Mouth, Teeth, and Gums: Oral and Dental Pet Health

I am so happy and proud of you and for doing what is best for your kitties. I just took one of my babies to the vet and found out he has tooth resorption like another kittie I have, She was healed by a holistic vet. My MittenBear also had several, 5 extractions. Not good. They wanted to do more but I told them to just extract the really bad ones. Now it's time to heal him. Ironically he LOVES coconut oil. That's why this posting caught my eye. Can you explain how you care for your babies teeth a little more in detail? You apply some coconut oil to her teeth daily? With a cloth? Will a Q-Tip work? He was so addicted to it for a while I was applying it to his fur and he'd lick it off but after a while he got greasy looking so I stopped. I didn't know it might be helping with his tooth resorption. He knew I guess.

I'd appreciate any tips. So would my MittenBear. I'd rather not use the same holistic vet I used before.

Thanks...Al

I have given my 13 year old cat coconut oil before. I have notice pawing his mouth when eating. I placed a small amount of oil to the top if his mouth with my finger. He immediately started pawing his mouth and showing signs of pain. The oil was room temperature. First time he showed reaction!

Cats don't like things on the top of their mouths.

I just recently was told by the vet that my 5 month old kitten needs to have all of her teeth removed due to severe gingivitis. I am looking for anything I can do to prolong the extraction of her teeth. She also just had an issue with a prolapsing anus. I am at a loss and panic. I've taken her off processed foods and am looking for any and all homeopathic advice I can get before we look into surgery. The only option the vet gave us was surgery. No other recommendations. I am up for any and all recommendations. We are so worried and devastated.

Hey Brandee,

Cats can suffer from a condition called stomatitis, and in some cases removal of all the teeth is the treatment of choice. Please confirm with your vet the diagnosis to be sure what you are dealing with. Next google "homeopathic treatment for stomatitis in cats" and "home remedies for stomatitis in cats" and also "natural remedies for stomatitis in cats". Please let us know what you do and keep us posted!

I'm impressed. My cats won't let me do all of that. I can't even get close to their mouths. One of my cats had all his teeth pulled except front top and bottom little ones and top fangs. But his mouth gets red and sore still.

What type of dog do you have? I have a lab about 125lbs. Just wondering on the dose of coconut oil

Does coconut oil works really good for cat gingivitis?

Hey CJ! You are responding to a post that is over 2 years old, so I will try to help with a reply.

Coconut oil fat is nearly 50% lauric acid, which is a compound with amazing health promoting properties. It contains antifungal, antibacterial, antiviral properties that boost the immune system. Lauric acid is converted by the body into monolaurin and makes coconut oil effective in treating many bacterial and fungal infections.

The kind of coconut oil that best retains its healing properties is virgin. raw, centerfuge extracted, but cold pressed or expeller pressed can be good also.

Coconut oil melts very easily and can be easily added to your cat's wet food.

One thing to consider feeding your cat once his mouth has healed is raw bones. Raw chicken wings, raw chicken necks are the right size for a cat and eating them will provide the natural tooth brush action to keep your cat's teeth and gums clean.

Thank you Thank you Thank you!!!!

My Coal will never let me near his mouth let alone his gums...any other suggestions...please ....with FIV, steroids and antibiotics are not a long term solution.

Put it on his paw. He will lick it off.

How long did you give it to your cat before it started to help?

I need this, how much oil my kitty is suffering and she's 4yrs only with FIV and she can't eat her extra gravy lovers feast now . she can drink water but she cries out . I need help and can't afford teeth extraction

Jane, your news about how effective coconut oil was for your cat sounds so wonderful - I'm so worried about having to pay $500 each year ($300 just for anaesthetic) to have my cat's teeth scraped - can you tell me what product of coconut oil you used? Or maybe what's its properties are, as listed on the pack? Perhaps I can match them. Thanks for your advice.

Hi Jane - any updates on how well your cat is doing after a few months?
I have 2 cats with this and have started mixing coconut oil into their wet food. I haven't seen improvement yet after a week or two. This week, I'll try putting it directly on their front paws to see if that makes a difference. Thanks for any insight you can provide.

I'm going to try coconut oil for my dog's gums. I had her teeth cleaned, , , but tartar builds up fast. I am hoping the oil will help her gums, they run with pus, , , , feel so sorry for her....I tried it once and she loves it out of a spoon...really hoping for good results..she is 17 lbs.....

