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Like many reading these comments I've scoured the internet for a solution for years and years. I'm a 39 yr old male and i have 3 bad keloids since my acne-ridden teens. I've had disastrous laser and steroid injections. They can really get you down these itchy unsightly lumps.
After much trial and error I've found something that has really worked for me. It takes patience but my girlfriend is in awe of the transformation in the last 18 months I've been using this method.
The main ingredient is MSM, taken internally. This is in my opinion the miracle drug we've all been waiting for. Take 2/3000 mg a day with vitamin to aid its effectiveness. I think this alone is responsible for about 70% of the shrinkage but I mix up a home made(not inexpensive but cheaper than a lot of the scam creams out there on the internet) cream that I think makes a difference too and really helps with the itchiness.
I don't have exact measures as i apply this quite liberally to the surrounding areas too as it makes your skin feel good and helps a lot of the teeny white mini keloids I have disappear too.
It's basically one half quality aloe vera gel and one half moo goo msm cream(moo goo are an Australian company, it's widely available here in Ireland) with a few drops of tea tree, lavender and calendula oils. I don't always have all five ingredients but for some reason i feel it works better if you mix it up a bit, two weeks of tea tree, two weeks of lavender and calendula. There's no fixed method and all ingredients are good for your skin in general, especially if you're prone to acne and scarring. It is i feel good to have the aloe vera and msm to dilute the oils though and they can be a bit harsh on their own in my experience and the msm, I've read, helps the oils permeate the outer scar tissue to get to problem inside.
All this said I'm not sure exactly how much the cream really shrinks the scar. It really really eases the itching and puts the scars to the back of my mind so to me it's a very important part of my daily routine now. As much so as my morning cup of coffee(which probably doesn't help the keloids! ). You get to crave that soothing lotion and it has improved the surrounding areas no end.
The one thing I'm 100% certain shrinks keloid scars is msm taken internally. Give a few months. It's not going to happen overnight but within 3 months i think you'll notice that to touch the scars feel different and are noticeably starting to break down. It has changed my life to know that the scars are slowly improving rather than endlessly searching and going through the depression after another failed attempt at improving them. It works! And it's not crazy expensive.
Give it a go! Good luck, David
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It is also very important that you protect your keloid from sun exposure or use higher sunprotect factor!
I am glad to hear that ACV has worked for you. I am writing to request you for further progress on your scar treatment. I have never used ACV on my Chest Keloid which is approx 5cm x 2 cm in size and active causing lot of pain and itching. I wanted to know, how was your Keloid before ACV treatment? Was it active ( pain or itching)?
I am little skeptical to start my ACV treatment at home as I am not sure about its side effect. Did keloid returns after getting treated with ACV or it gets permanently cured.
Request you to kindly share your experience. Your experiece with ACV will definitely help us. Thanks in advance for your help.
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Before that I tried surgery, silicon sheets of various types for months, snail creams, emu oil, injections. While the oil and creams didn't affect the scars, the surgery and injections made them much worse and they were big and itchy and painful when they came back.
Please give iodine a try. On older scars I guess it will take a bit longer as I tried it on a scar that was just over a year old. I will now start to treat all the others and I can't wait to see the results!
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Looking for some help. I have some 20 big keloids on shoulders and chest. These are 12 yrs old now.
I just bought DMSO liquid and lugol iodine(5% iodine and 10% Potassium Iodide). Can someone tell me how to apply these on keloids and how often? Has anyone seen results using this combination?
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Hi, I have tiny keloid on my breast its really annoying and itchy. I am in nigeria, osun state to be precise. All d drugs mentioned here can not be found in our store so I retired to aloeve gel natural. so my ques is that how long will it take this keloid to dissapier cos amreally worried. I hv being using d alloe vera for 2weeks now day and nyt. Thanks
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21070203
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23867793
Exposure of your skin to uvb rays from the sun will generate vitamin d as long as your shadow is shorter than you are tall when out in the sun. Vitamin D supplementation at higher dosing may be a way to avoid the potential for hyperpigmentation with sun exposure in some individuals while still getting the potential keloid benefit if any.
It takes at least four weeks of regular supplementing before any potential benefit might likely be seen as vitamin d takes time to build up in your system.
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At one point though, I had about 8/9 small keloids on my chest. And through a series of events I'm still trying to figure out, all of them but one completely went away! And within just a few weeks too, I was literally watching them flatten out and fade. So what happened was I got a few Intense Pulsed Light (IPL) treatments, then went to Florida and accidentally got too much sun and it got much darker. They became dark brown squares from where the IPL was done. I was pretty upset. The dermatologist gave my some hydroquinone to fade the pigment and eventually it scabbed over and peeled off. The keloids were still underneath though, but more pink. Then very shortly afterwards, they started just going away on their own! So I decided to try to do the same thing with the ones on my shoulders, although I didn't expose it to sun and the treated area didn't get hyperpigmented. The keloids are sitll there. This all happened 3 or 4 years ago.
