H1N1 Flu Treatment

I'd give Aspirin a yea for Swine Flu/Flu. Altho, I never got tested, so it could've been a really bad cold, flu or swine flu.

40 yr old dude here. I started feeling bad on Thursday. The next day I was extremely tired, congested head, sore throat. I could barely get out of bed. Not much of an appetite. I tried D3, Zinc Lozenges, Jean's Tomato Tea, Gargled with Cayenne water, Hydrogen in ears... nothing seemed to work. (I didn't overdo these solutions, I did them once or twice a day depending on the remedy).

By Day 3, Saturday I was still out of it. I had muscle aches (and a congested ear) but honestly I've had worse body aches from previous flus so I still wasn't certain what I had. It was Day 4, when I got a fever of 100.2 that I suspected I had the flu vs. a cold. (I also read that nowadays all flus are pretty much the swine flu. I think it's really spreading fast.) That's when I tried the Aspirin cure. I did it again the next day because the fever came back in 24 hrs time. By Day 6 I felt better. No fever. But still congested head. More energy tho. And Day 7, I definitely feel stronger. Still a little congested but stronger. Able to get things done, concentrate.

Now I didn't start to take Aspirin until Day 4/5, so one could say my flu/cold ran its course and of course by Day 7 I would feel better. But that Fever was making me feel miserable so I said what do I have to lose. Plus I read that one doesn't usually have fevers during colds and I found it weird I got a fever AFTER having symptoms for 3 days. I would try the Aspirin cure again.

here's what I took:
Day 4: I took 1 325mg Aspirin, crushed in half cup of water, every hour... for 3 hrs.

Day 5: I took 1 325mg Aspirin, crushed in half cup of water, every hour... for 4 hrs.

I love this site by the way.

I dissolved 500 mg aspirin in water and gave her one Vitamin C tablet with instructions to do the same every hour until she fell asleep. She slept well and yesterday all symptoms were dramatically improved and had no fever. She took aspirin/vitamin C remedy a couple times today and went back to school AFTER ONLY TWO DAYS !!!!

Regardless of naysayers, if you or someone you love (over 12 yrs old) has the FLU by all means try this remedy! I am totally convinced and feel grateful to have this knowledge in case my wife or I come down with symptoms.

People who goes to talk shows are likely have vested financial interests, I DON'T go to any talk shows and rather tell the truth under the radar or scrutiny of the pharma industry and I think this is the best approach for me. For the unbelievers, I have plenty of people here who can vouch that the aspirin did work and it's synergistic with the vitamin C. It wasn't easy finding the cure, but once it's found I hope people will find some benefit, especially the fact that vaccinations are dangerous with highly dangerous bacteria and viruses, and they are live bacteria and viruses. Hence, to neutralize these, I only expect at least just taking ASPIRIN (or lysine) hourly for only 4 times in one day. It's the bare minimum so that the vaccination should it be mandatory there is A WAY AROUND this problem. The use of digestive enzyme works too, but it is not nearly as dramatic as lysine or aspirin. Perhaps I have to look into this further with dose/frequency issue.

Thank you for your support!

Ted

I don't know Ted and I haven't had flu (Thank God), but I just thought to make this observation.

I know a person that got the flu a week before I did and she didn't do the aspirin treatment and now she has developed pneomonia for the second time in two weeks. She has been under a doctors care from the beginning.

Thanks Ted.

One of the remedies I have tested in the past against pneumonic plague, which affects more on the respiratory illness, that has the best results overall is the use of a digestive enzyme, capsule form, having bromelain, pancreatic enzyme, papain, papaya extract, for example, works best overall compared to the hydrochloric acid remedy.

However, I have observed when a person has this sort of condition, both the digestive enzyme AND hydrochloric acid is low in the body, as noticed by general weakness of the condition.

When compared side by side, I observed that the digestive enzyme (in capsule form, never in tablet form), works about twice to four times better than the hydrochloric acid. However, hydrochloric acid is valuable against this sort of illness and helps if it is added to the remedy. It is especially important when digestive enzyme is not available if you happened to be living in an isolated village in the rural area, a hydrochloric acid maybe easier to obtain.

