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Posted by Livercursexlm (St John's, Newfoundland, Canada) on 11/13/2012
Ted/Bill or anyone knowledgeable, If one is taking Salvia for hep B, is it advisable at the same time to be drinking chanca piedra tea? thanks in advance.
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Posted by Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 11/17/2012
Hi Livercursexlm... Salvia is a much used Chinese herb which is a strong anti-viral. I see no reason why you shouldn't use chanca piedra with salvia, since several people attest to its efficacy when used together with chanca piedra against Hep B.
From the EC archives:
Max from Commerce Township, Michigan replies: "Hi, I just converted Hbsag positive to negative. I could not believe it. My viral load was low. But my doctor said the same thing: you cannot do anything with it, just monitor. But I told him that I am going to fight. And I did. I experimented with both chanca piedra and salvia/ligustrum. When I drunk chanca piedra, my viral load went down to undetectable. But I stopped taking it, because I did not know how long I should take. After some time, my results went up a little bit, then I started taking salvia/ligustrum. And yesterday I saw my doctor who told me that my Hbsag is negative. He did not ask me what I am taking, but said that keep doing whatever I am doing. I also started taking Quercenol (a mix of vitamins, minerals and milk thistle). I am still taking salvia and quercenol hoping that I will become immune and my Hbsab will become positive. But salvia can be taken for 3 months and later you need to take a break.
Chanca piedra is better when you make a strong tea."
Source: https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/hepatitis-b.html
There are also other examples of people using salvia with chanca piedra on the above page link.
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Posted by Henry (South Africa) on 07/03/2015
Where can I get salvia in south africa or online..
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Posted by Max (Commerce Township, Michigan) on 11/12/2012
This question is for Bill. Please answer my quetion. I tried to find info on Internet, but Wikipedia was really confusing.
Can hep b virus come back after clearing HBsAg? My doctor was not sure about it or he wanted to scare me. My test results are:
HBsAg -negative, Hepatitis B Ab - 628.1, H Be Ab -positive, Hep Be Ag - negative, HBV DNA Qnt PCR
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Posted by Max (Commerce Township, Michigan) on 12/15/2012
Hi James. I do not know how long I had it. I found out when I was pregnant with my first child eight years ago. I never had any symptoms.
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Posted by Ricoh (Manila, Philippines) on 05/21/2015
Thank you very very much for your reply Bill, I really appreciate it. is there a Quiapo Market in Quezon City?? isn't it located in Quiapo Manila?? Anyway, I have another question. are there any supplements which contains most of the important vitamins and minerals that you mentioned like alpha liphoic, selenium etc etc coz it would be very expensive to buy those supplements one by one. how about usana supplements?? it says that it has some of the most important minerals like alpha lipoic and many more but its selenium is not food based just like the one you recommend.
Also I would like to ask if its safe for a person with hepatitis b to take fresh cayenne pepper because I've been taking it for more than a week now, 3x a day after meals because I've heard that it's good for the heart and will unclog blocked arteries. even though I don't have any symptoms of heart problems yet, I decided to take cayenne for prevention since almost all of my grandparents, uncle, relatives died from heart problems & stroke. if you have spare time please text me at my cel. no. 09106630286.
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Posted by Ashenafi (Mekelle, Tigray/ethiopia) on 10/24/2012
Please where to get chanca piedra in Ethiopia. I am hepetitis b positive 9 month back. Please your help.
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Posted by Christopher (Kiev, Ukraine) on 10/25/2012
Hi Ashenafi you get buy it online, from organic shops or ebay or amazon. Goodluck
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Posted by James In Bangkok (Bangkok, Bangkok Thailand) on 12/11/2012
★☆☆☆☆
Ive tried chanca piedra it did not work. Has anybody cleared this using other suppliments? I was going to try astragalus and beta 13 16 glucan. To those who managed to clear hbsag what did you use? Please let us know, thank you
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Posted by Oscar (Syracuse, New York) on 12/11/2012
Dear James in Bangcok, BHT [ butylated hydroxytoluene ] worked for me and for T. As reported at the BHT CURES group here:
Here are my HBV test results:
04/20/2012
HBV IU/mL: 260,230
HBV Copies/mL: 1,514,500
08/20/2012
HBV IU/mL: 204,890
HBV Copies/mL: 1,192,500
11/27/2012
HBV IU/mL: 28,970
HBV Copies/mL: 168,600
After the first three months, I had a 25% reduction between my first and second test, and a 86% reduction between my second and third test. 1,514,500 to 168,600 is amazing!Though, it's hard to say exactly what has contributed to this. In addition to BHT, I started taking Chanca Piedra and Monolaurin these last three months. I also cut out a lot of my workout supplements/super dosing of vitamins.
Chanca Piedra is said help prevent certain viruses from replicating and monolaurin is said to destroy lipid coated viruses, similar to BHT. I'm sure they've both had a big impact on my results. Hope that helps you, ...Oscar
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Posted by Oscar (Syracuse, New York) on 12/11/2012
A quick follow up to my last post : For me, Oscar, I used the BHT only for hepatitis B.
That detailed report is from T, and not me. Those additional supplements are his additions and not mine. I only used the BHT....Oscar
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Posted by James (Bangkok) on 12/13/2012
Hi oscar. Those test results do not show that the virus has cleared.
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Posted by Oscar (Syracuse, New York) on 12/13/2012
Dear James from Bangkok, Not yet. It took me over 2 years to get a NEGATIVE with a hepatitis B antibodies test. But, as you can see: T has greatly reduced his viral load count using one 350mg of BHT twice a day. These hepatitis viral infections are hard to treat effectively. The liver is a very large organ. It takes time to completely clear the liver of a viral infection. The BHT does NOT clear a living liver cell of the virus. What it does is prevent new liver cells from becoming infected. And every cell in a person`s liver is a new cell in about one year. That is how it works. If you know of a better treatment go for it....Oscar
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Posted by James (Bangkok) on 12/14/2012
Hi oscar. I do not know of any treatment wich is why I am looking everywhere I can. I simply said that those results do not show the virus has cleared. My results are hbvdna 140 and that is just with healthy eating and keeping vit d high and cholesterol low. I am looking to clear hbsag permanantly I have tried chanca piedra it did not work. If bht works then it is worth a try. Thank you
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Posted by Max (Commerce Township, Michigan) on 12/15/2012
Chanca piedra decreased my virus load, but SALVIA LINGUSTRUM cleared my virus. And beta glutan built my antibodies.
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Posted by Chika (Leeds, Uk) on 12/21/2012
Hi, I was tested Heb b. And it is said that that the virus has been in me for a long time. Really want to get it cured. Confused between which to try. Chanca Piedra or BHT. What is BHT? I have tried looking for it on the internet and getting no specific item. How can I get BHT.
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Posted by Oscar (Syracuse, New York) on 12/21/2012
Dear Chika from Leeds, UK, BHT is an acronym for BUTYLATED HYDROXYTOLUENE. It can be purchased from online retailers. There are many selling BHT. I buy mine from VRP, Vitamin Research Products. Hope that helps, ...Oscar
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Posted by Eyes (San Fran, Ca) on 12/25/2012
It works! How did you take it? How many times a day? Clear HBV by making a strong, very dark tea. Drink 1 coke can size amount 3 times a day. Do not skip a day. Do not sweeten with sugar only with organic honey.
Toss your tooth brush every 2 weeks for the next 3 months and emerge it in some sort of sanitizing solution daily.
If you are not single and your partner who has been vaccinated can still hold a small amount of the virus and transfer it back to you.
We all have parasites in our gut. They are also hold viruses. Do a parasite cleanse. Research parasite cleanse b4 hand if you are unfamiliar.
Eliminating parasites will also help reduce viral load.
Don't measure viral load right after parasite cleanse. They release toxins and viruses when they die but also they stop emitting counter immunity substances and in a few days after eliminating you feel stronger and more focused.
You also need to take a good vitamin with high levels of VD VE and selenium. Chanca Piedra will stop the virus from replicating and the vitamins and minerals help the liver defend it self from the viral burden.
Also, lighten other burdens of the liver. Eat less fried fatty foods. Eat more fruits and veggies.
