I am using the borax/peroxide remedie for my rosacea skin (I heard baking soda and peroxide works wonders too). But I am afraid it will harm my skin on the long run or worse, it will be unhealthy on the long run?
I also get a headache systematically after the lemon baking soda remedy. What can be the cause of that?
Thank you very much.
Janice
Tea Tree Oil
I have controlled redness of rosacea considerably with a dilute solution of cider vinegar- I had to experiment with strength 50/50 Apple Cider Vinegar (ACV) filtered water- as I have sensitive skin. I dab my face with ACV solution after cleasing with sensitive skin cleanser- after the ACV dries I then follow this with yogurt face mask- just dab live youghurt on and leave it about half an hour. I have been amazed at the way this maintains a redction in redness. I also ocassionally use lavender oil or Tea Tree. Look also on this site for Ted's remedy for rosacea- hope this helps.
Tea Tree Oil
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Chinese Medicinal Herbs
Thanks, Jordan
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide
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update on my skin - skin is all clear of rosacea! its unbelievable how i did not discover this last winter. my rosacea typically occurs during winter. i stopped using the borax for the moment but i'm thinking of doing it every other day.
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide
I kinda know, like to take probotics and digestive enzymes, but would love to read the article you are refering to.
This is a first, as for me hearing about Dr. Johnathan Wright, I also have been watching Dr. Richard Becker on TV and find his show informative and I know you have mentioned Dr. Linus Pauling. I searced for Dr. Pauling and came to a website, and I think they wanted you to join or something sign up maybe...I perfer to just click on, like we do here and read...
Thanks in advanced, Joyce!
Hello Robert Henry... I know what you mean about different approaches that different healers have, for instance I see alot on here about SOY and SOY LETHICIN and I have found several articles other places that condem the use of SOY PRODUCTS... It seems that Natural healers agree to disagree on many things. I know Dr Andrew W. Saul recomends very high doses of Niacin for depression, not Nicimade and I have read that Niacin is absolutly terriable for the liver. I know you, yourself have said you eat know animal organs and Ted and Robert Von Sarbacher recommend Beef Liver for certain things....It does get confusing at times. Always something different from different healers.
Chamomile Tea, Rubbing Alcohol, Tea Tree Oil
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About four months ago I had my first bout of rosacea. I had a few episodes of redness that lasted a few minutes on my face and tips of my ears before but until a few months ago it always went away on it 's own. My first bout was pretty bad as it was mainly my chin that was red and stayed red. I used make up during the day to cover it and that worked. At night I would tone it after washing with cold camomille tea and tea tree oil. This did lessen the burning feeling and the redness a bit but not by much.
My rosaacea, three months later, is now at the point almost completely gone. Here is what I have been doing. I noticed a dramatic change right away and hopefully this will work for you as well.
1. Every night, after washing my face I apply a homemade toning solution made of 1 cup cammomille tea, 1/2 cup rubbbing alcohol and about 10-15 drops of tea tree oil. I apply it with a make-up sponge, completely covering the red areas twice. I leave it on overnight. After a week of this, the redness was reduced by at least 80%. I'm still a bit pink and have flushing but nothing out of the ordinary and the flushing subsides. My skin is also super smooth, blemish free and very soft now, a bonus!
2. I stopped eating soy sauce and vinegar as I always would get redness after eating food with these ingredients.
3. I ate alot of root vegetables, citrus fruit and bananas, foods high is potassium and vitamin C. I gained five pounds but my rosacea did really noticably reduce. I plan of losing the weight and hopefully my rosacea will not return as well.
4. Other things I did that I don't normally do is I ate alot of spicy foods once (vegan Kimchee), and applied a commonly prescribed rosacea cream three times. The cream felt funny and has perservatives so I stopped. I don't know if this had an affect but it may have helped. Spicy foods is supposed to aggravate rosacea but it seemed to have the opposite affect for me.
So far this regime has had a dramatic affect on my rosacea. I will update you in a few months and let you know if this is just a temporary solution or if for me it's a real cure.
