I am not worried about how "clean" or disinfected these dry things are (I am pretty sure I can figure that stuff out), I only need to know how much distilled water to blend them with.
I know Ted prefers the proportion of 30% Humic acid and 70% Fulvic Acid from his previous EC posts for those 2 ingredients (Forever Thank You, Ted :-)).
Does anyone know how much of this dry Humic/Fulvic blend should be added to say, 8 ounces of water?
Or conversely, if I have a dry measured teaspoon of 70% Fulvic Acid and 30% Humic powder/granules combined, how much water should be added to this to make the liquid solution?
And then- How much of the resultant liquid would typically be ingested?
Does anyone know the answer to this, or can anyone point me to an explanatory EC link which I might have missed somehow (been searching for this info for weeks:-/)?
Ted, do you have time to answer this, I hope? Or anybody else?
Thanks a million, and Thank You Earthclinic :-),
Linda
BTW my Fulvic/Humic came from the same place ( :-) great people :-) ), except that it sounds like you might have got it as a mix, whereas I got the powdered Fulvic and granulated Humic acids separately.
Once I get my stuff blended and tried out and have an experiential opinion on it, I will post back here; I do not know how long that will take though. I do want to put some safeguards into my blend which will not impair the Humic/Fulvic activity, yet will be precautions for sanitizing things in case it is necessary because of processing, etc...
Thanks again for posting Peter :-). I would be interested in hearing your further thoughts on this BTW, if you have any further experiences to add to it by now...
Stay well, Linda
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Humic acids - the fraction of humic substances that is not soluble in water under acidic conditions (pH < 2) but is soluble at higher pH values. They can be extracted from soil by various reagents and which is insoluble in dilute acid. Humic acids are the major extractable component of soil humic substances. They are dark brown to black in color.
Fulvic acids - the fraction of humic substances that is soluble in water under all pH conditions. They remains in solution after removal of humic acid by acidification. Fulvic acids are light yellow to yellow-brown in color.
Humin - the fraction of humic substances that is not soluble in water at any pH value and in alkali. Humins are black in color.
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My results so far is that I feel like it helps me hydrate when I'm thirsty. It counteracts acidity I noticed too. Also, when you feel run down for no reason, it seems to neutralize the toxins inside of you and makes you feel better. It's supposedly great for counteracting radiation.
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Here is an article which explains why in detail:
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Cancer fighting nutrients become deadly when combined with chlorinated tap water
Some of nature's most valuable and essential anti-cancer and anti-disease phytochemical nutrients which are commonly found in food have been discovered to form deadly cancer causing substances when consumed or combined with chlorinated tap water. This discovery includes familiar foods including soy, fruits, vegetables, tea, many health products, and even some vitamins. Research has proven that these essential nutrients are the exact same families of compounds, that even in infinitesimal amounts have been tormenting the water treatment and chlorine industries for years.
Recently, a joint study was undertaken in Japan by research scientists at the National Institute of Health Sciences and Shizuoka Prefectural University. They determined that natural organic substances originating from foods, including fruits, soy, and green or black tea, react when tap water is chlorinated, forming dangerous cancer causing compounds. These deadly compounds have been named MX, which stands for "unknown mutagen", and are similar to the already well-known and more easily detected cancer causing THMs (trihalomethanes).
The Japanese scientists specifically mentioned that their studies showed that MX is created by the reaction of chlorine with natural organic plant phytochemicals such as catechins, which are contained in tea, and flavonoids which are found in fruit. Since Japan has an extremely high consumption of tea, fruits, and soy products, it is easy to see how high amounts of residues from these foods would end up in their wastewater treatment and water recycling systems.
Earlier studies by scientists in Finland in 1997 determined that MX is 170 times more deadly than other known toxic byproducts of chlorination, and was shown in laboratory studies to damage the thyroid gland as well as cause cancerous tumors.
THMs are known to be created by the reaction of chlorine with humic and fulvic acids, which are the final breakdown products of vegetation, including decayed leaves and organic matter. Humic substances are the same as soil humus, of which the fulvic fraction is water soluble and readily transported into streams and waterways, as well as utilized nutritionally by plants.
