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I rescued two 4mth old staffie pups with severe sarcoptic manage, unfortunately one of them had to be euthanised due to the severity of the mange and infection - thankfully one of them is now doing well, but i am using the borax solution every third day at the moment as the mange was so severe (she has no hair whatsoever). Her skin is very dry and i want to help her as much as i can, therefore would it be safe to bathe her in extra soft baby shampoo and maybe apply baby lotion afterwards (inbetween borax dips) to help ease the dryness? If not, what else can i use/apply to increase the condition of her skin. I have also been feeding her multi-vits for dogs as i think she needs all the help she can get.
The mites also seem to favour my arms so i tried Lyclear derma cream but the bites increased, so now i'm using the solution on myself which seems to be working quite well (fingers crossed).
NB: When making the borax solution ensure you follow the directions to a tee or it won't be effective!
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Got the measurments ok, but I have a question about sterilizing the home. If I'm not mistaken I've read that demodectic mange is not contagious. My dog has demo so do i need to go thru all of the steps for the house as if he had sarcoptic?
Thanks. Kelle
EC: Hi Kelle: Check the Borax page: https://www.earthclinic.com/remedies/borax.html -- at the end of the section there are "Where to Find" posts. None mention Thailand, but might give you a clue where to find it.
On the same page you will see the follow post from Ted:
Ted from Bangkok, Thailand writes: "Most borax I buy is a B.P. grade and a U.S.P. grade borax from a chemical supplier. Those are grade are often used that are pharmaceutical grade. However, those that are gotten from natural sources (e.g. borax) and go relatively unprocessed, that is unadded of additives or anything are often labeled 100% Sodium tetraborate or Borax. Without anything else."
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Everything should be done exactly as described in my previous feedback except for the treatment frequency. I believe that the mites are maturing every day and therefore laying new eggs every day and it follows that in this case the treatment on the animal would be best done every day. Obviously for heavily encrusted areas of mange (which in humans would be termed Norwegen Scabies) I think it would be better to do an aditional localised application every 12 hours.
So that will be a full treatment every day and a localised treatment twelve hours later.
You can look at mange in this way. your animal is like a country and mites happily lives sparcely over it with no problems to the animal. The crusted mange is similar to the mites deciding to build cities and party on your animal. This is when it becomes a big problem and very sore. Breaking down these cities is a big job and going to take time and patience and of course a lot of effort.
In really bad cases the crusted mange must be very gently scraped away to reveal the sore skin before treatment. Make sure you catch the scrapings in a piece of tisue and dispose of it carefully as it is highly contagious. (I think ted referes to these crust as beehives.)
Kind regards
Stephan Toth
Ted's Mange Treatment Tips
1) If your dog has mites then you can be sure that they are present in the whole of the area that your dog uses and that in a lot of cases the humans have them too. You can test if you have mites (scabies) if you itch after having a bath or at night when you go to bed.
2) You have to treat the whole of the above at the same time or you will have a cycle of reinfestation from your pet to the house to you to your pet. So choose an action day and get everything ready for your war on mites.
3) In the case of your house, all beds, sofas, carpets, cusions etc that are too big to be washed including rugs and carpets should be treat with the borax solution or lime sulphur and covered in strong plastic sheeting using duct tape. I know its a lot of bother but its cheaper than throwing them outside and burning them.
4)Having taken the pets outside, Make up the solution of Borax using the following equivalents (one cup hydrogen peroxide and two cups water first and then the 9 teaspoons or 3 tablespoons of borax put in last. let the borax dissolved) This translates for bulk production as:- The borax mange treatment is made by filling a five-gallon bucket with warm water and then adding a 200 milliliter bottle of three percent hydrogen peroxide. Finally add borax laundry booster until full saturation is achieved. This means when borax is added to the water, rather than dissolving, it sinks to the bottom of the bucket.
5) Hoover and damp dust everything using the above solution that has been recomended. Then seal all the relavant soft covered furniture (sofas), soft furnishings, beds and matresses and finally cover carpets with foundation plastic using duct tape to seal the edges.