Thought you might be interested in alternative Dr. Jonathan Wright's theory that when you develop a skin problem, look to your gut (gastrointestinal tract). When you also look at the opinion that 75% or more of our immune system's work is done in the intestines, this could very well be right. Also all the EC'ers who report that taking ACV relieves acid regurg or GERD, adds to this, because his theory is that acid regurg is caused not by an excess of hydrocholoric acid but to a deficiency of it.
I also remember reading that the purpose of our pets licking their wounds is that the passage of the pathogens through their GI tracts is what forms the antibodies against the pathogens, which would seem to enforce the theory of much of the immune system function is performed in our intestines.
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I think this is wise advice, Robert. I am beginning to think that rosacea is a symptom of sub-par health. Consequently, when one's health improves, so should one's rosacea. When i refer to health, i mean internal health. That said, i think it is still advantageous to apply gels/creams/ointments to one's face. A lot of evidence points to the cause of rosacea as a deficiency of vitamin b2 (riboflavin) and sulfur (MSM), two things which i have been supplementing my diet with as of late. While the literature suggests that these are not an immediate cure, they seem to work overtime and tackle the root of the problem, which should be the goal, that is, eliminating the cause.
Another thing which i suspect may provoke rosacea is mercury amalgams, as they could release too much mercury into one's body. I have not read too much from people in terms of whether removing mercury amalgams had any positive impact on their rosacea, though i am very interested in finding out.
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide
I now think you never cure yourself. You just have to control them. I have found that Tee Tree Oil is the compound which best controls the situation. It is critical that you apply your concoction inside your nose because there is where your hair follicles are. I use hydrogen peroxide, vitamin e oil, tee tree oil and borax. I wash my hair with a coal tar shampoo and rinse with a saturated solution of Borax. All these things are anti-fungals.
The statement that only hydrogen peroxide and borax will cure dog mange is laughable. My dad cured my dogs in the 40's with sulfur, old motor oil and boric acid. I know the site owners get perturbed with me because of my challenges. My response is that if you can't stand the heat, then don't go in the kitchen. Readers won't understand this remark, but they do.
Regardless, this is a great site , just question what you read. There are a lot of posters with unique knowledge like Ted and Joyce, but I find holes sometimes in what they say. Caveat Emptor. I also think lots of posters get tunnel vision with the treating symptoms. Go after your total health first. Then the symptoms will sometimes go away.
If this spiel comes out bad, just blame it on an old man's rumblings.
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Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide
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BETTER BUT WITH SIDE EFFECTS
I had a post here earlier on how Hydrogen Peroxide (HP), tea tree oil and drinking baking soda worked for me. It did and then i stopped drinking the baking soda (instead i drank Apple Cider Vinegar) and then stopped washing my face with HP. after i stupidly changed my routine my rosacea came back with a vengeance right when the temperature dropped!
so that's my fault. before i used to wash my face with diluted tea tree and HP (i just eyeball the measurements... maybe 1 tsp tea tree and 2 or more table spoons of HP in 10 cups of water) and then stopped.
after that huge breakout, i tried Ted's remedy of saturated borax, HP, drinking borax and baking soda. over the weekend it was horrible. its now thursday and my skin is again normal! it would have cleared up earlier also i think since the first few batches i did of saturated borax i put toooooo much HP which burned my skin!! and i think by monday/tuesday the redness might have been more because of the burn. i wish someone had mentioned not to put too much HP (i tend to overdose i suppose) lol. but yes, the remedy worked. if its in the correct prescribed measurements, the borax does not sting at all. my bed is just real sandy now since i slept with the borax on my face.
my plan now is to keep putting it on at night, drink HP. I also drink ACV for my insomnia and general health.
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I tried them all as well as Borax which I did only once because of my skin sensitivity.
anyway, whatever i had been doing worked!. redness has gone and also the cystic pimples. no flushing, a few patches of dry skin are still on my forehead but it could my usual eczema.
I wash my face everyday with water and hydrogen peroxide diluted in the water. every other day i'll add tea tree oil into the water. when my face is still wet, i'll put Eucerin (heavy cream) on. I also use an acne lamp for about 20 min each night.
i think the hydrogen peroxide and tea tree oil had been a great help.
i also drink water with baking soda almost everyday.
Vitamin C and Lysine
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Hi, I'm new to this site, and came here for Thrush remedy, which after 2 weeks, is now all but gone. Oh, but even though I got the thrush from a very stressful situation on top of a terrible freshly baked bread 2-week splurge...MY ROSACEA DID NOT COME BACK!