Very recent scientific discoveries have identified and clarified the composition of fulvic and humic acids as containing a significant amount of nutritional phytochemical groups including hormones, sterols, fatty acids, polyphenols, and ketones, which subgroups include but are not limited to: flavins, flavonoids, flavones, tannins, catechins, quinones, isoflavones, tocopherols, etc.
These compounds are some of the most valuable and promising anti-cancer nutrients found in our foods and health supplements. Coenzyme Q10 is a quinone, vitamin B-2 is a flavin, vitamin E is a tocopherol, citrus bioflavonoids including hesperidin, quercetin, and rutin are all flavonoids, green tea contains catechins, phenols, tannins, and isoflavones. Potentially all of these substances, and many more, are implicated by chlorination.
Amazingly, is has been discovered that these phytochemicals remain intact, concentrated, and intricately combined within humic substances; which are valuable remnants of nature's protective substances contained within fruits, flowers, pollen, nuts and seeds, as well as vegetative parts including roots, stems, bark, and leaves. Even the plant nucleic acids, RNA and DNA remain intact.
To comply with EPA rulings, water treatment plants have had to develop special techniques to scrub the seemingly dubious organic residues from water prior to treatment with chlorine. There is nothing wrong with the organic substances themselves, it is chlorine that is at fault for turning them into the deadly THM and MX cancer cocktail. Reality is that the organic substances have been shown to be highly beneficial combined with pure drinking water in trace amounts.
The bottom line is this: when water treatment facilities remove these substances, they are throwing the precious baby out with the bath water, and the remnants that remain are turned into cancer causing agents by chlorination. To make things worse, it is certain that the fresh plant foods we eat similarly react with the chlorinated tap water we drink with our meals, creating toxins. This means that fresh fruits and vegetables, green salads, green tea, black tea, herb teas, soy products, vitamin pills and various health supplements, and even some pharmaceutical drugs, all can be implicated in combination with chlorinated water.
The deadly cancer causing agents which are produced are extremely toxic in infinitesimal amounts, so small and obscure that they are extremely difficult to detect. Very little chlorine is required. When the concentrations of phytochemicals are high, such as in concentrated health supplements, or even fruits and vegetables coming from more fertile soils, the deadly combination with chlorination intensifies.
It has been known by the water treatment and chemical industries for many years that chlorine reacts negatively with natural organic compounds. These industries call these compounds DBPs (disinfection by-products) which are known to cause cancer in populations whose drinking water contains them. THM, the most commonly known DBP, is known to cause a high incidence of bladder cancer and also to cause spontaneous abortion of fetuses.
The Environmental Protection Agency has continually tightened their restrictions on THMs in drinking water, and even tighter restrictions are just around the bend. Yet it is interesting to note that the many government agencies and chlorine industries have conveniently neglected to take a serious look at food, health supplement, and pharmaceutical drug consumption, preparation, and production relating to use of chlorinated tap water.
There is good reason for the public to seriously examine and question this entire issue. Many years ago laws were passed making chlorination of water mandatory. Now, the chlorine industry and government agencies must continue their existing policies, because if sudden or drastic changes are made, the legal liabilities would be staggering. Certainly some government or industry personnel have known or theorized about these problems and have been covering them up for many years. However, if anyone were to admit to it, the consequences could be disastrous. This predicament could make the tobacco industry scandal seem insignificant in comparison.
Another area needing thorough scrutiny relates to pharmaceutical drug safety studies normally performed on animals in the laboratory. It would be reasonable to surmise that good laboratory practices and procedures would require that such studies be performed using highly purified drinking water for animals. It would be reasonable to believe that drug companies would not take the chance of jeopardizing clinical studies using chlorinated tap water. Of course chlorinated tap water is a common denominator within the human environment. Educating people to the dangers of chlorine would be admitting to knowledge of the problem, which could invalidate past studies and certainly raise serious legal problems.
