MMS: The Miracle Mineral Supplement from Jim Humble

Andrew Weil gives it a big thumbs down. I respect his wisdom and education & tend to agree. The info, here, suggests that it may be effective to rid oneself of worms... I've seen no anecdotal evidence yet of anyone saying it helped or cured more serious illnesses of cancer or hiv. Here is the link: http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/QAA400765/No-Magical-Cures.html

A friend with Lyme disease tried it with no positive results.

I was in Nigeria a week ago and I met a doctor who is quietly curing people of the HIV virus using MMS. I say "quietly" as he doesn't want his efforts to be stopped by Big Pharma and their friends.

There is no way anyone who is sincere and investigates MMS can deny that it is very effective and has saved many thousands of lives.

Does anyone have information regarding the effect of iodine on MMS? It is important to raise iodine levels using higher doses when fighting cancer. A few people have said that it can reduce the effect of MMS/chlorine dioxide.

Hi Ronald...Iodine is an anti-oxidant and MMS(Chlorine Dioxide) is a pro-oxidant. So if you combine them or take them at the same time, they will simply react with each other and cancel out each other's beneficial effects. So if you take any anti-oxidant nutrient together with MMS then the same thing will happen.

MMS only lasts for about an hour in the blood before it is quickly removed from the body so the best way to take MMS is to take it in a one to three drop dose, once an hour, eight times a day. You can take it in higher single dosages, but this may cause headaches, nausea and vomiting (similar to large dose HP). The MMS protocol is very similar to the Hydrogen Peroxide Protocol -- which only last for about an hour in the body as well because it also has similar pro-oxidant action.

G@@gle Quantum Leap video on Y@uTube. Might change your thinking.

Robertson, from Columbus - what is Herxheimer pains? I have gotten up to 4 drops for 6 days and have diarrhea (5x times in the morning) and then have different types of pains going on in my stomach. Each time I get up to 4 drops for a few days, I get this diarrhea/pain schedule. I have stopped it for the last 2 days and am afraid to go back on it, even though on 1 and 2 drops I feel fantastic. I have been told by a few practitioners that I have overgrowth of bacteria, some parasites and a worm infection. I really want to stay on this stuff, but I could use all the support I can get right now, I feel pretty bad in the bathroom department (lots of intestinal gas, too) although I have great energy otherwise. Thanks for any responses.

To Linda, if I may. If you feel great with 1 or 2 drops - why would you want to take more and suffer with stomach problems? It is your body telling you that you found the right dose for yourself. Cheers!

Hi Steve,

I would highly recommend that you also include raw veggie juicing in your diet and a good quality whey powder. If you're eating meat and processed foods the detox wont be effective, the only way to speed up healing reaction and initiate a healing crisis is to increase metabolic enzyme function, to do this the digestive system needs a break, try going vegetarian for a week, do a liver/gallbladder flush, and plenty veggie juices, also supplement with digestive enzymes between meals and take magnesium and zinc tabs this help the pancreas make more metabolic enzymes. H202 therapy will also stimulate lymph flow which will make the heel detox kit work better. good luck.

Try some Kefir for your bowels, sorta tastes like yogurt but is not. Yogurt only has 2 or three probotics where kefir has 6 or more and the best thing about it is that it populates your bowels.

I had suffered from SIBO for close to 3 years since eating at a Crackle Barrel in Georgia off I-75. But how I accidentally cured it. I was taking Chlorine Dioxide for a virus infection. And after 2-3 days of drinking the stuff, the SIBO went away. It's been 2 months now and it has not returned.

The Chlorine Dioxide I'm using is the Aquamira Water Purification drops sold to purify drinking water. This comes under “Other uses” lol.

How I was using MMS Liquid Drops:

* Place 7 drops Aquamira Water Treatment (Part A) and 7 drops Phosphoric Acid Activator (Part B) in a cap to pre-mix.

* Let mixture react for 5 minutes to ensure full activation (it will turn yellow color).

* Fill a container with (1 liter) water. Add contents of mixing cap.

* Water is now ready for use. I've been told NOT to take vitamin C supplements while taking Chlorine Dioxide!

Note: Most recipes I have seen are 30 drops Chlorine Dioxide and 30 drops Acid Activator in 1 liter water.