THIS IS KIND OF LONG, BUT I THOUGHT I MIGHT AS WELL GIVE YOU THE WHOLE SHEBANG AT ONCE
I've had Rosacea all my life..the systemic kind: blushing, red spots, papules that expel waxy cheese...the whole thing. Horrible, embarrassing and painful ( I felt like I had a bad sunburn a lot of the time...I would be out having fun, and could not wait to get home and jump into the cool shower--face was covered with grease, beet red and yet dry and burned feeling) In other words, I had the whole thing.
I tried everything OTC and from dermatologists . Nothing worked and many made it worse.
I avoided "facials" like the plague, because they often left me red-faced for a month afterward.
About 8 years ago I had an ayurvedic facial ( can I say Dr Hauschka?) anyway, very expensive, but I was desperate and someone recommended. The facialist(?) saw me and immediately told me what to do...
I did use the products ($$$!) for about 1 year, but since then have developed my own protocol which keeps things at bay. I still treat myself to the products about once a year, and use monthly as a "facial treatment" instead of a daily thing.
So, if you can afford the Dr H whole shebang, I say go for it...if not, keep reading, because I've developed a less expensive routine for my long-term use.
Okay, here's what works for ME:
1)STOP IRRITATING THE SKIN
stop all scrubbing, rubbing, hotsteaming, reaming, pinching and anything that is not gentle to your face and rest of body. Think of your skin as a fragile little baby that needs coddling and care! Use products you make or buy that support skin.
2)AVOID TEMPERATURE EXTREMES
wash with tepid or cool water, never ever sauna--use steamroom only for short times, don't shock system with any hot/cold treatments. Shower tepid, avoid long hot baths (sorry!), don't get sunburned.
3) EAT AS HEALTHY AS YOU CAN AND TAKE YOUR VITAMINS!
Avoid hot, spicy foods--even the ones that are good for you, like ginger. (I use ginger/hot pepper once in a while when treating colds, etc..careful, sparingly)
Eat all the veg you can and drink water all day long.
TED'S LEMON ALKALIZER? FANTASTIC!! I used to use just lemon juice, but I am trying this now.
4) USE SKIN PRODUCTS AYURVEDIC/HOMEOPATHIC OR HOMEMADE --some OTC are OK--read the labels like a nut, even if you have to use a magnifying glass in the stores! I often write to companies and ask them to send me entire lists of ingredients in products...very good results. Sometimes you can find OTC creams, lotions that have the great ingredients in them ( quality oils, vitamins, etc) these are easier to use. I have found several reasonably priced ones here in Africa. I put them on before I go out if I don't want to look too "greasy".
5)HERE ARE MY LOW-COST ALTERNATIVES IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD THE HIGH-END DR. H!
a) WASH
wash type 1:
2 part almond meal (buy or grind raw almonds)
1 part dried ground orange peel (just buy one organic orange, peel it and dry out the peel
1 part dry milk.
Mix a little of this powder with water or milk or yoghurt and pat onto face. Gently rub to wash, or let it dry and gently rub off ( takes off more oil). Rinse with cool/tepid water.
wash type 2: (gentler)
Mix the above with plain yoghurt ( full cream is nice) or heavy cream. Option add: few drops lavender oil and/or drop or two of tea tree. Experiment, start with just the lavender. Rub gently or let sit for a couple of minutes while you relax ( if time) or wear into shower and wash off at the end.
TONERS:
type 1: Mix pure witch hazel ( no alcohol!)and real rosewater (no alcohol!) with a few drops of lavender oil and dilute with water. Or, add a few drops of rose oil istead of the rosewater. Keep in a spray bottle and spritz on face after washing. Start with maybe a few ounces of the Witch hazel and find a solution strength that leaves your face feeling clean, but not tight and dry. You can also add tea tree (sparingly) or geranium essential oil. Experiment a little bit...this is what worked for me. The lavender, rose and witch hazel are the mainstays. Rub on a few drops of cocoanut or soy oils and let air dry. Do not wipe off!