This whole chlorine issue should come as no real surprise to any biochemist. During the last century, chlorine has been combined with many other normally safe organic substances to form some of the most powerful deadly toxins known, such as dioxin, DDT, PCBs, etc. The bottom line is that the real culprit is chlorine, not the substances with which it reacts.
Although chlorine has essentially eliminated the risks of waterborne diseases such as typhoid fever, cholera and dysentery, there are many pathogens that are not controlled by chlorine. Other and better methods of water treatment exist. Many alternatives are already used throughout the world. Ever tightening EPA regulations have forced the water supply industry in the USA to look into alternative methods for disinfecting water.
For years, environmentalists have battled the water treatment industry and large chemical companies in an effort to ban the use of chlorine in drinking water. This ongoing battle has been a big source of revenue for both sides. As word of the problem spreads to the general public, something might actually be done about it.
As this message spreads, it will no doubt shake the very foundations of the chlorine and water treatment industries, let alone the government agencies that are implicated along with them. There certainly should be cause for serious alarm within the nutritional supplement and food industries, as well as those segments of the medical industry that might awaken to the dilemma.
This message is of utmost importance to the general public, because chlorine will one day, in the near future, be exposed as a major cause and contributor to cancer and degenerative disease. Chlorine will also be found to be responsible for damaging the body's immune and hormonal systems by mutating the food-based plant estrogens and phytochemicals that support those systems. A healthy immune system should be your first and best line of defense against waterborne disease.
References
Recer, P; Water chlorine byproduct may be cancer risk; June 18, 1997; Associated Press
Christman, RF; Kronberg, K; Singh, R; Ball, LM; Johnson, DJ; Report 259: Identification of Mutagenic By-products from Aquatic Humic Chlorination; North Carolina State University
Rhomberg, L Ph. D. ; Risk In Perspective: Are Chemicals In the Environment Disrupting Hormonal Control Of Growth and Development? April 1, 1996; Harvard Center for Risk Analysis
Japanese data related to MX and the Shizuoka Prefectural University has been extracted from various abstracts published by the American Water Works Association (AWWA), and the National Institute of Health (NIH).
Plant phytochemicals and nutrient groups can be determined from information within the Organic Chemical Tables; Chemical Abstracts Service (CAS), a division of the American Chemical Society."
Linda
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VERY IMPORTANT: DO NOT MIX HUMIC OR FULVIC ACID WITH TAP WATER OR ANYTHING THAT IS OR HAS BEEN CHLORINATED. Humic and fulvic acids are naturally present in soild, water, and air. But they are REMOVED from municipal water. I think this is to prevent the formation of hexane.
You have helped me alot with my colitis and mercury issues. Currently, I have been in a little flare so many thing are upseting my stomach or making my symptoms act up. Anyways, I finally got some 100% pure humic acid powder. Now, my question is, when I mix this it is completely black but it does have a taste to it. This is not suppose to have a taste, correct? It's kind of a chalky earthy taste.. I'm getting worried that this may not be pure even though the company has said it's 100% pure... I'm really not sure what to do? Any ideas? Thanks!
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It is hard to measure their effect but both seemed to help with brain fog, clarity... I experienced a slight cramping with the powder and both would give a slight headache from dehydration... important to drink lots of water taking it..
I won't buy the Wairora brand anymore because it is multi-level marketed which explains some of the aggressive selling tactics on the web... The Zeoforce is probably a better deal... It does seem to help when my system feels off or acidic... However I don't take it too often as I am waiting for more science to back it up... proceed with caution is probably the best advice on this...
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It's down at the very bottom of the article - it suggests either Enzymatic Therapy's complete metal cleanse (which is made from fulvic acid concentrated from a Hungarian bog) or Morningstar Minerals product (it has a few on iherb). I'm experimenting with the former - I want to give it a bit longer before I really comment, but so far I'm very pleased and think it's actually working - both more energy and less stressy. Just don't take it last thing at night, I'm finding I don't sleep well and have very weird dreams if I do. Zeolite stuff is a whole other can of worms - exactly like fulvic, lots of manufacturers with wild claims and attacking each other - very difficult to find anyone who has done research with their own product. Good luck! - and do tell me if you try either of the products above, interested to compare notes...
