Olive Oil and Lemon Juice
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Has anybody actually had any success with dissolving large gallstones using herbs? And how much of anything does one need to take for it to be effective. The Chanca Piedra (for instance) suggests just one 500mg capsule per day.
I did do one gb/liver flush a few weeks' ago and it was fine and the discomfort was better for a little while. However, I keep being advised not to attempt any flushes with such a large stone. Surgery would seem to be my only option.... which is sad when I have put so much effort into trying to keep the gb.
I'd appreciate any help.
I had tons of gallstones.. I have no idea which kind they were but they were very painful.. I first did the apple cidar vinegar and apple juice to loosen them up and then drank a few cups of the chanca piedra tea most days.. I expelled some huge stones .. I couldn't believe how big they were.. I expelled lots of broken up stones..and small stones.. all kinds of stones and some other weird stuff lol...Anyway; its been three months and my pain as of today is either a one or not here at all.... I don't know if calcified stones pass through but at that point I didn't care. I was willing to take the chance and get these painful stones out...
Chanca Piedra
Peppermint
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Apple Cider Vinegar
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Cinnamon, Cloves, Ginger, Apple Juice
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Castor Oil Packs, Pineapple Juice and Gallbladder Flushes
Alfalfa
But again, I think keeping those bile ducts relaxed is very important to avoid a stone getting stuck which can be more concerning and problematic. Oh, and of course a 2-3 Tbsp ACV in a cup of warm apple juice. Also soothing can be one of those rice/corn microwave bags and place it over your gallbladder/liver. Now, I'm not having a full mind blowing attack of pain (I know this too well) but something wasn't right. Being prepared, I'm glad I bought the Collinsonia Root, great brand (initials SP)
Chanca Piedra
I will be interested to hear any other replies! Do you expel the stones during a gall bladder flush or are yours just passing with the Apple Cider Vinegar and Chanca piedra?
I used Apple Cider Vinegar daily for years for my digestion but they never got stones out.
I got many stones over the course of a few months during flushes. Now whenever I have a slight gall bladder twinge, I schedule another flush (about every 6 months.) Recently I was surprised to see a couple of the larger type stones. I too wondered, are these newly formed or old? I think I have read that once you empty the gall bladder of stones, stones from the liver can travel in to the gall bladder. Maybe it takes a while to get all of them from the liver and the gall bladder? But I have also wondered if I am just still making stones.
~Mama to Many~
Chanca Piedra
No I only used the apple cidar vinegar and the tea.. I did not do any flushes at all. I also do lemons and water.... I still have some discomfort but not pain like I had.. funny you should say liver because at times I feel like I see liver stones too...thanks.
Chanca Piedra
One of the side effects of low protein diet is the weak liver, so many vegetarians or vegans take Raw Bovine or Calf Liver Tablets. They are sold in most health food stores and have long been a favorite in those seeking strength or longevity as they are one of the superfoods. You must also consider the amino acid Ornithine; it helps me so much in the liver dept. Dr Balk says it is very important for metabolizing lipids in the liver.
A supplement of Choline/Inositol would also help.
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Radishes
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I've had recurring Gallstones for about 5 years and have tried all the home remedies repeatedly. The only thing that seemed to work was the standard flush everybody recommends, but it's time consuming and uncomfortable. I read somewhere that Radish Juice had an affect on disolving bile so I bought a couple of bags of Radishes and ate them. The pain has lessened considerably and I can sit more comfortably and breathe deeply again for the first time in quite awhile. I don't know if eating Radishes will completely clear out the stones but I'm delighted with the improvement so far. Hope this helps others. Good Luck.
I have seen Holy Basil mentioned in treating kidney stones. And some herbs will treat both. It seems worth a try since you have it in your garden!
Herbalist Philip Fritchie lists Butcher's Broom and Cascara Sagrada as being lithotriptic (stone dissolving) specifically for gallstones.
Cascara Sagrada can have quite the laxative effect, though. When I have taken it, I have taken it with ginger and and fennel. But still, start small with this herb.
Butcher's Broom I have taken alone for varicose veins and it never gave me any trouble.
~Mama to Many~
Chanca Piedra
This is excellent !!!
also...A-F betafood, by standard process is amazing for gallbladder health, sold mostly through chiro and N.D.s, helps digestion immensely, I have used it daily since 2010. Amazon sells it, read reviews, kinda spendy
Apple Cider Vinegar, Aloe Vera
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Apples
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WARNING!
Olive Oil and Lemon Juice
Epsom Salt
Before you begin, you may want to see if your library has The Liver and Gallbladder Miracle Cleanse by Andreas Moritz. He goes into great detail about what to expect and there is a Frequently Asked Questions section in the back.
