Spinal Stenosis Remedies

Hi Barb K,

I know it is tempting to jump right in and do all of what you want, right now, but it may be better to do one combination at a time for the simple reason that if you have a bad reaction to just one component of your regimen, you will have to stop everything and start with just one thing at a time to try and figure out which supplement you are negatively reactive to.

I don't know which diagnosis is causing you the most pain, but let's just assume that it is the DDD because this one is often quite painful and debilitating. If this is the case, then it may be useful to start with just the NOW brand Double Strength Hyaluronic Acid at 300 mg per day total and Stopain combo as based on feedback from the EC community and friends that have or are testing or using it. It has been very effective and relatively fast acting with some people starting to see benefit as early as within the first week or two weeks.

If you find similar results then you could then add the melatonin lotion as it also works against DDD and from results seen by some of my friends and the EC community, it is likely to have synergy with the HA/Stopain and help turn the DDD around while also adding benefit against other forms of pain you may be experiencing.

Once you have these three established as effective and problem free, then you can consider adding the others or perhaps you won't even need the others!

Art

I was following this protocol with the great success for about a week. Thanks a lot! Pain greatly diminished, but walking is still very difficult. Would like to know how long do I need to stay on this protocol? I did not have to go to 4 enzymes table 3X a day. I am taking 3 tabets 3X, but would like to know when it is appropriate to lower the disage and for how long I should take smaller dosages.

Dan Z,

Wow, that was very nice of you to say! You made my day!

I didn't mention it, but my friend had the "hardware" from the surgery in the form of metal pins and screws. I remember seeing his x-ray and it looked so out of place to see screws and pins in the x-ray. When I first looked at it, I thought he was pulling a joke on me! They were quite real though.

Regarding what I post, I can't remember how many times I have seen people post useful remedies on Earth Clinic, but leave out important information, such as dosing, brand used, timing and where to buy! I try to include as much of this type of information as possible so that down the road, people will be able to get enough information from the post to actually be able to implement whatever the remedy is. I see quite a few times on EC where people reply to a post that is months or years old with a question, but the original poster rarely replies, so including the pertinent information is useful and important.

Dan, thank you again for the day brightener!

Art

I worked in MD's office for 11 yrs...one of the only things he recommended for leg cramps was Calcium Lactate by Standard process. (I believe he suggested 3 per day and up to 6 if needed) IF (and it was rare, but did come up) the Calcium Lactate didn't work as desired, Standard process also makes a Cataplex F supplement that would help the Calcium Lactate work better. Honestly we sold out of the stuff every week. (he's an MD who is very holistic and has a large variety of supplements in his office...this one just worked the best, so I can't comment on any other brand)

Hope you get some relief!

HI Snyder,

So sorry to hear of you situation. As this is a really great place to come to find solutions for things it is also not always the answer.

Have you had procedures done to tell you how narrow your spinal column has become or if you have bone spurs?

This attached site has just a brief view on what you need to find out before you start to try any remedies. https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/spinal-stenosis/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20352966 ................

It is a very short read. Look for options other then supplements. Perhaps the Pilates table, to be done under supervision of a medical Dr. perhaps sports medicine, AFTER full diagnoses if there is really a chance it could help.

You could try castor oil hot packs to just ease some of the discomfort, may or may not help. It all boils down to getting a full diagnoses of what is going on first. Something like this you do not want to take a chance of making things worse. Yes! Even an operation may be needed (not always avoidable) to do what may be needed first. I am sure this is not what you want to hear but this is a serious situation, one you do not want to mess with. I am for helping ones self homeopathically, I do it all the time. However I have had to sometimes go see western Dr's., to get a proper diagnoses first so I can find the proper homeopathic solution, or even different type of exercise to help. I hope you do find a solution soon and get you comfort to some extent.

All the best to you. Dee

Snyder, so very sorry you are suffering this way. With your symptoms becoming this bad, have you consulted with a spine surgeon? You may need to have your spinal canal widened surgically to relieve pressure on the compressed nerves. The sooner you talk with a surgeon, the better, since nerves are slow to heal and you want to address this promptly before a crisis occurs. My father had bad spinal stenosis so I know all about it and how dangerous it can become. Medicines and various remedies can help for a while, but with severe compression, you may need surgery. Wishing you all the very best.

Hi Snyder

Sorry to hear of your predicament. Have you tried salt? When you get cramps, it's usually due to an imbalance in electrolytes. Magnesium chloride on the skin could help as when magnesium is ingested, it's poorly absorbed. I have found if potassium and magnesium fail, it may be salt you need to stop cramps. Make sure it's a clean sea salt.

Two suggestions:

1. Leg Cramps Homeopathic Remedy...main ingredient: Quinine...You also can drink quinine water.

2. Chiropractic adjustments...

So sorry for your pain

Eric Berg on youtube has a nice teaching on how low K-2 causes this condition.

