Apple Cider Vinegar
(San Pedro, CA)
06/07/2008
this is in response to sandy from merced, ca........it sounds to me like what i have dealt with for about 7yrs.......i investigated adrenal fatigue and alot of what they say, i had it in spades......i looked for a found a dr that helps people with this problem & hypothyriodism, cause they go together like hand and glove...... contact "The Broda Barnes Foundation"....they r on the net...they will send u a list of dr's in ur area that believe these diseases r a real factor in good quality of life..........then look up candida and buffering ur body in between meals and then take ACV with meals...........it helps alot........if u can get the dr to give u armour thyriod & hydrocortisone, which helps ur adrenals take care of the pain and healing..........good luck.
(Merced, CA)
06/14/2008
Answering Chris who answered me about my pain and fatigue. Hey chris thanks for the reply and info I will check up on all that now and see what I can find. I have been taking the acv for the past 5 days, the taste is def something to aquire but Im hangin in and making sure i take a glass of water with 2 tbls acv 3 times a day beyond my usual gallons of daily water intake. All I know is i pray for my cure of all my pain to finally be on its way with the acv. Thanks again, sandy.
(Columbus, US)
06/19/2008
Hi Sandy, am sorry to hear you are going through this much pain. I was heart moved by your story and decided to do a little research and see if I could come up with something. I came across this site: http://www.ayurvediccure.com/herbalremedies/arthritis-jointpain.htm
The name of the product is Arthcare OIL. Please give that a try and let us know the results.
(Wellington, New Zealand)
11/13/2008
To Sandy from Merced..Have just read your letter (dated June) I have had experience with your symptons, suffered similarly for years until I read Dr D'adamos book EAT RIGHT FOR YOUR TYPE (EY4RT) Sticking only to BENEFICIAL foods I had significant improvement within 48hrs. Now I also add the ACV, BS,and BSM (all nuetral on the EY4RT plan) and follow the guidelines for proper rehydration as per the watercure (see www.watercure.com)
10 years ago I could barely hobble, hardly slept for pain and stiffness in my knees, hip joints and lower back as well as a stiff shoulder (injured in my 30's) carpel tunnel injury and fibromyalgia. At 66yrs old I still have some occasional lower back pain but the rest is history. Even my eyesight is slightly improved. The greatest improvement is that I now sleep for hours at a stretch.
There is one other therapy that I have used and the effects were no less remarkable. It is called the FROLOV breathing technique (look up FROLOV on the internet) I started it for pain 4 years ago prior to starting on EY4RT. It took a few weeks for me to feel the effects but there were unusual improvements. A lifetime of suffering travel sickness was cured within 3 weeks with NO recurrence since. A bladder weakness which had me getting up every 1 - 2 hours during the night also cleared and I was able to rest for up to 8 hrs. Also the sciatic pain down my right leg vanished and a chronic "wheeze" I had had for some years afer a lung infection stopped almost immediately With those improvements behind me I started on EY4RT and discontinued the "breathing". However I have commenced again recently as my bladder is starting to weaken again. Will keep at it longer this time, hoping to manage 1 breath per minute eventually..not sure if I'll ever manage 1 in 3mins (I had reached one breath every 40 seconds for duration of 20 minutes, took me 3 months!) Hope there is something here for you.. Cheers and Good Luck
(Asheboro, NC)
06/06/2009
to Sandy:
I empathize with you. This same kind of pain hit me when I was 40. Overnight it seem, I got to where I dread sitting still for any length of time or sleeping at night because I know in the AM I will be so stiff I can't hardly move. It takes me two hours to get moving in the mornings. Even the bottoms of my feet are affected by this. I have been dx with osteoarthritis, but I think it actually started working on my body in my 20's when I began developing mysterious cartilage tears in both knees and a wrist. Now it is in my lower back and my right hip.
Not only does sitting still for long periods create stiffness, but being on my feet (I am a nurse and barely able to work) exacerbates the pain that goes along with it. I have repeatedly asked my doctor about my rights under the Americans with Disabilities Act, but he has not been very helpful, can't get a note for no heavy lifting on my job and I keep getting bounced around from doctor to doctor and still do not have a note about my back problems. They act like I am drug seeking. I bet if I went in there asking for narcotic pain killers I wouldn't have a problem getting those, but I can't get a simple note to protect my rights on the job. I was even sent to a Rheumatologist who charged my 187$ and told me to keep doing what my family doctor told me to do. I have been in and out of the ER with my back locked up over the past two years. I do not know what other proof I need to show that I am not faking this condition.
