Apple Cider Vinegar
★★★★★
Multiple Remedies
My Westie mix female was having similar symptoms. After going to Both a natural vet and a conventional one , it was concluded that she has COPD. She has had Chest xrays, U/S of major organs, EKGs, lab tests of all sorts-including heart worm and all negative for cancer or infection. She was treated for "lung worms" but later vet said she doubted that was her problem. Now, she takes Lasix, theophylline, Pneumotropin PMG, tumeric, garlic, vit E, fish oil, and and another med to boost her immunty (mammary tumors). One homeopathic remedy that helps Her is ipeacac 30C Every 5 days or so- helps her cough up pleghm.
Onion and Garlic
★☆☆☆☆
WARNING!
The following is a Copy n Paste info; 'All close members of the onion family (shallots, onions, garlic, scallions, etc.) contain compounds that can damage dogs' red blood cells if ingested in sufficient quantities. A rule of thumb is "the stronger it is, the more toxic it is." Garlic tends to be more toxic than onions, on an ounce-for-ounce basis. While it's uncommon for dogs to eat enough raw onions and garlic to cause serious problems, exposure to concentrated forms of onion or garlic, such as dehydrated onions, onion soup mix or garlic powder, may put dogs at risk of toxicosis. The damage to the red blood cells caused by onions and garlic generally doesn't become apparent until three to five days after a dog eats these vegetables. Affected dogs may seem weak or reluctant to move, or they may appear to tire easily after mild exercise. Their urine may be orange-tinged to dark red in color. These dogs should be examined by a veterinarian immediately. In severe cases, blood transfusions may be needed.'
Second Copy n Paste info; 'Onions/Garlic cause toxicity by oxidizing an oxygen-transporting protein called hemoglobin in the red blood cells. When oxidized, hemoglobin forms clumps which can't carry oxygen as well. These small clumps, called Heinz bodies can be seen in the red blood cells when the blood is viewed under a microscope, especially when the cells are stained with a special stain called New Methylene Blue. Although a number of other compounds can cause Heinz bodies, when a veterinarian sees Heinz bodies in many cat or dog red blood cells, onion toxicity is the first differential that leaps out on the list.'
I only wanted to put this out there because my little Westie - Oscar has COPD. I nearly killed my little guy on Monday by giving him a very small handful of chopped up cooked chicken in his food. I never thought about the dehydrated onion and garlic powder I had used on the meat when I gave him the food :( . I had used a lot :( . The response to the food was immediate. His throat almost closed completely before he even got to lick his plate. It makes me cry to even think about it. Due to several reasons there is no vet available. I was on the net immediately trying to figure out what was going on. The above copy n paste was info I had found. Five yrs. ago Oscar had his spleen removed, the only defense the little guy had to help clean his blood on his own. If you google 'dogs and onions' and do some reading you will know what I mean. Over time the marrow in his bones will help to clean his blood from the Heinz bodies.
In the mean time - I have been giving him Turmeric 1/4 tsp. every four hrs. to help with swelling/inflammatory air way. 1/2 tsp. Organic Virgin Cold - Pressed Coconut Oil for healing properties and to help bowel movement. Two eyedropper drops of Food grade Hydrogen Peroxide 3% in Two liters of filtered water. It is helping. I also turned the heat in the house up to 80 degrees Fahrenheit for two reasons, 1) To induce panting, he could not breath on his own unless he panted. 2) Panting cools a dog down. I had to make him breath. I also didn't want him to get sicker because the panting gave him the chills.
Monday evening and Tuesday I thought I was going to lose the best little guy I had ever known. Wednesday, the panting was not as intense, there was a sliver of hope. Today, Thursday, he is walking on his own from one end of the house to the other (then rests for a bit). His breathing today is better. The heat is at 78 and he does not need to pant now when laying down. He can drink his water with out choking. It is now 11:30pm he has slept almost peacefully for three hrs straight. I think we are going to make it.
