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Bella is a four year old Havenese mix breed, about 9 lbs. Three days ago I took her to get her rabies vac and they also gave her the combo vac called DHLPP-C. This is for distemper, hepatitis, leptospirosis, parainfluenza and parvovirus. She whimpered excessively immediately after shots were given, and was very shaky for hours following. Over the last three days she is not herself, has vomited twice, had diarrhea, yelps out in pain, shakes, lost her appetite, very lethargic. Last night she cried for over an hour. I am waiting to hear back from vet, who is out of town, to see what I can do to help her. I am feeling so guilty that I didn't ask any questions about what vaccines she was getting and why, as I now know the DHLPP is not required. Any suggestions for readers would be appreciated.
My two Boston Terriers - now one is very sick. He is on keppra three times a day, but now I got them both the bordella. Now my poor dog who is on keppra is so very sick. It's heart breaking. I'm sad. I'm never doing this again.
8 days ago, we took our rescue pet to a vet clinic at a local store to get her first shots ever. We believe she was about 2 years old. Yesterday we put her to sleep. Her lungs and body filled up with fluid. Before being vaccinated she had NO HEALTH ISSUES. We had her for almost a year before taking her to be vaccinated. She was given the usual vaccines we get for out other dog but also a Bordetella nasal vaccine. We NEVER board our dogs. I wish someone could tell me what the cause was. I was not even aware she was being given the Bordetella vaccine. I don't think I will ever have another dog vaccinated except for Rabies. Our family is heartbroken.
Posted by Suseeq (Sydney, Australia) on 06/10/2016
Hi, Francis, I hope you decide to take on another pet as their are many pets out there that need caring people like you. I don't know what the rabies vaccination entail as we don't have rabies in this country, in fact we don't have to vaccinate our pets for anything (owners choice) I vaccinate my dogs every third year for parvo. I dont like putting too many chemicals in their body. Please reconsider, reading your post you have so much to offer.
I also think it is criminal that the state make us vaccinate our animals so often when we could use the new in house titer testing. I also know how important it is not to feed dog food. Feed them as they were in the wild. I lost my dog after 17 years. He only had to rabies shots in his life. I cooked all of his meals. However he never ran loose. And he lived in the house never out of my site. Now vets are saying if you are a few days late in getting a rabies shot you must start over. Until the fix the law I am not going to get another pet. I rescued animals for 20'years and we are destroying their amunen systems. Just my opinion and some animals are allergic to the shot.
Older pets cannot handle Bordatella vaccines or Rabies shots as we experienced with our 13 year old beautiful Border collie mix. He was going up stairs, jumping in the car, and daily walks. This all immediately changed one day after two vaccinations with a slight right sided nose bleed was noted. By the second day, a heavy nose bleed required a visit to emergency with fever. Unfortunately, he became lame in the right rear leg by the third day from the rabies shot. We tried to rehab him back with minimal progress. After two weeks his immune system was so wrecked with a huge abscess in his left front leg appeared over night. Along with terrible decisions and Vet care this poor fella was a victim of pure stupidity. Never never never blindly give vaccines as we caused the death of our own very loved pet being irresponsible idiots allowing incompetent Vets to control. Educate, intuition, and common sense can get you a lot farther and save your pet and yourself a lot of unnecessary grief! We laid him to final rest approximately two weeks after his shots-no more suffering in the hands of humans. He is now in a safer place.
I am distraught and frustrated. I have many questions about the care my dog got at the initial emergency vet visit - it was 9:30 PM and after letting an on-call listen to his breathing over the phone she suggested we go to the emergency clinic that was closer to our home - she called that clinic to relay the symptoms and advise that we were coming. When we arrived they took Gumbo from us for evaluation. A vet tech came in to get our version of symptoms. Along with fast, raspy breathing, not eating, not walking we advised that he had jumped off the back of a sofa earlier in the day. The vet came in and advised that his temp was 103 and that he walked and wagged his tail and that she thought he was just gassious - advised a gas-x and to visit our vet in the morning.