If you are looking for potassium, try drinking V-8 Juice, low sodium. You will get 1250 mg. per 12 oz. can. This has solved my low potassium problem. I am convinced that many health issues are connected to low potassium/potassium imbalances. Please try this natural remedy. More potassium than any supplement. Our daily requirement is 4 x this amount! Bless you, hope you find relief soon.

Hi Snyder,

I would try to build up the cartilage in the spine with one 500 mg chicken sternum (CS) capsule, mornings. The bottle says that chicken sternum naturally has type 2 collagen, chondroitin and hyaluronic acid.

CS capsules are sold at SwansonVitamins.com and PipingRock.com.

I have seen one woman cancel her hip replacement after 6 months of taking chicken sternum, and one man cancel his knee replacement during the same time.

Another 87 year old woman had terrible knee pain that she wore a brace for. Taking chicken sternum fixed her knee in 4 months.

Currently in my mid-60's, my knees were loose in their sockets in around 2010. I started taking chicken sternum capsules and in 4 months, I could feel that my knee cartilage had filled in, with improvement starting in a few days.

I also had torn something next to my spine when lifting a 7 gallon water jug, so my back felt unhinged but without pain. At some point in I would say 3 to 5 years of starting the chicken sternum, my back for the most part healed, where it does not feel unhinged.

Instead of chicken sternum, mornings with water I now take a level measuring teaspoon of hydrolized chicken collagen (HCC) from BulkSupplements.com, because I assume it also has the type 2 collagen in it which I believe builds cartilage.

My shoulder joints, especially the right shoulder, have not healed and feel like they want to pull out of their sockets, but my sprained ankle has healed for the most part while taking hydrolized bovine collagen with it's type 1 and 3 collagens which are said to repair tendons and ligaments.

I did heal a sprained knee in 3 months by taking a packet per day of knox gelatin, but I was in my mid-20's, so this new collagen product also looks interesting to me which apparently uses a new form of gelatin. I heard the radio infomercial for it:

https://shop.purityproducts.com/joint-health-supplements/joint-gel-formula

Good luck with building up your spine. I also take 2 capsules twice per day of Swanson's or PipingRock's NOW brand "Calcium Hydroxyapatite Caps, " which is the kind of calcium that the body uses. This quantity of capsules keeps my formerly sensitive teeth from decaying or forming cavities, so I assume it maintains my bones as well.

Spinal Stenosis Cure that absolutely works, never do back surgery, the doctors are not good enough yet and they will ruin your nerves terribly! Dr. Debra Katchen, MD and homeopathic doctor wrote an article “Aging Spines Feel Young Again” (unfortunately, homeopathy.org makes you become a member $ 75 to get into their website for the article but I use this remedy so I put it in my phone. Here it is, dirt cheap, need to do for six months and then I would do it every few years to keep the stenosis away, there is a lady on Youtube who also did it and has a testimonial how great it worked...

Take one tablet of strength 30C HEKLA LAVA pills in a 6 oz glass of distilled or purified water, let it dissolve, put in fridge and daily take 2 teaspoons (am and on preferably) and in addition, take four tablets under your tongue of CALCAREA FLUORICA strength 6X once a day for 6 months. (Amazon, iherb, Swanson, Vitacost to compare prices, there is a company brand Hyland in these small like chapstick containers is pretty popular but other companies have those pills). You will start feeling better about 3 months in but continue for the 6 months. Really, really works!!

I am now 80 % better. I just want to correct myself.

Hi, I looked up Dr. Christopher's Bone and Tissue and Bone medicine. Are you still taking it for your spinal stenosis? Did it work longterm?

Thanks in advance!

Evelyn

Udating my progress, MSM has been a God send! I've quit the Grapeseed extract. I believe the Wobensyme was causing my blood pressure to spike. I just found it about Serrapetase and I'm going to include it and glucosamine and condroitin along with Lysine and Black seed oil.

Loleese, let me know how you do, I started high doses of MSM, glucosamine, Vit C and B vitamins. Doc wants to do surgery which bothers me. I don't have pain but tingling. My stenosis is quite severe in the same area yours is. Also going with prayer.

Hi Cheryl, I am doing well with the MSM and some neck stretching exercises recommended by my chiropractor and my osteopath. Yoga is wonderful! The castor oil packs felt good but they are hard to keep up with. I hope you are doing well and can avoid surgery. I'll say a prayer for you today. Let me know how you do.

i quito the glucosamine and condroitin Because I learned it could elevate blood pressure. I have had significant improvement with pain and I beleive it was the MSM but I have referred others to it and it didn't help them. Each person is different. I can stop the tingling within seconds by stretching my neck, dropping my chin and stretching out the back of my neck and holding for eight long breaths or by doing the downward dog position in yoga.

Be careful of the cortisone... Had the injections pre-op and post. Led to early cataracts.. I'm only 50. L5/S1 fusion.1999.

