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Yes, her hair looked like it belonged on a 30 year old!!! It had not only filled in her thinning areas, it was thick, full and dense! She was thrilled and told me how she had just been to her hairdresser and she was shocked at the difference! Her hairdresser immediately wanted to know what my neighbor had done and she said she started using a specific collagen supplement that I had suggested for her. Her hairdresser wanted to know exactly what it was!
My neighbor went on to tell me that her friend was also amazed at the change and she wanted to try it too!
Overall, this product is producing pretty amazing results for more than just torn ligaments and tendons!
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I have only been taking this product for two weeks today, but I am very hopeful! I am definitely feeling better and sleeping better as well. And....I haven't taken ANYTHING for pain for almost a week!! DeeDee
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciprofloxacin
So for me, because Cipro contains fluorine, that automatically disqualifies Cipro as an outright poison for the human body and so you should NEVER take Cipro as a medication. EVER.
Cipro, characteristically, is well known to cause "sudden tendon rupture" as a side-effect and that's because Cipro causes tissue/cell necrosis(cell/tissue death) caused by the fluorine in Cipro. The favorite tendon that suddenly snaps or breaks for no reason when you've taken Cipro is usually the Achilles tendon in the lower leg.
The liver also has great difficulty getting rid of fluorine from the body. So it stores it within the body as fat instead. Excess fluorine is also stored in the bones and teeth. And, unfortunately, fluorine is also easily absorbed by the thyroid gland instead of iodine -- especially if your diet is low in iodine and your are hypothyroid. Thus many people in the US who take Cipro will suffer all the poisonous effects of fluorine plus all the hypothyroid symptoms as well -- low energy, low mental accuity, tired all the time, poor immune system, digestion problems etc etc.
The only two nutrients I know that will remove fluorine safely from the body are Lugol's Iodine(also recovers the thyroid) and Borax.
https://www.earthclinic.com/remedies/lugols-iodine-supplements.html
https://www.earthclinic.com/remedies/borax.html
And because fluorine can be stored in fat, bones and teeth, this also means that it will take quite a while to remove or detox all that fluorine from all those difficult areas in your body(probably >year).
By the way, Cipro is usually the drug of choice if your doctor is clueless as to what is causing your problems. For instance, this year my wife had a bad upset stomach/intestines and had to go to the hospital. The doc didn't know what was actually causing her problems so he just prescribed Cipro. I immediately objected and asked him whether he was aware that Cipro was a poison because of the fluorine. The young doc -- who must've been about 24 yo -- looked at me strangely as if I was an idiot. And then I said, "And are you aware that Cipro has a FDA Black Box warning on the the box it comes in?". That did worry the young doc (he didn't know about the black box warning, I kid you not!) but he still prescribed Cipro for my wife. Anyway, on my advice, my wife didn't take the Cipro. I advised that she should just take several aspirin that day and in the evening. The next day she was fully recovered. The aspirin killed-off the bad bacteria that was causing all her problems.
True story. In the old days -- pre-WWII -- if the older doctors didn't know what was causing a patient's problem/diseases they would normally always give their patients high dose 5% Lugol's Iodine. These old docs admitted that they didn't understand how LI worked or what it did but they all said that Lugol's Iodine "would always do something good." But now, if the modern docs don't know your problem/disease they will probably give you Cipro. And if ever there was a completely useless, only-for-profit antibiotic drug out there that was not beneficial to the human body -- it's a poison! -- Cipro is it.
Did you know that Ciprofloxacin is also on the WHO's list of Essential Medicines? Cipro is just dangerous chemo in a pill. And the docs are prescribing it like it was jelly-babies...
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As if the blown tendons and ligament tears aren't bad enough, Cipro is also known for causing nerve damage resulting in peripheral neuropathy!
Cipro is in a class of antibiotics known for these problems of which there are many different names as outlined here :
https://www.webmd.com/brain/news/20130826/fda-strengthens-fluoroquinolone-warning
It is not enough to just scratch Cipro from the list of drugs you will not take because there are many different named drugs in this drug class as mentioned in the above link. Levaquin is another popular one from this group, but there are many more and the patient has to be aware of this in order to protect themself from these potential very serious side effects!
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Thank you for the kindness and wisdom contained in your response to my letter. In the past I've tried two different types of collagen, one bovine sourced, the other marine, and had negative reactions to both. Brain fog, overwhelming tiredness, not wanting to do anything, so I should have known better than to try Dr Emil's version. I believe it was the success your friend had in taking the supplement, and all the different types of collagen in it that persuaded me to give it a try. Plus I was desperate because the arthritis in my right knee had spread to my left hip and I needed a solution!