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Posted by Christopher (Nigeria) on 10/09/2016
Please the best way to deal with those stubborn diseases is to kill the parasites, bacteria, viruses and worms causing them.
these are the list of plants to use:
- Mugwort
- Male Ferm Root
- Pumpkin Seed
- Black Walnut Hulls
- Cascara Sagrada
please, note that all these plant combined together will kill the most strongest parasites, bacteria, viruses and worms. please check details on each and how to combine them because some should be used in little doses. but when combine and taken in small doses for a short time you eliminate all and get better.
Chanca Piedra
Posted by Johnny (Pattaya, Pattaya Thailand) on 12/26/2012
Salvia lingustrum what is this? And bht can anyone prove they work? Post links to lab results
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Posted by James Bangkok (Bangkok, Bangkok Thailand) on 12/27/2012
I will try chanca piedra again. Where can I get it in bangkok? Also where can I get salvia lingistrum and bht in bangkok? Thanks
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Posted by Max (Commerce Township, Mi) on 12/28/2012
You can get salvia lingustrum online. It is a combination of 6 herbs.
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Posted by James (Bangkok, Thailand) on 01/17/2013
Oscar, first you said they were your test results. then you said they were some guy called t? how can you test negative in antibodies test when if you cured the virus you shoud test positive for hbsab and hbcab? I have started taking bht as I want to try whatever I can.
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Posted by Oscar (Syracuse, New York) on 01/19/2013
Dear James from Bangkok, I have tried many times to copy and paste what "T" for tablecorn has to say about the use of BHT to treat chronic hepatitis B. I will try again:
Here are my HBV test results:
04/20/2012
HBV IU/mL: 260, 230
HBV Copies/mL: 1, 514, 500
08/20/2012
HBV IU/mL: 204, 890
HBV Copies/mL: 1, 192, 500
11/27/2012
HBV IU/mL: 28, 970
HBV Copies/mL: 168, 600
After the first three months, I had a 25% reduction between my first and second test, and a 86% reduction between my second and third test. 1, 514, 500 to 168, 600 is amazing!
Though, it's hard to say exactly what has contributed to this. In addition to BHT, I started taking Chanca Piedra and Monolaurin these last three months. I also cut out a lot of my workout supplements/super dosing of vitamins.
Chanca Piedra is said help prevent certain viruses from replicating and monolaurin is said to destroy lipid coated viruses, similar to BHT. I'm sure they've both had a big impact on my results.
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Well that seems to have worked. Tablecorn had more to say about all this but when I try to copy and paste it all, it falls apart when I try and copy and paste his full statement.
For me: Though a hepatitis B carrier [about one third of all people are such carriers] at one time I no longer am. I was never chronically infected with hepatitis B. I WAS a carrier and no longer am. The hepatitis B cleared up along with hepatitis C for me with the BHT treatments. I now test NEGATIVE with the HBV antibodies test as far as I know according to what the VA has told me....Oscar
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Posted by James (Bangkok) on 05/03/2013
Re hepatitis b, if the virus cleared you would have surface antigen antibodies and core antibodies that persist for life.
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Posted by Naturalcure (Zurich, Switzerland) on 11/12/2013
Hello Oscar. Can you explain in brief details how you started your curing process and which herbal treatments and what was the duration of the treatment you applied before you finally reversed your HEPATITIS B status from positive to Negative.I recently tested positive for HEP B earlier this year (The doctor told me I'm a HEP B carrier). Please, I need your help in getting the reliable information so I can begin my healing process as soon as possible. Thanks in advance. Nolan from ZURICH, SWITZERLAN
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Posted by Oscar (Syracuse, New York) on 11/12/2013
Dear Naturalcures from Zurich, Switzerland. There is some understandable confusion here. I successfully treated my hepatitis C and B infections with the use of BHT only. I used a daily dose of about 250mg of BHT twice a day=500mg of BHT per day. It was one of our group`s members who also used the herb chianca piedra along with the BHT to treat his hepatitis B infection with this statement by him:
As reported by tablecorn here:
04/20/2012
HBV IU/mL: 260,230
HBV Copies/mL: 1 514,500
08/20/2012
HBV IU/mL: 204,890
HBV Copies/mL: 1,192,500
11/27/2012
HBV IU/mL: 28,970
HBV Copies/mL: 168,600
After the first three months, I had a 25% reduction between my first and second test, and a 86% reduction between my second and third test. 1,514,500 to 168, 600 is amazing!
Though, it's hard to say exactly what has contributed to this. In addition to BHT, I started taking Chanca Piedra and Monolaurin these last three months. I also cut out a lot of my workout supplements/super dosing of vitamins.
Chanca Piedra is said help prevent certain viruses from replicating and monolaurin is said to destroy lipid coated viruses, similar to BHT. I'm sure they've both had a big impact on my results.
For me, Oscar: It is not possible to say how long this took. I tested positive for hepatitis B and C in 1997 and again in 1998.
It was in 2006 that I was retested for both using the antibodies tests for those two different viral infections and came NEGATIVE for both using the antibodies tests. Again, I was using BHT [ butylated hydoxytoluene ] only for all those years. Now BHT has been proven to occur naturally first in certain phytoplankton in 2008 and a growing number of other plants since that time. Hope that helps....Oscar
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Posted by Marcin (Toronto, Canada) on 05/02/2015
Hi Ricoh,
Another herbal remedy for the gallstones is tulsi (holy basil). It lowers the level of uric acid in the blood, which is is a main culprit for the stones. It breaks down the stones and dulls the pain coming from them. I read that you have to take juice of the leaves with honey daily for 6 months. However, the fresh herb might be hard to get so you can try the powder.
You can also use Apple Cider Vinegar with sodium bicarbonate (pure baking powder) alkalizing remedy at the same time. It is described on this website.
Back to your original question, here are some ways to elevate the blood pressure:
*diet higher in salt
*drinking lots of fluids
*regular exercise to promote blood flow
*avoiding prolonged exposure to hot weather and water (baths)
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Posted by Ricoh (Manila, Philippines) on 05/05/2015
Thank you for the reply Marcin!! The reason why I chose chanca piedra is because I've heard that this plant has a higher chance of curing hepatitis B and that's what I'm trying to cure since I can find so many chanca piedra plant here in my place unlike tulsi which is hard to find. also I would like to ask how should I prepare a decoction/tea from a fresh chanca piedra plant, coz what I do is I take two fresh CP, roots included and boil it in 1.5liter water. am I doing it right and is it ok to boil it in the evening and drink it 3x the next day?? I also would like to know if I can take fresh CP and dry it for future consumption. what is the proper way to dry CP and does dried CP lose it's effectiveness in curing hepa B and dissolving stones?? if not, then how long can I store dried CP in an airtight bottle. is it ok to take other herbs alongside CP because I'm planning to take other herbs that will help to elevate my blood pressure. but first, I have to find some herbs which helps to elevate blood pressure.
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Posted by Victor (Nigeria) on 09/02/2017
Christopher from Nigeria where you a patient, have you been cured with the combination of herbs you listed or you are just recommending?
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Posted by Alex (Ottosdal, North West, South Africa) on 10/18/2012
Please I have hepatitis B and need your Chanca piedra here in South africa. where can I get one?
I want to get married and I do not want to pass this disease to my wife and kids, please what should I do? Can my girlfriend be vaccinated n our future kids be free? or I should wait and use the Chanca piedra in case I had one from your office before I get married?
I also want to inquire if there is vaccine for this disease.
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Posted by Waytoomuch (Modesto, Ca/ Usa) on 10/18/2012
Hi Alex! You have three good choices with Chanca Piedra, BHT, or a certain form of Vit. C, for clearing from the Hep B virus. It is easier to clear than Hep C. While there is an Hep B innoculation, ostensibly to prevent the disease, it has the clearly unwanted side-effect of potentially causing it, occaisionally, also. Of course, in our country, children are required to get this innoculation to attend high school. Crazy, huh?! Read up on your three good choices, and see where you can find one online, or locally. Helpfully, sometimes grocery stores carry BHT as an additive to preserve oils and prevent rancidity. --T.