At 6:30 after a long night of no sleep and labored breathing I arrived at our vet's office - his temp was 106 and in grave condition. They administered oxygen and antibiotics and said that the xray showed possible aspiration pneumonia - we were advised to go to the same emergency clinic for him to be put into an oxygen crate - he died late that afternoon. I did not INSIST on a blood test or xray at the emergency vet the prior evening which is eating at me every minute. I wondered at the time why neither was given. I thought that at minimum a blood test and chest xray were warranted. His white count was low on exam the next morning I believe the was pure negligence by the emergency vet the prior evening. Antibiotics and oxygen could have been started 11 hrs earlier and may have made a difference.
Beside the heartache of losing my sweet Gumbo the guilt is intense. ALWAYS go with your gut and question a Vet's actions.
6 months ago at a wellness check my vet said that my 8 year old MaltiTzu needed a Bordetella vaccine - Immediately after he started snorting and started reverse sneezing - Over the next few months he went back to the Vet and relayed the frequent snorting, sneezing and reverse sneezing - the Vet told us to administer Benedryl - the vet said that the Bordatella had nothing to do with the reverse sneezing and coughing -
Yesterday he became lethargic, stopped eating and had labored breathing - it was after hours and we took him to an emergency vet - his temp was 103 - the vet said that he walked fine - tail wagging and that the only thing she saw was that he was gassious - she told us to take him home and give him a gax-x - she said to followup with our vet in the morning - all night his breath was shallow and raspy - he did not sleep and I held him up to enable his breathing - this morning I was at my local vet at 6 am - the vet told us his temp was 106 - very low white count and that the xray showed fluid in his right lung - diagnosed with asperation pneumonia - we took him to a critical care hospital with an oxygen crate - they worked on him all day - they said that it could be bronchial pneumonia - his status deteriorated and he went into total organ failure - he passed this evening - I am convinced that the bordatella was the cause - all of my vets have denied even hearing of bad reactions from bordatella spray vaccine - something needs to be done
In my book on homeopathic medicine for pets, Dr. Don Hamilton DVM, relates that since the high use of rabies shots, aggression is the result and it is also the most injurious injection of all of them. He says that multiple problems arise from vaccinations per se. It is a shame to torture our pets for what is obviously 'business".
I recently took my 2 dogs, an Austrailian Shepard 2 years old 55 pounds and my Little Terrier Mix 15 years old 10 pounds to the Vet for their annual check-up and vaccinations. The Dr. gave them their vaccinations and a Perfect bill of health, which always makes me happy.
That day I kept my eye on them and they both seemed unbothered by the vaccinations or visit. However, the next day I noticed my Little Terrier was sniffling. I didn't pay much attention because the house was a little cold however, the sniffles have not gone away and that was 2-12 months ago. Other than that she is happy, healthy, eating and drinking fine.
Has anyone else had or know of this reaction or what can be done?
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Theresa from Minneapolis was born and raised in the inner city, always wishing she had been raised on a farm.
Her love for creatures great and small began at an early age, starting with caterpillars - which continues to this day, along with an interest in all insects and 'creepy crawlies'.
Theresa's interest in pet health started with a bird keeping hobby at age 14, where she learned from another hobbyist that the simple addition of Apple Cider Vinegar (ACV) in a bird's drinking water kept fungal infections away; she was able to share this with her avian vet who in turn prescribed it to her own clients; Theresa was surprised to learn that she could teach her vet a thing or two. This important lesson - that each of us can be a teacher - was a turning point for Theresa, and fueled her quest for the knowledge held in lore, and remedies passed by word of mouth. That quest for knowledge continues to this day, as new and old remedies alike are explored. She may not have experience with a particular issue, but she will research it to the best of her ability and share what she finds freely, in the hopes that you can heal or improve your pet's health.
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Two thoughts come to mind when I read your post: homeopathic [pill form] thuja occidentalis may help with to detox from the vaccinations. You might also consider adding bentonite clay or activated charcoal to your dog's chow for 2-3 weeks for internal cleansing as well.
And about your shepherd's aggression; the distemper vaccine is not known for having that side effect - rabies, yes, but not distemper. It makes me think something else is up, such as hypothyroid. There is a link between low thyroid and aggression/compromised mental state, so my advice to you would be to have a thyroid panel run on your shepherd to see if the thyroid is functioning normally.
