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As far as the antibodies go, when you get a nondectable reading you still have the antibodies fighting the hep c in your liver and lymphatic system, is that right?. wouldn't a true cure be no antibodies? is it not true that no antibodies would mean there is no hepc for your body to creat antibodies to fight?.
I was told by a Doctor nondectable dose not mean the Lab finds no trace of of hep-c so what is the the designating factor for calling it "non Dectable"
In 2010 I tested 210000 H HCV RNA PCR quant....6.32h
in 2011 using bht as you prescribe my viral load went to 87830
last week I went on harmoni the dr had me tested before starting harmoni it was down to 761240
I had venerial warts very very bad for at least 40 years tried everything, podophlyn, freezing , lazer nothing worked except when I first went on bht after about 3 months they were gone! .
I have taken 13 harmin pills so far and the fatigue is almost gone I say almost but can not really tell because I also take Methadone.
In conclusion BHT has cut my VL load more then in half and the only symptom I have had in 3 years is fatigue.
Oscar do you recomend me taking BHT now along with harmoni, I was taking it up until I started Harmoni but then I stoped I feel like I should be taking it along with the Harmoni what do you think?
I know you are not a believer but I pray for you Oscar., or at least I think I read that somewhere in one of your posts.
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By the way I do not consider the BHT as not working. It has certainly cut my viral load in 2/3. The Harvoni is the newst drug out for hep c.. I figured by your post you knew nothing of the drug because I slaughtered the spelling.
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How to Buy BHT in Ghana
Another thing is that I have been experiencing some right abdominal pain which I believe is the virus cause. Please can you help me get access to the bht I dont want to die from this virus.
If that link does NOT work: do a search for: Wholesale Nutrition + BHT.
Also: Try NOT to get overly concerned about a hepatitis B infection. One of every three people alive today are infected with hepatitis B. A large majority of these people will never suffer from this infection. But some will get sick.
Have you had any liver function tests done? Is there any indication of liver failure? Poor liver function tests results?
Also: In it's initial phase: malaria can produce temporary liver malfunction. This usually clears up.
Now: BHT is sold as a " food preservative ". So if anyone asks why you want to buy BHT: Tell them you wish to buy it to help keep your food fresh.
There are many other companies that sell BHT. You are going to have to find one you can buy from in Ghana....Oscar
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Thank you for replying. I will not take any dietary supplement in the near future.
This forum has actually gave me hope, after a long time I had no hope. Please keep this forum alive for the sake of people who are looking for a cure. My doctor was very interested in my BHT treatment, and she said that she hoped I'll be able to reduce the amount of virus in my blood by using BHT.
She prescribed me more tests which I'll take in six weeks from now. I'll let you know about my test results.
Thank you. Best regards, Sarah
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Thank you for your post.I read itwith great interest, and appreciate very much your sharing of your knowledge and experience with me and other people as well!
I'm so glad you're healed from both Hepatitis C and B by BHT treatment! It's really amazing, since there is no known cure for hepatitis B (as much as I know they recently found cure for Hepatitis C).
Reading your responses made me realizethat viral diseaseis a journey that one should never have to take alone.
Yes, my doctor is very interested in BHT treatment! She said that she had more patients with HepatitisB, and she was really curious to know whether my viral load continues to reduce.
I am not sure yet if my doctor will agree that her name will be mentioned in public as BHT treatment supporter, but she said that she'd be happy for me if I'll cure my Hepatitis B by consuming BHT, and she said she'll cooperate with me in every way. My doctor is very intelligent and open-minded person.
I wish you health and wellness, and I hope that you'llcontinueto accompany mein my healing process by BHT.
Best regards
Sarah estisarah (at) yahoo (dot) com
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Thank you for your response.
I think to continue my treatment as it is for a further six weeks, and if my viral load continues to fall in about 30% like before, than I will continue this way for another six weeks hoping the virus will go away from my bloodstream.
If after six weeks following there will be no reduction in viral load, or the reduction will be less than in the last three months, I'll definitely try an additional 250mg of BHT per day.
Of course I'll share here when I have my test results.
Could you please let me know how the virus behaved in patients with hepatitis C and in your case, after you started consuming BHT?
How long it took until it was indicated that the virus disappears from your blood stream? (I understand from you that in my case there is a slow progress have I understood you correctly?)
