For years I've been taking serrapeptase for arthritis. I just started taking thyroid medication (Armour) for hypothyroidism due to the removal of 1/2 my thyroid gland a few years ago. Since I have to take both serrapeptase and Armour on an empty stomach, I asked my MD if I could take them at the same time first thing in the morning (as I've been taking serrapeptase this way for years). She's not familiar with serrapeptase, so I'm hoping someone here on earthclinic has some experience taking these together?
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Nerve Pain and Scarring
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Serrapeptase.info has a lot of info on this natural enzyme.
Dr Hans Nieper, a famous German heart Dr and researcher, made this discovery - he gave large doses to these blocked heart patients that normally he would have done bypass surgeries. These large doses were to eat the plaque and he did not perform the surgeries. Dr Nieper and parents were all Drs - now deceased, made a lot of other discoveries I suspect it could be possible people with side effects might have ordered an off brand (maybe Chinese-or possibly the ingredients are from China) that caused their issues. I have several of Dr Niepers books. He was a blessed genius.
An example of eating scar tissue: My appendix was removed in 1951…..ugly raised fat scar until 2010 when I discovered this miracle for my hand/elbow surgery. All my scars are now thin white lines. One day I scratched my stomach and huh??? If scar crosses nerves or lays along side - common sense is scar tissue grows and presses on nerves causing pain. The elbow took a year for the pain to diminish and for the pain to go, but they moved the nerve.
I never have had an issue with serrapeptase, but maybe it is me that handles it well or the brand. Wish you well!
Gastro Issues, Weight Loss
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Serrapeptase (enzyme) takes care of fibroid, blocked fallopian tubes, I cant confirm IBS but it did help with my gastro issues. My tummy went down 3-4 inches just in a month of taking it.
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Serrapeptase Side Effects
Serrapeptase Serious Side Effects
WARNING!
See my earlier comment about how Serrapeptase may actually damage joints further.
Using Serrapeptase to dissolve internal scar tissue can normally be a good thing, (ie endometriosis) unless that kind of scarring is also what patches-up joint damage (ie, splits in synovial tissue layers). Then it can cause more problems. A friend and I both found this out the hard way, repeatedly.
Another thing I am now very surprised to read is that Serrapeptase helps produce more Tumor Necrosis Factor - Alpha (TNF-A).
TNF-A has benefits in normal, youthful balance. BUT, it often gets overproduced with age and really contributes to autoimmune disorders and joint damage.
This may have been another reason why Serrapeptase, (for all its good benefits), was so awful to me and my friend's finger joints. This was in spite of my friend, at first calling it a "natural Ibuprofen." The damage soon followed.
I personally suspect the same, potential joint problems with other, inflammatory-reducing proteolytic enzymes I tried since then. It's just they are not as strong as Serrapeptase.
I would also be very wary of trying Serrapeptase to treat Rheumatoid inflammatory symptoms, because these are often treated with anti TNF-A drugs instead.
But so far, I've not noticed any of these concerns from using Nattokinase alone.
Natto seems to have noticeably improved my leg circulation, which is great news, but that's about it
It still doesn't help my allergies and sinuses like Serrapeptase miraculously did - (but at least it's not further injuring my hands.)
I hate throwing cold water on all the good things about Serrapeptase because it really benefited me too. But it also can have a pretty severe Dark Side for some conditions. So, you've been warned...
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I'll keep taking mine but double the dosage and see if that sets well. I've been taking in after my breakfast as I don't do well taking "any" of my supplements on an empty stomach. Thanks in advance for any help at all on this :)
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So I'm going to try it, but would you be kind enough to let me know about the enzyme and a good brand since I notice with many supplements, you have to get the "right" type, the real deal. I accidentally bought synthetic Vitamin C for example, then had to buy the whole foods type, again, the real deal ;)
Thanks much!!
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I did find a naturopath answering your question that you missed.
Monday, 19 July 2021 | 8:25
We have not had any negative feedback in the last 21 years and millions of doses.
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But I, and a friend I turned-on to it, both had synovial knuckle "blow outs" and subsequent cysts / bone-spurs while using it. This seems odd, since Serrapeptase is widely touted for join problems, but my friend recalled reading others online confirming this nasty side-effect.
I later learned from a hand specialist that it is the joint scar tissue that keeps the joints sealed and prevents cysts from returning. Seeing how Serrapeptase is also said to digest internal scarring, this is likely how it is bad for those with this joint condition. I wish Serapeptase was still available as a nasal spray formula so I could localize it's positive effects.
Serrapeptase Side Effects
BUT it also seems to have one, BAD side-effect for me.
I started to up my dosage to 60-120,000 SPU of a big Serrapeptase brand specifically labeled for "healthy sinuses." It was suddenly like a miracle for my chronic sinusitis and allergies - even better than using antihistamines or nasal steroids.