However, the digestive enzyme capsules, which is often taken a minimum from 3 to 8 times a day, works much better, if it was possible to obtain them. This results in reduction in mucus of about 80% the first day. The other remedy I have posted was the chinese Ganmaoling tablets. Although I liked the old form, which was uncoated with sugar, the new one works a lot less better. To make it work, the remedy requires that a person has to chew on it, or grind them to a powder and dissolve to work more effective. The Hydrochloric acid remedy against the pneumonic plague (ukraine - although sometimes referred to as hemorrhagic flu) works by increasing the energy level, the dose I have used is between 2 drops to 8 drops, with average dose that I have used is about 3 or 4 drops, of Hydrochloric acid 35% concentrated, any grade are suitable and are often more obtainable, at least in Asia, then the digestive enzymes. The dose, is taken at roughly 50 cc, every 30 minutes, which will raise the body's immune system, and energy level within less then two minutes.

However, as mentioned previously, the best one is a digestive enzyme overall, followed by Ganmaoling tablets, a chinese herbal remedy against teh cold, but works the best in reducing the mucus associated with flooding of the lungs. The remedy for Ganmaoling, is preferably taken at 8 tablets every 2 hours is a dose I am a bit more happier, and taken throughout the entire day of at least 16 hours. The minimum dose, but less effective is 4 tablets taken every 3 hours for four times. A fever is best controlled by lysine, taken hourly for a day or so.

However, for a severe condition where the person already had damaged lungs, from this second strain. Even though the reported pneumonic plague is in Ukraine, a similar kind has already happened in Bangkok, about 1-2 months ago, and doctors will identify (or may) as the H1N1 swine also. However, there IS a difference, even though standard tests denies that, the symptoms are noticeably very different from the usual swine flu, it may have been the synergism with another bacteria/virus found in hospital that quickly eats up the lungs within a few days after the infection. A typical home swine flu won't eat the lungs within few days as the ones I have found via hospital infections that eats up about 1/2 of the lungs in a few days, since i have seen x rays of that. When this happens, to restore this severe damage, a lysine supplements is taken for almost 24 hours (possibly skipped during sleep hours, and taking larger dose instead), and taken for at least two weeks to reverse this peculiar conditon. It should be noted that the full name of a typical lysine, is lysine hydrochloride, which has the hydrochloric, as the Korean research has found, also works even if a hydrochloric acid were not obtainable, a lysine hydrochloride would do. As to betaine, which is another from of hydrochloride, can be used too, so we really don't need to get hydrochloric acid and it works too, but not as good a the lysine one.

The lysine is effective in reducing fever, but in severe pneumonic flu, it takes about hourly doses, 1000 mg for about 6 hours to kick in, while the Tamiflu simply doesn't work at all, and the price is too expensive, and is as useless.

The initial dose for a severe from of pneumonic flu is that the initial dose is taken at 4000 mg, of lysine followed by an hourly dose of 1000 mg.

The dose is calculated on a typical male, 150 pound.

So people, with different weights is calculated on that basis.

As for me, the newer strain affects the respiratory system very fast, and if there is excessive mucus, which leads to the flooding of the lungs (i prefer this doesn't happen) then IT IS MOST IMPORTANT TO GET THE DIGESTIVE ENZYME!

Lysine is important against fever, so the flu or bacteria DOES NOT ENTER THE BLOOD. When they do enter it attacks the immune system, and the high fever may cook the brain as in temperatures of 104 degree Fahrenheit. I prefer to deal with 103 rather than 104 before they go up.

As to other things mentioned about ozone water, acidic ozone water, they are too weak in practice. A typical one capful of 3% H2O2, or preferably two capful of 3% H2O2 in one liter of drinking water taken at 1/4 to 1/2 glass every 30 minutes for a total of 5-6 hours, may likely work a lot better, and may have a much higher kill rate. Whenever a hydrogen peroxide is used it works best whenever vitamin C is taken.

If the pneumonic flu isn't of hemorrhagic variety and all the other things were not obtainable, then a vitamin C and aspirin remedy is used for only one day and used hourly between 4 to 6 hours, but preferably at 50 minutes interval. I know there is a lot of nuances in the pneumonia cure, and flus in general. One of the atomizers I used to dry the lungs when a person does have pneumonia is the use of a 5% ammonium chloride solution in 5% potassium carbonate solution.

