Posted by Jan (Tucson, Arizona USA) on 05/20/2020
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https://greatlakesgelatin.com/collections/collagen
Comes in smaller cardboard cylinders, too. Easily mixed with beverages.
Posted by BChristine (United States) on 05/20/2020
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Please see the latest report from OCA regarding collagen. Great Lakes contains heavy metals, along with a few other ones that were surprising:
https://www.organicconsumers.org/blog/consumer-beware-these-popular-collagen-supplements-contain-heavy-metals
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Posted by Art (California) on 05/20/2020 2451 posts
Hi, Roger!
I'm hoping that you see similar results as my friend did! Please come back after some time and let us know how it works for your knees and pain as this will be useful for many here on EC! I noticed in the Amazon reviews of this product, users reported improvements in their knees as well as other joints and the back, which seems to make sense as certain forms of collagen are found throughout the body.
Pain is always an issue for many, so having things on hand that can be useful is a good thing. I may have an idea or two for you, but I have to check with EC first to find out if this is the appropriate thread to put it in since this post is specifically about collagen and torn tendons and ligaments. Another consideration is that taking another new product at the same time as testing this collagen supplement may not allow you to know which one is working or which one is working better. I will get back to you after I check with EC about where to post back to you and they give me an answer.
I know from experience that when you have significant pain, as it sounds like you do, any relief is welcome and I may have a couple of ideas that may be helpful and can be used while you are testing collagen without affecting the outcome of your test, so I will get back to you soon!
Art
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Posted by ORH (TEN MILE, TN) on 05/21/2020
ART,,,,,,,,, ever once in a while a feller come along that has something good to talk about. I think you are one of those fellas. At 83, my skin is tissue thin. It tears with the least brush against something. I just ordered the product that you recommended. Not a deal, as we knew we would have old age problems and have the cash to do what is needed. I also like your approach to solving a problem. I have used that logic my entire life and it works. I have a Ch E degree from Ga Tech, but my logic come from being an Eagle Scout. My Scout Master did not care if you got above a Tenderfoot, but if you were in his troop, then you could live in the woods with ease. You bonded with nature. Thank you for your contributions to EC. We just different kind of folks from the norm.
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Posted by Art (California) on 05/22/2020 2451 posts
ORH,
It has been a while! I really don't have experience with collagen for thinning skin, but that is one of the primary uses that it is often recommended for. I don't think the topical collagen creams can do that much because it is such a large molecule that I am doubtful that even DMSO would be able to pull it in.
Vitamin C will also increase collagen production, so it will likely work well with the collagen, and C is anti-inflammatory and a good antioxidant. Application of a saturated solution of MSM, which you probably already have on hand, can be useful for the outside of the skin, followed by some vitamin e oil applied on top of the MSM, which may also be useful. MSM seems to penetrate the skin fairly quickly, and it also increases collagen production. It may allow the vitamin e to penetrate a little better while the sulfur content is reparative. Topically applied melatonin liquid may be even better than vitamin E since it is a more potent antioxidant as well as a more potent anti-inflammatory. I have not attempted to work on thinning skin previously, but these seem likely to help improve the overall condition of the skin and protecting what you have. When taken orally in the evening, the melatonin also upregulates the gene expression of the body's potent antioxidants such as Catalase, Glutathione Peroxidase, and Superoxide Dismutase. In contrast, melatonin itself is a very potent radical scavenger of multiple species. Applying melatonin liquid topically will get in your system and affect the antioxidant system accordingly because it readily enters tissues throughout the body.
Let us know how it works out, ORH as this is a fairly common problem.
Art
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Posted by Roger (United States) on 05/21/2020
Thanks Art, please do let me know your ideas. I appreciate any suggestions.
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Posted by Art (California) on 05/22/2020 2451 posts
Roger,
I get a little turned around in this thread, but I did give another answer about possible pain relief. You'll have to look for the reply in this thread.
Art
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Posted by Art (California) on 05/22/2020 2451 posts
Thomas Lewis, I agree with the HA as I used it for degenerative disc disease (DDD), as explained to us by Ted, many years ago. He had created a formulation that we could make and would last close to a week per mix in the refrigerator. It was adequate for that purpose until I found borax, which resolved my problems for over a decade. I think you are also correct about HA acting as a lubricant, and I believe it also acts as a cushion. For your shoulders, magnesium chloride spray oil or mag oil (MO) may help ease some of the pain if you haven't already tried it as it is prevalent on this forum. Here is a link to a typical product. Read some of the reviews to get an idea of the many uses that people have found for MO. https://www.amazon.com/Magnesium-Oil-Spray-STRENGTH-Essential/dp/B01N0KQ9QJ/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=mag+oil&qid=1590084926&sr=8-6 People think it is good to take borax until the pain goes away and then take a break from it. Still, I believe in following Ted's advice of continuous use with weekends off because borax does much more than put arthritis into remission. To get those other benefits, ongoing use may be a way to go. It helps to protect the skeletal structure and helps to ameliorate osteoporosis, and its boron content is useful with vitamin D and vitamin D cofactors in helping to get and keep calcium where it is most beneficial. Art
