurant...VERY TASTY
Goes on internet...remembers sensitivity to MSG in the past
So they say the cure is drink in liters 3%-to-5% of body weight (one liter = 1 kilo) to flush out the glutamate
That causes arteries to constrict...so BP goes up, so I did that
Then I figured..."alcohol dilates arteries"...I drank 1/4-bottle of whisky
BP went down to 130/90 in two hours
Glad to know I'm not dying
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I started thinking about fast foods and MSG after talking about MSG with a fellow ECer. Quite a while back I realized that after I stopped eating MSG for a month or so - if I ate at Arby's - the roast beef in their sandwich had so much MSG in it that it actually made the tip of my tongue hurt! Funny, I had never noticed it before. The web said that Arby's took out MSG a decade ago. Well, they may have taken out MSG, but there is something going by another name that is MSG in that meat as far as my tongue is concerned!
KFC is also a huge user of MSG and does the same thing to me. There is actually so much added to the chicken coating that I can "feel" it on my tongue.
I hardly ever eat any fast food anymore. It seems to be in almost everything.
I believe that the addictive nature of the chemicals / high fructose corn syrup (a GMO item) and MSG are responsible for the obesity and poor health of Americans today.
I am 50. When I was a child I do not recall there being more than 2 or 3 kids in my entire grade school who were overweight. Look around you the next time you are out in a crowd.... It is shocking how obese we are as a society. Don't even get me started on the rate of childhood diabetes these days!
My opinion - ALL are due to the additives in fast and processed foods!
I don't have a severe, life threatening allergy to this nerve excito-toxin called MSG, thank God. I don't know how people who do even cope. I just get a pounding headache a few hours after eating an offending food item, which can last anywhere from a day to three, - depending on how much I ingested - which is total misery.
Anyway, just a few random thoughts and a cool website I thought I would throw out there.
Carly :)
As avoidance from food additives can be unproductively restrictive, I always keep my pocket size Vit. Bottle on hand while eating out. Here's a good protocol to protect the body from these nasty foreigners: before you even enter the parking lot of the restaurant take 1grm Vit-C (preferably w/ bioflavonoids), while eating take 1 or 2 whole food multi, selenium, CoQ10 or Ubiquinone, fish oil, and any superfood antioxidant ( I am currently taking "Grapeseed/GreenTea/PineBark Extract" in caps). There are some really good flavonoid rich superberry complex extracts available in tabs or caps.
As one ages (as if I really need to reiterate this), these nutrients become increasingly necessary or total avoidance of additives would be necessary. This fact is probably how these unhealthy yet stimulatory agents are allowed in our foods to begin with. Whatever studies are done probably don't include people over 40 or 50. So, many or most folks of the younger ilk slam this stuff down and go buzzing right along (they actually like its stimulation on the palette and brain).
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"U.S. food regulators and chemical companies are intentionally making it difficult to avoid M.S.G., by using other names to hide its presence in ingredients lists. Yes, they really are trying to dumb us down, and these deceptions are allowed as a matter of official policy."
"Common Names Used To Hide M.S.G. In Ingredients Lists
Gelatin
Calcium Caseinate
Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein (HVP)
Textured Protein
Monopotassium glutamate
Hydrolyzed Plant Protein (HPP)
Yeast Extract
Sodium Glutamate
Glutamate
Autolyzed Plant Protein
Yeast Food
Yeast Nutrient
Glutamic Acid
Sodium Caseinate
Autolyzed Yeast
Vegetable Protein Extract
Soy Protein
Hydrolyzed Corn Gluten
Natural Flavor *
Artificial Flavor
Spice *
Senomyx **
* Since the F.D.A. has intentionally left "Natural Flavor" and "Spice" without meaningful definitions, the chemical companies freely use these names to hide the presence of toxins in your foods. The system works this way by design.
** Senomyx -- We are not going to report what this chemical is, because you would have trouble believing us. Read about it yourself, and stay away from it. Naturally, the F.D.A. has awarded it a G.R.A.S. (Generally Recognized As Safe) rating, with it only having been "scientifically" tested by its manufacturer (wink). Now get this, for here comes the real kicker: this stuff is going to be marketed to the health-conscious consumers in much the same way that canola oil has been. Are there any doubts remaining about what the real agenda is?"