I have started taking vitamin C. Is it true that the consumption of vitamin C does NOT affect the efficacy of BHT?
I believe that the more people share their experiences so we can learn more from each other, as I have learned from you about BHT treatment.
Thank you again, I really appreciate your help very much!
Best regards, Sarah
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EC: Dear Sierraafric,
Please check the BHT section on our Hepatitis B page for feedback from Oscar and others who have tried this treatment.
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I really think it is very important that people share their experience about BHT treatment with each other.
According to the protocol I conduct regarding my BHT treatment for Hepatitis B, I would like to share with you the results of my blood tests that unfortunaely came not very good this time.
I started taking BHT about a half a year ago. During the first months the viral load dropped thirty percent every six weeks.
Six weeks ago the amount of virus in my blood was:
HBV QUANTITATIVE PCR
530 =5.3*10^2
I decided to increase the BHT dose at 250 mg more, and few days ago I did a blood test again but unfortunately the amount of the virus in my blood increased!
HBV QUANTITATIVE PCR
860 =8.6*10^2
I was disappointed because I thought that increasing the BHT dose will hasten the disappearance of the virus in my blood..
Now I do not know how to proceed with BHT treatment, or maybe I should stop at all?
I really need advice from Oscar..
Regardless of my case I hope he feels better!
Sarah
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I do NOT want to get in trouble with USA authorities for trying to help people in need in Nigeria. I do NOT know what the laws are in Nigeria or what the problem is all about. There seems to be some mistrust between the Government in Nigeria and the authorities here in the USA. There must be some way to work around said problems. Is there an " OXFAM AMERICA office in Abuja or a DOCTORS WITHOUT BORDERS office, address I can have BHT sent to in Abuja ? I want to help but do not know how to. I will try and help if I can.
You may wish to try and purchase BHT through AMAZON and see if you can or not and report back to this forum. See what you can find out and report back with what you learn. There are people who care and I am one of them. I hate all this mistrust between the peoples of our world but it is the way it is. I think just being honest is the way to go. If questioned about what BHT is, say it is a FOOD PRESERVATIVE that has been shown to help people suffering from the different viral hepatitis diseases including hepatitis B and that is why you want it. How can that be a crime ? BHT`s legal designation is a FOOD PRESERVATIVE
I have been aware of many people living in Nigeria having a bigtime problem purchasing BHT. I do NOT know why this is true, only that it is. TimH has suggested buying BHT trough AMAZON. Have ANY of you Nigerians had success doing so ? Let this forum know if you have or not. This is vitally important information. So you Nigerians need to help here by providing feedback. TimH, myself [ Oscar ] and others want to help, but you NIGERIANS are the ONLY ones who can provide answers that work. We do NOT live in Nigeria. So it is up to you NIGERIANS to come up with answers to this problem. BHT is sold as a FOOD PRESERVATVE by many retailers. The suppliers are there but have trouble selling BHT to Nigerians. I do NOT know why....Oscar
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I do NOT know how Nigerians can obtain BHT. BHT is sold as a food preservative. It is NOT a controlled substance. Why Nigerians have a hard time buying BHT is a mystery to me. What is the problem ? Do you know ? ...Oscar
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I am NOT a doctor. I am NOT prescribing BHT for you or anyone else`s liver infections or anything else. I discussed BHT with you. It is up to you whether or not you decide to use it. From everything you said there is NO compelling reason for you to take BHT....Oscar
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I was a member on the BHT group and apparently it was taken down. I just want to share the benefits of BHT for hepatitis B. I did get a successful treatment of tenofovir (zero VL) prescribed by the VA but when I did stop them due to renal nephrotoxicity side effects it came back. So far it's the simple treatment of BHT on an empty stomach that did it. I also quit drinking and start eating healthy food. I mean non-GMOs or processed foods. For meats grass-fed or non-antibiotic stuff. Organic vegetables for cooking and most of all juicing every morning. I know a lot of succesful stories from the BHT group due to simplicity and healthy eating. Maybe NIH should do some studies on these. Wish Rachel and Cathy can revive the old BHT group. Thanks again Leatherneck for you laborious research. Doc Jorge BLT3/5.
