Apple Cider Vinegar
(New Mexico, US)
12/21/2014
★★★★★
Detox Drink Recipe Ingredients:
- 1 glass of water (12-16 oz.)
- 2 Tbsp. apple cider vinegar
- 2 Tbsp. lemon juice
- 1 tsp. Cinnamon
- 1 dash Cayenne Pepper
- (optional) stevia to taste
This is what I read as far as when to take: If you want to cleanse, lose body fat, boost energy and reverse disease then adding natural detox drinks to your diet can help you improve your quality of life fast. I recommend consuming this drink 3x daily 20 minutes before meals for 2 weeks then consuming it 1x daily before breakfast or lunch.
(Usa)
10/22/2018
(Taos, Nm)
01/11/2016
Some people with SIBO cannot tolerate vinegar of any kind or any fermented foods.....
(Deland, Florida)
07/31/2016
I would agree with you, Deborah. Recently it's been suspected that I have a problem with SIBO. Began increasing fermented foods; sauerkraut used to be a favorite but I hadn't had it in years. So I made some after reading that fermented foods help with digestive problems; but it just about did me in. So I'll be staying away from fermented foods until I get this SIBO sorted out. I'll be trying the peppermint caps, the oregano and fresh garlic, as well as the saccharomyces boulardi. I'm hoping it does the trick.
(Oregon)
10/03/2016
Apple Cider Vinegar and Cayenne
★★★★★
I found earthclinic and started my ACV and cayenne regiment (I did not have Glutamine at the time). After my first drink I could tell a difference. After 4 days, I was able to eat and sleep better. That weekend I purchased Glutamine and have been doing the ACV and cayenne drink with the glutamine capsule 3 times a day for a week. I feel normal most of the time, eat regular and sleep much better. I intend to stay on the regiment until I have fully recovered and cut back to once a day to stay that way. I have another doctors appointment in a week. From my research I believe I have a bacterial infection or Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth (SIBO). I intend on asking for the breath test to know for sure.
(Portland, Oregon)
03/17/2014
★★★★★
I get it. I had stomach pain, loose bowels, my skin itched at night a had a rash on my stomach. I went to a Gastrologist. they did a endoscopy, and a colonoscopy. and told me I had acid reflux. but other than the pain the symptoms stayed the same. My family Doctor told me I might have a internal infection. I went back to the Gastrologist and he said no you have acid reflux. He flat out was not interested in testing me for anything. He just wanted to do another Endoscopy and colonoscopy...if you ask me that's where the money is. This went on for about 8 years and finally I saw a naturopath. I told her my symptoms and she said lets do a test and as she said I had SIBO. I feel better and I haven't been on Acid reflux pills in 3 months. Acid reflux pills kills off the good acids I found out. MY wife also was told she had Acid reflux, she had a Bug that went away in a couple off months. I think that's just the answer they give. Not sure but some of them are more educated than others. So yeah, keep trying. I am pain free no more cramps. ETC.
Thanks For sharing Rick
(Philly)
03/18/2014
Hi. I also tested positive for SIBO, with c.diff toxin B being the culprit. I have not been able to rid myself, and its been years. Skin issues, colitis, etc. What helped you? Thanks!
(Htx)
04/16/2014
Saccharomyces boulardi is helpful for c diff infections.
(New South Wales)
01/13/2017
Fecal transplants have been said to be really good for C dif.
Avoid Artificial Sugars
★★★★★
I was eating the packaged Splenda every day which includes sucralose and maltodextrim. I believe the sucralose gave me SIBO (I had little burps constantly immediately after eating and steatorrhea and my vitamin D was low even though I supplement with cod liver oil every day) and the maltodextrim was probably masking the signs that I had absorption problems by providing a constant source of sugar to my brain (I noticed the flushed feeling with the packaged Stevia as well which also contains maltodextrim as a filler).
While on the Splenda, I gradually developed severe brain fog. The whole process was very insidious because I didn't notice any effects immediately after eating Splenda so I believe my side effects were a result of SIBO since sucralose has been shown to kill off 50% of the good bacteria in your intestine (which would make sense if bad bacteria are using the undigested sucralose as a food source and then killing the good bacteria).
I drank lots of water, acidophilus and some apple cider vinegar to try to restore my gut flora. One good thing to come of this, is that I discovered I have mild Asperger's syndrome which the Splenda probably exacerbated. I was definitely a different version of myself on Splenda.