I too have started putting on weight because I can't exercise as rigorously as i used to, but I still continue to walk and lift light weights. The weight gain is also a two edged sword because it just adds to the stress on the joints.
Lately, I have started drinking about 4-6 oz of Blackberry or Elderberry wine (hard to find) right before I go to bed and this has been helpful. It is helping with the low back pain, the sleeplessness, and the menopause symptoms I am also fighting. Plus it does not leave me feeling dizzy or hung over in the mornings like the Flexeril prescription does. I haven't taken a Flexeril in a while since I started drinking a glass of dark wine. Supposedly dark wine in moderation is also good for lowering LDL cholesterol, so I will see when I go back to the unuseful doctors. Probably wine works the same way as apple cider vinegar.
Hello Sandy,
Been there, done that and what a blessing when you find something that works. I hope you know what poke sallet (also known as pokeweed) looks like and it grows there in Ca. If not, I hope you know someone who does live where it grows and will send it to you. Our plants here in my area won't have ripe berries until this fall, but if you haven't found any source by then let me know and I'll gather some extra ones for you this fall.
I was raised to think that poke berries are poison, but one day when I returned from the doctor, my neighbor who watched my kids while I was gone told me I was moving like I was 90 years old, and got my reply that I felt more like l90 years old and every joint in my body hurt, even my ribs hurt when I breathed. That is when she told me about her Aunt Neme and her poke berries. I started taking poke berries as soon as they ripened that fall and got better very quickly. I was in my 30's when I got the total body pain, and boy was I appreciative of those "not poisonous" poke berries. My neighbor didn't know how her aunt took them, how many of how often, so I just worked that one out for myself.
I ended up taking 20 to 25 pokeberries 4 times a day, with no problems, only good results of lessening pain. Don't chew them, just put them in your mouth and wash them down with water.
One other thing I find very helpful with joint pain is available year round. That is MSM (methylsulfonylmethane) which I learned about from an article in The Journal of Longevity years ago. Since it mentioned that they had been giving it to race horses to keep their joints limber, I figured I'd find it at the local farmer's co-op, so I went there and found a well packaged one that said it was l00% MSM. Took it home and started taking about one ounce of it a day (probably work better as 1 Tbsp. 3 times a day, but I am lazy and one ounce once a day worked for me. Still does. So get going, Sandy. Better days are just ahead when you know what to do. Those NSAIDS don't do much but upset your stomach, increases the risk of ulcers and bleeding, and I never cared for the thoughts of taking Methotrexate (cancer drug) or gold shots with all the unwanted side effects.
(Michigan, USA)
06/07/2009
Sorry for your suffering. Have you been tested for Lymes disease? Read about it please, your symptoms sounds much like it. Sometimes people can have it for 30 years with out knowing. lymes is diffucult to detect through blood. So when you get tested go with a labratory that speciales in Lyme disease and it's co diseases like bartonella and borrelia.
Good luck
(Jasper, Ga)
09/24/2009
To Sandy from Merced California: I am 50 and have been studying and following a natural path for 15 years. I am grateful to my Oriental Medical Doctors because I am sure I would be dead if I had not found them. But I could never understand why I was the 'canary,' so to speak. I never felt good in spite of a wonderful marriage and successful job and a common cold could almost kill me. I eat organic food and have not ingested pharmaceuticals or antibiotics for the past 15 years. In spite of these efforts I continued to grow weaker and weaker. My OMD would look at me and say what have you done to yourself? I had no idea. Obviously he picked up on my toxicity but neither of us had any idea what the cause was. Moving on...I understand pain and exhaustive fatigue and while there are many remedies to address the various symptoms of the disease or poison state (like fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue, arthritis menopause, etc.) I believe I found the cause of my problems right here on Earth Clinic...it is fluoride, insidious fluoride. I am very grateful to Jason Utley for his research and have read everything posted on the Earth Clinic site on the subject of fibromyalgia and fluoride. I have been following Ted's recommendation of 1/8-1/4 tsp of Borax dissolved in a liter of water for daily drinking. I combine this with my 1/4 tsp baking soda, 1/8 tsp sea salt and 2 ounces of ACV by hiding it all in lemonade. I also take 600mg disodium EDTA daily to assist with the chelating process. Unfortunately, chelating is painful but well worth it. After almost two months of following Ted's recommendations combined into my own lemonade elixir I am getting better. I believe my problems began with fluoride and as my toxicity progressed it morphed into many other disease syndromes. At this time I am still unable to work but at least I can walk up the hill. Recently I caught a cold from my husband and followed Ted's Lysine/Aspirin/Vit. C (500mg of each every 50 minutes for 4 hours) combo along with peroxide inhalation (see Bill Munro's video on EC) and colloidal silver and while I still had the cold it was very mild for me and I'm getting over it as fast as my husband, within 3 days. That's a victory because normally I would be down for about a month. I hope you will find this helpful and wish you the best in your quest for health.