"[MSG's] commercial use is permitted only due to its marketing before the 1958 Food Additive Amendments to the Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act, which in effect grandfathered hundreds of substances which had never been tested for safety, including MSG..."
"Certain neuroscientists have, for years, warned that consumption of neurotoxic amino acids (glutamic acid, aspartic acid, and L-cysteine) place consumers at risk -- with most risk to newborns and young children whose immature blood-brain barriers leave them less well protected than more mature people. There is now additional and growing concern on the part of neuroscientists that the glutamate that we eat may cause or exacerbate neurodegenerative diseases such as ALS, Parkinson's disease, and Alzheimer's disease."
"Industry has begun to proliferate products with the words 'No MSG', 'No Added MSG', or 'No MSG Added' on product labels when the products contain hydrolyzed protein (which invariably contains MSG) -- a practice that is clearly in violation of existing FDA regulations. Hidden MSG is not limited to use in food. MSG sensitive people have reported reactions to soaps, shampoos, hair conditioners, and cosmetics that contain hidden MSG. The most obvious common hiding places are in ingredients called 'hydrolyzed protein' and 'amino acids'. Drinks, candy and chewing gum are also potential sources of hidden MSG... Binders and fillers for medications, nutrients, and supplements, both prescription and non-prescription, including internal feeding materials and some fluids administered intravenously in hospitals, may contain MSG. Reactions to MSG are dose related, i.e., some people react to even very small amounts of MSG while others usually only react to relatively more. MSG-induced reactions may occur immediately after contact or after as much as 48 hours."
-- Aspartame Poisoning Information Canada
"The Documented Effects Of M.S.G. Consumption
- Epilepsy
- Vision Disturbances
- Panic Attacks
- Heart Attacks
- Parkinson's Disease
- Huntington's Disease
- ALS (Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis)
- Alzheimer's Disease
- Brain Lesions
- Retina Damage
- Obesity
- Food Cravings
- Depleted Nutrients
- Hyperinsulinemia
- Stunted Growth
- Crosses Into The Fetus
- Ocular (Eye) Destruction
- Liver Damage
- Diabetes
- Kidney Damage
- Vastly increased chance of ADD,ADHD, Asperger's or Autism
- Severe Headache
- Shortness Of Breath
- Chest Pains
- Asthma
- Slowed Speech
- Gastrointestinal Disturbances
- Swelling
- Numbness of Hands, Feet, or Jaw
- Chronic Bronchitis
- Allergy Reactions
- Irregular Heart Beat
- Unstable Blood Pressure
- Pain in Joints or Bones
- Abrupt Mood Changes
- Tingling in Face or Chest
- Pressure Behind Eyes
- Difficulty Swallowing
- Anxiety Attacks
- Explosive Rages
- Balance Problems - Dizziness or Seizures
- Mini-Strokes
- Fibromyalgia
- MS
- Tenderness in localized areas, neck, back, etc.
- Chronic Post Nasal Drip
- Sleep Disorders
- Blurred Vision
- Chronic Fatigue
- Extreme thirst or Dry Mouth
- Hypoglycemia
- Difficulty Concentrating and Poor Memory"
Information from:
http://healthwyze.org/index.php/neutralizing-msg.html
One of the best ways to remove or neutralize MSG from your body is to supplement with Taurine. This is a required amino acid for your body that is non-toxic and easy to purchase. Taurine completely neutralizes the effects of MSG.
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Many are unaware or not that interested in gaining more knowledge about the foods that we eat and the products that we buy. For many of us, the assumption has been that if the food item is available at a market or in a restaurant, it must be safe to eat. But that may no longer be the case.
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In the long run, MSG has not been proven to negatively affect human health. Still, that's of little comfort to the millions of people who experience the MSG symptom complex, a wide array of immediate symptoms associated with consumption of MSG. Briefly these include headaches and migraine, heart palpitations, profuse sweating, dizziness, brain fog, and respiratory issues.
Unfortunately, it can take a long time for those who are sensitive to monosodium glutamate to recognize that their symptoms are related to consumption. This is especially true for two reasons; first that MSG is among the food industry's favorite food additives, and second that they hide it under a literally dizzying array of alternate names.