It kills the bacterium form and dries up the lungs. The method of use for me is not really to spray directly, but just spray in the room a couple of times and breathe in the mist. The lungs will clear up after a few minutes, so it works ok. The sea salt will also dry up flooding of the lungs, along with other remedies, the dose is 1/2 teaspoon for a typical 150 pound man, with normal blood pressure. If blood pressure is high, it's 1/4 teaspoon usually dissolved in a glass of water, and drank slowly. If a person who took the 1/4 teaspoon he takes in twice, but a 1/2 teaspoon is a glass of water is taken once, slowly of course, drinking them within 10 minutes if fine or even 20 minutes, if he believe there's too much water. The sea salt remedy to dry up the lungs is a one dose remedy but if it works and a person has no problem with blood pressure it maybe continued, but only once a day. In a severe lung damage pneumonic flu the lysine maintenance dose is continued, typically 1000-1200 mg three times a day for at least a month. One of the benefits of the lysine is it's ability to repair the lung tissue. Potassium is a common atomizer, along with ammonium chloride I used it as a contact spray when the mist is applied to kill remaining pneumonia in the lungs and is used whenever breathing is not too clear, but this remedy I used maybe three or four times a day.

From Barry W. Bittinger Sr

My life was saved by a mistake I made (concerning Garlic) Im now trying to inform you about that mistake

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I Know of the flu threat of many innocent fellow Americans you are now making an effort to defend against serious attacks of Diseases, Swine flu especially. I can help by suggesting something that has been very helpful to me and my family

This has been used before by other countries to defend against similar attacts of diseases.

I am aware of an emergency remedy to use against swine flu, also now known as H1N1,: I am speaking of GARLIC &/OR GARLIC OIL, also known as "Russian Penicillan." Garlic is readily available and can easily be obtained by most anyone.

I am a cancer survivor because of a mistake I made (with GARLIC). I was dying of cancer when I made the mistake that saved my life. My daughter, Barrie Lynn had strongly suggested that I take a clove of garlic a week to cleanse my blood. I mostly ignored anything about garlic until the cancerous growth in my right underarm lymph nodes turned into blood poison. But instead of eating a clove, I misunderstood what was a clove and mistakenly ate the whole bulb, I ATE THE WHOLE THING AT ONCE!, THE WHOLE BULB OF GARLIC! This mistake immediately changed my life expectancy from dying in only a matter of hours to still alive now some 16 yrs later. Read my story at www.earthclinic.com under Garlic Bulbs.

I now know and I now understand why garlic is so powerful against a disease or flu or sickness. Garlic alone has been used against an epidemic before in Russia. It is called "Russia Penicillin" because transports of garlic flown in to turn the tide of an epidemic.

Garlic is so powerful and effective because it can still work wonders (miraculously), not only as a whole food, but also when used as garlic oil - applied topically on the exterior of the body, especially on the feet.

I am writing you this message as an emergency safeguard that all people can use, even on an infant by way of drops of garlic oil on an infant's feet. It will save life harmlessly, painlessly, miraculously, and effectively.

My name is Barry W. Bittinger, SR. I am known as "Boone Doggie" by my friends who now call me "Doctor Garlic" because I tell everyone I can. And because of garlic alone several others have escaped death!

You may call my garlic Cry to help you "Boone Doggie Penicillin."

I am also aware of the power of these new diseases to reach anyone no matter what there status is, from presidents to the children - even the bum on the street, there is no distinction of nobility, we are all at risk, and many of us will die

As a last comment on this important letter I am sending to you. I am telling you that GARLIC CAN AND WILL STOP THE THREAT IMEDIATELY, even before the vacine arrives and is available Garlic can help You and will save you!

From Your concerned friend and fellow American.
Barry W, Bittinger Sr

My eight year old came down with cough, fever (103), body aches. Gave her aspirin yesterday starting with 325 mg at Noon followed by 1/2 gram of vitamin C (in juice hourly). Fever responded (99.4). Half an aspirin every two hrs (-/ 170 mg). Backed off on vitamin C at 8 due to gastro upset (which I was shooting for, she hadn't had a BM for two days). She had a small BM before dinner. But, threw up dinner-she was hungry, but tummy wasn't ready.