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Thank you for updating your protocol, I will stop the b12 and just take the multi. I am taking the selenium and the herb that was listed way back when. Hope they are still ok, I feel great at least. Thanks a ton! Lana
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Is BHT safe to take while pregnant? If so, what is the recommended dosage and what other treatment or supplements should I take to cure hepatitis b while pregnant?...thanks
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Thank you so much for your quick response. I'm not sure how bad is my hepa b. The doctor just told me I have it. I am an expat working in Dubai and will be facing deportation because of this disease.
I have read that BHT in food amount is safe during pregnancy. Is a 250mg or half of it per day cannot be considered small amount? If you are not sure, then what other treatment can you recommend? Thanks. - Ana
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I'm Hanna from Florida. My 66-year old husband probably contracted hep. C in the early 70s. He was diagnosed Oct 2013 and it had become cirrhosis of the liver by then. HCV 1b.
Would he be a good candidate for BHT treatments? He weighs 150 lbs only (used to weigh 165) and his dr put him on 3 diff. meds: 2 diuretics: Spironolact 50 mg + Furosemide 20 mg (for ascites) and Nadolol 20 mg (beta blocker for esophageal varices). He is feeling good, other than being tired, probably caused by side effects of his meds. Occasional itching also.
Dr wants him to start SOVALDI (new med that costs $1000/pill by Gilead - we don't have any drug benefits, only Original Medicare, so we can't afford it... Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated! Hanna
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I do have further questions for ya. I have multiple health issues involved here like I stated in the previous reply. Bill is helping me with the candida issues from his protocol. I'm having trouble trying to figure out how I should proceed with treatment options. I don't have just 1 area of concern like HSV. I have way more than that to deal with.
Here are the questions I'm asking myself:
Do I stop the candida protocol and go strictly to this BHT treatment plan for HSV and whatever other unknown viruses I might have?
Or, do I just continue with the candida protocol from Bill and wait in treating the HSV?
Bill has stated to me many times if I can get rid of the candida all of my other health issues will probably go away. This happened for him but doesn't mean it will happen for me. I just make small steps in progress from candida protocol. I can't take the iodine because I have such a bad reaction to it. I've come to the conclusion this is because I also have very bad adrenal issues. If we have adrenal fatigue, insufficiency, etc. then iodine can cause more problems.
The candida protocol calls for the use of herbs and quite a few other supplements not needed in your BHT treatment plan. I'm just torn as what to do now. I know I have viral overload in my body but I also know that I have candida overgrowth as well. Do you have any suggestions in how to proceed? Thanks again for your time & God Bless!
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My doctors tell me that there's not a thing wrong with me other than depression/anxiety. Yeah right! I've had to diagnose myself basically Oscar. I know that I have a systemic candida infection. I've had a white coated tongue for years now. It's gotten some better but still a light coated tongue. All the doctors tell me it's normal to have a white coated tongue at my age! It's ridiculous!
I had kidney failure back in 2012. The doctors still say they have no clue as to why my kidneys failed. I think I know why more than they do. I have multiple organs/body systems affected. I've been given multiple courses of anti-biotics and anti-fungals which done nothing. That was almost 2 years ago.
They tell me that HSV doesn't have a single thing to do with my health issues. That's another yeah right! They say that I don't have fungal issues. Then, why was I prescribed anti-fungals? I've stopped going to the doctors. I did see a local homeopathic doctor for 4 months back last year. That didn't help me either. Only left us $3, 000 short in savings.
I still continue my pursuit of finding that answer. God has a plan and my faith will keep me going. God will lead me to the right thing. I love this site and I expect some sort of breakthrough coming from this site.
You say to try the BHT treatment alongside the candida protocol but you also say not to take herbs with BHT which are a part of the candida protocol. I take milk thistle, ALA, & other rotating herbs for candida, etc. Let me know what you think! God Bless!
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Tony, since the other treatment has not worked as well as hoped for why not give the BHT treatment at least a short trial. If your condition gets worse go back to this other treatment. Try the BHT as I recommend without those other supplements. Now BHT is a very effective treatment for herpes virus in all it`s variants. BHT can also enhance a person`s immune system by readily deactivating free radicals and reactive oxygen species. It may just be enough to get this candida infection under control.