I've taken many supplements in the past to stay well and have been relatively successful, so when I read of your recommendation for Amla I couldn't resist. I know you recommended it for memory loss, and my need is a solution for arthritis, I decided to give it a try because it is said to be good for so many ailments. I purchased the Amla in powder form (the taste is not good), along with Moringa (taste again not good), also a capsule filling device, and have been taking these two supplements to help with the arthritis and general health. And have been waking up filled with a wellspring of happiness and the arthritis pain at a more manageable level.
Amla has been used in Avedic medicine for centuries, and I feel it to be relatively safe, so thank you for the recommendation.
Best wishes.
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In 1995 (unfortunately, before the Internet), I was prescribed Cipro for pneumonia. I had a very bad reaction, resulting in hospitalization.
Believe me, that was the last time I trusted a doctor.
I wish I knew then what I know now. Fortunately, with sites like Earth Clinic and mercola.com, I have been able to stay away from conventional doctors. I haven't taken any prescriptions since 1995 and rely on Lugol's, supplements, borax, and a host of other things, to stay as healthy as I can.
On another note, I hope you and your family are safe from Typhoon Goni.
Take care!
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The time range (years) between when you took cipro and when you started having symptoms is generally considered outside of the range that cipro can do damage.
Here is how I would look at it. It appears that cipro is not the likely cause, so I would move cipro out of the equation and then focus on the problem at hand which is the full thickness tear of the gluteal tendon. You are on the right course with starting on the collagen supplement. For myself in this position I would also take vitamin C to further increase collagen production and I would also give some consideration to taking gelatin as a supplement and possibly hyaluronic acid, but definitely 2,000 mg minimum of vitamin c per day.
On a related note, the friend that I wrote the collagen post about is doing well, but he went on a trip and forgot his collagen and so far has not had a problem with the missed doses.
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I also tried 3 mg, 6 mg and 9 mg of boron before trying borax and it offered no benefit at all. I wasn't taking boron individually, but rather it was included in the glucosamine multi supplement I was taking at 3 mg per serving. In desperation I had increased the glucosamine supplement to 3 daily servings to try to reduce my arthritis pain. This effectively increased my boron intake to 9 mg/day, but this resulted in no benefit in terms of pain relief as my arthritis was significantly advanced by that time in my life.
I read about Ted's borax recommendation for arthritis and eventually went out and bought a box of 20 Mule Team Borax. That box sat on my shelf for about 3 months before I finally got the nerve to give it a try. It wasn't easy for me to try a laundry booster orally, but I finally tried Ted's dose of 1/4 teaspoon of borax for men mixed in the quart of water and drank the full quart each weekday and took the weekends off. The results for me were life changing because this put my arthritis into remission and has kept it there for about 15 years now.
Borax does not work for everybody because some people are unable to tolerate it and I have seen this happen in a couple of friends, but judging by reports on EC, it seems to help the majority of people who have tried it, but like anything else, it requires taking it to find out if it will help you or not.
Ted's dose for women is half of the men's dose or 1/8 teaspoon in a quart of water consumed in full each weekday with weekends off.
To give an idea of how much boron the dose of borax contains, borax is said to contain approximately 11.3% boron. On my digital milligram scale, my 1/4 teaspoon of borax weighs in at about 985 mg. Multiply this times .113 or .113 x 985 = 111.35 mg of boron in the men's dose and half of that or (111.35 /2=55.6525 mg) approximately 55 mg in the women's daily dose. A note of warning, not all 1/4 teaspoons are exactly the same size, so the dose can vary depending on your 1/4 teaspoon.
The original discoverer of the use of borax/boron for arthritis, Dr. Rex Newnham used lower dosing than Ted, but he also found it effective for many people with arthritis decades before Ted. So it seems the effective dose is not carved in stone, but it is the dose that Ted recommended for men that worked very effectively for me, so that is the one I mention.