Here is what he says about the composition of epsom salts:
Epsom salts (magnesium sulfate) can be found in mountain regions and is contained in sea salts. It is also manufactured synthetically by combining natural minerals.
Good luck! Bess
Epsom Salt
I personally drink BHUMIAMALAKI (phyllanthus amarus) 1/2 tsp at night before bed in a few ozs of hot water for a bitter tea. This is on recommendation from a certified ayurvedic practitioner I hired who studied in India. I had verified stones and polyps via ultrasound. After 1 year of dosing this medicine (and changing diet, and a few epsom salt cleanses), I shrank all my polyps be several millimeters and my pain is nill. I also passed many stones in my stool.
BHUMIAMALAKI can be AN ALLERGEN TO SOME> I became allergic after a year of use and had to switch to Chanca Piedra wildharvested herb to make stonebreaker tea daily.
Also on recommendation of my CAP, castor oil packs on the gal area (a tbsp on a paper towel, with a sandwhich bag taped over it to you skin using surgical tape)
If one insists on the epsom salt cleanse, this is how hulda clark recommends it:
https://drclarkstore.com/pages/liver-gallbladder-cleanse-instructions
If it were me, I would read the whole page, and follow the instructions very carefully, or I could cause the stones to get backed up in your bilial ducts, cause more pain, or other complications, and have to start over.
Multiple Remedies
The following statement is from the Mayo Clinic:
"The most common type of gallstone, called a cholesterol gallstone, often appears yellow in color. These gallstones are composed mainly of undissolved cholesterol, but may contain other components. Pigment gallstones. These dark brown or black stones form when your bile contains too much bilirubin."
Chanca Piedra
I'm in the same boat as you. Scanned proof of a 2.5 cm stone in my gall bladder. I have been searching for ways to remove it and have also been advise not to do a flush, as the stone is too big. I'm now basically vegan and taking liberal amounts of apple cider vinegar and apple juice. also been told fragrant herbs in cooking is good along with tea's such as peppermint and dandelion. My search about chanca piedra brought me here. I am very interested to hear your experience and others also.
Juice Therapy
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- Tamarind Juice - Dissolves stones
- Lemon Juice - softens stones
- Apple Juice - softens stones
- Carrot Juice - Mineral Supplier, Immunity Builder and Liver cleanser and gall bladder cleanser.
- Tender Coconut Water - Diurectic
- Phylanthus Niruri(Stone Breaker) Tea - to dissolve stones.
to make stonebreaker tea. Boil glass of water, when the water boils stop the heat and add half tsp of phylanthus niruri powder and set it aside for 10 mins. after 10 mins filter and drink it. Drink the tea on alternate days (as a minimal dose).
Very Important info about Juices. Juices should be home made and fresh not the store bought, store bought juices are just water with sugar and colors. Alternate each juice everyother day.
Day 1. Tamarind Juice
Day 2. Carrot Juice
Day 3. Apple Juice
Day 4. Lemon Juice (can be taken daily also)
Day 5. Tamaring Juice and so on
Apples
Apples
Chanca Piedra
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Apple Cider Vinegar
And it all started to go away very quickly, and I could actually feel the stones moving through the ducts and out!
Then about a week ago I heard about Apple Juice, and I wanted to do as much as I could to disolve the gallstones as quickly as possible so I tried it - but it upset my stomach and gave me diarrhea so bad that I had to stop. (My mother told me it did the same thing when I was a baby, so she wasn't surprised. ) And the nausea started to go away immediately after stopping it.
Then I noticed a few days ago that I was having horrible Heat Intolerance in 80 degree weather and other symptoms of low electrolytes- dizziness, confusion, faitigue- and I was having symptoms of Malabsorbsion from the very beginning- so I started taking apple cider vinegar to replenish my electrolytes and liquide multi-vitamines to help my body absorb them better. But I think the apple cider vinegar has made my nausea come back just as strong as before!
When I stopped the apple juice, the nausea went away. Now that I'm taking the apple cider vinegar it's come back, and I can barely eat anything!
I feel much better when I take it, and I haven't had any painful or uncomfortable feelings in my gallbladder area for two days now. I feel almost completely normal except for the upset stomach, and there is now a burning/clawing sensation going on in my stomach along with it that I think is a symptom of high stomach acid caused by the apple cider vinegar.
I'm worried that if I stop the apple cider vinegar I will run low on electrolytes again, and since I'm still not digesting my food all the way so I know that is still a possiblity.
