I have a confirmed case of scabies and it has been 8 months of trying to get rid of it. I have tried everything i.e., medicines and natural treatments but none of these cure it only temporary fix. The disease has gone above my neck and is in my hair and I have had them on my face as well. This has been the challenge. I copied down a recipie from Ted's Earth Clinic and wanted to know if this will kill the mites in my hair as well. I'm a little reluctant to use DMSO because I heard controversial things about it. Here is Ted's recipie: Also, have done the Borax & peroxide rinse in the hair. It helps but does not cure it. Below is Ted's recipie. Any other advice would be welcomed. I am at my wits end with this and suffering greatly. A response would be appreciated.
Questions:
1. How do you measure 2.5%, 4% or 5% I.e. tablespoons or teaspoons?
2. how long do you leave it on and for what duration time?
3. Does this treatment get put on the body as well as the scalp?
PLEASE ADVISE.
Ted's comment: All oils are carrier oils, but their penetrant ability is limited, except for DMSO...I have found castor oil mixed with DMSO to be good - 25% castor oil and 75% DMSO. Then you can mix it with mustard powder, mustard oil, or d limonene at, say, 2.5%. That will take care of killing the mites. Plus, you add, say, 4% or 5% lavender oil. They're the approximate numbers I calculate
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
EC: 3%
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
Bleach and Water
chlorinated
Not sure if "non-chlorinated" bleach is real bleach. I put one or two cups of bleach in the bathtub, about the same hydrogen peroxide, then fill up the tub.
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
Borax and Baking Soda Scrub
Worked for me but I had to shave.
Scabies vs. Morgellons
I am referring to the bugs that carry the bacteria.
Could anyone tell me what substances they use?
Their lifecycle?
Multiple Remedies
Materials (things I used, for methods/application see detail below or look at posts from others)
Drop cloths (plastic) for furniture (pack of 3 best value at Walmart) Tape to secure drop cloths on furniture Tack mats (use shelf paper upside down, taped to floor with blue tape) Clean room tack mats avail online, but sometimes hard to get quickly delivered. Swiffers Bleach wipes Clorox cleanup Latex gloves, disposable one use only Ziplock bags Marker Towels small (Walmart has 12 for $15 in the car wash isle, I used these for the showers instead of washing lots of large towels after one use Towels, medium ( hair, showers) Bleach for laundry wash Scotch packing tape to collect bugs (clear is good for microscope review, can bring samples to doctor) Lice gel treatment - took to using this on whole body, then shower. Walmart had large bottles. Cleaned and reused combs, was nice to have a stable of clean combs to grab. Rx permethrin RxTriamcinolone. 1% Rx Hydrocortisone 2.5% just caused caking of cream on skin and caused patient to just feel hot. Sarna skin original cream (normal has like. Cooling camphor in it, sensitive has no cooling gent. Cooling gents like c phor in creams are not well tolerated by kids, they tend to get cold and cannot tolerate term until bath, even warm bath water is colder when the creamed skin hits the bath. Sarna skin sensitive cream, better for kids. Sulfur soap. Sulfur soap felt nice on skin, but scaled up the shower door with residue. Hand sanitizer Orange oil Tea tree oil Coconut oil Sulfur cream 10%(best was de la cruz sulfur ointment posada de azure 10%) best cost was Walmart or cvs. Mothballs or moth ice Vacuum bags or space saver bags Trash bags Foot powder borax bran iodide ( Walgreens) Walgreens fast acting odorless analgesic crime, trolamine salicylate 10%, inactive ingredient aloe barbadensis leaf extract, Cheryl alcohol, glycerin, mineral oil, potassium phosphate, propyl paraben steric acid, triethanolamine, water, (did not work as well as muscle rub to quit the bug skin sensation) Muscle rub ultra strength Walgreen s brand (active ingredients: camphor 4%, menthol , methyl salicylate 30%', inactive ingresdientss: carbomer, dis odium EDTA, glyceryl lstearate SE, lanolin, ploys ornate 80, potassium hydroxide, steric acid, trolls mine, water Concepts This is ALL OUT WAR. It will have costs, waste generation and some casualties lost. Get a calendar, note dates of treatment, doctor visits, any other details of the day: what treatments were done This will help you remember ( this situation often feels like Groundhog Day, lonely, hard work, volume of things to do) Note any creams used on whom and number of times per day of showers, creams, oils, etc When something changes for better or worse or to show progress the calendar visual is very helpful It also helps as a communication tool with doctors who do not know how you feel and do not understand the depression, manic feelings and urgency that the patient feels. It helps guide the discussion. It helps they understand you situation timeline. Push for immediate appt s with dermatologist or other doctors, the delay in a dermatologist appt caused some of the explosion of this population after the primary doc timed the treatments wrong. Dermatologists like the easy schedule of their practice (primadonas) , often they see no urgency (until of course you are in their office and they see you then they act ingratiatingly urgent. Otherwise be prepared that most doctors don't care or get it or understand the disease. They are detached and just following a script, despite very contagious and the need for the patient to stay away from work and daycare. If you don't get the treatment right the first time, permethrin treatments Rx is expensive because the pharmacy coverage is