I'm a Pet Rescuer and over the years I have witnessed my own dog have reaction to rabies shot:developed lump on right side and aggression, called to report it but told me that the days from shot was over the course to report. Next, a lost german shepherd was lost;took her in got her spayed and received the distemper shot;her behavior changed to becoming aggressive and now I'm having problems handling her. Before the distemper shot, she knew basic commands and had no problem handling her at all. I don't know what happened to her and why such aggression.
Posted by Shanna (Winter Park, Florida ) on 12/04/2015 ★☆☆☆☆
WARNING!
I will never give my handsome boy/ any pet a shot the rest of my life! My min pin got them today and he almost died. He is a healthy 5 year old! Thank goodness I have a dear friend that is the best vet in the world! She saved his life! This reaction took place 5 minutes after the shot! Never put that posion in your animals! Please take caution!
Pharmaceutical companies are taking advantage of people, animals and children. These are billion dollar companies. I dont believe in doctors or vets when it comes to vaccines. I have refused to do this at the vet when they were telling me to vaccinate or dog can't be groomed. I ignored them and went to a groomer in town. Be careful with your pets and not just pets people and kids are being over vaccinated!! Please learn from this!!
My 10 year old beagle Annie had her bordetella vaccine on 9/6/15. The next day she became gravely ill. She seemed to be in severe pain and would flinch when you tried to touch her, especially around the head. I rushed her to our vet and spent 2 days in the hospital. She was sent home with prednisone and antibiotics. She seemed to slowly be getting better until 3 weeks later when Annie developed a severe eye infection. Our vet referred us to a pet eyecare specialist and he concluded it was caused by nerve damage on the left side of her head. Annie was happy and healthy prior to the vaccine.
(HERE IS THE KICKER) our vet contacted the manufacturer or the vaccine and they replied that they have never heard of any problems with the vaccine. Then our vet said they are going to send us a check for 1,300.00 dollars.and they did. Something is very rotten in Denmark. Something must be done about this.
When I got my male kitten, Roscoe neutered at about 4 to 5 months of age, the vet suggested we get his vaccinations at the same time as the neutering. We followed his recommendation and the kitten seemed fine the first day... but then he became weak and lethargic. He would not eat or drink. By the 3rd day I started force feeding him baby food (chicken) diluted with water through a syringe several times a day. By the 6th day he was starting to eat on his own. He is now just over 2 years old and quite healthy.
I've since read that vaccinations given along with surgery and anesthesia is too much for a young animal's system. Please have your animal vaccinated first, then wait a month or so and return for the neutering... Don't do it all at once no matter what your veterinarian is recommending.
While on the subject of neutering.. my now 8 year old male cat, Buddy was neutered at about 3 months and he then developed a problem getting crystals or stones (likely because his urethra was not matured) and is now on a more expensive 'urinary tract' cat food. I recommend waiting until the male kitten is about 5 months old, female kittens can be spayed earlier. My cat is fine as long as he gets the special canned and dry foods. Two times he had the blocked urethra problem (which can be deadly within a short time).. the first time I took him to the vet.. very costly. The next time it happened I gave him a Apple Cider Vinegar and water mix with a syringe several times a day until I saw results. You do not need a lot of ACV (maybe 1/3rd of the small syringe full, fill the rest with plain water) Within less than 12 hours he was urinating fully, he was back to normal within 2 days.
I'm not a doctor or a vet, this is just my own personal experience. Please do your research.
Read more about ACV at the "Natural Cystitis Remedies for Cats" page here at Earthclinic.
I know how you feel. My Maltese recently got his 3rd vaccination and when we got home he started lumping around and just lying on the floor. A few days later the hair around the injection spot to fall of and he started to not eat his food. A few weeks later everything returned to normal and the hair started growing back. Do not worry. Most dogs or puppies may feel this way. If you dog gets any worse make sure to call the vet.:)
Last wed my dog got her annual bordetella vaccine. Vet tried to do it orally up nose, but she refused most of it and then got really aggressive after showing teeth which we have never ever seen her do. He ended up doing it through shot. 2 days later she began coughing up phlem and 3 days later it turned into green stomach bile. and 4 days later she had 105.6 fever and we had to rush her to er vet. She had 3 visits of intravenous fluids to keep her from passing and we luckily switched up enough treats that were easy for her to eat despite the poor thing hacking to keep her food. After much medication and worry , a week later she is finally back to normal , but we are positive it was the bordetella that almost cost us to lose the love of our life!!