Is there anything I can take with the apple cider vinegar to stop the nausea? I've heard about taking baking soda with it. Does that work?
Milk Thistle, Dandelion
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Mustard
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Milk Thistle, Dandelion, Magnesium
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Dandelion root contains more Lecithin than even soy products and also acts as a mild diuretic, but unlike other diuretics, it does not deplete the body of potassium due to the high amount of it found in the plant. Dandelion also contains loads of trace elements and should go a long way in dissolving gallstones as well as improving and increasing bile flow through the gallbladder.
Milk Thistle is also very good for this although to my knowledge, does not contain Lecithin. It reduces cholesterol in bile as well as other beneficial effects on liver/gallbladder health though.
About all this "flush" business that is so obviously fake that it bears mentioning. To say that there are over 2000 stones in your liver and gallbladder is ridiculous considering the size of these organs and appears even more ridiculous when people say this continues to happen over years of doing these flushes. What people should be doing is changing their diets and taking supplements to deal with these things. It's amazing to me that everyone that does this flush seems to report hundreds and thousands of "stones" even though an ultrasound may only show one or two small ones. Whether these flushes actually work or not is debateable since people seem to want to exaggerate the effectiveness. If they worked, there would be nothing to exaggerate and if they really do work, it's a tragedy that those pushing it on other people have to make things up to make it look better than it is when there is no need. It can't possibly be good for someone long term to continue to do this to their bodies.
To anyone wanting to dissolve and/or prevent gallstones, cut back a little on the fatty stuff you eat and do some research on supplements. Dandelion Root, Magnesium, Milk Thistle and even a daily multivitamin is a good place to start. Make a habit of having a glass or two of apple juice a day as the Pectin in apples and apple juice will soften the stones, exercise a little and watch what you eat to a point. If you really want to change, you can do it. If you're looking for an easy way out where you can have your cake and eat it too, you'll fail everytime. Supplements alone won't fix this problem and neither will 100 flushes. You have to make lifestyle changes as well and you have to stick with them.
However, things like constantly checking your pH and constantly monitoring pH of water you drink and all this stuff seems to be a pretty paranoid and stressful kind of life, constantly worrying and all. I don't think I'd ever go that far and eating enough fruits and vegetables should keep you balanced just fine.
No, I never had an ultrasound for gallstones.. I try and stay away from western medicine. I did have really bad pain exactly where the gallbladder is.. I checked a dozen sites about it.. plus since I expelled them they looked exactly like stones so I am assuming they are stones lol.. some were huge.. anyway; what I did was put half glass of apple juice in a glass and then two tablespoons of apple cidar vinegar. braggs organic and I drank it.. maybe once a day..then I drank a few glasses of chanca piedra tea (stone breaker tea) but not every day.. maybe every two days.. well I noticed that the stones were coming out in the toilet with a BM.. as time went on and it was a few months the pain subsided more and more.. I didn't do the whole flush because I was afraid so this is what I did. it takes longer but its so worth it.. sometimes I also drink lemons in water...sometimes I never even measured that apple juice . I just do things by intuiton.
Figs
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BHT, Magnesium, and Clean Water
Pure original Ingredients is the brand, magnesium chloride hexahydrate crystals.
My water system is a refurbished single filter R/O system. At the time of purchase it was 200.00 shipped. Water drop sells their other systems refurbished on amazon for cheap. Below is the link to the system I bought. Go to their amazon store and look at their refurbs.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08Z3QFRY3/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Apple Cider Vinegar
Chanca Piedra
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Question please? I have been expelling large and small gallstones for about a year.. I used the apple cider vinegar and apple juice and chanca piedra tea and some healing tea.. I feel like there were hundreds of stones .. only thing I'm wondering so many and so long coming out does my body just keep making them?? Thank you if anyone knows??
Chanca Piedra
Thank you for the recommendations.. I am eating a lot of raw foods and its helping so I cant do chicken livers.. I am trying to always detox and it helps but it seems to be taking awhile or my body keeps making the stones.. the pain is almost gone now but I do feel stones at times.
I will do the MT as I am already doing the turmeric.. then I read turmeric causes stones. so much confusion.I will try the cough drops.. sounds easy enough.
Next I will work on the liver.. as far as fungus not sure since I eat organic raw fruits and veggies.. but I will def. check into it.
Thank you so much
Chanca Piedra
Thanks for the info.. I will look into the bio identical hormones..
I do exercise as much as I can...sleeping is on and off and I do tai chi and meditate for stress but yes I do have stress..
Chanca Piedra
Radishes
It would be wise to have some diagnostics done by a pysician as Hepeaitus is also likely.
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