MOISTURIZE:
type 1(emergency cool and moisturize): Put heavy cream mixed or whipped with lavender oil on face and leave on for a few minutes. Wipe off and spray with the toner. this is good for flareups, sunburns and upsets.
type 2: glycerine, lavender and rose oil. Hey, it works for me! Mix a dab of this with enough water to cover the face lightly. Experiment until it does not feel too greasy. I sometimes toss a little ACV water (very dilute) on top of this, especially in hot weather.
type 3: a few drops of coconut and soy oils put on face damp from toner.
MOISTURE AND SOOTHER TREATMENTS:
type 1: whip heavy cream add few drops oil and leave on for 10 minutes while you put your feet up or bathe.
type 2: Take half an avocado, mush it up very soft and smooth (no lumps) add some lemon juice--take enough to cover, then add few drops lavender oil and put it all over your face, head hair and neck. If you cover your whole head with this..it feels fantastic and soothes, cools and moisturizes all at once. Go outside or maybe lay in tub...it's a little messy. Leave on for 10-15 minutes ( don't let it dry too much or it's hard ot get off)...this is my FAVORITE one, and I use it daily during avo season! You can make guacamole with the extra!
EMERGENCY SOOTHER TREATMENT:
Mix plain yoghurt with pureed apple and put all over face and body and head and hair(if you have time to wash up fully afterward, if not, just do the skin parts, but the full-head treatment is very cooling! Leave it on for 15 minutes or longer if you want. Relax while it is working. Roll yourself in a clean sheet (washed in borax, not detergent!) and then follow with a tepid shower and put a little lavender mixed with soy or coconut oil all over wet skin and maybe give face another yoghurt/lavender oil treatment if it is still very irritated. Keep cool!
BROKEN VEIN AREAS:
I have had very good luck with rubbing a little straight lavender oil on the worst spots. A recent one absolutely cleared up with this treatment.
SUNSCREENS:
I am in Africa, so I have to load up, and sometimes they irritate. I am just experimenting with making my own using zinc oxide added to a gentle face cream with soy. Let you know. It's hard to find the raw ingredients here--they cost a fortune or are unavailable or suspiciously unregulated.
NIGHTTIME HINTS:
1) have a clean pillowcase every night! or at least turn the pillowcase so that a clean side is up and change every other night. Wash bedding in borax, or special laundry soap from health food store. Add a couple drops lav oil to rinse.
OTHER HINTS FROM MY EXPERIENCE AND HUMBLE OPINION:
1. NEVER do "hot" or bikram yoga..nearly 3 months to get red out of my face!
2. don't eat spicy foods
3. don't drink every day -I have champagne about 1x a week and it seems OK. Hey, I'm in Africa,home of the sundowner!
4.stand on your head, or learn easier yoga inversion..it makes your face red..then clears it up!
THIS IS WHAT WORKS FOR ME!
You don't have to use everything, but key is the washing protocol. And the yoghurt, I think. This is a great book for more ayurvedic ideas... Absolute Beauty by Pratima Raichur.
I am just about to start Ted's borax/H202 treatment to get rid of THE LAST active papule I have on my chest. It is invisible for years, but still there, so is a great experimental spot! Let you all know.
BEST BEST OF LUCK TO ALL OF YOU RED-FACED FRIENDS OUT THERE...and thank you for sharing
The brand I used is Ricesteele in Tallaght for both. Borax was only available from these and I rang the company in Dublin and checked that it is pure borax with nothing added. They said it is. I checked their peroxide for stabilisers as per Teds instructions (HP:Water 1:9 and leave on a windowsill in sunshine to look for yellow colour......waited 5 days for sunshine) and it stayed clear.
I'm afraid you will only be able to get small quantities. 100g of borax and 250ml hp.
If you ever find it in larger quantities please let me know where as I hate buying on the internet and believe in buying local anyway.
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Where is the best place to get borax and HP from over the counter in Ireland, I have Rosacea mostly over my face and area and would be very interested to try the mix suggested in this forum.
Apple Cider Vinegar, Tea Tree Oil
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I drink 4 ounces of water with 1 tablespoon of ACV twice per day (with breakfast and dinner), plus I use a cotton ball and gently swabbed the ACV all over my face, including around my hairline and down onto my neck. After about 10 days my rosacea improved by about 70%. I continued to do this for about two more weeks and my skin continued to improve, but the bumps did not completely disappear (about 90% of them did).