(Mexico)
09/15/2017
I am so sorry of hearing your suffering...i think that a good very hot bath with magnesium oil(magnesium chloride)1 cup in the tub for 20 minutes before going to sleep plus taking the formula of earth clinic of boron, plus taking omegas (pharmaceutical grade)could help you a ....lot...
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Diatomaceous Earth
(Thousand Oaks, Ca, Usa)
07/17/2011
Hi LCC, My heart goes out to you as I had the same thing happen to me 7 years ago. It took me over a year to recover. I went through Chinese medicine w/ herbs and acupuncture. Still, it was a long path but I did not use any pain medication or go on any pharmaceutical drugs. Though it was a long journey I believe that we went to the core of the problem rather than masking w/ all sorts of drugs which is typical of Western medicine although naturopaths are doing some amazing work out there now! So, perhaps you want to look into Traditional Chinese medicine or naturopathy. Of course, these are only suggestions for there are many paths to the destiny I am sure. The best to you, Lisa
(Victoria, Tx, Usa)
07/17/2011
Ths is my first ever post. I too have had chronic pain for many years. I went to many traditional drs. But was brushed off or treated like a drug seeker until I went to a rheumatologist and was found positive for rheumatoid factor (blood test). So I am diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis and fibromyalgia since I have pain all over my body. I am taking methotrexate and enbrel. I resisted these as poison until I was told either try them or I could not get my pain medications refilled. Very harsh... But the results are real. I haven't been this pain free since 1995. So whadayagonnado? I tried many natural rememdies and still take a tremendous amount of antiinflamatory precautions naturally. I am 63 and a woman.
(Salem, Oregon)
09/06/2013
Candida.... Try the probiotic product that contains three live bacteria: bacillus coagulans, bacillus subtilis and enterococcus faecalis. About 7-8 boxes over 10 or so months took care of my severe case. After that you still may have the Leaky Gut Syndrome and need intestinal repair products. It took me 4 years to get that damage repaired. But it was all natural clinical supplements, I got from my Chiropractor. You can buy it online.
Guaifenesin
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Since then, I have found that many fibromyalgia sufferers also report an amazingly beneficial effect of guaifenesin on their stiff muscles! It really does work, is sold over-the-counter, and I notice no side effects. They make 600mg tabs, but even 1/2 per day really helps me.
I hope it helps you too!!
High Dose Vitamin D3
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On the suggestion of Sir R.H., I read a book on high dose vitamin D3. When I began taking the vitamin D3, it was an overnight miracle. I started at 10 IU and worked my way up to 50 IU a day, then back down to 10 IU. I also took K2 along with it, per the book's advice. Long story short, the very next day after first high dose Vitamin D3 , when I woke up in the morning I arose up with no pain. I was amazed. That was about four years ago, I still take my Vitamin D3. Now I can skip a few day and still get out of chair or bed without achy body. Ha, ha, ha, now I can compete with the seniors.
HisJewel
(United States)
05/17/2020
Do you mean 10,000 IU and 50,000 IU of vitamin D3? Because I take 10,000 IU daily and don't see much of a difference.
(Hendersonville TN)
05/28/2020
★★★★★
Thank you so much for sharing this, HisJewel! Am taking vitamin D but apparently need to add the K2. I read this a while back and forgot about having to add the K2. Am so happy to hear you are feeling better and was able to control your fibromyalgia naturally. Yes, God loves us so much and cares about our aches and pains, ❤️.
Hi Jewel! Thanks for sharing! I have 2 questions. The 1st is the same question as Sandra : you say you took high dose vitamin D with k2. You stated " I began taking the vitamin D3, it was an overnight miracle. I started at 10 IU and worked my way up to 50 IU a day, "- did you mean 10,000 IU and worked your way all the way up to 50,000 IU?
2nd question: would you please share the name of the book that R. H suggested? (Who is R.H.?)
(New York)
05/22/2024
Greetings Jacqueline of El Paso TX,
Oh my goodness gracious, I wonder how many post I have missed, so sorry I missed some post.
And, thank you all for the corrections, yes I started with 10,000IU. I went up to as much as 50,000 IU of D3 with vitamin k2. If I recall correctly, the suggestion was 100mg of k2 for each 10,000 IU of D3 serving.
