Permethrin
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Dear Kirsten:
My findings I found is that short term use (exceeding one or more week) lead to a neurological damage in dogs as permethrin was found in the dogs blood that lead to sudden loss of appetite, vomiting and mild epileptic seizures. The most serious I found was weight loss and loss of appetite, along with general weakness. As to the tea tree oil, unfortunately I wasn't able to find any problems with its use.
The permethrin is currently assumed NOT to go through the skin, unfortunately they do go to the skin quite readily if the the carrier base are oil based or cream based and goes through the skin, as I understood, in a matter of hours. Most oil based chemicals, even including tea tree, but more so with permethrin since they damage the neurological process directly that leads to a sudden case of vomiting and then followed by a mild seizures for only permethrin, but not tea tree oil in normal usage amount. Even the person who applied it, namely me, I also got nauseated from using permethrin based dog shampoo and realized early on I had to stop use if the requirement involved the use of longer then 5 days otherwise the body can't detoxify.
In any event, there IS a way around it, since no one really is going to do anything about this issue, which I am afraid I was a bit late to know about that to save one of the dogs dying from permethrin poisoning. The dog died of a seizure a couple of years back while visiting one of my neighbors. The remedy is hydrogen peroxide 20 drops per 1 liter of water, 3% food grade. The other, that can help (within reason!) is the use of vinegar, which somehow induced vomiting (in dogs) and caused a return to normal appetite.
Unfortunately long term exposure involving heavy neurological damage has limited ability to reverse this condition, but a mild exposure can be reduced by destroying permethrin through either breathing in ozone, and/or the use of hydrogen peroxide drinks, very 2-3 hours for about a day. In the event hydrogen peroxde and/or ozone isn't available, which happens very often in third world countries, then I would settle for vinegar and baking soda remedy. Which is 2 tablespoon of vinegar plus 1/2 teaspoon baking soda (the baking soda is a bit higher here by the usual 1/4), in 1/2 glass of water taken 3 times a day. A vitamin B complex is also helpful. Granulated lecithin 1 tablespoon was also protective, as is some magnesium also.
Few people know permethrin can be absorbed by the skin and checked for its presence within an hour or so after the application. It's also true that any oil based aromatherapy has the same effect transdermally. It is one reason how bisphenol A found in cosmetic products and canned food products get into our system also. In a laboratory findings of a rat where it's stomach were shaved, and lavender oil was applied, then it was sacrificed, the scientists found the presence of lavender in their kidneys. The same is also true for the use of garlic. A fresh clove of garlic, chopped, is placed on the foot of a person. Within 30 minutes to an hour, its possible to detect the presence of garlic in a person's breath even though a person have NOT consumed the garlic. It's this reason why ADHD condition are made much worse after the use of any commercial toiletry products, especially those that contain aldehydes and ketones.
Though information is lacking, its possible to prove that through blood tests for their presence. The same is true in proving aspartame poisoning in detection of methanol content over time increases after their consumption, and given a longer period, the presence of formadehyde from their breakdown in the body system. The secret is in the blood in proving things, not expensive rat studies to prove tumor, these research can be altered, but not a blood test.
In any event, I believe hydrogen peroxide, baking soda and vitamin B complex will be most helpful. If none of those are available, permethrin are also destroyed by both UV and ozone exposure too. But their damages to neurological system maybe damaging, even in low concentration even for humans.
Ted
(Austin, Tx)
03/06/2009
Orange essential oil will get rid of scabies. you can put several (10-12) drops in your bath water and also make a spray of orange oil and water in a sprayer bottle - put enough so that you can smell the orange oil. i have also used it topically by mixing it with a carrier oil (olive or coconut). it won't hurt you however to use it straight - but be careful because it can cause sun-sensitivity. also orange juice or lemon or lime juice should also work.
when my best friend had scabies and couldn't use the prescription cream and treatment from the doctor this is what she used and had immediate relief. also i was helping her apply the orange oil and i had first put some on myself (the spray) and i didn't get scabies from her.
try it it works! and it is very cheap - which is good also. you can buy orange essential oil in the health food section of your grocery oil - where you would find lavender oil. also google orange oil for scabies and they also make a commerical spray that is similar made of the inside peel of the orange - the chemical is called D'Limonene.
(Indianapolis, Indiana)
09/08/2009
I was first diagnosed with scabies a year ago this month. I went to the doctor and they gave me permethrin cream. I was told to apply it the same way that you were, neck down, leave it on over night and shower it off in the morning. I followed the directions exactly as they told me, even re-applied two weeks later. The scabies never went away completely. I went back to the doctor and they gave me more permethrin. It didn't seem to really be working for me, although I have heard that it does for others.
In doing some research I came across several remedies that others are offering up as what worked for them. The simplest and most natural way that I have had success with has been using 10% sulfur soap, from the drug store. As soon as I used it the first time I noticed a HUGE difference. In the four areas of my body where they are showing the lesions seemed to diminish as well as the itching was lessened. The sulfur kills the scabies mite, but not the eggs so a couple months using this soap is what is recommended.