I never thought of using Coconut oil for my cats or dogs, I have a few rescue pets and one older cat feels the need to chew on some thing hard like my plants even if it's real or fake. Then I have a very old dog, her teeth are really bad. I heard that the inside of a banana peel is good to whiten every one's teeth. Now the big question is how would I go about applying coconut oil on my cats teeth? She is worse than trying to tie a horse down (chuckles) Again I seem to get sick when I try coconut oil. I am using Olive Leaf and it's great as a probiotic. I'm kind of wondering if it's ok to use on my cat as well, she throws up constantly. Thank you.

How long does it take to work? My cat has had stomatitis for 1 year now

My 20 year old Siamese Lilac cat just had his teeth scraped for the first time, he has swollen infected gums and thought I would use coconut oil??? I see several posts in here so it seems safe, just do not want to upset his digestion??

Hi Shirley,

I started giving my 17 year old cat max about 1/4 of a tsp of coconut oil in his wet food/day - working up to to get a little more in him to help with current inflammation/infection/swollen gums after also just getting his teeth cleaned (and losing some too).

Apologies, I'm not sure where I read this but recently in looking for home remedies one source said 1/4-1/2 tsp for cats up to 10lbs. My understanding was that depending on your cat's health and levels of toxicity, you might see something like indigestion (or other symptoms that look like cold/flu) because it helps detoxify, but ultimately it does not usually cause such, and that will dissipate with continued use.

We had a very tame cat show up at our house, so tame we knew he was a pet. The wife took him to the vet to be scanned for a chip and yes he had one but the owner never responded to the calls/e mails so we ended up with yet another rescue.

A week or so later, we took him to the vet for an assessment. Vet estimated him to be a young male maybe 2 and found severe stomatitus in his mouth. Prescribed a steroid shot, then anti-biotics and we are feeding all of our rescues the best non grain foods recommended on this and other sites.

My wife took him in again yesterday and vet now suggests a complete tooth extraction, or maybe almost complete. Seems excessive both in to the cat and to the pocketbook. $400 per quadrant.

What are some addition remedies before we subject this cat to this extreme treatment. This seems more severe than declawing a cat.

Hey Sky Pilot!

Your vet is not trying to milk you out of every red cent - full tooth extraction is one very effective way in resolving this condition. See images here:

http://www.mypetsdentist.com/feline-stomatitis.pml

This info from around the web:

"There are probably a number of factors that contribute to the development of this chronic inflammation in the mouth and gums. Although the exact cause is unknown, it is primarily thought that some cats may have a hypersensitivity or allergic reaction to bacterial plaque and are called 'plaque-intolerant.' All we know is that cats with this disease have an abnormal immune response."

Source: http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?c=1+2121&aid=368

Successful treatment in some cases has involved frequent and routine brushing of the cat's teeth along with antibiotics and steroids to suppress inflammation.

Natural approaches might involve colostrum to help build up the immune system; quercetin and/or yucca for inflammation; turmeric for both antimicrobial properties and inflammation; coconut oil for antimicrobial properties and inflammation. In addition alkalizing the water with baking soda may help by balancing the PH which helps all the bodies systems.

Good luck and please report back!

How has the coconut oil worked on the stomatitis? Do you do this daily?

Thank you so much for your help!! My poor babies (one 5 months & 13 month) with bleeding gums, etc, Don't understand :( they eat wellness canned food, litter wheat fine with pine pellets. My heart is hurting watching them suffer too. Doing PB 8, Colital silver, vitamins. Plus gave antibotic shot. I pray this works. So happy I had it here!! Thanks again :)

How is it working? Any other tips? Hope he is better. Thanks Kim

How often did you give your cat the coconut oil? My cat has stomatitis and my very said the same bout my poor kitty and I just want to help her the best way and make sure she gets all better

Our cat was recently diagnosed with stomatitis as well. We have been using the coconut oil on him for 2 days now, how long was it till you noticed a difference?

I have over 12 years old cat. She had 5 teeth badly inflamed the only solution was to be all extracted. Getting to see a different opinion on the procedure and my vet suggested it may not be a good idea as she may be too old and may not make it. The cost would be from 500 - 600 Ca dollars. We love this cat and there was no way to put her thru so much pain and suffering. - or even to think we may loose her.