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Posted by Shemustwin (Sheffield, Uk) on 06/11/2014
I will like to give some suggestions to those on this forum with Hep B. Please take to this advice and it will help you
1. Change your diet: Stop fried or raw red palm oil in food completely or once in a month. Stop fried vegetable or raw vegetable oil. Stop eating red cow meat, change to fish, chicken and pork. Eat steamed or boil vegetables. Avoid sugar, natural honey is better as sweetener. Eat plenty of fruits and fresh raw vegetables as well.
2. Change your lifestyle: If you do not know how to pray, change and start praying. Go to a true man of God for prayers.
3. Drinks: Drink plenty of pure water, some herbal herbal tea. Reduce coffee and non herbal tea, cow milk. No alcohol or too much sugar mineral.
4. Limit stress level. take plenty of rest relax.
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Posted by Floflo12 (Lagos) on 08/17/2012
Good day to everyone here. I was browsing through and came across this site, am from Nigeria and was diagnosed with Hepatitis late last year, after reading through this post, I want to know if the Chanca piedra can totally cure hepatitis b? if yes, please someone should state the procedures for me. I need an urgent reply. thanks.
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Posted by Sara (Detroit, Mi) on 08/17/2012
Best as a tea. Drink 8 oz 3 times a day. Make tea very strong. Do this every day for 3 months. Test results should be clear. If not, do another 3 months.
Take multi vitamin with selenium and vitamin D. Everyday. No drinking alcohol. Cut down on fatty foods, corn syrup and grains like rice. Eat more raw veggies.
There is a pubplished medical journal from the 1960's indicating its efficasy from the very doctor who discovered the surface antigens form HBv
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Posted by Lovely (Cebu City, Philippines) on 08/19/2012
Hi my name is lovely. I was diagnosed of HEPA B last april. I just want to ask if where I can buy CHANCA PIEDRA in cebu philippines. Hpoing that you can reply as soon as possible. thank you.
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Posted by Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 08/20/2012
Hi Lovely... Chanca Piedra is easy to find in the Cebu lowlands -- I know because I have just returned from Cebu visiting family and I was able to find Chanca Piedra easily for someone who had kidney stone problems. Here is a photo of it:
http://www.stuartxchange.com/SampaSampalukan.html
It is also called Seed-Under-Leaf which is a unique feature of this plant. Chanca Piedra is also anti-viral and is capable of greatly reducing the viral load for Hep B. See the research here:
http://rainforest-database.com/plants/chanca.htm
Chanca Piedra is also currently being researched for its beneficial effects against HIV AIDS and Cancer.
By the way, for all those interested, I've just been reading about the FDA's newest tactic and strategy against the sale of alternative nutrients and remedies on the internet. The FDA are now not even bothering to take offenders to court -- instead, they are simply dictating which alternative remedies and nutrients are to be banished from Google Searches. In obeisance to the FDA's dictat, Google Shopping has just blocked all search listings of vitamins and nutrients in the US. More to come -- just think Codex...
Read about it here:
http://www.naturalnews.com/036862_Google_Shopping_vitamins_censorship.html
http://www.naturalnews.com/036726_Google_Adwords_FDA_censorship.html
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Posted by Olamilekan (Lagos, Nigeria) on 09/01/2012
My name is lekan from Nigeria, pls can someone come to my recsue. Pls can someone tell me where I am suppose to get "Seed under leaf" in nigeria. You can email via oomoalhaja1(at)yahoo.com or or via pin:3237E07C. I dearly appreciate this website
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Posted by Rj (Los Angeles, California, USA) on 09/15/2012
Hi everyone, I joined the US Navy in January of this year, unfortunately, I was discharged three weeks later due to testing positive for Hepatitis B. I never had any symptoms whatsoever, one of my doctors said that I may have been born with it, the other one said that it may be from piercing (I had my eyebrow pierced in 2008). If so, will CHANCA PIEDRA TEA or OLIVE LEAF EXTRACT TEA completely clear the virus from my system? I really want to go back to the Navy but I still can't since I still have it.
My results from February 22:
Hep B Surf. An = Reactive
Hep BS Ab = Non-reactive; Count = < 3.0 L mIU/mL; Reference Range = 12 - 10,000
Here's my viral count as of June 6, 2012:
Hepatitis B = 170000000 IU/mL; Units = < 20
Hepatitis B = 989000000 copies/mL; Units = < 116
This was from the same test, although it confuses me, how is the other count different from the other? Please help.
We have an olive tree outside my house, and planning to make tea from it, I already started taking Chanca Piedra tea and capsules (since June), Salvia/Ligustrum (on my 6th bottle of 420 tabs) 9 tabs 3x/day (how long should I be on this?), I'm taking Extra Virgin Coconut Oil 1 tbsp. 3x/day, and taking high doses of Vitamin C. Also, I just started on Barley Grass powder, and liquid Chlorophyll (I read that it cleanses the blood). Anymore that I need to do? I never wanted to take pharmaceuticals because I've never believed in them. I never had any symptoms at all, and would have never found out about it had I not join the Navy. Also, I read somewhere, that if the person was born with the virus, the immune system doesn't recognize it as foreign, and thus does not attack the virus, if this is my case, what do I need to do? I desperately need of help, or suggestions. And please, PLEASE, no negative comments because I am willing to do EVERYTHING just to get back in the Navy.
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Posted by Jun (Philippines) on 11/02/2014
Greetings,
I need your help, I'm Reactive and non reactive of antihbe, can I take those medicine same at once everyday?
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Posted by Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 06/18/2012
Hi Kaye... I also live in the Philippines and grow my own Chanca piedra and use it for many reasons. I do this because its far better to use unprocessed herbs in the form of decoctions, teas or extracts than to use the heavily processed forms(with additives) sold in the health shops.
Chanca piedra grows widely in the lowlands of the Philippines -- so you can grow it for free. It is a weed that grows everywhere and it's Tagalog name is Sampa-sampalukan. Here are some pictures of it:
http://www.stuartxchange.com/SampaSampalukan.html
The unique identifying feature of this plant is that its flowers and seeds are found along and underneath the main petiole leaf stem -- that's why this plant is also called Seed-Under-Leaf.
See this link for all the many beneifits(incl. for Hep B) and the research on CP:
http://rainforest-database.com/plants/chanca.htm
You can use Chanca piedra against Hep B very effectively on its own. I've read one study where CP was given and in at least 50% of the cases -- the Hep B antigen disappeared completely within 20 days. They followed up on the participants after the research trial for nine mnths and the Hep B antigen did not reappear in any of the Hep B sufferers.
Hepatitis tends to destroy the liver over time. So another protocol -- The Berkson Triple-Anti-oxidant Liver Therapy -- is also useful to help to both defeat the Hep B(and Hep C) virus but, more importantly, this protocol helps -- by its massive anti-oxidant action -- to repair and recover the liver quickly. The Berkson Liver Protocol involves just supplementing Alpha Lipoic Acid, Milk Thistle and Selenium every day.
Also be aware that Chanca piedra has many other beneficial effects on the body including -- hypocalcemic(lowers blood calcium), hypolipidemic(lowers blood fat), hypoglycemic(lowers blood sugar), hypotensive(lowers BP).
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Posted by Mustfightp (Leeds, South Yorks) on 07/18/2012
I was a nurse 25 years, worked without gloves most of the time as we had no access to equipments in Africa then. I went on to study virology to Msc and on starting phD then, I found out I had trace of Hep b. Ever since I believed it has become chronic but still waiting to see Dr. Because I did a blood test two months ago and was stated ag present but they didnt specified. But I know is the Hep b still replicating. Ever since I was diagnosed as having hep B trace I didnt do much with my diet and lifestyle just carried on believing it will one day dissappear. I dont think it did.
My main aim now is to get rid of this Hep b in me by using CAM protocol. I have all the tablets in palce waiting to hear from you before I can start.
I know all the site effects of lamivudine, interferon, viread and others as such dont want to go through that route.
Please advise- will I feel terrible on my first doses? How do I take it accurately. thanks.
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Posted by Pedro Protacio (Cebu City, Phil.) on 11/11/2012
Please sir i need a contact to get a sample on chanca piedra.... i have a cousin really need this i need to plant.... this weed in my bot. garden.... pls plss plss have mercy.