Loleese here, four years later. No surgeries for me! I have changed things over the years - MSM is wonderful but I quit taking it and the other supplements a long time ago. The pain came back though not near as bad. It flared when working or doing things with my hands. I stretch my neck out regularly-gentle stretches to the side and front only. Bending forward and stretching really help too. I recently began experimenting with essential oils and have found immediate and lasting relief by using Young Living RC (which is a blend of Spruce, Cypress, and three types of Eucalyptus oils) and Idaho balsam fir. Two parts of Caster oil to one part each of the YL oils in a roller bottle down the back and front of my neck. Twice a day- Before bed and upon rising~ immediate relief. I use the neck roll pillow to sleep. I couldn't keep up the castor oil packs. They are messy and time consuming but do feel good.

Hi just checking how has this treatment been over the years, timelines when you saw improvement. Hope to hear from you.

Hi there how are you? I also have these conditions in my L4/L5/S1 areas along with having scoliosis and mild spinal bifida as well as osteoarthritis, stenosis in the lumnar areas mentioned above plus in my neck too :-( sadly for the disk compressed and came away from the bone that bad my sciatic nerve got bad damaged and I needed the spinal lumber fusion done back in nov 2012 when I was 29! :-( we managed to hold off for few years but during the nearly 4 year wait, I had 2 children, sadly after them my back for that weak it pretty much had a break! And coz it was bad break close to cord, I needed surgery sooner than later. I only waited 1-2weeks for the call to say I was booked for nov, we were in end of sep. Hubby sorted out his resign at work, Nov came and off I went for surgery at the PA hospital in brisbane. They did say I didnt have to have the surgery as there were alot of risk so it was understandable if I said no but then I would had to prepare myself n family I would be in wheelchair in 6 months. But I took the risk for my children.

They ended up doing more than they said, they did 2 rods, 6screws, removed bad disk, put in plates, did bone graft to help with fusion ect sadly not all pain was gone, I still had less than before which I slowly decreased the amount of meds ect :-) but sadly not long after do physio I still had too much weakness and pain in my left hip and leg which turned out I had a bad tear in the hip joint!! Which was operated on 2'years ago!! :-( I still getting pain today and still have weakness although I been exercising and going physio. So 1 prob I still get pain and it is worse than before!!!

Back to the bone graft, now keep in mind spinal op was.done 4 years ago, well sadly the bone graft they did had failed!! :-( so now I have 2 fractures in one of the rods and 2 screws!!! I get alot of pain coz of this they put all meds back up and made couple changes!! :-( now we moved to airlie beach from brisbane before knowing this has happened in my back. We moved up due to warmer weather all year round, better life style, new environment n better lol nicer people, better school kids are 5&6 they love the freedom, less people, the outside life and know there more to do and see. Loving school as they get to do more ie go on little end of term rewards and so much more, laid back life style is perfect and when I go into airlie I am relaxed as I arrive and soon I see the water and beach ect I am in heaven and already feel much better. Our family relationship and our marriage is so much better n happier than before so moving up defo has helped. But sad thing I back to square 1 pretty much in regards to waiting to all specialist but at least it wont be as long as the first time round. I know I need surgery again but I not sure if I will or want to coz I more scared this time as it already failed once before so whats the reason of it not doing it again??? I am glad I not alone, nore are you guys and thank you for sharing your story and thoughts too. :-) god bless you both and hope things improve soon. Many blessings. :-)

An MRI 5 years ago showed no more cushion between two lowest disks after years of ranching. When I broke ribs from a fall, I began sleeping in a recliner so I could get up. I discovered that I could just stand up and walk across the room instead of hobbling down the hall. The lack of continuous pressure on that area of my back because of the gap where the chair bends has made all the difference in pain and stiffness. In contrast, my walking buddy, a retired nurse, has had three back surgeries and still fights continual pain. I just got a new bed... A new recliner!

I suffer from spinal stenosis causing severe low back pain and sciatic nerve pain. Since taking MSM my pain has almost completely resolved. I have only minimal pain after long periods of walking. I take 2000 milligrams of MSM twice a day. I'm extremely pleased with the improvement in my pain after taking MSM, and I've only been taking it for one month.

The only side effect I have experienced is a change in my sleep pattern, waking every morning around 4:00-5:00 am with difficulty going back to sleep. I'm going to try stopping the nighttime dose and try taking the second dose after lunch to see if that resolves the problem. Also, I am allergic to sulfa drugs but have not experienced any skin related side effects with MSM. While it is a possibility that resolution of my pain is coincidental, I'm not willing to give it up in order to find out. If my pain returns while on MSM, then I'll know. I'll keep you posted.

Hi, my mother was recently diagnosed with lumbar stenosis and she has the tingling n numbness and as of lately complains of heaviness in her legs. I'm going to purchase the MSM for her? Are you doing better? Please update as I want to know if this in fact does work.

Hi Allyson, please tell us how much Serrapeptase worked for you? Thanks!

Can this work for narrowing stenosis too?

What kind stenosis did he have? Narrowing or boney spurs?