It's very simple, twice a day you get in the shower, make the water as hot as you can stand it, then get a wash rag and take the soap and build up a good lather with it. Apply the soapy rag to the affected areas of your skin and scrub it in. They recommend you do this twice a day until the rash disappears and then after it's gone you should do it at least once a week for a couple of months. This is what I have been doing and I have to tell you that it's really working for me and the best part is that it's very simple and very accessible for most people by going to the local drug store or even ordering it online. Good luck and I hope this will help someone.
(Australia)
02/04/2018
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Hi...i have epilepsy and have used the cream and never had a seizure in that period, permetherin can be obtained cheaply thru vet supply,,,, or online...its the same stuff just be careful doing any conversion .... note the percentages ie 3% or more ...also guava leaves boiled in water and the tea applied helps with the itching....if your in usa I have sympathy for you and your greedy corporate health care system. I have removed scabies for under 50usd...good Luck and God bless
btw what God designed these creatures...i really cant understand that.
(GA)
01/25/2023
When you are treating yourself for SCABBIES as well as other bugs, You also have to treat your house, car, clothes, and anywhere you have been....sit, sleep, etc. You have to treat anywhere the eggs have transferred to....floor. I hear Sulfur can be good for doing this. Look up how to do this. It sounds like you treated yourself and then got reinfected by your surroundings.
Permethrin, Hand Sanitizer
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6 days ago, I used permethrin all over as directed.
Someone on this site mentioned hand sanitizer. And I believe it has done as much to drive the bastards out of my skin as anything else. But, it can be quite painful as it is simply jellied alcohol. My question is can these creatures hibernate for years? And, I thank God for this site. Medical doc's are slaves to the pharmeceutical companies. We need to learn to take care of ourselves, as best we can in this time of worldwide chemical pollution.
May God bless us all.
Sandy Lee
Prescription Medications
(Minnesota)
07/11/2015
Next time try psorinum homeopathic - its made from scabies and should kill them - or check online search scabies +cure and you see what other people have used successfully.
(Winnipeg)
12/20/2015
(Ten Mile , Tn)
12/21/2015
HI U KATHY, , , , , , , , , , usually the farm supply stores have the 10 % Ivermectin for animal treatment. No prescription is required. That is where we buy our powdered MSM and DMSO.
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(Sc)
01/30/2016
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WORKED TEMPORARILY
Ivermectin only worked for a few days and then I actually got a worse case scabies 4 days later. If you are going to use it, also do permethrin cream covering scalp to feet.
Prescription Medications
We took out our Kirby vacuum and did all the bedding, including the bed frames, and all carpets floors, drapes etc. I called my doctor first thing on Monday and went in and they said I had scabies and prescribed Lindane lotion and said to thin cover my entire body, from neck to toes, blow dry it on my skin, then wear loose clothing to bed, and rinse the lotion off in the morning. Because this lotion is said to kill the scabies under the skin, the itch can remain up to 2 weeks, after the bugs die, they also prescibed the steroid (predesone) to lessen the itch. I had difficulty sleeping still, feeling itchy, and crawling over my lower legs. Today, I was ok til @ 3pm and the itching came back, so I applied ice, and took an antihistamine (bendryl) to lessen the itch. This worked ok. I notice if I stand a long time, my ankles get red and so don't the bites in that area, so I have been elevating my feet, when possible, with the ice bags, that helps. It's too early to tell if this lotion did actually kill the scabies under the skin. I am grossed out, but the fact my skin will heal with dead bugs underneath, so I am wondering if anyone has ever open the skin slightly and scraped them out. For those on this site that have had them for months and years, I simply can't imagine, not being able to sleep with the constant itchy, crawling sensation, I've had over the past week, never mind the psychological aspect of scouring your home and everyone in it to make sure every spec you see isn't a bug/mite. I have tweezers, plastic container with lid, and a large magnifying glass on the counter, just in case. I was sent this site today, but have read many of the comments and I've not seen any that state they have killed scabies and have not had them again, but using/doing certain steps. I've read on WebMD and other medical sites that scabies need to be treated/killed or they will continue. THe doctor told me that if they do not have a host to feed that the mite will die within 24 hrs. I don't know how they travel. My prescriptions (lotion and steroid) co-pay was only $15, so if this works and they are gone, the creepy crawlies and itching were worth me freaking out about the potential (scared the crap out of me) side effects of the lotion. Good Luck to all who are searching for the cure, and if this works and I'm done soon with the itching, I will re-post.
(Leesburg, VA)
07/20/2009
Psorinum
★★★★★
Stay away from costly, dangerous medicines. I saw my aura turn black with the medical remedy! You could try Psorinum on pets without side effects. Otherwise use Ted's remedy. From Om
Red Lavender Tincture
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(Henderson, 89015)
11/03/2012
(Portland Oregon UDA)
12/18/2022
Red Wine Spray
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Have a plastic bottle 500ml with a trigger sprayer filled with a medium red wine 10.5% alcohol or better and spray all over the body. Keeping eyes closed a light spray to shut eyes will not hurt.Scabies will hide in all places so you will have to use your imagination.