Evidently I am also a candida carrier and did not even know it. I saw a picture of a person`s tongue with that white coating and was struck by how much it looked like my tongue when I was very sick with hepatitis C. I also developed an active case of TB while sick with hepatitis C. So who knows: It is possible the BHT treatment may turn the corner for you with this candida infection as well. It should surely help a lot with the herpes virus.
A short trial period seems worth a try. I recommend starting out with no more than 250mg of BHT per day with water on an empty stomach. From there ramp up to two doses of 250mg of BHT per day=500mg of BHT per day. That is the treatment. A daily standard multivitamin and mineral supplement is OK. Same for 250mg to 500mg of vitamin C. A standard vitamin B-complex is OK to use. The vitamins are optional and NOT required as part of the BHT treatment.
Also eat an adequate diet. Drink plenty of distilled water. Cook any and all foods adequately to prevent the dangerous new strains of E.Coli that have become a serious problem few people are aware of. Just this month there were two huge recalls of contaminated meat. I do mean in the last 10 days. Eat NO ground meat of any type. That does include beef, poultry. pork, and fish. Cook all meats and vegetables. I cured myself of what I thought was a chronic case of diarhea by doing as I just instructed in the last week. Lets give this a try and see how you do. I am also available at THE BHT CURES CHAT GROUP here:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/THE_BHT_CURES_CHAT_GROUP/info
Let`s give the BHT a try and see what happens. You can buy BHT in 250mg capsules here:
http://www.lifelinknet.com/siteResources/Products/BHT.asp
Wish you well and to get and stay well, ...Oscar
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How do you come to the conclusion that BHT would help get the candida infection under control? The white coating on my tongue has gradually gotten better. I've used both tea tree oil and turpentine to get that stuff of from my tongue. However, it doesn't do any good if I have fungal issues from the digestive system. The tongue provides good evidence about your digestive health.
I'll just start out low in BHT dosage as you suggested. I'll take 250 mg daily on empty stomach and then increase to 500 mg daily thereafter. I'll probably just avoid a multi-vitamin for now. I'm getting plenty of vitamins and nutrients from food including a green drink every single day.
You say to stay away from meats but after that you say to be sure and cook all meats and veggies. I've been eating only raw salads. I wash all of my veggies and fruits in an organic wash liquid. Also, I normally only buy organic produce anyhow. I only eat organic meats as well.
I eat them in small amounts though because Bill lists this from the candida protocol. His protocol calls for only small amounts of meat and only white meat. Can I have any meats or not? I do like my organic turkey and chicken along with wild caught fish. I do have an occasional serving of organic grass-fed beef.
I get all of my supplements online from 1 source only. They do have a product called "Life Enhancement Durk Pearson and Sandy Shaw's BHT Plus". It's the only BHT supplement they have available though. Seems to have good reviews from the site. It contains 180 mg BHT plus 80 mg vitamin C in the form of ascorbyl palmitate for fat solubility. Would this be OK?
Thanks again for your time and have a great day! God Bless you as well!
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Hopefully, after a few weeks I can see some improvements with the viral part of my disease/sickness. I'm also going to purchase a Terminator zapper and see what that device can do. I'm still searching and with faith I will get through this awful health crisis.
I'm really tired of taking soooooooooo many supplements. Been doing this for over 2 years now. They just don't seem to work for me no matter what brand/type but I know they're better and safer than drugs for sure. I'm putting a lot of confidence in the zapper I'll be purchasing. Timh on these boards says they've helped him tremendously. Anyhow, thanks for the link to the BHT. I'll get one bottle and see what happens when using it with the zapper. Thanks again Bill and God Bless!
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This is my 2nd year taking BHT and last year the results were lower. This week my blood work was as follows:
AST: 54 last year 32
ALT: 69 last 54
Viral Load 22 million last year 7 million
I am genotype 3 and have been taking 2 350 miligram capsules, the last 2 days I doubled the amount, last night I couldn't get to sleep so today I am taking 3 350 miligram capsules. Also, I have taken R-lipoic acid 2 times a day 350 mil each cap, also fish oil capsule. I drink a large coffee with 5 creams each morning half is decaffinated and was told coffee increases viral load. Any comments or suggestions welcomed and thanks for the hope. Lana
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In fact at this point because of the feedback available: I, we are suggesting using ONLY BHT with an occasional multivitamin and mineral supplement. I never recommended fish oil or the other supplements you mentioned. Are you taking the BHT with water only on an empty stomach or not? If you are taking BHT at the same time as you are the fish oil or anything else you will make the treatment NOT work.