So I started to treat her the way I know. I put 1-2 homeopathic Arnica Montana 200ch into tiny amount of water to dissolve and put into her milk...She loves milk..... I also mix wet food with water and clay dissolved in it.... (she won't eat for weeks or only a bit and this was the first time she started to eat slowly once, I started to add clay/water to the wet food.) After weeks I noticed she had one tooth kinda loose on one side of her mouth.

Than I started to add to Arnica... also homeopathic Silicea 30ch 2-3 tablets....it took another 2 weeks and the loose tooth all came out and her mouth is totally healed. Silicea would EXPEL the loose tooth...this cat was in such a rough shape we all thought she will die...NOOO she is super happy now, bouncing around, , , eating like crazy now...be patient, it takes time and it took about 6 months in total...but we have now super happy, bouncy cat again....

Tony, the kitten is driving us crazy with his teething. Please me out.

Coconut oil!!! Get the raw, virgin, cold or expeller pressed. It's great to use on any kind of infection! I use it on anything and everything.

You may want to check the litter. Some cats have a reaction to pine. Blue buffalo makes a great litter made from walnuts. Best of luck with the furry babies.

How often and for how long did you need to use coconut oil? My vet also said the same treatment was necessary..... But I looked up alternative methods and came across your post. I was lucky to have some raw coconut oil at home and tried it immediately. My cat was not fussy licking his paws with some coconut oil on them. Look forward to hearing from you soon.

My 14yr plus cat has an abscess or tumor on inside of his cheek. Vet gave him an antibiotic shot and I think I may try some coconut oil. I ordered today a pet probiotics for him. The testimonials mainly are IBD and diarrhea issues, but any health condition or immune deficit can usually be helped with probiotics. This brand has 22 of them and also beta glucans I believe. I also have another kitty with stomatitis issues tho her teeth themselves don't look bad. May try the coconut oil on her as well.

Has the coconut oil helped the stomatitis for your kitty?

My 14 year old has stomatitis and has been on steroid shots and antibiotics and is starting not to respond. Also, someone told me vitamin c helps.

Thank you,

Robin

And try colliodal silver with the vit c.

I have a 17 yr. old cat Armand who has an enlarged heart and a bad tooth. The vet said he needed teeth cleaned and one tooth is bad, but the anesthetic is too dangerous. His teeth do not look bad to me but they must be because he constantly has a bloody discharge coming out of his left nostril. His gums are so pale and look a bit swollen. He is on that blasted fruity pink antibiotic and lasix, benazepril, and 30mg of CoQ10. Would Arnica Montana help him? Any suggestions or advice on his bad tooth or his heart condition would be greatly appreciated. I am putting coconut oil up around gums but there must be more I can do and I hate giving him that blood pressure pill because am convinced it makes him feel worse. Am also giving him Standard Process Feline Cardiac Support.

Arnica won't hurt him whatsoever. In fact, any homeopathic medicine is safe. I am looking after two cats for someone and they are in terrible shape. Skin and bone. One has Felv and they both have stomatitis. I have another stray I have been looking after and he has these growths at the back of his throat. I tried Colloidal Silver. Make sure you use the pure and not the one mixed with water. In the three cats I squirted it about 6 or seven times a day for about 8 days and then three times for 5 days. Two of the cats had lumps in their throats and they are gone and the growths are slowly disappearing. They also slobbered something terrible and their breath smelled bad. For those two cats I have them Merc Cor and Phosporous 30C three times a day. The one cat had a white nose and pale gums. I gave her Calcarea Carbonica 30C and Nitricum Acidum three times a day and her gums and nose are going back to pink. I also gave her Arnica as she is very old and her bones are sore. I start the day with the Phosphorous for their gums/stomatitis and The Calcarea Cabonica 30C and Nitricum Acidum 30C a few hours later. I alternate them so as not to give them at the same time. The other cats are only on Phosphorous and Merc Corr for the Stomatitis and they are gaining weight and their fur shines. There is a natural appetite inducing remedy that I get from the Pet Store called High Calorie Nutritional Gel for cats/dogs which not only gives them an appetite, it is full of vitamins to help the body heal. Some cats or dogs will lick it off your finger but if not just put some on the tip of your finger and put it on the roof of their mouth. You can just pour Colloidal Silver in a water bowl instead of water for a few days. I find putting it in the water will not help serious problems. Also homeopathic tend to not work well if given with antibiotics or other drugs. I had to put down a cat years ago because he had a liver disease and I could not afford the thousands of dollars to heal him. A few years later I started reading about homeopathic. Since then I have had two cats with liver disease and treat them with two homeopathic pills at a cost of $14.00 every 3 weeks or so. I don't take homeopathic myself but I have seen it work miracles with cats. For pain, you can't beat Arnica.