(Tyler, Tx)
06/13/2013
B12, Royal Jelly
★★★★★
(Los Angeles, Ca)
07/23/2013
(Oklahoma, US)
07/19/2014
Copasetic, even thought its a year after your question, the only Bacillus Subtillis I know of is Primal Defense Ultra by Garden of Life. It should be available at any health food store near you
(Sunnyvale, Ca)
07/20/2014
I wonder if that strain is ok for a 1 year old to take? My baby was born with a bowel obstruction and as a consequence lost half of his small intestine and illeocecal valve. He's prone to SIBO so I'm always looking for ways to keep him healthy. So far I've had great success using fermented coconut water, aka coconut kefir, made using a starter culture from Body Ecology. He hasn't needed to be on any antibiotics in the last year for SIBO, which is rare according to his doc for children with his condition.
(Canada)
09/16/2014
(Iowa, US)
10/18/2014
(gc, ci)
04/11/2021
(Ct)
11/10/2015
Be careful with ginger, if u have bleeding hemmorhoids, it will thin your blood, like aspirin.
(Deland, Florida)
07/31/2016
(Kentucky)
08/01/2016
Maryjean , if you have food poisoning take activated charcoal capsules, they really help a lot.
(Deland, Florida)
08/03/2016
Thank you, Renate! I will definitely try the charcoal. I've been suffering since the poisoning happened on June 3. 2 months ago now. I do believe the charcoal will help; something needs to be removed from my system, that is for sure!
Berberine and Garlic Supplements
★★★★★
I burp hydrogen gas when I have sibo and have alot of gas then diareha.
Black Cumin Oil
★★★★★
Please see a dietician and request a low fodmap diet.
Chlorine Dioxide
★★★★★
The Chlorine Dioxide I'm using is the Aquamira Water Purification drops sold to purify drinking water. This comes under “Other uses” lol.
How to use Liquid Drops:
- Place 7 drops Aquamira Water Treatment (Part A) and 7 drops Phosphoric Acid Activator (Part B) in a cap to pre-mix.
- Let mixture react for 5 minutes to ensure full activation (it will turn yellow color).
- Fill a container with 1 quart (1 liter) water. Add contents of mixing cap.
Water is now ready for use. Enjoy! I've been told NOT to take vitamin C supplements while taking Chlorine Dioxide!
Dosage:
Drink 3 oz taken every hour, until the content of the bottle is finished (8 to 12 shots). It has no taste. Just like water. Make a new batch fresh in the morning and repeat.
Note: I believe this treatment will destroy any unwanted pathogen in the digestive tract causing harm like Crohn's Disease, Chronic Diarrhea (bacterial in nature), Peptic Ulcers, Ulcerative Colitis.
(Kentucky)
10/20/2021
No special diet just drink it every hour. I was not expecting to cure my SIBO by drinking it so as to how long you should drink it, I don't know. Experiment with it and see. It won't hurt you at low dosages.
(ohio)
08/01/2023
(Kentucky)
08/01/2023
★★★★★
Back in my original post, after 2-3 days I noticed my SIBO was gone. That was over 2 years ago and it has not come back.
(Dallas, Texas)
06/24/2024
(Hawaii)
06/28/2024
Hello Bethany,
I'm not sure how Rob took his CD dose though, according to experienced CD/MMS practitioners and "experts", you need to avoid food when taking CD or MMS (which turns into CD in the body).
In Jim Humbles latest book, "MMS Health Recovery Guidebook", he notes good results when spacing meals a minimum 30 minutes away from a dose. Other practitioners recommend an hour and 2-4 hours if you suspect your meal contained high antioxidant foods (e.g., Moringa) or Vitamin C.
In addition, Humble recommends that meals during the 8 hour dosing period should be light and small, more like snacks. After this period, one can have larger meals. He notes following a mono diet or a partial mono diet during the protocol allows the body to dump wastes more efficiently.
Any food, supplement or beverage containing Vitamin C or is high in antioxidants will cancel/neutralize the effectiveness of CD and MMS. So, a separation of 2 hours, minimum, away from meals is necessary. Other physicians utilizing CD/MMS recommend a full 4 hour separation (e.g., Anje Oswald, MD - The MMS Handbook: Your Health in Your Hands; Andreas Kalcker, PhD - many books; R. May, etc...).