So interesting reading the ladies story on the lab x mastiff pup having the kennel cough vaccine and puppy becoming suddently aggressive . My pup is same breed and did exactly the same with my other dog since vaccination , and has continued to . before her vaccination she was lovely, kind.
The wonderful Theresa from Minneapolis, MN has been helping pet owners and their beloved pets around the world on Earth Clinic since 2013.
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Theresa from Minneapolis was born and raised in the inner city, always wishing she had been raised on a farm.
Her love for creatures great and small began at an early age, starting with caterpillars - which continues to this day, along with an interest in all insects and 'creepy crawlies'.
Theresa's interest in pet health started with a bird keeping hobby at age 14, where she learned from another hobbyist that the simple addition of Apple Cider Vinegar (ACV) in a bird's drinking water kept fungal infections away; she was able to share this with her avian vet who in turn prescribed it to her own clients; Theresa was surprised to learn that she could teach her vet a thing or two. This important lesson - that each of us can be a teacher - was a turning point for Theresa, and fueled her quest for the knowledge held in lore, and remedies passed by word of mouth. That quest for knowledge continues to this day, as new and old remedies alike are explored. She may not have experience with a particular issue, but she will research it to the best of her ability and share what she finds freely, in the hopes that you can heal or improve your pet's health.
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Did your vet check for Immune mediated hemolytic anemia? This is one documented vaccine side effect.
From the web:
"Immune mediated hemolytic anemia is a severe, life-threatening disease whereby theimmune system targets and destroys the red blood cells of the body, resulting in anemia, jaundice (yellow gums), pale gums, weakness and sometimes fever. Animals can be so severely anemic that they need blood transfusions to stay alive and some maydie as a result of anemia and lack of oxygen to tissues or as a result of blood clotsentering the lungs, brain or kidneys (ruptured red blood cell membranes float around causingclots to form). These animals are sometimes very sick and in need of special veterinary care and immune-suppressive medications in order to recover. Some willnot recover despite what we do.
When to worry:
Any dog with pale or yellow gums must be seen by a vet. These signs will often be accompanied by variable signs of lethargy (tiredness), low exercise tolerance, collapse, dark coloured urine (the urine is often deep yellow, red - the colour of port wine - or brown), heavy or rapid breathing and sometimes inappetence and fever."
Please help me... my perfectly healthy 6 year old Tibetan terrier had his bordetella shot in April and has not been the same. He has seen 2 vets, many tests, xrays, ultra sounds, blood, stool and all have come back negative.
He is anemic, lethargic, lost weight, and appetite. I did some research on this vaccine, and am frightened with what I am reading on the side effects.
Please guide me as to how I should approach this horrible situation.
Hi Michele, so sorry you had vaccine problems. As an owner of toy dog breeds, I NEVER give them the Lepto vaccine. In many toy breeds such as Shih Tzu it can cause bad problems and even death. I know that many toy puppy health guarantees are void if the lepto vaccine is given.
Another thing concerning vaccines...it is really bad to get a rabies vaccine at the same time as the distemper combo. I wait at least 3 wks. between vaccines. This is not something all vets will tell you and to my knowledge the amount of lepto in a vaccine cannot be reduced. For more info about vaccination you can google Dr. Dodds vaccine recommendations.
Our 14 lb tabby cat got his vaccines yesterday and while he's normally very active, hungry, always purring & loving, today he won't eat, is tender in his hind end, lethargic and distant. They want him back for his booster next month but I'm thinking of skipping it. He let us know he wasn't happy about the shots by peeing in hubby's work bag :(
Two days ago I had my 10 yr old Pomeranian vaccinated with the bordetella shot. By evening he had swollen up like a tick and had a hard time walking...barely even being able to pick up his head. He was also sore to the touch for when I pet him he shook from pain.
Luckily, I had metacam (an anti inflammatory) as well as Valium (for pain). I consulted the vet for proper dosages and by morning he was back to normal size. He's still taking both medications daily and I'm hoping the swelling will stay clear after the third day of meds.
