Magnesium for Kidney Stones

Use to get them so bad I be lying on floor immobilized for few hours waiting for Stone to shift into better place! Of course I NEVER go to doctors nor take ANY synthic drug/ medicines so always willing to SUFFER until I found Nature Cure!!

Which is Magnesium!! Ever since that first day increasing Magnisium levels now decades later never not one stone!!

We get stones cause our Calcium levels are not balanced with Magnisium. Best part it is a natural tranquilizer began sleeping better!! I get a Powder form of magnesium. Do it!!!!! It dissolves them! So does cayenne.

I tried everything. 500 g tablets of magnesium twice a day plus lots of water was the most effective method. After a couple days, the pain diminished dramatically. After about a week, I didn't have anymore pain. It made my urine look cloudy, otherwise, no other side effects. What a relief!!

Tried drinking a few beers while in the tub, was so-so. This helped somewhat, however aside from dropping the pain several levels, still painful. So, tried to do as much research on what causes stones and not just cures. There is a lot of real, peer reviewed information on Stone formation out there if you look. There are also a host of weird suggestions on the net, and here, and you have to use your head. I don't know why the Olive Oil is suggested for mixing with the Lemon, because your Kidneys do nothing, nada, zip, with respect to oils. Its suggestions like this, and the seeming lack of biological understanding of the seperate bodily systems like the Kidneys, Liver, Etc, that make me sceptical. In trying to find a cite, I just ran across this, from a real doctor's comment on lemon juice, and Vinegar's affect on Urine pH I, and

Frankly its surprising. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsqrXkRVk3U

Neither of them will acidize your Urine and help dissolve a stone. Thought they will become alkaline, which is counter-intuitive. Keep in mind what the Dr. Says about the citrate though. So, back to my story on how I've been pain free (almost) for the past 8-9 months.

I don't have the cite, however a respected Texas Univ. Dr. Has done a study on Magnesium and kidney stones. At its core, the more Mag you have in your blood, the easier it is for Calcium to remain in solution and not to precipitate out and form stones. Also, Mag will combine with Oxolate to help it remain soluable and not precipitate out.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISW/is_267/ai_n15966275/

I am in the marine aquarium (saltwater) hobby, and this Chemistry is well known. Magnesium is the most abundant mineral in saltwater, then Calcium, and Alkalines/Carbonites.

With saltwater, the higher the level of Magnesium the more you can add/buffer Calcium or Alkalinity and raise their level. But, if you keep adding it, at some point you will have a magical snowstormn in your aquarium as the added Calcium or Alkalinity becomes too large, in proportion to the Mag, and starts a chain reaction of precipitating Calcium and Alkalinity. Go to your local fish store with saltwater fish and talk to the owner. So, in my story I found this Texas Dr's cite, and started taking Mag, as I was having what seemed like weekly recurring stones. Again short story. Just like Vitamin C, Mag has a very, very cheap form available that is barely absorbed by the body. Magnesium Oxide is in the cheap bottle at the drug store, and has very little absorption. Don't try to be clever and just take more, because while it is minimally absorbed by the body, it is hygroscopic or water-attracting in the intestines! Taking too much ie >400-500mg will just sit in your intestines, abosorbing water with impressive results. If you look at the small bottles of laxative they sell in the store, you'll notice its Magnesium, though 18,000 mgs. So, after researching the different kinds of Magnesium, I am stuck on Magnesium Citrate. One, because it is well absorbed, and Two, because it also has Citrate in the formulation, which is a win-win. I also am starting to cap my own capsules as I take 4x100mg caps a day, with food. I can pay $10 for (100) 100mg caps, or pay ~$5 for 8oz of bulk Mag-Cit and cap about 150-200 for maybe $8 total. In a similar vein, Citrate does many of the things Magnesium does, and you may want to look at something like Potassium Citrate, as the Citrate will also help. If you want to drink a juice to get some Citrate help, then Lemon's really wrong, try Oranges. http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/50980.php

The long and short of Kidney Stones for those with a history of them, is to do a little research, and understand that a lot of the things going on inside of you are chemistry related. I've got a good Dr's office I go to in Napa, and even there they don't really care to investigate why I am having stones, they simply want to pull out the rX pad and prescribe flowmax or something. And I do not come off as a tree-hugging Gaia loving Alternative Health scene kind of patient either. I have obscenely acidic urine, which I think is part of my problem with stones. Decent diagnostic quality test strips are available on Amazon for $7, might be worth checking. I'm getting a referral to a nephralogist shortly, we'll see if he/she's any more interested in finding the cause and not just RX'ing. Aside all the odd-ball 'cures' that are posted here and elsewhere on the net, it would be good to keep in mind the fact that many of these are goofs for the gullible, many are based upon some person's incorrect assumptions (Drinking lemons acidify the urine and melt a stone a bit) which even I thought had some merit, or may be based upon some actual science, peer reviewed ( some of my links). Hopefully, someone finds some of this bit of a rambling on useful.

Interesting post. I believe Ted has always said that lemons make the body more alkaline... Someone out there please correct me if I am wrong? Just because something is acid based does not mean it makes the blood or urine acidic - quite the opposite can occur. I am glad you are looking in to WHY you are getting the stones instead of letting the Dr's just push RX's at you. Best to you, Carly

While Mag. Cit. will not help with an stone incident, for many I think it would be an excellent preventative. I am debating stopping the Mag. in Jan. For awhile to see if I have a recurrence, and thus add another data point. Not sure the potential pain is worth it, though on the other hand if I am not making stones then I might not need to be taking Mag. every single day for the rest of my life...... I will post again end of Jan '11 more than likely.

Read to the bottom of the page and investigate the possiblity of bromate/bromide/bromite, fluoride and chlorine overload. They replace iodine when iodine is deficient (and it's estimated 95% of us are deficient). Replacing iodine back in the receptors will alkeline your system and fight off desease (cancer, heavy metals, parasites, etc. ). It's a detoxing regiment so go easy on the dosing due to possible herxhiemer effects. It's old medicine dating back to 1811.

The FDA hasn't moved on the bromite poisoning of the America food supply. Bromide and it's cousins are banned in England, Canada and a proposed law in Australia is yet to pass. http://theiodineproject.webs.com/bromidesinbread.htm

Hope this helps someone! The list of the toxic and painful side effects of bromide/bromate/bromite and fluoride - chlorine are staggering. A six week detox dose is less than $25. A maintanence dose is less than $2 a month. I also recommend that people on well water have there well/wells tested regularly. Culligan International makes a filter for chlorine and Ted has advice on treatment of water to remove it. I haven't gotten around to research removing fluoride yet.