considering one tube per month. Despite requirement to use it in one day and then a week layer again all one day. There are a lot of out of pocket expenses here. Minimize your costs by managing the care provider, be firm, tell them what you need don't expect them to know or understand the strict all-out-warfare protocols. Make sure doctor knows to prescribe one tube for each person in house, even if the other family members are not seen. All housemates need treatment. Rx only covers a tube per person. Get greedy to request or force another tube, if you spill it, you won't have enough. If they won't prescribe for a spouse, call the spouses doctor immediately, tell the doctor what was diagnosed and what you were prescribed and get them to call in a prescription for the other family members. There are different permethrin manufacturers. The Targets pharmacy permethrin (Actvis mid atlantic llc brand) was more liquidy and easier to spread. Cvs (Perrigo brand) pharmacies have more creamy, thicker application. Harder to spread and cover everything. Disability coverage by employer for adult is helpful to cover child care issues. Child cannot mix with other kids when infected. Dermatologists charge to complete employer forms for disability coverage. My child and I had scabies, she could not go to school. At least I got the doctor to understand that I should be kept home with scabies and not impact my coworkers. Being able to care for my child when no other care was available was helpful. Did not have vacation available to use. Dermatologist do not know how to fill company disability forms out. Ensure you carefully check the paperwork. Ensure they know they cannot charge you for incorrectly completing the paperwork. Do not let them go or leave their office until you submit the paperwork via fax or make them fax it, look it over for correctness yourself, and get your company nurse or hr rep to approve the paperwork. Dermatologists take their time correcting their errors and it can affect your employers system, discipline tolerance, etc. Nurse practitioners at work who know your case through hr can help prescribe follow ups if needed because of a negligent Dermatologist. The disruption of sleep during this infestation also affects your mind and mental state. Realize that you are the only advocate for your child. No one else cares about your kid unless you make them act. Dermatologist just want you and your infested cloud out of their office. You are there because you are sick, they would rather have patients with appointments for Botox or other high dollar treatments. General actions: Couches & mattresses & seats wiped with bleach wipes Heat treat everything in dryer Everything in bags (all toys, all clothes, rugs, pillows, blankets, ) Vacuum bags (space saver bags) with moth balls Full utilization of washer /dryer, use and schedule with little down time. I even woke up through the night to do another load. All toys that cannot be wiped need to be put away in bags for 1-2 months or more. Kid won't miss it. Kid to take a bath, with three oil treatment Keep asking them if they are itchy Bleach garage floor, entry steps Bleach driveway or other approach Control areas of clean laundry, everything is one way, if it falls on the floor or touched some untreated thing, it goes back to the beginning of the treatment process. We had one bedroom for washed clothes, stuff. Treatment bags or toys in bags were in garage Furniture use was managed to minimize cleaning certain areas everyday. Laundry baskets were either wiped or if collapsible, they were placed in dryer then post treatment used for clean clothes. Collapsible laundry baskets from ikea were more durable than 99cent store. Both fit in Dryer. Clean treated Laundry baskets did not touch floor where dirty laundry or other infested area They would carry clean clothes sheets then collect the sheets the next day and go to garage and get treated. Garbage bags also were used for collecting laundry in waiting. My thought was that critters that could weaken and drop off would then attach to feet, socks, other items and cling to life. If they were stuck in a bag waiting for washing the. They were contained. Always think CONTAINMENT, LIKE OUTBREAK! Stay away from used areas +3 days (most info says these things die in 24 hours without a meal, but I have experienced different and some web info cites studies where female mites lived 96 hours! ) Razors and Luffas one use or bleach treat Combs bleach treated. Pillows mattresses covered in plastic cases. (bed bath beyond) Furniture contained in plastic drop clothes. Car seats had to be treated or quarantined to stop bug life cycle. Car seats that could not be left for a week without use has to be covered. Plastic Drop cloths were disposable, or beach towels one use cover and wash in hot. All day work agenda is to tackle the mountain of household items to clean, treat, heat treat, bag and wipe. And swiffer at least 3x a day Replace tac mats, use tac mts to wipe feet, deduce floor debris, tracking, travel of bugs. Wash clothes in very hot Increase water heater temp Wash clothes inside out many times. Wash all socks and underwear in hot with bleach or agents Contain shoes in bags with moth ice Heat treat shoes as possible Shoes and clothes may shrink, casualties of war. Contact potential affected people: hotels, baby sitters, schools, close family. Tell them what to watch for so they can act on treatment. Stay away from hospitals, eldercare centers, scabies is very contagious and tough to manage in those facilities. Protect your loved ones by keeping away from them. Keep samples each day of anything found. Mark in dated bags, location taken from This also helped gauge when things get better. Our