6) Wash out a kitchen detergent bottle that has a squirty spray handle on it and fill it with the borax solution. In the yard, spray the whole of the underside of the dog or other animal, you may have to refil the bottle several times for large animals. when you have reached saturation point on the underside change the spray bottle over to the large sponge and use this to pour the solution on the animals back from neck to tail. Finally we come to the head and the moste sensitive area around the eyes. First put a drop mineral oil in the eyes, then use cottonwool balls dipped in the solution and go over the face very gently and very carefully around the eyes. Pay particular attention to the ears, the muzel and under the chin making sure that they are saturated down to the skin.
7) Lovely now the house is sorted and the animals are treated there is just the humans to attend to. Though dog mites including mange (dog scabies) cannot live and reproduce on humans for more than a few days they can live long enough to reinfest the animal when you groom or stroke it. So, I am afraid its the full body treatment for the whole of the family. You can uese any of the following, Derbac M, Quellada M, Lyclear Dermal or a 30 gram tube of 5% permethrin cream. Make sure that you cover every bit of skin area and under the feet and rub it into your finger and toe nails too. The human treatment should be done at weekly intervals. Do not use the same incetacide more than three times in three weeks. Of couse if you dont mind a tinted skin, you can easily use the borax treatment on yourself.
8) The borax treatment on the animal should be done every three to four days until the mites are completely cleared and then for ten days after the last signs are gone.
9) During the treatment period, all members of the family should handle the animals only when wearing rubber gloves. Animals should be trained not to go on any furniture during this time. Children should be discouraged from wrestling or cuddling the animal until it is given the all clear.
10) If you find that after this you or your animal is still showing signs of infection then you must enquire with your family to asertain who is not following the rules.
11) When your animal has been clear for ten days you can take the plastic off of your funiture and give them a good hoover. (Don't forget to wash the hoover and its pipes with borax before using it.)
Kind Regards
Stephan Toth
EC: Ted's instructions call specifically for borax, not boric acid!
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1. Do I shampoo him first then rinse then soak him with the soloution? Tonight I put him in the bathtub dry then soaked him.
2. If I do shampoo him first, what shampoo do you recomend?
3. Can I pour the solution in a spray bottle for quick problem spots between shampoos and also to disinfect the house? If so, will the soloution go "bad" like "inactivate" after a certain amount of time?
4. The mange is really bad around his snout and eyes. What d you suggest for these areas? I dont want to harm him in any way.
Thank you in advance for your help!
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i do have some questions though. is it ok to mix just the 3% hydrogen peroxide with borax to make a paste to put on the worst spots? and does it hurt them if it gets in their eyes? i read something that said u could put mineral oil drops in their eyes. Is that safe??
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Now, after 2 Month, all problems are gone: hairs are growing back and she is playfull like before. This was (and is) our strategy:
To start, we gave her a regular dose of Ivamectine in form of pills. The dose had to be repeated after 7 - 10 days.
In the same time, we started to wash her with Teds remedy (borax peroxide) - twice for two weeks, then one time a week for another month. And to support her imune system, we gave her dayly 2 - 4 Tablespoons of Linaza Oil. Itching stopped after 3 days. One week later we had - mentaly - a new dog. 1 Month later hairs started to grow back - not very fast but one could see the progress.
The peroxide turned the black hair into chestnut, temporaly as we figured, but we thought it may be time now to quit with peroxide - the job was done.
Since than, we wash her once a week with a solution of Neem Oil and some drops Soup as emulgator. This is 1 Tablespoon 100% Neem Oil, a few drops of liquid Soup and 1 Liter Water, Shake well and wash the doggie with a sponge until all used. Neem Oil keeps all parasites away and is absolutely harmless to your dog and yourself. Read about Neem Oil in the Internet! We found 1 Liter for aprox. 20 $, for our Lola it is a one year supply, a chiwawa can cover his whole lifespan with this.
Thanks Ted !