Dosage:

Drink 3 oz taken every hour, until the content of the bottle is finished (8 to 12 shots). It has no taste. Just like water. Make a new batch fresh in the morning and repeat.

Note: I believe this treatment will destroy any unwanted pathogen in the digestive tract causing harm like Crohn's Disease, Chronic Diarrhea (bacterial in nature), Peptic Ulcers, Ulcerative Colitis.

Diane, since your last post was in June of this year, please update us about your experience with MMS. My husband and I have just started this week. I made an error this morning, drinking coffee (no Vit. C) after my 3 drop mixture. BAD stomachache and nausea resulted! Crystallized ginger helped with the nausea, but my stomach is in a terrible knot after six hours.

Speaking of acid reflux, I started taking MMS this morning 6 drops with 3 drops citric acid. After about 15 minutes I felt nauseous for about 10 minutes, not too bad, my stomach was relatively empty.

When I got to work, someone offered me a cup of coffee-bad mistake. I have had such burning in my stomach all day for the past 8 hours. So my recommendation is don't drink coffee within several hours after taking MMS.

You DO NOT know how to use it... It is very clearly written in Jim's book 1 drop of sodium chlorite and 5 drops of citric acid, so do it this way, if you take 3 drops of sodium chlorite then 15 drops of citrc acid... Never other way... Do not hazard with your health.

People Please! Read Jim Humbles book. He has a free pdf that explains all this. Search for "Jim Humble MMS free pdf".

Many people on this list are taking MMS wrongly. You MUST activate the Sodium Chlorite solution with an acid - Lemon or Lime juice, or citric acid. Each of these is a 10% acid solution. Use 5 drops of acid for EACH drop of Sodium Chlorite solution. I personally use a 50% solution of citric acid and water, and it takes only 1 drop.

The MMS has prevented my youngest daughter from getting sick, it's healing bug bites on my wife's legs, and on my arms. I've been taking 2 drops activated MMS an hour for about a week (10 hours a day), and feel like a new man. In his full book, Jim Humble tells how to make it in your kitchen. We're buying a lifetime supply of the chemicals to make sure we always have enough. It is fantastic! Just MAKE SURE you're taking it correctly.

You are dosing wrong!! 1 drop mms to 1 drop citric acid and wait 20 seconds.This stuff is powerful in our bodies so be careful how and how much you take.

If you take too much too fast your body will react terribly. Go slow, small drops(1/4 to 3)to begin, up to a maximum of a 3 drop dose per day for three weeks.

That's 24 drops mms and 24 drops citric acid in 32 oz water for a daily dose.

We are also being warned about the many dangers of Marijuana, even though no one has ever overdosed as a direct consequence of using. No one has ever died from MMS.

Be warned, no one has ever died as a result of using these natural remedies!

Many, many people have died as a direct result of misuse or simply as directed use, of otc or prescription pharmaceuticals.

Dear Timh, I am sorry to have to disagree with you about MMS. It is a chlorine bleach and is dangerous. You may not be aware of it but Jim Humble [ what an ironic name ] for a man who considers himself a God....Oscar

@Oscar: I have read two of Humbles e-books on MMS and have personally used it on & off for about 3 yrs. The "danger", to be specific, is the fact that CLO2 is a very powerful almost exclusive non-discriminatory anti-pathogen. A rapid house cleaning, one might say. CLO2 like O3 treatment causes major die-off. This is why Jim has always insisted that one must begin w/ small doses and slowly work up; same goes w/ H2O2.

I have had some temporary nausea and I always decreased the dose so that doesn't happen again. My standard dose is 8 drops. The chlorine taste & occasional nausea is enough to back one away from this substance. I also find H2O2 offensive so very rarely use it orally. Colloidal Silver and/or Lipo-C seems to be the least offensive and most effective natural antibiotics going.

As for character and alternative medicine advocates, read up on the escapades of Ed McCabe and compare to Jim Humble. These guys have endured persecutions for promoting oxygen therapy for the good of the general public w/ very little monetary gain (mostly book publications) for their contributions.

I also hate to disagree w/ you as it seems apparent we need to be helping each other out, what w/ all the problems and all, BUT I really don't see Jim Humble along w/ a Jim Jones type sociopath deceiving & leading potential hundreds or thousands of people to their death.