experience was many relapse episodes unfortunately. After fighting the initial time it got better but then the backlash of not properly containing clothes, hair, etc. Caused a relapse. I realized after doing everything the doctor said for weeks, that I felt bites on feet and back where my hair had just been combed out. My scalp was not itchy, but whatever was dropping onto my back in microscopic size was a vector. Plus my husbands shirts might be dropping mites who then lived. We found the vectors to be hidden in our hair, scalp, floors. Once we attacked the scalp spot on top of the kids head and the hair bands and the increased frequency of swiffer (so glad we don't have carpet! ) Treated hair Contained dry cleaning shirts Swiffer until the swiffer sheets are clean Tied hair in buns for over 8 months Then final change toward recovery and improvement was when contained hair and floors and clean room criteria. Meds or skin treatments Rx: Permethrin 5% a tube per adult, some left over from kids tube apply for neck to toes, get under nails and in ALL spaces, cracks. They say 8 hours, but in one treatment towards the end of many unsuccessful treatments, we left it on for 24 hours. Permethrin also had Cooling tingly affect, unsure if this was nerve response or the meds acting. We also did lice body shampoos Lice gel treatment - took to using this on whole body, then shower. Walmart had large bottles. Cleaned and reused combs, was nice to have a stable of clean combs to grab. Dermatologistskept trying to soothe skin with Rx for: Triamcinolone. 1% Hydrocortisone 2. 5% just caused caking of cream on skin and caused patient to just feel hot. Dermatologist office also tried to sell Saran for double the Walmart cost. $20 a bottle, I returned it, I would have guessed then that they resell possibly used and returned bottles. They were not surprised I returned the bottles or that I was angry at the rip off. Sarna skin original cream (normal has like. Cooling camphor in it, sensitive has no cooling gent. NOTE: Cooling agents like camphor in creams are not well tolerated by kids , they tend to get cold and cannot tolerate term until bath, even warm bath water is colder when the creamed skin hits the bath. Sarna skin sensitive cream, better for kids. Sulfur soap felt nice on skin, but scaled up the shower door with residue. Multi layer treatment, (recommended by web folks who said permethroin did not work. ) made black things come out of skin. Put in layers over whole body. Get help, for your back. Hand sanitizer Orange oil Tea tree oil Blue magic Coconut oil Left these on for about an hour then showered and sometimes followed with sulfur cream It is killing these bugs but also Both oils and sulfur creams caused the skin to expel black stuff. I agree this must be the bugs dead and leaving. I Liked tea tree oil and it soothed the skin. Orange oil smells nicer, bugs did NOT like orange and tea tree oils. Enjoyed the thought of winning small battles with orange and tea tree oils. Also the sulfur cream. Felt like they were suffering. Some of these smell bad, segregate clothes you will wear with these creams and oils. Eventually the sulfur smell and tea tree smells go away, after many washes, but the relief is worth the smell. Sulfur cream, get help for back. Some blogs said to put on for a hour. In some cases I got desperate and left it on all day. Again calendar helps keep facts straight. At some point my trusted doctor and my replacement good dermatologist agreed that the mites were likely not there and I was dealing with nerve sensations. Long after the initial scrapes of diagnosis, and treatments, I saw bumps and lesions. I had 3 biopsies, each time they cut 3 spots, 9 cuts and none showed infection. I paid a lot for the biopsies and their analysis. Learned eventually that skin healing response can produce these bumps. It is part of the response to the medicine and also the bugs. Also going bck to work, some of my clothes were tight and the skin response to tight clothes was to create its own lesions nd bumps. At this point I resorted to treating the sensations. Some of the web posts stated: kill scabies in five minutes..... So I tried it. Rub down with muscle rub and then go take a bath with foot powder. Materials listed below: Foot powder borax bran iodide ( Walgreens) Walgreens fast acting odorless analgesic crime, trolamine salicylate 10%, inactive ingredient aloe barbadensis leaf extract, Acetyl alcohol, glycerin, mineral oil, potassium phosphate, propyl paraben steric acid, triethanolamine, water, (did not work as well as muscle rub to quit the bug skin sensation) Muscle rub ultra strength Walgreen s brand (active ingredients: camphor 4%, menthol , methyl salicylate 30%', inactive ingresdientss: carbomer, dis odium EDTA, glyceryl lstearate SE, lanolin, ploys ornate, 80 potassium hydroxide, steric acid, troloamine, water Notes on kids Sarna skin cream (normal has like. Cooling camphor in it, sensitive has no cooling agent. ) Cooling agents like camphor in creams are not well tolerated by kids , they tend to get cold and cannot tolerate them until bath, even warm bath water is colder when the creamed skin hits the bath. Kid management: explain bug infestation Ask if they can help, kids love to help swiffer. Set standard that the "doctor says" must do medicines, creams, baths, cleaning, toy a quarantine time, etc Buy them a swim cap for hair treatments, character caps help too. They can use wipes to help clean while you use Clorox wipes They can help clean bathtub No stuffed toys for a while, they are " in the laundry" Use google images to demonstrate the sickness. Notes: on additional controls and responses. Known to infest just skin, not scalp, however, I found an