This was the only shot administered that day which is why I am so certain it was the bordetella. However, my female Pom got the same shot the same day and had no side affects. It's a case by case scenario..be aware and take immediate precautions.
The wonderful Theresa from Minneapolis, MN has been helping pet owners and their beloved pets around the world on Earth Clinic since 2013.
About Theresa
Theresa from Minneapolis was born and raised in the inner city, always wishing she had been raised on a farm.
Her love for creatures great and small began at an early age, starting with caterpillars - which continues to this day, along with an interest in all insects and 'creepy crawlies'.
Theresa's interest in pet health started with a bird keeping hobby at age 14, where she learned from another hobbyist that the simple addition of Apple Cider Vinegar (ACV) in a bird's drinking water kept fungal infections away; she was able to share this with her avian vet who in turn prescribed it to her own clients; Theresa was surprised to learn that she could teach her vet a thing or two. This important lesson - that each of us can be a teacher - was a turning point for Theresa, and fueled her quest for the knowledge held in lore, and remedies passed by word of mouth. That quest for knowledge continues to this day, as new and old remedies alike are explored. She may not have experience with a particular issue, but she will research it to the best of her ability and share what she finds freely, in the hopes that you can heal or improve your pet's health.
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Sorry to hear about your boy experiencing side effects from vaccination.
Often the first 'go to' remedy for vaccination side effects is homeopathic Thuja Occidentalis. It is in the form of tiny sugar based pills; dose them directly into your dog's mouth and hold it shut for a few moments for them to dissolve- do NOT touch the pills as this can de-activate them.
If your boy is in good weight and not skin and bones, I would not sweat the lack of appetite too much. Offer him broth or home made doggy pedialyte for electrolytes and salts to keep him hydrated. If he does not want to drink then use a syringe and get **something** down him so he does not get dehydrated; do the fluids about half an hour AFTER the thuja to avoid de-activating the thuja. Dose the thuja every 2-4 hours to start, and monitor results. It it is the right remedy you will see some improvement in the first 6 hours or so. Again, do not push him to eat, but do offer him broth to keep the sugar, salts and electrolytes up.
Once he comes around it might be a good idea to offer him activated charcoal in some canned food, or bentonite clay - these will help draw the toxins from his body as they pass through. Additional support for his organs might be milk thistle.
If this were my dog next time I would consider only doing the legally required rabies vaccine and skip all the rest.
Please help!! I just took our baby (a shitzu mix) yesterday to get his da2ppv booster, lepto, and rabies booster. I hate the lepto and skipped it last year but asked for a lower dose this year. Now I have a lethargic, unwilling to move on his own, dog. He yelps when you touch his body and can't walk on his back leg. Food is of no interest to him and we have to bring his water to him. I called my vet this am and the nurse said it's just like when a little infant gets shots...they get sore. Wth??? My dog doesn't MOVE, EAT, OR DRINK. And all he does is yawn and sleep! Sorry, but I tear up every time he looks at me :(
I am writing this because our beloved one-year old, Reido, just died this morning, a week and a half after getting his distemper shot. We'd notice that he was much more lethargic than usual a couple of days after his shot, and not playing at all. His appetite was off, though he was eating some and drinking.
I called my vet. She said it was unusual for it to last more than a few days, so watch him and call her back.
Reido was simply been like an old man. Very slow to get up, very slow to lie down. He'd walk a few steps and then lie down again. No sounds. Just a sick cat, without any other visible sign other than his obviously low energy, low appetite.
I tried Bach Rescue Remedy, which seemed to work some to get him to look me in the eye. I comforted him, petted him. But otherwise, I hadn't even heard a purr from him in a week.
Last night, I saw him walk (ever so slowly and gingerly) over the toilet downstairs twice, each time to hang his head near the water and eventually lap some. Over the past week, he's vomited, albeit with little volume, twice or three times over the past week. Lethargic, legs under his body much of the time, unresponsive.
I can't really say he was acting at all like that before the vaccinations. And now that I research it just a bit, I find that he was acting like he had distemper.
Reido died this morning, around 7:30a. He crawled to spot close to where our beloved Sebastian died about 2 years ago, very quite, very warm.