You can test if something you consume cancels CD/MMS by using test strips to determine compatibility. Humble uses the LaMotte High Range Chlorine Dioxide Test Strips. Dr. Kalcker uses more technical methods.
Other foods and beverages known to cancel CD/MMS: coffee, teas, alcohol, chocolate, caffeinated and decaffeinated drinks, milk, coconut water, orange juice, tangerine juice, any juice containing Vitamin C, pesticides, GMOs, overly processed foods, etc...
Humble notes that many individuals do not have successful results using CD/MMS because they are taking something that "neutralizes" CD/MMS. When they simplify their diet, space CD doses properly and eliminate/alter their supplements or medications the problem is often solved. Many people have better results avoiding all or most supplements during treatment. If one must take supplements, spacing them 3-4 hours away from CD/MMS is important.
An example of how Vitamin C can neutralize CD/MMS: some people experience a "herxheimer reaction" after taking a dose and if the die-off symptoms are severe (e.g., vomiting, diarrhea, pain) you can neutralize the symptoms by taking 2 grams of Vitamin C which acts as an antidote. If symptoms persist, take another gram of Vitamin C the next hour and if necessary a third dose the following hour. There are other methods to eliminate "herx" reactions.
Specifically with regards to SIBO - many GI specialists now use high dose BENFOTIAMINE (BF) supplementation (200 - 500 mg, 3X/day) and are seeing great results in SIBO patients that have not responded to other therapies since they have learned that MANY GI DISEASES are actually unrecognized chronic/severe Thiamine deficiency .... of all things.
BF is a fat soluble form of thiamine that is highly bioavailable (5X higher serum levels compared to regular B1) and crosses the blood brain barrier (BBB). BF can penetrate into the fat layers (by a factor of 360%) surrounding every cell in the body. Some people have "genetics" in which they can not absorb/make B1 properly and they take an even more potent form of B1 called TTFD (Thiamine Tetrahydrofurfuryl Disulfide).
If using regular B1, one needs to take 1600 - 2400 mg/day. Always start with low doses and taper up weekly. Always give Magnesium with B1 since Mg activates thiamine.
CHRONIC THIAMINE DEFICIENCY (TD) IS COMMON IN THE U.S. because MANY "anti-thiamine" lifestyle practices are ubiquitous in the U.S.. Also, TD is one of the main causes for Diabetes II, gastroparesis, IBS, and other diseases - hundreds of studies on the subject.
Two other critical factors to consider when trying to resolve SIBO: eliminate GLYPHOSATE & GLUTEN sources. Research. These "toxins" cause many severe nutritional deficiencies, damage the gut lining and microbiota, and block many critical enzymatic and cellular pathways.
See Dr Peter Osborne regarding gluten and its effects on SIBO. See Dr Seneff regarding Glyphosate science.
Wishing you success in your health treatments,
Sherri
P.S. I have researched this subject for a long time and am finally starting a CD/MMS protocol and look forward to sharing my results.
Good Articles:
"SIBO, IBS and Constipation: Unrecognized Thiamine Deficiency?" By Elliot Overton, DIPCNM, CFMP. July 12,2023. https://hormonesmatter.com.
"Dry Beriberi Due to Thiamine Deficiency Associated with Peripheral Neuropathy and Wernicke's Encephalopathy Mimicking Guillain-Barre syndrome: A Case Repoert and Review of the Literature." Shible AA, Ramadurai D, Gergen D, Reynolds PM. Am J Case Rep. 2019 Mar 13;20:330-334. doi: 10.12659/AJCR.914051. PMID: 30862772
"Hiding in Plain Sight: Modern Thiamine Deficiency." Marrs C, Lonsdale D. Cells. 2021 Sep 29;10(10):2595. doi: 10.3390/cells10102595. PMID: 34685573
Prakash S. Gastrointestinal beriberi: A form of Wernicke's encephalopathy? Case Rep. 2018 doi: 10.1136/bcr-2018-224841.
Donnino M. Gastrointestinal beriberi: A previously unrecognized syndrome. Ann. Intern. Med. 2004;141:898–899. doi: 10.7326/0003-4819-141-11-200412070-00035.