infestation on my daughters scalp (3 yo) only infants supposedly get scalp infestation....... Hmmmm..... We had scalp stuff. Also noticed that it felt like critters on my back falling from hair. Like biting on my back immediately 10 mins post shower and lice treatment on hair. Felt like these had gotten into our hair by retreating to un-permethrin treated areas also hair bands/ scuunccii on floor had collected and harbor end critters. Mom Treated scalps of mom and daughter with permethrin, told doctors, although we were told it was not needed. Shortened daughters hair to minimize combing about shoulder length. Pediatrician Rx sklice for scalp treatment, new technique and was $80 with prescription coverage. Also felt like critters on floor from clothes, skin, wherever, and they keep cycling onto person Noticed that doing laundry, I felt bites on my feet start when I got near laundry pile. Contained husbands dry cleaning inside large plastic bags so no critters could drop and move. Quarantined this clothing in garage with more tarp underneath. Purse and gym bags with cleats, heart rate straps, watches, etc all infected. All isolated, treated, etc. Sensations Felt itchy, crawly, ears, top of head, nose, toes, armpits, waistband. Bra bands, etc. Permethrin felt cooling when applied. I felt it more than husband. The relief sensation was comforting and addicting. This may be caused by nerve agent nature of the drug. As nerves healed over time, tingling and bug sensation would occur. When done, wear loose clothes for 6-8 months or tight clothes will cause skin response similar to scabies, lesions that is simply an immune response. Took months for sensations to stop. The muscle cream and foot soap bath really worked like a switch to stop the tingling buggy feeling. It was terribly uncomfortable to be so cold and wet, brutal treatment, but worked. Root cause investigation thoughts: Unsure if we only had scabies or a multi infestation with other mites. Massage June 6, 2012, then went to work out. Masseuse was rookie, concerned about transfer to heart rate monitor. Possible June infection from hawaii trip Possible gym infection, possible daycare route, Daughter and mother worst infected Daughter and mother waking up all night when sensation and biting occurred. Also think there were body lice in play here Daycare friends had traveled possibly infected us, but not honest enough to alert others to the risk, No one in our house got any infection here by visiting. Baby sitters were fine. Daycare provider had heavy pubic scratching and also hospital astray hospital cancer. Also worried about work chair, put raincoat over chair and switched chairs. Bart train seats, infidelity, all possiblities that were considered. I think there was scabies, plus some other mite from the driveway fir trees. Used to get bites when sitting in pickup truck bed that has fir tree cones and debris from trees. Twice found visible bugs, not ants coming from driveway toward garage and laundry, liked sweaty clothes. Scabies are not visible, so these were other mites. Once floor controls and hair scalp was addressed, all bites stopped. Sensations continued, but camphor creams helped stop brain response. Mental Dermatologists smug over initial first treatment by primary care doc because it was a 2 week treatment, Corrected with 1 week treatment, but they also refused to accept there was another reinfection. Bites on back and feet, they said, it's not scabies, cannot help you. Second opinion dermatologist said scabies. Also other bugs were on driveway and floor, and scalp, initial dermatologist and other doctors seemed hopeless that they could not help.. This is when I realized it was all out war to quarantine everything's movement more tightly than the TSA at the airports. Doctors Refused to consider scalp, until pediatrician saw what I saw. So we switched to sklice Rx. Pediatrician was helpful and had really seen scabies so follow up bumps were discounted and patient at ease. then dermatologists were bullish when not considering the comfort level of patient, excreted bugs appearing were dismissed as dirt/debris. Bully doctors would discard the patient, prescribe more creams, just to make more money, don't care about patient. They left patient to mentally suffer. Sometimes felt like there was no future life away from scabies condition. Hopeless, very suicidal and very risky. As if they did not understand this was skin expressing the bugs out. Black things appear on these patients as commonly anecdotes on the Web, people don't all have the same story by chance. This phase exists. And the doctor treats them as crazy people. As if these black things are in their minds only. As if derms don't get that there is stuff and cannot explain what it is to a patient. They need tone able to understand and help the patient brought. Now I clearly know more than any dermatologist about scabies. That first derm office should be disciplined by the med review board. Skin issues also followed with fungus or other immune response lesions that were scary to experience as a potential comeback of the bugs. Web logs were helpful. Felt not alone. Good tips Some people wrote what their experience was as opposed to actual science, but it was helpful. ( e.g., one post said they saw moving black bugs under microscope. I found this questionable. The debris was likely bugs but they were only coming out because skin was expressing the debris. I never saw live specimens. )
I am now suffering with this last bout for the past 3 months. I am devoting most of my life to this battle. I believe scabies is an auto immune issue. I read that people lik me have too many T cells and not enough B cells and our skin can't fight off the infection.