If you are looking for MSG or glutamic acid on your food labels, here are a few of the terms you should be searching for: MSG, glutamic acid, glutamate, (or any variation on all the previous), yeast extract, hydrolyzed items, and soy or whey protein.
Plus a few good internet resources with lengthier lists:
http://www.msgtruth.org/avoid.htm
http://www.truthinlabeling.org/hiddensources.html
Some people have more glutamate receptors in the brain than GABA receptors, and these will have a hard time with whey. There is a brand out there that is not denatured, but I still wouldn't eat it.
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According to the Truth in Labeling website, here's how you inquire about MSG:
http://www.truthinlabeling.org/nomsg.html
"If you want to find out if there is processed free glutamic acid (MSG) in a product, you must ask the manufacturer for information about "free glutamic acid." Don't ask about "MSG." Manufacturers find it convenient, when speaking to consumers, to tell them that there is no "MSG" in their product, meaning that there is no ingredient called "monosodium glutamate." Even if a manufacturer tells you there is no MSG in a product, there may be autolyzed yeast, hydrolyzed pea protein, carrageenan, sodium caseinate, enzymes, and a whole slew of other ingredients that contain or create processed free glutamic acid (MSG) during manufacture.
If you are told that all of the MSG in a product is "naturally occurring," thank the manufacturer for that meaningless information, but explain that all processed free glutamic acid (MSG) is referred to as "natural" by the FDA -- so "natural" tells you nothing. In fact, as the word "natural" is defined by the FDA, the food ingredient "monosodium glutamate" is "natural."
It is the amount of processed free glutamic acid in the product that will determine whether or not you might suffer an MSG reaction. If the manufacturer claims not to know whether or not there is processed free glutamic acid (MSG) in his or her product, ask that the product be analyzed for free amino acids, including free glutamic acid. There are tests for measuring free glutamic acid. The AOAC Official Methods of Analysis (1984) gives one method. There are others. The cost of testing should be no more than $100...
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Makes 3 Cups
Combine in saucepan:
1/3 c. unbrominated, unbleached, unenriched, natural white flour
1/2 c. sugar
1 t. salt
Add: 3/4 c. water
1/2 c. white vinegar
Cook over low heat, stirring until thickened. Remove from heat and pour into blender. While beating, add:
2 cloves garlic
2 whole eggs
Continue beating and slowly add:
2/3 c. salad oil
Chill before serving.
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Exceptions to this regulation as stated in the Code of Federal Regulations are 1) where the food is presented without a label such as in a restaurant or eating establishment ? this will also apply to "to go" or "take out" orders; 2) in a general grocery store where the product is prepared at the store level and is sold as a RTE (Ready to Eat) item, as in products sold at the deli counter.
I suspect the reason for labeling some things, especially products label "Organic" as "MSG Free" is to achieve the marketing impact reaction of, "well, then if it doesn't say 'MSG Free' it must contain MSG."
The reference cites for my basic argument are listed below -
From the FSIS (Food Safety and Inspection Service) FAQ web-site:
What substances or ingredients can be listed as "natural flavor," "flavor," or "flavorings" rather than by a specific common or usual name?
Ingredients such as ginger, black pepper, onion powder, garlic powder, celery powder, and garlic oil may be listed as one of the three categories mentioned above. They may be designated as "natural flavors" because they are substances used chiefly for flavor. They do not make a nutritional contribution, are not derived from an animal species, and there are no health concerns linked to them.
How will I know if there is monosodium glutamate (MSG) in a processed meat or poultry product?
MSG is classified as a flavor enhancer by Federal regulation. When it is added to a product, it must be identified as "monosodium glutamate" on the label.
The actual cites for the FDA regulation are in the Federal Code of Regulations - 21 CFR 101.22; Natural Flavors is covered in subpart a(1, 2 and 3) and monosodium glutamate is covered in subpart h(5).
For FSIS there are two cites for the regulations: Meat (Beef, Lamb, Veal, Pork, others) 9 CFR 317.2; Poultry (Chicken, Duck, Turkey, Goose, others) 9 CFR 381.118.
Also listed in the USDA Food Standards and Labeling Policy Book is a section as below. Though the Labeling Policy Book indicates that these statements are "voluntary", trust me when I say that if an ingredient is one of the "big 8 allergens", specifically monosodium glutamate, it will be on the label.