Anyway, I know it's a bit counterintuitive as it says everywhere that sunlight causes darker pigmentation. But maybe in a controlled setting, it could actually boost something within the skin cells to heal?? I mean the sun is life giving in many ways, does anyone here have any thoughts on how some heliotherapy may be beneficial for the skin? Thanks.
They started out fine and over time got really raised and hurt. I ended up going in to get steroid shots. It helped flatten them 95% from what they were. There are a couple tiny spots that are a little bumpy yet, but I am not concerned about that anymore.
My question is, since they are so pink and have been since I had surgery, would ACV help bring that pinkness down to a more natural skin tone? Or does anyone have any suggestions to make the color fade? I just want to be able to walk around without my shirt on outside, and it's killing me that these scars are so prominent that I am going to get nothing but stares, whispers and points from people.
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Thanks for the information, as you mentioned serrapeptase eats fibrous and other dead tissues, can we combine it with cryotheraphy, like have done cryotherapy and have the serrapeptase along with it for some months it will reduce the inflamation caused by cryo...
Did you know anybody who had done like this? Please respond ASAP.
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Perhaps some infection got in during the scab formation? I would clean it with some iodine or hydrogen peroxide.
If you can get some activated charcoal powder, you can make a poultice to put over the area overnight. You would put a little plastic wrap over the poultice and use a bandana to attach it to your head.
Here is how to make a charcoal poultice.
I would use one each night until all infection is cleared. You can use one during the day, too, if you like. The longer the charcoal is on in a day, the more quickly it will heal. Use a clean poultice each night, and a new one for the daytime if you use it then as well.
It sounds like you are moving in the right direction. I hope you are all healed up soon!
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I used a tiny piece of toilet paper (because I don't have cotton balls) and put ACV on it and taped it to my chest. If I had a bandaid I'd prefer that because the tape irritated my skin and I'm sure the irritation was from the ACV being on it. It kind of stings and itches when I have it on, but I iced it and put aloe around my keloid to try ease the burning sensation, which worked. I leave on a piece overnight and just whenever I'm home I try to have it on. I'm so happy it's gone down hopefully it'll nearly disappear in the future :) I highly recommend ACV
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As someone who has keloids and hypertrophic scars (there's a difference, and I have both.), I have studied the formation and treatment of these scars down to the sciences and protein signals that cause them.
Keloids are formed because your body is responding to inflammation. When you are damaged, your body tries to heal. Unfortunately for us keloided folks, our bodies don't know when to STOP healing. Our bodies keep sending out an inflammatory protein even after we're already healed, which is what makes the fibrous, raised, discolored scar tissue.
When you "burn" off your keloid with ACV or something similar, you are re-wounding yourself. Your body will sense the wound and send the signals out to heal. Sure, the keloid may disappear for some time, but there is a huge, HUGE chance that it will return (and probably be bigger than the first time). Think about it: your body over-responds to a wound by forming a keloid. If you try to remove the keloid by creating another wound for your body to heal, a new keloid will form. It has like a 93% chance of reforming.
Those shots that you receive in the keloid are corticosteroids. They are extremely anti-inflammatory. When the doctors give you those, they are essentially trying to send anti-inflammatory signals into the scar so that it will stop putting out that inflammatory protein that keeps telling your body that more tissue is needed.
Radiation is also done because it has the ability to disrupt this inflammatory protein. Believe it or not, the protein responsible for keloids is one of the same proteins that causes tumor growth in cancer--the NF-KB protein. Keloids ARE NOT cancer, but that's why cancer treatments (like radiation) are sometimes done for keloids. That doesn't make them ideal options, though.
I have treated my scars with the use of Serrapeptase. It is an enzyme that I order off Amazon and take by mouth. It eats fibrous, dead tissue from the inside out. I've been taking it for around 7 months, and my keloids are flatter and more blended in to my shoulder. My shoulder keloids are 15 years old, and this is the only thing I do to treat them.
My hypertrophic scars on my abdomen are only around 6 months old. I am currently using silicone gel and/or sheets to treat them (as well as the serrapeptase enzyme, obviously). I've noticed that they are flatter when I eat a high anti-inflammatory diet (lots of fruits and vegetables) and take anti-inflammatory supplements (turmeric, for example.)
A highly anti-inflammatory diet, serrapeptase (and possibly natokinase. It also eats fibrous/dead tissue, but don't take it if you're allergic to soy. I am allergic to soy, so I cannot take this enzyme.), silicone treatments, and/or rosehip oil/lavender oil/helichrysum oil/quercitin. Be soothing, not damaging. Good luck.
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I want to use alternative methods for the treatment of keloid...I tried steroid injections and other ayurvedic treatment...which are not so useful. I believe steroid injections gave me another keloid near the old one....since then I stopped injections...
