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I have found this formula to be helpful with pain and arthritis in my hands.
Hungary water (sometimes called "the Queen of Hungary's Water", Eau de la Reine de Hongary, or "spirits of rosemary") was one of the first alcohol-based perfumes/liniment/elixir in Europe, primarily made with rosemary. The oldest surviving recipes call for distilling fresh rosemary and thyme with brandy (vodka modern way), while later formulations contain wine, lavender, mint, sage, marjoram, costus (true ginger), orange blossom and lemon.
According to legend, it was formulated at the command of the Queen Elizabeth of Hungary, sometimes identified as Queen Isabella of Hungary or in one document "Saint Elisabeth, Queen of Hungary". Some sources say that a hermit, witch or monk-recluse first gave it to the Queen of Hungary, though most likely it was made by a monk-alchemist or a band of roaming gypsies. The water was given to the queen in order to help her headaches, and is a cure for rheumatism or gout which the queen suffered in her old age or as a rejuvenation treatment. These legends mostly date to the early to mid-17th century, so the details may have become confused in the intervening centuries.
Ingredients: (Original Recipe from 1370 A.D.)
- 4 tablespoon rosemary
- 4 tablespoon thyme
- Vodka (750ml – 80 proof) to cover
Method:
1. Pour all the herbs into a one quart widemouthed glass mason jar
2. Add vodka to jar; close the jar tight and let it sit in a warm spot for 6 weeks or longer shaking occasionally (Hippocrates states both herbs must be steeped for a minimal of 6 weeks)
3. Strain out the herbs with a fine mesh – try and get all the bits out
4. Re-bottle the mixture and store in a cool, dry place
How to use:
I put this mixture into a spray bottle and spray topically on my hands at nite before bed. You will see a huge difference in your hands if repeated daily. The early recipes advise the user to also drink the tonic (though I would definitely say that you check with your doctor on that first! ).
Cinnamon and Honey
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For debilitating osteoarthritis where bilateral hip surgery is scheduled & the only "apparent" answer according to mainstream...
I am on my second dose of honey cinnamon right now. I did not need my crutches when I got up in the middle of the night -- bathroom break awoke me not pain.
Made another cup & will report back. I hope this helps someone else with joint pain.
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I have been using an organic molasses for years with no issue. Recently I tried a different big-name brand because it had a higher iron content, and I developed abdominal cramping/discomfort and chest pains. After a few days it went away, but resuming the molasses causes them to return. I suspect the new molasses may be especially high in selenium as previously I had similar discomfort after taking selenium supplements.
Best of luck.
Apple Cider Vinegar
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Diet and Exercise
Did you try DMSO? I read a lot of positive things about it!
Diet and Exercise
I'm catching up on reading Earth Clinic and your query from 2 days ago. From my experience, the biggest determiner of whether I'll wake up with joint pain is refined sugar. I don't usually eat it, but I happen to have been on a 2 day binge. This morning, I am hurting.
To calm things down, I've got a jar of bone broth thawing. It is homemade. I can't speak for the store shelf kind, but I have read the labels and don't see calcium in there (How is that possible?). A cup or 2 of bone broth over the next 3 to 4 days is what I will use to turn this around. That and no more sugar.
I make broth with roasted venison bones when I have them, but a good quality hen carcass adds a lot more collagen gel. I have never been bothered by nightshades and lately I take the easy route of using a cup of jarred pasta sauce to flavor a batch of broth. It seems to work as well as when I spend half an hour chopping vegetables. We eat from our garden and I take a walk or a paddle almost every day. I do appreciate the Mediterranean diet and always enjoy Michael's posts, but when cooking, I use the fats suggested by Dr. Terry Wahls instead.
Osteoarthritis pain is no fun. I hope you are successful in finding your answers.
Diet and Exercise
you have my sympathies regarding the perceived complexity of the advice regarding the implementation of an anti-arthritis treatment protocol!
However, we must think positively and note that there are so many foods one can turn to whilst moving ourselves towards a diet that causes us less pain and suffering.