Also, IF your viral load has gone up to 22 million it is time you look into the NEW hepatitis C treatments becoming available this year [ 2014 ]. Please be clear about what you are saying. I try very hard to be very clear about what I am saying. If your viral load count actually went down I see some hope for the BHT working. But you need to keep this treatment simple and NOT mix it with other supplements.
And, you are taking TOO much BHT. 700mg of BHT per day is the upper limit as to what I consider safe. Here is a link to our group:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/THE_BHT_CURES_CHAT_GROUP/info
Look, The BHT treatment does NOT work well with many supplements. Join the above group if you wish to. That way I can stay in close contact with you. If your viral load count went down instead of up: With some supervision we can get this treatment to work. If your numbers went up to 22 million it is time to look into the new treatments becoming available this year....Oscar
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Yes my viral load went up from 7 million to 22 million, it was 7 million last year.
I read steven fowkes book about herpes and bht and the amounts he recommended were higher 1000mg for persons weighing 110. and I weigh 140.00 and am 5 ' 3 " the treatment also had a lot to do with persons that were in menopause?
I always took the bht by itself, and did take R-lipoic Acid 700 mgs a day, with fish oil and an occasional bcomplex. You were saying not to take b12, I never said I did.
What is the new treatment and what do you know about it, where might I find out about it. Thank you, Lana
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It is time for you to get on a treatment that really works. If the BHT without R-lipoic acid and or fish oil works that would be great. But you need to find out. And those viral load tests are the only way to find out. I did mention some new treatments were due to become available this year [ 2014 ].
Here are some websites that discuss these new treatments:
Short extract from above link:
"This has made me change the way I'm talking with patients. These regimens are essentially going to cure everybody, " said Muir, who has conducted related research but did not participate in these studies. "I had a patient in my office this morning who said, 'If I get cured, ' and I said to him, 'When you get cured, '" Muir added.
"I think the great thing about these new direct-acting antivirals is that with the right combinations of drugs, all patients appear to be cured, " said Muir.
Here is another link:
I would think you would be a prime candidate for said treatments because even though your viral load is high your liver function test results are NOT that bad. You are close to normal in that regard. But it is time for you to get on a treatment that works for you Lana. In the meantime STOP taking LIPOIC ACID and lower your dosage of BHT to NO more than 700mg of BHT per day. More is NOT better. Fowkes` book is mostly about treating herpes viruses.
Who knows, you may get lucky with the BHT WITHOUT R-Lipoic acid. They will test you before starting these treatments so if you do not show a dramatic decrease in that viral load it is time to get on a treatment that works for you. I want to see you get well....Oscar
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Thanks again, I stopped the r-lipoic acid and the other vitamins and will see what happens. Also the ast was 36 this year not 54 my mistake. I will check out the treatment site but hope the bht will work by itself. Thanks and I will keep you posted. Lana
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It's really crazy here in Nigeria and sometimes you are not properly taken care of when it get to medical issues, am actually on Liv.52 and I bought immance myself trying to be on a more safer side BUT my question is (is liv.52 killing Hep b virus) . I have read so many things about BHT and am interested in getting it as soon as possible. I haven't gone for my viral load test yet but I will like to know if I can take both liv.52 and BHT together. I would love to get rid of this, reading about other people improvement I will like to give it a try... Please advice. Thanks
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Of course you wish to NOT be infected with hepatitis B. There is the BHT treatment that seems to work for some people infected with hepatitis B. You asked about " liv 52 ". I can NOT find a link that gives anything other than a very vague or unclear description of what " liv 52 " is. For that reason I have NO opinion on how well it works or if it will work well with the BHT treatment.
Also, because I have NO idea what liv 52 is: I do suggest NOT taking it when or if you ever start the BHT treatment.