It would be wonderful if these sorts of 'exceptions' were publicized -- if this is, indeed, one of those. At least to get the conversation going among vets. But given that there are seldom any official autopsies, they never rise beyond presumption, scientifically speaking. Honestly, there are LOTS of people telling the same kinds of stories, but not much in the official literature. Not surprising, but disheartening for those of us who want to make well informed decisions for ourselves and our animals.
I'm not Ted, but do you mind me chiming in on what you describe? I'd never take issue with Ted, but given your description I think you picked up the infection just as you describe; when the procedure was performed relative to the miscarriage five years ago. It was sudden onset and sounds just like so many MOs of viral infections. From your description doesn't it make sense that it invaded the abdominal and heart and then migrated into the jaw and neck finally getting into the ear and likely into the brain. Your own doctor said as much did he not? He said it was not a bacterial infection and this doesn't sound like a parasite.
Of course, fungus is at work. You said you have candida infections also but do not say it those predated five years back.
I think IF THIS WERE ME...I'd go after virus as the main cause.
The heart palpations and pain might be both magnesium deficiency AND virus at work.
So IF ME...I'd try lots of colloidal silver consumed orally, three tablespoons orally three times daily on empty stomach. And I'd use CS with DMSO applied 50/50 onto white cloth and applied to base of neck most effected. I'd use ear syringe to squirt CS into ears and sinus to try to kill infection in upper respiratory. This kind of infection would take a year or longer to knock out. I'd be patient.
IF...IF...this is a virus, then one evidence of same would be after taking CS for a few weeks your energy will start coming back. That would indicate that sure enough your immune system is improving.
By the way, CS also kills bacteria and fungus.
I'd be on 500 mg of magnesium.
Consider taking this suggestion to your MD and see if he/she would consider the ideas herein. Maybe he would be game for pursuing a program on anti-viral approach.
I'm so sorry for your loss!! I too have a Japanese Chin & just had her DHLPP & Bordatella done 4/12 & she's acting lethargic, not eating or drinking and walking like she has stiff joints. This started 3 days after her vaccine. She's 10 years old and I will never have her vaccinated unless its required by law.
The wonderful Theresa from Minneapolis, MN has been helping pet owners and their beloved pets around the world on Earth Clinic since 2013.
About Theresa
Theresa from Minneapolis was born and raised in the inner city, always wishing she had been raised on a farm.
Her love for creatures great and small began at an early age, starting with caterpillars - which continues to this day, along with an interest in all insects and 'creepy crawlies'.
Theresa's interest in pet health started with a bird keeping hobby at age 14, where she learned from another hobbyist that the simple addition of Apple Cider Vinegar (ACV) in a bird's drinking water kept fungal infections away; she was able to share this with her avian vet who in turn prescribed it to her own clients; Theresa was surprised to learn that she could teach her vet a thing or two. This important lesson - that each of us can be a teacher - was a turning point for Theresa, and fueled her quest for the knowledge held in lore, and remedies passed by word of mouth. That quest for knowledge continues to this day, as new and old remedies alike are explored. She may not have experience with a particular issue, but she will research it to the best of her ability and share what she finds freely, in the hopes that you can heal or improve your pet's health.
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My 11 year old Japanese Chin who was perfectly healthy just died suddenly five days after being administered the Bordetella shot orally at the kennel where she was staying while I was out of town. When I picked her up after 4 days of being there, she was lethargic and very thirsty--I thought she was tired from all the barking. She started throwing up and having diareha with fresh blood in it. She died a few hours later, before I could get her to a vet. I will never leave my babies at a kennel again or get shots!
Hi--- re sneezing. See the video on EC about hydrogen peroxide inhalation method. I use it for myself, my cats and dogs too. You can try first a 1% solution and then use 3% if you feel it is ok.
The wonderful Theresa from Minneapolis, MN has been helping pet owners and their beloved pets around the world on Earth Clinic since 2013.
About Theresa
Theresa from Minneapolis was born and raised in the inner city, always wishing she had been raised on a farm.
Her love for creatures great and small began at an early age, starting with caterpillars - which continues to this day, along with an interest in all insects and 'creepy crawlies'.