I think one of the reason that Ted suggested sipping the quart throughout the day was to essentially create a timed released dose that would be less likely to have negative side effects on the gastrointestinal system because sipping would help prevent large concentrations of the high pH borax in the digestive system at any one time, potentially reducing the potential for gastric upset or discomfort, that some users have reported and found intolerable. There is always the possibility that a person can be allergic to almost anything, including borax and I did see this in one friend who was not able to take borax. So that has been my experience with borax for arthritis and I am very glad that I finally decided to test borax. I was at a point pain wise where I felt I had to at least test it. It is also worth mentioning that boron/borax has shown potential benefit for osteoporosis/ osteopenia as I discussed here :
https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/osteoporosis-supplements-art-solbrig.html
Lastly, based on multiple friend's experiences with melatonin lotion for various body aches including arthritis, I think melatonin lotion that they made themselves is turning out to be quite useful. You can read about their results and how they made their melatonin lotion at home with simple and common ingredients here :
https://www.earthclinic.com/supplements/topical-melatonin-pain-relief-success-stories.html
You might also read the replies to the original article as there is more reporting or updating there.
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I have never seen anything that would indicate that collagen supplementation can cause low sodium levels.
Common causes of Hyponatremia are certain diuretics, excessive water intake, hormonal imbalance, excessive diarrhea, dehydration, antidepressants, Cushing's Syndrome, excessive exercise, NSAIDS and other pain medications.
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I'm very happy to hear that the collagen is significantly helping with your wrist! My friend is getting on quite well with it and I saw him out in his yard working with different shears, clippers and a hedge trimmer with no problem the other day and his happy!
Regarding your ankle, a few things things come to mind without knowing more, gout, a fracture or arthritis. Gout is caused by too much uric acid and the number one remedy on EC is apple cider vinegar, but pure black cherry juice is also helpful for gout.
For arthritis, borax, MSM and boron are useful.
For a fracture, you will need an xray to confirm and then you can work on it from there.
No matter the cause of the pain, a good topical pain reliever should be effective, but it would be better to have your doctor determine the cause first.
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Yes, they had been doing that, but very recently I recommended it to another friend and they did not offer them the other two free bottles. They're over 22,000 reviews now, so they probably figure they have enough reviews.
When they asked me for a review, they did not say it had to be a positive review, just that a review was required in order to get the other 2 bottles and they always delivered the extra bottles to all of the people I have recommended it to up until this friend that I last recommended it to.
On a related note, a friend that I recommended it to had been taking a popular collagen supplement for years and never got any benefit from it, but this one thickened her hair to a level of a much younger woman, but the first friend I recommended it to saw no difference in his hair, but he did get a tremendous benefit for his torn tendons and ligaments, which is remarkable!
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Here is a link to the original article that has a link in it directly to the exact product that she and my friend used to very good effect for different reasons:
https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/collagen-for-torn-ligaments.html
It's near the bottom of the article with an Amazon link, right before you get to the "Conclusion".
Regarding dosing:
They both followed the directions on the bottle, 3 capsules at the same time with 8 ounces of water, once a day. It took her about three months to see the results.
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Thank you for the reply and I'm sorry that the collagen was not helpful for you. I guess your previous issues with collagen were the warning.
The Amla is a very impressive supplement with the long history of healthful benefits that you mentioned and is the reason why it was the first supplement I offered to my friend to try and get her off of her prescription meds.
It has antioxidant and antiinflammatory qualities and at the amounts used has shown the ability to lower certain inflammatory mediators such as IL-1b, IL-6, TNF alpha and NF Kappa b. It also very significantly increases glutathione by up to 50% in just 12 weeks! Both antiinflammatory and antioxidant effects are likely what is helping your knee. You said you have tried many supplements, but have you tried, borax, MSM or boron yet for the arthritis as longer term remedies? I can recommend a couple of topical pain relievers, but they only offer temporary pain relief, but don't offer longer term relief as borax, MSM or boron can. There are also homeopathic remedies I can suggest.
I've even used borax topically for arthritic hands, but have not tried it that way for a knee or a hip. I made it into a lotion for the hands. Oral borax was a game changer for me and has kept my arthritis in remission for well over 12 years now and it was severe arthritis!
Colloidal silver has also been suggested for arthritis and while I have used colloidal silver a lot, I have not tried it for that purpose and since my arthritis is now nil, I can't even test it on myself first for arthritis.
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Not complaining, but woke up this morning and and my ankle is in severe pain for no reason. Soaking it in hot epsom salts and applying magnesium spray. So I'm back on crutches. I believe this is caused by the Cipro.
Any other remedies please let me know. Thank you, Ray
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I forgot to mention if you think the ankle is from cipro, take vitamin c and extra if you are already taking it. It may also help with gout if it is caused by gout.
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Processed collagen does not suit everyone!