I emailed an online health-nut friend all about it. When he tried it, what he most noticed was dramatic inflammation relief. He started taking it in lieu of Ibuprofen, and told others about it, too.
In passing, I later mentioned how a thumb joint recently had a big "blow-out" injury - a huge, synovial cyst and subsequent stiff bone spur - which my other knuckles have suffered over the past decades - but this was bigger.
He replied that he, too, recently got two of them on his own knuckles for the first time.
He said that he read some online reviews mentioning this can happen when using Serrapeptase.
At first, I couldn't believe it, since Serrapaptase is supposed to help, not hurt joints. Nevertheless, we both backed off using it.
After my cyst didn't go away for over a year, I finally had it drained by a hand specialist, who warned it may return eventually (it did). He added that it is actually the BUILT-UP SCAR TISSUE WITHIN THE DAMAGED JOINTS that PREVENT further leakage and damage from happening.
"EUREKA! " I thought. While Serrapeptase may helpfully remove other painful, or swollen, internal scars, it could also work against a condition like mine.
My online friend gave Serrapeptase another go recently since he missed it so much for his bodily inflammation - and he got yet another blown-out knuckle.
I've since tried a number of other, alternate enzymes for my sinuses and arteries - and seemed to notice higher doses will start to swell and irritate my knuckles again before helping my nose or circulation out at all.
So, I'm truly sorry to warn against using Serrapepse to anyone who has a condition like mine (technically "Heberden's Nodes") or with any similar, joint issues.
(I read that there was once a Serrapeptase Nasal Spray available. A more direct, topical application of the enzyme sounded ideal for my sinus concerns - but it is no longer sold.)
just fyi - I have been taking serrapeptase for about 15 years - sometimes over a million units in a day with absolutely no side effects. The brand I used sold out to a chinese corporation. I was not aware of that and purchased it after not having used it for a year. about 45 minutes after taking 2 capsules I experienced severe stomach cramps and nausea which lasted for about six hours. duckduckgoed it and found the China connection. threw it away and got my money back.
Recently tried another brand that stated 'made in USA which I know can mean 'assembled in USA from ingredients sourced from China. took two capsules and again experienced severe stomach cramps and nausea which lasted for three days. just contacted the company and asked if any of the ingredients were sourced from China. response:
'Could you please give me a call? Your question can be interpreted in a number of ways, and I'm not sure how to answer it in a concise manner.'
That answered my question in no uncertain terms. Threw it away.
Serrapeptase is a wonder supplement on so many levels. But there is a very good reason for people wanting their supplements to be 'china free'. I will now have to try another brand because it is well worth the trouble. I would very much like to name the two brands that made me sick but do not know if that is allowed. Just in case - they were Drs. Best and restoreActive
cheer and good health to us all -
p
Serrapeptase and Surgical Implants
Serrapeptase and Surgical Implants
From what I have read, I don't think that serrapeptase would break down metal, but I haven't done an exhaustive study on it. There are plenty of other possible causes of the pain.
Castor oil can be used to reduce scar tissue. As can comfrey. You may be able to find a salve that contains both or make your own. Many people take comfrey internally to reduce pain and promote healthy cell growth. I grow comfrey and put the leaves in smoothies all summer long.
Other anti-inflammatory/pain remedies would include turmeric, cayenne, and ginger.
I have recently found that baking soda in water once or twice a day is good for pain. Pain seems to thrive in an acidic environment.
Low water intake and sugar intake can also provoke pain.
Castor oil is also helpful for swollen lymph nodes, as is peppermint essential oil. (Be careful not to get this in the eyes! )
I hope you find some things to help your relatives!
~Mama to Many~
Serrapeptase and Surgical Implants
That is a great question, thank you. We reached out to the author of EC's article on Abdominal Adhesions as we couldn't find the source for that warning. Here is her reply:
I wrote that as an "err on the side of caution/first do no harm" warning.
It is perhaps too broad a caution and was not based on a particular source that I recall. I think I put the caution in bc I couldn't confirm that serrapeptase would be safe with implants. It was based on inference. i.e - if serrapeptase dissolves non-living tissue and most implants are made of non-living tissue, then it seems prudent to avoid substances that dissolve non-living tissue. Of course, serrapeptase doesn't dissolve all non-living tissue, but most people don't know what their implants are made of...and do we know everything that serrapeptase dissolves?
For example, I would be concerned about using it in conjunction with certain types of hernia mesh -
"Animal-derived mesh are made of animal tissue, such as intestine or skin, that has been processed and disinfected to be suitable for use as an implanted device. These animal-derived mesh are absorbable. The majority of tissue used to produce these mesh implants are from a pig (porcine) or cow (bovine) source."