As I recall the first time I took one 10,000 D3 vitamin, I surprised myself the next morning, I had an automatic stretch upon waking, and the other surprise was I was on feet without thinking. As far as I can remember, at least 10,000 Vitamin D3 daily and up to 50,000 IU a week was truly the end of my overall body aches and stiffness.
I have run into Polyps with lower pain since then, but that had a different remedy, however; D3 with k2 was the answer to my fibromyalgia. Robert Henry a faithful poster on Earth Clinic mentioned the book the Vitamin D3 Miracle book by Jeff Bowles I guess somewhere in 2017.
The author Jeff T. Bowles also checks his D3 levels regularly, .
This is his book :
https://www.amazon.com/Miraculous-Results-Extremely-Sunshine-Experiment/dp/1491243821/
I know this ebook will help at least a few, it sure helped me.
HisJewel
You have to be careful taking too much Vit. D-3 because I tried that and it caused kidney stones and I had to have an operation.
(norther calif)
07/02/2024
HI Betty, I read a article about vit D that said when you take a shower and soap up your enter body you are washing the oil off your body. The body takes 48 hours to replace the natural oil on your skin, which the body needs to make vit D from the sun.The article advises you should only use soap on your armpits, under breast and your pee and poop area.You should always take vit D with some kind of fat, cheese, wholemilk yogurt etc .Hope this helps
Lemon, Olive Oil, Garlic
★★★★★
Put in a high power blender:
- a whole lemon (cut up)
- 1/4 cup virgin olive oil
- a whole bulb of garlic minus the root
- water
Whip it up and drink it.
I had chronic pain all over my body for years. Within an hour I felt much better. It works even better to drink it and do cardio.
(Nc)
03/04/2018
When you say whole lemon, do you mean the peeling too? How much water? And, did you drink it all at once or over a period of time? High doses of Garlic tend to push me into Hyper-Thyroid & an anxiety/increased blood pressure situation, but this sounds like something I'd like to try, so would appreciate additional instructions. Thanks!
(Anon)
03/05/2018
Peel and all, it cuts the heat from the garlic. I tried with just the juice and without the oil and it will make you throw up. The peel and olive oil are necessary. You could probably use less garlic, but it may not work as well. Onion did not work like garlic did. But onion is also very good for you and can be used.
Here is another drink that relieves pain for me. You can make two juices and drink them seperate, the greens don't taste good with the lemon. Choose organic or it may be ineffective. Add water if it's too thick.
In high power blender mix:
1 glass cold water
1 finger of ginger
4 fingers of turmeric
1 bunch parsley
1 bunch cilantro
Juice from 1 lemon
I hope that helps you. Pain can be caused by lots of things, if it doesn't help keep trying things till you find what does. Colloidal silver and Lugol's iodine are great, too. So is nutritional yeast, brewer's yeast, and raw egg yolks. All depends on what's messed you up.
Magnets
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(Brookline, Ma Usa)
03/10/2013
Hi, what kind of magnets did you use and how did you use them. Are there any dangers in using them? Thanks.
(Andalusa)
07/03/2014
Hi, what kind of magnets do you use and how does one use them for pain? Could you be very specific. Does one need expensive magnets or do cheap small ones work? Any dangers in using them? Thanks, lileetha
Oil Pulling
★★★★★
EC: Read more about Oil Pulling here: https://www.earthclinic.com/remedies/oil_pulling.html
(London, Britain)
05/25/2011
In answer to various questions about what works for recovery from CFS.
I've had it for 15 years, bad enough to not work for about 6 years but now I am working, living a pretty normal life and am probably up to around 85% recovery/ normality.
I've tried just about every treatment over the years, taken loads of supplements, many that ahve been mentioned on here already and have undertaken many different kinds of detox, including a full mercury detox.
And I have to say that my overwhelming belief is that CFS is essentially a number of symptoms that derive from a disrupted nervous system.
We're in an almost cosntantly activated sympathetic nervous system state and our parasympathetic side can't switch on.
Expelling toxins from the body will help to comabt this, having an intake of good nutrition helps too and getting any virus/ infections under control is part of it but fundamentally none of these factors will be the major thing for most of us (otherwise they'd be 'curing' everyone with CFS by destroying their viruses with Olive leaf or by fasting and deotxing for a month or whatever).
We each of us have to find a way to turn our sympathetic nervous system off and turn the parasympathetic on, this isn't easy, we're in a constant stress feedback loop, we're fatigued and we're worried about our health, our futures and often our careers and money.