You are correct, not everything suits everyone and this goes for vitamins, supplements, herbs and prescription medications. Even something like vitamin D can not be taken by everyone. If the product was not compatible with you, I would definitely return it no matter how many pills are left in the bottle!
Even with prescription medications such as blood pressure medications, it always comes down to trial and error because nobody knows if one medication will work for an individual until they try it and that is the reason there are so many different blood pressure medications, because if one doesn't work or is incompatible with you, the doctor simply has you try another one. Supplements are the same, trial and error. I try to report the ones that show success in studies or people or both. Thank you for the feedback, Gracie! Positive feedback is nice, but it is also good to know about the downside too.
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I'm taking 6 mg daily of boron but haven't tried straight borax. The boron removed my brain fog which was a pleasant surprise! My 24/7 pain is related to overuse of antibiotics coupled with a 40-year-old set of pelvic fractures which never healed properly. On top of that my cartilage is nearly gone in both hip sockets. So both legs constantly ache; and I have sharp low back pain from the osteoarthritis.
Do you feel borax would be beneficial for me?
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I really have no idea about the use of melatonin for a multi decade nasal issue. It worked extremely well to get rid of my months long cough, but that is not the same issue.
If it is really arthritis in your back, borax is what has put my arthritis into remission for well over a decade using Ted's dosing recommendation for men. It costs less than a penny per day at Ted's dosing schedule. When I say remission, I mean no pain at all from what was severe pain in most joints. I would not be without borax now. Collagen can help some people with arthritis, but I suspect that it is a different method of action than borax. If I had to choose only one for arthritis, my first choice would be borax as I believe borax goes after the cause while collagen may just be replacing what is being depleted by the disease process. For some people, MSM works well for relief from arthritis pain, but I am not one of those people and some people are sensitive to MSM and can not use it. I don't consider DMSO to be a practical long term option, but some claim it relieves arthritis pain and other forms of pain, but again, I am not one of those people as it does zero for any pain issues I have tried it for including arthritis.
If I had a similar nasal issue, I think I would try Mucinex, a neti pot using different active ingredients including a blend of colloidal silver and xylitol, quercetin, homeopathy and a nasal spray called Xlear in no particular order. Here is a link for Xlear which also contains xylitol which can act as an anti-irritant.
Good luck and please keep us posted on how you do!
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I have been using the collagen supplement you recommended to strengthen tendons since my shoulder had been hurting and seemed to be getting worse. Anyway, I bought it on Amazon as you posted, but when I went to buy another bottle, I went directly to the site of the maker to give him my business, and he (was, is? ) offering two free bottles, postage paid, for a positive review. I received mine today. Just wanted to pass this along because supplement costs can add up and I was just speechless at this offer. Thanks for suggesting this collagen. RSW
Thanks again, DeeDee
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Please come back to EC and share your results!
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I think this one below may be worth giving a try as it is powder that can be mixed into a smoothie, coffee or just about any cold or hot drink. This one is obviously popular with over 26,600 reviews and a 80% five star rating and a 4% 1 star rating! An 80% 5 star rating is very impressive with this huge number of reviews and the 4% of 1 star ratings is also very impressive with this many reviews. Generally, as the number of reviews grow, the 5 star rating drops and the 1 star ratings increase, but this product with the huge number of reviews has managed to keep its ratings very high! These are very good numbers when there are 26,600 reviews! It is not exactly the same formulation as the capsules that my friend used, but it seems worth a try. Collagen Peptides Powder by Sports Research https://amzn.to/2Tu4WQf
Kate, if you do decide to test this product, please come back to this post and give an update to EC so if it works well for you, others on EC who have swallowing issues can also have a viable option to the capsules!
Thank you! Art
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EC: Hi Doreen, It's called: Multi Collagen Plus (Types I, II, III, V & X) - Collagen Peptides + Absorption Enhancer - Grass Fed Collagen Protein Blend for Anti-Aging, Hair, Skin, Nails and Joints (90 Collagen Capsules) by DR EMIL NUTRITION
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If that collagen supplement is working good for you, that is great! I specifically mentioned Multi Collagen Plus Types I, II, III, V & X, because that is the exact product that worked for my friend for his torn ligaments and torn tendons. He also tried a similar product with the same ingredients on the label and it did not work for him at all as he continuously declined while taking it and turned out to be a complete waste of time and money. I don't normally point out a specific product like this, but because it has worked very effectively for him and the other similar collagen product did not,
I am specifically pointing out the collagen product that did work for him very well. When I started reading the reviews for the many collagen products out there, it became clear that judging by the ratings and comments not all collagen products are created equal! It's not like vitamin D where most brands are going to be similar in effects, so brand is not a critical issue, but in this case I am pointing out the product that worked very well for his purpose so there is no confusion about what worked for him.