The difficulty we have in the "West" is that we have gone down the wrong road in the past and now the chickens have come home to roost as it were and for a restoration of balance to take place, there is no quick fix-sorry, no magic bullet and your doctor / pharma giant will not "cure" you. Not fair I know but the answer is in our own hands if we remain focused and determined. Bodies can be re-built over time-good mantra to remember and treasure!
If you are young (lucky you! ) you will often times see results more quickly.
So, what to do? For sage guidance, switching gradually to the Mediterranean Diet would be a sensible starting point as an antidote to our present poor nutrition regime of too much meat, sugar (public enemy number one in my humble opinion), simple carbohydrates, fizzy drinks, alcohol etc etc - you get the picture?
The human body is a marvelous machine but eventually too much self- abuse will cause it to rebel by letting you know it through pain and suffering of the joints, bones, ligaments and muscles etc - the response will manifest itself in differing ways between individuals - some get IBS say but not others....
Having moved successfully to the MD (Mediterranean Diet) then one should seriously self-evaluate whether or not some components are "fit for purpose".
Should you cut out all that pasta for example? What about those nightshades - leave them alone maybe?
Beans can give you gas, so what is that doing to your intestines?
The above are all ingredients in the MD that we need not necessarily kick into touch but one needs to seriously listen to one's own body and be much more self-aware than we maybe have been in the past. This business requires a whole attitude shift on our part if we are to achieve a pain free future (any reduction would be a blessing though! ).
Lastly (I could rave on and you might fall asleep) a person could do worse than take a digestive enzyme pill or two to aid the metabolism of the evening meal. These little marvels should assist you with the assimilation of fats, carbohydrates, proteins and even raw foods! Well worth serious consideration!
Here we get help with bloating, intestinal gas, wind (lovely euphemism), discomfort and digestive issues after meals. They are also purported to replace the enzymes lost in cooking, which is a nice bonus - I am a big fan of enzymes - the forgotten nutrients. Just because you can't see them doesn't mean they are not there! Need to be kept in the fridge.
Lastly, you do not need to give up fats - they are no longer considered the main enemy. Also, consider all the info readily available on this wonderful Site regarding changing from an acidic body towards a more alkaline one.
Drink more H2O - become a wet person.
Cheers and good luck with your health restoration journey.
Michael from Down Under
Diet and Exercise
Some sources are suggesting no any kind of meat, no fats, no milk and etc. But others are suggesting healthy fats, proteins, fermented milk products. I understand the diet should be 100% healthy - no refined sugar, no fast foods, coke, but for the rest I really need the suggestions and personal experience.
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Blessings,
Mary M.
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Bangkok, Thailand
02/01/2013
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The problem is most people have consumed fructose, mostly coming from honey and fructose from fruits in the belief that it prevents or cures cancer. The truth is directly the opposite. I have found that in all my patients especially honey was consumed before they had cancer, and they continued to do so. As cancer cells produce HCG, the cancer cells try to feed themselves causing insulin resistance. This prevents healthy cells from getting fed, causing the person to be weak. The person got weak not because of cancer. There are honey recipes out there to treat cancer. This is disinformation and should be avoided at all cost, including manuka honey, organic honey, etc.
Lysine, zinc, green tea, N acetyl cysteine and vitamin C are at the top of the list of cancer remedies, as I found most cancer patients to be deficient in them. To stop cancer from growing cobalt ascorbate can be taken by mixing 1 to 5 mg together with vitamin B12 with sodium ascorbate. Sodium ascorbate is done by mixing vitamin C ascorbic acid with baking soda until the fizz is less, then you mix in vitamin B12. Both lysine and cobalt will stop the progression and metastatic cancer.
While I do not know the status or details of your mother, B complex deficiency usually needs to be addressed and vitamin C should be taken throughout the day, especially the sodium ascorbate form. Lysine and N acetyl cysteine are ideally taken every hour for 4 hours in a row twice a day. The immune system will pick up and some effects may be seen the first two days as white blood cells try to eat up the cancer. The person usually improves after 3 days. Meanwhile, blood sugar must be kept under control. Keep it below 100 mg/dL. Cancer is mostly caused from a fructose diet (honey, fruits, and high fructose corn syrup).