Last aspirin at bedtime with cough medicine. Slept fine.

This morning freaked out about the aspirin due to Reyes Syndrome. So Aspirin until noon wanted monitor for new symptoms. She was hot this morning with bloodshot eye. Gave prune/apple juice because gastro upset continued with flatuence but no BM. She had a sizable BM an hour or so later. She ate, singing.

Sorry so long, but despite my Reyes Syndrome freak out, the aspirin seems to be effective. Make sure to make them drink (at the top of the hr I give water and juice) so as to flush the system and keep the bowels open.

Hope this helpful.

Salicylates and Pandemic Influenza Mortality, 1918-1919 Pharmacology, Pathology, and Historic Evidence
Clinical Infectious Diseases 2009;49:000-000
Clinical Infectious Diseases 2009;49:000-000
Karen M. M.D.

The high case fatality rate especially among young adults during the 1918-1919 influenza pandemic is incompletely understood. Although late deaths showed bacterial pneumonia, early deaths exhibited extremely "wet," sometimes hemorrhagic lungs.

The hypothesis presented herein is that aspirin contributed to the incidence and severity of viral pathology, bacterial infection, and death, because physicians of the day were unaware that the regimens (8.0-31.2 g per day) produce levels associated with hyperventilation and pulmonary edema in 33% and 3% of recipients, respectively. Recently, pulmonary edema was found at autopsy in 46% of 26 salicylate intoxicated adults. Experimentally, salicylates increase lung fluid and protein levels and impair mucociliary clearance.

In 1918, the US Surgeon General, the US Navy, and the Journal of the American Medical Association recommended use of aspirin just before the October death spike. If these recommendations were followed, and if pulmonary edema occurred in 3% of persons, a significant proportion of the deaths may be attributable to aspirin.

Dr. Eisenstein's Comments:

This evidence from The British Medical Journal shows that antipyretics such as Tylenol, aspirin (Bufferin, Bayer, Excedrin), ibuprofen (Advil, Motrin, Nuprin), ketoprofen (Actron, Orudis), and naproxen (Aleve), should not be given for any type of flu and may be responsible for many of the deaths associated with the H1N1 Flu.

In 1918, the US Surgeon General, the US Navy, and the Journal of the American Medical Association recommended use of aspirin just before the October death spike. This recommendation may have been responsible for a significant proportion of the deaths.

My recommendations:

1. Vitamin D levels greater than 60ng/ml
2. No aspirin, Tylenol, Aleve etc. for fever
3. Lots of fluids and chicken soup
4. And "NO" Swine or Seasonal flu vaccines

I tried adding cayenne pepper to my coffee this morning- INSTANT RELIEF! It was delicious, too. Now I am sipping on noodle soup with lots of cayenne. It's very soothing. Will try other ideas thru out day. Will report again (won't be as long- lol).

I am so very grateful and touched by your mail in reply to my querry, you in fact have cleared many doubts through this elaborate mail. God bless you.

Higher temperature inhibits the virus rna from combining during the reproductive cycle which is why we get a fever.

Aspirin is responsible for more cases of pneumonia than doctors care to admit.

Why would anyone in their right mind fight our own body's mechanism for preventing disease - something that has evolved over many thousands of years to a state of perfection.

Most people are mineral & vitamin deficient, couple this with a serious lack of good gut bacteria and a westernised sugar diet and you have total immune disfunction.

If aspirin is required for other ailments such as angina, poor circulation etc - then cayenne pepper is more effective and is also a pain killer.

B3 or niacin is also effective, improves blood flow, dilates arteries, regulates cholesterol, helps clear arterial congestion, but does produce what is known as the niacin flush which is harmless flushing but has none of the liver damaging effects of statins.

aspirin is (or at least used to me) made from white willow bark and maybe this is why it helps???

Some Info on Pneumonic plague (hemmorhagic flu) closed meeting has been held in Ivano-Frankivsk, at which participants agreed that epidemic of the so-called "pneumonic plague" is being spread throughout Ukraine. But the problem is its form is unknown, it is ATYPICAL nobody knows how to treat it.