Whitfield K.C., Bourassa M.W., Adamolekun B., Bergeron G., Bettendorff L., Brown K.H., Cox L., Fattal-Valevski A., Fischer P.R., Frank E.L., et al. Thiamine deficiency disorders: Diagnosis, prevalence, and a roadmap for global control programs. Ann. N. Y. Acad. Sci. 2018;1430:3. doi: 10.1111/nyas.13919
Coconut Oil
★★★★★
(Memphis, Tn)
10/12/2012
(Corvallis, Or)
06/20/2013
★★★★★
(Plymouth, US)
05/24/2014
(Waukesha, Wisconsin)
04/07/2015
I have also experienced "symptoms in my head" and can tell you it was really not pleasant. When candida is raging, my head fogs over so that I can't complete a sentence. I forget what it was I wanted to say. The accompanying headache is low grade, but serious enough to further impede clear thinking. I can't remember things and make many mistakes at work. My ears itch to the point that it wakes me in the night. At one point, my eyes fogged over as if I were looking through wax paper. It was all caused by candida.
(India)
07/26/2015
Hey zippy , I have the exact same symptoms as you had . For the first time ever I have found someone with the exact same symptoms as me. Please let me know the treatment you underwent.
If any one here knows Zippy personally kindly ask him/her to reply to my post immediately. Btw, I have begun consuming coconut oil since yesterday, lets see if it helps.
(Marshalltown, Iowa)
07/19/2016
How much coconut oil did you take a day? I too experience the SIBO effects in my head and a desperate for a solution. Thanks
Dietary Changes
★★★★★
I found relief by changing my diet and lifestyle. Apple cider vinegar (a few spoonfulls) in a glass diluted with a little water before a meal helps. Reducing refined carbs and sugars. Having gaps between meals. Not eating too late. Oral health is important too - bad bacteria can be swallowed. Finally, avoiding food and drink which relaxes the valve in the esophagus, namely dark chocolate, green tea, chamomile tea, peppermint. Stomach acid which is not acid enough will allow bacteria to produce gas which in turn drives acid reflux. Increasing the level of the acid in the stomach helps to kill bacteria.
Dietary Changes
★★★★★
Shortly after taking these PPI's, I began to experience bad breath. It has taken me 15 years to realize that the PPI's were the culprit. My breath, as well as my bowels smelled putrid. After consulting with Medical Doctors as well as Holistic Doctors I spoke to my body and apologized for abusing it and stated that I would find a Doctor who would cure me. I googled digestive Doctors, it brought me to a website of a practice that dealt only with digestive disorders. I looked at the practicing Doctors and read their bio's. I picked the oldest Doctor and told my body that he was the Doctor that would help us get well. The Doctor issued a breath test which determined that I had SIBO. I had never heard of SIBO. I started reading and researching this ailment to get a better understanding of it.
First thing that I learned was, STAY AWAY FROM ANY AND ALL SUGAR. That includes carbs. I am currently on the Keto diet.
The Doctor prescribed 2 weeks of Rifaxin. Unfortunately I was actually sick for a month once the treatment ended. My Doctor stated that was the bad bacteria leaving my body. I nursed myself back to health drinking hot water mixed with 1 tsp. turmeric and 1 tsp. coconut oil. When that ceases to relieve the pain I alternate with 1/2 tsp of baking soda with 8 oz. of hot water. I just read a post that stated sea salt with hot water is good as well. I will start that regime tonight. I thought that it was my stomach that was hurting me but my Doctor stated it's actually my small intestine.
I am currently taking a 30 day treatment of Amoxicillin. Unfortunately last week I had a horrible craving for sugar and ate a cracker with some jelly on it and I might as well have thrown a bomb in my small intestine. I feel like I am back at square one.
Dietary Changes
★★★★★
Here are a couple of links:
http://blog.katescarlata.com/2014/01/22/small-intestinal-bacterial-overgrowth/
http://www.todaysdietitian.com/newarchives/040511p46.shtml
I hope this is helpful. Good luck!