Death from cancer comes mostly from three things, cancer cachexia (loss of appetite), morphine (by lowering immune system) and chemo (side effects). You generally don't die from cancer, per se. If we compared, in nearly all cancers most of the decline in health is from the chemo. Some doctors are careful to watch for white blood cells not to go down, when giving chemo, but the problem is chemo causes white blood cells to go down.
Appetite may be increased generally by taking hydrochloric acid concentrate, with between 4 to 6 drops added to 250 cc of water to convert pepsinogen to pepsin so you can digest the food. Digestive enzymes help, especially pancreatic enzymes, specifically the chymotrypsin, to digest the cancer, and bromelain (pineapple enzymes). B50 (b complex) three times a day and vitamin C ascorbic acid will further the digestion too, by supporting the liver, as well as N acetyl cysteine, and selenium to detox the liver, as precursors to glutathione.
This is as simple as I can make it to get initial improvement.
Ted
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Cetyl Myristoleate Supplement
Cetyl Myristoleate Supplement
Urine Therapy
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For those who can not tolerate oral borax or are otherwise opposed to oral borax, Borax Lotion can act as an effective substitute applied topically. Here is a link to how to make it:
https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/art-solbrig-topical-arthritis-lotion.html
Btw, I recently found out that this also works for other arthritic areas of the body as mentioned by a friend of mine who was testing it on her arthritic knees and wrists which were painfully swollen, so it is not limited to just the hands!
Art
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Since it's cheaper I started taking the borax powder more recently. I did get nauseous taking 1/8tsp, so I cut it back to 1/16tsp. I'll try 1/8tsp again after a few weeks.
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I told her about the honey and Blackstrap Molasses post I saw here as well, she's just ecstatic about the pain being gone. She is 76 and had this for about 20 years at least.
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For the past few years, I've been developing bumps on the top bony joints of both index fingers. In my research I've discovered they appear to be Heberden's Nodes – they're bony swellings that form on your hands as a result of osteoarthritis. And they make using that finger or fingers incredibly painful. Starting earlier this spring the one on my left hand was really bothering me, couldn't use it, had to be conscious of not using it for anything or the pain would shoot through me. (ever try to function without your index fingers? it's very challenging).
In the last few months, I've also been getting foot cramps in the middle of the night. Wake-up-cry-out-loud-foot/toe-twisting foot cramps. (I know, I need to drink more water too).
For foot cramps, I use magnesium oil for almost immediate relief. I also use magnesium oil on my legs for my restless legs. In an effort to be proactive in the last few weeks I've been rubbing magnesium lotion on my feet and massaging them for a few minutes each night before bed. I found this great lotion that's cocoa butter with magnesium oil. Or I use my MSM lotion and mix it with my spray mag oil. Like a lightbulb going on the other day, I realized my finger hasn't hurt me in a few weeks. Hasn't hurt AT ALL. Magnesium to the rescue....
AGAIN. I use it for so many things, I don't know how people can live without it. I hope everyone tries it, it has so many uses. I wasn't even using it on purpose for my fingers, but I got results as a side effect of trying to fix my feet. Sweet!
Dietary Changes
Wow! I'm learning a lot here. Next time I start hurting, I will step up my game!
Thanks for your response,
Iowama
Dietary Changes
Fantastic that some people are responding to older postings when they feel they have something to offer each other-wonderful community here on Earth Clinic! I got advised of your recent posting to-day even though my relevant posting was late last year! Thanks for that interest.
My story is a bit similar to your story of your journey with arthritis. There are apparently hundreds of types of arthritis out there, so it is pretty darn likely that the majority of us will have at least one type pay us a call in our lifetimes, especially as some of us are living longer than we used to (if you get my meaning) and therefore opening ourselves up to elderly maladies.