Colloidal silver, -my cat has a swollen bottom lip, and this happens when I feed her wet food instead of dry food. Usually it will go away if I make a little salt water solution and bathe her lip with that. But this time it has not worked and will not go away.

I bought some of the Colloidal silver spray. Can I spray that on her lip? and can I spray her teeth with it? or will it harm her? What I mean is the spray kind different than the kind you can put in their food bowl?

Dear Claudia,

Yes, you can spray her lip and her teeth. The nice thing is that it would even be safe if some got in your kitty's eyes. Unless the ingredients list something other than colloidal silver, it is the same as what you could give internally. We use colloidal silver on people and pets internally and externally often.

~Mama to Many~

I use a teaspoon in bowl of water but you may want to consider using it directly in his food a few times a day if his teeth are bad. Just don't over use he may get diarrhea.

I've also had what I consider to be amazing results with using colloidal silver in my dogs drinking water. Our 10 year old French Bulldog has awful teeth, having had several rotten ones removed over the years. I was told by the vet due to Frenchies having very crooked teeth and big jowels to hide germs and food scraps that they would always need attention. Her mouth has always smelled AWFUL. I recently bought some colloidal silver and decided to try it out and saw results within a couple of days. Now her breath is not smelly at all. I've also noticed her general well being has improved- she's more active and bubbly. I use 1 tablespoon colloidal silver to a bowl of water refreshing both water and silver daily. I've been doing this for 4 days now and will stop after 7 to see how things go. The amount of colloidal silver may be on the high side for her body weight but she had a significant problem so I'm treating it as an acute infection.

Jane --- your post made me really mad! What gall! When my German shepherd/husky mix needed stitches, she was twelve years old and they had trouble getting her out of the anaesthesia. It is a great risk. What greed! What insensitivity to an aged animal's need!

And threats for you on top of it!

I have a seventeen yr. old rescue poodle with bad mouth and teeth. I have to presoak his dog biscuits. I have used MMS spray for his mouth and turmeric powder in honey is also good. A dab of celtic sea salt on the tongue helps. Essiac tea, one tsp. of the decoction on the tongue twice a day is very potent, or with a thing to irrigate teeth from the tooth section of the pharmacy. Can't think of the word right now. Also chamomile tea in small amounts of food. Also sage tea applied with irrigation tool.

So there is much. Drinking water with H203 hydrogen perox alone is excellent.

What a brutal procedure and attitude. I am mad. Don't let him intimidate you. Stand up to such example of manipulation for money.

Namaste, Om===== *waterpick

Hey Jane!

I agree with Om that your post is very troubling; my 'take away' is a bit different. I have never heard of a vet threatening to report someone for cruelty/neglect - so *for sure* take her in for a second opinion ASAP.

As to the original diagnosis of gingivitis, periodontal disease and abscess - your first vet, and certainly the second opinion vet - should be able to show you these disease conditions in your dog's mouth, or at least point to symptoms present as to why the diagnosis of abcess was made [the other two conditions are obvious to the uneducated eye]. All three disease conditions with the bacteria and toxins associated with them, add stress to your dog's heart and kidneys. Failure to treat the mouth very easily and quickly can lead to cardiac complications and renal failure.

My only advice is to get the second opinion - possibly from a wholistic vet - to legally satisfy the first vet that you are not neglecting your dog, and to find a diagnosis you have faith in so you can begin the appropriate treatment of your choice ASAP.

Hi Jane, Theresa and all ---- it was a few years ago when a lady posted on EC about being forced via a vet and a local animal organization to purchase the meds which she found did not help for her mangy dog what seemed to be a court order.

So it does happen and it is clear in my mind still.

Years ago I had a bajenji mix from the Carribean that was on death row. Water on the lungs and emaciated. A person on the street accosted me for cruelty, got in touch with the SPCA and I had an inspector at my door. He knew me and asserted that the dog was properly looked after. The vet that I had seen before that said the animal was in too low health to have success with removal of fluid from the chest cavity.

So he had a better option than being abandoned for convenience and when he died, he had received ample love from us.

Yes, it does happen. And, as I, doing rescue, only adopted needy, unwanted and sick animals, have faced that situation several times.