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Posted by Jrx (Maasin, Philippines) on 01/08/2013
Instructions say, "Fill half a glass with the decoction and then add fresh fruit juice for one full glass and drink this 3 times a day outside mealtimes. Drink this every day." What is the meaning of outside mealtimes?
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Posted by Phany (Rwanda) on 09/16/2014
Hello oscar, I followed youth posts and happy to join your conversation, I have HPb virus. I am taking lamividin and tenofovil comprime and I am asking about those BHT that I am seeing on the post. Is it the same or not? thanks
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Posted by Oscar (Syracuse, New York) on 09/16/2014
Hello Phany [ Rwanda ].Lamividine and Tenofovil are two different antiviral drugs used to treat hepatitis B. They are NOT BHT [ butylated hydroxytoluene ]. The chemical structure of both of those antiviral drugs is NOT at all the same as BHT. I looked them up and the chemical structures of both are very different than BHT.
Now are they working for you or not ? Because if they are working perhaps you should continue this treatment. If they are not working BHT is worth a try. It [ BHT ] does work for many people infected with hepatitis B. But so do those drugs you are taking.
Go with what works for you....Oscar
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Posted by Ray (Cebu) on 12/06/2013
Hi, chancapiedra can be found anywhere in Cebu at no cost. You can make chancapiedra tea without a single peso taken from your money. Its up to you if you take another food supplement together, but for me chancapiedra alone is enough.
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Posted by Livercursexlm (St John's, Newfoundland Canada) on 06/03/2012
This is a question for Ted, but any forum members can answer. Ted, is it advisable to use Chanca Piedra as an enema to speed up the eradication of the Hepatitis B virus from the system? Have you any experience personally or anecdotally? I am considering such a step.
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Posted by Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 06/04/2012
Hi Livercursexlm... I am not quite sure why you want to take chanca piedra as an enema when research has already shown great efficacy against hep b by taking Chanca piedra orally in capsule, tea or decoction form.
Hep b infection occurs in the liver which infects the blood. This human in vivo study by Blumberg et al in 1988 shows the speed with which chanca piedra, when taken orally, can successfully kill the hep b virus:
EFFECT OF PHYLLANTHUS AMARUS ON CHRONIC CARRIERS OF HEPATITIS B VIRUS
In the above study 22 out 37 human chronic Hep B participants lost their Hep B surface antigen within 15-20 days. Some of the subjects were followed up for 9 months and in no case did the Hep B antigen return.
All they did was take Chanca piedra orally on a daily basis. Chanca piedra also has few, if any, side-effects.
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Posted by Livercursexlm (St John's, Newfoundland Canada) on 06/06/2012
Hi Bill, My idea of using Chanca as an enema is to simulate intravenous injection of same. Because the large intestine will filter out most of the unwanted impurities and deliver the the pure essence directly into the blood stream.
Would this not accelerate the therapeutic effects and render the body free of those nasty little buggers that harrass the liver?
I am taking Chanca orally, but I am seriously considering the enema route.
Yesterday I went for a HBV colony count test and and the antigen test as well. I hope to confound my doctor....
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Posted by Afolabi (Lagos, Nigeria) on 07/12/2013
Good day sir/ma, I could read right from here what u testify to be a good treatment of hep B... Please can you kindly send me the details and probably if possible an image of chanca piedra. I don't know where to get it in Nigeria... Thanks so much I appreciate.
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Posted by Kuje (Osun, Nigeria) on 08/30/2013
Pls Max, this silvia/ligustrium What is it, a plant or processed drug? I have been taking chanca piedra for a month now
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Posted by Leon (Fl) on 09/14/2013
Max, I will like to know where u got your herbs please. Thanks for your help
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Posted by Dea (New York) on 12/20/2013
Hello all! I have hbsag positive. My hbv DNA is 428 iu/ml. I am hbe negative. I am interested in starting chanca piedra, salvia or bht? Based on my blood work what can anyone suggest I do, and where I start?? Thank you
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Posted by Vasan (Hyderabad, Andhrapradesh, India) on 12/26/2011
Hi there, I am new to earth clinic and glad to meet you all. English is not my first language, but I hope you will get my point. I am a chronic hepatitisB healthy carrier, ( recently known accidentally). My lab reports are, Hbsag positive, hbsab negative, hbeag negative, hbeab positive, DNA quantification is 102567 copies per ml.. My doctor said that it is a chronic state and no medicaton is needed except monitoring every 6 months once.
Then my life seems dark and I was scared how my future is going to be.. Little later I started googling alternative things and got hope when I see earth clinic remedies. I read about chanca piedra and decided to use it. My question is that please, anyone tell me that my viral load is too high?? Is it posible to cure completely with chanca piedra? Is it possible to convert hbsag positive to negative?? And also clarify me on what is active carrier and inactive carrier? Is chanca piedra useful for inactive carriers? Thank you...
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Posted by Maria (Gippsland, Australia) on 01/14/2012
Hi
Vasan, If you go to
https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/hepatitis-b.html#CP_69915 and look straight under your own post Bill has posted about Hep B and
Chanca Piedra. The Ayurvedic herb Amla is also something that may be of help.
I also wonder if BHT would be of help for Hep B as it is for Hep C, maybe Oscar would have some idea. All the best.
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Posted by Max (Commerce Township, Michigan) on 03/08/2012
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Hi, I just converted Hbsag positive to negative. I could not believe it. My viral load was low. But my doctor said the same thing: you cannot do anything with it, just monitor. But I told him that I am going to fight. And I did. I experimented with both chanca piedra and salvia/ligustrum. When I drunk chanca piedra, my viral load went down to undetectable. But I stopped taking it, because I did not know how long I should take. After some time, my results went up a little bit, then I started taking salvia/ligustrum. And yesterday I saw my doctor who told me that my Hbsag is negative. He did not ask me what I am taking, but said that keep doing whatever I am doing. I also started taking Quercenol (a mix of vitamins, minerals and milk thistle). I am still taking salvia and quercenol hoping that I will become immune and my Hbsab will become positive. But salvia can be taken for 3 months and later you need to take a break.
Chanca piedra is better when you make a strong tea.
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Posted by Va (Hyd, Ap) on 03/10/2012
Hi, you are so lucky that you have seroconverted. Can you share your HBVDNA level, Hbsag quantity, e antigen status so that I can have an idea of the regimen. Thanks
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Posted by Max (Commerce Township, Michigan) on 03/12/2012
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My HbDNA was always very low, last couple of times, it was undetectable, but was still present. When I noticed that my DNA changes, goes up and down, I started paying more attention what I take and what I eat. First time, when it became undetectable, I was drinking chanca piedra tea. Couple times a day simmered about 15 minutes. I used dried herbs. Later I stopped and DNA went up a little bit. Two months before my tests, I started taking salvia/ligustrum. My doctor did not know what my results meant. I do not know either, I do not know if I am recovering and one day I will become immune to the virus. I am still taking salvia. When I am done, I will go back to chanca piedra. I also take astragalus. This herb raises our own interferon that is in our bodies. Astragalus is to build immunity.
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Posted by Emmanuel (Lagos, Nigeria) on 03/23/2012
Thanks you all for sharing this information, I will try to see how I can get the chanca piedra leaves here in nigeria. Thank you all very much for you assistance.