I am doing much what you have said and very depressed. I wonder if there is somewhere I could go in house to receive in house treatment. Will do anything to wake up from this nightmare. I do not sleep in my bed with my significant other. He has 0symptoms. I sleep on the sofa covered with plastic and wash the sheets covering the sofa in hot water with borax and dry in hottest temp for 1 hr daily. My dog, that I do not touch anymore without gloves, and I will be taking Ivermectin at the same time and moving out the house. I have bought plastic shoes, and new clothes for the move. I am retired and fortunately do not have to work. I feel for those younger, and working and on a budget, because I can barely stand it and have the resources to deal with it
Bleach and Water
Bleach and Water
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General Feedback
General Feedback
General Feedback
Hey Folks, I think Scabies has hit Epidemic/Pandemic levels.
Scabies is NOT an STD, it is extremely easy to contract. You can get it by sitting on the chair as someone that has it, you can get it by shaking hands, by hugging someone, even sitting on a toilet seat.
-- Think about it, scabies like to live in protected spots of our bodies, and really love the skin between our fingers because of that. So, anything you touch can become infected and then the next person that touches said thing can catch it.
IF you have scabies you need to notify your local health department and tell them that you think it is an epidemic! They might just try to tell you to get treated and not want to talk to you but DONT let them do that!
--Health departments need to start keeping track of outbreaks and notifying/educating the public in general about scabies!
**If you're worried about it being traced back to you, give a fake name when you call or email them from an email address you set up just for that purpose. (IT's what I'm doing)
To really stop scabies EVERYONE needs to be treated, this means you(A) everyone(B) that you've been in contact with, everyone(B) that has touched something you've been in contact with, everyone(C) that has been in contact with people/things from (B), everyone(D) that has been in contact with people/things from (C) and so on.
IF this doesn't happen people that treat themselves will just get it again.
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My Story:
Like all of you here, I have scabies and like a lot of you, I've tried curing them without success. I've had them for a few years, tried treating multiple times and haven't been able to get rid of them. Either that or, I've been immediately reinfected by people around me.
I myself have a ton of shame around the fact that I've had it so long and not been able to get rid of it. I also have a ton of shame knowing that I've infected friends/family and random people around me even though I've tried to minimize my contact with people. I've massively cut down on my social life and spent the vast majority of the last few years in hiding. I just told an amazing man today that I can't have a relationship with him for 'personal reasons' because of these microscopic vampires.
Hell, I've been suicidal over it!!!
I'm quite frankly sick and tired of shaming myself over this and have decided to stop letting these pests run my life.
I've told friends, family and even written notes to clients (I work in private houses) saying whats up, the signs etc and out right had people say they didn't think they had it even though they obviously did. (IE: Animals CAN get it! Two clients had dogs that were itching like crazy, put on medication and the clients didn't believe me when I told them, even though I gave them links to info online from trusted sources).
Because of this I finally decided to contact my local health department and am going to force them to do something about it.
You should also!
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im thinking that the vinegar made things increase? im sticking with the petroleum jelly though, & use gloves on our hands all day and tape around feet and ankles and i will be trying new things as well to see what works, i wont give up untill these things are gone!!!