Dietary Changes
★★★★★
Then I started taking heavy doses of Vitamin C the itchy skin subsided. My dry itchy red eyes continued. Recently I thought I had a cavity since my tooth was hot and cold sensitive went to the dentist said I had sinisitis! My dentist told me to take Zinc and use saline solution for my sinus infection. Now I believe all of these thing are related that went undiagnosed for a long time. I started using collodial silver in purified water with GSE and saline in a Neti pot for my sinus infection I noticed my red itchy gritty eyes is slowly going away. I somtimes will just spray the colloidal silver into my eyes before bed. I also notice I was having the early onset of yeast infection so I addressed that with ACV and probiotics and Niacinamide (Vitamin B3) which kills yeast. I'm certain that all of these thing are all related! I have taken the very best care of myself. My ND put me on garlic tablets and berberine I take 3 three times a day. I take four rose hips with C twice a day. I also drink black tea with grated ginger in it and strain it before I drink it. I also drink Grapefruit Seed extract in water all day using a straw. Most of my symptoms have subsided. The diet is easy no sugar, flour, no dairy , coffee, no heavy foods no cheese, I usually have rice and vegetables or dal. I eat lots of garlic which I really like. I hope this helps.
(London)
03/19/2015
Dietary Changes
★★★★★
(Seattle, Wa)
06/05/2013
(Seattle)
02/27/2014
(Oklahoma, US)
07/19/2014
(Boston)
10/19/2014
Naturopath or doctor who specializes in SIBO recovery please near Arlington, Ma.
(Philadelphia Pa.)
02/27/2015
(Gainesville, Fl)
08/01/2015
Hi. My husband and I presented at the 2nd annual SIBO Symposium in Portland, OR in June. We do manual physical therapy that helps detach adhesions from previous surgery, trauma, infection or inflammatory conditions (endometriosis, Crohn's etc). We were invited to speak because Drs. Siebecker and SSL believe that with SIBO patients they treat, and the SIBO returns is usually because they have a history of adhesions.
Dr. Allison Siebecker is in Portland, along with Drs. Steven Sandberg-Lewis and Melanie Keller. They are all wonderful naturopaths, great people, and among the experts in the country in treating SIBO. I am working with Dr. SSL myself now as I have Hydrogen-dominant SIBO, but my methane was positive as well. I have a history of taking way too many antibiotics since I was a teen-ager for frequent sinus infections. I also had radiation therapy to the pelvis for cervical cancer, and subsequently had 2 total bowel resections, with 36" of my ileum and ileocecal valve removed.
I just started the Rifaximin, and am going to gradually add in the Allicin and Neem Plus, and at the end of the Rifaximin, I'll be taking the Erythromycin as a prokinetic. Fingers crossed!
Garlic, Berberine, Oregano Oil
(Helsingfors, Island)
02/24/2013
You mentioned that you took probiotics during your antibiotic treatment. I read somewhere that people with SIBO should be extra careful when starting to take probiotics. The bad bacteria needs to be starved off and eradicated first and only then should a careful process of building better gut bacteria started by a step by step introduction of probiotics. You might benefit from a retry. Also, the same source adviced that the natural antibiotics should be alternated so that the body does not grown resistant to them.
(Pdx, Or)
03/25/2013
Thanks I will try it. In my second go around with SIBO my doctor strategized this program take Interphase 25 minutes before taking the garlic, berberine, and oregano. Interphase kills the biofilm. The second thing to do is very important is to take enteric coated peppermint oil 1-2 capsules three times a day that enteric coated capsules dissolve and open once they've reached the small intestines, and kill the bacteria. I'm learning that to eliminate SIBO it might take six months and that you must be on the SCD diet during that time.
(Stinkville, Michigan)
03/26/2013
(Sd, Ca)
05/14/2013
★★★★★
Recent research is indicating that IBS may very well be caused by bacterial overgrowth. So be sure to ask for breath test to verify SIBO, Small intestinal bacterial overgrowth.
This is a natural herbal process for killing SIBO. My MD gave me take Interfase or you may use Interfase plus ( this is an enzyme that dissolves the biofilm around the bacteria which allows the powerful herbs to penetrate the bacteria to kill them) Take four Interfase or Interfase Plus 20-25 minutes before the herbs. The herbal process is a 30 days or longer process. Herbs take longer than antibiotics. While on herbs you must get on the SCD diet, this starves the bacteria. Also drinking 2-3 drops of food grade peppermint oil in half glass of water 3-4 times a day helps a lot! I take a two peppermint pills before bed and eat two to three raw garlic cloves daily.