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Posted by Steve11269 (Bangkok, Thailand) on 04/21/2012
★★★☆☆BETTER BUT WITH SIDE EFFECTS
I've had hep b for almost 5 months. Chanca piedra (phyllanthus niruri) was about the only hope I had outside of Lamivudine which I despise because the virus can mutate. Chanca piedra killed the majority of the virus but it does have one side effect that I am careful of. It can lower blood pressure drastically over time. I usually take a spoon of salt for that and no problems. Just thought I would share my experience when making the tea from chanca piedra. I have learned that by letting the mixture sit overnight to cool, it becomes much stronger. I now am in the process of adding a lemon to the mix. I may also crush some star gooseberries and add as well. The star gooseberries are another type of phyllanthus (acidus). I just ordered the Salvia/Ligustrum tablets and hope fully I will be rid of this disease. Thanks to Max from Michigan :)
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Posted by Steve (Bangkok, Thailand) on 04/22/2012
I just thought I would expand on phyllanthus for anyone suffering from hep b in Thailand. I have been trying to find the Indian gooseberry (Makham Bum) in Thailand to no avail. Thailand does have the star goosberry (Mayum) and I thought I would share my experience. Before I was able to find Chanca Piedra, I tried the star gooseberry. It had the same effect as Chanca Piedra and believe it or not I found myself itching under my right rib after eating them for a few days. Plus no pain. My next goal will be to mix the 2 types of phyllanthus together and perhaps switch off with Salvia/Ligustrum tablets. Anybody know of any side effects? I also started taking coconut oil. Another question I have is how can I boost my immune system with food or supplements? I know Astragalus has been mentioned. I am looking forward to seeing some immunity results. In my overall opinion about hep b...... I believe that even in a chronic state, all hep b can be removed from the host if multiple forms of treatment are enforced. I believe the key is to never focus on only one form of supplementation thus bypassing the adaptability of the virus. By the way, has anyone had any experience with neem? I have read about doctors in India providing a new dialysis technique combining both the amla (gooseberry) and neem together with some astounding results :)
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Posted by Michael (Lagos, Nigeria) on 04/30/2012
Thank you so much for the information, Chanca piedra is every where here in Nigeria I make a juice of fresh leaf of it and I have been taking it for two months now and still positive of HB. I really need to get salvia-Ligustrum but can't seem to get it in an of the pharmacy stores please some one should tell me where to get salvia-ligustrum in NIGERIA. Thanks
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Posted by Max (Commerce Township, Mi) on 04/30/2012
Ok, I converted my antigen into negative, but now I have to build my antibodies. Has anyone done this? If so then how and what was used? I repeated my tests after two months and nothing has changed. I stopped taking salvia, beacuse it can convert it back to positive. I am afraid that I have to use something else to build antibodies. Any suggestions?
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Posted by Michael (Lagos, Nigeria) on 05/04/2012
Hello Max, Please I would like you to clear me more on this, those it mean that chanca piedra alone with some immune supplement will clear up the virus. I truly want to be sure what to think and clear up this virus from my system, it is slowing me down I can't get a job because of this.
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Posted by Max (Commerce Township, Mi) on 05/09/2012
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Chanca piedra did not convert my serum antigen, but salvia lingustrum did. I took 9 pills 3 times a day for 2.5 months. I had blood work done meanwhile that showed my negative serum antigen. Then I stopped taking it, because I read that it may convert it back. I know that you can take salvia for only 3 months and have a break.
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Posted by Steve11269 (Bangkok, Thailand) on 05/10/2012
Hello, and thank you Bill for all your helpful advice pertaining to hepatitis B remedies. Sorry it took so long to reply.
I have been taking the Salvia/Ligustrum tabs for 2 weeks now. Unfortunately, it not only did not reduce any of my liver inflammation, one of the pills got stuck somewhere in my body. Be careful taking pills! I went into shock last night and I am still recovering. My heart rate hit 200 and tingling was felt throughout all of my limbs. I know it was one of those pills because I felt it when I switched positions in lying down.
Last night the liver inflammation went down, but it's back in full force the next day. I will be going to the doctor to get a DNA test of this virus because it simply won't die. I am convinced the only way for me to rid myself of this hepatic curr, is to try more extreme medicine like BHT or MMS. I have read good reviews on BHT. That will be my next route. The strength of this virus has me concerned :/ Not to mention I am at the 6 month point with this virus :(
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Posted by Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 05/10/2012
Hi Steve11269... BHT will certainly help you to get rid of Hep C. BHT also has the characteristic of being a first class anti-oxidant as well as being capable of killing the Hep C virus as well.
Other remedies for Hep C that seem to work are The Berkson Triple Anti-Oxidant Therapy -- ALA(300 mgs), Selenium(200 mcg) and Milk Thistle(1000 mgs) twice a day at meals. Ted also mentions various other remedies that help to cure Hep C here:
https://www.earthclinic.com/cures/hep_c_questions.html#Question_2947
In the above link, Ted also mentions various other remedies against Hep C including using his own Lysine remedy as well as a TCM remedy called Pien Tze Huang which is made by Zhan Zhou. But this one is expensive and beware of fakes.
Some more options for you.
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Posted by Steve11269 (Bangkok, Thailand) on 05/17/2012
Thanks again for your feedback Bill but I have great news! The pain I have under my right rib for four months was my gallbladder. The Chanca Piedra pushed out one large stone in exactly one week. I just went back to the doctor because the pain is still there. I had bloodwork done and NO VIRUS! I do not have the antibodies as of yet though. So, how long does it take to form anti-hb's? I see many people asking this question here. By the way, the pain is diminishing in my gallbladder because I started taking 3,000 milligrams of Vitamin C daily. I think it is healing me :D Cheers!
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Posted by Akin (Lagos, Nigeria) on 05/21/2012
Thanks All for your honest comment, I just discovered the virus after blood works and an ultra sound show the liver is inflated, the viral load was 250,000 as feb.
I often experience some pain in the stomach area, body itch, and muscle pains and easily fatigued.
I have been on milk thisle, vit c 1000mg, and vit e with daily juice of Carrot, Beetroot, celery, white radish, lemon, cabbage and apple. I exercise regularly.
Its been traumatic, worrisome and burdened with this diagnoses but I'm more than conqueror IJN.
I will like Micheal from Nigeria to contact me on h4bv(at)ymail. com for advice on where I can get CHANCA PIEDRA in Nigeria and maybe we can share more knowledge/approach on defeating this common enemy.
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Posted by Art (Vancouver Bc., Canada) on 01/02/2013
It is not recommeded that you take Milk Thistle if you are taking BHT. The Milk Thistle will block the BHT as it works to protect the liver. Grape fruit or grape fruit juice is also known to block the effects of BHT and other drugs. art.
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Posted by Rhea (Manila, Philippines) on 06/11/2014
Hi! I'm Rhea, I was found to be a carrier of hepa b last year. I've started taking entecavir/entegard for almost a year now and wondering if I could stop it and take chanca piedra instead? We have chanca piedra leaves and I want to know how to use it? hope for your response guys. Pls help. I'm hoping for your response soon, I'm becoming hopeless as time goes by.
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Posted by Timh (KY) on 06/12/2014 2048 posts
Start with a small dose of Chanca Piedra and slowly increase as the days go by. For the meds, slowly decrease dosage.
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Posted by Rhea (Manila, Philippines) on 06/12/2014
Thanks Timh from KY, won't there be any side effects from the chanca piedra? can I decrease the entegard by taking it every other day? because as of now I'm taking it once a day.
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Posted by Timh (KY) on 06/12/2014 2048 posts
If the pills are tablet you can break them in half for starters for maybe two weeks then 1/2 pill every other day for maybe a month and hopefully will be able to not need the chemical meds anymore.
I have been using Chanca Piedra for chronic active viral hepatitis w/ good results and zero side effects for about 1yr.
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Posted by Jingle (Us) on 02/10/2015
I just started the baraclude 0.5mg per day, can I take Chanca Piedra meanwhile? Thanks a lot!
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Posted by Ycats (Lemoore, Ca) on 02/04/2010
Closed Eyes from LA, I would like to thank you for your very informative letter. I would like more info on all of the doses of EVCO, salvia, ligustrum and so on. I hate living with Hep B and have remained single for 3 years because I am embarrassed to share my virus with them. This is the first time I have ever responded to comments, but I believe you are on to something.I hope to hear from you soon. Thank you...ycats
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Posted by Oracleson (Atl, Ga) on 08/30/2010
Hey there, Curious on your current viral load. Do you think Chanca alone can help. I have taken salvia alone before and my load dropped from 10K to 2K in 6 months.