Namaste, Om

Hello Hope,

Thank you so much for your replies. I appreciate it. The vet did call, and the spc got in touch with me and accused with cruelty. I am looking for a second opinion, but I am concerned where to find such an open mind vet that will truly want the dog to be healthy, and not just the money behind it...I am traumatized because of that vet...

This vet also suggested that if I won't do the surgery I should put her to sleep, and she gave me 3 days to decide...

Since you mentioned you had them in your door few times, would you be able to tell me how it goes with them? What should I do?

If I get second opinion and it is better that the previous one, will they accept it? How did you fight them? what can I do?

I am so sad and it never happened to me , never in my life a vet accused me or threatened me . I wish all dog owner would treat their dogs as I do. And, yes, mine are also rescued from the streets, but I picked her up from the street almost 14 years ago and she is part of our family.

Also,

What is MMS spray ?

Where can I get all the things that you mentioned?

The h203, in the water, where can I buy it and which company should I go with? I assume there are few of them out there, how would I know which one to buy? how many drops should I put in the water?

Thank you so much!!!

Please help me in any way you can, I feel so helpless. Thank you.

Theresa,

Thank you so much for the reply. I myself never heard about it before, but the reality is that she threatened and called...unfortunately there are those out there.

I read here in previous posts that there is Colloidal Silver, slippery elm and DMSO.

Where can I get those and how much can I give the dog and how...as well , what is DMSO?

Thank you so much for your help, I appreciate it.

I wish I just did not go there at the first place, I was in the wrong time, at the wrong place, meeting the wrong person, and now my dog life is depending on that.

Thank you.

Hey Jane!

Your location has posted as USA and now Canada; where are you? I only ask because you should be able to locate a holistic vet to give you a second opinion - and a holistic vet will be open to alternative therapies such as the colloidal silver et al.

Search for a holistic vet here - it does have Canadian vets:

http://www.ahvma.org/Widgets/FindVet.html

Hello Jane --- for medications ask Theresa which I see you have done. Let's see what comes of that first.

Where do you live?

I would even call organizations out of town and ask. They know much. Explain your case.

Try to contact a rescue organization in your area and see if they are amenable in supporting you. I know a clinic in East Vancouver where you might find sympathy for your case. (Apex) Try to call Angels Rescue in Merritt for additional help; 'cause I don't know where you live. where do you live?

Keep calm. See to your dog. Theresa is so knowledgeable. First, you must be protected.

Let's keep in touch. Namaste, Om

(in Hope, BC)

Hi Theresa,

My first post was posted by the moderator of the website and she probably thought I was from USA, I did not post it by myself. Now that I posted it by myself I fixed it...sorry for the confusion.

During my current research for helping my dog I found the website you mentioned , thank you for referring me as well, and I scheduled an appo with holistic vet .

In the meantime I am trying to get as much as info as I can to start give the dog all those great natural remedies you all refer to and have wonderful results , hoping that her condition will be even better than now.

I checked on line about the colloidal silver, DMSO, slippery elm , but I am confused as for which company to purchase them of, which concentration of the product, and to find a product I can trust it to be safe and good quality.

Would you please be able to assist me with these products?

Thank you

Hey Jane!

Read up on EC's page on DMSO; I pay particular attention to Ted's advice.

https://www.earthclinic.com/supplements/dmso.html

Also where to buy in Canada:

https://www.earthclinic.com/supplements/dmso5.html#canada

You may have already visited EC's page for colloidal silver:

https://www.earthclinic.com/supplements/colloidal_silver.html

I have no first hand advice so cannot recommend a particular brand, but the feedback and comments will give you an idea of what people find is working well.

I have no first hand experience with slippery elm, but it looks to be amazing. I think if you can find a local whole foods co-op you could start there to see if they carry the powder. You might also search "herb store [your city]" and see what results you get. I would get my hands on whatever powder I could just to get started. It appear you would need to make a paste of it and keep it on the gums over night if possible. Not sure how that will work, but if you can do it that would be ideal.

Keep us posted please!

Hi Theresa,

Thank you so mcuh, I appreciate it. I will look on those pages . I found Sovereign Silver at the health store here , but I am guessing it is not the same as Colloidal silver. Can you tell me if this is the same thing?

I also found on line MesoSilver - Nanoparticle Colloidal Silver, which looks a good product , but again, I am not sure this is the one everyone talks about...

If you have any suggestions on them, please share it with me.