As our Good Doctor famously opined a few years ago, “I'll get to see all of you folks come through these doors eventually”! Ha! “One thing about old age is that it doesn't last long” he said, cheerful fellow but I suppose you need a sense of humour if you are going to be a doctor in this day and age.
You may possibly be interested to check out my looong list of reported treatments for arthritis(es) here on Earth Clinic.
However, a more targeted response (gleaned from this Site and trial and error), I have found to be as follows. This is helping me but has not “cured” me. Nevertheless, I am grateful for the pain relief I think the following regime has brought me over the last several months.
Upon rising, I do the oil pulling with coconut oil and occasionally olive oil (for a bit of variety).
On an empty stomach, I mix baking soda with lime OR lemon juice in a glass of freshly boiled and cooled water. Our rainwater goes through three filters but I still boil for this job. I could use warm water from the tap but my mummy told me not to years ago, even for cleaning my teeth in a cold climate! A half hour later, and after breakfast, I take a fish oil tablet, two alfalfa tablets along with a vitamin C tablet. In addition, I take an enhanced Turmeric/Curcumin tablet and I am fairly confident that this latter one is the Magic Bullet in my case. These little darlings take from about one week to one month to kick in and while they will probably not reverse the damage sustained over a lifetime of hectic, careless living, they seem to tackle the pain factor pretty well in my case.
I confess to having a couple of cups of coffee each day and that could be a tad acidic but I enjoy them and they keep me “grounded”. I still try my best to alkalise, eat more vegetables, drink more fluids to wash out the dross, & have cut out gluetin over the past four months etc etc. I'll be a good boy one day but it's exhausting! Time was, I just poked things into my mouth without analysing!
After (or during) the evening meal, I take my ACV and this has certainly helped my (former) digestive issues considerably. Straight away, it took away the gas and it probably assists the digestion of an older person anyway. It can assist in an alkalizing programme of course. Many reasons why it could be useful to take on a regular basis. Also, regular gardening and walking work for me. Positive outlook!?
On an ad-hoc basis I will take some magnesium chloride liquid in a glass of water, will increase my water consumption even further, especially if I am doing a lot of outdoor work, take my Boron supplement, enjoy an Epsom salts foot soak and put some gelatin(e) into my tea or coffee. If parts get too sore, I resort to my Soothe Cream that I have mentioned on this site before by slipping it under our Dear Leader's Radar (no mean feat! ).
A smoothie I like goes as follows: take half a cup of orange juice, half a cup of apple juice, one cup of water, 2 cups of diced pineapple, 100gms of organic gelatin(e), one cinnamon stick and a dash of organic honey(to taste).
Add the above (except the water) to the blender until you see a homogeneous mixture. You can then add the water. If you wish to stiffen it up you can stick it into the ‘fridge. When it becomes jellified you can begin to take a spoonful regularly.
Cheers & thanks, Michael
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When I first started daily use of a tea made with ACV, it helped. I was in my early 50s then and had ended a career in hands on horticulture. I too woke up with aching hands in the night. I'm closer to 60 now and no longer drink that tea, because other things have helped more. I make bone broth to drink and to cook with. I really believe in that broth as a great help for arthritis! I strive to eat no sugar, gluten, or soy. I only eat Irish butter (higher fat content than US butter) and some goat products for dairy, but am cognizant that too much dairy can cause inflammation. I try to eat 7-9 cups of colored vegetables or berries per day. drink plenty of water, and limit alchohol. I take a B complex, magnesium, potassium, CoQ10, and an eye vitamin each day. I seem to be getting the needed minerals by using pink salt. If I wake up at night, my palms do feel a bit knotted, but I continue to work with my hands each day and am, basically, pain free.
For me, there was no single supplement that did the trick; just the overhaul of my diet. When people on this site speak of Alkalizing the body for health, this is what they mean.
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Apple Cider Vinegar, Ginger
Organic Broccoli
Vitamin C
What I had learned from that experience is to cut down from the vitamins a little at a time so my body won't go into shock.