PNEUMONIC PLAGUE has an acute course than other forms, over and is accompanied by a very high mortality rate. The incubation period of primary pneumonic plague rarely exceeds more than 1-4 days. It begins, as a rule, suddenly - with shivering, fever, headache, myalgia, weakness, nausea. The symptoms of pneumonia - cough with phlegm, chest pain, shortness of breath - usually appear on the second day of the disease. Blood spitting, growing respiratory disorders, heart failure, respiratory failure, shock are being observed. In primary pneumonic plague phlegm usually is watery or mucinous, foamy, with blood or visibly bloody.

A secondary pneumonic plague occurs as interstitial pneumonia. Phlegm is scanty and more dense and viscous than in primary pulmonary plague. It is believed that in this regard, patients are less contagious.

As a reminder, yesterday, on October 28 flu epidemic in the Ternopil Region, which had appeared a week ago, mowed down nearly 10,000 of residents. Moreover - unknown virus has already killed seven people. Ministry of Health has confirmed 20 deaths from pneumonia in Ternopil, Ivano-Frankivsk and Lviv Regions.

I will update the hemorrhagic virus, but there isn't that sort of case in Thailand.

However, there are certain ones that did resemble bleeding which humic acid, lysine and magnesium chloride, 500 mg empty stomach did effectively stopped that. Perhaps it was or was not, but it had the symptoms but was not officially confirmed.

It should be noted that large doses of magnesium are antiviral. Vitamin C also.

If they are taken hourly, this should effectively stop them after 6 doses, but has to be given every 50 minutes not exceeding one hour for each dose, otherwise you just have to start counting again from 1.

I'm still taking it but only a couple of times a day just to keep virus standing down and make sure it doesn't come back.

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LOVE IT, LOVE IT, LOVE IT!!!!!!
THANKS TO YOU ALL HERE AT EARTH CLINIC,
GOD BLESS!!!!!
MANDI
Keswick Ontario Canada

Dr. Vinay Goyal is an MBBS, DRM, DNB (Intensivist and Thyroid specialist) having clinical experience of over 20 years. He has worked in institutions like Hinduja Hospital, Bombay Hospital, SaifeeHospital, Tata Memorial etc. Presently, he is heading our Nuclear Medicine Department and Thyroid clinic at Riddhivinayak Cardiac and Critical Centre, Malad (W).

The following message given by him, I feel makes a lot of sense and is important for all to know

The only portals of entry are the nostrils and mouth/throat. In a global epidemic of this nature, it's almost impossible to avoid coming into contact with H1N1 in spite of all precautions. Contact with H1N1 is not so much of a problem as proliferation is.

While you are still healthy and not showing any symptoms of H1N1 infection, in order to prevent proliferation, aggravation of symptoms and development of secondary infections, some very simple steps, not fully highlighted in most official communications, can be practiced (instead of focusing on how to stock N95 or Tamiflu):

1. Frequent hand-washing (well highlighted in all official communications).

2. "Hands-off-the-face" approach. Resist all temptations to touch any part of face (unless you want to eat, bathe or slap).

3. *Gargle twice a day with warm salt water (use Listerine if you don't trust salt). *H1N1 takes 2-3 days after initial infection in the throat/ nasal cavity to proliferate and show characteristic symptoms. Simple gargling prevents proliferation. In a way, gargling with salt water has the same effect on a healthy individual that Tamiflu has on an infected one. Don't underestimate this simple, inexpensive and powerful preventative method.

4. Similar to 3 above, *clean your nostrils at least once every day with warm salt water . *Not everybody may be good at Jala Neti or Sutra Neti (very good Yoga asanas to clean nasal cavities), but *blowing the nose hard once a day and swabbing both nostrils with cotton buds dipped in warm salt water is very effective in bringing down viral population.*

Neti pots and sinus rinse kits are available at the drug store and relatively inexpensive - under $15.

5. *Boost your natural immunity with foods that are rich in Vitamin C (Amla and other citrus fruits). *If you have to supplement with Vitamin C tablets, make sure that it also has Zinc to boost absorption.