D. Labeling of Ingredients of Public Health Concern
Because there are foods and food ingredients to which some individuals may have a sensitivity (i.e., an allergic reaction or intolerance), FSIS emphasizes the importance of accurate, informative product labeling. FSIS supports including voluntary statements on labels to alert people who have sensitivities or intolerances to the presence of specific ingredients, particularly the "big 8" allergens (wheat, crustaceans (e.g., shrimp , crab, lobster), eggs, fish, peanuts, milk, tree nuts (e.g., almonds, pecans, walnuts), and soybeans) and other specific ingredients (monosodium glutamate (MSG), sulfites, lactose, and Yellow 5 (tartrazine). FSIS provides the following example: "Contains: milk, wheat gluten, soy." FSIS further supports identifying the source of a specific ingredient in a parenthetical statement, (e.g., "whey (from milk)".)
There are always people who will do things illegally, but my position is based on the law.
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The fact that they haven't attacked Dr. Blaylock personally at this time tells me that he is right in suspecting that they are attacking those helping him get the word out instead, because they know he can prove their lies in court and when that happens, their goose is cooked and they know it.
I wonder if we could get a good class action lawsuit going against the suppliers of monosodium glutamate & aspartame? I would love to see that happen. I know a lot of people who would love to join in that suit.
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The doctors have mainly given me cortisone to put on my skin. Now I just found out that I have a blood clot in my eye. I know it has something to do with excitotoxins or my overuse of cortisone. I always gain alot of weight during my reaction times. Is it the toxins or the corts causing that. Someone knows but any research out there is buried. $$ I saw an author interviewed on late night comedy channel and he nailed it when he said that our society has gone over the edge in that only corporate $$ values rule.
Question, what to do, I do not want any syndrome, I just want to be healthy.
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"Commercialization...
Senomyx has four savory flavor ingredients that were discovered and developed in-house and have received regulatory approval in the U.S. and many additional countries. Nestlé is currently marketing products that contain one of Senomyx's Savory Flavor Ingredients in the Pacific Rim and Latin America.
Collaborations...
Senomyx has entered into product discovery and development collaborations with seven of the world's leading food, beverage, and ingredient supply companies:
Ajinomoto Co., Inc., Cadbury plc, Campbell Soup Company, The Coca-Cola Company, Firmenich SA, Nestlé SA and Solae. These collaborations provide Senomyx with research and development funding, milestone payments based upon achievement of research or development goals, and royalties on sales of products incorporating our flavor ingredients. We are primarily responsible for the discovery, development and regulatory approval of our new flavor ingredients, while each collaborator will bear the costs and responsibilities for manufacturing, marketing, selling and distributing its consumer products that contain Senomyx flavor ingredients. This arrangement is intended to allow Senomyx to benefit from our collaborators' brand recognition, global market presence, established sales and distribution channels, and other industry specific expertise.
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Our food sources are coming more and more from a few sources and more and more have things in them (like medicines) which are not good for your health.
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It would be a lot safer to take L-Glutamine, which is a close cousin of the Monosodium glutamate, but doesn't have the brain damaging effects of the sodium attached to the glutamine molecules. The L-Glutamine has immune supporting effects and protect against cold. Adding l-glutamine with freshly cooked chicken soup (never canned), which is cysteine rich, with added vinegar would have been a better safer alternative. L-Glutamine is popularly used by body builders to reduce fat, but increase muscle mass, while monosodium glutamate does the opposite, by stimulating the appetite, but yet causes morbid obesity in rat studies, decrease growth and endocrine damages, so well known in many rat studies. A remedy for this cold require about two of L glutamine, with freshly cooked chicken soup and plenty of vinegar (or apple cider vinegar).
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A good rememdy for all these skin things is a 125 watt clear infrared bulb. Not only will this clear up the skin but is great for any aches and it healed my son of acute asthma. Asthma requires a one hour treatment 1-2 times daily or more. The more you use it the quicker it heals. The only draw back is having to stay stationary so long. My husband hasn't had time to sit under it the past two days so he is still in bad shape. He started on the vinegar and honey last night to see if a change in body pH will help.
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