Serrapeptase and Surgical Implants
In the article, it said that serrapeptase should NOT be used for people who have implants. Can you explain this in more detail to me? After surgery, my relative had a titanium surgical steel implant put in her neck. Lymph nodes began to swell on both sides of her neck and they cannot figure out why this is happening. She does take serrapeptase. My theory is the serrapeptase is affecting the surgical steel and her lymph nodes are trying to filter something that has become dissolved from the steel. I am wondering if this is possible. The surgery caused scar tissue for another of my relatives. He also has implants.
What can he use to try to prevent the growth of new scar tissue which results from the surgery to remove the old scar tissue. If you can suggest something that could be used, would it still be effective even after a period of time that the body has had to heal after his recent surgery? At this time, no natural remedies have been given, therefore scar tissue has probably begun to form.
If you have some suggestions, I would be very grateful. Thank you
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Serrapeptase from China
Serrapeptase from China
I just ordered my 2nd bottle of Dr's Best 40,000 from Amazon, but I wanted to check the EC comments because both my husband and I got bronchitis really bad while taking it a couple of years ago. We'd never taken it for longer than a week before that. It quite certainly may have been a coincidence since it was January and that was going around, but we both ended up really sick and I got scared of taking it for awhile.
I'm starting to think if it sounds too good to be true it just might not be.
Serrapeptase from China
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Serrapeptase from China
Serrapeptase from China
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Serrapeptase from China
Doctor's Best CEO Gale Bensussen
Doctor's Best is now owned by the Kingdomway Group, a publicly traded company in China. The primary reason Kingdomway purchased Doctor's Best was to provide an authentic, manufactured in the USA brand to the rapidly expanding market in Asia. U.S. brands are considered to be of the highest quality and are sought after in those markets.
Therefore, it is fundamental to Kingdomway's investment that the brand not only maintain its authenticity and integrity, but continue to be manufactured in the USA. There have been no changes in the staff, sourcing, or our quality standards. Doctor's Best is headquartered in California and our manufacturing is done in the USA and will remain in the USA.
We appreciate the trust our consumers have in our brand and we will maintain our brands' quality and integrity as our pledge to our consumers.
Gale Bensussen CEO
Serrapeptase from China
I agree on the fake third party brands that are being sold. I bought a two pack of eye drops that I wanted to use for a recent experiment. Both bottles were supposed to be from the same lot and should have had the same batch numbers on them, but they were different. I opened one and it had the smell of mildew which I had never noticed in any other eye drop solution before then, so I opened the other bottle to see if it also smelled like that. It didn't, so I wrote the supplier and explained the problem to them. They responded by asking if I wanted a refund for the bottle that smelled like mildew. I told them no, that I would send the bottles back and they should send me a pre-inspected replacement pair. They told me to keep the bottles and that they would refund my credit card. That response told me that they were aware of the problem before I ordered their product!
I feel like I should have contacted, Systane, the original manufacturer of the product and let them know what was going on, but I got busy and forgot about it.
Clearly, there seems to be issues with fake goods! The product I received looked just like other bottles of Systane that I have used in the past. It worries me because what if I had had a cold and could not have smelled that mildew smell? What could it have done to my eyes had I used the whole bottle?
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Serrapeptase from China
Serrapeptase from China
All sorts of issues on Amazon coming to the surface. Not just fake reviews, which is an old problem, but more fake supplement brands being sold by third parties. Here's a link to the 1 star reviews for Dr's Best Serrapeptase in case anyone is interested. https://amzn.to/2AQ1DtT
Check out how many negative reviews since April!
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Endometriosis
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Mucus
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Cutting out dairy also helps too.
PS I take Natures Best 250mg​
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To be fair, not only these oral enzymes and pectin are useless; same results, if not worse, I got from NIH TACT study of IV EDTA, in which I participated in 2005, after which my 90% open artery successfully closed.
Eventually (for leg arteries) I had to turn for revascularization (no matter how much I wanted to avoid it), and now, three years later, my surgeon is quietly waiting for my return, because he knows damn well that despite all this hoopla about miracle supplements I will come back by the simple reason - I still cannot walk, nor I can spend all my life to develop sufficient collateral circulation.
I also hoped to get rid from sinus infection at the same time, so I stopped washing my nose with antibiotic solution. Regardless of that, and twice a day wash with saline solution after several months of getting nowhere, I realized that I again should start Wilson wash.
So it is not all gold which shines. Keep your hope, but at the same time keep looking for more established remedy.
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To my amazement cyst was half the size. Nose polyps are gone too. In July I kept forgetting to take it and the cyst laid stagnant. I tried to remember what I was doing and realized it was the serrapatese. 1 month later almost gone. Funny thing with home remedies is that sometimes one doesn't know that they are working until you stop taking it. Lobellia and Muellein for respiratory same story. Stopped my drops woke up congested..hadnt't done my muellein and lobelia routine. Hope this helps.