Hi Timh, Well, just maybe low levels of chlorine bleach [ MMS ] can kill off said pathogens. But I would never say it is safe. Chlorine bleach kills ALL living cells including all human tissues. You have stated you have ongoing health issues including hepatitis C. My point being: If this MMS is so good at killing pathogens why do you still have hepatitis C ? And why all these other health issues ? The BHT will NOT work if you take MMS. I do see we have an entirely different take on all this. I like you but can never endorse treatments such as MMS and OZONE. In fact both OZONE and MMS will totally deactivate BHT. Both are powerful oxidizers and will render BHT useless....Oscar

@Oscar: It is well to put our thoughts to air and w/ any luck gain some ground and no feelings hurt. Wrestle it out in good faith and shake hands when the game is over, like any good athlete would do to the guys on the other team.

First, I stated that my mother contracted Hep-C and that I have very likely the Chronic Active Viral Hepatitis from Hep-B vaccine 20 yrs ago. As of lately, I am slowly making progress from severe environmental illness which has twice almost killed me. Heavy metals, parasites, and pathogens (viral/bacterial/fungal) as a result of very dysfunctional P-450 detox enzyme system plus very dysfunctional immune system. I take a foot spa every night fallowed by 2 oil pullings then 1 250mg BHT fallowed 15 min later w/ 3 caps Echinacea w/ good results. At some other time in between the BHT, I take Chanca Piedra also w/ good results. For me, it seems the BHT and Chanca work almost immediately so I never worry about anything that would negate these remedies later on. This method undoubtedly works for me, but may not for others, so not worth drawing any conclusions on.

Back to MMS. The bare facts. MMS is a lay term, pinned by Jim Humble, for Chlorine Dioxide. One must do kitchen chemistry of mixing Sodium Chlorite w/ Citric Acid to yield ClO2. Chlorine Bleach's chemical formula is Sodium Hypochlorite or NaClO. From Bleach, drop the sodium and add an oxygen and you have a very different molecule. This extra oxygen is what makes ClO2 much more powerful a germ killer and why I refer to it as another member of the Oxygen therapy group. Jim says that one molecule of ClO2 accepts 5 electrons from pathogens (ever how many are rotating around their mother nucleus). Immediately fallowing robbing these electrons, the nucleus becomes entirely unstable and literally explodes (thus the severe die-off reactions of nausea & vomiting the FDA warns of).

If you have time, try and download Jim's first book (I think it's a freebie) MMS Part 1 or Breakthrough: The Miracle Mineral Solution Of The Twenty First Century Pts 1&2 4th edition.

Dear Timh, Well, I do NOT in any way pretend to be a person who knows much or anything about so called MMS. But it does seem to be the same thing I buy called chlorine bleach [ sodium hypochlorite ]. This stuff is so powerful I use it around my property to destroy large ant colonies. Hills of ants about 3 feet or more in diameter and about 1 foot high. I simply take a spade shovel and dig out a shovel full of the ant hill, then pour in 1 gallon of the chlorine bleach in and replace the dirt. That colony of ants is dead. I do not know how deep these ants dig in. Without a doubt this stuff will kill just about anything. Plants will not grow on an area so treated for about 1 year. A great, the best, way of dealing with large ant infestations. A local farmer told me about this. So it is great for killing ants. So I do NOT see how such a deadly compound can be safe to ingest. This stuff costs about one dollar a gallon at THE DOLLAR STORE....Oscar

HI U OSCAR, , , , , , , , , , first , let me say that I love you , but please don't comment on stuff that you have no clue. You can cause great harm to folks that don't know either. I am a Ch. E and spent 40 years in the paper industry bleaching pulp with both these compounds. One is Sodium or Calcium Hypo Chlorite or Clorox. The other is Chlorine Dioxide or MMS . They are two different compounds and have different chemical reaction effects on your body.

======OLE ROBERT HENRY========

Hi, Robert Henry ---- MMS is a blessing for millions at low cost. Jim Humble appears to me as is his name. Just to think how many people are now free from malaria! I have had good response from MMS even though I do not take it daily. Especially my eyes and teeth.

It is worth researching and knowing the gov't hates Jim for what he does.