Theresa's interest in pet health started with a bird keeping hobby at age 14, where she learned from another hobbyist that the simple addition of Apple Cider Vinegar (ACV) in a bird's drinking water kept fungal infections away; she was able to share this with her avian vet who in turn prescribed it to her own clients; Theresa was surprised to learn that she could teach her vet a thing or two. This important lesson - that each of us can be a teacher - was a turning point for Theresa, and fueled her quest for the knowledge held in lore, and remedies passed by word of mouth. That quest for knowledge continues to this day, as new and old remedies alike are explored. She may not have experience with a particular issue, but she will research it to the best of her ability and share what she finds freely, in the hopes that you can heal or improve your pet's health.
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I am sorry to hear about your JRT. The bordetaella [kennel cough] vaccine has been proven to not work AND your dog has been shedding live virus, potentially giving other dogs KC, for weeks now. The shedding of the live virus should end after 6-8 weeks, but since your girl still has symptoms of KC I would be careful about taking him out in public until she is well.
You might consider EC's hydrogen peroxide remedy for KC:
About two months ago I went to get my jack Russell shots and vet said she needed the bordetella. I had no idea that I could refuse. My pup is never around many dogs and we don't do the dog parks. Now she reverse sneezes and at night while trying to sleep she has mucus in her nose and it's hard for her to breathe. This was never an issue before the nasal bordetella. I'm very angry. And I am saddened to hear that she never really needed it to begin with!!!!
The post made me cry and I have to thank Theresa for her excellent reply. Thank you again, Theresa. It made me feel better even though it will sit with me for a while unfortunately. Namaste, Om
The wonderful Theresa from Minneapolis, MN has been helping pet owners and their beloved pets around the world on Earth Clinic since 2013.
About Theresa
Theresa from Minneapolis was born and raised in the inner city, always wishing she had been raised on a farm.
Her love for creatures great and small began at an early age, starting with caterpillars - which continues to this day, along with an interest in all insects and 'creepy crawlies'.
Theresa's interest in pet health started with a bird keeping hobby at age 14, where she learned from another hobbyist that the simple addition of Apple Cider Vinegar (ACV) in a bird's drinking water kept fungal infections away; she was able to share this with her avian vet who in turn prescribed it to her own clients; Theresa was surprised to learn that she could teach her vet a thing or two. This important lesson - that each of us can be a teacher - was a turning point for Theresa, and fueled her quest for the knowledge held in lore, and remedies passed by word of mouth. That quest for knowledge continues to this day, as new and old remedies alike are explored. She may not have experience with a particular issue, but she will research it to the best of her ability and share what she finds freely, in the hopes that you can heal or improve your pet's health.
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I can't begin to tell you how upsetting your post is. I am sorry for your little JRT.
It is hard to answer your question about the vaccine causing a reaction observed in your dog two weeks after it was injected without knowing what it was that was injected. IMHO from what you posted - dreamy look/loss of bladder control - sounds like your dog may have had idiopathic epilepsy, which can appear at any age - but this is only my guess based on what you shared. And the vet told you true: many animals won't notice a poke in the leg or rump but take exception - terriers in particular - to having their scruff's grasped for any reason, much less a sharp poke.
It is unfortunate that you were not aware of the services being provided in time enough to accept or decline them. When you show up at the vet, you need to know *why* you are there so you can discuss your options. Vet and client should have a two way relationship and I can only urge everyone to not settle for the closest vet to you - but to go the distance for the vet you find you *can* trust.
I can assure you your dog died because you euthanized it. It may or may not have had what your last two may have had; this cannot be ascertained unless you do a necropsy/autopsy- however it sounds as if you really do not know why the last two died as you did not perform diagnostic tests. Since it's three dogs now for you feel that had the same issue, you should strongly consider environmental toxins in your home as a possible common factor in all this. Kudos for making the decision to not obtain another dog.