6. *Drink as much of warm liquids (tea, coffee, etc) as you can. *Drinking warm liquids has the same effect as gargling, but in the reverse direction. They wash off proliferating viruses from the throat into the stomach where they cannot survive, proliferate or do any harm.

Allergy medicine didn't help. Although the drainage was like allergies. I couldn't sleep at night because there was so much drainage; I would have to cough to clear my throat and then wake up.

In misery and desperation I tried the aspirin and it helped. I used a brand of powered aspirin here and made a concoction with powered vitamin c.

The really weird thing is this. I had preeclampsia with both of my pregnancies. The reaction I had with this flu was exactly like my preeclampsia. And aspirin is used with preeclampsia.

My theory is that what ever immune or other physical reaction that women have with pre-eclampsia; this swine flu is the same type of reaction.

Taking 2 grams of l-lysine and 2 grams of vitamin C 4 times a day will usually knock most viral infections quickly for an adult. However the vitamin C gets used better if taken 1 gram every hour while awake, instead of being excreted in bright yellow urine. I would give the 75 lb. child l gram of both instead of 2. Since the immune system apparently goes into high gear & functions better, I would probably take 1 gram of each myself to prevent & step up to 2 grams of each if any signs of flu, cold or other virus starts.

Against inflammation is a Russin receipe: two garlic bits smashed, put them to luke water in the glas, (two desilitres). Let them be there two hours. Filter. Drink in every eight hours the same kind made hit. Y must take the cures, six no less. The garlic kills the viruses, but if the treatment success lasts less than 48 hours, otherwise it is in vain.

Age l3 to adults: 2000mgm (2Grams) L-lysine 4 times a day
Vitamin C l000mgm (l gram) every hour while awake
Do not exceed l0 grams per day orally (GI irritation)

The reason for taking Vit. C more often is so that you use more of it instead of having a very yellow urine from excreting a lot of the vitamin C through the kidneys.

For younger children follow Dr. Schultz instruction which should be posted on EC - The adult dose is figured for average 150 lb. person He likes to figure childrens' doses by weight because there is a lot of variation in their sizes & weights. I would probably keep it on hand, but if you want to play ultra safe, you might want to take 1 gram of both Vit. C & L-lysine 4 times a day and move up to the higher dosage if people around you are being afflicted with the flu.

For those who have MMS on hand, the dosage for this is 2 drops per 25 lbs. of weight for all ages, but I have read somewhere that obese people should take more. I would be cautious about taking more than 20 drops

For colloidal silver, I have no personal knowledlge of this but it is said to kill most pathogens. The bottle it comes in should give you the adult dosage and you can figure the dosage by weight for children.

For those who find math daunting: Take the l50 lb. weight assumed in the adult dose. Put childs' weight over the 150 lb. You now have a fraction to reduce to lowest form. Example 75 lbs/150 lbs = l/2 of adult dose or 25 lb/150 lbs = 1/6 of adult dose.

Rena, I don't have the answer to your question, but if you read on the flu remedies section of EC, as I did, you just may come to the same conclusion that I did. Strange that this genetically engineered flu comes at a time when flu season should have already been gone, but when you look at the dates of the post in this section, it suddenly hits you that it looks like a lot of EC'ers were still having the flu long after the season ended, and good old remedies posted on EC was handling the situation. Good old EC remedies just might be knocking out some of those genetically inserted segments of the different flus and converting them into something much less harmful.

I also urge all EC readers to not forget about Bill's inhalation of H202 or good old turmeric which seems to have broad spectrum actions. Just type "turmeric research" in your search window and enjoy what you find to read on it. Really amazing when you find what these little old cooking herbs and spices do! So, everybody, get the MSG & aspartame out of your foods and start cooking with healthful ways to flavor your foods.

Last but not least, if you don't already know what sugar does to your immune system, research this also and cut out the sweets until the flu thing is over at least. It seems that sugar knocks out your phagocytes (white blood cells that attack pathogens). We need to keep these good guys in a healthy state to fight off all infections, whether viral, bacterial or whatever they might be.

I also can't disregard the conclusion that Natural Solutions Foundation (http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/) came to in their latest alert, You might want to go there to read more.