Om

It's nothing like "chlorine bleach". Which is why they use it in elemental chlorine-FREE (ECF) "bleaching" because what you're calling "chlorine bleach", which is sodium hypochlorite, is a bleaching AGENT and extremely nasty stuff which is why. "Bleach" isn't an element or chemical, it's an action or result of many things including sunshine, lemon juice/citric acid and hydrogen peroxide. Information about this kind of stuff is best not sought from buddies, politicians, pharmaceutical sector press releases or message boards. If you're not interested enough to explore it, why talk about it?

HI U CINDY, , , , , , , , , , please read my earlier post on this thread. Chlorine Dioxide is a far stronger oxidizer. What delayed its use in the paper industry was developing materials to handle it.

Lordy, you are dangerous. Chlorine gas will kill you in natural minute, but the world uses it to disinfect water. Knowledge is the secret. I can handle all these bleaches safely and did so for 40 years in industry. So take your own counsel and read up on the subject.

The FDA does not want you using MMS (ClO2) because it is too effective and too cheap. You messin with their income.

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if the FDA is saying it is bad than you KNOW it must be highly effective and beneficial.

MMS is not chlorine in any form.

If you don't want to use it then don't but misleading the readers here with false infomation is not helping us.

Maybe you ought to read the book or go go to jim humble's website and read.

I would like to add that a Mr Friedman claims that he cured morgellons by using MMS as well as supplements and dietary measures.

Please go to www.theuniversalantidote.com for the MMS story and cures of many ailments....God's blessings and healings to all!

Hi Kathleen, Study THC oil on the net & medical marijuana, plenty of sites on the net.

Hi Kathleen from Southwick. I recomend you e-mail to Jim Humble's website and ask for a specific protocol for your case. They seem to have updated information on these kind of hard issues. I hope you do get in touch with them and don't give up. I am sure you'll find some if not a lot of benefit with MMS or CDS or one of the variations somehow if you follow the right protocol. But ask them directly, don't give up.. Warmly, Margarita

R.H., This may be a little off the Jim Humble recommendation, but this is a method I have used several times w/ good results. Make up a batch of Lemonade w/ limited sugar and limited Vit-C (no added C if possible). Make it kinda on the strong side. Simply add 4 drops Sodium Chlorite to a 4oz lemonade, wait 8 min then drink. You will smell and taste the Chlorine, but it's really not too bad at this low dose.

A 4 drop dose 2x daily is a good start, then slowly increase. I am rather steady @ 8drops (without nausea). I have lacked any kind of daily commitment w/ MMS, but I am convinced that it is all it's hyped up to be. It's a much more powerful oxidizer than H2O2, and the Chlorine atom that houses the O is something special. I always feel better and energized fallowing an 8 drop dose.

HI U GOOD FOLKS DOIN, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , ,

Not going to rain on Jim Hubbles parade because he found a way to get around our government's control of compounds that can keep you healthy. That compound is Chlorine Dioxide. When I started school in the 40's we had tablets which had a paper brightness of about 70. Now students write on paper in the 90's. Why is that? Well back in Paw Paw's day the paper industry had 3 chemicals to bleach pulp with. That was Chlorine , Sodium Hydroxide and Hypochlorite. That was it. In the early 50's the paper industry came up with Chlorine Dioxide and now folks would not accept less.

Let me draw this out a little . Before the Sulfate Process to dissolve lignin and make paper there was the sulfite process. It was an acid process and one paper mill could produce enough vanilla to supply the world. It never did because it would destroy all the folks making vanilla. One pulp mill today could make enough Chlorine Dioxide to supply the world and solve most of the world's health problems. Why is this not done? First, Big Pharma will not allow this to happen and neither will the AMA. Second behind Energy, is health in our economics. You cure health problems and you destroy our economy. That will not be allowed. Hey, Chlorine Dioxide would also be the end of supplements. Now you are between a rock and a hard place. You have just killed medicine and now you kill Earth Clinic. Yep it's that critical. But never fear, this will never be done. We will always need EC. Everyone looks at the little picture, this is the big picture.

Understand that this is radical, but hope it makes you think. Like I told my buddy Mike 62 in Denver. I am smart, but not so delightful.

=========OLE ROBERT HENRY ==============

some ppl might be confusing MMS with MSM.

Hi, Sure hope no one is confusing MMS and MSG.

MSG is methylsulfanylmethane which is one of the best for traumatic arthritis (also helps with allergies and other things) is a substance our bodies require. It is also a great anti-inflammatory without the side effects of the NSAIDS (nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs).