I must go now, it is time to wake him up and give him his medicine and a bathroom break. If this happens to you, I recommend your FIRST response should be to take the dog to a VET but sometimes that option is not available. So this was the action I took. Also - do not encourage your pet to move, walk or exercise in any way. Carry your buddy everywhere, including the bathroom. If you can, put soft food with medicine mix on a plate not a bowl so the nose is not pushing against anything. Hold food up for dog to eat so the head is not forced into a down position blocking food or air consumption. Hold water up for dog to drink. Encourage your dog to lay down while feeding or drinking. And of course Try your best to keep your cool. They are scared enough already and having them watch you cry is not going to help their stress level at all. Do what I did, after medication wait a few minutes to make sure they are okay. Go to the bathroom and release your own stress, don't be long. Then go back and cuddle your pooch. It will do you both good.
Thanks to God and to Earthclinic for the help. I would not have known about using the Hydrogen peroxide if I hadn't been guided to this site two weeks ago looking for Borax information. Thank you Ted for the effort you put into this place. You are an invaluable person and I appreciate your help. From Oscars mom.
(Mpls., Mn)
03/06/2015
Hey Oscar's Mom!
Sorry to hear about Oscar's health scare and so glad that the hydrogen peroxide remedy brought Oscar some relief!
I do want to point out that what you describe sounds more like a food allergy - anaphylactic shock - rather than a toxic reaction to garlic and onions.
While it is true that onions and garlic in large quantities are toxic to dogs - you would have to sit your dog down and feed him 50 cloves of raw garlic for a toxic dose - the symptoms from such a poisoning would result in anemia [lack of red blood cells to carry oxygen] and lethargy, NOT an immediate reaction of a swollen throat; that reaction is an allergic reaction.
One possibility for you to consider for Oscar's COPD are some remedies on EC's COPD page:
https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/copd-treatment-chronic-obstructive-pulmonary-disease.html
Also pay particular attention to Jack from Toledo OH for his remedy for emphysema/COPD:
https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/emphysema2.html
Lastly, you might consider taking Oscar to the vet to rule out a collapsing trachea which commonly afflicts the small breeds.
(British Columbia, Canada)
03/06/2015
Hey Theresa!
Thanks for the links, I will check them out.
I still stand by my Warning. I understand the over-all of large amounts of garlic and onion point you are getting at. Each dog is different and will have a different reaction to any substance.
Yes, Oscar was having an allergic reaction ( for the first time ) to both the onion powder and the garlic powder but it didn't help that I had been giving him food like this off and on for most of his life. It was my own ignorance that I didn't know the depths of what an onion and garlic can do over the long haul to a dog. I do now.
With Oscar having no spleen you can cut your theory to him only needing to eat 50 cloves down to him only needing to eat 12.5 cloves. In other words Down to 1/4th that it would/could take to make him ill. (I'm only giving an example here, since we are not including a discussion of the Size or Breed or Health condition of a Dog digesting Garlic.) Plus don't forget he was having onion powder with the garlic powder. Both being a powder - a Concentrated form.
I didn't have time or energy yesterday or today to go into Mass depth over Oscar's health history. But I do stand by my Warning and so does my Vet whom Oscar spent most of the morning with today. I also spent every day since Tuesday on the phone updating Oscars' Vet of what was going on and what I was doing for him. The Vet was prepared for the blood test to give him first thing this morning. He does have a light case of Heinz bodies. It was the emergency Vet line Monday night that suggested it was a reaction to the onion and garlic powder, that is why I knew to google it.
So yes he had an allergic reaction initially but combined with the Heinz bodies he had slowly building up in his blood, it did not help his ability to get oxygen to/mixed in his blood. Mondays meal was the meal that finally kicked his health over the edge.
I am also happy to say the Vet says his trachea is still in un-collapsed state but thank you for the suggestion. It is something we check every time we go for a checkup.
I ONLY wanted to tell people what my Vet had said. Don't give your dog onions and garlic of any kind. Over time it 'could/can' have an adverse affect on your pet. In my case it did. I'm not trying to challenge anyone on their own theory. I am only sharing my own experience here.
Oscars' mom.
(Hope, Bc Canada)
03/06/2015
Dr. Goldstein, a vet in NY, wrote a book and mentioned that he gives lots of garlic to his bunch of pets. I rather think that removing the spleen would bring up more problems. I cured a dog with spleen cancer in six months.