Herbs for SIBO: Take alicin Garlic 450 mg 3 times daily, take 3 berberine complex 3 time daily, take 1 golden seal 2 x times day, take 1 capsule oregano oil 3 times a day and take Neem 300 milligrams 3 times a day.
If you can't take it anymore the symptomsare driving you mad and making you crazy. Go on the Elemental Diet for 2-3 weeks , you can buy it over the counter. This means you will have no food just drink the packets. I believe 14 days would be enough depending on how bad you have it. This method I read is supposedly to be the fastest and most effective way to get rid of SIBO because you are literally starving the bacteria. Of course anytime you do this it is best to get under the care ND or MD that is specialized in this area. Once the SIBO is gone, you will need some insight on how to get the system balanced, sweeping and working appropriately. Be well!
(New York, US)
03/04/2015
I have been having SIBO problems for the last two years. I have been hospitalized a few times, and have gone to the Mayo Clinic. My issue is stomach dumping (my stomach does not open fully and food is dumped directly into my small intestine). My small intestine is working at 28% the normal speed and I get the bacteria overgrowth. Causes me great pain, bloating, diarrhea, and vomiting.
Finally I am going for a Breath test next Tuesday. I have been reading and listening to "experts" declaring the benefit of Berberine, Allicin, Neem, and Peppermint. The question is which brands to trust? With the recent report out of NY that numerous manufacturers do not even have the active ingredient contained in the supplement is making me nervous.
I need to figure out a solution. I am already gluten free, avoid high fructose corn syrup and try to stick to the FODMAP diet. Yet my attacks are often and brutal.
Anyone have any suggestions on the effective use of Berberine, Neem, Allicin and Peppermint? Also, what brands have you used that you think are effective. I totally lost faith in brands like Natures Bounty, GNC, Walmart, Target, etc. 90% of me believes supplements and herbs are a giant scam but I have reached rock bottom. I am willing to try anything at this point.
Thanks, Bernard
(Tennessee)
03/04/2015
Dear Bernard,
Well, sorry to hear you have been dealing with this for so long!
You asked for suggestions on supplement brands of herbs. I have been using herbs from Mountain Rose Herbs for years. I find them to be of excellent quality and have seen them to be effective. For ready made herbal tinctures, I like Herbpharm. I have used Now essential oils for years and many of their other things and have found them helpful. They may not be the absolute best quality, but they have worked and so I continue to use them.
When you refer to allicin, do you mean using garlic? We have found it to be an excellent anti-biotic in a variety of ways.
Others here have a lot more knowledge on the digestive system, so I will leave more counsel to them. I hope you feel much better soon!
~Mama to Many~
Grapefruit Seed Extract, Aloe, Supplements
★★★★★
Western medicine does not have an answer for small intestinal bacterial overgrowth (SIBO) and it is known as only treatable, not curable. I spent 7 years and thousands of dollars doing diagnostics and going through round after round of antibiotics. I'll spare you the details of everything I've tried because the list is huge. I was very sick, extremely underweight, broke and stuck at home with this condition.
Of all the things out there to take, this is what works both for temporary relief and what to take as the ailment is healing.
Grapefruit seed extract - 20-30 drops at least per day in water
Intestinal Formula # 2 from Dr. Schulz - I am not affiliated with this company - this was the first product strong enough for me to stop my antibiotics - at least 50 charcoal pills per day. When you feel an attack coming on start with 10 pills, increase if necessary. I was up to 100/day at one point
Ultimate Aloe Vera juice - NOT just any aloe vera juice. Most have a laxative effect which you do NOT want. I order mine from shop.com/raol as it supports a non-profit. It must be this brand as they take the laxative effect out and it's only the inner leaf of the aloe plant
Isotonic Magnesium and Isotonic Calcium - I also order from shop.com/raol - these two items are crucial for complete healing of the intestines - if you're in bad shape you need the isotonic version as it's instantly absorbed. I tried all sorts of other vitamins including magnesium and calcium.
Warm lemon water every day
As long as I stay on a little bit of the aloe juice now that I'm healed and stay away from sugar, my digestion is perfect. Thank you.
(Abbotsford bc)
05/28/2022
Cashews may help. There's an acid compound that kills the h pylori bacteria that may contribute to issues. Try eating them in excess throughout the day for a while. Like 2 weeks. Go with the flow kinda thing! See what happens experiment.
Happy to hear your testimonial and shared tips!