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Posted by Merejem (La Union, La Union Philippines) on 11/25/2010
I was a hep b patient before I graduated in college as an engineer. Found out that im a hep b healthy carrier. But I cant go work abroad since I have hep b- I insist I am a healthy carrier but the doctor in clinic says it might turn to active stage. My world seems to go in black and my heart likes to burst. Why me, why does this kind of illness. Many questions still running on my mind even its 9 years ago. My doctor told me before I can only live for 20 years span. And im lucky if I can reach that 20 years. I panicked, I cant sleep, I cant eat as well. But I still continued life, now im still not cured. I'll try this herbal. I used to cut them of my house at povince at la union before, not knowing this herb might help me. Thanks for this comments that ive just read.. I'll try and plant some again im my vicinity. ''Phyllanthus niruri or Chanca Piedra''.. Life goes on and don't lose hope.. Our body might be affected but our heart and spirit to live a normal life must be on top of us.. Live without fear just visit your doctor twice a year after you take this plant.. Good luck to us friend out there. GOD STILL KNOWS BEST FOR US....
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Posted by Mamac (Sherman Oaks, Ca, Usa) on 03/17/2011
Closed Eyes from Los Angeles,
Thank you for your post. Did you see a holistic/ ayurvedic doctor in Los Angeles? I have a small boy with chronic Hep B, (from his birth mother) and I am not sure of the correct dosages. He is only 4.
Thank you all so much for sharing your information.
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Posted by Jamila728 (Rochester, Ny) on 06/18/2011
Hi I have hepatitis b how long ive had it im unsure but I found out 2 1/2 years ago when I was pregnant. My viral load isnt that high about 5800 but its risen from about 2500. My doctor doesnt seemed worried about it at all just telling me to come in every 6 months to monitor it. I dont like this and believe that western medicine is all about pharmacueticals(?). I want to start taking care of myself before its too late can someone help me with herbs and things
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Posted by Jamila728 (Rochester, New York, United States) on 06/18/2011
Closed Eyes from LA: I just purchased chanca piedra in capsule form from raintree nutrition do you believe that is as affective as the tea? I notice alot of people use it for hep c and you are one of the few I have seen that use it for hep b. I dont want to listen to my dr anymore and there oh dont worry about it attitude. Im ready to take charge and find a way to become healthier than I already am. Any input I'm grateful for. Thankyou
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Posted by Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 06/20/2011
Hi Jamila728... Chanca Piedra is one of the finest all-round herbs out there. It quickly reduces blood calcium levels, is a liver/kidney protective, reduces blood acidity, reduces high blood, reduces blood sugar, is an anti-inflammatory, reduces pain and is a strong anti-viral. Here is the full spec, with all the research, of exacty how useful Chanca Piedra is as a herb:
http://www.rain-tree.com/chanca.htm
Chanca Pidra(CP) is also more well-known as a successful anti-viral against Hep B. CP stops the Hep B virus by interferring with the Reverse Transcriptase enzyme during the Hep B virus's reproduction stage. So CP actually stops the Hep B virus reproducing itself.
Chanca Piedra is also currenty being researched for it's beneficial effects against HIV AIDs and Cancer.
CP is also completely safe to take in large doses -- no side-effects have ever been recorded even at large dosages. However, since CP is also a mild diuretic, it might be advisable to supplement with fulvic acid drops or sea salt or a good mineral supplement as well -- if the CP is taken for a long period.
If you have the CP capsules, then take at least 1000 mgs two or three times a day at mealtimes.
I would also optionally use the following protocol to further protect your liver:
Taken at mealtimes
Alpha Lipoic Acid -- 300 mgs twice a day(lunch and dinner)
Selenium -- 200 mcgs twice a day
Milk Thistle -- 1000 mgs twice a day
This simple protocol works to significantly increase Gutathione levels in the liver to help to fight the Hep C virus, remove toxins and to help raise up and strengthen your immune system to proper levels.
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Posted by Close Eyelids Poen (Los Angeles, Ca) on 07/29/2011
Mamac fromShermanOaks
The best start in my opinion is to feed the 4 year old good food. There are also anti-virals foods such as coconut milk and shitake & Maitake mushrooms. These foods have been shown to lower HB viral loads. The chanca piedra tea would then be my other recommendation. I cant recommend the Salvia Lingustrum for kids as I don't know ratio portions for kids and what is appropriate. Also, ensure the child is taking daily vitamins. That make a difference also. Not directly but ensure all the necessary nutrients are present for a growing child.
Jamila728 fromRochester, Ny
Wow considers yourself lucky with such a small VL. Drinking Chanca Piedra tea every day, made strong 3 times a day for 4 months and according to a report from a well Know Doctor Bloomburge in the 60's and you have a high change of "Clearing the virus" from the chronic state. I recommend on shitakii mushroom daily too to increase the changes of clearing HB.
Also if you bought the rain-tree capsules, the best way to really get the most out of them is to take one capsule and pour it into scalding hot water, let it sit for 5 min and drink all of it like a tea. You pull more of the active substance out into the water which makes its way into the bloodstream waay more than swallowing the dry pill.
Do this 3 times a day. That will make your bottle last much longer and you will get more Chanka Piedra internally. Do include anti-viral foods in your regimin and a daily vitamin with high levels of Vitamin D. People with liver issues like HB tend to convert less cholesterol in the liver and skin into vitamin D.
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Posted by Jamila728 (Rochester, Ny) on 08/11/2011
Close Eyelids Poen from Los Angeles, Ca
thankyou so much for your reply I will start putting the capsules in the tea to see if that helps as ive been just taking them in pill form. Also do you have any recommendations for a multi-vitamin? am I looking for like a womens one a day? And should I just eat shitake mushrooms or take a supplement and what kind of anti viral foods should I be eating? Thank you so very much
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Posted by Closedeyelidso (Sanfran, Ca) on 10/31/2011
Hi everyone,
Here is an update on liver health I have personally found effective in the last few months.
Without any explanation from my doctors or evident on nay measurable tests, I still have liver pain. According to all prior tests, liver enzymes are low(normal range), I am healthy and there is not liver damage. I also cannot sleep on my right side like I could earlier in the month when eating the below mentioned foods. Measurable dna/rna remains extremely low although I am due for tests in the next month or two. FYI, I am not taking any supplements with the exception of a daily multivitamin and a separate vitamin D 1000 IU capsule. GNC MeggaMens formula is perfect as its selenium and vitamin D levels have recently (in the last 2 years) been increased as science continues to support medical reports of liver and immune health with high daily doses of each in recent findings.
After reading how beneficial watermelon and avocados are to the liver, I decided to incorporate them in to my daily diet. For the first time with out taking a supplement, the liver pain went away on its own! I ate one avocado a day and a plate full of watermellon a day, sometimes twice a day.
I recommend googling "watermelon liver health "and "Avocado liver protector" to read just how beneficial they both are. Usually with the articles are listed the scientific published medical journals that have researched the benefits, explain the why it does what it does and the substances isolated in the foods promoting the positive results.
Also extremely important is what I stopped eating. I reduced my intake of grains such as pasta, rice and breads. I also reduced my meat intake. I increased my raw vegetable intake like tons of spinach or other dark green leafy salads. Do not eat any foods containing canola oil. Read all about what canola oil is made from and how the plant seed, rape-seed is legally classified as an insecticide and how processing of this oil when heating, makes it less friendly to the body by sucking up vitamin e levels in the body.
If one grows tired of eating a lot of watermelon, you can juice it as well. I just got a juicer and juice it with a half of a whole lemon, peel and all. Lemon is also good at cleaning the liver!
It was amazing! To feel great and no liver pain without taking anything was awesome!
Today, I am not too proud to say, I fell off of that great diet and the liver pain returned. I recently have been eating salads again, making fresh carrot/apple/half a lemon juice but not eating any watermelon at all. I think the difference is the lack of watermelon. I'm going to buy one today and cut it up in peaces to eat over the next 5 days. Watermelon contains a potent amino acid extremely beneficial to the liver that aids in the removal of ammonia in the blood.
Just to be clear, a half a watermelon should be consumed in less than 2.5 days. That's how much one should eat or juice. The only downside for me in eating all that watermelon was peeing more frequently!
Be sure if you try the daily avocado, watermelon with the reduction of grains and meats, increased raw veggies let us know if you feel a difference.
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Posted by Timh (Louisville, Usa) on 11/01/2011 2048 posts
Closedeyelidso, thanx for your Liver post! If I might reply, it appears something is depleting your glutathione enzyme. Avocato, being one of the riches preformed glutathione foods (next to Asparagus), is obviously giving that boost. The watermelon supports the already taxed kidneys. Since your conditions seems sorta permanent, it seems you might need to do a whole house and whole body detox.