Clove Oil
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The bleach baths also work on the non adult ones. Very few things work when bird mites are in your scalp. I'm so confused. I dont know what I have the more I think of it. I tried borox, sulfur, bug spray hot bath, heair dryer, toothpaste before the recent post for tooth paste, tea tree oil, turpintine oil, dawn dish liquid, neem oil and soap, lemon greass oil, apple cider vinager, ivermectin horse past, Flagyl pills, bitter melon pills, olive leafe pills, Dr, Hulda Clarcks parasite cleanse with black walnut, wormwood and freash grownd cloves, sauna, two hour soak in _____ baking soda deteregent for laundry, Quassia Amuara from a lice treatement, peroxide (peroxide does get them out of my ears when I leave in for 20 min) Diatomatious earth in bedding, carpet, hair and cloths, clove oil (made my scalp peel in huge chunks) Lysol spray and toilet bowl cleaner, barbarsol, alcholol 91%, finger nail polish remover, sun laundry detergent with color safe bleach as reccamended by the morgellons page, pine tar soap, pennyroyal oil, windex on the scalp soap for dogs, advantix permetherin 45% for dogs : (
Next on the list to try, Teds Borax in water, drank all day, colloidal silver, actual pine-tar-resin, actual Balsalm of Paru oil or resin, boiled wood chips from Quassia Amaura boiled strong in water then that water simmered in oil till the water is gone and oil remains, Still using the neem oil as it messes with their reproductive cycle.
The most valuable thing you mentioned is the faith. I KNOW I will get over this scalp mite infestation! I just have to make it happen! I have a ton of lemon oil in my hair now and it is burning! ITs near the point of panic but not there yet. If it gets to be too much, NEVER use water to rinse, douce with coconut. Olive or baby oil to dilute. Learned the hard way and the water opened the pores to more inteanse burning!
Ted, if there is ever a situation where one is running out of options or ideas its here. I've tried nearly everything. Very tired now. Gonna to take a bleach bath but with out the bleach and using chlorine for swimming pools and Sodium cabonate not to be confused with sodium Bicarmonate. There is a difference. Seems like the carbonate works better.
There is no way I can heal this and not come back to post what will have worked.
later.
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just wondering if you ever found a cure for your affliction or are you still suffering and living a nightmare?
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Bleach and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
Bleach and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
Bleach and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
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Orange Oil, Rubbing Alcohol
★★★★★
start with your car, spray car with orange oil and alcohol mixture do not miss any areas, park in the sun and close all window do not return to car for 7 days.
Dry clothes and bedding, on high heat daily, be sure to spray entire living area with orange oil combined with rubbing alcohol daily. If you have carpet the orange oil will leave bleached out spots, make sure the orange oil scent overwhelms the alcohol in the mixture.
Be sure to remove all bedding, pillow cases, mattress covers etc, spray with mixture dry on high heat for at least 30 mins spray entire bed and do not sleep on bedwhile treating self and living areas for 7 days, sleep on the floor, also before going to bed cover entire bogy with orange and vaseline mixture for at least 3 days.
after seven days if possible spray entire living area of course then leave home for 2 weeks or more.
Sulphur
Sulfur soap is an alternative you can buy in the 99cent stores or drug stores. 35% is best. Until you find it, soak in the tub with borax for an hour or so and you will sleep well but you have to keep doing it.
I took the permithrin and it didn't appear to be working as they cleared and seemed to come back in my backside within the week. I took more and more (as I was worried about infecting people) and it seemed to keep them at bay, I then took ivermectin tablets first lot then 7 days later with permithrin(lyclear), we cleaned our flat everyday from the moment we realised, bagged our beds and furniture and bleached all day, let off 3 pemithrin bombs, washed everything and dried in hot dryer for min 30 minutes each day, washed clothes and soaked in tea tree oil and boiling hot water and washed toilet seat with bleach after every use. It cost a fortune! I seemed to be getting new nodules coming up on my behind again and on my arms. I was devastated. I then tried bleach baths with hydrogen pyroxide and then borax baths with hydrogen peroxide, and covered myself with clove oil and olive oil. The clove oil burned so badly it was terrible.
I then finally was referred to a dermatologist and he checked everything and said I didn't have scabies at all, by the way you cant see them at all, they are very very small and you can't see them running and they are not black, that must be something else, I was advised the new nodules coming to the surface and the severe itching as an allergic reaction to the permithrin, the sever itching and crawling feeling in my backside was also due to burning it with the soaks I was doing and the clove oil and the allergic reaction, so I stopped everything and then tried to repair my completely damaged skin. It is working, the bits I saw in the bath as I drained the water were dead skin cells, my backside is finally healing and I can now see where I have burnt it, and my nodules are disappearing. My major concern that the scabies weren't dying was incorrect, I had a severe allergic reaction to the permithrin and then I was burning my skin off with the bath soaks. I have been told the nodules may continue to show for up to a year as I have sensitive skin and I have damaged it so badly. I think I was going a little crazy and to be honest I was trying everything.