MMS is short for mirace mineral supplement (proper name is sodium chlorite) and it allegedly kills just about all pathogens. If any of you have been reading up on the latest thing coming out of India (allegedly a "gene" that instantly converts all pathogens to drug resistant type. If this is so, we all know that some mad scientists have come up with a new way to reduce the world wide population which is said to be the new world order's greatest desire. Jim Humble claims that there is no way any pathogen can become resistant to MMS. Let's hope he is right and may I suggest that those of you who haven't taken a few precautions, immediately do so, because I fear the NWO is a lot closer than we'd like to think.

If you haven't already done so, get you a few gallons of 35% food grade H202, a few pounds of MMS, a supply of Lugol's solution (15%) or SSKI *saturated solution of potassium iodide). If you find a source of potassium crystals and online source says to mix your own SSKI, fill a brown bottle to about 60% full, next add distilled water to about 90% full, put cap on and shake vigorously for at least 2 minutes. You will know if you have a saturated solution because there should be a few undissolved crystals in the bottom of your bottle. A good supply of these and you should be set to handle many of your own problems without a doctor or hospital. Also suggested is getting a good book on identifi-cation, gathering and preparing herbals that grow in your local area. You will be surprised to learn that many of the best herbals plants are con-sidered as weeds.

PS. If you can't come up with a better way to remember whether you want MSM or MMS - my opinion is that MMS is much easier to pronounce or spell than MSM & maybe remembering to think "mommy, me sick" for MMS will tell you it is the one to use to wipe out an infection.

I think all people should read J Humble's new edition of the MMS book (the 3rd edition). It's on the internet somewhere as a download for free. The understanding and explainations for why it works are great. Do the research and follow the instructions (don't improvise) or drink or eat something you shouldn't then say it does not work or it made me sick... Because that is on you and not the product itself.... The propaganda is out there and TPTB want you under the knife or using drugs that will kill you... make the wise decisions in life.

Peace

I guess that it is easy to get sidetracked about anything. We are genetically disciplined to listen to what the good doctor is saying. However, now-a-day Doctor is just a copy of a copy of a copy of a Doctor from some 50 year old book together with a recipe for good business. If it hides the symptoms and it sells, then that is the way to go. There are countless testimonials from people all over the Globe saying how MMS helped them in many, many ways. Yes, maybe if you foolishly take 20 drops, have all kind of stomach problems and then again, take another 20 drops then I believe that something is wrong with you - not with MMS. Yes, maybe some people had bad experience because of so many different circumstances and I am sure that the Lady from Dr. Sedura's report died and was also taking MMS.

However, it does not say and is not in any way proven that she died from MMS intake. On the other hand, if someone would collect how many people died from using regular medications and procedures that are approved by FDA, it would probably take a better part of the year and more then ten thousand pages to write them all up. However, these are "well known and approved" way to "cure" different illnesses - although I have yet to find a drug that actually cures anything.

This is my take on the article that Alicia from Orlando, FL is pointing us to.

I thought it - MMS - was used in the hospitals to cure malaria? My doctor orders my hormone, I go to pick them up later. I asked my husband what one of the ingredients is in my hormones that I have never heard of? He, goes, that is antifreeze. I called the pharmacy to make with a natural substitute instead. Anyhow, MMS makes it hard for me to breathe. I'm hypersensitive, so hard to say if it is just me or a detox.

OK This is my first of many entries. I say this to anyone who is out there posting on this incredible site. Do not comment on side effects when you have not studied the use and protocols for the substance you are using. Heck, the first time I tried methylene blue I took 20 times too much and got a side effect. Of course, I did not post that because it was my bad math that caused the problem, not the substance. You are confusing others by posting side effects when your lack of knowledge is the problem. Study it first, no matter what it is.

The Doc you are mentioning did no study and is making childish assumptions. MMS, when used as directed by Mr Humble, is an exceptional healer in my life and thousands of others. He 100% deserves the Nobel prize for his work with Malaria and instead, you will see his products for water purification only in the next few months and he is at risk personally for doing nothing but good in the world. I have 80 inches of scars from Viet Nam and it so confuses me that ignorance and money still rule the planet.

Stay the course. Healing of most anything is out there. People have tried the MMS with the CC1 zapper from paradevices for HIV and succeeded.