Also, in my own case, I too was using diet/nutrition and alternative cleansing for liver health w/ marginal releif. Then I found out about Milk Thistle Seed. MTS immediately stabilized my liver, but it appears a little too late as I soon became completely disabled. Supplimental NAC is also an excelent Glutathione booster. Another food highly recomended by naturalpaths is Broccoli Sprout Extract as it boost both phases of Liver P-450 enzymes. Good luck on your health journey.
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Posted by Closedeyesopen (San Fran) on 11/03/2011
Thank you for your reply. I never had liver pain until I had a Hep A vaccination. Thats when everything started. The hep B had been there unknowingly for a long time with never a symptom. It was literally the next day after the shot when the pain started.
I don't think this will be permanent. My liver is completely healthy with a very small viral count and no damage or visible signs of HepB according to the doctors I have seen over the last 2 years over at UCLA.
I just got finished eating the watermelon : ) I read it was best to eat it before bed for the liver. I started a few days ago and noticed a big difference. I can lay on my side again but just for five min or so which still is a significant improvement from when I wrote the post.
I'm very sorry to hear about your condition. I have read so many stories about how people who were disabled or in need of a transplant, turn themselves around with dietary changes, life style changes and a variety of herbal/amino acids. Hope a turnaround is in store for you soon!
A wise woman once said to me: "I find that nothing will get past the doors of our minds we keep closed - or in other words, remain open and that anything is possible"
That's how I lowered the viral load from Millions to hundreds!
Good luck to you!
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Posted by Majid (Auckland, New Zealand) on 11/12/2011
Hi everyone. over 8 years ago I diagnosed with chronic HBV, and I was taking Lamovadine since, until last year I found out my body do not respond to that anymore so I started VIREAD as well.
And now after 8 years of medicine nothing changed . I am sick and tired of this, for last result decide to take alternative medicine as followed :
18/OCT/2011 : I STARTED CHANCA PIEDRA TEA TWO TO THREE TIMES A DAY
10/NOV/2011 : I ADD THE Following:
A) MULTI VITAMIN 1 DAILY
B) LIVER DETOXIFY 1X3 DAILY
C) MILK THISTLE 150mg 1X3 DAILY
D) SELENIUM 200mg 1x3 DAILY
E) ST JOHNS WORT 300mg 1X3 DAILY
F) Salvia-Ligustrum 2X3 DAILY
I will post my blood result in 2 months. I have no idea how it's gone help, but I am taking them along with my normal medicine.
I will appreciate any comment.
thank you all
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Posted by Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 11/13/2011
Hi Majid... Although your herbal regimen against Hep B is a good one, I think it needs clarifying.
You are already using Chanca Piedra as well as Milk Thistle and Selenium which is great. But you would stand a much better chance against Hep B if you also took Alpha Lipoic Acid, Acetyl Cysteine and low dose naltrexone(LDN) every day as well. See this article about how a child was cured of Hep B using this therapy.
http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=1265528
The proper nutrients and dosages you should be taking for this CAM therapy are:
Milk Thistle -- 1000 mgs at meal times twice a day
Selenium -- 200 mcg twice a day at mealtimes
Alpha Lipoic Acid -- 300 mgs twice a day at mealtimes.
Acetyl Cysteine -- 200 mgs twice a day at meals.
LDN -- one 3 mg tablet taken with water at 9:00 pm at night just before bed.
The nutrients act in the following way:
Chanca Piedra -- inhibits the HBV Reverse transcriptase virus stopping its reproductive capability.
CAM therapy -- Kills the virus and repairs the liver by antioxidant action.
LDN -- Increases endorphin levels which doubles or triples the white blood cell count in the body. It also seems to fix any auto-immune signalling problems between the immune system and the anti-bodies which attack the liver. Thus the anti-bodies revert to normal immune behaviour.
This herbal therapy will not only kill the HBV virus -- it also helps to repair the liver damage bacause it greatly raises the Glutathione levels in the liver. This helps to fight the virus, detox and repair the liver as well.
Unfortunately taking Viread as well as Lamivudine will not help you that much. Lamuvidine can damage the liver as well as raise viral levels when used with other anti-virals. Type "lamivudine warnings" in Google search to find out about this. It is also quite difficult to come off Lamivudine but this is up to you.
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Posted by Majid (Auckland) on 11/13/2011
Hi Bill,
Thank you very much for your comment, my doctor told me to stop taking lamevdine 2 weeks ago. And about adjustment I will do that. I have to order online so it gone two weeks before I get anything.
Thanks again for comment.
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Posted by Colsede Yeso Pen (Las Altogles, Usa) on 12/14/2011
Update:
I have been taking the Salvia Lingustrum with GNC's brand of olive leaf extract for a month now. I find their brand was the most effective olive leaf out of the many brands I have taken over the years. I now have no pain regardless of what I eat as some foods would cause some pain when passing through the liver. I can lay on my side again unlike just a month ago. I started taking them both for something totally unrelated, a sever tooth ache.
A filling came out a month ago which by the way, is good since it was amalgam. Around that time, that tooth was causing severe pain all over my right jaw and face! I am trying to avoid getting a root canal after reading the dangers in health associated with them.
Olive leaf extract worked well in the past with a toothache. I decided to combine it this time with the Ligusrtom formula and it worked within hours!! It works so well. I have been to a dentist and they gave me a prescription for antibiotics which I have not gotten filled as the infection is gone, so long as I keep taking these herbs. IT starts to come back after a day if I go too long without taking it- like 8 hours or more. I will take the antibiotics if this is not completely healed in another week or so.
I have been taking 8 Salvia/Ligustrum with 2 olive leafe, 3 times a day. Also included is about 8,000 IU of Vitamin D and one daily vitamin I take this time a year/flue season to avoid getting the flu.
I will continue with this through the end of February. After that point, I will go for another round of tests and post the results here.
I failed to mention a side effect when taking this amount, this frequently, on a daily basis. It increases libido.
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Posted by Jamila728 (Rochester, Ny) on 12/19/2011
Ok so I've been taking the chanca piedra capsules. I haven't been drinking it as a tea though :(. What kind of multi vitamin should I be taking along side this. What about maca root- I've heard some things about that. Is there anything specific I should be taking my viral load is really low.
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Posted by Closed Lids Wide (Sanfran, Ca) on 12/27/2011
As long as the mulitvitamin high levels of vitamin D and selenium - like the GNC brand usually in a box next to their registers, your good.
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Posted by Petur (Reykjavik) on 06/02/2012
where the F**K can I get this salvia/ligustrum I have been searching and there is nothing! Please tell me!
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Posted by Max (Commerce Township, Mi) on 06/11/2012
Go to the website of traditional chinese medicine in Atlanta. You can order online.
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Posted by Kaye (Cebu, Cebu City, Philippines) on 06/17/2012
Hi I'm new here. I was diagnosed with hep b last 2008 and never tried any medications since my doctor just gave me the option to treat myself or not. When I had my screening mg HBsAg w/ Titer (CMIA) shows about 228. 3. 170 and reactive. I read your reviews about chance piedra and curious if it would help me change my hepa status from positive to negative or it would help me eradicate this disease. Where can I buy it here in Cebu? And what's the best brand? Do I need to take any other supplements together with chanca piedra? What's the best thing to do? Thank you
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Posted by Seza (Houston, Tx) on 06/22/2012
Hi I'm one of the victum, so I wanna ask about Fig leaf is it works, thanks.
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Posted by What (Rio Rancho, Nm, USA) on 07/14/2012
To Closed Eyes from Los Angeles, Ca... I am a carrier of Hep B from childhood, with viral loads of 3 million. My ALT is 50, and AST is 27. I was reading about Chanca Piedra and its possible chance of curing Hep B. I have a question in regards of obtaining Chanca Piedra. Are you consuming the exact from a plant form (how can I obtain this plant?) or can you purchase the manufactured form of it on the internet? What else can you recommend to me?
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Posted by Cl-ey (Los Angeles) on 07/15/2012
Since I first posted this in 09, I see Chanca Piedra more widely available on line and even in some higher end health food stores.