Once I stopped damaging my skin I have started to repair. My skin on my backside is now peeling off which is causing the itch. So please listen to your dermatologist, he has a microscope and could see if there were any burrows or scabies, there weren't, and I also had skin scrapings all on the new nodules that were appearing, all were clear and to be honest he was correct. the ivermectin tablets worked, so when you are diagnosed as clear, keep ensuring you clean thoroughly and ensure that you cant be reinfested. Do not visit people to infect them as it is just not a nice thing to do to anybody. And have hope that your skin is just repairing itself and has had an allergic reaction. I have read my story from 5 people on these forums, and I am hoping my story will help other people like me experiencing an allergic reaction to the pesticides to trust that you are free of these awful things and that you don't have to have bleach baths and burn your skin to get rid of them. Also tea tree oil did sooth the itch, but the clove oil has to be diluted as it burnt me so very badly.
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Your "reaction" could have something to do w/ candida die-off or herx. After yrs of debilitating struggle w/ undiagnosed fungal infection and getting worse, I tried the "foot bath zap" a few months ago and herxed for 4 days. My reaction was like yours, I became completely drained of energy and simply went into sleep mode for about 1 or 2 hrs. As for antifungal herbs, Grapefruitseed extract is the best imho. Caprylic acid or simply coconut oil is very good antifungal.
Hope this helps.
Permethrin
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Red Lavender Tincture
Red Lavender Tincture
Borax, Hydrogen Peroxide, Clove Oil
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Hi everyone. I want to first state that it seems everyone has different outcomes with their treatment of scabies. I used the Borax/H2O2 bath soaks for 4 days with no improvement of my rash. It got worse. The itching was relieved for approx. 4-6 hours after the bath soaks, but the rash continued to spread down my arms and legs and up my neck. On the 4th day we decided to try permethrin. That was yesterday. Today my rash is still visible but with great improvement. Nearly all redness is gone ( except in the severe areas) and most of the itch is gone as well. My skin feels like sandpaper where the bumps are but looks let irritated. I plan on using the second dose of perm in 7 days as directed on my script. I will update my post if anything has changed. I hope my post will help someone, anyone who is battling with this infliction.
God Bless.
Clove Oil
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http://www.cnia.inta.gov.ar/helminto/Foro 07/in vivo e in vitro resistencia a ivermectina.pdf
Good luck and hang in there it's not Morgellons!
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
Kindly could you advice me about the borax?! I am from uk and I can't find it in stores so while searching online I came across different types of borax starting from homemade borax to MULE team cleaning products and borax powder.
Kindly advice urgently as I am suffering with the scabies
Regards
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
20 Mule Team Borax and borax powder should be the same thing: from the 20 Mule Team site:
20 Mule Team Borax is comprised of 99.5% pure borax, a naturally occurring mineral composed of sodium, boron, oxygen, and water. (The scientific name for borax is sodium tetraborate decahydrate.)
Cheers. Good luck!
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
it has to go through your doctor you can't get on your on but even if your insurance doesn't approve this your eye doctor can send a script to this company and the cost is $30 hope this helps . ill keep u all posted.
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I desperately searched online and picked a little bit of here and there to find an immediate solution to the irritating issue. I was already following the regulations of making sure everything was thoroughly washed and dried in 2 cycles to make sure we did not continue to have issues but found out it was different procedures when it is diagnosed as scabies.
I faced my head down in the sink with hot water running and first grabbed the bottle of hydrogen peroxide and spread it evenly throughout my scalp to make sure the pores were open then I rubbed Borax all over head making sure I made the point to rub in (with gloves) thoroughly let it stand about 2 minutes before dumpling chlorine free clorox all over making sure to hit the scalp rubbed more borax in left the solution on for about 5 minutes still making sure I was facing down in the sink. After that I grabbed the citrus mouthwash (target brand) and put it all throughout scalp and hair (yes it does burn all over and more where you have scabs) left it on for 6 minutes and then washed roughly with steamy hot water (up to what you can tolerate) and then applied the Rosemary oil based shampoo by fairy tales lathered it in and washed out with warm water. I could definitely feel the difference instantly. I blow dried my hair thoroughly and went soundly to sleep. Thank you for the best solutions found on this website woo hoo!
I sprayed everything down with chlorine free bleach/ borax solution with a little water and washed all clothes and bedding with borax and have yet to see any type of reinfecting ;0) what a relief. It has been 2 weeks of nothing yupie!
O yea and by the way the tried getting to my hands and arms and they did manage to get some bites but were unsuccessful because I threw hydrogen peroxide left it on for 30 seconds rinsed then rubbed borax left it on for another 30 seconds then lastly threw the citrus mouthwash and the marks and redness went away.. The best solution ever!
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
The over-the-counter Hydrogen Peroxide here is 3%; just the usual HP bought for disinfecting wounds. Hope that helps. I'm not sure how much to use, there are lots of different recipes out there.
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
Bless you all and I do hope we all get cured.