I began to add one drop of tea tree oil to my moisturizer at night and after 1 week my rosacea symptoms were gone... no more redness, no more bumps. At this point I am doing the following:
- drinking the ACV twice daily
- adding tea tree oil to my moisturizer about 5-6 nights per week
- using ACV topically on my face once per week
- changing my pillowcase twice per week and flipping it over after about 2 nights
I also wanted to mention that I was using a cleanser that exfoliated and I switched to a more natural, gentle cleanser and I think it also helped a lot. I am also avoiding moisturizer that has alpha-hydroxy and use a sunscreen with zinc.
Apple Cider Vinegar
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Tea Tree Oil
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WARNING
When I was panting the underside of my nose the bristles flicked upwards splashing a tiny bit in my eye and it really burned. Be very careful around your eyes.
Good luck to all.
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But the reaction is just opposite of what was expected.
Now it has affected my complete face ( full cheeks) and is getting worst with each day.
Please sugest, should I discontinue it?
I really want to get rid of rosacea :-(
Evening Primrose Oil
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Borax
I have taken acv using the water I prepared with the boraxed water and had no adverse reactions. Ted has done a list of the combination that are ok and what not to mix somewhere on this site. Search Ted's Combination List.
Chinese Medicinal Herbs
Borax
I've read a lot of posts in this forum about treaments for rosacea, like taking 1 tablespoon of ACV 3xs a day diluted in a cup of either juice or water. Or, by taking borax in water. Has anyone done BOTH? Is it dangerous to do both? I'm so desperate to try something -- just not sure what to do first!
Am trying the ACV topically tonight, along w/ the Aloe. Hoping for some improvement soon.
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide
EC: More about Borax: https://www.earthclinic.com/remedies/borax.html
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide
Thanks! I have been using this only on my face for about a week and I notice my nose is less red. I am wondering if it makes sense to take borax with apple cider vinegar as one is an acid and the other a base. Wouldn't they neutralize each other out?
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Manuka Honey
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Multiple Remedies
Multiple Remedies
Colloidal Copper
EC: The first poster used Colloidal Copper.
On a separate note, we just found an interesting article from 1913 on Colloidal Copper for Cancer in the NYTimes.com archives!
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide
I would be interested to know the quantities that you are using as you say that after two weeks you cant see a difference. I noticed a difference the first day and it slowed down after that. Although I never had any pustule or lumps of any kind I had the redness and crawling feeling of the mites along with intermittant severe flushing. All I have left is a lot of broken blood vesels which I believe is damage caused by the mites. Maybe the effects on your skin has been different and it may take longer or slight alteration of the remedy.
Bring your remedy with you when you go away, but pack it in your suitcase not your hand luggage. I did this and it was fine. At the most you will arrive at the other end without it. And by the way wear a sunhat if you are going someplace warm as there is not point getting sundamage after all the hard work of getting rid of the mites. Best wishes
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide
While treating the problem naturally, I also use natural mineral powder make-up which covers all signs of blemishes giving an even natural tone to the skin.It is applied with a brush- as it is in powder form. It does look good and it has given me confidence when I go out as no one would know you have rosacea. This make-up is made of minerals Micas, Titanium oxide, Zinc oxide, iron oxide, rice powder, kaolin-it does not iritate sensitive skin and acts as a sunscreen sun factor 15. If you buy mineral make-up check there is nothing else added like fillers such as Bismuth or talc as these are iritants.
It is a struggle but keep fighting. Some people take the anti-oxydent L-lysine - I am considering trying this- I think it is mentioned for rosacea on htis site. Hope this helps.
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide
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lavender oil around the eyes inmproved my condition 90 %
EC: Thanks for the feedback! Are you using lavender oil for dark circles or another condition?
I continue to switch out my pillow cases, using once, flipping it over, then changing to a new clean pillow case.
I have found that the best results I get come from meditation. If I meditate regularly, my rosacea becomes almost non-existent. Stress really is a factor.
Others may be happy to hear that I have chatted with 2 other rosacea sufferers and all 3 of us concur that dairy does NOT aggravate rosacea. Eat cheese, drink milkshakes and be merry!