The BHT treatment is NO more than 250mg of BHT per day with water on an empty stomach as a starting dosage. It could be less. You have to try it and find out if you can tolerate the BHT or not. If you weigh less than 125 pounds it very well could be a smaller dosage of BHT. This dosage issue is something only you can determine. I can not do it for you. I can only provide the rough guidelines I have. For people who weigh between 150 pounds and 200 pounds the two doses of 250mg of BHT with water on an empty stomach is what seems to work best = 500mg of BHT per day as a treatment for hepatitis B and C. If any adverse effects occur ALWAYS lower the dosage used or stop using BHT.
I do NOT know of a totally safe treatment for hepatitis B. If you are not suffering any sign of liver failure you might be better off just living with it. There is also the " monolaurin treatment" that is reported to be effective against many viruses. Monolaurin is a component of human mother milk and for that reason might be safer.
In conclusion: The BHT works well for some people. Seems to actually cure the infection with some people if used with care....Oscar
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"My blood test came in and I'm very excited.
January 2013 my Load counts were very high.
AST= 160
ALT= 155
Viral Load Count = 10 million
I have had HCV for 50 years and never really took it serious until I started feeling pain in my liver earlier this year. That's when I started getting worried and Found Oscars BHT protocol . I started the BHT about 3 weeks before getting a blood test done and I knew right away it was helping me because the pain I had went away about 3 days after starting. I had my blood drawn Dec 20 2013 and here is the results.
AST= 84
ALT= 120
Viral Load Count = 1 million
Wow!!! I was floored and excited. pretty dramatic for only doing BHT for 3 weeks.
But my Platelet count is low =78 but it's been low for at least a year that I know of. It should be 140 - 415. I will get my next test done in a few months and will post results. Thanks for finding this BHT Oscar.
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Important: Keep it simple: NO milk thistle, NO grapefruit juice. Just the few vitamins I have discussed.
Here is the BHT cures chat group for those interested: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/THE_BHT_CURES_CHAT_GROUP/conversations/messages/3921
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Rosa from Brazil achieved NO VIRUS DETECTABLE in about 3 months of BHT treatment with NO other supplements and has stayed NO VIRUS DETECTED for about 4 months now.
Rosa takes one 250mg of BHT twice a day = 500mg of BHT per day. She had or has a HCV type 1b infection. She takes NO other supplements. I asked for and received Rosa`s permission to post her test results. Here they are:
RosaToday at 08:49 AM
Hello all.. My virus load test is out!!! On April2013 I Had 109.357 Ul/MlI started taking BHT at the end of JuneOn Sep2013 I was counted as INFERIOR to 12 ul/mlLets mention all my liver panels are normal now. If you need Oscar I'll repeat all my numbers here for reference. 3 months of BHT only! I owe it all to you. I will continue to take BHT for looonnnggg because it makes me look younger, fresher and gives me a boost of energy.
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Update here:
Today Dec 23rd, 2013 as a Christmas gift I got my new results
ALT 17
AST 20
Gama 17
Alcaline Fosfat 49
Virus load undetected as you can see on the picture attached for the ones that have a difficulty in believing on BHT.
Although in Sep we know it also meant undetected, I keep taking my BHT twice a day and I feel very energetic. I want to mention that also my Cholesterol nbrs went down and I havent made any substancial changes on my diet, on the opositte, I think I was more concearned with what I was intaking before Sep scared to overload my liver.
I have only one word to say here. For the ones that are starting now, YOU CAN DO A CHANGE IN YOUR LIFE YES. and it only takes some months!
My friend that used Interferon and suffered a whole year, is not cleansing his body of the effects but he still suffers all teh changes that it did to his life. I almost feel ashamed that I got rid in such a easier way...
He will start with BHT now just to make sure it never comes back again,
I wish you all a Great holliday season, full of love and hope and many successfull stories in 2014.
Rachel im crossing my fingers for you and you are in my mind all day today!
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There have been many other BHT success stories. But I am increasingly convinced the simpler you keep the BHT treatment the better. Some moderate use of vitamins might be helpful. With the exception of vitamin E. Do NOT take vitamin E supplements because said supplements have been shown to enhance lipid coated viruses` ability to replicate. Yes you need some vitamin E but most people get plenty in the food they eat.
There is the BHT CURES CHAT GROUP here for those interested:
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/THE_BHT_CURES_CHAT_GROUP/info
BUT, please post your results here at the EARTH CLINIC where it does the most good. Merry Christmas, ...Oscar