You should have no problem finding this herb online. You can rid HB with this tea. You will have to drink 3 tall glasses every day.
Use honey rather than sugar. Thats what I used and got excellent results. After 3 months see where your viral count is. It will be way better! Continue with the tea and keep your tooth bruch in bleach water after using then throw away after 30 days.
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Posted by What (Rio Rancho, Nm, USA) on 07/18/2012
Dear Cl-ey from Los Angeles, Thank you for your response. I was able to obtain the dried form of Chanca. I'm not sure if it's benefical if I boiled/steep the plant 3 times before I throw away the Chanca plants and replace it with new ones.
Would you recommend any other supplements from your previous post that I should take with Chanca? Were you able to clear out/seroconverted the Hep B? What is your status on Hep B if you don't mind.
Thanks again.
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Posted by Sniper (Manila, Philippines) on 08/02/2012
Hi sir, how really effective is chanca piedra? Is it true that also vitamins e and c cud help and also silymarin? Is there anyone that can attest that he is cured by taking that herb? thanx
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Posted by Hifive (Dallas, Texas, Usa) on 08/14/2012
Going to try CP for 2 months and see what happens. I'll keep everyone updated. Been a chronic carrier my whole life. I'll see how well or not so well it does.
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Posted by Bebtotz (Bacolod City, Negros Occidental, Philippines) on 09/27/2012
Hi am from philippines, my frend has an hepatitis b, is it true that chanca piedra can cure hepatitis b? pls reply if its true.
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Posted by Leon (Fl) on 09/15/2013
Can you please eamil me at omyg56 (at) yahoo (dot) com. I have same hep B and like to talk to you on that please help.
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Posted by Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 11/27/2009
★★★★★
Ayurvedic Cure for Hepatitis
Hi everyone...There is an Indian plant called Bhumya Malaki -- also known as "StoneBreaker" or "Seed Under Leaf" or Chanca Piedra -- that grows as a weed in the tropics. This is widely used in Indian herbal medicine and is, at present, the only cure for Hepatitis B that is proven by research -- Evidence here on use, efficacy, safety, contraindications and research:
http://www.rain-tree.com/chanca.htm
http://www.herbalcureindia.com/herbs/bhumyamalaki.htm
This herb grows as a weed in my compound in the Philippines where I live and is a most useful herb for a host of problems, good for almost any illness and I use it all the time myself. It is also a harmless herb, with no recorded side-effects.
If you can, visit an Ayurvedic herbalist, and I can almost guarantee that he or she will prescribe this herb amongst others for Hepatitis.
To be effective against Hepatitis, an aqueous decoction(herb boiled gently in water) must be made. A tincture is not so good. My method is to take one or two small plants, cut them up, bash them to lightly bruise it and open it up, throw all this into a pot, add 2 litres of water and boil this down gently to 1 ltre, cool, strain and then pour into a container and store in the fridge. I pour out a third of a glass of this decoction twice a day, add a little orange juice(decoction is very bitter) plus a little more water and down it in one.
Chanca Piedra or Bhumya malaki acts directly on the Hepatitis B virus by preventing reproduction, with virtually complete disappearance of the H-B antigen within a month of using this protocol.
Phyllanthus niruri or Chanca Piedra is a plant with a unique feature -- it isn't called "Seed-Under-Leaf" for nothing and may be identified as a small plant that grows 30-40 cms high and eventually forms small seeds all along the leaf stems. Here are some useful pictures of the plant:
http://www.chirinka.com/catalog/images/phyllanthusniruri.jpg
http://anthrome.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/stonebreaker.jpg
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Posted by Jam (Pasig City, Philippines) on 01/16/2010
Hi I had read your claim regarding CHANCA PIEDRA, I also made some research, thou not totally proven yet I believed that this will help my friend... my question is where can I get this herb..
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Posted by Climategate (Los Angeles, Ca) on 02/02/2010
Do a search on line. There as a place located in San Diego that I buy from but this site does not allow for names. For me the tea sweated with honey worked. Also plant based selenium, alpha lipoic acid and milk thistle. Make sure to take a general multivitamin too.
All of the above mentioned items WILL lower the viral load!
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Posted by Hauwa (Fct, Abuja) on 10/06/2010
How can I get your hepatitis B remedy in Nigeria?
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Posted by Bash (Abuja, Nigeria) on 08/25/2011
Hauwa CHANCA PIEDRA is everywhere in Nigeria, u can recognise it as weed if u have the picture
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Posted by Bayo (Nigeria, Ogun State) on 03/16/2012
Just noticed about the seed under leaf plant also known as Chanca Piedra and I discovered that its a plant that grows all most everywhere in Africa Nigeria and may be recognize as weed. Just got some now for my use and I hope it will cure my Hepatitis B in Jesus name. I need somebody to say Amen for me...
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Posted by Rj (Quezon City, Metro Manila, Philippines) on 01/20/2013
Hi Bill, I like to know where can I buy the Chanca Piedra. I have hep B since I got tested last february 2012. I been using Korean Red Ginseng and my Hbsag count goes down and down. Can you help me?
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Posted by Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 01/21/2013
Hi R from Quezon.... You are definitely living in the right place if you want to buy Chanca piedra.
They sell Chanca piedra (also called Sampa-sampalukan in Filipino) in the herb section at Quiapo Market (aka Quinta Market) just next to both the Church of the Black Nazarene and Quezon Bridge. You can buy chanca piedra as a plant there and perhaps grow it in your garden and use it like that.
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Posted by Ricoh (Manila, philippines) on 05/13/2015
Hi there Bill!! Hope you're still there to answer my questions.. my first question is, can I substitute that heart shape plant that you mentioned with serpentina (andrographis paniculata also known as the king of bitters)??
What is the purpose of combining of another bitter herbs to CP?? Can you teach me a proper way of drying CP plant?? hope I can talk to you longer in our dialect because I'm not very good in english. I really need your help. please add me at my yahoo messenger (cire_gt(at)yahoo.com) or at my friendster (dodong_oragon(at)yahoo.com).
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Posted by Ricoh (Manila, Philippines) on 05/21/2015
Thank you very very much for your reply Bill, I really appreciate it. is there a Quiapo Market in Quezon City?? isn't it located in Quiapo Manila?? Anyway, I have another question. are there any supplements which contains most of the important vitamins and minerals that you mentioned like alpha liphoic, selenium etc etc coz it would be very expensive to buy those supplements one by one. how about usana supplements?? it says that it has some of the most important minerals like alpha lipoic and many more but its selenium is not food based just like the one you recommend.
Also I would like to ask if its safe for a person with hepatitis b to take fresh cayenne pepper because I've been taking it for more than a week now, 3x a day after meals because I've heard that it's good for the heart and will unclog blocked arteries. even though I don't have any symptoms of heart problems yet, I decided to take cayenne for prevention since almost all of my grandparents, uncle, relatives died from heart problems & stroke. If you have spare time please text me at my cel. no. 09106630286.
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Posted by Bill (San Fernando, Philippines) on 05/22/2015
Hi Ricoh...I would advise, for now, just to take the Chanca piedra(CP) as advised for your Hep B problems. CP is also highly beneficial for the liver and kidneys, lowers blood pressure, removes excess calcium from the blood and helps to lower fats and sugars in the blood. So CP will also go a long way to helping you maintain a healthy heart.
Concerning your fears of hereditary heart disease, I would simply take 100 mgs niacin at every meal. Niacin will give you the niacin flush. To avoid this just take an aspirin 20 mins before you take the niacin -- no flush. If you can, you should also supplement some form of iodine as well. You can buy lugol's iodine from Philippine websites like sulit.com. You could also perhaps just buy some liquid kelp extract(which contains iodine) from a health store and use that instead. The combination of niacin and iodine -- called iodo-niacin -- is an old and well-known pre-WWII heart remedy that worked better than statins and without the dangerous side-effects.
I would also try to avoid sugar, excess carbohydrates, junk food and excess fats in your diet.
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Posted by Trey (Apopka, Fl) on 04/08/2016
Hi I have Heaptitis B and would like to know how much chance piedra would help me kill the virus. I read that someone boiled the weed and cured his hep b in 6 months. What is the best form to use, whole leaves, tea or extract? Thanks