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Crucially he recommends two competing brands, which are much cheaper than some of the other websites mentioned and also come from established healthcare companies with a notable absence of hysterical marketing: I find this very reassuring. Just tried a bit of Brand A - broke open the capsule and took the powder in water - and feel uplifted but not frenetic. Early days: I will give it a month or so and report back.
I've found fulvic acid products a bit too strong in the past, though I seem to tolerate them better now. One alternative is moor mud, dug out of an Austrian bog and pasteurised. Absolutely delicious, but criminally expensive, at least in the quantities that I am drinking it. The moor mud sold for baths is a quarter of the price, but I have to figure out how to replicate the effects of pasteurisation without just boiling it to death (part of the goodness of the moor mud is in the bacteria, so I'm reluctant to kill the lot) - any bright ideas on this front?
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So update June 2011. So as with anything you begin to wonder what is making you feel great and if it is truly just 1 thing. Well I ran out of the fulvic/humic solution a few months back. I didn't really understand that much about it and that it could help with colds and flus and allergies etc. In the spring one of my kids got sick and coughed for 2 months and I tried everything to help her from a holistic standpoint (finally got an ND to help with chinese tinctures etc. And we have indoor air quality issues. )
Sooooo long story short, I've been exhausted, cranky, tired, unmotivated, argumentative, not interested in sex AT ALL etc. I GOT MORE OF THIS SOLUTION. BUT I started taking 2 ounces a day, then sometimes 4 and even 6 ounces. I'm not sure if this is ok, I can't find any information on 'taking too much' so if someone does if they could post that, I'd appreciate it. BUT I FEEL BEYOND INCREDIBLE. I homeschool my 3 kids, my youngest is 2 and our life is VERY busy and my hsuband works ALOT. I am not feeling SO amazing I am doing karate 5 days a week (2 hours a class), I am as mentioned before - laughing, and having fun, going out on dates with my husband, feeling AWESOME, jumping on the trampoline for an hour a day (that is btw NOT an easy feat and is extremely intense), roller skating for 2-3 hours straight several times a week with my kids, buying new clothes because I feel so great!!! Wearing makeup for the first time in years, caring what I look like etc. The kicker is I find my husband EXTREMELY attractive again which is bonus for him! LOL We both did the master cleanse for 10 days and that was a good kick start before I started taking the fulvi/humic mix again. My friend still had one I had given her before so I took it and am awaiting more- until then I have only been giving my husband and kids a little bit because I've been taking the larger amounts!!! As someone mentioned above it is like drinking a bunch of cups of coffee- the energy, the mental clarity, the happiness- it's pretty cool that is for sure! I'm getting up at 6 am in the morning for the first time in years and years and I'm roaring around on 5 hours sleep (up vaccuming at 1am after the kids and hubby are all asleep so I can lay in the sun for a half hour each morning LOL). I've spent thousands and thousands of dollars on supplements over the last 10 years, transdermal magnesium, zapping, hydrogen peroxide, b vitamins, greens, powders, chlorella, barley, grown my own wheatgrass and sprouts, vega, homeopathics, herbs for teas, tincutres, fish oils, concentrace drops, essential oils etc. And it's been SO SO SO MUCH WORK (if you are a mom with little kids you know how much work it is to be changing your diet and doing all things healthy to feel better-which usually means spending ALL day in the kitchen!!! ) This is one EASY addition to my day that makes me feel better and more amazing then any of the other things in my life that I've ever take.
** note though, I also take lots of ______ vitamin c a day too, but I always have and I'm a big believer in high c. It gives me energy but the 2 products are night and day. I don't make any money or anything from recommending the fulvic/humic solution or vitamin c, but you can email me at holisticparents at yahoo dot com if you want anymore information or to prove I'm legit and just a mom getting awesome results!!! ** also worth noting is that the only reason I bought this to try was because this family doesn't carry a whole lot of things on their site other then food so I thought hmmmm I've heard of that stuff- if they are using it, maybe I should too LOL They don't advertise or push their stuff - in fact I couldn't really get much information out of them on it verbally so I just read the articles on it on their website. Hope this helps someone!!!