Never give up. We deserve wellness in this life but, as a great healer once told me,

"The whole purpose of illness is to find the answer". Blessings to all....Jeff ism.

To Jeffism: Very diplomatically put sir! I too have posted similar remarks as I grow weary of people jumping the gun.

Thank you!
Namaste

Forestnfama; I very much agree with you on why people would comment badly toward MMS. I would say it's because they are not educated properly in the use of it. All the information necessary for the proper usage of MMS is found at Jim Humbles site. He has everything there one needs to know about MMS1 and MMS2. MMS is exactly what it stands for MIRACLE MINERAL SOLUTION. It is a GOD send! People have been 'stuped' for so long by the fluoridation, hormones, pesticides, chemicals and soy in our foods, water and air that they haven't the 'sense' enough anymore to make the right decisions. This is exactly what Big Pharma wants. They need us stupid so we will follow their dogma like sheep. This gives them power over us,telling us how to live our lives, making up laws to suit their pocket books etc.! We need to wake up! Anyway, back to MMS :-)

My hubby and I began taking MMS almost a year ago and it is EVERYthing it's supposed to be. People forget the basic premise of this wonder mineral and that is it KILLS all pathogens! Any bacteria or virus in your body WILL BE eliminated from your body. However, people think that is all they have to do. You still need to ingest the right foods and take the right supplements to keep your immune system in peak performance. Once the serious ailments are taken care of, a weekly maintenance dose of MMS will keep you clear of low ph pathogens that are everywhere!

Here's to MMS and keeping it away from big Pharma!

Forestnfama You are a really negative person in that you believe what you want and cut people down who disagree with you. I tried MSM for several weeks (and yes I followed the directions) to cure a UTI infection that didn't want to go away. It did not make me sick, nor did it have any terrible side effects. But it didn't help me at all either. I tried it for a couple of weeks and then finally quit because I was tired of being sick. SO I was put on antibiotics and that cured it right up. MSM couldn't even get rid of the thrush the antibiotics gave me. And now I have an ear infection that is taking months to go away. I have been on MSM again for a couple of weeks and so far nothing. I am open or I wouldn't be trying it again. But so far nada.

My Naturopath has zapped me several times for parasites and amoebas with subsequent muscle testing to see if they were gone. Trouble is that even though the muscle testing showed success, I was not feeling markedly better. I still seemed to have high sensitivity to salmonella and e-coli and was stuck in a cycle of recurring treatments and expensive supplements. I have been using MMS for a few weeks and am at 9 drops twice a day. So far some head fog and diarrhea (minor), but much less use of supplements and more tolerant of food bacteria. My problem with the zapper is I can't tell if it actually did anything.

Hello, I have used the zapper for a long time and can't say that I ever noticed any results. But I have to say from reading Dr. Clark's book that if you have a certain kind of parasite in your muscles you would almost have to wear the zapper 24 hours as they are hard to get rid of. Plus zapping is a surface electricity does not go deep enough to get all the parasites. Any how I got tired of zapping. I have friends who do MMS and are getting great results. I plan to try the MMS when I can have time to deal with some of the cleansing that goes with it. I have had good results using food grade Diatomaceous Earth. I would take 1 heaping teaspoon a day. I even got rid of a festation of mites in my body in 24 hours. Parasite seems to me to be a long term treatment. Probably because of our diets of picking them up again from those who prepare our food. My thinking is we should all do something done evasive to keep them under control. One thing I like about the MMS is it goes very deep in the body even into the brain and bones. From my understanding these areas are very hard places to reach.

As to using Hulda Clarke's zapper. I find if I do her herbal protocol for getting rid of parasites and do not zap I get a cold. I think the zapper does have impact.

I made my own zapper from Dr. Clark's book years ago and used it sporadically. But recently I had a major illness due to mold in my workplace HVAC system which created lumps, seemingly in my lymph system, the last of which were extremely painful. I left the job and started zapping and the lumps disappeared along with the lethargy I also experienced during this time. I mean it was an effort to open my eyes, just move my eyelids! But the lethargy vanishes after a zapping session. I firmly believe in zapping. At least for me it worked. I guess one could question whether just leaving the workplace might have resulted in lump disappearance, but I don't think so, just going by how I felt. Happy Healthy Trails to all of you.