But it's the key, some of this will involve daily practices to get the body to start to relax, whether this is meditation or body scanning or whatever, then we have to be aware of your thoughts, do we worry about everything, are we optimistic or pessimistic, we need to sort out our thought patterns so that our thoughts aren't prolonging the stress response.
And then we may well ahve to address past traumas or events that may be contrinuting to a stressed body, how we do that is for each of us to work out individually, it may involve seeking the help of professionals but it's suurprising how much we can accomplish on our own.
I've got no doubt that CFS is a very real physical illness but I don't beleive that it is randomly caused viruses or infections. I believe that these are secondary factors that get in behind a stressed immune system, addressing the underlying causes of this stress is key, CFS is not a psychological condition but there is a psychological component to its cause and consequently to the recovery process for most of us.
Good luck.
Oil Pulling
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Peppermint Oil
★★★★★
Last night I had a bad bout of Acid Reflux. I posted on that thread as well. But during the same time, I developed what appears to be some chronic pain in the bone area behind my ear. As I felt around, and tried to massage it a bit, it did go down a bit lower as well, into my neck and area of some bone-spurs I have there. I put my icepack on the area, but that seemed to aggravate it, and I could still feel the pain. It was hurting more than ever before, and really kind of scared me. But I stayed calm and decided on trying something else I had read about. I have taken to Essential Oils, just for calming and comfort, but hadn't tried them on anything like this.
I feel the strongest one is the Peppermint so I just put a drop on my finger tips and massage JUST the area of the pain. I found with Frankincense and Peppermint both, I don't need a "carrier" oil because neither bothers my skin. My pain was completely gone within minutes. Nothing super special about my oils, I by "middle of the road" price-wise. They are 100% pure though, and zero other ingredients. I should mention that I tried Peppermint Oil on my temple for migraine, a totally different sort of pain. Mine are hemoplegic. The Oil didn't work on that, for me anyway. That was some time ago, but I am glad I tried again with this other aching pain.
Rock Salt Treatment
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I came across your sight searching the web on acv & lemon juice remedies. I took the time and read through your sight seeking my issues hoping to find a remedy I could try or experiment on my issues with. I have been dealing with these issues for over 20 years and I have seeked Medical attention but am not a pill taker. Besides the pills dont work. I figure maybe i am low on minerals, enzymes or something. I take vitamin supplements. I need some suggestions on how I can get my life back I am very active but have been shorten by pain and stiffness. Afraid to walk without a cane for fear of falling my knees feel unstable to hold my body weight and i feel it is largely due to the h20 retention when its too cold my legs feel like frozen ice. I have a mass in my deltoids on one arm and the doctors says it nothing to be concerned about. It gets painful and sometimes presents diffulculty in using my arm i have noticed if i have ice therapy used in a massage technique it begins to break whatever it is up. I know what to do on some things the problem is somethings I cannot do myself.
Does anyone know about RockSalt bath for dropsy treatment = a treatment for fluid retention where you cover your body in a bath with rocksalt or seasalt and wrap yourself in a sheet i seen this proceedure somewhere but now cannot find it.It is suppose to pull all the extra fluid out of your tissues through your skin.
I do know of two remedies that work if you've been biten by a spider or insect and its caused swelling and redness and pain mix some tumeric and olive oil into a paste and apply it on the infected area and it will draw out the venom and reduce the swelling and relieve the pain. This has to be done several times over 7 days. You leave it on and repeat it 2-3 times throughout 7 days and it will be an improvement.
Another remedy that works if your lower extrementies are having difficulty in asorbing oils lotions or resisting water when your bathing. soak your legs in a bath of acv and warm water for about 30 minutes immediately your legs will begin absorbing again. I have done both. with the legs my medical doctors told me that they were dying and a japanese massuse told me about the acv bath and to never use anything on my skin i cannot eat. I went back to the doctor and showed them my legs. They didnt knowwhat to say but told me to keep on doing what i am doing. I have not had that severity with asborption since. I have had to repeat the bathe again 7 years since i first tried it.
okay hopefully someone can help with the itching =chronic utercaria and the chronic pain and stiffness w/ h20 retention in the areas i mention. I will anticipate your response. thank you and May the Creator of All living substance Bless each and everyone of you and your endeavors. NJ
Shiatsu, Magnesium, Herbs
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(Pennsylvania)
10/20/2018
it was 8 years ago, will you know about my reply? (is there some notification when someone replies to your post?) My husband has full-body pain probably due to lymes (drs are not fast with diagnosis but frankly I'm glad we wait before their drugs). I want to try shiatsu on him but he is hardly able to move so there is only me to do it. Your first shiatsu--WHICH POINTS? I usually massage his feet-any points there?
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