Thank you so much for your help!

Hello, Jane --- Meso silver seems to be a good brand. The sovereign brand is just a name but there are many brands. I just finished reading EC's section on colloidal silver - very interesting and educating. Also look online where they sell silver generators. Those sell silver water too and they seem to be well known. Just stay away from too high prices as that is not necessary.

Silver, sprayed on the skin seems to stop the itching and does address the mite issue, too. I like to rotate these remedies such as enzyme cleaner in sprays you find online. Keep in mind that big corporations that deal with janitorial items do not permit a small business that sells an enzyme cleaner, to claim their product kills mites. However, enzyme cleaners work in my experience.

I am about to purchase a silver generator since I am used to make my own and of course, it's only expense is pennies.

Slippery elm has to be done on the stove too, which you can add any liquid. Let it simmer until well emulsified. Low heat. It is a great remedy for digestive problems and to add to medications like a food. When just warm, you can even add honey.

Since mites tend to be behind the eyelids and eyes, a mixture of cold pressed castor oil and VCO smoothed into the eye sockets will suffocate them. It is quite beneficial, too. The same goes for the ears.

Let us know how you are making out. Good luck.

Namaste, Om

I find this may be helpful as Native American Indians used this for years.I have not yet tried this but plan on it soon. I do a lot of searching & re-searching and I have a vet on call just in case. I strongly feel that if one huge nation discovered this remedy and still live then I too will follow suit.Plus the foremost natural remedy is: can pumpkin.

http://umm.edu/health/medical/altmed/herb/slippery-elm

I agree with others that commented regarding the vet reporting you. I think I would first switch vets and get second opinion then I'd report this a-hole vet to BBB, your states consumer protection bureau and lastly look into these suggestions http://www.vetabusenetwork.com/filecomplaint.htm

Hello Jane, I am so outraged by your vet's actions that I can hardly give you good advise right now but I will try.

First, if it were me I would report that money grubbing do badder to whatever veternarian medical board you have available. Reporting an owner who obviously is trying to help their pet just because they don't want to put an aged companion at risk of death through surgery is the most cruel misuse of office I have ever encountered in my life! I worked as an animal control officer five years and I assure you if you had been reported to me I would be on your side. And I would have tried to help you find a viable solution to the problem.

That being said, I agree with the colloidal silver, you can just put it in her water so that every time she drinks she is getting the benefit of the antibiotic action. Also I would start getting raw organic apple cider vinegar in her system. You can mix it with purified water and give it to her in a syringe. I also agree with irrigation, but using the ACV with a bit of water to take the potential sting out. It would also be beneficial to rub her gums with aloe gel afterwards, as well as being healing it will be soothing.

As to finding good products; Bragg's is the best ACV and you can get it online. Nature's Sunshine Products and Nature's Plus are top of the line.

I was told I had to get my 14 year old Mini Poodle in fir a teeth cleaning........she almost died, they gave her way too much knock out drug she looked like a Heroin Addict when I picked her up. Didn't eat for 10 days......Vet"s response oh she is just sensitive to the drugs.......ya think.. NEXT

This is your Pet and don't let anybody bully you into doing anything that you are not comfortable doing...intuition is a wonderful thing......

Okay I am in my 60s and have been owned by quite a few dogs (currently 3) The worst problem I have seen with disgusting neglected teeth in dogs is that destroys their kidneys. I lost two very loved terriers to this problem. The each went at 15 years old and each spent the final months on what I call doggy dialysis, which involves flushing toxins via IV bags feeding fluids under their skin every day. It was not great quality of life for them either. BOTH of them DID keep having oral surgeries over their lives to try to keep up with the problem but we did not do enough maybe in finding some other answer.

IF a dog really is still healthy enough to have SUPER rotting teeth pulled then I would be miffed if an owner (that could afford it) refused to give their pet a chance.

Having said that, we also DID lose a beloved dog to surgery (not oral) It was a "routine" spaying done at low cost by vet trying to do good I think. But our little gal went into shock the same night after we brought her home...it has been suggested it could be from lack of pain medication? THAT makes me mad if so because NO ONE even asked us about it!? We would GLADLY have paid considerably for pain meds if we knew?? We just ASSUMED then that the vet did the best he could for a dog...WHY would they not say "HEY do you wish pain meds for you dog?"