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I discovered fulvic acid a couple years ago and buy mine (I won't name the product) from morningstar minerals in new mexico, usa. There is supposedly a big deposit in new mexico.
I love to grow my own organic vegatables and they sold me a huge bag, maybe 25lbs for like $12. Hec, it costs more than twice that cost to ship it across country to maryland where I live. I sprinkle the humic acid pieces.... Which look like big, poor ground chunks of coffee beans..... In my garden every winter. I "very litely" sprinkle it around my lettuces, beets, tomato plants, etc..... So it dissolves in the soil and the roots of the plant uptake it..... And I eat it and the veggies should have a higher mineral content.
The fulvic acid supplement is supposed to give energy and be an amazing electrolyte. It also has amino acids in it. I don't take it daily but occasionally I add some to distilled water.
I'm more interested in getting higher mineral content to my veggies.
I'm hooked on making green smoothies and every day I bottle up chopped up organic beet roots and leaves, kale, spinach, brocolli, carrots, swiss chard..... Apples, pineapples, peach, orange, kiwi, banana and more. I vary the recipe but its NOT juiced where the pulp is removed. I am full and don't eat as much and booming with energy.
I think the fulvic minerals add to the energy.
Do a web search on fulvic deposits in new mexico, usa and you should find out more about it. I am only ending my first full year of using it as a soil additive to my garden. In theory, its going to help recondition the soil and make my veggies way more vitamin and mineral rich.
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I haven't ordered from them yet but, after reading about Wendy's great results, I've added it to my wish list!
I don't know if it's Wendy's supplier but it sure sounds similar. Cheers, Bess
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I was reading up on fulvic acid and found your post. You've mentioned, that you found a raw food family in British Columbia selling it. I was wondering if you could pass the information onto me as I would really like to try out fulvic acid. It sounds so promising.
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Fulvic acid--the acid radical found in humic matter which is soluble in alkali, acid, methyl ethyl ketone, and methyl alcohol. Fulvates--the salts of fulvic acid. Leonardite--a soft brown coal-like deposit usually found in conjunction with deposits of lignite. Lignite--a type of soft coal. ) so humic is NOT soluble in acid but fulvic is. That important if we mix it with apple cider vinegar! And if you browse well the site you'll find pics of the different layers of soil in monuments valley and it seem that for legal purpose the same product is name differently in ca and or than the rest of the states. We don't have to buy from them but their site help with the understanding.
The site is bioag if ec allow the mention. If it was not for Ted's remedy I would have used it only for plants but now, I am going to get it for myself and for the pets. I hope this help someone. PEACE!
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Mind you, this was a HUMIC substance, and it was completely black. When you would add it to your water, it would mushroom-cloud (like chlorophyl does) and turn it completely black. This is a product that is no longer being made, so perhaps I will have permission to list the brand? It was by Dr. Lamar's products, they stopped making it over 2 years ago.
Alot of people talk alot about how great fulvic acid is, and it really is good, but fulvates are derivatives of humates, and in my experience, humic supplements are vastly superior. I NEVER responded like that to ANY one supplement I had ever taken in my life, and I've been popping supplements and cures for almost 30 years!
Humic substances are not given the fanfare that they rightfully deserve (at least not outside the gardening community). Instead most companies produce fulvic substances. I highly reccommend trying a black water HUMIC supplement, and it should indeed change your water black, not brown or gold like the fulvates do. There are several companies that produce a true HUMIC product, just do a bit of Scroogling and you should find them. Some of them offer fulvic AND humic acids in seperate bottles. This is a great idea. Feel free to write me with any thoughts, questions or comments! Needless to say I am a bonafide believer in the black water humics!
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Can you pull up a website from the company you bought it from, or a phone number you can call and ask? Different companies may have different dilution ratios, it best to contact them if you can. Peace, Rena.
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My problem is that I do not know how to mix it. My seller in china speaks broken english and his mixing instructions seem waaaaay too strong.
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