Since then I gave borax a second try. The first time a few years ago I only hung in 30 days and gave up. This time I hung in 4 months and can go up and down the stairs without pain ( I have heart issues too). Up and down the stairs without pain, "That's Good", however the vitamins had me Running up and down the stairs, "That's Great! " but I did not like the backfire, so for now borax it is.
HisJewel
Apple Cider Vinegar
Could you kindly tell me how long your Hyaluronic acid and Turmeric treatments took to show results? Also, the other ingredients listed on the bottle would be good to know?
Hoping for a reply.
Thanks, Michael
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Devil's Claw
Black Cherry Juice, ACV, Turmeric
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Pau D' Arco, Boron
If the reason you have osteoarthritis is because of parasites and microbes, perhaps the Pau D'arco will work.
But I believe borax does other things to help arthritis, like alkalize the body and improve the calcium/magnesium balance that Pau D'arco may not be able to do.
You could try using the borax in juice. I put a little in my coffee and don't notice it. (Just a sprinkle, though, not a 1/4 teaspoon or anything.)
You could also try a different alkalizing remedy, like 1 Tablespoon of Apple cider vinegar, 1/4 teaspoon of baking soda in a glass of water.
Magnesium oil topically may give you some relief as well.
~Mama to Many~
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I would give the borax another try if it is going to cure my osteoarthritis. I have it bad in the back of my knees. The arthritis is in about every joint, my feet, ankles, knees, hands, fingers and wrists. Ouch!! My question is, can I expect to have a cure using this tea, since in the original article by Rex Newnham (?) is that correct spelling? any way he said if you do not want to use borax that you could use something else that kills the microbes etc. Someone please advise.
I have read about the use of ginger to ease Osteoarthritis. I have also used Apple Cider Vinegar as an additive with honey to relieve sore throat, sinus symptoms etc.
I must report though that you need to be really careful with the amount of ACV you use. One of the ingredients is Potassium Metabisulphate. Too much of this can have bad effects on different parts of the body. I started to get quite serious difficulty in passing urine. My thought process went into rewind to find a reason why I suddenly found it so difficult to pass urine and using a catheter was very painful during insertion when the tip of the tube got to the point where the prostate is.
I did some research about Potassium Metabisulphate and discovered that one of the side effects over too much in the body can cause swelling of certain parts of the body.....fingers, toes, extremities, but also the prostate. What was happening is that my prostate was swelling up and pinching the urethra and stopping urine flow. I stopped using ACV and within 3 to 4 days the symptoms disappeared.
I then read about ginger and results to ease Osteoarthritis. So I followed quantity recommendations and used fresh ginger root every other day. However the symptoms experienced with too much ACV returned. I checked the suggested quantity amount, but I also checked what components make up ginger. I was surprised to see that ginger is very high in Potassium. So I stopped this too and my symptoms disappeared.
Another vegetable that does similar things is Asparagus, be careful with this one too.
The moral here is to be very careful with things that are high in Potassium. Too much of it can actually be very dangerous.
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The reason for the use is to bring relief for sinus congestion and frequent sore throat.
What has happened though has taken me a bit by surprise. My increasing symptoms of Osteoarthritis have been brought under control, the pain is significantly reduced. My energy levels are increased, my sinus congestion is reduced, my sore throats ..... almost gone! The surprise though is the change to the Osteoarthritis. I suffer with this in my wrists and hands.
The mix I use is as follows: One dessert spoon of good quality honey, 1 teaspoon of apple cider vinegar in a glass and half filled with warm ( partly cooled boiled water ) stir until dissolved and just drink it down or sip it. It is quite palateable. I drink this in the morning.
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Subsequently, the Lord has sent scores of individuals into my path who also had osteoarthritis and He had me give my testimony about this wonderful remedy and person after person has reported the same wonderful results by doing the organic broccoli. Some of those got rid of their arthritis in one or two weeks. Praise The Lord!
On the Osteo issue, please google, youtube DMSO Dr. Jacobs 60 minutes....and you'll find a three part series on DMSO re arthritic issues.
Honey and Royal Jelly
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Heberden's Node Remedies
Heberden's Node Remedies
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