Every dog I have lost has been so hard to take. The teeth thing? Is not cut and dried, the teeth can easily get Life threatening as can surgery ...not an issue solved by ignorant emotions and assumptions...of course there are crooked vets. and of course there are stingy pet owners too that would rather not look at the facts. And online? Who really KNOWS what the truth is. Shame on anyone not being honest about what they know or don't know though... I think anyway...

I am so sorry to hear what that vet did you to. And to add to the trauma of having your dog sick, just what you need, the vet to accuse you of cruelty. I would write a review about that vet and put it on the internet. That is our only hope these days as some professionals don't seem to have much in the way of ethics or common sense. Exposing him for what he did will have the desired effect I hope.

Hi Petrina --- how I enjoy the names of your cats.

When I did some research on EC, people mentioned that their pets teeth were white and healthy from DE (diatomaceous earth) in their food. On earthworkshealth there is supposed more info. on DE. That was from a post on EC. Maybe this will be of help.

Namaste, Om

Hey Petrina!

Here is an oral spray that may be helpful for you: PetzLife Oral Care Spray - Spray it on teeth once or twice daily; It's safe for cats www.petzlife.com.

Thank you Theresa. I will def give this a try.

Petrina

I have dogs and cats, both. It's only my elder dog who's had issues with that concrete-type plaque you're describing. I got a puffer and some food grade diatomaceous earth - have been puffing it onto her teeth for about 3 weeks now (3x daily - her teeth were REALLY bad) and we're winning! That nasty stuff is just coming right off without having to put my Grrrl through a traumatic vet event. It works, for real, really!

Quart water bowl with 1/16 tsp sea salt for small dog...up to 1/4 tsp for large dog. Let them drink it up . Also make them some coconut oil treats....they love it and it kills bacteria that is causing the pain. I read a lady made some activated charcoal biscuits for her chickens but her kids ate them....I tried it...it fights all kinds of germs too.

Hi Anton,

We had our ten year old cat's teeth cleaned a few months ago. The vet told us that if her teeth needed to be removed, she would still be able to eat, even dry cat food. She tested our cat's blood first to see if her kidneys and liver could withstand the anesthesia, and the blood work came back OK. Our cat's teeth were fine after she cleaned them, and none had to be removed.

I am wondering if your cat's liver and kidneys were OK for the teeth cleaning? I hope you were able to feed her some soft, canned food or fresh meat or fish, cut up very finely, if he might eat? I would have reservations about subjecting him to surgery and anesthesia again, so soon. I would also question why the teeth need to be removed if they were OK at the time of surgery? I have used a small amount of colloidal silver topically on my cat, and think you could rub a little bit on his sore gums perhaps? A little bit of coconut oil could also work. I hope he fells better and starts eating again soon.

Best wishes.

My heart broke to hear about your poor cat. It must have been such a shock for her/him to have so many teeth taken out at once. She probably doesn't know what the heck happened. What are the vets thinking? Honestly, some of them sound like sadists. I can't deal with the regular medical "profession". They seem to be so out of touch. Your cat wouldn't want to eat right now I can imagine. Animals fast when they are sick. Fasting is incredibly restorative. One thing I can vouch for is colloidal silver. It is amazing. It is tasteless. My dog is very fussy and I am going through teeth problems with him presently. Sometimes I put some colloidal silver in a syringe and squeeze it into the side of his mouth and other times I put about a teaspoon full in his water. I always see improvement in him the next day. I feel for you, as my dog is having some problems with teeth too.

Ellen from USA -- from Om

So sorry to hear about your little one. At the moment I am treating a tooth abcess and I am using colloidal silver with DMSO for the pain with very good results.

Give him a tsp. of colloidal silver with two drops of DMSO using a water pick, frequently. Swelling will go down and pain disappear. The DMSO will take the silver deep down to kill pathogens. In between you could also take warm chamomile tea and irrigate the gums with a water pick. That would soothe the nerves, too. It is alright to have it go down the gullet. Stay clear of antibiotics.

My good thoughts for your success. Om

I was going to use Colloidal Silver ..and a friend told me about essential oils ...and what is DMSO? ...I have already ordered the oils ...and I never give antibiotics ..it is a cancer tumor ..I don't own a water pick.

Hey Eileen!

I'm sorry to hear about your TFT having cancer in his jaw :(

Please read up on bone cancer remedies on EC: https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/bone-cancer-treatment.html

Certainly the essiac tea applies, but you may also find a remedy that resonates with you as you read through the remedies on that page.