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My knees were loose in their sockets in 2015, but their cartilage filled in back to normal in 4 months by taking a capsule of chicken sternum mornings. In 2016, another person canceled their hip replacement during 6 months of taking the chicken sternum capsules. During the same 6 months, a friend of the hip replacement person could not stand in the buffet line without having to sit down because of knee pain, but ended up canceling their knee replacement by taking the chicken sternum and was walking around normally as if the knee had never hurt. More recently in April of 2020, another 86 year old person's severe knee pain was healed within 4 months of taking a capsule per day of the Swanson chicken sternum.
A bottle of 120 capsules currently costs about $15 from Swanson: https://www.swansonvitamins.com/swanson-premium-chicken-sternum-cartilage-collagen-type-ii-500-mg-120-caps
Also fromPipingRock: https://www.pipingrock.com/chicken-collagen/chicken-sternum-collagen-type-ii-500-mg-120-capsules-8483
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If the topical naproxen or ibuprofen is not enough relief, do not order the homeopathic cream as it is approximately equivalent to those two in terms of pain relief, but a more natural alternative that some people prefer. Myself, I find naproxen more effective than ibuprofen, but I am allergic to naproxen so I can't use it.
Let me know how you do with the naproxen cream.
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I had three or four rounds of Cipro seven or eight years ago, but only recently been diagnosed with torn tendon. (I had x-rays and MRI with and without contrast) It shows full thickness tear of gluteal tendon. My orthopedic surgeon has me going to physical therapy for six weeks to see if that helps, before surgery. However, I feel like my tendons in arms are bad too! I know I have arthritis but this feels totally different. I ordered the collagen that you suggested and started with the 3 pills a day on an empty stomach. I have only been taking them for one week now, so no improvement yet. Anyway, my question is how long CAN cipro take to do this damage?? Everything I have read says the longest is up to six months but mine has been years. Do you think it is still possible?? Thank you, DeeDee
I ordered some Collagen. The label states as follows:
Marine collagen type 1&3 1000mg, Hyaluronic Acid 200mg/serving; Vitamin C, Zinc, Copper for Immune System; E, B2, Iodine. Hydrolyzed peptides supplement. Dose: 2 capsules daily.
I take Levothyroxine 100mcg daily for Hashimoto's. Do you think the fact the collagen contains Iodine is a problem for me? Each capsules contains 100mcg of Iodine, so a total of 200 mcg if 2 capsules are taken.
Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.
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It sounds like your husband got the worst possible effects of Cipro and I am sorry to hear that. On the positive side, the curcumin is very good to take for multiple myeloma(MM)! For further information on the roll and effects of curcumin with MM, here is a link to a blog that I think you and your husband may find quite useful:
https://margaret.healthblogs.org/
The originator of that blog is Margaret who is a very nice lady and has had MM for a long time and has managed to keep it at bay with curcumin and a few other supplements, curcumin is the main component of her regimen. I used to go to her blog many years ago, so I doubt she will remember me, but I would definitely recommend that the both of you stop in and see how she has kept MM at more a less a stand still for so many years! Back to your husband's pain issues. The collagen may help, but it takes time as my friend found out. I can suggest a couple of noninvasive topical pain relievers to help your husband until the collagen does whatever it is going to do. The first one is an old standby here on EC and that is magnesium chloride oil or mag oil (MO) as it is commonly referred to. MO can relieve some joint pain and reduce inflammation and swelling such as a twisted ankle might have as well as help to relax tense muscles especially in the neck and shoulder areas. It can also rapidly relieve muscle cramps in the legs, feet, arms and hands. Here is a link to an inexpensive ($10) MO product that will be plenty for your husband to test and use for quite awhile.
The other product I would suggest is a homeopathic blend product and being a homeopathic product is much less likely to have adverse effects. This product I would describe as having slightly more pain relieving effect than MO, but does not have as broad effects as MO, but if pain relief is the main issue then this one may be a good choice, but either one should be helpful. https://www.swansonvitamins.com/natrabio-the-arnica-rub-4-fl-oz-cream
Sherri, please comeback and keep us updated on how your husband does with all of it as this information will be quite useful for the members of EC! Art
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