Before taking some aggressive treatments like Cryotherapy or Radaiation... want to try alternate methods... Please post your experience with alternative treatment for CHEST KELOIDS
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I'm currently using raw apple cider vinegar (actually, it is turmeric vinegar, made the same way as raw ACV but using turmeric root -- it's only available here in India where I'm currently traveling) on my keloids and have experienced the following over the past 5 days:
- burning and itching on the scars when vinegar is applied
- dark scabbing. Some of the scabs have come off, revealing bright pink tissue underneath -- it's still the keloid though, and I'm wondering if it will actually flatten and lighten up with continued application? It's only been 5 days.
I've been putting the vinegar on in 2 ways: (1) made little patches out of a cotton towel and taped them on for longer periods, up to overnight and (2) apply every vinegar few minutes with a cotton swab when I'm not using the patches. The patches keep it on longer, but they're big and inconvenient, and the tape irritates my skin a lot.
Does anyone know if vinegar can actually restore the scar tissue to the texture of normal skin, or does it just flatten it slowly by process of erosion?
I'm also wondering if hydrogen peroxide is a good option, and if anyone has done both at the same time (alternating)? How does the hydrogen peroxide work? The vinegar makes sense to me (like a peel facial! ), but the h/p is confusing.
Greatly appreciate any and all responses! I've had my keloids for 15 - 31 years (almost my whole life) and would love to see change. Thanks!
I have tried electro-acupuncture (12 treatments total so far) for my keloids on my chest, shoulder and arm, and did notice some very interesting results.
My keloids are very old (20+ years) but responded in the following ways:
--almost completely stopped itching
--started to flatten
-- color started to turn skin-colored in small patches within the keloid
the change was gradual, over the course of the 12 treatments in 2 months, but also noticed more tissue flexility and nervous system reactions in those areas due to the treatment.
However, it requires a lot of patience and is somewhat painful (at needle insertion), and somewhat expensive considering the number of treatments required -- but not as expensive as steroid injections or laser treatment of course -- so I would try the home remedies first if you can.
I had to leave my acupuncturist for travel that I'm currently doing, so now I will try the home remedies while I am away.
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I wanna try ACV on my chest got 5 yr keloids, a little bit worried on applying. Did your keloid go away completely?
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I saw your post on ACV and I have decided to use it. after the first day it looked like there was dirt on the scar. I have used it for three days now and today it looks like the skin is peeling off. I am worried cos I dont want anther injury there, but I want to know if its normal.
truly it smells bad. but if it would work I am willing to stick to using it.
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On my work vacation, I was dreading seeing my friends and family with the keloids regrown and two new ones starting to grow in the same area as one of the larger keloids, so I researched and searched the web for an answer other than surgery which costed so much. I came upon this forum and read all the comments, testimonials, and decided apple cider vinegar might be the first natural remedy to try as it seemed simple and cheap.
I started treating my Keloids w/ ACV on a cotton pad just before my vacation back in Canada started. And as many said, it peeled the top skin and burned at first. After 3 weeks now, my 3 large (1.5 cm) keloids are almost gone/shrunk (80-85% complete so far) and my skin is more radiant, and I'm decently pleased with my appearance. I will continue using ACV until it completely removes any trace of a scar and yeah, it works.
The best method is to apply pressure to the keloid(s)with the ACV on a cotton pad as much as possible and massage around the keloids every 10-15 mins. and let it dry and reapply. I slept with the ACV on my keloids as it burned the top keloid layer in the first two weeks. It was tough, it smelled bad/sour, but it was worth it. Now I know why Dr's/skin specialists say there's no cure... the $$$ they can make, over and over. I'd spent over $1000 getting the keloids treated before trying ACV and then when ready to give up on my face and cave in to a life of surgeries I got lucky w/ the helpful info/testimonials on THIS site.
If you can handle the sour, pungent smell, and have time, try it, give it a month to shrink, have patience regarding the process. The stinging is a good indication it's working to remove the impurities in the skin and activate the stem cells. Most ppl dilute the ACV w water (which is ok) but I didn't, I took the pain while hoping to get quicker results. Please spread the word, and let's help people regain their confidence, self esteem, and improve overall happiness. Thank you Earth Clinic, and all those individuals who posted before me regarding this natural cure.
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I wish I had a before and after photo. They were SOOOO Big and painful and itched so bad. After about six months this is what I have found to work.
Massage. If I take a glass bottle and massage them for about 5 minutes they are noticably smaller. Then I take Lavender and or Frankincense essential oil and pour directly on it. I also take a body brush and brush it daily for a few weeks. They stay pretty flat. I was amazed at how well it worked after the first application. I only do it a few times a week.
I ran out of oil waiting for it in the mail and I tried turpentine instead and it stings in one area but it's flatter and smaller like a dent in it after about 2 minutes. Like it was burned away. So essential oils Lavender, Frankincense and Turpentine seem to be effective. Also a friend share that if you use lavender there is no scarring and sure enough one scabbed over and is back to normal one the scab fell off.
I would also like to mention that where I picked the scab in the first place created Keloids, where I didn't pick the scabs and let them heal or didn't let the water wash the scab away the skin looks normal. So I know now what to do! Don't pick the scab and cover with Lavender.
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