I was trying to find an answer to a question when I came across this site and read how dogs don't need to be vaccinated every year after having them done as puppies. We were upset when our usual vet retired and another vet injected our little Jack Russell on his back above his hind leg. All the other vets we've used did it in the scruff, but she crept up behind our dog whilst my son was holding him and did it quick without us being able to stop her. My son asked what she was doing and she said they did it there sometimes when they didn't want to cause stress. Two weeks later, he seemed to act strangely, as if he were dreamy and then he began to lose control of his bladder. He was eight years old, but he was healthy before the vaccination. We took him to be checked out after the bank holiday and he was scanned around his bladder and had blood taken. Then we were given some tablets for infection, even though the vet said there wasn't any sign of infection. We were so afraid he would die suffering as two other dogs we'd had, we believed suffered with cancer, so we took him to be euthanized, which ended up being quite horrific as he cried and was fighting it. Now I'm wondering if it was the vaccination or the way that it was administered that actually caused our last little dog's death. We cannot bear to go through such heartbreak again, so we can't have another. I'm afraid the vets have broken our trust now.
When my dachshund was 1 year old, she had 2 rattlesnake vaccines. She is 3.5 years old now. I never had any problems, side effects etc. she received her vaccine in Montana after 2 near misses with timber rattlers.
Posted by Carolyn Guzzi (Tampa, Florida) on 04/19/2014
My cat has a death sentence today because of a cancer caused by vaccinations called fibroscarcoma...i have had this cat when he was a kitten 1 month and had him for 9 years this month...he was limping and had a lump on his shoulder..it went a way but then it came back with a force. It was small and not it is as big as the palm of my hand...he cant walk he eats very little...and I am devastated by this mess...and somebody needs to be responsible for doing this to this cat...getting all these shots for nothing rabies/FIV/FLiv/ and kitten shots fine but not every single month even my new vet doctor said u dont need every year shots especially if he is a indooor cat...every 3 years most if any does he need any shots especially if he is an indoor cat...! The pet food is crap with all the dead animals in the food when these shelters kill animals...with all the additives that will kill these pets and addition heartworm medicine such as revelution medication for fleas/ticks/heartworm med...hum if you get heartworm they are done. There is no cure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! As well having the shots for your cat and heartworm medication revelutions together is a deadly for any animals dog/puppy or cat/kitten....do your homework, it is vital DO NOT GIVE SHOTS ALL AT ONCE TO YOUR PET DOG OR CAT...ONE AT A TIME IF THEY NEED IT...DOG & CATS ARE VERY DIFFERENT! Do your homework...do not rely on what they tell you; they are all in it for the money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The wonderful Theresa from Minneapolis, MN has been helping pet owners and their beloved pets around the world on Earth Clinic since 2013.
About Theresa
Theresa from Minneapolis was born and raised in the inner city, always wishing she had been raised on a farm.
Her love for creatures great and small began at an early age, starting with caterpillars - which continues to this day, along with an interest in all insects and 'creepy crawlies'.
Theresa's interest in pet health started with a bird keeping hobby at age 14, where she learned from another hobbyist that the simple addition of Apple Cider Vinegar (ACV) in a bird's drinking water kept fungal infections away; she was able to share this with her avian vet who in turn prescribed it to her own clients; Theresa was surprised to learn that she could teach her vet a thing or two. This important lesson - that each of us can be a teacher - was a turning point for Theresa, and fueled her quest for the knowledge held in lore, and remedies passed by word of mouth. That quest for knowledge continues to this day, as new and old remedies alike are explored. She may not have experience with a particular issue, but she will research it to the best of her ability and share what she finds freely, in the hopes that you can heal or improve your pet's health.
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How To Show Theresa Your Appreciation
If you would like to thank Theresa for her helpful posts, she asks if you would please consider making a donation to one of her favorite local rescue organizations, or by making a donation to help the genius contributor, Ted from Bangkok, recover from his stroke.
I'm sorry to hear about your ill kitty; I'm even more sorry to hear about the reaction by your vet! This is a person who is supposed to be your team mate in your pet's health, and they are failing to take into consideration the first hand feedback from the team member who spends 100% of their time caring for and observing the pet! [Head:Desk]
It makes perfects sense to me that if one sibling had a bad reaction, that the second sibling might react the same way; its familial.
You might consider dosing both cats with homeopathic Thuja Occidentalis; also dosing some activated charcoal - mixed in with wet food am and pm for a week.
If these were my cats I would NOT vaccinate again, ever. Particularly since they are both indoor kitties.
I would also consider changing vets; the American Holistic Veterinary Medical Association lists several holistic practitioners in your area. I find the website hard to use, so a few options if you are interested:
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