The shower is a good place while doing this. Leave it on for as long as you feel comfortable with and then shower off. I have found this method to work very well with red wine a little more effective than the white. A cheap inexpensive four litre cask of medium red wine will be more than enough if you do not drink it.Having said that please do not drink too much of the cure.
(Loco, Ca)
01/06/2010
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WORKED TEMPORARILY
(Tn)
04/07/2015
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So red wine works and kills these monsters? I've done all the cleaning on what these threads say except the steam which I cant afford! I got a dog and got lucky with myvet they took my word and started her on revolution ive took the hot bath the suanas...ive applied TTO bleach periode and avc! My problem is I thought I had it licked but my dog seems to b acting up in the nights and now I am again aftr 2 months im really low on money and havent tried the borax and dont even know where to get it only thing I can think of was a person came over and they never shower but I seen them itching so now makes me wonder if I was cured or reibfested myself? So upset can anybody plz help with a cheapwr method so far ive only got a few raised spot that look like mosquite bites with itches luckily no wiggles yet however I have foundthose brown specks on my belly when they had been clearing up andvmy vet told me scabies in dogs r different than humans tht is very rare tht a mite from dog get on us so they cant produce I got sle lupus my skin is so dry plzhelp just cant handle this nitemare thank u for listening and god bless each good luck to all.
Rubbing Alcohol
Has anyone tried using diluted acohol on their lessions to kill Scabies/Mites/bed bugs? And how do you tell which one you could have? My oldest son (10) has thousands of bumps that I had been treating as an allergic reaction for a little more than 4 weeks now. And no one else was affected, until now. My younger son (5) has bumps in his underwear. Extremely worried because I now have a newborn, do not want her to get infected, and need to cure my sons.
EC: We're guessing you are referring to rubbing alcohol? Please correct us if we're wrong!
Scabies Feedback
I have isolated myself (and live alone) for the last 2 months. But my niece needs me to babysit while she goes through surgery. I am afraid I will pass whatever I have on to the baby if I still have mites.
Any good advice?
(Central Texas, US)
01/11/2015
I hope you got better. I contracted bugs after going to the San Diego area. They went away once but came back again. Both times in the fall, October this year, late November last year. They don't bite my husband (so he says).Could be rat or bird mites, since they look for shelter from cold weather.
I saw a remedy for dog scabies from a girl that worked in a shelter. They covered the dogs in mayo. I know when my daughter was young we had to "smother" the head lice. They went away AFTER, I made my husband get the headlice treatment, same as us, even tho he claimed he did not have them. People are strange.
So this time I am having a more difficult time eradicating, but not giving up. Jesus saves! I think soaking clothing overnight will help. purchasing the steam dryer and washer, mainly to keep bugs out of them! One utube site admits the bugs in humans are epidemic and the Drs don't know what to do? It's a Channel 7 news report. Visit that, you'll realize your itchies are not the worst!
(California)
03/20/2018
Scabies Feedback
Scabies vs. Morgellons
If your scabies are visible, then they aren't scabies. If you are having symptoms of black specks, little skin-colored grains, sharp 'pebbles', splintery organisms and hair-like things coming out of your skin, I URGE you to research Morgellons. Do NOT use Wikipedia for information on this condition, as they are incredibly biased on the subject. There is a lot of misinformation out there to sort through.
If you have been fighting 'scabies' for more than a few months, or if you have been seeing organisms coming out of your skin, chances are you are experiencing Morgellons. You cannot kill Morgellons with scabies treatments.
I wish I had found out about this months earlier. Someone posted something similar on a scabies forum, and I ignored the information because a) I didn't want it to be true and b) the Wikipedia page was so biased as to not include any pathogenically based studies on the subject.
Do not despair--if this is what you have, you are one step closer to a cure by knowing what you're after.
Here is a link to a study on the subject http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3751012/
I suggest you visit a Morgellons website as well to read descriptions of the symptoms from people themselves. I repeat: don't let yourself get pulled in by misinformation.
(Iasi)
08/22/2023
Sea Salt Bath
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(UK)
05/19/2019
Sea Salt Bath
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I tried lots of things for my second bout of scabies, white vinegar spray, peroxide and DMSO spray, borax bath, everything worked for so long then plateaued, the vinegar spray (50% water/50% Vinegar) and peroxide (3% with DMSO) worked the best, applying 3 - 5 times a day, you could see them coming out of the skin with both products, but still not total annihilation of these blood-sucking mites after nearly 3 months. I read a 10 year old post about sea salt bath, well all done and dusted after 4 days, 100 liters of hot water (as hot as possibly stand) in tub and 1.5 kilograms of sea salt with little or no anti-caking agents as possible in AU Saxa sea salt was best. soaked for 10 minutes back and front, and both sides, left nothing un-soaked, even scrubbed skin to loosen top skin and open pores. Give it a try. You won't be disappointed.
Silicon Dioxide
Sulphur
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(Philippines)
08/16/2020
Yes, you are right, petroleum jelly chokes the mites and also causes the sulfur to penetrate deeper in the skin for more killing action.