So sorry to hear this. I feed garlic in small amounts. If I have too much garlic, I feel very sick. It is the amount that matters as with all good things. Namaste, Om
(Mpls., Mn)
03/07/2015
Hey Oscar's Mom!
Kudos for being so diligent in your care of Oscar!
I do not mean to infer you are providing anything but excellent care, and that care *must* be individualized and tailored to each pet.
I have had experience with dogs crashing from eating onions; I have also had dogs enjoy garlic. My main point was that Oscar was experiencing an allergic reaction - in this case to the garlic, or perhaps an additive to the garlic to make it not clump and pour out of the shaker easily. Normal-typical-standard reaction to too much garlic is anemia. Oscar did react to the garlic, but it was an allergic reaction, not anemia; most pets do not experience anaphylactic shock/closing of airways when they ingest garlic. MOST are OK when they ingest garlic. And too much of a good thing = anemia, not closing of the airways.
It is important to get the facts straight - poor Oscar did experience a life threatening situation that you expertly/intuitively nursed him through - KUDOS to you, and what a long night it must hav been. I just want to make clear to other readers that garlic - most of time time - does NOT cause the airway to swell shut. This was a particular reaction for Oscar and not typical.
And yes, dogs with out spleens are in another league - again, kudos to your expert care Oscar did pull through this.
Thanks so much for sharing Oscar's story - I know it will benefit others.
(British Columbia, Canada.)
03/08/2015
Hi Om, Thank you for the suggestion of the book. I will be checking on that info for sure. I'm excited to read it :).
That is seriously cool about curing the spleen cancer. Congratulations, that is a huge accomplishment. Is that info in the book you recommended?
Thank you for the comment for Oscar. I will just have to make his odd treat in a separate pan. Pity. I could eat garlic until the cows come home. Only one of my two wolf dogs gets sick from it but I kind of think it is a taste preference for him. lol At least that is what it looks like when he rubs his tongue across his blanket after he spits it out. My girl wolf has no problems with it at all.
Oh well, until something serious comes along for me to re-look at garlic (or onions), no one but me will be chomping on it now.
Namaste Om. :) Oscars' mom.
(Hope, Bc, Canada)
03/08/2015
Hello, Oscar's Mom ---
as to Dr. Goldstein's book, he used natural meds made in the US and Chinese traditional herbs. He wrote strongly about vaccinations and their deleterious effects. Yes, he loved to cook for his band of whiskers and wagging tails.
The healing of the spleen came about as there was a large article on my having a final resting place for unwanted, sick and disabled kitties. A man with a large black dog sought my help as he had seen a few vets, sparing no cost only to be told "it may be too late". All there was to be seen on the X-ray some dark places where the spleen is located. Another vet wanted to "excise" the offending organ.
This man had not been conversant with natural remedies, so I had to educate him. Gradually he supplied the daily items for his dog which I believe in as being beneficial :
ESSIAC four herb and all roots included. Daily on empty stomach.
Flaked yeast from the health store for good B vits.
Raw veggies done in the blender/processor.
Kelp powder
1/2 tsp turmeric in the veggies.
A good 3-6-9 oil like hemp seed oil and also coconut oil over the food.
Barley groats or pot barley cooked in the slow cooker with lots of water to soak the 'meat only' kibbles.
Well, in the process he got educated about human diet as well and managed to remember the number of ingredients which had been a bit overwhelming at the outset.
Six months passed. He came in ecstatic - the X-ray showed CLEAR. The woman vet who was so proud about her "excising" skills asked him what he had done. Since then she has , , , , , , , .
The fear of cancer is deliberately infused into the public. So people, cool it and make intelligent decisions which is your birth right.
I must add regarding a couple of posts here, that it is now more than ever hard to help the needy animals because of the cost. Some time ago there was a vet who remained affordable possibly out of compassion. The veterinarian assoc. pulled him on the carpet and that was it. Another affordable vet was slandered and had to close his practice. He is open now using another colleague and still remains below the margin of fees today - for how long?
It is distressing to read about the toxic drugs. Please research and google before administering straight poison. Disease is a business.
Bless you all. Namaste, Om
(British Columbia, Canada.)
03/08/2015
Turmeric, Olive Oil
★★★☆☆
(New Jersey)
04/29/2021