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
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Sulphur
Sulphur
Homeopathy: Psorinum 30
Homeopathy: Psorinum 30
Homeopathy: Psorinum 30
Homeopathy: Psorinum 30
Apple Cider Vinegar
Tea Tree Oil
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I did and soothed the area with tea tree oil in aloe vera gel. Today, they're recovering. I rarely get bitten so didn't recognise the lumps as bites. My husband gets bitten regularly. In fact, he was bitten in exactly the same place as me but a day earlier at work. . . Grrr
So, yes, I heartily agree with keeping infected clothes separate from other people!
Orange Oil
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15% Dr Bronners
10% sublimed sulpher
55% generic lotion
apply liberaly from chin and back of head from within the hairline, down to soles of feet 5 nights straight. hit your eyebrows and bearded areas too.
repeat this process every other week if itching persists until itching is gone (you have to understand how to clean your environment also)
natural, inexpensive and soothing. this worked for me and was like a miracle. good luck!
ps i tried alot of the others to no avail. i found this recipe and good instructions for cleaning at scabies-cure.net
Orange Oil
Thank you.
Orange Oil
Ingredients:
Orange peels. A ton.
Vinegar. Synthetic stuff is fine to use.
Water
Instructions:
1. Fill a glass jar with orange peels... [EC: due to copyright considerations, for further instructions please visit the website listed below]
I haven't tried it yet on toilets and bathtubs, but I have no doubt it will work.
Feel happy knowing that you've got a really powerful
P. S. You can also make this with tangerine or clementine peels. I made mine with a mixture of orange and clementine peels. Cheap to make!!!
Here is the link
http://www.pennilessparenting.com/2010/11/homemade-orange-cleaner.html
I'm guessing white vinegar!!!
Garlic
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
Any help would be appreciated. The two people I've tried to tell this about don't really believe me. They think I'm just stressed out. Who would make this up?
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
Rubbing Alcohol
Has anyone tried using diluted acohol on their lessions to kill Scabies/Mites/bed bugs? And how do you tell which one you could have? My oldest son (10) has thousands of bumps that I had been treating as an allergic reaction for a little more than 4 weeks now. And no one else was affected, until now. My younger son (5) has bumps in his underwear. Extremely worried because I now have a newborn, do not want her to get infected, and need to cure my sons.
EC: We're guessing you are referring to rubbing alcohol? Please correct us if we're wrong!
Borax, Hydrogen Peroxide, Citrus Soap
Washing Soda
1) Purchase over the counter Lice treatment (1% Permethrin), Nix or store brand, RID can burn.
2) Before bath cover head and neck with Sublimed Sulfur and Petroleum Jelly or Vic's Vapor Rub mix - avoid eyes and mucous membranes.
3) Mix Neem oil-cold pressed(10 drops), Eucalyptus essential oil(10 drops), 1 tablespoon of salt and Olive oil(1/4cup) then pour into hot tub and soak for a minimum of 30 minutes
4) While in tub gently rub an ex foliating brush from your toes to your neck to get the oil mix to cover your entire body. - If they are on your neck and head rub there as well.
5) Wash completely off with Peppermint Castle soap.
6) Dry off some but stay damp, rub in Nix from head to toe, leave on for 8-10 hours. During this time use a blow dryer on areas that itch. If you feel a burning sensation Wash off immediately.
7) Re-apply Nix a second time for another 8-10 hours and repeat steps 2-6.
8) Worn clothing should be placed in a plastic bag for washing in Hot water and adding 1 tablespoon of Borax w/ soap powder to each load
9) Iron clothing before wearing, wipe down everything you've touched with a damp hot rag and detergent, vacuum often/w heppa filter. Steam clean furniture and bedding.
10) If you see a spot on your skin start to itch and see a red dot you can also use Clove Bud Essential oil and a Que tip applied directly to the spot and hold for a minute. It kills the buggers dead. Be very careful with this oil, it will burn your skin.
Washing Soda
Ingredients
Baking Soda
Instructions
1. Fill a wide baking dish with baking soda... [EC: due to copyright considerations, for further instructions please visit the website listed below]
here is the link!!!
http://www.pennilessparenting.com/2011/01/homemade-washing-soda.html
Washing Soda
Washing Soda
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
Borax and Hydrogen Peroxide Soak
Toasted Flour
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I have tried so many of the ideas on this site, and nothing helped. I finally took common flour and baked it in the oven until it turned brown, and applied it to my skin. It is healing my skin and the deep bruising of the bites are being healed. The first day, I applied olive oil and a coconut oil mix and then dusted myself with the "brown flour", and it worked.
Yes I smell kinda of like toast --but it is worth it, and it is working for me! Thank you. I think this is an olden day cure for skin problems that work. Bonnie
